1 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,800 One of my earliest childhood memories 2 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,800 is of my mother taking a nap. 3 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,100 I was in a crib. 4 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:54,533 This is how early I remember. 5 00:00:54,533 --> 00:00:56,400 My mother would do this very often. 6 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,733 In my mind, it seems like it was daily. 7 00:00:58,733 --> 00:01:00,533 And perhaps it was. 8 00:01:00,533 --> 00:01:02,700 She would have the door open a crack, 9 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:05,900 and sometimes I could see her, and sometimes she could see me. 10 00:01:06,450 --> 00:01:10,550 But I wasn't really sure what happened when she put me down for my nap, 11 00:01:10,983 --> 00:01:13,950 until I started climbing out of the crib 12 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:16,950 and discovered is that she was napping. 13 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:19,166 I wondered why on earth she'd want to do that, 14 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:22,166 because it was the most exciting part of the day. 15 00:01:22,583 --> 00:01:25,700 Some of you might have guessed this matches some of my personality, 16 00:01:26,516 --> 00:01:30,350 but I did learn later in life the power of naps. 17 00:01:30,833 --> 00:01:32,300 As of rest. 18 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:35,433 And my mother would always say, I just need to sit down. 19 00:01:35,966 --> 00:01:38,250 I just need to rest my eyes. 20 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:42,050 I need to just have a moment to myself 21 00:01:43,766 --> 00:01:45,566 to rest, 22 00:01:45,566 --> 00:01:49,166 because rest made it possible for her to keep going. 23 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:55,316 Now, I hadn't thought about my mom's naps in a long time 24 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:59,266 until I read Tricia Hirsch's book, 25 00:01:59,283 --> 00:02:03,183 Rest Is Resistance a manifesto. 26 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:06,350 I love that title for her. 27 00:02:06,350 --> 00:02:07,983 See, rest is More Than Sleep. 28 00:02:07,983 --> 00:02:13,500 It's a liberatory spiritual practice that seeks to combat what she calls 29 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:16,833 grind culture, which is a deadly combination 30 00:02:16,833 --> 00:02:19,850 of capitalism and white supremacy culture. 31 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:25,200 She tells us that Read the Rest movement is not some cute, 32 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:28,233 frivolous idea, 33 00:02:28,233 --> 00:02:31,500 but instead an intentional disruption 34 00:02:31,616 --> 00:02:36,600 against a very violent systems that want to grind us down. 35 00:02:37,350 --> 00:02:40,350 Rest is not about avoidance or laziness. 36 00:02:40,683 --> 00:02:44,900 It's about keeping our human city whole. 37 00:02:46,983 --> 00:02:49,983 But do we even know what rest is? 38 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:53,450 Does it simply mean to sleep more? 39 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,450 Is it sitting in our cars and taking a few deep breaths 40 00:02:56,450 --> 00:03:00,750 before we pick up the groceries, the kids, or run more errands? 41 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:03,783 Is race taking a walk? 42 00:03:03,783 --> 00:03:05,483 Going to the spa? 43 00:03:05,483 --> 00:03:07,650 Getting a massage? 44 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:09,566 It's avoiding social media. 45 00:03:10,683 --> 00:03:13,883 Is rest about napping or something greater? 46 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:19,766 Or is rest just another way of talking about an individualistic form of self-care 47 00:03:19,983 --> 00:03:23,433 that involves spending money that you may or may not have? 48 00:03:25,050 --> 00:03:27,633 However, you may define rest. 49 00:03:27,633 --> 00:03:30,800 Many of us have told ourselves, I will rest 50 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,200 when. 51 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,250 This day is over. 52 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:36,983 If it's been a difficult day. 53 00:03:36,983 --> 00:03:38,400 When the week is over. 54 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,600 If it's been a challenging week when the loved one is out of the hospital, 55 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,600 all or the paperwork is complete. 56 00:03:45,950 --> 00:03:48,950 When my taxes are done, that's when I'll rest. 57 00:03:49,433 --> 00:03:53,133 When I finish this project, when my kids soccer season, balance 58 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:57,083 season, basketball season, school play is finished. 59 00:03:57,566 --> 00:04:00,833 When my loved one gets better, 60 00:04:02,133 --> 00:04:05,133 then I'll rest. 61 00:04:05,250 --> 00:04:08,250 This definition of rest can only come 62 00:04:09,116 --> 00:04:12,200 for some of us when all the busyness is over. 63 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:14,333 But is it really ever over? 64 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:15,483 Or do we find ourselves 65 00:04:15,483 --> 00:04:18,750 tumbling into the next thing and the next thing in the next thing? 66 00:04:18,950 --> 00:04:22,733 And we never really get to ever rest. 67 00:04:24,183 --> 00:04:27,500 And there are those of us, myself included, 68 00:04:28,166 --> 00:04:32,600 who find rest only when sometimes we can go no further. 69 00:04:33,033 --> 00:04:38,433 When I'm not practicing what I aspire to teach all of us, 70 00:04:39,183 --> 00:04:41,883 when I put aside my spiritual practices, 71 00:04:41,883 --> 00:04:45,950 when I'm not taking care of myself, when I go, go, go, push, push, push. 72 00:04:46,233 --> 00:04:47,583 When our bodies break down. 73 00:04:47,583 --> 00:04:49,250 When we are forced to rest. 74 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:53,566 And we take to our beds with the flu, a cold, a sinking depression, 75 00:04:54,350 --> 00:04:57,350 a flare up of a chronic illness 76 00:04:57,533 --> 00:05:00,650 or something bigger that takes all the air out of the room. 77 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:03,650 And our lives. 78 00:05:04,983 --> 00:05:07,166 Yesterday, 79 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:09,800 a group of women gathered for a day of rest here at All 80 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,233 Souls, rooted in the work of Krishna. Here. 81 00:05:12,233 --> 00:05:13,733 See, here's his book. 82 00:05:13,733 --> 00:05:17,366 Is No Ordinary Cold, a slow down. 83 00:05:18,566 --> 00:05:19,833 It is a manifesto. 84 00:05:19,833 --> 00:05:23,283 Because as a black woman, she learned the wisdom of rest from her 85 00:05:23,283 --> 00:05:28,083 mother, her grandmother, her ancestors and those who were enslaved. 86 00:05:28,583 --> 00:05:33,116 She first came to the idea of rest as she was being ground down when she was 87 00:05:33,683 --> 00:05:37,200 seeking a master's degree, and at the same time, part of her 88 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,683 scholarship was around enslaved people's narratives. 89 00:05:41,283 --> 00:05:45,266 And even in those tales, she found places of art and beauty 90 00:05:45,633 --> 00:05:50,333 and rest that people carved out for their self preservation. 91 00:05:51,450 --> 00:05:54,300 She realized in that moment, grind culture, white supremacy 92 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:58,050 and capitalism does not care about your humanity. 93 00:05:58,916 --> 00:06:02,066 It will use you up to grind you down, 94 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:07,100 whether you're working for justice or just trying to live your life. 95 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,916 Brian, culture has taught us to equate being the best 96 00:06:10,916 --> 00:06:14,400 kind of human being by how productive you are. 97 00:06:14,883 --> 00:06:16,650 Did you bring her to do list? 98 00:06:16,650 --> 00:06:19,316 Shall we compare how far we got down them? 99 00:06:19,316 --> 00:06:20,433 How are we doing at work? 100 00:06:20,433 --> 00:06:22,100 What metrics are we meeting? 101 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,983 It's as if we are machines. 102 00:06:25,983 --> 00:06:28,383 She argues, 103 00:06:28,383 --> 00:06:30,450 and that way? 104 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:32,933 That way of thinking 105 00:06:32,933 --> 00:06:35,933 only grinds us down further. 106 00:06:37,833 --> 00:06:42,083 Now, is rest the same for all of us now? 107 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:45,950 Some of us need more rest. 108 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:48,450 In this time, it's not a moment of minimization. 109 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:51,300 That rest is the same for everyone. 110 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:55,283 For those with marginalized identities, rest is needed more than ever 111 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:59,966 because the grind is harder and heavier and more constant 112 00:07:01,050 --> 00:07:04,050 rest for our trans and non-binary 113 00:07:04,616 --> 00:07:07,350 friends and loved ones. 114 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:10,350 For our black indigenous 115 00:07:10,683 --> 00:07:13,016 Pacific Islander friends. 116 00:07:13,016 --> 00:07:18,183 Those who have a disability, those who are struggling to make ends meet, 117 00:07:18,933 --> 00:07:22,250 who don't know about the light bill, let alone dinner tonight. 118 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,650 They need rest. 119 00:07:24,650 --> 00:07:26,750 Most of all. 120 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:32,250 And here, she says, it can be possible for even those in the worst situations. 121 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:36,083 When she found herself in a similar place, she began taking naps 122 00:07:36,233 --> 00:07:37,550 wherever she could. 123 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:40,983 In fact, she developed a program called the Nap Ministry. 124 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:43,800 Sounds amazing. She's in fact the Nap bishop. 125 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,400 I know we don't usually use that language 126 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,616 in this service, but she is the Nap bishop and I would say 127 00:07:49,616 --> 00:07:53,000 that's a really good title to have where she encourages people 128 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,116 not only through her writing, but through, she calls it 129 00:07:57,116 --> 00:08:03,416 a ministry on Instagram, showing people sleeping in different spaces and actually 130 00:08:03,416 --> 00:08:07,283 focuses a lot on black and brown people napping in beautiful spaces. 131 00:08:07,283 --> 00:08:10,383 Because so much of our media shows broken 132 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:14,550 black and brown bodies not at rest, but the victims of violence. 133 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:20,400 And she wants to show beauty and rest and resilience in those images. 134 00:08:21,383 --> 00:08:23,183 Rest is a form of 135 00:08:23,183 --> 00:08:27,033 resistance, she argues, that helps us keep going. 136 00:08:27,333 --> 00:08:31,200 That is a part a spiritual practice and a liberatory tool 137 00:08:31,316 --> 00:08:34,316 for our social justice 138 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:35,133 actions. 139 00:08:35,133 --> 00:08:37,650 I don't even want to call it work in this moment. 140 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:42,383 We must have action, yes, but we must have rest to keep our wholeness. 141 00:08:43,383 --> 00:08:45,650 And for some of us, it may be more action. 142 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:51,233 So our siblings that need more rest may take it to keep their wholeness, 143 00:08:51,233 --> 00:08:54,233 to keep their humanity, to keep them 144 00:08:54,750 --> 00:08:57,750 thriving. 145 00:08:58,383 --> 00:08:58,650 Here's 146 00:08:58,650 --> 00:09:02,133 this work was a big part of our women's retreat, 147 00:09:02,450 --> 00:09:03,383 and we heard a reading 148 00:09:03,383 --> 00:09:06,466 from our wonderful Catherine this morning, sharing from the book, 149 00:09:08,183 --> 00:09:11,183 Holding Ourselves, making that space. 150 00:09:12,466 --> 00:09:14,666 It is such a joy 151 00:09:14,666 --> 00:09:19,100 to think about rest, because how often do we really do it 152 00:09:20,066 --> 00:09:23,183 now? Here, she says, there are four major tenants, 153 00:09:23,183 --> 00:09:27,200 and I'm not going to be able to go into it in this small message this morning. 154 00:09:27,416 --> 00:09:31,350 I do encourage you to find the book at your local library or buy a copy. 155 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:35,516 She talks about how rest is a form of resistance to growing culture. 156 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:38,550 She talks about our bodies as a site of liberation, 157 00:09:38,716 --> 00:09:43,583 that liberation is not just out there, but in our bodies that rest. 158 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:48,933 The heart provides a portal to imagine, to invent and to heal, she writes. 159 00:09:49,650 --> 00:09:52,100 She reminds us, if you haven't noticed, that 160 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:55,283 our dream space has been stolen and we want it back. 161 00:09:56,516 --> 00:10:00,783 One of the wonderful parts of our retreat was our keynote speaker, Denny Roseboro, 162 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:04,583 a two, who asked the women gathered and I'm going 163 00:10:04,583 --> 00:10:07,883 to share her question with you, which is, when's the last time 164 00:10:07,883 --> 00:10:11,883 you allow yourself to dream without boundaries or limitations? 165 00:10:13,650 --> 00:10:16,433 Some of the answers were startling. 166 00:10:16,433 --> 00:10:20,133 There was a few of us that had been a few days, a few weeks. 167 00:10:21,533 --> 00:10:22,783 Am I talking about dreaming? 168 00:10:22,783 --> 00:10:24,233 It's not just sleep dreaming. 169 00:10:24,233 --> 00:10:26,883 It's that daydreaming. 170 00:10:26,883 --> 00:10:27,533 Daydreaming. 171 00:10:27,533 --> 00:10:30,533 Maybe with a cup of hot tea in our hands, or 172 00:10:30,866 --> 00:10:34,316 you get to service early and imagining the flame. 173 00:10:34,316 --> 00:10:38,483 Once the chalice is lit, or watching the beautiful tree behind us. 174 00:10:38,483 --> 00:10:42,383 I see some of you out in the memorial garden on some Sunday mornings. 175 00:10:43,133 --> 00:10:46,133 Is that a place for daydreaming for you? 176 00:10:46,166 --> 00:10:48,650 But some of the women in our group also talked about 177 00:10:48,650 --> 00:10:52,050 that had been months, years, and even decades. 178 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:55,583 Oh my people, we need rest. 179 00:10:55,583 --> 00:10:57,716 We need dreaming. 180 00:10:57,716 --> 00:11:00,183 So many of our social justice leaders in the past 181 00:11:00,183 --> 00:11:03,183 have reminded us the importance of the dream. 182 00:11:03,483 --> 00:11:07,283 And now that dreaming helps us aim 183 00:11:07,283 --> 00:11:11,183 or have a place to go so that we know we have a glimpse, we have a taste. 184 00:11:11,183 --> 00:11:14,250 We have a feel of what that world that we want 185 00:11:14,516 --> 00:11:18,750 looks like and feels like, not only for us, but for our children 186 00:11:18,983 --> 00:11:22,800 and our friends, children and the generations that come after us. 187 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:28,433 We need that space to dream, and we need that space to breathe. 188 00:11:29,333 --> 00:11:31,550 We need that space to hope. 189 00:11:31,550 --> 00:11:34,833 And as Denny reminded us, Octavia Butler 190 00:11:34,833 --> 00:11:37,850 speaks about that imagination. 191 00:11:38,816 --> 00:11:41,850 Imagination is an act of hope. 192 00:11:42,450 --> 00:11:45,050 And so if we don't have space for it, 193 00:11:45,050 --> 00:11:47,900 if we're too tired for it, 194 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:50,900 then we have a problem. 195 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:53,150 Dreaming is resistance. 196 00:11:53,150 --> 00:11:56,333 Rest allows for discovery of joy. 197 00:11:57,033 --> 00:12:00,750 Think about even how you listen to a loved one when you're super tired. 198 00:12:00,750 --> 00:12:03,750 And that might be this morning. 199 00:12:03,950 --> 00:12:05,883 That you have trouble listening. 200 00:12:05,883 --> 00:12:08,966 Or the sound distracts you or the 201 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:12,983 the the noise in the room can bother you more than usual. 202 00:12:13,016 --> 00:12:16,833 Maybe it bothers you all the time, but you're having a hard time concentrating. 203 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:20,900 Rest helps us ground ourselves, 204 00:12:21,416 --> 00:12:24,566 and it can be through meditation, and it can be through a nap. 205 00:12:24,833 --> 00:12:29,066 And it can be sitting on the bench out in the garden, in the sun, 206 00:12:29,450 --> 00:12:35,033 daydreaming for a minute or 2 or 30 minutes or more. 207 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:38,133 A place for hope. 208 00:12:38,133 --> 00:12:39,650 A place for dreaming. 209 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:41,400 A place of resistance. 210 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,350 A place where you can ground yourself not only for yourself, 211 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:48,683 but others. 212 00:12:48,683 --> 00:12:51,950 It's not a heady intellectual conceptualization of rest 213 00:12:51,950 --> 00:12:53,783 that Hersey offers us. 214 00:12:53,783 --> 00:12:56,783 It's an embodied form, 215 00:12:56,883 --> 00:12:59,883 and sometimes we get a little uncomfortable with that. 216 00:13:00,183 --> 00:13:03,600 We'd rather think about it, reason about it, maybe reject it, 217 00:13:04,016 --> 00:13:06,233 hold it out in the light. Bring it in. 218 00:13:06,233 --> 00:13:09,466 But it's an embodiments of rest 219 00:13:09,483 --> 00:13:12,483 that is the most important. 220 00:13:12,933 --> 00:13:14,366 I've been thinking about. 221 00:13:14,366 --> 00:13:15,866 Here's this book 222 00:13:15,866 --> 00:13:19,383 these last few weeks, as many of us on staff have been 223 00:13:19,383 --> 00:13:22,516 reading it and absorbing the words and we were planning this retreat. 224 00:13:22,533 --> 00:13:25,350 We have a women's retreat every fall and spring. 225 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:26,550 Is that. That's right. 226 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:30,416 And it's I've been to two now and it's it's a marvelous experience 227 00:13:30,416 --> 00:13:33,933 for women and those who identify as women in this congregation. 228 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:35,816 And as 229 00:13:35,816 --> 00:13:39,683 we were reflecting on the power of rest and where it may 230 00:13:39,683 --> 00:13:42,900 or may not be in our lives, and why we need to add it back 231 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:46,650 to be our best human selves, 232 00:13:47,633 --> 00:13:50,633 to work for a better world and for justice. 233 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,816 I thought back on a story that I read 234 00:13:53,816 --> 00:13:56,816 in the magazine. 235 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,600 It was my doctor, Rachel Naomi Raymond. 236 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Many of us know her from her book, Kitchen Table Wisdom. 237 00:14:02,933 --> 00:14:05,133 It's years ago now, and if you've never read 238 00:14:05,133 --> 00:14:07,650 Kitchen Table Wisdom, that is a great book. 239 00:14:07,650 --> 00:14:09,000 Very, very moving. 240 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,600 But this is a story that's not in that book. 241 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,666 This is back when she was serving as a clinical professor of family 242 00:14:14,666 --> 00:14:17,666 and community medicine at the University of California. 243 00:14:17,733 --> 00:14:22,083 And she describes in an interview the meeting of a group of doctors, 244 00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:25,700 as she describes it, who are recovering 245 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:28,700 from their training as doctors. 246 00:14:28,766 --> 00:14:30,900 They need to recover from that training because it's 247 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:34,850 so hyper scientific that they have trouble 248 00:14:35,850 --> 00:14:38,850 connecting with their patients. 249 00:14:38,933 --> 00:14:42,116 So using a discovery model, Raymond invited doctors 250 00:14:42,116 --> 00:14:46,283 to drop in an evening group to talk about the practice of medicine 251 00:14:46,466 --> 00:14:50,633 and topics like compassion or suffering or listening. 252 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:55,383 She was inviting, inviting them into a space of rest. 253 00:14:55,733 --> 00:14:59,750 And that's one important part of rest, is it doesn't always have to be by yourself. 254 00:15:00,416 --> 00:15:04,616 I think for some of us, perhaps this moment on a Sunday 255 00:15:04,616 --> 00:15:09,350 is a place of rest, a moment where you can put things down 256 00:15:09,950 --> 00:15:13,683 and be in another room with a community 257 00:15:14,216 --> 00:15:17,333 with similar values, similar concerns. 258 00:15:18,033 --> 00:15:20,450 To hear the breath of others. 259 00:15:20,450 --> 00:15:22,016 What a gift. 260 00:15:22,016 --> 00:15:24,650 What a gift in this world. 261 00:15:24,650 --> 00:15:28,250 So Raymond invites these doctors to do a similar thing to come, 262 00:15:28,583 --> 00:15:31,700 but they also had an assignment 263 00:15:32,133 --> 00:15:35,750 for their rest, which sounds counterintuitive, but keep with me. 264 00:15:35,966 --> 00:15:40,650 The doctors were asked to bring a story, a personal story, a bit of poetry, 265 00:15:41,333 --> 00:15:44,750 a story from the world, literature or an exercise. 266 00:15:44,816 --> 00:15:48,033 An exercise to help people be present, 267 00:15:48,383 --> 00:15:51,383 to connect, to rest more deeply. 268 00:15:51,933 --> 00:15:56,033 Now, during a session on listening, an oncologist brought a shopping bag 269 00:15:56,033 --> 00:15:59,816 with her, and in the shopping bag were 12 stethoscopes. 270 00:16:00,533 --> 00:16:03,266 She had borrowed for the evening. 271 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:05,100 And she gave everyone a stethoscope. 272 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:10,800 And she said, let's listen to our hearts for about nine minutes. 273 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:14,700 Nine minutes is a long time. 274 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:17,700 Have you ever had to do the silent thing for two minutes? 275 00:16:17,816 --> 00:16:19,166 Nine minutes. 276 00:16:19,166 --> 00:16:22,983 Listening to your own heart in a stethoscope is a long time. 277 00:16:22,983 --> 00:16:24,350 And Raymond describes the scene. 278 00:16:24,350 --> 00:16:26,933 So we started listening to our hearts. 279 00:16:26,933 --> 00:16:28,533 We were middle aged doctors. 280 00:16:28,533 --> 00:16:31,533 And for the first few minutes, you could see that everyone was 281 00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:34,533 diagnosing themselves. 282 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,950 Did I hear a weak valve? 283 00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:38,733 Was the rhythm right? 284 00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:43,616 But because nine minutes is an extended period of time, people started to move 285 00:16:43,616 --> 00:16:48,650 beyond the self diagnosing and they found something mysterious 286 00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:52,250 and quite profound. 287 00:16:52,433 --> 00:16:55,433 There were two cardiologists in that room, 288 00:16:55,883 --> 00:16:58,883 and both of them were blown away. 289 00:17:01,283 --> 00:17:04,583 She recalls, we all were moved. 290 00:17:06,183 --> 00:17:09,716 She remembers that she realized, this is Raymond. 291 00:17:09,983 --> 00:17:15,533 She realized she had never heard a heart before, or 292 00:17:16,583 --> 00:17:17,966 even as a seasoned doctor, 293 00:17:17,966 --> 00:17:20,966 because she had never really listened. 294 00:17:21,933 --> 00:17:24,983 I had also collated thousands of hearts, she says. 295 00:17:24,983 --> 00:17:27,983 But I have never heard a heart before. 296 00:17:27,983 --> 00:17:30,750 It's very, very moving, she says. 297 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:33,033 Talk about an experience of reverence 298 00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:36,033 and awe. 299 00:17:36,266 --> 00:17:38,583 I've always loved that story 300 00:17:38,583 --> 00:17:41,583 that Raymond shared in that interview. 301 00:17:42,183 --> 00:17:45,533 Doctors listening to their own hearts as a last 302 00:17:45,866 --> 00:17:48,866 lesson of compassion and listening. 303 00:17:49,166 --> 00:17:52,083 But I also like the symbolism to it, because there's 304 00:17:52,083 --> 00:17:55,083 this action moment in the heart 305 00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:56,783 and almost this rest. 306 00:17:56,783 --> 00:18:02,200 This back and forth thinking about in social justice work where we need action. 307 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:05,933 We need to show up with one another, and then we need to rest. 308 00:18:07,983 --> 00:18:10,050 To keep ourselves 309 00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:13,200 not just alive, but thriving. 310 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,033 To help others find that way, to give them the support they need. 311 00:18:21,116 --> 00:18:22,650 And I've also always wondered 312 00:18:22,650 --> 00:18:26,666 what if, in Raymond's story, the doctors had done something else? 313 00:18:26,666 --> 00:18:29,666 In that moment of awe and reverence 314 00:18:29,883 --> 00:18:33,683 to listening to their own hearts with that new listening. 315 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:37,883 Similar to what the children's story at the time for all ages. 316 00:18:37,883 --> 00:18:39,900 Bird bailer. Hearing the stars. 317 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:43,850 Hearing the coyote's hearing the blooms of flowers on a cactus 318 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,233 with that new hearing. 319 00:18:46,233 --> 00:18:50,816 If they had taken the stethoscopes, and they, with awe and reverence 320 00:18:50,816 --> 00:18:54,683 and with love, listened to the hearts of others in the room, 321 00:18:56,266 --> 00:18:58,833 perhaps choosing people who looked 322 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:01,833 and spoke the least like themselves, 323 00:19:02,816 --> 00:19:05,433 and then brought in that circle 324 00:19:05,433 --> 00:19:08,366 and then broadened it again 325 00:19:08,366 --> 00:19:10,833 to hear the heart, 326 00:19:10,833 --> 00:19:14,000 a moment of action, a moment of rest, 327 00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:18,800 the symbol of love beating in the chest 328 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:23,700 of an entire community. 329 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,033 Let's find rest. 330 00:19:27,033 --> 00:19:29,666 Let us thrive 331 00:19:29,666 --> 00:19:31,683 and let us act. 332 00:19:31,683 --> 00:19:34,683 Blessed be an amen. 333 00:20:02,450 --> 00:20:03,200 Thank you for.