Was very much having, like the perfect pregnancy and perfect birth. Having the beautiful house that we have. But for me, I've never personally maybe gone deep within myself of my purpose and pushing myself beyond those kind of boundaries that I've always said we.
You were really struggling. When you come in and you'd be like, babe. Like, you know, just total darkness. And I said, there is something that is incoherent inside of you. It's an energy that's dislodged. The irony is, when you're in a dark place like you were, you need to double down on this.
And whenever I get to a point where I'm low or where I'm really, really struggling to connect with myself, I always go back to the same thing, which is.
And then you sent me this transcript, didn't you?
Yeah, I did.
Okay. So a big welcome to beyond, a podcast with myself, Matt Cook and my beautiful wife.
Chorus and Cook.
And we are so excited to be here. If you've been following our journey, you'll know that we did do a couple of episodes at the beginning of 2025 and then we stopped. We didn't actually call it a podcast. We called it a conversation. And I think that's because intuitively, we knew we didn't have the capacity at the time to commit to a podcast full time.
Well, I think for anyone that doesn't know, we sort of, you know, we had a great run with the kind of chat, didn't we? And which I thought was really interesting because I, I think shortly after I started my Instagram and I just thought, well, if I start my own Instagram as well, then at least people know if they click on that, I kind of they can put a face to the video.
had probably a good maybe year after that where I just thought, I'm still feeling that loss of purpose. And even though I love the parts that I bring to the table in terms of how we do and create things, I still kept thinking, it's such a shame that I never continue that, and actually even kind of like a disconnect between the content that I'm posting, Because as much as I love my aesthetic quotes that I post, and I love to kind of show the behind the scenes, there is still an element, if I'm being honest when I post it, that I can hear someone in my head going, yeah, but you're not showing yourself still, though, are you?
Absolutely. I think you're right. I always said to you, you sort of started off your Instagram, probably sort of about March 2025, around the same time as the first sort of chats we had for anyone who wants to listen to those. They're. Yeah, they're on a YouTube channel, aren't they? Um, and you were very vulnerable.
how you were still struggling with purpose, even though and this was the paradox, you'd often say to me, you'd say, Matt, I feel really guilty. I look around and we've built this incredible life and we travel and we have a healthy, wonderful son, and we have a home in Cornwall, everything we dreamed of. But, Matt, there's still something missing.
So I think it's interesting because I think there might be a lot of people listening here who say, well, yeah, that's me. I've manifested everything that I've ever kind of wanted, but there's still an element of kind of being a little bit of a disconnect, and that's okay. But you have to give yourself permission.
And the.
Other. Yeah, like not really being anything about anything specific. I had this real knowing that I think sometimes when you reach that point of like, you don't know, like you don't, you can't really pinpoint how you feel. You don't know what's going on. You just know you need to find yourself again. It becomes nothing material.
Yeah. And I think before you share it, you're about to share. Let's just tee this up, because the way Carson and I work really well, whenever, whenever we're out having, like, dinner with friends, and Carson's about to tell a story, I'm there with bated breath, making sure she doesn't leave out any of the juicy details.
Well, are you trying not to?
And. Well. And you'd say to me, you're being a coach, and I'll be like, I know, but what you need help with is what I coach. And it was this real weird dynamic where I had to say to you, do you give me permission to be your coach?
Yeah.
And you were like, yeah, I do. And I said, where you are right now is you need to regulate your nervous system. There is something that is incoherent inside of you. It's an energy that's dislodged. I think it's somewhere in your lower three energy centres, perhaps your solar plexus, which is all about action, which is all about, you know, finding passion.
The irony is, when you're in a dark place like you were with this, you need. You need to double down on this. Yeah. And the problem was in the morning, it's sort of a bit of a marathon, a bit of a sort of. Uh, I come in here in the morning for an hour, and then we sort of do a relay and switch. And by the time we've done our journaling, our gratitude and everything else, really, to then sit down and do an hour's meditation that just isn't the time authentically.
And you've got to kind of ignore someone saying, oh, well, you need to meditate in the morning. You need to meditate here, you need to you've you've got to ignore that, because I think I've realised meditation is all about being able to switch off.
Exactly.
It's irrespective of when the brain waves or know the brain waves when they should be, you know, and all this. But let's just talk about the fact that if you're a busy mom and you can hear something going on, we all know it. Any moms out there will know. You hear a cry. You hear anything going on, your ears prick up and your your mind's gone.
You're a.
New person. You're living in the past. Your son here, you need to change now.
So that's when we identified that. Okay, so from ha five to half six. And I sort of said to you, you know, look, um, you might just need to have a longer meditation. It might take you a little bit longer to slow down your brain, but actually what we identified straight away was because you were able to switch off, because you knew that Humphrey's pretty good with me at like, just settling anyway in general.
I don't know, but.
Wizardry.
Anyway, even question it.
We know he's calm when he's with me. So you were able to switch off with that. And then? And then we found the meditation. And the meditation was one of those. It was something like the mystical or love.
And I looked through and I was like, right, I can't do an hour, I can't do 45 minutes, can't do that. And for now, I just swipe past any of those.
Yeah. So you found a half an hour?
One. Yeah, half an.
Hour and
share. And then and then if you, if you're okay. So everyone knows, I say to Carson, if you have a crazy experience, the first thing I want you to do is just voice note it into like, ChatGPT. And then and then just save it and send it to me. And then you sent me this, this transcript, didn't you? Yeah.
What happened? I did, and I and, uh, so it was, uh. Yeah, it was a great time because I knew what everything was like going on was sorted, and I. It's an amazing meditation, actually. I'll try and share it, uh, on my Instagram. And it has some amazing music behind it as well, which really, really helps. And so just to set the scene, uh, I decided which is something I never normally do to set an intention before the meditation.
And then so we don't miss out on any of the details.
I will miss out. By the way, I really did.
These are Carson's words, so let me just set the scene. So I'm here. Conferees fast asleep. It's about 630. I'm sort of getting up to leave his room. Phone pings. I'm like, oh, okay, so this is going to be juicy. So she's done the meditation. So these are your exact words. Okay, so Matt, I just thought I'd tie this up so I don't forget I've just done the Joe Dispenza meditation.
like there was a door and it just swung open and I was sat in there, but I was like really, really thin and I was chained and there was like only a small window in there. And I looked really, really sad.
And when I went over towards myself, I just saw myself breaking out of all these chains and just, like, exploding into this light and this fire. And then literally, I felt this hand on my head, like, so powerful. I thought it was going to break my skull. It was, like, so intense on my head. And in the middle of my forehead there was like this finger pressing down.
And then what was even weirder is I just saw those two chairs
of that podcast studio and us sitting in there, and how many different opportunities were all of a sudden coming our way and how our life was changing. And it showed me a version of you, Matt,
you now and a future. You and the same with me. And then it kept like changing to loads of different scenes of past and then into the present, and it just felt really, really good.
That's really weird hearing that back because like, yeah, it's a good job. I do voice note it because I don't know, something happens to my brain after where I'm like, oh, that didn't happen. Yeah, it's very powerful listening to that.
And I was so proud of you after that.
Yeah.
And
the reason I wanted to share that is because
I've seen and that was about a month ago.
I felt like I was losing my wife, like, in a sense, like you were in this really weird phase where half of you knew you had everything. And then there was this enormous guilt for like, why you felt like you did. and there's been a few other insane meditations you've had after that. But from that moment on,
like there's there's just been a different chorus and.
Yeah. And I think and I genuinely think that's something really important that a lot of people need to hear, whether that's, you know, um, pain that you're in, whether that's, you know, uh, something in the past that's happened that the memory of it still keeps you there. You have to go and meet that version of you.
Do you remember what she was like when you walked into that? Because what's amazing about what happens here with Corazon is like, she tells me these amazing meditations, and I'm so sort of jealous because I love to have like. And I'm like, and I'm like, Corazon, just help me. Were you like, were you just like seeing it on a movie screen or were you like, full on in?
Like, it's always very much like The observer, like I'm observing it. And in that moment, it, you know, it's very hard to relate it to yourself. But of course, the, the, the whole thing for me that I've tried to teach myself not to do is, is not even try and question what I'm seeing or even trying to think about what I'm viewing or how I'm viewing it.
And do you feel like even though it was scary as you were walking through that prison. So very scary. Is there a part of you in that moment that knows if you didn't want to face it, you could have just questioned it? Yeah, I.
Could have taken off my mask. I could have I could have just stopped. I could have, I could have said no. And there was every part of me. Just so you know, I'm always fighting 50% of me here to take my eye mask off. There's 50% of me that's always saying, right, you don't need to do this anymore. Now, this is too painful.
I'm laughing here because you are. You're so. You're so visual. Corazon will have one of these meditations, and then she'll come out and she'll be like, right. Matt, I've, um. I've seen future you and future me, and we're dressing completely differently. And I've just seen you. And you're in these Tom Ford glasses.
Just a quick one. I find it amazing how many people message me and say, Matt, I never knew that you had a community. We don't talk about it that often. It's called the Beyond Community, and basically it's a place where we just take everything we talk about on these podcasts, just much deeper with people from all over the world, all walks of life, all looking to manifest different things.
So when that scene's playing on and you see this skinny, sad version of you that's chained up, are you allowing the scene to just naturally unfold?
Yeah. Okay. Like genuinely, it's unfolding. I suppose you've got to imagine. It's like watching. It's like watching a television program. You're not you're not analysing how that's being made.
And you're full on there in that sense. Yeah.
Like that. It's literally like walking air. It's like being in a a film set, like it's you're I'm there. For example, if I,
I'm going to do something on the house, like I'm going to renovate a part of our house, I have to go and see those things physically. I have to put it all together. I've got to physically like, imagine how that's going to look, even if that's years out from me doing it for me to get excited and get that emotion I know we all know we need in order to create and to manifest.
Yeah, and I work. I decode what happened to you in that moment. And I think a lot of people will find this interesting. So that skinny version of you that was in the cell. Yeah. Is that trapped energy?
Oh.
You know, you've got that energy that's trapped in your body. And energy, bless its heart is energy that's stuck. And it's an emotion. And a lot of the time, what we need to do to regulate our nervous system and just return back to this coherence, where you can build from. It's almost like trying to imagine, like how you wouldn't be able to build a house unless the foundations are completely level.
Field, giving it permission to leave.
Giving it permission to leave. Yeah. Because so many people unconsciously trap their energy. You're absolutely right. It's a very good point. You know, you open the door and you say to the energy, the emotion, whatever it is, it's not here to hurt you. It's just been stuck behind a heavy door. Right? A prison cell in your case?
This is like childhood trauma. You know, a lot of people. You know that feeling of evoked, like your emotion or whatever, that might be something related to a past emotion or childhood trauma or whatever that might be. You know, your body will always try and protect you.
Absolutely.
Yes. Yes. You know, later. So, yeah, for me, it was just about releasing it and saying, you know, it's time for you to go. Now, thank you for trying to protect me, but I don't need protecting now. I'm fine.
And then she went. You had this vision at the end of this podcast. You sort of sketched it out and then. And then put a Canva board together and showed me what everyone can see. Now, here is the exact podcast scene that you sort of saw in your head. And we were like, right, okay, well, what what can this look?
We've been talking about it, hadn't we? And that was, that was the that was the final was like. Yes. And, you know, we planned to have some amazing guests on as well.
What should we talk about? What our plan is. Because we, Carson and I, when we do things, we we like to do it properly. Yeah. And we're like, well, initially we were going to go and film these episodes in London. There's a great studio there called podcast House. I've been on a few in-person podcasts there myself, and then we sort of looked at it and we were like, you know, it's a four hour train journey just to get to London.
Yeah. So are our conversations when it's just me and you will be here, which is amazing. We're very, very blessed to have this beautiful studio here in, in our home in Cornwall. But we should say that along our journey we've been incredibly blessed to meet some amazing people all around the world. We know some very, very interesting souls who have created some very inspiring businesses, companies you know, that are and and speak on just the most amazing topics.
Yeah, absolutely. And I think we'd love to, to spice this up. Like, yeah, you're going to see Mountain Corazon here in our beautiful studio in Cornwall that we're very, very grateful for. But, you know, this is where we make magic happen. But where do our friends who are incredible in their in their industry, they're not in a podcast studio that they're out in their in their restaurant or their coffee shop or, you know, their hotel and, and our goal and intention is to take this podcast mobile.
I have to admit, that's amazing. But I am hearing the word New York and my brain, part of my brain is going.
We love New York. We're obsessed with you.
My brain is going over there. I am listening, but no.
So. And that and that. There. And this is what's just so. And this is classical, you know. So so this is what scientists know in the classical and classical physics that that 99.9% is what we just we can't perceive. We don't ever question it. We don't ever question the fact that the radio signals were moving through our room or Wi-Fi signals.
I think the most fascinating people we meet, a lot of people who, um, I can think of actually one particular person who, uh, when we, uh, were travelling, uh, when it was around your book in New York last year and, you know, we met up with some friends there. And, you know, it's interesting to hear them just talk about their world prior to manifestation, but you can still hear it slipping in, you know, you can still hear it with the success and everything they've got going on.
Yeah. And I think the one word I'm sure you'll agree that we hear in all these conversations with all these people that eventually will get on this podcast, is the word belief.
Oh, yes. Absolutely.
They, they, they might not understand quantum mechanics and, you know, manifestation on a scientific level, but belief is quite literally everything, isn't it? Yeah. You know, and and what our goal is and what our purpose is, is to have those deeper conversations and say, look, you know, what was it?
I would say that
together we always build a kind of end goal, a dream vision, dream scenario. We actually we do this really great thing where we say, if someone could come down now with a magic, this is a really great one. By the way, anyone that maybe doesn't know what they're wanting to manifest or is like, well, I kind of can't really get 100% clear.
I think what you've said is really powerful about the magic wand. And you said that not long ago, and I was like, I love that analogy because I think what we all need to realise is there's the imagine the universe is constantly doing that with a magic wand. Constantly. And for me, it was such this paradox where I'm like, okay, well, if the universe really has got this magic wand and it's permanently granting wishes, why, why am I why, why is my life not changing?
Carson was going on at me for so long. We need to we need to really manifest help with events. We we dipped our toes in the water ourselves, didn't we?
And anyone that's tried to run an event or has run an event knows that.
Yeah.
So many elements to it.
End of 2025. We were trying to look at it ourselves and we were like, hang on, we're not an events company. We've got so many different avenues already with social media and my book and everything else. It was like, have we got capacity to even start thinking about doing events? But we knew, didn't we? We knew that the clear intent was events.
Well, we were sat watching a I think we were were we watching a podcast on YouTube? We were, wouldn't we? And we were waiting for it to load. And, uh, weirdly, because you don't you don't have any ads on your YouTube channel on yours. But
yeah, we might have been on mine, actually. And, uh, an ad popped up before we were about to watch what we were watching. And it was, I think it was a Joe Dispenza event, and it was it looked incredible. And the camera was amazing. And we were like, wow, this is incredible. And for anyone that's been to a Jovan or seen any of his work is just, yeah, inspiring.
like here, we've been presented with an opportunity to work with a company that works with some of the biggest spiritual teachers on the planet. They are experts in their field. They're amazing at what they do, and they've already messaged you. And I think there's something really interesting there, because you could have ignored that intuition and we would never have known, probably because you get so many messages and I sometimes, you know, you can't always see all of them.
Bucharest.
Promote our third in Barcelona, which is very, very exciting, but that there is just, uh, you know, a reminder for anyone that's listening to this that, you know, things are always happening, but you have also got to take action. You have also got to listen to those gut feelings, to those nudges, you know, even if you go, oh, I don't really want to do that.
So the company is called unity. And I think, like Corazon said, the first thing is we had a very clear intention. And the intention was events. Events in general. We need help with events. So we're looking to partner with someone that can help us with events. Yeah, we both were very clear on that. We both had that in our gratitude.
they started out unity, apparently working with Louise Hay in the 1980s. And then of course, Louise Hay then created hay House and obviously all the authors such as Eckel Tal, Greg Braden, Bruce Lipton, Lynne McTaggart, Jody Spencer, they all started, um, being introduced to unity and hence why now unity run events for all these teachers.
Yeah, absolutely. And it's a reminder not to control the how.
Oh yeah. Because the how's the how's the trip. And I think people get stuck with that. Yeah.
Talk about.
It. Well to to you know, set the intention, create the vision but not be too attached. Because remember the magic can come in in many different ways. Like in fact, just a quick Segway here. I remember when we were moving to Cornwall, I used to do a visualisation, a meditation in the morning, and I always used to see myself driving through rock.
Rock in Cornwall.
Yeah, if anyone that does it knows Cornwall. Rock is just the most magical and amazing place in Cornwall. And yeah, we just love it. And I always saw myself in this car that had tan leather seats and it was my dream car. And I was driving through and I looked at myself and always saw myself in that car. Now I have that car, but it's a different version of it.
Well on that note though, when you're when you're clear on what it is that you seek, this is the paradox, right? Be crystal clear, 100% clear on the intention. In our case, events in Europe and worldwide partnering with someone but then allow mass uncertainty. This is the paradox. Mass uncertainty around the actual how.
Yes. And we have some amazing people doing some amazing things in there as well. And it's a great place for support. We have a lot of people that support each other and are.
Well, we've just seen how many people are chatting to.
Each other. It's really nice. A lot of friendships have been formed and connections, and I think that's, to be honest with you, that's a large reason as to why we started it, because I think, you know, we don't necessarily have many people that understand this work closely linked to us in family, particularly.
You do for sure, because the people that you often tell become energy thieves, like your friend who's not fully on board with manifestation. And, and, you know, for example, this month in the, in the community where we're running an intention experiment. And what's super interesting about doing any form of intention experiment.
Exactly. I think it's really important. Before we wrap that, you share what happened to you in Stockholm, because that was really powerful. Oh, yeah. I was only able to stay a few hours, but I could already feel the most. We it was a beautiful, beautiful event space. The most beautiful event space. The energy in the room was really magnetic.
Well, several things. So firstly, um, about nine months ago, before I did the event, I had a very vivid dream and I woke up from that dream and made I remember making notes and I was in this really unusual religious building and I and I wasn't. And I remember looking around and walking through and people clapping and getting on stage.
And then on the day of the event, I remember walking in with you and being like, oh wow. Like, this was the exact venue, the exact place of my dream, which is incredible. And that's why even in the book, I talk about using dreams to manifest because you can have precognitive dreams, which really, you know, give you clues and help you.
you're they're not there because of them. They're there because of you. So, like, we're not here right now because of us. We're sat here right now because of that younger version of Corazon from two weeks ago, a month ago. Who did that meditation that me on that stage wasn't there because of me. I'm there because of that younger version of Matt that did that meditation.
Yeah. And that's so powerful.
And, you know.
I love that.
Like, I'm so grateful to you, but in a sense, take this in the right way. Corazon I'm grateful. So grateful for the Corazon that went really deep in that meditation. Because you and I are here now, wherever this podcast eventually goes. This is episode one, season one. We'll look back on this is it started, and we'll be eternally grateful for that.
I love that.
That's a really good way to to wrap this first.
Yeah yeah.
Thank you.
C.
Thank you so much to everyone that's listened. Uh we really, really appreciate it. And we're eternally grateful that everyone that follows us and, you know, comes for our events. It means the world. And if you haven't done so already, please subscribe.
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Me too. See you soon.