1 00:00:06,767 --> 00:00:08,167 AV Super Friends On Topic is an 2 00:00:08,288 --> 00:00:09,907 independent production wholly owned and 3 00:00:09,987 --> 00:00:12,028 operated by AV Super Friends, LLC. 4 00:00:12,448 --> 00:00:13,910 For the highest quality recording of all 5 00:00:13,929 --> 00:00:19,350 of our shows, visit AVSuperFriends.com. 6 00:00:19,370 --> 00:00:21,571 This is AV Super Friends On Topic, 7 00:00:21,692 --> 00:00:23,332 a thirty-minute monthly roundtable focused 8 00:00:23,353 --> 00:00:24,213 on a single topic. 9 00:00:24,573 --> 00:00:25,934 This discussion will be opinionated, 10 00:00:26,114 --> 00:00:26,614 to the point, 11 00:00:26,873 --> 00:00:28,655 and saturated with our well-known blend of 12 00:00:28,714 --> 00:00:30,454 painfully won expertise and deeply 13 00:00:30,495 --> 00:00:31,396 ingrained immaturity. 14 00:00:38,406 --> 00:00:39,948 For March, twenty twenty six. 15 00:00:40,008 --> 00:00:40,828 Yes, I said March. 16 00:00:40,847 --> 00:00:41,307 Deal with it. 17 00:00:41,609 --> 00:00:43,448 It's the best sounding and most regularly 18 00:00:43,529 --> 00:00:45,109 scheduled podcast in higher ed. 19 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:47,530 This is the AV Super Friends on topic. 20 00:00:47,591 --> 00:00:49,231 Episode number sixty eight. 21 00:00:50,073 --> 00:00:52,493 That's over five and a half years of 22 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:52,814 this. 23 00:00:53,506 --> 00:00:55,848 man broadcasting live across four time 24 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:58,670 zones no scratch that we dropped we lost 25 00:00:58,691 --> 00:00:59,991 somebody today broadcasting live across 26 00:01:00,091 --> 00:01:02,552 three time zones across that time zone 27 00:01:02,793 --> 00:01:04,454 though wait a minute no it is four 28 00:01:04,694 --> 00:01:06,096 me and jamie are on the same time 29 00:01:06,176 --> 00:01:08,177 oh you are okay so jamie's a scofflock 30 00:01:08,216 --> 00:01:08,938 it still applies 31 00:01:09,218 --> 00:01:11,400 Broadcasting live across four time zones, 32 00:01:11,742 --> 00:01:13,584 it's spring, because it's March, remember. 33 00:01:13,844 --> 00:01:14,525 Theater of the mind, 34 00:01:14,646 --> 00:01:15,768 where the snow is melting, 35 00:01:15,808 --> 00:01:16,909 the budgets are tightening, 36 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:18,933 the classroom tickets are blooming faster 37 00:01:18,953 --> 00:01:20,054 than the campus flower beds. 38 00:01:20,694 --> 00:01:22,057 And it's time to shake off our winter 39 00:01:22,096 --> 00:01:23,939 firmware and step boldly into spring 40 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:24,841 refresh season. 41 00:01:25,546 --> 00:01:27,188 So from preventive maintenance to project 42 00:01:27,207 --> 00:01:27,608 planning, 43 00:01:27,668 --> 00:01:29,850 from frozen loading docks to fully booked 44 00:01:29,911 --> 00:01:30,691 install calendars, 45 00:01:30,731 --> 00:01:32,112 we're thawing out the technology and 46 00:01:32,173 --> 00:01:34,215 turning up our springtime momentum. 47 00:01:34,995 --> 00:01:35,356 I'm Chris Dector. 48 00:01:35,376 --> 00:01:36,518 It's time for another Friday afternoon 49 00:01:36,558 --> 00:01:37,759 podcast adventure with the AV Super 50 00:01:37,778 --> 00:01:38,040 Friends. 51 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:40,281 And let's say hello to today's panel of 52 00:01:40,402 --> 00:01:44,566 AV Super Friends, which is this one. 53 00:01:47,528 --> 00:01:47,567 Oh, 54 00:01:47,587 --> 00:01:48,588 got to delete this because it's not that, 55 00:01:48,888 --> 00:01:49,730 Jamie's not here, sorry. 56 00:01:49,810 --> 00:01:51,691 Our first panelist ensures that every new 57 00:01:51,831 --> 00:01:54,052 AV over IP deployment blooms beautifully 58 00:01:54,132 --> 00:01:56,254 in April before immediately being clogged 59 00:01:56,275 --> 00:01:57,775 by multicast storms and metaphorical 60 00:01:57,835 --> 00:01:58,316 ragweed. 61 00:01:58,956 --> 00:02:01,179 He's a director of emerging technologies 62 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:03,000 and seasonal pollen mitigation from 63 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,781 Corvallis, Oregon. 64 00:02:03,801 --> 00:02:05,421 Say hello to Mr. Mark Kolowczynski. 65 00:02:05,903 --> 00:02:08,324 Yes, the colors are always blooming here. 66 00:02:08,383 --> 00:02:11,526 So we have somebody doing shading on all 67 00:02:11,586 --> 00:02:13,187 of our rooms all the time on every 68 00:02:13,228 --> 00:02:13,527 system. 69 00:02:13,548 --> 00:02:16,510 Just turn the gamma up a little bit. 70 00:02:16,531 --> 00:02:16,711 Exactly. 71 00:02:17,831 --> 00:02:19,812 Our next panelist champions the annual 72 00:02:19,873 --> 00:02:21,655 rediscovery of rooms that, quote, 73 00:02:21,694 --> 00:02:24,176 worked fine in the fall and now require 74 00:02:24,276 --> 00:02:26,079 emergency irrigation in the form of new 75 00:02:26,118 --> 00:02:27,860 DSP configs and a reboot ritual. 76 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:30,081 He's an assistant provost for strategic 77 00:02:30,122 --> 00:02:31,544 sprouting and deferred maintenance 78 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:33,104 awakening from Greensboro, North Carolina. 79 00:02:33,125 --> 00:02:34,346 Say hello to Mr. Larry Darling. 80 00:02:34,866 --> 00:02:37,348 Yep, I reboot every room every spring, 81 00:02:37,769 --> 00:02:38,449 just like clockwork. 82 00:02:39,150 --> 00:02:39,911 Whether it needs it or not. 83 00:02:41,758 --> 00:02:43,759 And our final panelist leads the annual 84 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,542 migration from we'll fix it in summer to 85 00:02:46,882 --> 00:02:48,862 why is this still broken in March while 86 00:02:48,883 --> 00:02:50,584 aligning capital requests with pollen 87 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:52,306 forecasts and fiscal optimism. 88 00:02:52,825 --> 00:02:54,866 He's a vice president of Vernal Refresh 89 00:02:54,907 --> 00:02:56,468 Cycles and Strategic Thawing from Bowling 90 00:02:56,489 --> 00:02:56,949 Green, Kentucky. 91 00:02:56,968 --> 00:02:58,310 Say hello to Mr. Justin Rexing. 92 00:02:59,794 --> 00:03:00,616 It's not right. 93 00:03:00,656 --> 00:03:02,956 It's really VP of run to fail. 94 00:03:03,157 --> 00:03:04,979 What the hell is, what's Vernal mean? 95 00:03:05,658 --> 00:03:06,939 Sounds like an uncle's name. 96 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:07,881 Like Uncle Vernal. 97 00:03:07,901 --> 00:03:08,381 That's Vern. 98 00:03:08,441 --> 00:03:10,323 Hey, Vernal. 99 00:03:10,483 --> 00:03:12,044 Like Uncle Vernal drank too much. 100 00:03:12,063 --> 00:03:14,186 You didn't like study Latin in school at 101 00:03:14,225 --> 00:03:14,485 all? 102 00:03:14,526 --> 00:03:15,425 So, okay. 103 00:03:15,526 --> 00:03:16,106 I mean, a little bit. 104 00:03:16,127 --> 00:03:17,427 I was Catholic for a little bit. 105 00:03:17,448 --> 00:03:17,728 All right. 106 00:03:17,788 --> 00:03:19,149 For a little bit. 107 00:03:19,169 --> 00:03:20,750 For a little bit. 108 00:03:20,789 --> 00:03:22,251 I'm still Catholic. 109 00:03:22,611 --> 00:03:24,752 I haven't read Latin since like third 110 00:03:24,772 --> 00:03:25,433 grade, I guess. 111 00:03:27,241 --> 00:03:27,562 I don't know. 112 00:03:27,581 --> 00:03:29,562 Well, anyway, speaking of being Catholic, 113 00:03:29,582 --> 00:03:30,423 let's lean into that. 114 00:03:30,582 --> 00:03:31,122 On today's show, 115 00:03:31,143 --> 00:03:32,923 we're going to discuss our top ten 116 00:03:33,002 --> 00:03:34,524 commandments of AV. 117 00:03:35,264 --> 00:03:36,264 But first, a little bit of housekeeping. 118 00:03:36,283 --> 00:03:36,963 So, first of all, 119 00:03:37,024 --> 00:03:38,223 if you're listening to this as a recorded 120 00:03:38,264 --> 00:03:38,764 MP three, 121 00:03:39,245 --> 00:03:40,564 while you're crawling through a ceiling, 122 00:03:40,604 --> 00:03:42,064 replacing a failed HDMI extender, 123 00:03:42,085 --> 00:03:43,466 just know that we do stream live on 124 00:03:43,506 --> 00:03:44,866 Fridays at about three fifteen Eastern 125 00:03:44,885 --> 00:03:47,205 twelve fifteen Pacific or whenever Mark's 126 00:03:47,246 --> 00:03:48,747 seasonal allergies subside. 127 00:03:49,407 --> 00:03:49,766 And of course, 128 00:03:49,806 --> 00:03:51,086 we were all late today because we had 129 00:03:51,106 --> 00:03:52,727 a meeting right before this and that ran 130 00:03:52,787 --> 00:03:54,348 long and then we're in all sorts of 131 00:03:54,388 --> 00:03:55,027 planning retreat. 132 00:03:56,168 --> 00:03:57,109 For two hours. 133 00:03:57,308 --> 00:03:58,050 It was a treat. 134 00:03:58,189 --> 00:03:58,691 Yes, that's right. 135 00:03:59,070 --> 00:04:00,431 You can catch us live on YouTube, 136 00:04:00,451 --> 00:04:01,233 LinkedIn, and Twitter, 137 00:04:01,293 --> 00:04:02,593 and when the pollen count is high, 138 00:04:02,614 --> 00:04:04,175 the takes are hotter, 139 00:04:04,235 --> 00:04:05,657 and occasionally we'll even take your 140 00:04:05,697 --> 00:04:06,097 calls, 141 00:04:06,477 --> 00:04:07,538 which I don't have set up right now. 142 00:04:07,557 --> 00:04:09,740 Deal with it. 143 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:11,382 Spring is all about renewals, new growth, 144 00:04:11,442 --> 00:04:11,981 fresh start, 145 00:04:12,002 --> 00:04:13,704 so maybe this season's the season that you 146 00:04:13,824 --> 00:04:15,504 finally follow us on the socials. 147 00:04:15,544 --> 00:04:17,266 Go search for AV Super Friends on YouTube, 148 00:04:17,307 --> 00:04:18,947 LinkedIn, Twitter, and Blue Sky, 149 00:04:19,129 --> 00:04:21,009 and we see you out there posting stuff, 150 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:22,430 so give us a follow, too. 151 00:04:23,132 --> 00:04:24,291 While you're out there decluttering your 152 00:04:24,392 --> 00:04:24,673 office, 153 00:04:24,713 --> 00:04:26,052 please consider planting the seeds of 154 00:04:26,112 --> 00:04:27,793 chaos by sharing this podcast with your 155 00:04:27,814 --> 00:04:29,454 coworkers, your local integrator, 156 00:04:29,494 --> 00:04:30,334 your procurement office, 157 00:04:30,355 --> 00:04:32,154 that one faculty 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never crossing the stream, 174 00:04:57,646 --> 00:04:59,228 so keep an eye on what we're doing 175 00:04:59,247 --> 00:04:59,408 here. 176 00:04:59,427 --> 00:05:00,149 Thank you for your support. 177 00:05:00,168 --> 00:05:03,290 We couldn't do this without your support. 178 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:03,911 Yay. 179 00:05:04,291 --> 00:05:04,771 All righty. 180 00:05:04,831 --> 00:05:05,232 We did it. 181 00:05:05,512 --> 00:05:06,333 What, do you want more clapping? 182 00:05:06,353 --> 00:05:09,415 It's like four people clapping there. 183 00:05:10,555 --> 00:05:11,757 That's about right. 184 00:05:12,798 --> 00:05:13,077 All right, 185 00:05:13,137 --> 00:05:16,600 so let's go to this month's topic, 186 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:17,862 which is... 187 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,880 So, Justin, this was your suggestion. 188 00:05:26,221 --> 00:05:26,740 Yeah. 189 00:05:26,781 --> 00:05:27,701 So just so everyone knows, 190 00:05:27,781 --> 00:05:29,562 we have an editorial calendar for the 191 00:05:29,601 --> 00:05:31,483 entire year except March. 192 00:05:31,523 --> 00:05:33,103 It literally says TBD. 193 00:05:33,483 --> 00:05:35,024 There is no plan for March. 194 00:05:35,064 --> 00:05:36,404 We change it up every year. 195 00:05:37,478 --> 00:05:38,699 And Justin, this was your suggestion. 196 00:05:38,718 --> 00:05:39,298 You were like, well, Hey, 197 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:40,079 let's talk about this. 198 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:41,701 So Justin go, what are we talking about? 199 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:43,262 It's the vernal season, Justin. 200 00:05:43,281 --> 00:05:44,062 So what do you have? 201 00:05:44,142 --> 00:05:45,644 Use your vernal Catholic Latin. 202 00:05:46,144 --> 00:05:49,165 So being on a campus with a hill, 203 00:05:49,185 --> 00:05:50,706 sometimes you find yourself walking around 204 00:05:50,766 --> 00:05:51,447 thinking a lot. 205 00:05:51,648 --> 00:05:53,488 And I was thinking one day about all 206 00:05:53,509 --> 00:05:54,730 the problems I had and I was, 207 00:05:54,810 --> 00:05:55,069 you know, 208 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:56,990 we ought to do a show about the 209 00:05:57,071 --> 00:05:58,372 ten commandments of AB. 210 00:05:59,033 --> 00:05:59,552 So here we are. 211 00:06:01,327 --> 00:06:03,129 So we talked about how to do it. 212 00:06:03,149 --> 00:06:03,408 I'm curious, 213 00:06:03,428 --> 00:06:04,309 why did that anecdote need to have a 214 00:06:04,369 --> 00:06:04,709 hill? 215 00:06:05,129 --> 00:06:05,470 Yeah, 216 00:06:05,790 --> 00:06:07,730 because every campus I've been on has a 217 00:06:07,771 --> 00:06:08,011 hill. 218 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:09,471 Because all religions need death. 219 00:06:09,492 --> 00:06:12,293 We're the hill-toppers, thank you. 220 00:06:12,312 --> 00:06:13,112 I just mean you're on top of the 221 00:06:13,153 --> 00:06:13,233 hill. 222 00:06:13,252 --> 00:06:14,394 You're just at the top of the hill. 223 00:06:15,014 --> 00:06:16,274 We are known for our hills. 224 00:06:16,415 --> 00:06:17,295 And I bet you there's a lot of 225 00:06:17,394 --> 00:06:19,375 universities in Texas that are not on 226 00:06:19,435 --> 00:06:19,596 hills. 227 00:06:19,615 --> 00:06:19,915 Is that a thing? 228 00:06:19,935 --> 00:06:20,737 But maybe some are. 229 00:06:21,156 --> 00:06:22,877 The hill-toppers is like straight up 230 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:23,898 because you're known for hills? 231 00:06:25,285 --> 00:06:26,545 Wyoming's not on a hill. 232 00:06:27,406 --> 00:06:28,507 No, there's a mountain. 233 00:06:28,807 --> 00:06:29,228 Mountains. 234 00:06:30,649 --> 00:06:31,389 Baby hills. 235 00:06:32,509 --> 00:06:35,172 Our campus is more like that. 236 00:06:35,211 --> 00:06:36,411 Most camps are more like this. 237 00:06:36,812 --> 00:06:38,113 Yes, because when they built the town, 238 00:06:38,134 --> 00:06:38,574 they were like, hey, 239 00:06:38,593 --> 00:06:39,754 there's a flat spot over there. 240 00:06:39,975 --> 00:06:41,055 That's where we should build the town. 241 00:06:42,737 --> 00:06:43,896 This guy from Kentucky was like, 242 00:06:43,916 --> 00:06:44,798 top of the mountain! 243 00:06:45,038 --> 00:06:45,918 Top of the hill. 244 00:06:45,999 --> 00:06:46,759 Hill toppers. 245 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,781 Anyway, so everybody started debating, 246 00:06:50,802 --> 00:06:50,901 well, 247 00:06:50,922 --> 00:06:51,702 how are we going to get through the 248 00:06:51,723 --> 00:06:52,122 show? 249 00:06:52,663 --> 00:06:53,843 There's so much to talk about. 250 00:06:53,903 --> 00:06:54,904 Ten Commandments, like 251 00:06:55,461 --> 00:06:56,601 just listed Ten Commandments. 252 00:06:56,622 --> 00:06:59,084 You just come up with ten items. 253 00:06:59,103 --> 00:07:00,865 So I came up with quite a few 254 00:07:00,886 --> 00:07:01,105 here. 255 00:07:01,165 --> 00:07:03,648 Yeah, I just just in five minutes, 256 00:07:03,687 --> 00:07:04,348 I came up with this. 257 00:07:04,408 --> 00:07:06,329 So I know they're supposed to come up 258 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:06,911 with two or three. 259 00:07:06,951 --> 00:07:08,012 You want me to read all of mine 260 00:07:08,052 --> 00:07:10,233 and just go through your list? 261 00:07:10,454 --> 00:07:12,074 What defines let's define a command? 262 00:07:12,115 --> 00:07:13,997 What defines your top ten commandments? 263 00:07:14,016 --> 00:07:14,697 These are things you know, 264 00:07:14,858 --> 00:07:17,540 commandments are things that you shall or 265 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,723 shall not do in any circumstance at this 266 00:07:20,783 --> 00:07:22,084 point in our AV careers. 267 00:07:23,028 --> 00:07:25,353 It's just you shouldn't or should do these 268 00:07:25,392 --> 00:07:25,612 things. 269 00:07:25,632 --> 00:07:26,875 You should not or maybe should or 270 00:07:26,894 --> 00:07:27,675 sometimes maybe you do. 271 00:07:27,716 --> 00:07:30,740 It just explicitly... It depends. 272 00:07:30,761 --> 00:07:32,704 If you should or should not in each 273 00:07:32,723 --> 00:07:33,264 commandment. 274 00:07:33,444 --> 00:07:35,687 So it's not always thou shall. 275 00:07:35,788 --> 00:07:37,290 It's sometimes thou shall not. 276 00:07:37,992 --> 00:07:38,752 Unless you shall. 277 00:07:39,052 --> 00:07:40,773 Or shouldn't. 278 00:07:41,252 --> 00:07:43,452 General AV words of wisdom. 279 00:07:44,774 --> 00:07:48,214 These are just general words of wisdom. 280 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:49,235 General suggestions. 281 00:07:50,254 --> 00:07:51,814 Suggestions, not commandments. 282 00:07:52,615 --> 00:07:55,115 The most strongest beliefs that Justin has 283 00:07:55,235 --> 00:07:57,137 as of today in line with AV. 284 00:07:57,156 --> 00:07:58,336 Now, this is fluid. 285 00:07:58,357 --> 00:07:59,197 It could change tomorrow. 286 00:07:59,216 --> 00:08:00,317 I was going to say, it sounds fluid. 287 00:08:00,658 --> 00:08:01,958 How many of these are based on today's 288 00:08:02,017 --> 00:08:04,278 commandments or tomorrow's? 289 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,480 as follows today's commandments are 290 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:10,362 tomorrow's problems let's just let's 291 00:08:10,442 --> 00:08:13,125 realize that possibly but not necessarily 292 00:08:13,225 --> 00:08:14,605 so just because i clipped this i want 293 00:08:14,625 --> 00:08:16,067 to run it anyway because it's funny and 294 00:08:16,166 --> 00:08:18,168 it cracks me up would you clip what 295 00:08:18,249 --> 00:08:21,370 i what i say go all pay heed 296 00:08:21,391 --> 00:08:32,379 the lord the lord jehovah has given unto 297 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:33,301 you these fifteen ten ten commandments for 298 00:08:33,321 --> 00:08:34,361 all to obey 299 00:08:35,504 --> 00:08:36,104 Okay. 300 00:08:36,163 --> 00:08:37,144 Sorry, you said Ten Commandments. 301 00:08:37,164 --> 00:08:38,144 That's the first thing that came to mind 302 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:39,605 was the Mel Brooks classics. 303 00:08:39,666 --> 00:08:42,727 So these are not in any specific weighted 304 00:08:42,927 --> 00:08:43,727 order whatsoever, 305 00:08:43,748 --> 00:08:46,229 but genuinely you have very strong beliefs 306 00:08:46,269 --> 00:08:46,769 about these. 307 00:08:46,788 --> 00:08:46,970 Yes. 308 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:49,630 Like I always try to follow these things. 309 00:08:50,652 --> 00:08:53,933 except i know i see someone on your 310 00:08:53,974 --> 00:08:56,075 list that you do not follow yeah i 311 00:08:56,095 --> 00:08:57,076 can't yeah we just gotta get we're not 312 00:08:57,096 --> 00:08:58,716 gonna have times and we gotta get in 313 00:08:58,736 --> 00:09:00,197 here somewhere so i want to know what 314 00:09:00,217 --> 00:09:02,139 those are larry how do you know we'll 315 00:09:02,158 --> 00:09:03,440 get there i'm i'm curious if we could 316 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:05,081 this could go many different ways today we 317 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,981 might just do you want me to just 318 00:09:07,142 --> 00:09:08,282 know do you want me to pause and 319 00:09:08,302 --> 00:09:09,982 talk about each i would say pick pick 320 00:09:10,144 --> 00:09:11,644 one and we'll go around one let's go 321 00:09:11,663 --> 00:09:14,125 there and usb 322 00:09:16,311 --> 00:09:17,451 I don't think any of us disagree with. 323 00:09:17,471 --> 00:09:19,072 Okay, 324 00:09:19,091 --> 00:09:20,591 that was the one that was when he 325 00:09:20,631 --> 00:09:24,552 came down reading an order. 326 00:09:24,592 --> 00:09:26,332 Mouse and keyboard are farther away from 327 00:09:26,352 --> 00:09:27,874 your computer than move the computer. 328 00:09:28,094 --> 00:09:29,274 It's called wireless keyboard and mouse. 329 00:09:30,374 --> 00:09:31,433 That's an IT thing. 330 00:09:31,453 --> 00:09:33,855 That's a nightmare. 331 00:09:33,914 --> 00:09:35,315 Okay, 332 00:09:35,335 --> 00:09:36,576 that's a different group on your campus. 333 00:09:36,775 --> 00:09:37,995 Okay, so what's up? 334 00:09:38,056 --> 00:09:39,395 I want to know we don't want to 335 00:09:39,416 --> 00:09:39,816 rattle off. 336 00:09:40,255 --> 00:09:42,277 We're talking about USB in the 337 00:09:43,479 --> 00:09:45,721 the naughty list kind of not from cameras, 338 00:09:45,821 --> 00:09:48,282 not from other high bandwidth USB sources, 339 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:48,623 correct? 340 00:09:49,043 --> 00:09:50,063 Stop doing that. 341 00:09:50,104 --> 00:09:50,224 Yeah, 342 00:09:50,264 --> 00:09:53,946 you're saying don't use USB as a 343 00:09:53,985 --> 00:09:56,488 replacement for the appropriate transport 344 00:09:56,668 --> 00:09:58,690 by extending USB through some bootleg, 345 00:09:58,870 --> 00:09:59,990 you know, IT nonsense. 346 00:10:00,311 --> 00:10:03,192 If it's not an SDI or Cat.Six type 347 00:10:03,232 --> 00:10:04,153 cable, you're in trouble. 348 00:10:04,533 --> 00:10:06,014 That I agree with. 349 00:10:06,335 --> 00:10:08,917 That's not extending USB. 350 00:10:10,246 --> 00:10:12,393 Because it's not the cat six is the 351 00:10:12,432 --> 00:10:12,955 problem. 352 00:10:13,034 --> 00:10:13,456 It's the 353 00:10:15,196 --> 00:10:17,037 TXRX sides that become issues. 354 00:10:17,097 --> 00:10:17,357 Yeah. 355 00:10:17,457 --> 00:10:19,219 All right. 356 00:10:19,239 --> 00:10:21,081 So is it because it's going to go 357 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,081 wrong, just generally, 358 00:10:22,201 --> 00:10:23,182 thou shalt not do it because you're not 359 00:10:23,201 --> 00:10:23,702 going to have a good time? 360 00:10:23,722 --> 00:10:24,582 It's been a pain. 361 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:25,783 It's been quite a bit of a pain. 362 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:27,826 Well, if a friend of the show, 363 00:10:28,346 --> 00:10:28,986 Joe Cornwell, was here, 364 00:10:29,006 --> 00:10:30,668 he'd tell us USB was not designed for 365 00:10:30,707 --> 00:10:30,928 that. 366 00:10:31,048 --> 00:10:32,549 USB was designed to talk to local 367 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:35,052 peripherals connected to a computer. 368 00:10:36,153 --> 00:10:37,854 It's not made to go long distance. 369 00:10:37,894 --> 00:10:38,114 And yes, 370 00:10:38,153 --> 00:10:39,995 you can make it go long distance, 371 00:10:40,015 --> 00:10:41,017 but there's all sorts of things. 372 00:10:41,037 --> 00:10:42,457 Because now you're way outside the spec of 373 00:10:42,498 --> 00:10:43,639 what that protocol is supposed to do. 374 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:46,320 You run into all sorts of nonsense support 375 00:10:46,340 --> 00:10:46,799 issues. 376 00:10:47,541 --> 00:10:48,701 I want to know what Larry thinks that 377 00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:50,422 I do on this list because I'm shocked 378 00:10:50,461 --> 00:10:50,881 at that. 379 00:10:50,902 --> 00:10:51,442 We'll get there. 380 00:10:51,582 --> 00:10:52,802 We're going to get there. 381 00:10:52,822 --> 00:10:54,323 Can I just rattle these off real quick? 382 00:10:54,344 --> 00:10:56,144 No, no, no. 383 00:10:56,164 --> 00:10:58,625 Larry, go. 384 00:10:58,645 --> 00:11:00,326 Thou shall not use two screens when one 385 00:11:00,366 --> 00:11:00,787 will do. 386 00:11:01,047 --> 00:11:03,528 And what that means is you simplify the 387 00:11:03,567 --> 00:11:05,509 functionality for the end user even if 388 00:11:05,528 --> 00:11:06,168 they don't want to. 389 00:11:06,730 --> 00:11:10,851 You got to understand what they think they 390 00:11:10,892 --> 00:11:11,371 want to do. 391 00:11:12,253 --> 00:11:13,854 And then also understand the cognitive 392 00:11:13,894 --> 00:11:15,315 load of what that's going to take them 393 00:11:15,335 --> 00:11:15,575 to do. 394 00:11:15,595 --> 00:11:16,455 And they're not going to be able to 395 00:11:16,475 --> 00:11:17,696 do that in the middle of a class. 396 00:11:17,975 --> 00:11:20,657 And so simplify the system in such a 397 00:11:20,677 --> 00:11:22,238 way that they can actually accomplish 398 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:23,219 teaching. 399 00:11:23,619 --> 00:11:24,619 And most of the time, Larry, 400 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:25,700 I'll back you up on this. 401 00:11:26,059 --> 00:11:28,682 It breaks your viewing angle standards. 402 00:11:29,322 --> 00:11:29,662 Yeah, 403 00:11:29,701 --> 00:11:32,322 like there are lots of reasons to simplify 404 00:11:32,363 --> 00:11:33,903 and not do stuff like what if I 405 00:11:34,024 --> 00:11:34,965 add another screen? 406 00:11:36,152 --> 00:11:36,511 Oh, yeah. 407 00:11:36,532 --> 00:11:37,552 Like a third screen in the middle. 408 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:38,995 That's half the content here. 409 00:11:39,014 --> 00:11:39,095 Well, 410 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:39,794 just look up to the side of one 411 00:11:39,815 --> 00:11:39,955 of them. 412 00:11:40,034 --> 00:11:41,437 Eight of them circling the room? 413 00:11:41,616 --> 00:11:42,136 At an angle. 414 00:11:42,457 --> 00:11:42,758 Yeah. 415 00:11:43,018 --> 00:11:43,879 Mark eight screens. 416 00:11:43,899 --> 00:11:44,980 What's going on there? 417 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:47,562 So I want to lean into the discomfort 418 00:11:47,581 --> 00:11:48,102 of this a little bit. 419 00:11:49,224 --> 00:11:51,225 Is there a correct environment where Val 420 00:11:51,304 --> 00:11:52,645 can have two screens? 421 00:11:52,667 --> 00:11:53,407 Yes. 422 00:11:53,427 --> 00:11:54,908 Conference rooms can work, 423 00:11:55,028 --> 00:11:56,289 depending on the shape of the furniture. 424 00:11:56,309 --> 00:11:58,291 That was probably the least on my list, 425 00:11:58,331 --> 00:11:58,751 but OK. 426 00:11:59,111 --> 00:12:01,293 Because if I'm laying it out, they design. 427 00:12:01,313 --> 00:12:02,294 Let me redact that statement. 428 00:12:03,666 --> 00:12:06,369 Can thou do this in a typical learning 429 00:12:06,408 --> 00:12:08,171 environment successfully, Larry? 430 00:12:08,410 --> 00:12:08,851 Maybe, 431 00:12:08,932 --> 00:12:10,153 depends on the shape of the room and 432 00:12:10,173 --> 00:12:10,614 furniture. 433 00:12:10,653 --> 00:12:13,177 But if two displays can cover the entire 434 00:12:13,317 --> 00:12:15,879 audience in the same manner and everyone 435 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:17,041 can see the content. 436 00:12:17,802 --> 00:12:18,062 Equally. 437 00:12:18,101 --> 00:12:19,644 You can have two screens up there, 438 00:12:19,683 --> 00:12:21,866 but it's very limited because most people 439 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:23,087 don't design classrooms that way. 440 00:12:23,128 --> 00:12:24,249 I've come across a couple. 441 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:25,990 But Justin, 442 00:12:26,029 --> 00:12:27,971 let me give you an alternative here. 443 00:12:28,371 --> 00:12:29,572 I teach in the College of Business. 444 00:12:29,893 --> 00:12:31,813 I need two screens because two is better 445 00:12:31,833 --> 00:12:31,994 than one. 446 00:12:32,014 --> 00:12:33,615 I have two monitors at my computer. 447 00:12:33,735 --> 00:12:35,416 Therefore, I need two computer screens. 448 00:12:35,456 --> 00:12:36,256 I think we all see that. 449 00:12:36,277 --> 00:12:36,836 We see this a lot. 450 00:12:36,856 --> 00:12:37,356 I think we'd all agree. 451 00:12:37,376 --> 00:12:38,018 You need to change rooms. 452 00:12:38,097 --> 00:12:39,337 I don't disagree. 453 00:12:39,357 --> 00:12:40,938 I'm just saying this seems to be something 454 00:12:40,979 --> 00:12:42,399 from the College of Business for whatever 455 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:42,700 reason. 456 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,181 They're like, we need two screens in here. 457 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:44,581 Why? 458 00:12:44,662 --> 00:12:46,283 Well, because that'd be two. 459 00:12:47,043 --> 00:12:49,063 no i was actually going to bring tease 460 00:12:49,083 --> 00:12:50,183 this out how much time we have in 461 00:12:50,224 --> 00:12:51,644 this there seems to be this like 462 00:12:51,725 --> 00:12:53,904 disconnect between like screen real estate 463 00:12:54,004 --> 00:12:57,086 and two pipes exactly and it's like 464 00:12:57,787 --> 00:12:58,886 there's this modality people get and 465 00:12:58,907 --> 00:13:00,648 they're like no i need two pipes worth 466 00:13:00,687 --> 00:13:02,427 of real estate but what if i give 467 00:13:02,447 --> 00:13:04,428 you the same thing no no i need 468 00:13:04,509 --> 00:13:07,769 two things my response is it always gets 469 00:13:07,809 --> 00:13:08,950 into that well what about powerpoint in my 470 00:13:08,990 --> 00:13:10,770 notes that's usually the hill this falls 471 00:13:10,791 --> 00:13:12,532 apart you don't want to show the class 472 00:13:12,552 --> 00:13:13,432 your notes so it's okay 473 00:13:13,711 --> 00:13:16,113 right so my point is always do you 474 00:13:16,153 --> 00:13:17,994 want to disservice half the room you want 475 00:13:19,614 --> 00:13:21,554 to i say that to the faculty i 476 00:13:21,575 --> 00:13:25,256 was like you were doing this i don't 477 00:13:25,297 --> 00:13:28,158 like them they can't see it and they're 478 00:13:28,197 --> 00:13:30,879 like and they usually say oh i never 479 00:13:31,318 --> 00:13:33,159 never thought of it that way of course 480 00:13:33,179 --> 00:13:35,059 we'll keep one and like okay then that's 481 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,280 what we're gonna make a real small one 482 00:13:36,321 --> 00:13:38,221 over in the corner i need all the 483 00:13:38,241 --> 00:13:39,361 whiteboard space i'm not going to 484 00:13:39,381 --> 00:13:41,123 sacrifice any of that second monitor 485 00:13:42,092 --> 00:13:44,514 But that is for you to use and 486 00:13:44,573 --> 00:13:45,553 not to be broadcasting that. 487 00:13:45,815 --> 00:13:47,575 Can I turn it around so the students 488 00:13:47,634 --> 00:13:47,975 can view it? 489 00:13:48,035 --> 00:13:48,495 I'd love that. 490 00:13:48,515 --> 00:13:49,336 They do that a lot. 491 00:13:49,696 --> 00:13:50,216 I don't give a shit. 492 00:13:50,235 --> 00:13:51,476 You can try. 493 00:13:52,057 --> 00:13:53,778 Until they rip tables out of stuff. 494 00:13:53,798 --> 00:13:55,458 Yeah, it ain't going to work very well. 495 00:13:55,479 --> 00:13:56,479 So we're not doing two screens just 496 00:13:56,538 --> 00:13:58,220 normally across the board. 497 00:13:58,259 --> 00:13:59,780 Nothing that makes them route something 498 00:13:59,821 --> 00:14:00,760 else from a separate touch. 499 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,822 I only do it if it makes sense 500 00:14:02,861 --> 00:14:04,763 from a visual acuity perspective. 501 00:14:04,802 --> 00:14:05,462 Okay. 502 00:14:06,302 --> 00:14:07,224 There's a lot there, but okay. 503 00:14:07,663 --> 00:14:10,144 Mark, what's coming off your list here? 504 00:14:10,702 --> 00:14:14,145 Thou shall design for serviceability. 505 00:14:14,466 --> 00:14:17,187 It is non negotiable. 506 00:14:17,227 --> 00:14:18,208 Which means that's on my list to kind 507 00:14:18,269 --> 00:14:20,410 of the same. 508 00:14:20,530 --> 00:14:20,571 No, 509 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:22,211 I think it's important because it's a good 510 00:14:22,272 --> 00:14:22,873 concept. 511 00:14:22,913 --> 00:14:24,594 I'm not disagreeing with understand that 512 00:14:25,134 --> 00:14:26,395 this this is not necessarily what am I 513 00:14:26,416 --> 00:14:27,876 going to design my pin down? 514 00:14:27,897 --> 00:14:28,597 I'm gonna read this thing. 515 00:14:28,618 --> 00:14:30,458 But when you view options and 516 00:14:30,499 --> 00:14:31,840 opportunities and manufacturers come to 517 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:32,000 you, 518 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,361 do you understand what that means to your 519 00:14:34,562 --> 00:14:35,342 serviceability? 520 00:14:35,363 --> 00:14:36,443 Does the impact of 521 00:14:36,923 --> 00:14:38,926 your staff how does it tie into your 522 00:14:39,025 --> 00:14:40,626 ecosystem all that just because it does 523 00:14:40,667 --> 00:14:42,928 something on paper does not necessarily 524 00:14:43,048 --> 00:14:45,090 make ensure that's going to translate to 525 00:14:45,450 --> 00:14:46,770 what you need from a serviceability 526 00:14:46,791 --> 00:14:49,173 standpoint we all have ecosystems pick 527 00:14:49,192 --> 00:14:51,294 your whatever it is does this work well 528 00:14:51,495 --> 00:14:53,736 outside of what just the specs say do 529 00:14:53,777 --> 00:14:55,238 your people know how to do it are 530 00:14:55,258 --> 00:14:56,538 they trained to do it under skill like 531 00:14:57,158 --> 00:14:58,259 have that in the back of your mind 532 00:14:58,419 --> 00:14:59,061 not just 533 00:14:59,801 --> 00:15:00,701 Well, it says it can do it. 534 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:02,121 And it's got the right number of eyes 535 00:15:02,142 --> 00:15:02,642 and the right amount. 536 00:15:02,822 --> 00:15:04,883 Oh, so it should work. 537 00:15:05,202 --> 00:15:06,283 That's kind of where we see a lot 538 00:15:06,302 --> 00:15:07,624 of that friction with like consultants all 539 00:15:07,663 --> 00:15:07,864 time. 540 00:15:07,943 --> 00:15:08,884 Well, they're like, well, 541 00:15:08,903 --> 00:15:10,105 just says it can do this, like, 542 00:15:10,125 --> 00:15:12,065 but it doesn't fit my service ecosystem 543 00:15:12,085 --> 00:15:13,745 doesn't fit my capacity of my students, 544 00:15:13,765 --> 00:15:15,025 my technicians, all those things. 545 00:15:15,066 --> 00:15:17,527 So I think it's imperative that all 546 00:15:17,547 --> 00:15:19,508 designs be viewed through that 547 00:15:19,548 --> 00:15:20,447 serviceability lens, 548 00:15:20,488 --> 00:15:21,828 I think it's too critical and 549 00:15:22,548 --> 00:15:23,509 It's too much risk if you don't. 550 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:25,409 So is that because you're talking 551 00:15:25,429 --> 00:15:27,149 serviceability and standardization all in 552 00:15:27,210 --> 00:15:27,610 one shot, 553 00:15:27,890 --> 00:15:30,211 your standards should follow the same 554 00:15:30,270 --> 00:15:30,750 suit, right? 555 00:15:30,791 --> 00:15:33,272 They should become written in a way that 556 00:15:33,471 --> 00:15:35,113 speaks to how you're servicing and 557 00:15:35,153 --> 00:15:36,192 supporting the space, 558 00:15:36,293 --> 00:15:38,033 not just because it has the whiz bang 559 00:15:38,053 --> 00:15:38,394 thing. 560 00:15:39,354 --> 00:15:40,453 Can you actually do this? 561 00:15:40,474 --> 00:15:41,975 So if you say yes to this, 562 00:15:42,134 --> 00:15:43,335 what does it mean for you? 563 00:15:43,754 --> 00:15:45,556 Can you afford saying yes to this product 564 00:15:45,635 --> 00:15:46,275 or this service? 565 00:15:47,149 --> 00:15:49,811 yeah i i almost had the same thing 566 00:15:49,870 --> 00:15:53,211 like i had like treat yourself as treat 567 00:15:53,292 --> 00:15:55,192 your future you as the most important 568 00:15:55,231 --> 00:15:57,913 client system that you put in has to 569 00:15:57,932 --> 00:15:59,753 be serviceable and it also has to be 570 00:16:00,552 --> 00:16:02,913 standardized like you don't put a piece of 571 00:16:02,933 --> 00:16:05,553 equipment in until jamie has tested it on 572 00:16:05,653 --> 00:16:08,495 his system for a year yes once jamie 573 00:16:08,514 --> 00:16:09,754 has figured out how many times it's going 574 00:16:09,774 --> 00:16:11,596 to fail and what the remediation path is 575 00:16:11,855 --> 00:16:14,756 then you can use it yes now shall 576 00:16:14,797 --> 00:16:15,917 not test equipment 577 00:16:16,769 --> 00:16:18,951 no battle shall not test equipment on your 578 00:16:18,990 --> 00:16:23,471 network tested on jamie's okay so that i 579 00:16:23,491 --> 00:16:25,351 mean do you well let's i mean do 580 00:16:25,371 --> 00:16:27,133 you agree disagree with this i mean i 581 00:16:27,173 --> 00:16:28,732 agree it's just like i'm going through 582 00:16:28,952 --> 00:16:30,352 mine you've stepped on like three of mine 583 00:16:30,373 --> 00:16:32,094 with just one there so but that's that's 584 00:16:32,153 --> 00:16:33,994 on brand for me yeah he's kind of 585 00:16:34,553 --> 00:16:36,495 broad sweeping in his commandments 586 00:16:36,874 --> 00:16:37,875 Well, I think, to me, 587 00:16:38,196 --> 00:16:39,397 I would have started off with that. 588 00:16:39,476 --> 00:16:40,378 I disagree with the way you, 589 00:16:40,438 --> 00:16:41,340 and I think it's just your phrasing. 590 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:42,620 I disagree that we design, 591 00:16:44,102 --> 00:16:47,086 that standards are based on serviceability 592 00:16:47,106 --> 00:16:47,648 as a primary. 593 00:16:47,687 --> 00:16:48,928 Standards should be based, in my opinion, 594 00:16:48,948 --> 00:16:50,110 standards should be based on experience of 595 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:50,711 teaching and learning. 596 00:16:50,812 --> 00:16:53,634 Is that not the service that we're trying 597 00:16:53,674 --> 00:16:54,395 to deliver anyway? 598 00:16:54,436 --> 00:16:54,897 I don't know. 599 00:16:55,774 --> 00:16:56,495 I think it's both. 600 00:16:56,515 --> 00:16:57,235 I think it's both. 601 00:16:57,296 --> 00:16:58,517 I think there's a happy medium here. 602 00:16:58,557 --> 00:16:59,878 To me, that's a support ability, 603 00:16:59,898 --> 00:17:01,940 and that's your staff's ability to 604 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:02,539 maintain. 605 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,921 But if the system goes down, 606 00:17:03,961 --> 00:17:05,241 then teaching and learning gets 607 00:17:05,261 --> 00:17:05,722 interrupted as well. 608 00:17:05,742 --> 00:17:06,482 It's compromised. 609 00:17:06,583 --> 00:17:07,463 So it's got to be both. 610 00:17:07,483 --> 00:17:08,785 You have to do both. 611 00:17:08,904 --> 00:17:09,665 Yeah, it's a balance. 612 00:17:09,826 --> 00:17:11,366 And I think you're right to say, OK, 613 00:17:11,446 --> 00:17:12,688 it looks like this from this perspective, 614 00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:13,669 and I'll say that from that perspective. 615 00:17:13,689 --> 00:17:15,009 I think just generally, 616 00:17:15,789 --> 00:17:18,192 and I think this is probably more of 617 00:17:18,231 --> 00:17:19,732 an issue for different universities and 618 00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:21,494 schools that are relying more heavily 619 00:17:21,535 --> 00:17:22,675 about outside integrators, 620 00:17:23,762 --> 00:17:25,682 understanding the impact for a design that 621 00:17:25,742 --> 00:17:27,364 is not your own on your abilities. 622 00:17:27,384 --> 00:17:29,023 You're walking right all over knowledge 623 00:17:29,044 --> 00:17:32,065 work to just swinging your arms around. 624 00:17:32,085 --> 00:17:34,845 I've been singing. 625 00:17:34,884 --> 00:17:36,726 Chris, what is one of yours, sir? 626 00:17:37,286 --> 00:17:37,506 I got it. 627 00:17:37,965 --> 00:17:38,445 So so far, 628 00:17:38,465 --> 00:17:40,286 I've marked off like four on my list 629 00:17:40,306 --> 00:17:41,646 that you just I'm just being efficient. 630 00:17:42,146 --> 00:17:42,626 Apparently, 631 00:17:42,646 --> 00:17:43,846 you just you want one commitment. 632 00:17:43,906 --> 00:17:44,567 Do what I say. 633 00:17:45,007 --> 00:17:46,428 This is one paragraph. 634 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:48,107 All right. 635 00:17:49,847 --> 00:17:50,169 Damacy, 636 00:17:50,189 --> 00:17:51,729 this one's what Larry talked about, too. 637 00:17:51,788 --> 00:17:52,429 I guess I'm gonna delete 638 00:17:52,528 --> 00:17:54,230 This one. 639 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:56,673 You can always steal one. 640 00:17:56,732 --> 00:17:57,593 Go to Justin's list. 641 00:17:57,633 --> 00:17:59,414 He has an infinite list there. 642 00:17:59,494 --> 00:18:00,395 I got a good list. 643 00:18:00,476 --> 00:18:01,596 I'm going for the one I know Mark 644 00:18:01,676 --> 00:18:02,217 don't do. 645 00:18:04,278 --> 00:18:04,538 I know. 646 00:18:04,618 --> 00:18:05,400 It's sitting right in front of me. 647 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,161 It's one of my options, 648 00:18:06,181 --> 00:18:07,261 and I'm bad at it, so go ahead. 649 00:18:08,068 --> 00:18:10,170 Thou shalt document everything. 650 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:10,710 Exactly. 651 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:12,390 That's the one. 652 00:18:12,430 --> 00:18:13,830 I'm looking right at it on my list. 653 00:18:13,851 --> 00:18:14,730 I was like, oh, I couldn't say that. 654 00:18:14,951 --> 00:18:16,411 Documentation loves uptime. 655 00:18:16,471 --> 00:18:17,932 Always save final signal flows, 656 00:18:17,971 --> 00:18:20,132 your IP schemes, your firmware versions, 657 00:18:20,152 --> 00:18:21,012 your as-builts. 658 00:18:22,133 --> 00:18:23,133 And so the note here, 659 00:18:23,192 --> 00:18:24,192 the note that I like, 660 00:18:24,212 --> 00:18:25,114 the way I phrased this was, 661 00:18:25,733 --> 00:18:28,434 if your documentation is go ask Steve, 662 00:18:30,474 --> 00:18:33,016 you're like one person leaving away from 663 00:18:33,056 --> 00:18:34,036 just utter chaos. 664 00:18:34,096 --> 00:18:36,616 Unless Steve is your AI bot, 665 00:18:36,636 --> 00:18:37,317 that may work. 666 00:18:38,797 --> 00:18:41,340 That's not what that means, and you know. 667 00:18:41,361 --> 00:18:42,262 Now, you raise a good point. 668 00:18:42,323 --> 00:18:43,724 If everything is properly documented, 669 00:18:43,744 --> 00:18:44,066 you have that, 670 00:18:44,165 --> 00:18:45,327 and the AI bot has access to it, 671 00:18:45,347 --> 00:18:45,768 and you can say, oh, 672 00:18:45,788 --> 00:18:46,750 go ask the Steve bot. 673 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:48,553 Maybe. 674 00:18:48,653 --> 00:18:49,354 I think we're all... 675 00:18:50,722 --> 00:18:53,544 guilty of not fully documenting i'm i'll 676 00:18:53,564 --> 00:18:55,644 tell you where my weak point is is 677 00:18:55,825 --> 00:18:58,605 as built going back and those tweaks you 678 00:18:58,625 --> 00:19:01,126 make during installation of going back and 679 00:19:01,346 --> 00:19:02,647 and updating my drawings for that it's 680 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,407 hard to find time to do that so 681 00:19:04,808 --> 00:19:08,109 here's the weird part yes i'm guilty of 682 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:10,010 not having documents for a thing but 683 00:19:11,152 --> 00:19:13,153 I also believe thou shall not waste time 684 00:19:13,232 --> 00:19:14,573 over documenting common things that 685 00:19:14,593 --> 00:19:15,773 everybody should be doing all the time 686 00:19:15,874 --> 00:19:16,153 anyway. 687 00:19:16,173 --> 00:19:16,594 I disagree with that. 688 00:19:16,634 --> 00:19:17,233 Yeah. 689 00:19:17,733 --> 00:19:18,034 I don't. 690 00:19:18,054 --> 00:19:19,694 I agree with Mark on that one. 691 00:19:19,755 --> 00:19:21,075 And so there are certain things of 692 00:19:21,134 --> 00:19:21,535 standards. 693 00:19:21,556 --> 00:19:23,476 What are common things that you didn't 694 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:23,635 know? 695 00:19:23,695 --> 00:19:25,017 If I'm going to build the same type 696 00:19:25,037 --> 00:19:26,876 of room over and over and over and 697 00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:27,457 over again, 698 00:19:27,597 --> 00:19:28,657 then it would be fully documented. 699 00:19:28,678 --> 00:19:30,598 The argument for that is, 700 00:19:30,818 --> 00:19:32,378 which I address in my class, 701 00:19:32,439 --> 00:19:33,680 if you want to take a class on 702 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:33,940 this. 703 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:34,839 And when is this class, Justin? 704 00:19:35,619 --> 00:19:36,119 first three days. 705 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,381 If I wanted to take this doc class, 706 00:19:37,421 --> 00:19:39,161 where would I sign up? 707 00:19:39,181 --> 00:19:41,061 You want to keep those things documented 708 00:19:41,122 --> 00:19:44,423 to some degree as a standard because in 709 00:19:44,522 --> 00:19:46,542 theory, you have new employees coming in, 710 00:19:46,583 --> 00:19:47,603 new student workers, 711 00:19:47,723 --> 00:19:50,683 and that information can transpose to 712 00:19:50,743 --> 00:19:53,845 other people more easily versus, well, 713 00:19:53,884 --> 00:19:54,424 I mean, 714 00:19:54,484 --> 00:19:56,205 ninety percent of our department knows how 715 00:19:56,226 --> 00:19:56,806 to do something. 716 00:19:56,885 --> 00:19:58,666 So, eh, F it. 717 00:19:58,787 --> 00:20:00,547 I'm not saying it doesn't exist in 718 00:20:00,586 --> 00:20:02,788 documentation, but at the same time, 719 00:20:02,847 --> 00:20:03,407 I'm not saying that 720 00:20:04,929 --> 00:20:06,930 we know what our general things are, 721 00:20:07,431 --> 00:20:07,651 right? 722 00:20:08,191 --> 00:20:09,711 Saying we cannot move forward until we 723 00:20:10,112 --> 00:20:11,472 have this exactly spelled out to be the 724 00:20:11,512 --> 00:20:12,594 same thing we've done over and over and 725 00:20:12,614 --> 00:20:14,095 over again. 726 00:20:14,134 --> 00:20:14,355 Okay. 727 00:20:14,835 --> 00:20:15,096 Yeah. 728 00:20:15,115 --> 00:20:16,476 I don't agree with keeping that as a 729 00:20:16,536 --> 00:20:18,317 gatekeeper for not doing something like an 730 00:20:18,377 --> 00:20:19,557 excuse, but like, 731 00:20:20,058 --> 00:20:21,640 like you should be working towards 732 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:23,240 documenting everything if you don't like, 733 00:20:23,621 --> 00:20:25,142 I think the general consensus is we want 734 00:20:25,162 --> 00:20:26,321 to document as much as we can. 735 00:20:26,402 --> 00:20:29,123 And I'll just say, Mark hates schematics. 736 00:20:29,143 --> 00:20:30,403 No, I don't. 737 00:20:30,544 --> 00:20:32,003 Yes, you do. 738 00:20:32,523 --> 00:20:33,285 With a passion. 739 00:20:33,305 --> 00:20:33,664 No, come on. 740 00:20:33,684 --> 00:20:36,326 You're talking about... I love to hate it. 741 00:20:36,346 --> 00:20:37,086 That's not design. 742 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:37,885 That's not what that is. 743 00:20:37,905 --> 00:20:38,106 No, no, no. 744 00:20:38,346 --> 00:20:38,967 That's just documentation. 745 00:20:39,027 --> 00:20:41,607 I know that you get to systems where 746 00:20:41,627 --> 00:20:42,667 you have to and you're like, 747 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:43,808 I know this has to be done, 748 00:20:43,828 --> 00:20:44,169 but man, 749 00:20:44,209 --> 00:20:45,970 I really don't want to do this shit. 750 00:20:46,089 --> 00:20:46,470 I don't think... 751 00:20:46,509 --> 00:20:47,609 I don't necessarily hate them. 752 00:20:48,109 --> 00:20:49,590 I hate the process of having to sit 753 00:20:49,631 --> 00:20:51,551 down and commit gobs and gobs of hours 754 00:20:51,571 --> 00:20:52,332 to doing things that 755 00:20:54,076 --> 00:20:54,615 Is it part of the, 756 00:20:54,655 --> 00:20:55,195 do we need them? 757 00:20:55,276 --> 00:20:55,576 Yes. 758 00:20:55,876 --> 00:20:56,957 Do I like to have that identity of 759 00:20:56,997 --> 00:20:57,636 having to do them all? 760 00:20:57,797 --> 00:20:57,896 No. 761 00:20:57,916 --> 00:21:00,877 Yeah, I'm with Mark on that. 762 00:21:02,098 --> 00:21:03,459 I mean, it's just like doing taxes. 763 00:21:03,618 --> 00:21:04,720 Do you want to do taxes all the 764 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:04,960 time? 765 00:21:05,539 --> 00:21:06,279 I love doing taxes. 766 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:07,800 You just don't. 767 00:21:07,861 --> 00:21:08,040 Right. 768 00:21:09,842 --> 00:21:10,862 All right, Justin, 769 00:21:10,882 --> 00:21:11,541 what's next on your list? 770 00:21:13,042 --> 00:21:15,263 Thou shall abide by all five X safety 771 00:21:15,304 --> 00:21:15,824 factors. 772 00:21:16,223 --> 00:21:18,444 So I'm tired of people hanging shit. 773 00:21:19,621 --> 00:21:20,862 with stupid things. 774 00:21:20,882 --> 00:21:23,702 The toggles on the box says two hundred 775 00:21:23,762 --> 00:21:24,163 pounds. 776 00:21:24,564 --> 00:21:26,104 Drywall screws are just fine. 777 00:21:26,585 --> 00:21:29,605 And part of this is, you know, 778 00:21:29,726 --> 00:21:32,188 and I guess I have nine commandments here, 779 00:21:32,228 --> 00:21:35,689 but one of them is bow shall support 780 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:37,230 drop ceiling speakers independently of the 781 00:21:37,269 --> 00:21:37,750 ceiling grid. 782 00:21:37,809 --> 00:21:39,631 I'm sick and tired of looking at new 783 00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:40,612 ceilings that are 784 00:21:41,251 --> 00:21:43,373 concave like what the hell y'all doing 785 00:21:43,692 --> 00:21:45,673 it's a good to reflect better my business 786 00:21:45,753 --> 00:21:47,714 we bid on something and then i go 787 00:21:47,755 --> 00:21:50,035 back and look at some asshole that didn't 788 00:21:50,055 --> 00:21:53,017 do any safety factor stuff that i bid 789 00:21:53,156 --> 00:21:56,178 in my job that increased cost that like 790 00:21:56,218 --> 00:21:58,179 you can't get away with that like why 791 00:21:58,239 --> 00:21:59,739 are you talking about the integrators who 792 00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:01,200 did work on my campus before i got 793 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,340 here because that's me it's infuriating to 794 00:22:04,401 --> 00:22:06,922 me it's it's it's a bad 795 00:22:07,102 --> 00:22:08,063 Did you guys ever go into a room 796 00:22:08,083 --> 00:22:09,784 and find a projector on the grid and 797 00:22:09,804 --> 00:22:11,025 the whole ceiling's like leaning down 798 00:22:11,085 --> 00:22:11,465 towards it? 799 00:22:11,705 --> 00:22:12,006 Yeah. 800 00:22:13,867 --> 00:22:14,067 It's like, 801 00:22:14,107 --> 00:22:15,328 how did you get away with that? 802 00:22:15,409 --> 00:22:16,890 How's the building inspector... Like, 803 00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:19,832 how's the client not worried about killing 804 00:22:19,872 --> 00:22:20,173 people? 805 00:22:20,553 --> 00:22:21,232 I'm interested. 806 00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:24,375 Is that in your scope to check? 807 00:22:25,876 --> 00:22:27,298 It's... Hell yeah. 808 00:22:27,317 --> 00:22:28,519 I mean, if you were designing it, 809 00:22:28,538 --> 00:22:29,160 but if you were to like... 810 00:22:30,441 --> 00:22:31,622 have something handed off. 811 00:22:32,682 --> 00:22:34,222 This becomes like a whole project process. 812 00:22:34,282 --> 00:22:36,084 If you walked into a space, 813 00:22:36,104 --> 00:22:37,625 let's just assume that you found out that 814 00:22:37,664 --> 00:22:39,567 a newly furnished building- Like College 815 00:22:39,586 --> 00:22:40,626 of Business, for instance? 816 00:22:40,646 --> 00:22:41,126 Whatever it is, 817 00:22:41,146 --> 00:22:44,529 whatever new college building du jour, 818 00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:45,990 if you walked in, 819 00:22:47,151 --> 00:22:48,932 would you take ownership on remediating 820 00:22:48,951 --> 00:22:49,132 that? 821 00:22:49,251 --> 00:22:49,873 Or would you say, nope, 822 00:22:49,932 --> 00:22:51,554 if you touch it legally- We're talking 823 00:22:51,594 --> 00:22:51,894 about it. 824 00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:54,234 I'm going to walk over to that building 825 00:22:54,255 --> 00:22:54,756 with a ladder, 826 00:22:54,776 --> 00:22:56,176 and my first thing I'm doing is popping 827 00:22:56,217 --> 00:22:57,656 my head above that ceiling going, 828 00:22:58,518 --> 00:22:59,798 this shit's got to get fixed, 829 00:22:59,818 --> 00:23:00,159 all of it. 830 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,282 And that's part of us owning that system 831 00:23:06,784 --> 00:23:08,785 and being accountable for that system. 832 00:23:09,224 --> 00:23:11,205 If I'm not doing my due diligence, 833 00:23:11,846 --> 00:23:13,428 if I take over a system and I 834 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:16,108 know the integrators are doing a subpar 835 00:23:16,148 --> 00:23:16,470 job, 836 00:23:17,801 --> 00:23:19,222 I'm going to have a commitment that I 837 00:23:19,242 --> 00:23:20,423 want to go right after you on this 838 00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:21,262 one when we're all said and done. 839 00:23:21,282 --> 00:23:22,023 Okay. 840 00:23:22,644 --> 00:23:24,325 But there's no way I'm trusting that 841 00:23:24,684 --> 00:23:26,045 person to do their job right. 842 00:23:26,365 --> 00:23:27,726 And so I've got to check off on 843 00:23:27,766 --> 00:23:28,365 all that shit. 844 00:23:28,865 --> 00:23:30,567 This might be a dovetailing on that one 845 00:23:30,606 --> 00:23:32,928 or maybe the same thing. 846 00:23:32,988 --> 00:23:35,729 But thou shall not let business process 847 00:23:35,769 --> 00:23:37,150 get in the way of doing what is 848 00:23:37,210 --> 00:23:37,650 correct. 849 00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:45,200 example if your general identity for the 850 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,240 organization which you work for is av and 851 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:50,321 there's an av problem thou shalt remediate 852 00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:52,282 that problem not wait for some legal 853 00:23:52,323 --> 00:23:54,222 definition as to when you can or cannot 854 00:23:54,262 --> 00:23:57,825 do it you're gonna have to i'm not 855 00:23:57,845 --> 00:24:00,424 sure what's the scenario on this you all 856 00:24:00,444 --> 00:24:01,385 know what's right and wrong something's 857 00:24:01,405 --> 00:24:02,746 broken if you get to a point you 858 00:24:02,766 --> 00:24:04,446 say oh well we didn't install it somebody 859 00:24:04,507 --> 00:24:04,906 else did 860 00:24:06,108 --> 00:24:07,549 and there's a class at risk because it's 861 00:24:07,609 --> 00:24:08,090 not working, 862 00:24:08,731 --> 00:24:10,633 go in there and try to fix it. 863 00:24:10,653 --> 00:24:11,513 We can't do it. 864 00:24:11,673 --> 00:24:12,434 Is that a thing? 865 00:24:12,894 --> 00:24:14,217 Yeah, we're not doing it. 866 00:24:15,592 --> 00:24:17,073 The project's not even done. 867 00:24:17,113 --> 00:24:20,234 It's not even signed off on at all. 868 00:24:20,414 --> 00:24:23,135 If there are classes in there on behalf 869 00:24:23,256 --> 00:24:25,576 of the university and it is not generally 870 00:24:25,696 --> 00:24:27,478 able to go in there and fix it, 871 00:24:27,577 --> 00:24:28,159 it's still under contract. 872 00:24:28,179 --> 00:24:29,859 It's been not done for a year. 873 00:24:30,259 --> 00:24:31,421 Like at some point. 874 00:24:32,020 --> 00:24:33,521 Who's signing off on it? 875 00:24:34,142 --> 00:24:35,063 I wasn't going to do this one. 876 00:24:35,083 --> 00:24:35,982 I had a note to it. 877 00:24:36,002 --> 00:24:36,282 I was like, 878 00:24:36,303 --> 00:24:37,304 I'm going to just say it anyway. 879 00:24:37,324 --> 00:24:41,026 The university as a whole is not allowing 880 00:24:41,125 --> 00:24:42,727 us to go in there to work on 881 00:24:42,787 --> 00:24:43,166 anything. 882 00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:48,701 I still believe in the best interest of 883 00:24:48,721 --> 00:24:50,903 the organization that you go remediate 884 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:51,103 that. 885 00:24:51,923 --> 00:24:53,965 Successful learning outcomes would dictate 886 00:24:53,986 --> 00:24:54,486 that you go fix it. 887 00:24:54,506 --> 00:24:55,527 With what time and what money. 888 00:24:56,248 --> 00:24:58,750 And our schedule's already full. 889 00:24:59,111 --> 00:25:00,132 When you win. 890 00:25:02,413 --> 00:25:02,713 Right now. 891 00:25:02,733 --> 00:25:04,836 Stop the documentation and go fix it. 892 00:25:05,656 --> 00:25:08,117 get in there we didn't put it in 893 00:25:08,278 --> 00:25:10,338 we don't have any schematics we don't have 894 00:25:10,439 --> 00:25:12,660 any passwords we have no ip addresses we 895 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,920 have we haven't even set foot in the 896 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,402 building yet okay pause there would you 897 00:25:18,442 --> 00:25:19,442 know what you need to do if you 898 00:25:19,501 --> 00:25:22,903 were going to go in there yeah and 899 00:25:22,923 --> 00:25:24,263 what the fuck are you waiting for go 900 00:25:24,284 --> 00:25:27,444 get it done time time you know it's 901 00:25:27,464 --> 00:25:29,546 gonna it's gonna take a week to fix 902 00:25:29,685 --> 00:25:30,346 one room mark 903 00:25:33,349 --> 00:25:34,230 I'm thinking about this. 904 00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:35,852 When you do that, 905 00:25:35,932 --> 00:25:37,492 when classes are going on, Mark, 906 00:25:38,413 --> 00:25:41,876 a week to fix the breaks between classes. 907 00:25:42,037 --> 00:25:43,397 We just had winter break, dude. 908 00:25:43,417 --> 00:25:44,358 That was several weeks. 909 00:25:44,858 --> 00:25:46,240 You can make substantial progress in ten 910 00:25:46,259 --> 00:25:46,539 minutes. 911 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:48,541 We were already booked on other projects 912 00:25:48,582 --> 00:25:52,045 over other EDU classes. 913 00:25:53,244 --> 00:25:53,385 Okay. 914 00:25:53,986 --> 00:25:54,886 I only wanted to get in there because 915 00:25:54,906 --> 00:25:56,268 it was a good opportunity to do so. 916 00:25:56,627 --> 00:25:57,709 It was a good opportunity. 917 00:25:58,589 --> 00:26:00,330 I mean, I just don't understand. 918 00:26:00,570 --> 00:26:01,471 Larry, what's another one for me? 919 00:26:02,045 --> 00:26:02,325 Well, 920 00:26:02,384 --> 00:26:04,946 you stole my last one on my list, 921 00:26:05,067 --> 00:26:06,828 so I was going to steal one on 922 00:26:06,888 --> 00:26:08,349 Chris's list that's really good, 923 00:26:08,369 --> 00:26:09,730 but I'll let him keep it. 924 00:26:09,871 --> 00:26:11,272 I misread yours here and thought it was 925 00:26:11,333 --> 00:26:12,534 way more interesting, but okay, go ahead. 926 00:26:12,554 --> 00:26:12,733 Wait, what? 927 00:26:12,773 --> 00:26:16,477 That was insulting. 928 00:26:16,497 --> 00:26:17,538 I'm going to just say I thought the 929 00:26:17,577 --> 00:26:19,378 word was furniture when I was scrolling 930 00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:19,778 past. 931 00:26:19,798 --> 00:26:20,259 Oh, okay. 932 00:26:22,048 --> 00:26:24,088 So rather than steal Chris's... 933 00:26:24,869 --> 00:26:26,030 You can steal from my list. 934 00:26:26,671 --> 00:26:27,511 I can steal from your list? 935 00:26:27,531 --> 00:26:28,711 Because I really like the four K, 936 00:26:28,751 --> 00:26:30,313 five K, eight K nonsense. 937 00:26:30,333 --> 00:26:31,933 Okay, that's fine. 938 00:26:31,953 --> 00:26:32,954 Okay, I'm going to steal that one then, 939 00:26:32,974 --> 00:26:33,976 because I really like it. 940 00:26:34,536 --> 00:26:37,117 Thou shall not chase resolution idols. 941 00:26:39,403 --> 00:26:40,503 Nobody can see it anyway. 942 00:26:40,523 --> 00:26:41,285 It doesn't matter. 943 00:26:41,444 --> 00:26:43,346 Like do not put four K, five K, 944 00:26:43,486 --> 00:26:46,588 eight K anywhere outside of very, 945 00:26:46,608 --> 00:26:48,631 very unique applications. 946 00:26:48,671 --> 00:26:48,911 Yes. 947 00:26:48,971 --> 00:26:49,872 If you're in an igloo. 948 00:26:49,932 --> 00:26:50,192 Yes. 949 00:26:50,231 --> 00:26:51,972 If you're touching the wall. 950 00:26:52,574 --> 00:26:53,615 Yes, yes, yes. 951 00:26:53,674 --> 00:26:54,776 But outside of that, 952 00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:58,298 ten ADP is the max everywhere. 953 00:26:58,338 --> 00:26:59,900 Seven twenty all day. 954 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,861 Yeah. 955 00:27:00,901 --> 00:27:01,781 Do I hear four eighty? 956 00:27:02,342 --> 00:27:04,864 I'd go four ADP black burst rumors that 957 00:27:04,884 --> 00:27:05,384 are four eighty. 958 00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:07,873 Otherwise, you're just wasting money. 959 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:11,398 NTSC gets it done. 960 00:27:11,638 --> 00:27:12,922 By the way, Larry, 961 00:27:13,061 --> 00:27:15,265 I think that's the reason why they're not 962 00:27:15,305 --> 00:27:18,269 done yet is for K. 963 00:27:18,349 --> 00:27:19,511 It would not surprise me. 964 00:27:19,913 --> 00:27:20,473 For K for K. 965 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:25,213 seat yeah i'm not what's that mean justin 966 00:27:25,253 --> 00:27:26,733 they're not done yet because of four k 967 00:27:28,054 --> 00:27:29,374 are they waiting are there support i'm 968 00:27:29,394 --> 00:27:30,954 going to cost them four thousand dollars 969 00:27:31,015 --> 00:27:32,595 per room they did not have a very 970 00:27:33,434 --> 00:27:35,095 they did not have a very well thought 971 00:27:35,134 --> 00:27:37,695 through edid plan with all the devices and 972 00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:42,155 things they had to configure and so 973 00:27:42,175 --> 00:27:44,457 they're forcing four k through a ten 974 00:27:44,497 --> 00:27:45,876 eighty monitor and they're wondering why 975 00:27:45,896 --> 00:27:47,757 it's not working where did you guys find 976 00:27:47,817 --> 00:27:49,637 it if you know this why don't you 977 00:27:49,678 --> 00:27:50,917 tell them and get it fixed 978 00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:52,914 We have. 979 00:27:53,276 --> 00:27:53,836 We told them. 980 00:27:54,117 --> 00:27:55,721 They're asking us, and we told them, 981 00:27:56,182 --> 00:27:56,663 and they're like, 982 00:27:56,904 --> 00:27:58,828 we put in Crestron and fixed it. 983 00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:00,473 I'm like, yeah, you put in scalers. 984 00:28:01,823 --> 00:28:03,683 We don't put in scalers like that should 985 00:28:03,703 --> 00:28:04,963 be the eleventh commandment. 986 00:28:05,064 --> 00:28:05,943 Thou shall not actually, 987 00:28:05,964 --> 00:28:08,105 that's a good point that putting, 988 00:28:08,244 --> 00:28:10,185 putting a hardware scaler at the end of 989 00:28:10,205 --> 00:28:11,666 your signal chain does not fix your 990 00:28:11,727 --> 00:28:13,346 inability to set up an eat chain. 991 00:28:13,767 --> 00:28:13,926 No. 992 00:28:14,007 --> 00:28:15,748 And that's exactly what this integrator 993 00:28:15,788 --> 00:28:16,407 did and said, 994 00:28:16,448 --> 00:28:17,949 we should have used Crestron instead. 995 00:28:17,969 --> 00:28:21,130 I'm like use their use Crestron's D ten 996 00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:22,410 and E ten series. 997 00:28:22,430 --> 00:28:24,250 And let's see what the hell happens until 998 00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:24,810 you need to, you're not, 999 00:28:25,050 --> 00:28:26,531 now you're not doing apples and apples 1000 00:28:26,571 --> 00:28:26,731 here. 1001 00:28:28,131 --> 00:28:29,751 So that's a whole other thing. 1002 00:28:29,771 --> 00:28:31,512 Now shall not use scalers is my limit. 1003 00:28:31,532 --> 00:28:31,952 That is a good one. 1004 00:28:31,992 --> 00:28:32,574 I like that one. 1005 00:28:32,594 --> 00:28:33,213 I like that one. 1006 00:28:33,233 --> 00:28:34,414 That one's better than... Chris, 1007 00:28:34,454 --> 00:28:34,815 what did you get? 1008 00:28:34,974 --> 00:28:36,435 By the way, so I, 1009 00:28:37,076 --> 00:28:38,317 as you all know, inherited a campus. 1010 00:28:38,696 --> 00:28:40,298 Many, many, many, many, many, many, many, 1011 00:28:40,317 --> 00:28:44,000 many, many RMC scalers out there. 1012 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,761 I did find a room that had a 1013 00:28:47,363 --> 00:28:49,263 seven-twenty P and ten-eighty I capable 1014 00:28:49,284 --> 00:28:51,684 cameras, the older PTZ cameras, 1015 00:28:52,125 --> 00:28:52,846 ten-eighty I. 1016 00:28:54,246 --> 00:28:56,446 which is the one place so far you 1017 00:28:56,467 --> 00:28:58,268 could legitimately say I want a hardware 1018 00:28:58,327 --> 00:29:00,808 scaler there, and it didn't happen. 1019 00:29:00,848 --> 00:29:04,050 So, we'll see. 1020 00:29:04,111 --> 00:29:04,510 Thanks, guys. 1021 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:05,250 Anyway, can I read one? 1022 00:29:05,291 --> 00:29:06,092 No, I haven't gotten mine yet. 1023 00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:08,333 It's going to get a bunch of extra 1024 00:29:08,373 --> 00:29:08,932 credit ones in here. 1025 00:29:08,952 --> 00:29:09,473 Let's see. 1026 00:29:09,973 --> 00:29:11,734 Where's the one I was trying to find? 1027 00:29:14,518 --> 00:29:20,422 Ah, thou shalt protect audio above all. 1028 00:29:20,442 --> 00:29:21,903 You can make do with bad video. 1029 00:29:21,942 --> 00:29:22,544 Video forgives. 1030 00:29:22,564 --> 00:29:24,505 I just have a heart attack right now. 1031 00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:26,066 Video forgives, audio does not. 1032 00:29:26,205 --> 00:29:27,787 Bad lighting can be annoying, 1033 00:29:28,047 --> 00:29:29,989 but bad audio is fatal. 1034 00:29:30,868 --> 00:29:32,869 uh if you have to choose you sound 1035 00:29:33,529 --> 00:29:35,631 over an awesome picture is this that's 1036 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:37,791 primarily in like teaching and learning is 1037 00:29:37,811 --> 00:29:40,071 this like specifically geared towards like 1038 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:44,493 collaboration and conferencing yes yes so 1039 00:29:44,614 --> 00:29:46,234 i i agree with that but come on 1040 00:29:46,275 --> 00:29:47,855 chris that's such a little hanging fruit 1041 00:29:47,994 --> 00:29:50,935 okay you want to know that's like saying 1042 00:29:50,976 --> 00:29:52,096 the a is relevant in a and b 1043 00:29:52,676 --> 00:29:53,720 Okay, wait, I got one for Mark. 1044 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:54,381 Here's one for Mark. 1045 00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:54,781 How about this? 1046 00:29:54,821 --> 00:29:55,683 I'll sneak another one in here. 1047 00:29:55,703 --> 00:29:56,605 Go for it. 1048 00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:57,607 Because that last one was so bad it 1049 00:29:57,627 --> 00:29:58,048 didn't count. 1050 00:29:58,229 --> 00:29:59,291 It was good. 1051 00:29:59,392 --> 00:30:00,714 I liked it. 1052 00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:03,320 Thou shalt avoid over-automation. 1053 00:30:05,674 --> 00:30:08,196 Just because you can auto-switch, 1054 00:30:08,336 --> 00:30:09,636 auto-mix, auto-sense, 1055 00:30:09,777 --> 00:30:12,597 auto-track your cameras, auto-detect, 1056 00:30:13,578 --> 00:30:14,398 motion-sensor lights, 1057 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,119 doesn't mean you should. 1058 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:17,901 Complexity increases support. 1059 00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:19,961 Larry brought up complexity increases 1060 00:30:20,021 --> 00:30:20,922 cognitive load. 1061 00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:23,103 And sometimes, this is just for Mark, 1062 00:30:23,282 --> 00:30:26,325 sometimes the best control system is fewer 1063 00:30:26,365 --> 00:30:27,805 decisions. 1064 00:30:27,825 --> 00:30:29,026 That's exactly what I'm doing. 1065 00:30:30,063 --> 00:30:31,483 But I read all that, like, 1066 00:30:31,663 --> 00:30:36,565 continue to do my automated system. 1067 00:30:36,605 --> 00:30:39,807 But sometimes because of their screen on 1068 00:30:39,846 --> 00:30:41,527 the display, so like, 1069 00:30:41,586 --> 00:30:42,688 there's a happy medium there. 1070 00:30:43,008 --> 00:30:43,107 Yeah, 1071 00:30:43,127 --> 00:30:44,667 but it's only for certain types of spaces, 1072 00:30:44,708 --> 00:30:44,847 right? 1073 00:30:44,928 --> 00:30:46,068 Okay, Justin, now get us right. 1074 00:30:46,828 --> 00:30:47,648 You want me to do some more? 1075 00:30:48,190 --> 00:30:48,309 Yeah, 1076 00:30:48,509 --> 00:30:49,970 do one of them that you don't follow 1077 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:50,730 track of where we are. 1078 00:30:51,691 --> 00:30:54,991 Let's like thou shalt remodel, 1079 00:30:55,892 --> 00:30:56,593 read manuals. 1080 00:30:56,932 --> 00:30:57,613 I know you don't do that. 1081 00:31:00,675 --> 00:31:02,096 Nobody reads the manuals. 1082 00:31:03,237 --> 00:31:04,137 What the hell do you think I'm... 1083 00:31:05,798 --> 00:31:06,939 I'll get number five, Justin. 1084 00:31:06,959 --> 00:31:08,579 Go there. 1085 00:31:08,619 --> 00:31:10,339 Thou shalt not use a touch panel when 1086 00:31:10,361 --> 00:31:11,580 a button panel will suffice. 1087 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:12,821 Agreed. 1088 00:31:12,882 --> 00:31:14,541 And I kind of want to hit comma 1089 00:31:15,282 --> 00:31:16,863 and also say don't use a button panel 1090 00:31:16,883 --> 00:31:18,304 when nothing will suffice because I've 1091 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:20,065 done a few rooms that don't have an 1092 00:31:20,085 --> 00:31:20,525 interface. 1093 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:21,826 What if it was automated? 1094 00:31:22,925 --> 00:31:23,526 You walked in, plugged in, 1095 00:31:23,546 --> 00:31:24,027 and it just worked? 1096 00:31:24,126 --> 00:31:25,007 What if you walked in and you just 1097 00:31:25,027 --> 00:31:26,288 have to wave your arms and things just 1098 00:31:26,327 --> 00:31:26,607 happen? 1099 00:31:27,087 --> 00:31:27,488 Yeah. 1100 00:31:27,508 --> 00:31:29,009 Or say, monitor on. 1101 00:31:32,141 --> 00:31:33,041 What if you just stayed home and just 1102 00:31:33,061 --> 00:31:34,403 joined remotely? 1103 00:31:34,423 --> 00:31:35,825 Plug and play to tech stuff. 1104 00:31:35,884 --> 00:31:36,685 Pretty simple. 1105 00:31:36,945 --> 00:31:41,490 It's all wireless now. 1106 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:41,750 Let's see. 1107 00:31:41,770 --> 00:31:43,752 Dallas will not use chassis-based matrix 1108 00:31:43,792 --> 00:31:44,032 switches. 1109 00:31:44,502 --> 00:31:45,523 Oh, there we go. 1110 00:31:46,084 --> 00:31:48,445 Except for if you're going to use stacked, 1111 00:31:48,705 --> 00:31:49,906 sixteen or above more. 1112 00:31:50,207 --> 00:31:52,009 It has to be matrix into matrix with 1113 00:31:52,048 --> 00:31:52,669 sixteen by. 1114 00:31:53,549 --> 00:31:55,050 But you're running four outputs in your 1115 00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:56,271 quad box and your quad boxes? 1116 00:31:58,233 --> 00:31:58,733 Yeah, yeah. 1117 00:31:58,854 --> 00:32:00,214 I want to see all of those. 1118 00:32:00,315 --> 00:32:03,217 If you're going to do it, go bold. 1119 00:32:03,237 --> 00:32:05,419 Thou shalt abide by audio coverage 1120 00:32:05,479 --> 00:32:07,701 uniformity standards. 1121 00:32:07,721 --> 00:32:10,502 It's an easy one. 1122 00:32:10,563 --> 00:32:11,963 Okay. 1123 00:32:12,525 --> 00:32:13,164 Read the next one. 1124 00:32:13,404 --> 00:32:14,066 Read the next one. 1125 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:16,721 Thou shall abide by discus. 1126 00:32:17,942 --> 00:32:20,042 Now I will say that sometimes I can't 1127 00:32:20,083 --> 00:32:20,844 abide by this. 1128 00:32:20,864 --> 00:32:21,044 Exactly. 1129 00:32:22,464 --> 00:32:23,685 Based upon skilling heights. 1130 00:32:24,707 --> 00:32:25,967 But it's well communicated. 1131 00:32:26,728 --> 00:32:27,448 But I always, 1132 00:32:28,108 --> 00:32:30,109 it's number two on my list right after 1133 00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:32,071 audio coverage uniformity in my designs. 1134 00:32:32,612 --> 00:32:33,732 So could we use all of these to 1135 00:32:33,772 --> 00:32:35,153 design the ultimate worst room? 1136 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:36,674 Really quick here. 1137 00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:39,597 We got multi-display USB extension, 1138 00:32:39,798 --> 00:32:42,180 eight K three foot tall images. 1139 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:44,962 Could we make the worst scenario room 1140 00:32:45,083 --> 00:32:45,202 ever? 1141 00:32:45,222 --> 00:32:48,905 That would, I got, 1142 00:32:48,945 --> 00:32:49,987 I got one of my list just for 1143 00:32:50,027 --> 00:32:50,548 Justin here. 1144 00:32:50,968 --> 00:32:51,209 What is it? 1145 00:32:51,229 --> 00:32:53,069 He's going to love this one. 1146 00:32:53,089 --> 00:32:55,251 Thou shalt not let vendors design nice 1147 00:32:55,291 --> 00:32:55,752 strategy. 1148 00:32:58,538 --> 00:32:59,239 I agree with that. 1149 00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:02,000 Because vendors will design and build 1150 00:33:02,019 --> 00:33:02,640 projects. 1151 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:03,759 Those are big words. 1152 00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:04,500 Okay, well, 1153 00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:06,421 so vendors will design and build projects. 1154 00:33:07,181 --> 00:33:08,842 You're interested in systems and 1155 00:33:08,882 --> 00:33:09,701 standards. 1156 00:33:09,842 --> 00:33:12,282 So they'll come in and do their own 1157 00:33:12,323 --> 00:33:14,163 thing that's not aligned with either of 1158 00:33:14,182 --> 00:33:14,482 those, 1159 00:33:14,542 --> 00:33:16,763 and they get their check and they peace 1160 00:33:16,844 --> 00:33:17,084 out. 1161 00:33:17,923 --> 00:33:19,423 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I agree with that. 1162 00:33:19,503 --> 00:33:19,984 How many did we get? 1163 00:33:20,045 --> 00:33:21,105 I don't know. 1164 00:33:21,125 --> 00:33:23,005 We're like in the twenty-seven range. 1165 00:33:23,025 --> 00:33:23,766 Yeah, at this point. 1166 00:33:23,826 --> 00:33:25,306 Thou shalt use sixteen by nine. 1167 00:33:26,593 --> 00:33:27,734 I think that's just a legal requirement 1168 00:33:27,775 --> 00:33:27,994 these days. 1169 00:33:28,375 --> 00:33:30,278 Yeah. 1170 00:33:30,298 --> 00:33:31,539 There's not really any other options. 1171 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:35,445 How shall we label cables? 1172 00:33:35,465 --> 00:33:37,167 I think I'm including all the eleven 1173 00:33:37,208 --> 00:33:38,009 commandments that I had. 1174 00:33:38,029 --> 00:33:38,170 Yeah. 1175 00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:40,192 I think you got it. 1176 00:33:41,142 --> 00:33:42,603 um yeah i have the label cables thing 1177 00:33:42,722 --> 00:33:44,923 on here as well um if you just 1178 00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:46,144 might note that like you don't know what 1179 00:33:46,285 --> 00:33:48,926 hdmi three is a year from now so 1180 00:33:48,987 --> 00:33:50,347 labeling that with a human readable but 1181 00:33:50,367 --> 00:33:51,488 i'm pretty sure it's not going to be 1182 00:33:51,587 --> 00:33:53,409 analog audio it's probably going to be 1183 00:33:53,449 --> 00:33:54,869 something to do with video so at least 1184 00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:56,951 you know my favorite is when you see 1185 00:33:56,971 --> 00:33:58,211 the handwritten labels with a question 1186 00:33:58,231 --> 00:33:58,372 mark 1187 00:34:00,153 --> 00:34:02,314 this is probably this question no it says 1188 00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:03,855 it says confidence monitor question mark 1189 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:07,257 you're like what what's supposed to do you 1190 00:34:07,277 --> 00:34:11,018 feel confident about this no uh does 1191 00:34:11,059 --> 00:34:12,300 anybody else have one that they want to 1192 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,679 bring up because otherwise we'll wrap up 1193 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,800 and roll out here i have one i'm 1194 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:15,740 going to mention here at the end but 1195 00:34:15,782 --> 00:34:17,943 it's it's a it's one i i violate 1196 00:34:18,063 --> 00:34:20,523 all the freaking time but what is it 1197 00:34:21,485 --> 00:34:23,746 thou shalt test with real content 1198 00:34:25,047 --> 00:34:28,070 a laptop your laptop with a default 1199 00:34:28,269 --> 00:34:31,612 windows background is not a test of an 1200 00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:33,014 appropriate test for your your video 1201 00:34:33,054 --> 00:34:39,320 systems no i don't know oh we're all 1202 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,782 guilty of that one the whole nine thousand 1203 00:34:40,802 --> 00:34:45,286 spec check it off over document it yeah 1204 00:34:45,367 --> 00:34:47,088 every room forget this out what size it 1205 00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:47,228 is 1206 00:34:49,112 --> 00:34:51,175 Okay. 1207 00:34:51,195 --> 00:34:51,936 Well, any last minute things? 1208 00:34:52,456 --> 00:34:53,257 A network-based one, 1209 00:34:53,277 --> 00:34:54,197 but I don't know if it's really relevant 1210 00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:54,478 or not. 1211 00:34:54,717 --> 00:34:55,599 The network is part of your... 1212 00:34:55,858 --> 00:34:57,179 I have one about life cycle, but... 1213 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,420 I have a life cycle one as well. 1214 00:34:58,782 --> 00:34:59,481 Design for life cycle. 1215 00:34:59,862 --> 00:35:00,202 Thou shalt. 1216 00:35:03,686 --> 00:35:05,027 Thou shalt appropriately commission before 1217 00:35:05,047 --> 00:35:05,728 declaring victory. 1218 00:35:05,768 --> 00:35:06,309 That's a good one. 1219 00:35:09,054 --> 00:35:10,114 All right, well, 1220 00:35:10,135 --> 00:35:11,315 I think we get the gist of it. 1221 00:35:11,376 --> 00:35:12,637 All right, well, there's your, 1222 00:35:13,237 --> 00:35:14,117 I don't know how many that was. 1223 00:35:14,137 --> 00:35:14,719 That's a lot. 1224 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:17,581 There was probably like seventeen in 1225 00:35:17,621 --> 00:35:18,961 there. 1226 00:35:19,041 --> 00:35:20,702 Or eighteen commandments. 1227 00:35:21,123 --> 00:35:22,824 The things you got to do maybe most 1228 00:35:22,844 --> 00:35:23,324 of the time, 1229 00:35:23,766 --> 00:35:24,885 unless you knowingly violate them, 1230 00:35:24,927 --> 00:35:25,467 which we all do. 1231 00:35:25,487 --> 00:35:26,967 Yeah, if you want. 1232 00:35:27,588 --> 00:35:28,909 If you feel like it this week. 1233 00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:30,311 All right, any last thoughts? 1234 00:35:30,811 --> 00:35:32,793 nope maybe all right well safety is 1235 00:35:32,833 --> 00:35:34,474 important be safe out there good point 1236 00:35:34,514 --> 00:35:39,840 safety third safety third after lunch all 1237 00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:42,501 right okay well do this and we'll uh 1238 00:35:42,521 --> 00:35:43,643 we'll come back we'll be back next month 1239 00:35:43,663 --> 00:35:44,884 with more stuff uh head over to 1240 00:35:44,943 --> 00:35:47,567 avsuperfriends.com for uh more shows of 1241 00:35:47,586 --> 00:35:48,306 this type of discussion 1242 00:35:52,563 --> 00:35:54,224 with yet another episode of AV 1243 00:35:54,244 --> 00:35:55,465 Superfriends On Topic. 1244 00:35:55,846 --> 00:35:57,327 You can contact us with questions, 1245 00:35:57,387 --> 00:35:58,088 topic ideas, 1246 00:35:58,168 --> 00:35:59,188 or general complaints at 1247 00:35:59,329 --> 00:36:08,235 avsuperfriends.com. 1248 00:36:08,255 --> 00:36:09,036 Nice work, everyone. 1249 00:36:09,998 --> 00:36:10,878 Sharp broadcast. 1250 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,659 Really good. 1251 00:36:11,918 --> 00:36:12,980 Everyone on the floor as well. 1252 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,661 Really a lot of hustle. 1253 00:36:14,681 --> 00:36:15,041 I liked it. 1254 00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:17,182 The opinions expressed by the AV 1255 00:36:17,202 --> 00:36:18,565 Superfriends are solely those of the 1256 00:36:18,585 --> 00:36:20,186 individuals and do not represent their 1257 00:36:20,206 --> 00:36:22,088 respective institutions, organizations, 1258 00:36:22,148 --> 00:36:23,269 companies, or clients.