1 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,830 Andy: This is The Secure Family Podcast. 2 00:00:14,010 --> 00:00:18,270 Welcome friend, I'm Andy Murphy, the host and the founder of The Secure Dad. 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,490 This show is all about empowering parents to protect themselves and their family. 4 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:27,090 I believe that security is the foundation of happiness. 5 00:00:27,390 --> 00:00:29,970 I want your family to be safe and happy. 6 00:00:30,330 --> 00:00:33,780 If that sounds like something that resonates with you, subscribe to 7 00:00:33,780 --> 00:00:36,900 the show because there's always something new to talk about. 8 00:00:37,785 --> 00:00:40,695 The information that I share on this podcast is for general 9 00:00:40,695 --> 00:00:42,405 information purposes only. 10 00:00:42,825 --> 00:00:47,145 My goal is to empower you to make safer decisions for yourself and 11 00:00:47,145 --> 00:00:51,195 your family because our safety is our own responsibility. 12 00:00:52,035 --> 00:00:55,965 Today I get to chat with one of my favorite guests, Patrick McNamara. 13 00:00:56,145 --> 00:00:59,040 We'll talk about his new project just for kids. 14 00:00:59,740 --> 00:01:03,555 All of that and more coming up on the Secure Family Podcast. 15 00:01:06,582 --> 00:01:10,932 I've been warning people for a long time that someone can misuse data broker 16 00:01:10,932 --> 00:01:13,512 information to stalk and hurt you. 17 00:01:14,262 --> 00:01:18,882 Last month we saw this come to light with the horrific attack on two lawmakers. 18 00:01:19,572 --> 00:01:22,902 The alleged attacker researched his targets and their families. 19 00:01:23,502 --> 00:01:26,802 In one of the notebooks he kept police discovered the names of 20 00:01:26,922 --> 00:01:29,112 11 common people search sites. 21 00:01:30,042 --> 00:01:35,232 Removing yourself from data broker sites is necessary to keep your privacy, and now 22 00:01:35,472 --> 00:01:38,067 it's imperative for your personal safety. 23 00:01:38,607 --> 00:01:40,677 This is where DeleteMe can help. 24 00:01:41,127 --> 00:01:44,907 They will remove your data from hundreds of data broker sites giving 25 00:01:44,907 --> 00:01:47,127 you a form of digital self-defense. 26 00:01:47,727 --> 00:01:50,887 Right now you can get 20% off your DeleteMe Plan. 27 00:01:51,317 --> 00:01:56,547 Just go to join DeleteMe.com/dad and use promo code Dad at checkout. 28 00:01:57,087 --> 00:02:00,687 That's join DeleteMe.com/dad code Dad. 29 00:02:01,689 --> 00:02:05,049 Today I welcome back to the show, Mr. Patrick McNamara. 30 00:02:05,539 --> 00:02:08,949 Mac spent 22 years in the military doing special ops work. 31 00:02:09,189 --> 00:02:12,669 After his retirement, he continued to improve himself and others 32 00:02:12,849 --> 00:02:14,289 through specialized training. 33 00:02:14,979 --> 00:02:18,579 Currently, he teaches marksmanship, combatives, and security. 34 00:02:19,209 --> 00:02:24,459 He has his own podcast and is the author of a fantastic book entitled Sentinel. 35 00:02:24,999 --> 00:02:28,359 You may know him from his popular social media posts about Basic Dude 36 00:02:28,359 --> 00:02:32,169 Stuff, but today we're gonna be talking about his latest project. 37 00:02:32,409 --> 00:02:35,079 Here's my conversation with Patrick McNamara. 38 00:02:45,173 --> 00:02:47,753 Hey Mac, thank you so much for being on the show again today. 39 00:02:47,753 --> 00:02:49,973 Remind everybody who you are and what you're up to. 40 00:02:50,828 --> 00:02:51,188 Mac: Great. 41 00:02:51,188 --> 00:02:52,028 Thanks for having me. 42 00:02:52,128 --> 00:02:53,058 Glad to be here again. 43 00:02:53,088 --> 00:02:55,278 So my name is Pat McNamara. 44 00:02:55,278 --> 00:02:58,248 I work for my own, I'm my own BA man. 45 00:02:58,248 --> 00:03:01,668 You know, I work for my own company called Tmax Inc. Uh, 46 00:03:01,668 --> 00:03:02,748 I do a lot of different stuff. 47 00:03:02,748 --> 00:03:06,888 Basically an entrepreneur, I. Um, I'm a retired military guy. 48 00:03:06,888 --> 00:03:12,438 I did 22 years in special ops, uh, retired in oh five from that to start 49 00:03:12,738 --> 00:03:17,508 other ventures, you know, and, and, and along the way I had no idea that I'd 50 00:03:17,508 --> 00:03:22,428 become a social media influencer, but. 51 00:03:23,343 --> 00:03:27,813 It landed in my lap, you know, with between stuff like, uh, Sunday 52 00:03:27,813 --> 00:03:32,163 Sentinel sermons, driveway workouts, basic dude stuff, that kind of thing. 53 00:03:32,163 --> 00:03:37,443 You know, it's, it's um, it's kinda grown exponentially, you 54 00:03:37,443 --> 00:03:39,063 know, over the past several years. 55 00:03:39,753 --> 00:03:43,503 And I think I'm still relatively new to the whole social media 56 00:03:43,503 --> 00:03:47,883 thing, but I mean, it's, the platform's pretty, pretty big by now. 57 00:03:47,883 --> 00:03:48,543 It's pretty big. 58 00:03:48,678 --> 00:03:51,198 Andy: Yeah, man, you've, you've done a great job in kind of 59 00:03:51,198 --> 00:03:54,078 mastering social media, especially with like the Basic Dude Stuff. 60 00:03:54,108 --> 00:03:56,748 By the way, you also forgot to mention you were the author of the book 61 00:03:56,748 --> 00:04:00,828 Sentinel, which is still one of my favorites for, um, self-defense and 62 00:04:00,828 --> 00:04:03,408 understanding how to protect your Yeah, that's it right there, man. 63 00:04:03,888 --> 00:04:07,698 If you have not read this book, please go and buy it is worth every penny. 64 00:04:08,178 --> 00:04:09,288 Um, but yeah. 65 00:04:10,078 --> 00:04:14,038 Yeah, like you've, you've done really good for yourself in all of the 66 00:04:14,038 --> 00:04:17,818 stuff with social media, and I think part of it is, is you know what, you 67 00:04:17,818 --> 00:04:21,688 know, and you were just wanting to share that with other people, right. 68 00:04:21,948 --> 00:04:23,298 Mac: Right, right. 69 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:28,128 Uh, especially with, uh, stuff like, um, basic dude stuff, 70 00:04:28,128 --> 00:04:30,168 that, that was a, an accident. 71 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:35,628 It just happened one night, you know, um, just chit-chatting with my bride. 72 00:04:36,168 --> 00:04:43,308 Uh, it was the end of 19 and within months I felt it necessary. 73 00:04:44,643 --> 00:04:45,813 To do that right there, 74 00:04:46,268 --> 00:04:46,558 Andy: Yeah. 75 00:04:47,523 --> 00:04:48,933 Mac: to get a trademark on it. 76 00:04:49,533 --> 00:04:53,768 I mean, because it grew, you know, it became a worldwide, a 77 00:04:53,768 --> 00:04:56,913 worldwide brand over overnight. 78 00:04:57,213 --> 00:05:04,113 I mean, and, and, and one of the things that I, um, didn't expect is I 79 00:05:04,113 --> 00:05:08,283 would, uh, grow quite a, uh, following. 80 00:05:08,868 --> 00:05:12,018 In with the, with youth, you know what I mean? 81 00:05:12,108 --> 00:05:13,068 Tons of kids. 82 00:05:13,788 --> 00:05:18,318 Uh, so then I got, you know, I was reminded, wow, kids like this, so I 83 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,118 gotta make sure it's clean, you know, 84 00:05:20,238 --> 00:05:20,568 Andy: Yeah. 85 00:05:20,573 --> 00:05:20,863 Right. 86 00:05:20,928 --> 00:05:26,928 Mac: make sure I keep any, uh, keep any cuss words out of it, uh, um, and keep 87 00:05:26,928 --> 00:05:32,478 it just pure and fun, you know, and, and make sure there's no like tobacco 88 00:05:32,478 --> 00:05:34,458 or booze in it and stuff like that, 89 00:05:34,968 --> 00:05:35,418 Andy: Sure. 90 00:05:35,748 --> 00:05:38,088 Mac: So, uh, but yeah, it, it, um. 91 00:05:38,778 --> 00:05:43,728 It, it grew, uh, it grew quite a bit and, and it, it's fun to do because 92 00:05:43,728 --> 00:05:49,788 it's very wholesome content, which is hard these days to be popular with 93 00:05:49,848 --> 00:05:50,358 Andy: Sure. 94 00:05:50,388 --> 00:05:50,928 Oh, yeah. 95 00:05:51,138 --> 00:05:55,098 Mac: on the internet because what sells on the internet is angry, scared, and stupid. 96 00:05:55,188 --> 00:06:00,288 And those three things right there, that's the me that's media worldwide, you know? 97 00:06:00,288 --> 00:06:00,978 And it's a shame. 98 00:06:01,008 --> 00:06:05,148 I mean, we, uh, we human beings are devolving rapidly and we're slipping 99 00:06:05,148 --> 00:06:07,038 further and further from our primal being. 100 00:06:07,428 --> 00:06:09,408 Our attention spans our crap. 101 00:06:09,408 --> 00:06:13,578 You know, we have an attention span less than that of a goldfish, and 102 00:06:13,608 --> 00:06:16,308 it's trickling down to our kids too, you know, which is a shame. 103 00:06:17,118 --> 00:06:17,628 Andy: Right, 104 00:06:17,643 --> 00:06:21,393 Mac: So, you know, I, I, so I've really been trying to find ways 105 00:06:21,393 --> 00:06:24,363 to, you know, influence, um, youth. 106 00:06:24,393 --> 00:06:29,103 Like with the, with the basic dude stuff, it's the Gen Zers, which is great. 107 00:06:29,628 --> 00:06:31,998 Uh, because I get a lot of response from them. 108 00:06:31,998 --> 00:06:33,468 You know, Hey, thanks for doing this. 109 00:06:33,468 --> 00:06:37,608 I had no idea I should know how to change a tire or tie a double 110 00:06:37,608 --> 00:06:40,158 Windsor knot in my tie or whatever. 111 00:06:40,158 --> 00:06:45,318 It's, you know, cook a meal, uh, you know, change a, um, a light fixture. 112 00:06:45,618 --> 00:06:52,428 Uh, so, um, it, it's, it's been real fun having a positive influence on 113 00:06:52,818 --> 00:06:54,708 the, the younger gens, you know? 114 00:06:54,708 --> 00:07:00,198 And, um, my, uh, my business partner, I, my friend, uh, cj and I. CJ Ortiz 115 00:07:00,198 --> 00:07:05,148 and I have a, uh, uh, podcast as well, university of Badassery, and we try 116 00:07:05,148 --> 00:07:07,638 to, um, do the same there as well. 117 00:07:07,638 --> 00:07:11,988 You know, try to influence the younger generations to, uh, just be 118 00:07:11,988 --> 00:07:16,308 better people, you know, and, and, and our, I think our nonsensical 119 00:07:16,668 --> 00:07:20,988 adolescent banter is very palatable. 120 00:07:21,573 --> 00:07:24,153 To, uh, the, to the younger gens. 121 00:07:24,873 --> 00:07:29,163 Um, and now I've, I've ventured into this world of even younger, 122 00:07:29,193 --> 00:07:33,243 younger people, you know, which there's a storyline behind that too. 123 00:07:33,753 --> 00:07:38,613 Uh, and, um, I, I can't wait to get into that because it's been, it's been fun. 124 00:07:38,613 --> 00:07:39,333 It's been fun. 125 00:07:40,023 --> 00:07:40,293 Andy: Yeah. 126 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:41,673 Well, let's go ahead and talk about that. 127 00:07:41,673 --> 00:07:47,013 So who is Mr. Mustavio and did you come up with that name? 128 00:07:47,073 --> 00:07:48,213 Tell me about all of 129 00:07:48,438 --> 00:07:54,768 Mac: uh, when I moved into this neighborhood in, uh, 2017, and my wife 130 00:07:54,768 --> 00:07:58,638 and I keep to ourselves, we're not like, you know, go to the neighbor's house 131 00:07:58,638 --> 00:08:02,418 for barbecue and bring a fruit brat basket over when somebody moves in. 132 00:08:02,418 --> 00:08:08,988 You know, I, I, I don't, I, I, I just like my privacy and MySpace and, 133 00:08:09,498 --> 00:08:14,508 uh, when, um, uh, during, uh, ation. 134 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:20,133 2020 when we were all locked down, we met our neighbors and we were, 135 00:08:20,133 --> 00:08:22,053 oh man, our neighbors are cool. 136 00:08:22,773 --> 00:08:23,343 Uh. 137 00:08:24,258 --> 00:08:26,988 Lots of little kids in the neighborhood, and the little kids in 138 00:08:26,988 --> 00:08:28,728 my neighborhood play like little kids. 139 00:08:29,118 --> 00:08:32,448 They have, they have, they're barefoot, they're tanned. 140 00:08:33,138 --> 00:08:34,278 They play in the woods. 141 00:08:34,278 --> 00:08:38,118 They ride dirt bikes, you know, they build forts, they climb trees. 142 00:08:38,898 --> 00:08:43,608 Uh, they're athletic, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're long 143 00:08:43,668 --> 00:08:50,658 and thin little kids, you know, which is, which is such a, um, it, it, it's. 144 00:08:51,208 --> 00:08:55,408 It's so refreshing to see nowadays, you know, because kids are, are 145 00:08:55,408 --> 00:09:01,018 meek and slight and pasty and, you know, they're under this safety 146 00:09:01,018 --> 00:09:02,278 umbrella from their parents. 147 00:09:02,278 --> 00:09:04,138 I don't know what they're protecting them from. 148 00:09:04,498 --> 00:09:06,388 Parents are protecting 'em from the sun. 149 00:09:06,388 --> 00:09:07,318 Are you kidding me? 150 00:09:08,098 --> 00:09:09,298 We need the sun. 151 00:09:10,648 --> 00:09:15,959 Uh, but, um, in meeting some of my neighbors, uh, uh, a, 152 00:09:16,528 --> 00:09:19,858 a friend of mine, um, he, uh. 153 00:09:22,008 --> 00:09:24,978 His, one of his daughters started calling me Mr. Mustavio, just 154 00:09:24,978 --> 00:09:26,788 out of the blue, Mr. Mustavio. 155 00:09:26,808 --> 00:09:28,128 I said, I said, what does that mean? 156 00:09:28,128 --> 00:09:28,578 She goes, I don't know. 157 00:09:29,898 --> 00:09:31,638 well, you don't know what Mr. Mustavio means. 158 00:09:31,638 --> 00:09:32,448 She goes, I don't know. 159 00:09:32,958 --> 00:09:33,768 I just like the name. 160 00:09:34,458 --> 00:09:36,738 So she started calling me that and then it caught on. 161 00:09:37,308 --> 00:09:42,388 So every little kid in my neighborhood calls me Mr. Mustavio. 162 00:09:42,798 --> 00:09:43,848 They don't even know my name. 163 00:09:43,938 --> 00:09:45,048 And that's what I answer to. 164 00:09:45,978 --> 00:09:48,108 answer to Mr. Mustavio, that's who I am. 165 00:09:48,228 --> 00:09:51,648 Uh, they don't even, I. You know, uh, miss a beat with it. 166 00:09:52,638 --> 00:09:55,098 You know, they'll, when I'm mowing the lawn or something, 167 00:09:55,098 --> 00:09:56,148 they're coming home from school. 168 00:09:56,148 --> 00:09:59,998 Hey, Mr. Mustavio, are you doing basic dude stuff, Mr. Mustavio? 169 00:10:00,018 --> 00:10:01,698 Can we pick some of your blackberries? 170 00:10:02,568 --> 00:10:03,558 Like, yeah, come on up. 171 00:10:03,558 --> 00:10:04,338 Pick blackberries. 172 00:10:05,538 --> 00:10:05,898 Andy: That is 173 00:10:06,108 --> 00:10:09,768 Mac: that's what I've been answering to for the, the kids in the neighborhood 174 00:10:09,978 --> 00:10:13,278 to, I've been answering at, uh, to Mr. 175 00:10:13,278 --> 00:10:13,868 Mustavio. 176 00:10:13,925 --> 00:10:14,525 Andy: Very cool. 177 00:10:14,525 --> 00:10:16,925 You know, you talked about this earlier. 178 00:10:16,925 --> 00:10:20,285 You've done so much with like all your driveway workouts with basic 179 00:10:20,285 --> 00:10:22,175 dude stuff, you've got the podcast. 180 00:10:23,165 --> 00:10:27,305 What has inspired you to start a YouTube channel for kids? 181 00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:29,705 Mac: Well, um, 182 00:10:31,745 --> 00:10:37,865 the past several years I've been, uh, more and more just. 183 00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:45,020 Disheartened and full of almost it, it's sa uh, it's very saddening 184 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:48,470 to see the, the what kids are. 185 00:10:48,935 --> 00:10:53,375 What kids are doing these days and parents forcing devices on 'em and things like 186 00:10:53,375 --> 00:10:54,935 that, you know, they're just disconnected. 187 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:59,045 I, I, I just see a lack of imagination, lack of curiosity. 188 00:10:59,405 --> 00:11:02,015 Uh, and, and, and, you know, it's not the kid's fault, you 189 00:11:02,015 --> 00:11:03,005 know, it's the parent's fault. 190 00:11:03,485 --> 00:11:07,145 They'll go out to restaurants and, and you'll have a family of four. 191 00:11:07,205 --> 00:11:11,525 Everybody will be on a device and everywhere I go, I see parents 192 00:11:11,525 --> 00:11:13,655 bringing little devices for their kids. 193 00:11:14,425 --> 00:11:16,165 You know, and, and they could be sitting outside. 194 00:11:16,615 --> 00:11:20,065 So they're, now, they're myopic, they're in this world, this 45 degree 195 00:11:20,065 --> 00:11:24,355 syndrome, and they're just stuck in there with headphones on out in public. 196 00:11:24,595 --> 00:11:26,575 So they have no idea what's going on around 'em. 197 00:11:26,995 --> 00:11:29,035 And they live in this world of wonder. 198 00:11:29,035 --> 00:11:29,515 See that? 199 00:11:29,515 --> 00:11:34,465 And that's where the, the, the name came up too, is I'm, I'm, I'm I, I'm saddened 200 00:11:35,125 --> 00:11:38,815 that kids are no longer full of wonder. 201 00:11:38,815 --> 00:11:41,365 Kids should be full of wonder and kids should be bored. 202 00:11:41,795 --> 00:11:42,815 They have to be bored. 203 00:11:42,815 --> 00:11:47,285 They have to be bored because that encourages imagination, creativity, 204 00:11:47,735 --> 00:11:52,835 expeditionary mindset, you know, the uh, the willingness and the want and 205 00:11:52,835 --> 00:11:58,835 need to explore, um, to, to figure things out, you know, to exercise 206 00:11:58,865 --> 00:12:00,485 deductive reasoning, all that. 207 00:12:00,695 --> 00:12:02,345 And we're robbing them of that. 208 00:12:02,795 --> 00:12:04,625 We're stealing it from them. 209 00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:09,550 You know, those young, fragile eggshell minds were, they were 210 00:12:09,550 --> 00:12:11,440 completely destroying them. 211 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:16,150 You know, it's so detrimental to their health and upbringing. 212 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:20,140 Uh, and Rebecca and I, 213 00:12:22,390 --> 00:12:23,680 was going to school, social work. 214 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:25,690 went for two years. 215 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:27,640 Two years she got her degree. 216 00:12:28,690 --> 00:12:33,190 It was, um, she'd come home every day in distress. 217 00:12:33,685 --> 00:12:34,105 Andy: Mm-hmm. 218 00:12:34,115 --> 00:12:38,675 Mac: Especially when she started interning counseling kids and watching 219 00:12:38,675 --> 00:12:39,845 what the counselors were doing. 220 00:12:39,875 --> 00:12:42,305 'cause right now it's medicate, medicate, medicate. 221 00:12:42,815 --> 00:12:45,215 You know, it's, it's, it's, they're medicating kids. 222 00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:46,145 Four years old. 223 00:12:46,925 --> 00:12:49,415 You know, if your kids are active, you got, they gotta have 224 00:12:49,415 --> 00:12:53,735 a problem, you know, they have a DH or a DHD or a DD or whatever. 225 00:12:53,975 --> 00:12:57,605 Hey, show me a kid that doesn't have that, and I'll show you a really messed up kid. 226 00:12:58,500 --> 00:12:58,580 Andy: Hmm. 227 00:12:58,895 --> 00:13:00,995 Mac: Kids need to be like that, you know? 228 00:13:01,115 --> 00:13:02,345 And they need to be outside. 229 00:13:02,345 --> 00:13:04,085 They need to exercise, they need to explore. 230 00:13:04,655 --> 00:13:09,905 Um, and, and she would come home in distress every night. 231 00:13:10,295 --> 00:13:13,535 And one night she come, come home in tears and I don't even talk to her. 232 00:13:13,595 --> 00:13:17,946 When she would come home, I'll give her two hours and then I'll let her. 233 00:13:18,635 --> 00:13:23,825 Tell me, and then I'll let her just, uh, uh, gu gush, you know, I'll let 234 00:13:23,825 --> 00:13:26,015 her dump on me and I'll just listen. 235 00:13:26,555 --> 00:13:32,735 And one night it, her, her stories brought me to tears as well, you know, 236 00:13:32,735 --> 00:13:36,515 of little kids being counseled by a counselor in a, in elementary school 237 00:13:36,665 --> 00:13:37,925 and the things they were telling them. 238 00:13:37,925 --> 00:13:43,655 And, and, um, and then I just said it to ourselves, Rebecca, we 239 00:13:43,655 --> 00:13:46,535 could be, we could be part of the problem or part of the solution. 240 00:13:46,745 --> 00:13:47,525 I have an idea. 241 00:13:49,010 --> 00:13:53,750 Um, I have an idea for a kid show, uh, and I didn't know the name yet. 242 00:13:54,105 --> 00:13:56,960 I, I knew I wanted Mr. Mustavio in it, you know. 243 00:13:57,740 --> 00:14:01,820 Um, and I just winged it. 244 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,930 I totally just winged it. 245 00:14:02,930 --> 00:14:05,780 I brought it up to, uh, uh, my buddy cj. 246 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:07,520 I said, what do you think about this concept? 247 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,890 Sent him a rough draft and, um, he started in on the, he, he and his, 248 00:14:12,890 --> 00:14:14,810 uh, kid Joe started in on the editing. 249 00:14:15,650 --> 00:14:16,190 Um. 250 00:14:16,895 --> 00:14:20,165 And then I realized, man, this is, this is easy filming. 251 00:14:20,765 --> 00:14:21,185 Andy: Mm-hmm. 252 00:14:21,335 --> 00:14:25,445 Mac: You know, because I, I, because I have not lost the little kid inside of me. 253 00:14:26,135 --> 00:14:29,975 You know, I'm, I'm still the, the guy who the little kid turns rocks over. 254 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,130 Andy: Mm-hmm. 255 00:14:31,295 --> 00:14:35,765 Mac: like that, you know, or, or examines leaves, uh, when I'm in the woods or 256 00:14:35,765 --> 00:14:40,085 when I'm walking around and is curious to, what flower is this right here? 257 00:14:40,475 --> 00:14:42,275 What is this bug called? 258 00:14:43,115 --> 00:14:45,815 What, you know, kind of, uh, plant. 259 00:14:46,115 --> 00:14:46,811 Is growing here growing? 260 00:14:46,816 --> 00:14:48,785 You know, I, I, I'm just always interested. 261 00:14:48,785 --> 00:14:51,725 I have not lost the child. 262 00:14:51,755 --> 00:14:57,875 The curio, the curious child inside of me is still present, so it's 263 00:14:57,875 --> 00:15:03,935 pretty organic for me to make to content, you know, kids content. 264 00:15:04,895 --> 00:15:06,605 Um, and then came. 265 00:15:07,625 --> 00:15:11,495 Kind of the challenge of formatting, you know, how do I format this? 266 00:15:11,495 --> 00:15:16,775 And I, so I reached back to an idol of mine is childhood in 267 00:15:16,775 --> 00:15:18,365 childhood, childhood idol of mine, 268 00:15:18,635 --> 00:15:19,685 Mr. Rogers. 269 00:15:20,375 --> 00:15:20,915 Andy: Right. 270 00:15:21,005 --> 00:15:22,445 Mac: Rogers nothing but wholesome. 271 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:23,210 Andy: Mm-hmm. 272 00:15:23,225 --> 00:15:27,095 Mac: So I wanted to be wholesome, but still, you know, get you 273 00:15:27,095 --> 00:15:29,225 some, you know, a, a gruff, 274 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:30,470 Andy: Sure. 275 00:15:31,205 --> 00:15:35,135 Mac: uh, uh, gnarly, edgy version of Mr. Rogers. 276 00:15:36,395 --> 00:15:40,535 So, Mr. Rogers would come inside every day with his sport jacket on, 277 00:15:40,955 --> 00:15:44,825 take his sport jacket off, put his sweater on, take his loafers off, and 278 00:15:44,825 --> 00:15:48,395 put his, uh, uh, house sneakers on. 279 00:15:49,445 --> 00:15:56,345 I start every day by going outside, take my shoes off, walk in the grass. 280 00:15:56,735 --> 00:16:00,725 So the format, you know, without, you know, the puppets and things like that, it 281 00:16:00,755 --> 00:16:05,675 w it was kind of Mr. Rogers, um, inspired. 282 00:16:06,450 --> 00:16:24,980 Andy: Mm-hmm. 283 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Mac: they're loud, they're bright, they're shrill. 284 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,060 They're, they're just so much in your face. 285 00:16:32,660 --> 00:16:33,590 They're artificial. 286 00:16:34,220 --> 00:16:37,100 You know, you could almost taste the artificial in them. 287 00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:40,490 So I just wanted to be real wholesome and I thought, well. 288 00:16:41,735 --> 00:16:49,355 If parents are going to force a device on a child, I may as well give them 289 00:16:49,355 --> 00:16:54,575 something to watch on that device that encourages them to get outside. 290 00:16:55,835 --> 00:16:59,255 Whether that outside is, it could be on their back porch. 291 00:17:00,245 --> 00:17:04,175 It could be in their backyard, it could be in the school playground, 292 00:17:04,445 --> 00:17:08,105 it could be in a park, it could be in a wooded area, wherever. 293 00:17:08,105 --> 00:17:13,025 It's, regardless of the scope and size of that area, there's 294 00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:15,365 always something to explore. 295 00:17:16,325 --> 00:17:22,445 Um, and the, and the big one, two, there, there's underlying, underlying 296 00:17:22,445 --> 00:17:24,635 message, message messages here. 297 00:17:25,805 --> 00:17:26,315 Um. 298 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,580 Observation skills. 299 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:31,160 In other words, situational awareness. 300 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:36,200 Look left, look right, look up, look down, be aware. 301 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,440 Don't see, just look, look around. 302 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:41,270 Be curious. 303 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:46,855 You know, get out and look at stuff because we're robbing kids because 304 00:17:46,985 --> 00:17:52,700 we're, we're of, of, of, of stuff, like intuition, observation skills. 305 00:17:53,180 --> 00:17:55,070 So if I could get a kid into birdwatching. 306 00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:57,350 Flowers. 307 00:17:57,770 --> 00:18:04,910 So with Mr, we look down at the smallest bug and up at a bird of prey. 308 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:08,870 You know, we look today, I film lichens. 309 00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:10,755 Andy: Okay. 310 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:15,575 Mac: You know, uh, so we'll film lichens and then snapdragons, you 311 00:18:15,575 --> 00:18:17,495 know, everything in the plant world. 312 00:18:18,275 --> 00:18:25,895 Um, I've taken them camping, fishing, uh, showed 'em, snakes, birds, bees. 313 00:18:26,495 --> 00:18:28,715 Uh, I've got a Beaver Dam across the street and that's 314 00:18:28,715 --> 00:18:29,970 something we visit every day. 315 00:18:31,025 --> 00:18:33,725 Uh, my co-star is my dog, grace. 316 00:18:33,995 --> 00:18:35,045 Andy: Yeah, she's good. 317 00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:36,260 Mac: Uh, yep. 318 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:37,700 She's a perfect CoStar. 319 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:38,780 She has no idea. 320 00:18:38,780 --> 00:18:40,400 She doesn't need to rehearse. 321 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:41,570 She's 322 00:18:41,735 --> 00:18:42,815 Andy: perfect every time. 323 00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:43,130 Yep. 324 00:18:43,460 --> 00:18:43,760 Mac: right? 325 00:18:44,060 --> 00:18:45,710 She's just, yep. 326 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,780 Right after this, I've gotta go film her, um, because I've got number 327 00:18:50,780 --> 00:18:54,410 nine, uh, coming out pretty soon. 328 00:18:54,410 --> 00:18:57,590 So I, I'm almost done with number nine. 329 00:18:57,590 --> 00:19:02,060 The episodes are short, you know, and, and I'm listening to kid feedback. 330 00:19:03,215 --> 00:19:05,735 Uh, because the kids have been giving me feedback. 331 00:19:06,365 --> 00:19:08,855 For instance, they love grace. 332 00:19:08,885 --> 00:19:10,325 They wanna see more of her. 333 00:19:11,375 --> 00:19:16,775 They wanna see her do tricks, they want, um, they love the exercises. 334 00:19:16,775 --> 00:19:18,995 I do exercises at the end too. 335 00:19:19,805 --> 00:19:23,375 At the end of every episode we do an exercise and they're like, 336 00:19:24,365 --> 00:19:26,945 jackal lane style exercise. 337 00:19:27,425 --> 00:19:28,625 So I'm bringing way back. 338 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:29,810 Andy: Yeah. 339 00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:35,855 Mac: and sixties, you know, to the, uh, jackal lane esque style exercises. 340 00:19:36,455 --> 00:19:36,875 Andy: That's 341 00:19:36,905 --> 00:19:38,345 Mac: But it, it's, it's a lot of fun. 342 00:19:38,345 --> 00:19:42,965 I just walk around, you know, and, and I mean, today I filmed 343 00:19:43,025 --> 00:19:47,285 several different bugs, a couple frogs, a lot of different plants. 344 00:19:47,405 --> 00:19:52,055 Um, I mean, you know what's funny? 345 00:19:52,055 --> 00:19:53,290 I told my wife this the other night. 346 00:19:54,455 --> 00:19:58,625 I came in and I said, you know, I went out looking for content and I didn't find any. 347 00:19:59,735 --> 00:20:03,845 And the reason is is I'm not looking through my child's eyes. 348 00:20:03,875 --> 00:20:05,045 I'm looking as an adult, 349 00:20:05,675 --> 00:20:06,305 Andy: Sure. 350 00:20:06,425 --> 00:20:09,785 Mac: know, I'm trying to see, I'm trying to see instead of look. 351 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,610 Andy: So when you were talking about, you know, your idol, Mr. Rogers and you, 352 00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:17,850 uh, coming and taking your shoes off and going out into the grass, like I saw 353 00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:19,530 that when I watched the first episode. 354 00:20:19,530 --> 00:20:22,050 It was like, that is, so Mr. Rogers right there. 355 00:20:22,050 --> 00:20:23,310 And I think that's great. 356 00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:26,340 I think it brings, uh, parents into it as well. 357 00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:27,030 It was like, oh wait. 358 00:20:27,030 --> 00:20:27,150 Yeah. 359 00:20:27,150 --> 00:20:28,260 This is very familiar to me. 360 00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:29,820 So that's, that's awesome. 361 00:20:30,145 --> 00:20:32,340 You, you kind of touched on this a second ago. 362 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:32,580 Um. 363 00:20:33,130 --> 00:20:38,350 What skills do you feel like kids today are really, truly lacking? 364 00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:41,435 What is, what is it that needs to be worked on you think? 365 00:20:42,764 --> 00:20:43,994 Mac: Well, um, 366 00:20:43,994 --> 00:20:45,974 Motor skills like drawing. 367 00:20:47,309 --> 00:20:50,249 So we're gonna draw in a couple episodes, big whiteboard outside. 368 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:51,479 All my stuff is outside. 369 00:20:51,479 --> 00:20:52,559 Nothing's gonna be inside. 370 00:20:52,979 --> 00:20:54,239 Everything's gonna be outside. 371 00:20:54,929 --> 00:20:56,579 Uh, drawing, writing. 372 00:20:56,579 --> 00:20:57,749 I have the whiteboard. 373 00:20:58,169 --> 00:20:59,459 So my thing is whiteboard. 374 00:20:59,459 --> 00:21:02,699 So every episode I show the whiteboard with words written on it. 375 00:21:03,659 --> 00:21:07,919 Um, and, uh, if I could, could, can encourage a kid to get a 376 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:11,069 whiteboard, you know, and take it to a restaurant and draw. 377 00:21:11,954 --> 00:21:14,204 You know, a little whiteboard or right stuff. 378 00:21:14,384 --> 00:21:19,094 Instead of putting a pad in front of them and watching something goofy, 379 00:21:19,964 --> 00:21:21,404 you know, something, brain numbing. 380 00:21:21,524 --> 00:21:24,074 Then success block another one. 381 00:21:24,074 --> 00:21:27,644 Today, what I filmed was cardinal direction, 382 00:21:28,515 --> 00:21:29,150 Andy: Very important. 383 00:21:29,174 --> 00:21:30,794 Mac: so I said, uh, I said. 384 00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:32,369 Let's take a walk. 385 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:34,229 Which direction should we go? 386 00:21:34,499 --> 00:21:37,739 Should we go north, south, east, or west? 387 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:41,129 And I, I said, oh, you don't know direction, or some of you do. 388 00:21:41,789 --> 00:21:43,829 So I talk about how to find direction. 389 00:21:43,829 --> 00:21:48,059 Then I told him a field expedient way, like with the, uh, li liking on the 390 00:21:48,059 --> 00:21:49,829 tree, you know, north side of the tree. 391 00:21:49,829 --> 00:21:54,089 And then I showed him a compass and I said, we're gonna go west today. 392 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,529 That's where the beaver dam is. 393 00:21:56,219 --> 00:21:59,909 Um, but I think all core. 394 00:22:01,199 --> 00:22:06,449 Primal skills without being like, there's people who know me, you 395 00:22:06,449 --> 00:22:07,559 know, and know Basic Dude Stuff. 396 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,899 They're like, oh, you gotta teach, show kids safe, uh, 397 00:22:09,899 --> 00:22:11,339 firearm safety or making a fire. 398 00:22:11,339 --> 00:22:12,539 It's like, no, no, no, no, no. 399 00:22:12,869 --> 00:22:14,279 This is a 6-year-old bro. 400 00:22:14,849 --> 00:22:16,259 You know, this is four to eight. 401 00:22:16,529 --> 00:22:17,039 Yes. 402 00:22:17,159 --> 00:22:22,409 I don't need to, and, and because what I am very, very careful. 403 00:22:22,619 --> 00:22:25,439 I don't wanna ruffle parents' feathers. 404 00:22:26,129 --> 00:22:29,489 I want them to see this like, uh, for instance, um. 405 00:22:30,059 --> 00:22:31,829 Every episode I do, I wear a black t-shirt, 406 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:32,280 Andy: Mm-hmm. 407 00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:33,449 Mac: solid black. 408 00:22:33,449 --> 00:22:36,119 Now, every once in a while I'll film something and I'll have on a 409 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,039 t-shirt, like, you know, uh, but even careful about what I am wearing. 410 00:22:41,729 --> 00:22:48,839 Um, I don't want to, um, you know, mix in anything that can be even 411 00:22:49,109 --> 00:22:52,949 impossibly thought of as political. 412 00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:53,480 Andy: Mm-hmm. 413 00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:57,779 Mac: Or biased or anything like, and you have to be so careful with verbiage 414 00:22:57,779 --> 00:23:03,029 because you know, a parent might hear something and think, oh, you're trying 415 00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:04,919 to subliminally manipulate my kid? 416 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:05,350 Andy: Mm-hmm. 417 00:23:06,239 --> 00:23:08,549 Mac: And, and, and it, and, and that could be troublesome. 418 00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:12,749 Now, I did something today that's a little edgy, and I did, and I took 419 00:23:12,749 --> 00:23:14,519 a book, a page out of Mr. Rogers 420 00:23:14,590 --> 00:23:15,010 Andy: Mm-hmm. 421 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:16,889 Mac: a couple months ago. 422 00:23:16,889 --> 00:23:17,639 I got, uh. 423 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,279 Six new chicks, and we've been going on a journey with the chicks growing up. 424 00:23:23,609 --> 00:23:27,299 One of them, a sneaky little guy is a rooster. 425 00:23:28,109 --> 00:23:31,919 I showed the kids that to me, I said this one, I said, you're not fooling anybody. 426 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:33,419 You're a rooster. 427 00:23:33,419 --> 00:23:34,739 You're a boy, not a girl. 428 00:23:34,829 --> 00:23:37,139 So that could be, even nowadays, 429 00:23:37,985 --> 00:23:38,275 Andy: True. 430 00:23:38,395 --> 00:23:39,210 I see where you're going. 431 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:39,900 Yeah. 432 00:23:39,905 --> 00:23:40,315 Mm-hmm. 433 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,214 Mac: But Mr. Mr. Rogers did that episode. 434 00:23:42,214 --> 00:23:44,249 You know, boys are boys and girls are girls, blah, blah, blah. 435 00:23:44,249 --> 00:23:45,359 There was a whole song about it. 436 00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:48,899 Um, so even that, I was like, eh, do I put that in? 437 00:23:49,139 --> 00:23:53,039 No, I'm putting that in there because it's a rooster, you know, it's a, it's a 438 00:23:53,124 --> 00:23:56,729 chicken, it's a, it's, but you know, it's, it looks different, you know, it's got a 439 00:23:56,879 --> 00:24:00,899 massive comb on its head and everything, so, you know, you're not fooling anybody. 440 00:24:00,899 --> 00:24:02,549 You're a rooster, you're a boy, not a girl. 441 00:24:02,609 --> 00:24:05,759 So, uh, you know, uh, and, and every once in a while, I 442 00:24:05,759 --> 00:24:08,159 think, Hmm, should I say that? 443 00:24:08,459 --> 00:24:11,099 But most of the time I'm just identifying bugs 444 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:11,640 Andy: Mm-hmm. 445 00:24:11,879 --> 00:24:12,509 Mac: birds. 446 00:24:13,454 --> 00:24:17,324 You know, uh, I think birdwatching is one of those skills. 447 00:24:17,354 --> 00:24:22,004 I even recommend it for adults, you know, to, to exercise. 448 00:24:22,064 --> 00:24:25,694 Um, uh, not only situational awareness, but observation skills, 449 00:24:25,994 --> 00:24:30,374 you know, color contrast, movement, you know, things of that nature. 450 00:24:30,674 --> 00:24:36,794 Uh, and, and it could, I think it, it may, I, and I know it has because 451 00:24:36,794 --> 00:24:40,034 it's already encouraged parents to. 452 00:24:40,769 --> 00:24:42,899 Bring their kids outside and explore little things. 453 00:24:43,829 --> 00:24:46,799 So if there's a trickle down effect, man, I'm happy now. 454 00:24:47,009 --> 00:24:48,029 Not a lot of growth. 455 00:24:48,029 --> 00:24:48,329 Right. 456 00:24:48,329 --> 00:24:52,049 I mean, I've got eight episodes out and it's slow. 457 00:24:52,049 --> 00:24:52,499 Slow 458 00:24:52,515 --> 00:24:53,115 Andy: sure. 459 00:24:53,265 --> 00:24:53,745 sure. 460 00:24:54,225 --> 00:24:54,795 But yeah. 461 00:24:55,545 --> 00:24:58,785 But you are, you're starting in like this kind of a saturated 462 00:24:58,785 --> 00:25:01,725 market, but like that's cool. 463 00:25:01,725 --> 00:25:05,535 I mean, kids content, if like kids latch onto it, it will grow. 464 00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:06,975 I mean like, yeah. 465 00:25:07,065 --> 00:25:07,365 Yeah. 466 00:25:07,365 --> 00:25:10,305 Just, and, and one of the things you were talking about with birdwatching, I think 467 00:25:10,305 --> 00:25:12,195 also patience is a big part of that. 468 00:25:12,405 --> 00:25:13,065 And I think if you 469 00:25:13,124 --> 00:25:13,424 Mac: Patient. 470 00:25:13,454 --> 00:25:13,814 Oh yeah, 471 00:25:13,815 --> 00:25:15,495 Andy: patience in this Yeah. 472 00:25:15,615 --> 00:25:16,390 You're, you're good. 473 00:25:17,534 --> 00:25:17,834 Mac: Yep. 474 00:25:18,014 --> 00:25:19,214 Well, I talk about patience. 475 00:25:19,244 --> 00:25:21,674 'cause when we walk around and look for stuff, I say, Hey, 476 00:25:21,674 --> 00:25:23,144 sometime you gotta be real patient. 477 00:25:23,744 --> 00:25:27,734 You're not gonna see it if you're, if you're loud and running around, we've 478 00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:29,804 gotta be quiet and we've gotta be patient. 479 00:25:30,615 --> 00:25:30,975 Andy: Very 480 00:25:31,274 --> 00:25:33,164 Mac: So, you know, parents will appreciate that. 481 00:25:33,555 --> 00:25:34,725 Andy: Uh, yeah, for sure. 482 00:25:34,905 --> 00:25:35,025 Yeah. 483 00:25:36,015 --> 00:25:39,255 Um, so, so far I know you've only done a limited amount of episodes. 484 00:25:39,255 --> 00:25:41,625 What's been your, your favorite one so far? 485 00:25:42,339 --> 00:25:48,159 Mac: Uh, the last one I did, which was number eight, there's just a, 486 00:25:48,159 --> 00:25:52,629 uh, there's a variety, you know, everything from Grace to it had the, 487 00:25:52,689 --> 00:25:58,149 the full, um, circle of, of, uh, all of. 488 00:25:59,844 --> 00:26:02,334 um, the things that I want to cover. 489 00:26:02,334 --> 00:26:08,124 Plants, flowers, birds, um, the gardening Grace and beaver dam. 490 00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:13,314 Uh, I even, uh, went down to the beaver dam and you'll see on number eight. 491 00:26:13,314 --> 00:26:14,574 It's great the timing. 492 00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:16,584 I couldn't have orchestrated. 493 00:26:17,604 --> 00:26:19,764 I am filming and I say, I see the beaver. 494 00:26:21,114 --> 00:26:22,194 He's right there. 495 00:26:22,644 --> 00:26:26,484 And I says, sometime Beaver will smash their tail on the water. 496 00:26:27,594 --> 00:26:32,934 Uh, to, to, um, to warn us, you know, and smash. 497 00:26:32,934 --> 00:26:35,874 I mean, the timing was perfect and I said just like that. 498 00:26:37,104 --> 00:26:37,854 So it was great. 499 00:26:38,094 --> 00:26:42,624 The, one of the things I wanna talk about too, I remember my kid when he was five, 500 00:26:43,404 --> 00:26:45,984 he talked, he was cur very, very curious. 501 00:26:46,434 --> 00:26:50,454 Um, and he was asking about what, what is a defense mechanism? 502 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:51,250 Andy: Good 503 00:26:51,384 --> 00:26:53,184 Mac: So I did that one on number eight too. 504 00:26:53,184 --> 00:26:55,644 With a p, with a P bug, a rolly polley. 505 00:26:56,184 --> 00:26:59,664 I said, p uh, rolly pollies will roll up into a ball sometime. 506 00:27:00,024 --> 00:27:01,404 It's a defense mechanism. 507 00:27:01,404 --> 00:27:04,284 So I wanna keep mentioning that, you know, a skunk has smell. 508 00:27:04,284 --> 00:27:06,954 It's a defense mechanism, you know, to, uh, teach kids a few 509 00:27:06,954 --> 00:27:11,094 cool words like that so they know, you know, so they could maybe even 510 00:27:11,094 --> 00:27:12,924 build their own defense mechanism. 511 00:27:12,924 --> 00:27:15,204 You know, we could talk about that, you know? 512 00:27:16,164 --> 00:27:16,554 Uh. 513 00:27:17,729 --> 00:27:21,994 And, and I have no idea where it's gonna go, but right now I'm just gonna keep 514 00:27:21,994 --> 00:27:24,544 doing what I'm doing the same format. 515 00:27:25,594 --> 00:27:31,924 You know, the formatting is tough because, um, I just don't go out in an hour 516 00:27:32,215 --> 00:27:32,635 Andy: Mm-hmm. 517 00:27:32,914 --> 00:27:35,134 Mac: and film a bunch of stuff and come back and edit it. 518 00:27:35,314 --> 00:27:38,644 I mean, it's, it's, you know, a week or two. 519 00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:42,969 Of filming little things, just, uh, targets of opportunity. 520 00:27:43,659 --> 00:27:47,499 And then I stole 'em into a folder and then I come, have to come back, 521 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:52,809 edit each one, crop it down, and then put 'em into sequential format, 522 00:27:53,829 --> 00:27:54,819 you know, with the whiteboard. 523 00:27:54,999 --> 00:27:59,349 Let's go look at a turtle, you know, and then I'll look for the turtle clip. 524 00:27:59,949 --> 00:28:06,249 Let's go find some, uh, some birds, and then I'll look for my bird clips And, um. 525 00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:11,564 And, uh, but, uh, in the mean, in the meantime, um, I'm learning too because 526 00:28:12,044 --> 00:28:14,624 I downloaded a plant app, a bug app. 527 00:28:14,774 --> 00:28:17,054 I know birds, so I don't have to download that. 528 00:28:17,054 --> 00:28:20,744 But, um, you know, I've downloaded these apps, so I don't know what, uh, 529 00:28:21,194 --> 00:28:25,244 you know what these, a lot of these bugs are really called, you know, 530 00:28:25,574 --> 00:28:27,104 there's so many different variations. 531 00:28:27,314 --> 00:28:31,844 Like, I filmed a, a dragonfly today and, uh, and, um. 532 00:28:32,314 --> 00:28:34,474 Never, uh, never heard of it, the type 533 00:28:34,795 --> 00:28:35,215 Andy: Mm-hmm. 534 00:28:35,704 --> 00:28:38,944 Mac: uh, thankfully I had that planned app and I was able to talk about it. 535 00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:39,370 Andy: Yeah. 536 00:28:39,370 --> 00:28:42,400 So you're, you're learning right along there with the kids and didn't in an 537 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,340 episode, you filmed up in New York, right? 538 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:47,830 You shot with like a, a bird up in New York City. 539 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,550 Yeah. 540 00:28:48,964 --> 00:28:50,074 Mac: Yep, yep, yep. 541 00:28:50,434 --> 00:28:51,664 Bird and a squirrel. 542 00:28:51,664 --> 00:28:53,224 I had a squirrel visit me in New York 543 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,950 Andy: That's what it was. 544 00:28:53,950 --> 00:28:54,160 Yeah. 545 00:28:54,504 --> 00:28:54,774 Mac: Yep. 546 00:28:54,984 --> 00:28:55,704 Yep, yep. 547 00:28:55,884 --> 00:28:57,204 So where, where, wherever. 548 00:28:57,204 --> 00:28:58,524 You know, I could I, I mean, 549 00:28:59,034 --> 00:29:02,334 I think the backyard thing is the most fun because. 550 00:29:02,814 --> 00:29:09,234 Uh, uh, not all kids have a backyard, but most of them do, or at least they have a 551 00:29:09,234 --> 00:29:11,364 school yard or a park they could go to. 552 00:29:11,394 --> 00:29:14,544 You know, I mean, I'm fortunate I got woods across the street and 553 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:15,954 a beaver dam across the street. 554 00:29:16,854 --> 00:29:20,574 I understand that some kids live very rural and some live very urban. 555 00:29:21,024 --> 00:29:26,124 So I have to understand that and, um, you know, kind of. 556 00:29:26,844 --> 00:29:30,654 Empathize with the fact that, you know, I have it pretty good because 557 00:29:30,654 --> 00:29:34,584 I have the 16 raised beds, you know, so I may as well share it with them. 558 00:29:34,584 --> 00:29:38,454 I have these magnificent birds that come to, uh. 559 00:29:38,859 --> 00:29:40,149 Uh, to visit me. 560 00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:45,009 Um, today I had, uh, uh, I, I got a rabbit now in the yard, 561 00:29:45,069 --> 00:29:46,929 which, uh, is driving my dog 562 00:29:47,175 --> 00:29:47,875 Andy: Oh, I'm sure. 563 00:29:48,609 --> 00:29:51,579 Mac: but, uh, it's, it's a visitor now and I got to film 564 00:29:51,579 --> 00:29:53,079 the, the bunny today as well. 565 00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:58,209 So, uh, you know, but yeah, it's, it's, it's, lot of, it's a lot of fun. 566 00:29:58,479 --> 00:29:59,259 It's a lot of fun. 567 00:29:59,425 --> 00:30:00,115 Andy: Yeah, and I, and I 568 00:30:00,219 --> 00:30:00,489 Mac: Yeah. 569 00:30:00,489 --> 00:30:05,409 I'm just hoping, I'm hoping gets some growth, you know, uh, because that'll 570 00:30:05,409 --> 00:30:07,449 encourage me too to, you know, to. 571 00:30:07,869 --> 00:30:13,899 To dig up more content and go visit people who have, you know, uh, animals, 572 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:17,139 uh, farms, um, whatever the dog trainers. 573 00:30:17,139 --> 00:30:17,829 I don't know. 574 00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,139 Uh, parakeets, I don't care what it is. 575 00:30:20,139 --> 00:30:20,499 Whatever. 576 00:30:20,499 --> 00:30:21,549 It's, you know. 577 00:30:21,609 --> 00:30:22,599 Um, I'm, 578 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,809 I'm, uh, one guy told me he's got a Spider Farm. 579 00:30:26,365 --> 00:30:27,325 Andy: Oh yeah, no. 580 00:30:27,415 --> 00:30:27,805 Mm-hmm. 581 00:30:27,865 --> 00:30:28,615 Not for me, man. 582 00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:30,565 You know, you, 583 00:30:30,669 --> 00:30:32,349 Mac: is, but that's part of it, right? 584 00:30:32,349 --> 00:30:37,419 So that I gotta film even the creepy stuff and, uh, spiders and bees 585 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:38,889 and, you know, things like that. 586 00:30:38,949 --> 00:30:42,609 Um, I've gotta film that and talk about it, you know, Hey, these 587 00:30:42,609 --> 00:30:46,749 are part of our world of wonder where it's cool to be curious and 588 00:30:46,749 --> 00:30:48,159 I want that to be a buzz phrase. 589 00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:49,569 So much, you know, so bad, Kat. 590 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:53,590 Andy: So you've, you've shared about some of the struggles that your wife 591 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:57,520 is seeing in her job and kind of the problems that kids are facing today. 592 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,960 What are some of the skills that you feel every kid needs to have to grow up? 593 00:31:02,604 --> 00:31:09,294 Mac: Skills that are innate to a child, curiosity, imagination, things like 594 00:31:09,294 --> 00:31:15,564 that, uh, kids like to look around, you know, we watch, um, I. I mean, it's 595 00:31:15,564 --> 00:31:16,689 every day, you know, it's every day. 596 00:31:16,689 --> 00:31:22,179 We watched, uh, outdoor venue, uh, food truck venue, uh, 597 00:31:22,239 --> 00:31:23,859 parents bring a 2-year-old. 598 00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:29,139 And, um, they brought this 2-year-old, sat him down in like a highchair, and 599 00:31:29,139 --> 00:31:33,009 the kid's looking around, you know, and the dad had a, and the really cute kid, 600 00:31:33,009 --> 00:31:36,609 and were smiling and the dad smile at us and the dad put a device right in 601 00:31:36,609 --> 00:31:40,569 front of the kid and the kid looked at the device and still looking around. 602 00:31:40,569 --> 00:31:42,519 And Rebecca goes, that's right, kid. 603 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:42,999 Fight it. 604 00:31:43,179 --> 00:31:43,689 Fight it. 605 00:31:44,004 --> 00:31:47,964 Fight it because kids wanna look around, you know, they're curious. 606 00:31:48,414 --> 00:31:53,214 They want to see people's faces, you know, and expressions, and they want to hear 607 00:31:53,214 --> 00:31:55,734 noises, you know, they like murmuring. 608 00:31:56,409 --> 00:32:00,549 You know, they, it's comfort to them, you know, comfort in, in, in mass. 609 00:32:00,849 --> 00:32:07,869 Um, and we're just so curiosity, imagination are the biggest ones, 610 00:32:08,109 --> 00:32:12,399 you know, and, and just to be full of wonder, don't freaking rob 611 00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:14,169 that kid of being full of wonder. 612 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,289 Let that kid look around, man. 613 00:32:17,289 --> 00:32:19,119 I mean, it's, it pains me so much. 614 00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,009 I have no idea what they're gonna turn into. 615 00:32:21,009 --> 00:32:22,869 A bunch of tralo, you know. 616 00:32:23,139 --> 00:32:29,589 Kids are gonna turn into troglodytes, pasty flacid, uh, big brains, 617 00:32:29,589 --> 00:32:31,419 but not functional at all. 618 00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,269 You know, they're just gonna be walking around the streets, bumping into 619 00:32:34,269 --> 00:32:37,449 stuff, um, with no sense of direction. 620 00:32:38,139 --> 00:32:41,589 You know, we used to be able to, we human beings used to be able to hear direction. 621 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:43,929 We could feel it in our bodies. 622 00:32:44,724 --> 00:32:48,324 Our primitive man knew without a compass, without the sun. 623 00:32:48,504 --> 00:32:50,424 It could be Boreal Forest at night. 624 00:32:50,934 --> 00:32:53,964 And our primitive human being would say that is north right there. 625 00:32:54,744 --> 00:32:59,334 Um, but not, we're just, we're, and it's adults too. 626 00:32:59,364 --> 00:33:03,504 You know, adults are robbing themselves of intuition, imagination, creativity, 627 00:33:03,504 --> 00:33:08,604 observation, skills, situational awareness, all of it robbing themselves. 628 00:33:08,694 --> 00:33:10,704 Uh, you know, it's, it's, um. 629 00:33:12,354 --> 00:33:18,174 they're contributing to a, to the downfall of a race and that race as human 630 00:33:18,444 --> 00:33:21,504 being, especially us first worlders, 631 00:33:21,985 --> 00:33:22,705 Andy: Mm. Mm-hmm. 632 00:33:23,305 --> 00:33:23,695 Sure. 633 00:33:23,755 --> 00:33:24,085 Yeah. 634 00:33:24,655 --> 00:33:25,945 That's important to, yeah. 635 00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:27,355 Yeah, I get that. 636 00:33:27,444 --> 00:33:27,684 Mac: Right. 637 00:33:28,615 --> 00:33:32,065 Andy: I know that you have a lot of skills in your life, but what is a 638 00:33:32,065 --> 00:33:36,145 skill that you picked up as a kid that you have used throughout your 639 00:33:36,145 --> 00:33:37,645 life that you could share with us? 640 00:33:39,129 --> 00:33:42,369 Mac: Um, two of them, and they kind of go hand in hand, 641 00:33:42,459 --> 00:33:44,139 uh, birdwatching and drawing. 642 00:33:44,739 --> 00:33:48,489 So I started drawing and I, my, my home is littered with 643 00:33:48,609 --> 00:33:50,259 all the artwork that I've done. 644 00:33:50,679 --> 00:33:53,589 My wife and I are both, uh, we both do artwork. 645 00:33:53,709 --> 00:33:56,259 My kids are, uh, very artsy fartsy as well. 646 00:33:57,194 --> 00:34:03,104 Um, so the drawing is probably, I think maybe age seven. 647 00:34:03,104 --> 00:34:06,104 There used to be a show on, and, uh, and this is how I'm gonna 648 00:34:06,104 --> 00:34:07,214 do my drawing when I do it. 649 00:34:07,514 --> 00:34:12,134 There used to be a show on, uh, Sunday mornings, uh, called Captain Bob. 650 00:34:13,124 --> 00:34:15,164 Um, so this was. 651 00:34:16,329 --> 00:34:18,579 Late seventies ear? 652 00:34:18,609 --> 00:34:19,749 No, no, no, no. 653 00:34:20,019 --> 00:34:22,389 Early, early, early seventies Sometime. 654 00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:23,559 I forget how old I am. 655 00:34:24,909 --> 00:34:26,194 So I was born in 1965. 656 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:29,649 I was 60 years old in case, so it was early seventies. 657 00:34:29,949 --> 00:34:33,789 Captain Bob would come on eight o'clock on Sunday mornings and it 658 00:34:33,789 --> 00:34:35,259 was a how to, you know, drawing. 659 00:34:35,264 --> 00:34:35,914 And my dad would. 660 00:34:36,364 --> 00:34:40,474 On Sunday morning before he left the church, he would leave construction paper 661 00:34:40,474 --> 00:34:43,864 and pencils on the living room floor so we could lay down the living room floor. 662 00:34:44,074 --> 00:34:46,714 'cause you know, the little TV just sat on the living room, 663 00:34:46,945 --> 00:34:47,235 Andy: Yeah. 664 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:47,350 Yeah. 665 00:34:48,095 --> 00:34:48,315 Yep. 666 00:34:48,724 --> 00:34:49,054 Mac: there. 667 00:34:49,744 --> 00:34:52,804 Um, and we would draw along with Captain Bob. 668 00:34:52,804 --> 00:34:54,874 It was all, all, all outdoor stuff. 669 00:34:55,654 --> 00:34:57,574 So, um, the drawing. 670 00:34:57,939 --> 00:34:58,749 Was a big one. 671 00:34:58,749 --> 00:35:02,169 And the birdwatching, because birdwatching, I still do it, 672 00:35:02,169 --> 00:35:03,459 but that's a skill, right? 673 00:35:03,459 --> 00:35:07,599 It's an observation skill, and it's taught me how to be observant. 674 00:35:07,929 --> 00:35:12,879 And it's helped me exercise my eyeballs to see things in full spectrum 675 00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:16,629 from here to there immediately. 676 00:35:17,139 --> 00:35:18,789 Um, the, uh. 677 00:35:19,389 --> 00:35:22,839 But those are two really huge ones. 678 00:35:22,839 --> 00:35:29,079 And then I was always into, I was a very gentle kid, but I was always outdoors. 679 00:35:29,259 --> 00:35:30,399 I was always exploring. 680 00:35:30,849 --> 00:35:34,904 I wanted to know what everything was, you know, and I. And, uh, 681 00:35:34,904 --> 00:35:36,014 you know, my parents were busy. 682 00:35:36,014 --> 00:35:38,864 They were parents of the seventies, you know, they didn't, they 683 00:35:38,864 --> 00:35:41,984 weren't like, look, you know, look it up on the internet. 684 00:35:42,224 --> 00:35:44,624 You know, if you wanted a book on something, you, you walked to 685 00:35:44,624 --> 00:35:46,274 the library and you checked out a 686 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,060 Andy: Mm-hmm. 687 00:35:47,204 --> 00:35:49,694 Mac: uh, on, you know, what are these plants. 688 00:35:50,344 --> 00:35:51,454 What are these birds? 689 00:35:51,454 --> 00:35:55,504 So, you know, before I had my own bird guide, I had to go to the library, 690 00:35:56,104 --> 00:36:00,664 uh, and my dad would take me some time to the big library in, in the 691 00:36:00,664 --> 00:36:04,864 middle of town instead of walking to, you know, uh, what was that one? 692 00:36:04,864 --> 00:36:06,244 Jefferson? 693 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:12,549 Jefferson Elementary School was, they had a library, I had a library 694 00:36:12,549 --> 00:36:14,319 car too in New Britain, Connecticut. 695 00:36:15,609 --> 00:36:16,839 And, you know, it wasn't far. 696 00:36:16,839 --> 00:36:19,839 It was, uh, half a mile away or something like that, maybe 697 00:36:20,619 --> 00:36:22,299 under a mile, you know, away. 698 00:36:22,479 --> 00:36:24,729 Uh, walked that library and check out books. 699 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:31,244 Um, and, um, man, because I think putting pen. 700 00:36:32,184 --> 00:36:37,164 Pencil to paper is another massively diminishing skill. 701 00:36:37,584 --> 00:36:40,404 Uh, have you ever seen a Gen Z write 702 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,650 Andy: Yeah. 703 00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:42,310 Yeah, man. 704 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:45,910 Handwriting is, is degrading fast, and I have horrible 705 00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:46,815 handwriting saying that. 706 00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:49,929 Mac: They, they, they, I mean, uh, 707 00:36:49,959 --> 00:36:51,879 but they'll justify and say it's an anachronism. 708 00:36:51,879 --> 00:36:52,599 We don't need to write. 709 00:36:53,229 --> 00:36:54,699 Uh, but dang man. 710 00:36:54,969 --> 00:36:55,839 But what if you do? 711 00:36:56,379 --> 00:36:58,749 What if you actually, what if everything does go down and you 712 00:36:58,749 --> 00:37:00,489 need to draw somebody a strip map? 713 00:37:00,939 --> 00:37:05,314 You know, or, or aren't you gonna ever write a sonic? 714 00:37:05,915 --> 00:37:06,335 Andy: Mm-hmm. 715 00:37:06,839 --> 00:37:10,799 Mac: You know, or, or, or, or jot down notes of a, of a song 716 00:37:10,799 --> 00:37:12,659 lyric you, you, you came up with. 717 00:37:12,929 --> 00:37:16,169 I mean, it's necessary to, to be able to write. 718 00:37:16,169 --> 00:37:19,199 So I, I, uh, those are two, and they're not necessarily skills, 719 00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:24,089 they're just innate, um, skills that kids should be able to do. 720 00:37:24,569 --> 00:37:27,869 Uh, you know, and there's, there's, there, there are many more. 721 00:37:27,869 --> 00:37:29,429 But, um, uh. 722 00:37:30,339 --> 00:37:36,639 But we, uh, we coddle, you know, we're, we coddle kids and we protect them, which 723 00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:40,809 we're not protecting them from anything, you know, we're doing damage to them. 724 00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:44,709 I think that the, like that, the huge one for me, it's heartbreaking, 725 00:37:44,979 --> 00:37:47,079 is protecting kids from the sun. 726 00:37:47,709 --> 00:37:50,259 That's a bunch of malarkey, you know? 727 00:37:50,259 --> 00:37:50,739 Um. 728 00:37:51,289 --> 00:37:55,069 We, it is so necessary that kids get sun on them, you know, especially for 729 00:37:55,069 --> 00:37:59,959 boys, you know, especially developing boys to get sun on them for testosterone 730 00:37:59,959 --> 00:38:05,149 development and, and, and, and just good connection between the neuroreceptors. 731 00:38:05,539 --> 00:38:11,179 Um, uh, uh, and I think another one that I'm trying to get through, um, 732 00:38:11,479 --> 00:38:14,659 is I'm doing a lot on the health side. 733 00:38:17,229 --> 00:38:21,009 Like I grow my own vegetables and you know, gr you know, I say 734 00:38:21,009 --> 00:38:23,529 let's pick some green beans and let's see if Grace likes one. 735 00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:25,929 She loves 'em, she loves green beans. 736 00:38:25,929 --> 00:38:26,769 Do you like green beans? 737 00:38:26,769 --> 00:38:27,639 I love green beans. 738 00:38:28,269 --> 00:38:30,939 Uh, like I think the last one I say, look at this broccoli. 739 00:38:30,939 --> 00:38:33,099 I said, it's not for everybody, but it's really good for you. 740 00:38:33,099 --> 00:38:33,939 I love broccoli. 741 00:38:34,209 --> 00:38:35,619 You should at least try it. 742 00:38:35,664 --> 00:38:37,104 You know, I said, I said that. 743 00:38:37,134 --> 00:38:38,454 'cause I don't, I, I get it. 744 00:38:38,934 --> 00:38:39,954 You know, I'm, I'm not, 745 00:38:40,284 --> 00:38:44,214 I'm not gonna impose my will on a kid and say you should eat your vegetables. 746 00:38:45,355 --> 00:38:45,745 Andy: Yeah. 747 00:38:45,745 --> 00:38:45,805 I. 748 00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:49,734 Mac: but I think it's important to, for kids to see that you 749 00:38:49,734 --> 00:38:51,684 could grow stuff out of dirt 750 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:52,160 Andy: Mm-hmm. 751 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,204 Mac: and eat it later, 752 00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:55,010 Andy: Mm-hmm. 753 00:38:55,044 --> 00:38:59,424 Mac: you know, and that it's good for you and that exercise is good for you. 754 00:38:59,844 --> 00:39:04,524 You know, and, uh, but there, there, there's just life skills galore 755 00:39:04,524 --> 00:39:09,474 are going to be, uh, intermingled within the contents of Mr. 756 00:39:09,474 --> 00:39:11,364 Mustavio's world of wonder. 757 00:39:12,085 --> 00:39:14,725 Andy: Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm glad you talked about life skills and you talked 758 00:39:14,725 --> 00:39:16,285 about your mom and dad a second ago. 759 00:39:16,645 --> 00:39:22,135 What role do parents play in ensuring life skills for their kids? 760 00:39:22,835 --> 00:39:23,915 Mac: Part of it is. 761 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:27,680 Man, don't force that device on 'em, please. 762 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:33,740 Parents don't force that thing on 'em, you know, um, there's a, a restaurant 763 00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:38,000 here in town that has, uh, we donate coloring books to and crayons. 764 00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:41,960 So parents could go in and, and ask, Hey, do you have a coloring book? 765 00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:42,950 Yep, we could Sure do. 766 00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:46,250 And here's some, you know, um, you don't need to force a device 767 00:39:46,250 --> 00:39:48,080 on 'em just because they're. 768 00:39:49,610 --> 00:39:54,470 Um, you know, uh, they don't have anything to do. 769 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:55,580 They're not occupied. 770 00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:59,720 They, they'll find no, they could find stuff to do, you know, um, you could 771 00:39:59,930 --> 00:40:02,390 tell, Hey, go look at that thing. 772 00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:05,660 Come back and tell me what it's, go, go, go over there. 773 00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:06,380 There's a tree. 774 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:08,150 Um, go feel. 775 00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:10,610 I, I, I saw a little girl. 776 00:40:11,235 --> 00:40:14,835 Couple weeks ago, she's probably three, nah, let's say two, just at that walking 777 00:40:14,835 --> 00:40:16,185 age, you know, stumbling, bumbling. 778 00:40:16,845 --> 00:40:17,805 And she was with her mom. 779 00:40:17,805 --> 00:40:18,795 Her mom was right behind her. 780 00:40:18,795 --> 00:40:21,885 And I love that her mom says, yeah, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna give her a 781 00:40:21,885 --> 00:40:23,565 long leash and see what she's up to. 782 00:40:24,315 --> 00:40:26,655 And she ran over to a tree and hugged it. 783 00:40:27,375 --> 00:40:29,505 And man, it just melted my heart. 784 00:40:29,865 --> 00:40:33,075 And I yelled at the mom, I said, that right there is what it's about. 785 00:40:33,885 --> 00:40:38,835 And the mom was cracking up, you know, but, um, what did you ask a question? 786 00:40:38,835 --> 00:40:40,305 Did I just go off on another? 787 00:40:41,076 --> 00:40:44,586 Andy: Well, I, I would just, I wanted to know your, yeah, well, I wanted to 788 00:40:44,586 --> 00:40:47,886 know like, what role do, do parents play 789 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,695 Mac: Oh, right, right, right, right, 790 00:40:48,756 --> 00:40:50,406 Andy: helping kids develop skills? 791 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,070 Mac: Right, right, right. 792 00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:55,850 So, you know, limit, of course, the devices and then be active, 793 00:40:56,090 --> 00:40:58,530 like with a show like Mr. Mustavio. 794 00:40:58,910 --> 00:40:59,450 Um. 795 00:41:00,260 --> 00:41:01,340 Help 'em plant something. 796 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,230 If, even if you don't have a, a backyard, you know, plant a tomato in a pot and 797 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:10,310 put it out in the sun and water it and talk about, you know, the cycle of life 798 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,570 from seed to medium to, uh, you know. 799 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,480 Uh, the, um, seedling and now it needs parental care, just like any baby. 800 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:25,820 We need to nurture this thing in order for it to develop and grow 801 00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:28,190 and to grow fruit and to bear fruit. 802 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,710 Um, and, and it requires, uh, work and, um, you know, and, and 803 00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:37,250 a little bit of discipline, uh, a little bit, a lot of patience. 804 00:41:37,850 --> 00:41:42,260 Um, but parents also, you know, um, uh. 805 00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:44,825 Be, be curious as well. 806 00:41:45,305 --> 00:41:48,185 I mean, don't just say, yeah, there's a birdie. 807 00:41:48,185 --> 00:41:49,895 You know, it's a birdie. 808 00:41:49,985 --> 00:41:50,705 It's not a birdie. 809 00:41:50,705 --> 00:41:51,665 First off, it's a bird. 810 00:41:51,965 --> 00:41:53,495 You know, don't be condescending to your kid. 811 00:41:53,765 --> 00:41:55,355 It's not a doggie, it's a dog. 812 00:41:55,445 --> 00:41:56,945 It's not a fishy, it's a fish. 813 00:41:57,605 --> 00:42:00,095 Um, you know, talk to your kids like they're human beings. 814 00:42:00,745 --> 00:42:01,165 Andy: Mm-hmm. 815 00:42:01,749 --> 00:42:02,859 Mac: At least your basics. 816 00:42:02,859 --> 00:42:06,189 You know, that's a blue jay robin, a cardinal, a ran, a chickadee, 817 00:42:06,189 --> 00:42:11,469 you know, a a, a morning dove, a pigeon crow, red tail hawk. 818 00:42:11,469 --> 00:42:14,709 You know, the common ones, the things that we all should know, 819 00:42:14,769 --> 00:42:16,269 the things that are everywhere. 820 00:42:16,659 --> 00:42:20,439 Just know those because it'll encourage that kid to say, when he sees something 821 00:42:20,439 --> 00:42:21,729 new, he says, that's not a blue jay. 822 00:42:21,939 --> 00:42:22,509 It's not a robin. 823 00:42:22,509 --> 00:42:23,289 It's not a cardinal. 824 00:42:23,619 --> 00:42:27,009 This one is black with a white. 825 00:42:27,744 --> 00:42:29,004 Red chest. 826 00:42:29,214 --> 00:42:30,054 So what is that? 827 00:42:30,144 --> 00:42:32,094 And it might get the parent going, you know what, let's look 828 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:32,640 Andy: Mm-hmm. 829 00:42:32,784 --> 00:42:33,804 Mac: Oh, here it is right here. 830 00:42:33,804 --> 00:42:35,304 It's a rose breasted grow beak. 831 00:42:35,604 --> 00:42:38,934 And then you find something out about that bird that's a migrator. 832 00:42:38,964 --> 00:42:41,904 You know, we're only gonna see those things in May, you know, or whatever. 833 00:42:41,904 --> 00:42:46,824 It's, um, but I, I, I think it, it'd be real good for parents too, to help 834 00:42:47,034 --> 00:42:50,789 parents interact on the most, um. 835 00:42:51,534 --> 00:42:54,624 On the simplest level, you know, and that's mother nature. 836 00:42:55,104 --> 00:42:58,464 You know, just be curious about what the earth has. 837 00:42:58,839 --> 00:43:00,069 And what it provides. 838 00:43:01,959 --> 00:43:07,749 There, there, there are some things that are gonna be tough for me to, um, because 839 00:43:07,749 --> 00:43:09,609 my demographic, I says four to eight. 840 00:43:10,029 --> 00:43:13,209 So, you know, a lot of people are talking about like survival skills and stuff. 841 00:43:13,209 --> 00:43:14,920 It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 842 00:43:15,309 --> 00:43:19,659 But, but I would like to talk to kids about stars for instance, but I don't 843 00:43:19,659 --> 00:43:25,029 have a camera that could, you know, capture the night sky, so I might. 844 00:43:25,614 --> 00:43:28,494 But I wanna start talking because we are of the stars. 845 00:43:28,494 --> 00:43:31,854 You know, we are people of the stars, and we should be curious and know 846 00:43:31,854 --> 00:43:35,154 what's, what's up in our heavens. 847 00:43:35,544 --> 00:43:38,154 Uh, at least general knowledge. 848 00:43:38,904 --> 00:43:42,324 General knowledge, you know, the, the, the, just the big constellations, 849 00:43:42,324 --> 00:43:45,234 man, you know, know what Orion is, know Ocasio P is, know what 850 00:43:45,234 --> 00:43:46,854 SSA major is, know what PLE is. 851 00:43:47,094 --> 00:43:47,934 You know, things like that. 852 00:43:48,234 --> 00:43:51,474 I mean, all par, all human beings should know that stuff. 853 00:43:52,359 --> 00:43:53,889 You know, we should, but we don't. 854 00:43:54,609 --> 00:43:58,149 I mean, I, I, I was at a thing, uh, a couple months ago where 855 00:43:58,179 --> 00:44:03,669 there was these adult men and, and, and the night sky, there was 856 00:44:03,669 --> 00:44:05,559 a very little, uh, light pollution. 857 00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:09,549 And I was talking about how great the stars looked, and I 858 00:44:09,549 --> 00:44:13,149 was saying, yeah, check out, you know, uh, Cassio, Pia tonight. 859 00:44:13,149 --> 00:44:18,129 And, um, and mentioning a couple stars, whatever, you know, Capella or whatever. 860 00:44:18,129 --> 00:44:19,179 It was serious. 861 00:44:19,659 --> 00:44:21,219 And they looked at me like. 862 00:44:22,944 --> 00:44:27,864 And I said A, a, a and I realized, oh man, they don't know a a any 863 00:44:27,864 --> 00:44:29,934 of the, the major constellations. 864 00:44:30,594 --> 00:44:31,674 These are adult men. 865 00:44:32,244 --> 00:44:36,414 And I, so I gave 'em a little, the easiest one I know was like finding 866 00:44:36,414 --> 00:44:37,974 the north two ways to find North Star. 867 00:44:39,174 --> 00:44:42,954 Two ways to find Polaris using either Ursa major or Cassio pia. 868 00:44:42,954 --> 00:44:44,694 So I said, that's Cassio, Pia right there. 869 00:44:44,694 --> 00:44:45,534 You can follow this down. 870 00:44:45,534 --> 00:44:46,194 Boom, boom, boom. 871 00:44:46,194 --> 00:44:49,194 And it also points to Vega, points to the Andromeda Galaxy. 872 00:44:49,344 --> 00:44:54,564 You know, it's a, it's a, it's a, uh, kind of a, a little roadmap, um, direction 873 00:44:54,564 --> 00:44:57,324 guide to the Sky and Ursa major using it. 874 00:44:57,324 --> 00:44:58,884 You could find this and that, and this and that. 875 00:44:59,304 --> 00:45:03,354 Um, but I, I, I, I think, you know, that's one of the things I want to 876 00:45:03,354 --> 00:45:06,624 talk about too, um, just to, for. 877 00:45:07,299 --> 00:45:12,609 I think it's important that we know how small we are and insignificant, 878 00:45:13,029 --> 00:45:15,009 you know, and that Wow, man. 879 00:45:15,009 --> 00:45:17,469 We should, we should, we should. 880 00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:27,429 Be curious and, and, and, um, you know, try to make ourselves as, as, uh, good as 881 00:45:27,429 --> 00:45:29,409 possible, as knowledgeable as possible. 882 00:45:29,409 --> 00:45:33,789 Because, because we're, we're min, we're minutia. 883 00:45:33,939 --> 00:45:35,769 You know, we're minutia. 884 00:45:35,769 --> 00:45:36,489 Make yourself count. 885 00:45:36,549 --> 00:45:37,239 Make yourself count. 886 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,279 Set yourself out for, you know, it's it. 887 00:45:39,909 --> 00:45:44,649 The other thing is, um, I think it's really, it's brave to be different. 888 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,180 Andy: Mm-hmm. 889 00:45:45,904 --> 00:45:48,249 Mac: And, and that's one of the things I want to talk about too. 890 00:45:48,249 --> 00:45:51,459 I'm gonna talk about being different, you know, being 891 00:45:51,459 --> 00:45:53,229 different and, and how it's cool. 892 00:45:53,229 --> 00:45:58,479 I mean, I don't look like people my age, you know, and I do a lot of things that 893 00:45:58,479 --> 00:46:00,459 are different, you know, a lot of things. 894 00:46:00,849 --> 00:46:02,289 Uh, but it makes us all unique. 895 00:46:02,289 --> 00:46:02,319 I. 896 00:46:02,665 --> 00:46:03,055 Andy: Right, 897 00:46:03,324 --> 00:46:07,614 Mac: Um, and I want to talk about that too, you know, like uniqueness, you 898 00:46:07,614 --> 00:46:13,464 know, um, I just gotta find palatable words that, you know, kids could digest. 899 00:46:13,884 --> 00:46:20,874 But, uh, yeah, I, I, it's, it's, um, there's, there's, I have so many ideas, 900 00:46:21,204 --> 00:46:24,834 um, on where and how to take this. 901 00:46:25,224 --> 00:46:27,804 Uh, and, and I'm looking forward to the journey. 902 00:46:28,945 --> 00:46:29,875 Andy: Absolutely, man. 903 00:46:29,905 --> 00:46:30,475 That's awesome. 904 00:46:30,535 --> 00:46:34,405 I can, I can tell your passion by one watching the show, but two, 905 00:46:34,405 --> 00:46:37,435 just hearing you talk about it and how excited you are to do future 906 00:46:37,435 --> 00:46:42,505 episodes and, um, tell everybody who's listening, where can they find Mr. 907 00:46:42,505 --> 00:46:44,755 Mustavio and what they can expect. 908 00:46:44,755 --> 00:46:46,085 Mac: Find it on a number of places. 909 00:46:46,225 --> 00:46:48,205 So, uh, my, I have, uh. 910 00:46:49,135 --> 00:46:50,305 An Instagram account. 911 00:46:50,605 --> 00:46:53,485 Uh, and a lot of people know that, so it's TMacs Inc. But there's 912 00:46:53,485 --> 00:46:55,195 a, a link tree off of that. 913 00:46:56,275 --> 00:47:00,985 But Mr. Mustavio has his own Instagram account too 914 00:47:01,071 --> 00:47:01,491 Andy: Mm-hmm. 915 00:47:01,885 --> 00:47:06,645 Mac: at Mr. Mustavio, M-R-M-U-S-T-A-V-I-O. 916 00:47:07,465 --> 00:47:11,935 Uh, and then it's got its own YouTube Cham channel. 917 00:47:12,265 --> 00:47:12,595 Mr. 918 00:47:12,595 --> 00:47:13,975 Mustavio's a world of wonder. 919 00:47:14,035 --> 00:47:18,025 You know where it's cool to be curious. 920 00:47:19,285 --> 00:47:23,395 Uh, so it's on, it's on several different platforms, you know, several 921 00:47:23,395 --> 00:47:30,535 different platforms and, um, I'm all about, uh, I am not adverse either 922 00:47:30,535 --> 00:47:33,330 to those listening for suggestions. 923 00:47:34,405 --> 00:47:37,375 Or volunteer work on it. 924 00:47:37,885 --> 00:47:41,545 You know, if they have something in, if they're in my neck of the woods 925 00:47:41,725 --> 00:47:46,825 and they have something unique, you know, that, uh, I could share on Mr. 926 00:47:46,825 --> 00:47:48,475 Mustavio, I'll be there, 927 00:47:49,166 --> 00:47:50,076 Andy: That is awesome man.. 928 00:47:50,125 --> 00:47:51,985 Mac: uh, yeah, to check it out. 929 00:47:52,435 --> 00:47:54,040 Um, but, uh. 930 00:47:55,045 --> 00:47:55,525 Yeah, man. 931 00:47:55,585 --> 00:47:57,295 Um, I am, I am excited. 932 00:47:57,535 --> 00:48:05,545 I, and, and already just because of the feedback I've gotten from parents, like, 933 00:48:05,545 --> 00:48:09,085 they'll show me pictures of their kids doing exercises, you know, in the living 934 00:48:09,085 --> 00:48:18,445 room, you know, bouncing on one foot or um, um, a lot of parents tell me the first 935 00:48:18,445 --> 00:48:22,225 thing their kids wanna do now is take their shoes off and walk in the grass. 936 00:48:22,511 --> 00:48:22,721 Andy: Good. 937 00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:26,170 Mac: So I think that, you know, that connection with Mother Earth is so 938 00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:30,725 important that grounding that earthing, you know, put your feet on the earth. 939 00:48:32,245 --> 00:48:37,525 Instead of, uh, uh, having a, a cushioned made in China, rubber sole 940 00:48:37,525 --> 00:48:41,515 between you and the earth, you know, put your feet on the earth bare feet. 941 00:48:42,475 --> 00:48:42,745 Yeah. 942 00:48:43,075 --> 00:48:46,195 So, yeah, it's been, it's been really cool, you know, and I appreciate 943 00:48:46,465 --> 00:48:53,305 all of the support from those who have, uh, assisted, uh, those who, 944 00:48:53,485 --> 00:48:59,185 um, get, have given me ideas and to, uh, team or tease for their editing. 945 00:49:00,611 --> 00:49:01,331 Andy: That is awesome. 946 00:49:01,661 --> 00:49:03,461 Hey man, I, I appreciate your time. 947 00:49:03,491 --> 00:49:05,471 You know, best of luck in doing this. 948 00:49:05,471 --> 00:49:09,551 I want you to be successful at this 'cause I want you to share what you, 949 00:49:09,551 --> 00:49:13,091 what you know of nature with kids and help inspire the next generation. 950 00:49:13,091 --> 00:49:16,661 That is, that is very much on brand for you sir and I appreciate that. 951 00:49:17,695 --> 00:49:18,325 Mac: Right on. 952 00:49:18,385 --> 00:49:18,775 Thank you. 953 00:49:18,775 --> 00:49:21,775 And thank you for having me here and thanks everybody who's listening. 954 00:49:23,274 --> 00:49:27,084 Andy: A friend of mine gave me 43 used gift cards that was part 955 00:49:27,084 --> 00:49:32,334 of a phone scam that totaled $63,000 stolen from his sister. 956 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:35,799 It's happening increasingly to good, smart people. 957 00:49:35,949 --> 00:49:39,729 But here's the good news, you can protect yourself and your family. 958 00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,779 OmniWatch is a scam and identity protection service that monitors your 959 00:49:43,779 --> 00:49:48,429 data, alerts you to threats and 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