Hey, everybody, welcome to Geek Freaks.
I am Frank, and today I'm with Lenore Zann.
How are you doing, Lenore?
I'm great.
Thank you very much.
I've got my first coffee of the day,
so I'm feeling pretty good.
The first one for the day. Yeah.
That's brave of you.
I like that.
Keeps me running.
And it's like, 3:00 in the afternoon.
Yeah.
So if you guys haven't already, obviously, realized so far,
this is the voice of rogue, and you have so many other things you do.
But I think, obviously, the voice of rogue is what everybody, knows you as.
Yeah.
And when you when you first approached rogue, you got that call and you saw AI,
you had some testing before where you went in
and you saw an image of rogue, and you saw a sassy attitude,
and you've come back to rogue with X-Men 97.
Has anything been added to that sassy attitude you think over the years?
Well, I think I've got just as sassy an attitude as I always did.
Sugar.
Especially
after having been in politics for 12 years.
Like leaving acting
and going into politics and being a an elected official in Canada.
You know, like a congresswoman, for 12 years,
four terms in office tends to make you a little sassy.
Yeah.
You a hero on multiple fronts in that case.
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
Their take no prisoners.
Take no prisoners? Heck, no. What?
What is it about about rogue that really appeals to you?
I think one of the things that,
I think a lot of people see in their role models her strength and how she's able
to surpass these mutant effects on her and and actually embrace them as her own.
What is it that you take from her?
Yeah.
I mean, she's a complex character, and I've always loved complex characters.
She has many different layers to her.
Of course, she has the strength, the super strength.
She's loyal to her friends most of the time,
unless she feels that they have somehow left her in the lurch.
Like when, you know, episode after episode five, she feels that professor
X really betrayed them by going off and leaving them on their own.
But she is somebody with her heart on her sleeve
who will put her life on the line not only for her friends,
but for people who do not have the strength to look out for themselves.
She's a real social justice warrior,
and I love that about her.
She's also very vulnerable.
She would love to be in love.
She would love to have a normal, regular relationship
with somebody, most likely with Remy.
But she can't because she knows that if she lets her guard down
and allows herself to get intimate
with them, she'll probably kill them.
And there's nothing worse than being afraid of killing the one that you love.
So she therefore develops this really suit of armor,
really, that she rarely lets down.
And so it's
very interesting when we get to see her,
let that guard down and cry and lose it
and then go on, on a on a rampage, you know, when, when
when rogue goes rogue because she wants to get vengeance and justice for Remy.
We see all these different sides of her.
And I think that that's just an amazing character to play.
It's got to be it's such a complex character.
And now the surface level of just the strongest woman on Earth.
And then all of that vulnerability. Right underneath it.
How do you try to address that when your voice acting?
How do you try to add that so that people could to read that, through the screen?
Well, you know, I always say that voice acting is acting.
So if you want to be a, a good, a really
great voice actor, take acting classes, go into theater,
do as many plays, movies, television, whatever that you can do
before you even attempt to do voice work.
So I started off in theater, and as you know, you've read my book.
I mean, I started acting in theater when I was 15,
became professional at 17
and was a cast to play a starring
role in a rock opera on the life of Marilyn
Monroe at the age of 19.
And then my career took off after that, and I started doing movies and television
and all kinds of other plays all around the world.
So by the time I actually was asked to do a voiceover,
I won an award in Canada for my first, radio drama.
It was my first voice job, playing a character called Mary
Snow in Salt Water Moon, which was a play by David French.
And I won Best Actress across Canada for that.
I was 26, and then, X-Men
was only the second animated series that I ever did.
And so, you know, I put all of my passion, everything,
all of my life experiences, all of my different emotions into my performance.
And I have a voice, probably because I did start off as a singer.
That can really change and I can put little nuances into it
that will make people feel their feelings and open up their hearts
and cry or laugh or despair.
And and that's something that I feel is,
is a gift that I, that I have that I was given.
I was born with it.
I've honed it over the years, you know, being able to control your emotions.
So, yeah.
So that you don't let them all out in real life, you know?
So if you're angry and you got lots of anger,
I prefer to put it into my performances rather than getting angry at people.
I'd rather stay calm.
I take Buddhist classes, I meditate every day.
I walk in the forest, and I just feel
that I'd rather be peaceful and calm and loving and kind in my real life,
and save all of my passion and energy for my performances.
Which is so, so real.
That's wonderful. Thank you. Yeah.
There's something about like, you were saying those nuances
when she does, like lead the team or little moments like that
that we've seen time and time
again, it's hard because a lot of times when I read rogue in comic books,
it's your voice. So it's hard to write.
This is what you actually did versus what I heard when I was reading it.
I've been living in your head rent free for 30 years.
Exactly, exactly.
So it is kind of, tricky because it's almost like this
childlike innocence where you're just like, she's mad.
She's got every reason to be mad on her side of it.
But also, you're just, like, disappointed in you are the best for her.
The very complicated situation whenever you're reading rogue.
Yeah.
And the other thing I like to try and tell fans
who sometimes ask me, why did she she betrayed the X-Men
by going over to Magneto after,
you know, after Janelle and I say to them,
she's traumatized.
She just witnessed
a huge genocide all around her.
Of all of the people, her people, people that she loved.
Her friends, including her, two of her loves.
And she she feels
probably some survivor's guilt, too.
And the fact that she never got the chance to actually say to Remi
while he was alive, oh, honey,
sugar, some things are deeper than skin.
She says it to Magneto when they kiss,
and he thinks she's going to come with him and be his queen.
But she pulls away and she repeats what
Remy said to her, which was, you know, he says, thanks to the dance, sugar.
But Remy was right.
Some things are deeper than skin.
I love that, I just love that.
Yeah, I threw that line in there in the recording session.
Did you let me. They let me keep it. Yeah.
I thought, why shouldn't he repeat what what he had said to her?
Because she suddenly realizes, yeah, it's not all about feeling and touch and sex.
It's about love. Deep, deep love.
Which I think Marvel Rivals is doing a good job
with their advertisement of showing that that there's this love
between the two that they worked so well together. And stuff.
Oh, it's amazing, isn't it?
That is really giving the fans some wonderful
candy to chew on their lovemaking.
Yeah,
he's dead in one universe, but they're getting married in another.
So AJ is staying real quiet about that.
By the way, we've begged him a few times like,
come on, AJ, we know that you recorded for season two.
You could tell us, but he's been real quiet.
He's been good about it.
We appreciate it. Yeah.
And another thing, just to kind of touch on that one more time,
when she goes with Magneto, I think it's the simpler option.
I think when you were an X-Men, it's asking you to be to think
very, Let's see.
Gray, you can't think black and white.
And Magneto just gives you the black and white.
He gives you solutions when nobody else does.
And so for somebody who's gone through so much trauma and chaos,
the simple solutions right there, he's going to give you the answers.
Just go so and.
And she's also thinking of her people.
He's giving
her the opportunity like I had to say.
Would you like to be part of the government
and help decide the future of our people?
How do we make life better for everybody?
How do we protect everyone?
How do we make it so that people can be living with one another in peace
and harmony instead of constant wars and trying to kill other people?
And I think that that is very, very tempting for her.
She would love to be able to be part of that,
which is another reason why she agrees to go with him.
Yeah.
Such a great character.
And then, yeah, a lot of people are experiencing your a new in Marvel rivals.
How is that changed when you're the voice actor
behind Marvel Rivals and it's a video game format?
How are you changing how you're approaching rogue?
It's not really any different.
It's it's still rogue.
It's still me, sugar.
I'm just, I do a lot more fighting and,
you know, teasing and, you know, feeling.
I put some of my my own Eleanor rogue
nuances into my lines, like, you know, I'm feeling a little touchy today.
You know, that is.
That is pure Linares, and I, what can I say?
I do stuff like that with my voice and with enacting,
and I'll make take pauses where they're not written
and turn it into something that is my own.
And it's so much fun.
And they're letting me do that, which is great.
I love I love working with them.
Yeah.
And I love, I love being in part of Marvel Rivals.
And the team is so beautiful.
They're really nice people to work with.
We are going to be having a special event on, I think it's March the 3rd
at the El Capitan, Theater in Los Angeles, and tickets are free.
There's going to be panels and, they can make announcements
and any who's going to be there
make some announcements about what the future of the game.
So I'm really looking forward to that because of then I'll get to see everybody
second down.
If you can still get a ticket.
Yeah you got to check it out.
Marvel rivals is kind of a who's who in the acting world.
If you look at it like IMDb page, you really see some legends in there.
It's really fun.
I love it.
Is really great.
I get to meet them at different comic cons and we just love it.
Like, I missed Josh Keaton for the first time recently
and it's like, you know, he was my Captain America.
Yeah. We just we just have a blast.
They're just really good people.
I met Steve Blum for the first time recently because,
of course, normally I'm working with Cal Dot as, as Wolverine.
And so I met Steve Blum recently, too.
And what a lovely man he is too.
So it's great.
It's a really great, really great crew.
Looking at the comic books, the source material, one of the things going on
right now and uncanny X-Men fantastic run, which you guys are checking that out.
Rogue is the leader of the X-Men.
What about rogue makes her a good leader?
What are you hoping that that you could kind of some time, maybe.
Maybe in 97, rogue could take the front.
What do you want to see out of that?
You know, I think that once rogue
comes down after the whole, genocide
and dealing with her emotions
about what happened with Remy and with Magneto two, really?
She thought she lost both of them at one point.
I think rogue would make a great leader.
She she thinks quickly.
She's not afraid of danger, but she doesn't want to put her, her
her friends and her her companions in danger.
She would put herself in danger before she puts anyone else in danger.
She's not going to, like, send someone else to go check it out.
She would go check it out herself.
So I think that as she gains
more and more experience at being able to come and control
her own powerful energy,
she'll be a leader that, is unmatched.
Yeah.
One of the things about Rogue Two that I think she might be the best at it,
and maybe why her and Remy work so well together is she's compassionate.
She's been the most outside of the outside X-Men.
And so when a teenager comes to the school needing help,
I can't think of a better person to reach out first.
You know exactly. I would love to see that.
Exactly.
And really, you know, she has no children of her own.
So really, the kids of the school, they are her children and all these.
Yeah, these mutant kids, they are her kids.
And she wants to protect them.
Yeah, that's pretty wonderful.
It's such a great role model.
Speaking of her as a role model,
unfortunately, and you had mentioned it in your memoir,
please make sure you guys check that out.
Women are currently under attack, the LGBTQ community
under attack, many different minority groups.
What is it that you're hoping that they can see in rogue, especially, like,
I think women?
I think she's such a wonderful role model for everyone, including women.
What do you think?
I think that people right now
are so angry, disappointed,
shamed.
They were promised many, many things
by governments over the years that have not come to fruition.
That whole white picket fence, the whole thing
of when back in the 90s, the 1940s and 50s,
when people could have like one job per family and have five kids and
and that paid for everything, that is no longer the case.
Many, many people have to work 2 or 3 jobs
just to get by.
So I think there's a deep rage there.
I think there is a deep resentment there.
And the easiest way for people to deal
with all of that anger and resentment
is to take it out on others,
instead of taking the time
to do the work on themselves, to dig, to take off
all the layers of the onion and say, well, what's under that?
Why am I angry about that?
Well, what else am I angry about? Well, where did that start?
What happened when I was a kid?
You know, I'm an alcoholic who's sober.
I have 30 years of sobriety this April.
And in and in 12 step programs, they say
you need to peel all the layers off and you need to go deep.
And underneath all of that resentment and rage and fear, well,
and underneath the rage and resentment is fear.
And underneath the fear is grief.
It's sadness.
It's a deep, deep grief.
And I think that rogue in episode five,
I was able to help people
feel that deep grief that was underneath everything.
When Remy dies and when she says, oh, sugar,
I, I can't feel you.
And it just broke people open
and I think that that's so important to realize that
that's where a lot of this us and them, and I'm mad at them and I don't like them.
And all this hatred and bigotry comes from and rogue is all about,
hey, man, we're all in this together.
What, you no different for me
if you got green skin, blue skin, purple hair, I don't care.
I will save you because we're all in this together.
And it's our differences that make us stronger.
And as she says in The Cure, which was an original
in the original series, there's an episode called The Cure
where rogue goes to Muriel and to try and get rid of her superpowers
because she wants to just be, quote unquote, normal.
And at the end of that episode, she realizes, oh, actually,
she says, I reckon I am my powers
and the good they can do, and I reckon I can live with that.
There ain't no cure for who you are. There's
literally wrote that quote down.
It's one of my favorites, and I think it's something
that everybody needs to keep on their heart.
It's such a good line.
Yeah, I love that.
If I could help the world to learn how to love
not only one another, but to love themselves,
I would be so happy.
I would be so happy to try and help make people
heal their own deep, deep traumas.
Because I think that's what part of the problem is right now.
Well, in Outside of rogue, you're a hero in many fronts.
And, one of the things I want to make sure to mention
is your work, in Canadian politics, especially with your bill originally.
See 30 eventually, see 2 to 6, for environmental racism.
And one of the things I really appreciate about you pushing this is,
I think it was probably a term lesser known to many people,
probably with the privilege of not knowing that term.
And with you sharing it, I
it brought it to the forefront where people could actually look into it.
And in 2024, it passed.
So I mean, how wonderful. Yeah,
it's like the law in Canada now
because, you know, we all I think if you think about it,
there are many, many places all across the world, really,
not just in Canada or even just, in America, where corporations,
governments, have put, polluting,
and they've put polluting factories
or dumps or waste sites or whatever,
where all of this pollution seeps down into the water system,
and then all of the people who live around there,
they're breathing in the fumes, they're drinking water.
That is polluted.
And, I mean, you just have to look at Flint,
Michigan, with the with the mercury and or lead.
And so people who are of color
black, brown, indigenous people, people who are not white,
they're the ones who bear the brunt of it, usually because their communities is
where most of the governments and corporations put these polluting,
systems, and therefore their health outcomes are different from ours.
And I just feel as rogue and as myself.
That's unfair.
And I wanted to do something about it.
So I introduced a bill that would that would bring it
to the forefront and make a change in Canada, at least.
It's it's wonderful.
And again, even even outside of Canada, just the fact
that it brought attention to something like that, that I think. Yeah. Yeah.
You don't want people to know about this.
Yeah, exactly.
Thank you, thank you. Now, of course, of course.
You also have your book, A Rogues Tale.
And I want to make sure you guys check out the audio book.
It's read by Lenore herself. And it was.
One of the things I want to point out real quick is,
really well read.
But there's a part where you're doing the nursery rhyme, and I'm like,
if I was reading this, I wouldn't have gotten the nursery rhyme in your voice.
And it's best to have with your voice.
Right, right, right.
And in my voice, I was kind of doing my grandmother's voice, too.
Yeah. You know, you could feel it.
Yeah, that was what I was I was, I was emanating my grandmother mum emotional.
I miss her to this day.
She lived to be 97.
She was my best friend for so many years.
And, she's the one who first got me interested in mythology
and, like, the hero's journey.
And, I think that's what also got me
very interested in these types of, you know, sword and sorcery magic.
The the Narnia in adventures, the Chronicles
of Narnia, Lord of the rings, all those kinds of things.
And then of course, our X-Men, it's like we're kind of like the modern
myths, really. We are.
We are modern heroes, of mythology
for a whole new generation of kids and adults.
Yeah.
And, and I think for a lot of people who see, like,
the old mythology compared to today's mythology with the X-Men and Ironman
and the like, it's sometimes it's easier to take some of our baser instincts,
the basic lessons we need to teach ourselves
and personify them on something, above us or out
of true, extraordinary to understand that. Yes.
And and really, when you look into myths, I mean, they, they,
they are repeated throughout cultures around the world.
And they keep coming back.
They keep coming back.
They keep being brought up in all kinds of stories
for like thousands of years.
So, yeah, you know, actors are storytellers
and human beings love stories.
And I think that's what keeps them coming to something like X-Men,
because they want to know what what's going to happen with the story.
They're just they're following the story.
And because it is sort of mythological
based, it's almost in our DNA that we it
kind of reminds us of stuff from eons ago.
Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it lasts how long?
Because it is just part of human nature, too.
Yeah.
Let your rogues example
be unsure of yourself needing to find a home
and safety outside of, you know, where you're born and all these things.
It's just like you'll find a piece of rogue.
You might not be as strong as her physically,
but you can be as strong as are emotionally.
You can.
And I love it that many fans tell me that when they're going through
hard times and over the years when they've gone through hard times,
they think of rogue and they think of what would rogue tell me in this moment?
What would rogue say? What would rogue do?
And they say, Lenore, it's like you're right there with me.
And this is when people have different, terrible traumas
that have happened to them in their lives.
And I say, oh my God, I'm so honored that
I can still be helping people when I'm not even like
they're physically and I'm not even aware that it's happening.
But if anything, that they can get from my performance and from the stories
that will help them through something difficult that they're dealing
with, then I can die a happy person.
Well,
you've done so many great things in, let alone the fact that, like I said,
every time I crack open an X-Men book, it's been your voice for 30 years.
So it'll continue to be that way.
Well, thank you so much.
Yeah, I think there's going to be quite a few more to come.
So yeah.
Hold on to your horses, folks.
We're in for a wild ride.
To close this out, I thought I would do a few lightning
round questions if you're up for that, but just kind of close things up for us.
What?
What other character or other role
would you like to play in a completely different franchise?
Well, I mean, I would love to do any kind of
mythological or space like mythological character, you know, a queen
or a gladiator or,
you know, somebody who is powerful, either good or evil.
I love playing evil characters too.
And I had one that was in, she was called Master is in
Storm Hawks, and she wanted to take over the world.
She was fabulous.
I also played the mummy's girlfriend, a knock soon woman
in the animated series The Mummy opposite Jim Cummings.
And she was evil too, because she he brought her back to life.
And then she wanted to kill him and take over the world.
Let that seems to be a theme here.
Going on.
But I love those kinds of characters.
And I want to do more on camera stuff.
I am doing some.
I've got one show that's out on Peacock right now, called revival.
I have a recurring role in that.
I am developing my book into a film,
and while I would not play myself
in it, I would use a much younger actress for that.
I'd love yet.
Florence Pugh.
Florence Pugh would be a fabulous young me.
But there is a role of her, her older cousin that I could play.
And I have my, my, my music coming out, too.
I have, songs that I've written.
So I've got three, three albums that I'll be releasing over the next
while, a trilogy of albums and,
yeah, I'm I'm up for anything, really.
A few people are reaching out to me
about some film roles right now, so we'll see where that goes.
But I'm open for business and I'll go anywhere because I'm up for an adventure.
When you said mythology right away is Athena would be perfect for you.
That would be a great yes.
Yeah.
What is a director's note that you'll never forget?
Oh my goodness.
Well, in the book, there's one passage where I talk about this director
who directed me as Marilyn Monroe
in the rock opera of Marilyn Monroe.
Do you have you got to that part yet?
I have, yes, yes, yes.
And this guy was much older than me.
I was 19, I turned 20 during the the course of the show.
He was probably in his late 60s and he and
his wife was pregnant upstairs in the building that I was staying at.
And he started coming on to me sexually,
and calling me and saying all kinds of inappropriate things
and inviting me down to the swimming pool and trying to like grape me and, oh, me.
It was awful. Yeah. And
I said, no, I mean, I
really stood up for myself and said, look, I'm sorry, this is just business.
I'm 19.
I have this huge starring role where I have
to put all my energy into being Marilyn Monroe.
The newspapers are saying, well, will this young, unknown 19
year old be able to play the great Marilyn Monroe?
I mean, there was a lot of pressure,
and so he punished me
by not directing me, not giving me any blocking
so that I was basically just left to my own devices.
And he said he made an announcement, said, all right.
People like, don't worry if we haven't blocked your scenes yet, don't worry.
Just just stand and sing because it was a rock opera.
We'll get to you eventually before, you know, opening night.
So I was standing there singing.
And then at the end of this one rehearsal, we're getting towards
the end, you know, we're getting close to the previews.
And he called everybody out on stage.
He put big lights up on stage.
He was out in the like 1000 seat auditorium in the dark
with a big megaphone.
And he went through the show and then he said, now, Lenore,
would you come out here in the middle of the stage, please?
And then I'm standing in the middle
of the stage by myself with all the lights and everybody's around me.
The orchestra's down there.
Back when we had orchestras who played for musicals, and he said,
Eleanor, are you just going to stand there like a block of wood?
Aren't you gonna move around or anything?
And I said, well,
you said that if you hadn't gotten to the scenes to just
stand and and sing, and I kind of started to get a little teary eyed.
And then he goes,
and this is what I'll never forget goes, listen, sweetheart,
if Liza minnelli was here, she'd be telling me
what to do.
What would a jackass.
I mean, he humiliated me in front of everybody.
So what I did was I turned around on my heels,
and I kept my tears in, and I turned around,
and I walked off stage because I'd seen it done in some movies or something.
It was like, I've seen it in a movie somewhere, you know?
And I walked off stage and then I went home to the house
where I was staying, where his wife was pregnant, upstairs in the same building.
And I went through the entire script and I, I blocked every single scene myself.
And then I came in the next day and I went from dressing room
to dressing room, and I told the cast, I said they were like, oh my God, Lenore,
why is he treating you like this?
What is going on?
I hadn't told anybody what he was doing.
I didn't know, I didn't even have an agent at the time.
I said, listen, don't worry about that, but do me a favor.
Today.
Marilyn is going to move,
so please just move with her.
And they were like, yes, we'll do whatever it takes.
You just come out and you do your thing.
We'll work around.
It will work with you. I would thank you so much.
And then I went in my dressing room and I put the the sequin gown
and the wig and the makeup on
and the earrings and I came out, and I was
Marilyn Monroe, and I did that hope elements.
And at the end of it, he came up on stage with tears
streaming down his face, and he hugged me in front of everybody.
And that was a brilliant performance, my dear.
That's the performance you're going to be doing for opening night.
And when I came out on opening night, when I came out on stage
at the end of the curtain curtain call, when I came at last,
the whole audience jumped to their feet and gave me a standing ovation.
And they never knew what I'd done to get to that point.
And I never told anybody until I wrote my book last year.
Yeah, I got guys got to get that memoir.
I'm at the beginning part of that,
so I didn't know the twist ending, and I'm excited to get to that part now.
Sorry to spoil it for you.
Dope.
Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait.
Yeah. Until we good.
Never forget that one.
But you know what it did?
Imagine it toughened me up in one sense.
I mean, it's terrible. No director should teach.
Should treat an actor like that.
It's inexcusable.
But what it did was it gave me confidence that, hey, you know what?
If someone's not going
to give me any direction and they're not going to help me in any way,
I'm okay.
I can do it on my own, you know?
Yeah.
So it gave me confidence for the rest of my life.
Really?
That. Yeah. Worst case.
Worst case scenario. Yeah.
I can do whatever I need to do to make it work.
The line you said if you just changed it to your name, well,
the number is going to move. Just move with her.
That's the line right there.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Last question for you.
What is a role that you want more people to be asking you about.
A role that I want people to ask me about.
Yeah.
Everybody I know comes up to you wanting to know more about ROG.
But what's that role that you wish
that they were really curious about outside of me?
To be honest, I never get tired of talking about ROG.
A lot of people want to talk to me about, Asia
clan, clan in Outlaw Star, which is an anime,
and it was one of the first animes and it was my first anime.
Wendy Lee directed it and I did it in Los Angeles.
I think it was in like 2000 or 2002 or something like that.
And she is also she has super strength and she also her
hair colors are green and gold, but she's this strange little creature
with funny ears and little funny teeth, and she can turn into a huge,
gigantic tiger woman when she's either angry or when she eats.
And she can eat a lot.
And, she's hilarious.
She's really funny.
So if you haven't seen Outlaw Star yet, try and get a hold of it.
There are, there are DVD copies.
There's some Blu ray copies.
I don't know if it's playing anywhere right now, but you can see it on YouTube.
Outlaw star.
I will fund that and make sure to share it. That is one.
Yeah, you. You'll enjoy it.
And once you know that it's my voice, once you then you'll go, oh yeah, of course.
Why did I not see that before?
I got it, All right.
So everybody, I want to make sure you guys are heading
to the description in the podcast. Right now.
We're gonna be checking out a rogue's tail.
The audiobook is fantastic. If not, make sure you pick up the paperback.
We have a new film in the works.
We have a new album coming soon.
How long should we be waiting for that album?
It's going to be in the next, I would say five months,
because I'd like to have one of them come out before season two.
So one of them will come out before season two in the summer.
And I'm also, to be honest, working on a, I'm working on an animated, series
that I'm developing based on my father's children's books.
And my father passed away a couple of years ago.
I talk about that in the book later on.
I won't ruin it for you, but he basically handed me his mantle
and I said, could I write more of your Aussie six books about these
little Australian Australian animals that go on adventures around the world?
He said yes.
And, so, not only am I going to be writing more of the books for children,
but I'm going to be turning it into an animated series,
so that's a lot of fun to, yeah, that is there's a lot going on.
Yeah. Keep his legacy alive.
Yes. And creating a legacy for yourself,
for others to follow as well, which is very important as well.
All the links in the description, guys,
make sure you follow up, including following Lenore on social media.
Really great. Instagram. I'll throw that out there at the last minute.
Thank you. It's a good it's a great.
Yeah.
You never know what I'm going to throw up on there right.
It's fun.
You know. And all the different outfits.
Yeah.
And you're all over the place. Do you like this Comic-Con over there?
And that Comic-Con over there, like, oh, I wish I was in the area.
I know, I know.
Yeah,
yeah.
I get to be like a little girl again.
One of my favorite things to do when I was a little girl was dress up.
So that's why I think cosplayers and I
have a lot in common, because we all love to dress up
and make things and, you know, and give each other's inspiration.
So I love the cosplay community.
Oh me too. Their dedication to their passion.
It's yeah, it's a lot of fun.
They are so talented.
Yeah. Amazing. Yeah.
It's incredible.
Lenore, I want to thank you so much for joining me today.
It's been a blast. Appreciate it. Yeah.
You too, my friend.
And, I will see you sometime at some Comic-Con somewhere.
I'm sure. I'm sure.
Yeah. Okay.
I know you've met my co-host who was supposed to be, with you today.
Thomas. This is his description. He's got the metal hand.
He says he's seen you a few times at Comic-Con
and just absolutely loves talking to you every day.
Very cool.
Okay, well, I'll be seeing you guys.
Yeah. Sayonara.
See you there.
All right, everybody, make sure you guys follow
the links in description, and I'll see you on the next one.
Bye bye.