1 00:00:00,467 --> 00:00:01,534 Hey, everybody, welcome to Geek Freaks. 2 00:00:01,534 --> 00:00:04,270 I am Frank, and today I'm with Lenore Zann. 3 00:00:04,270 --> 00:00:06,473 How are you doing, Lenore? 4 00:00:06,473 --> 00:00:07,007 I'm great. 5 00:00:07,007 --> 00:00:07,807 Thank you very much. 6 00:00:07,807 --> 00:00:10,710 I've got my first coffee of the day, 7 00:00:10,710 --> 00:00:13,713 so I'm feeling pretty good. 8 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:14,948 The first one for the day. Yeah. 9 00:00:14,948 --> 00:00:15,749 That's brave of you. 10 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:16,816 I like that. 11 00:00:16,816 --> 00:00:19,452 Keeps me running. 12 00:00:19,452 --> 00:00:22,422 And it's like, 3:00 in the afternoon. 13 00:00:22,422 --> 00:00:25,425 Yeah. 14 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:28,762 So if you guys haven't already, obviously, realized so far, 15 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:32,198 this is the voice of rogue, and you have so many other things you do. 16 00:00:32,198 --> 00:00:35,535 But I think, obviously, the voice of rogue is what everybody, knows you as. 17 00:00:35,802 --> 00:00:36,436 Yeah. 18 00:00:36,436 --> 00:00:42,242 And when you when you first approached rogue, you got that call and you saw AI, 19 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:44,677 you had some testing before where you went in 20 00:00:44,677 --> 00:00:47,480 and you saw an image of rogue, and you saw a sassy attitude, 21 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:51,017 and you've come back to rogue with X-Men 97. 22 00:00:51,651 --> 00:00:54,721 Has anything been added to that sassy attitude you think over the years? 23 00:00:55,455 --> 00:00:58,992 Well, I think I've got just as sassy an attitude as I always did. 24 00:00:58,992 --> 00:00:59,426 Sugar. 25 00:01:02,395 --> 00:01:03,596 Especially 26 00:01:03,596 --> 00:01:07,801 after having been in politics for 12 years. 27 00:01:07,801 --> 00:01:09,035 Like leaving acting 28 00:01:09,035 --> 00:01:13,840 and going into politics and being a an elected official in Canada. 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,111 You know, like a congresswoman, for 12 years, 30 00:01:18,111 --> 00:01:21,147 four terms in office tends to make you a little sassy. 31 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:22,816 Yeah. 32 00:01:22,816 --> 00:01:25,819 You a hero on multiple fronts in that case. 33 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:27,153 Yeah, it's pretty incredible. 34 00:01:27,153 --> 00:01:30,056 Their take no prisoners. 35 00:01:30,056 --> 00:01:32,325 Take no prisoners? Heck, no. What? 36 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:35,395 What is it about about rogue that really appeals to you? 37 00:01:35,395 --> 00:01:36,496 I think one of the things that, 38 00:01:36,496 --> 00:01:40,233 I think a lot of people see in their role models her strength and how she's able 39 00:01:40,233 --> 00:01:44,003 to surpass these mutant effects on her and and actually embrace them as her own. 40 00:01:44,070 --> 00:01:45,438 What is it that you take from her? 41 00:01:46,739 --> 00:01:47,273 Yeah. 42 00:01:47,273 --> 00:01:52,712 I mean, she's a complex character, and I've always loved complex characters. 43 00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:56,149 She has many different layers to her. 44 00:01:56,149 --> 00:01:58,685 Of course, she has the strength, the super strength. 45 00:01:58,685 --> 00:02:02,255 She's loyal to her friends most of the time, 46 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:06,159 unless she feels that they have somehow left her in the lurch. 47 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:11,030 Like when, you know, episode after episode five, she feels that professor 48 00:02:11,030 --> 00:02:15,201 X really betrayed them by going off and leaving them on their own. 49 00:02:16,202 --> 00:02:19,973 But she is somebody with her heart on her sleeve 50 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:24,844 who will put her life on the line not only for her friends, 51 00:02:25,278 --> 00:02:30,316 but for people who do not have the strength to look out for themselves. 52 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:33,720 She's a real social justice warrior, 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,356 and I love that about her. 54 00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:39,359 She's also very vulnerable. 55 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:42,095 She would love to be in love. 56 00:02:42,095 --> 00:02:46,466 She would love to have a normal, regular relationship 57 00:02:46,466 --> 00:02:49,502 with somebody, most likely with Remy. 58 00:02:50,336 --> 00:02:54,908 But she can't because she knows that if she lets her guard down 59 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:58,711 and allows herself to get intimate 60 00:02:58,711 --> 00:03:01,848 with them, she'll probably kill them. 61 00:03:02,549 --> 00:03:07,520 And there's nothing worse than being afraid of killing the one that you love. 62 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:11,724 So she therefore develops this really suit of armor, 63 00:03:11,891 --> 00:03:14,727 really, that she rarely lets down. 64 00:03:15,795 --> 00:03:16,396 And so it's 65 00:03:16,396 --> 00:03:19,399 very interesting when we get to see her, 66 00:03:19,566 --> 00:03:23,870 let that guard down and cry and lose it 67 00:03:24,270 --> 00:03:29,509 and then go on, on a on a rampage, you know, when, when 68 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:34,514 when rogue goes rogue because she wants to get vengeance and justice for Remy. 69 00:03:34,914 --> 00:03:37,650 We see all these different sides of her. 70 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:40,620 And I think that that's just an amazing character to play. 71 00:03:41,788 --> 00:03:43,990 It's got to be it's such a complex character. 72 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:47,260 And now the surface level of just the strongest woman on Earth. 73 00:03:47,260 --> 00:03:50,129 And then all of that vulnerability. Right underneath it. 74 00:03:50,129 --> 00:03:52,232 How do you try to address that when your voice acting? 75 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,268 How do you try to add that so that people could to read that, through the screen? 76 00:03:56,102 --> 00:04:00,039 Well, you know, I always say that voice acting is acting. 77 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:03,109 So if you want to be a, a good, a really 78 00:04:03,109 --> 00:04:07,680 great voice actor, take acting classes, go into theater, 79 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:12,619 do as many plays, movies, television, whatever that you can do 80 00:04:13,186 --> 00:04:15,922 before you even attempt to do voice work. 81 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:19,359 So I started off in theater, and as you know, you've read my book. 82 00:04:19,392 --> 00:04:22,662 I mean, I started acting in theater when I was 15, 83 00:04:23,062 --> 00:04:26,165 became professional at 17 84 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:29,736 and was a cast to play a starring 85 00:04:29,736 --> 00:04:34,140 role in a rock opera on the life of Marilyn 86 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:37,143 Monroe at the age of 19. 87 00:04:37,977 --> 00:04:42,749 And then my career took off after that, and I started doing movies and television 88 00:04:42,749 --> 00:04:45,752 and all kinds of other plays all around the world. 89 00:04:46,019 --> 00:04:49,422 So by the time I actually was asked to do a voiceover, 90 00:04:49,956 --> 00:04:55,061 I won an award in Canada for my first, radio drama. 91 00:04:55,061 --> 00:04:58,264 It was my first voice job, playing a character called Mary 92 00:04:58,264 --> 00:05:01,367 Snow in Salt Water Moon, which was a play by David French. 93 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:04,504 And I won Best Actress across Canada for that. 94 00:05:04,504 --> 00:05:08,574 I was 26, and then, X-Men 95 00:05:08,574 --> 00:05:12,245 was only the second animated series that I ever did. 96 00:05:12,712 --> 00:05:17,317 And so, you know, I put all of my passion, everything, 97 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:23,756 all of my life experiences, all of my different emotions into my performance. 98 00:05:24,123 --> 00:05:27,894 And I have a voice, probably because I did start off as a singer. 99 00:05:28,294 --> 00:05:33,032 That can really change and I can put little nuances into it 100 00:05:33,299 --> 00:05:39,005 that will make people feel their feelings and open up their hearts 101 00:05:39,572 --> 00:05:44,911 and cry or laugh or despair. 102 00:05:45,411 --> 00:05:47,914 And and that's something that I feel is, 103 00:05:47,914 --> 00:05:51,551 is a gift that I, that I have that I was given. 104 00:05:51,551 --> 00:05:52,752 I was born with it. 105 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:56,022 I've honed it over the years, you know, being able to control your emotions. 106 00:05:56,622 --> 00:05:57,857 So, yeah. 107 00:05:57,857 --> 00:06:00,660 So that you don't let them all out in real life, you know? 108 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:02,495 So if you're angry and you got lots of anger, 109 00:06:02,495 --> 00:06:06,833 I prefer to put it into my performances rather than getting angry at people. 110 00:06:07,233 --> 00:06:08,534 I'd rather stay calm. 111 00:06:08,534 --> 00:06:12,605 I take Buddhist classes, I meditate every day. 112 00:06:12,705 --> 00:06:16,809 I walk in the forest, and I just feel 113 00:06:16,809 --> 00:06:21,180 that I'd rather be peaceful and calm and loving and kind in my real life, 114 00:06:21,414 --> 00:06:26,586 and save all of my passion and energy for my performances. 115 00:06:27,787 --> 00:06:30,123 Which is so, so real. 116 00:06:30,123 --> 00:06:32,925 That's wonderful. Thank you. Yeah. 117 00:06:32,925 --> 00:06:35,828 There's something about like, you were saying those nuances 118 00:06:35,828 --> 00:06:38,898 when she does, like lead the team or little moments like that 119 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:39,799 that we've seen time and time 120 00:06:39,799 --> 00:06:43,503 again, it's hard because a lot of times when I read rogue in comic books, 121 00:06:43,870 --> 00:06:45,738 it's your voice. So it's hard to write. 122 00:06:45,738 --> 00:06:48,741 This is what you actually did versus what I heard when I was reading it. 123 00:06:49,809 --> 00:06:52,812 I've been living in your head rent free for 30 years. 124 00:06:53,312 --> 00:06:54,881 Exactly, exactly. 125 00:06:54,881 --> 00:06:57,917 So it is kind of, tricky because it's almost like this 126 00:06:57,917 --> 00:07:01,053 childlike innocence where you're just like, she's mad. 127 00:07:01,053 --> 00:07:03,055 She's got every reason to be mad on her side of it. 128 00:07:03,055 --> 00:07:06,025 But also, you're just, like, disappointed in you are the best for her. 129 00:07:06,025 --> 00:07:09,162 The very complicated situation whenever you're reading rogue. 130 00:07:09,695 --> 00:07:10,263 Yeah. 131 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:14,167 And the other thing I like to try and tell fans 132 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:19,639 who sometimes ask me, why did she she betrayed the X-Men 133 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:22,642 by going over to Magneto after, 134 00:07:22,742 --> 00:07:25,545 you know, after Janelle and I say to them, 135 00:07:26,779 --> 00:07:29,081 she's traumatized. 136 00:07:29,081 --> 00:07:31,551 She just witnessed 137 00:07:31,551 --> 00:07:35,221 a huge genocide all around her. 138 00:07:35,588 --> 00:07:39,826 Of all of the people, her people, people that she loved. 139 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:43,563 Her friends, including her, two of her loves. 140 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:46,966 And she she feels 141 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:50,036 probably some survivor's guilt, too. 142 00:07:50,303 --> 00:07:53,439 And the fact that she never got the chance to actually say to Remi 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,642 while he was alive, oh, honey, 144 00:07:56,642 --> 00:07:59,612 sugar, some things are deeper than skin. 145 00:07:59,612 --> 00:08:02,582 She says it to Magneto when they kiss, 146 00:08:02,915 --> 00:08:06,419 and he thinks she's going to come with him and be his queen. 147 00:08:06,419 --> 00:08:09,422 But she pulls away and she repeats what 148 00:08:09,722 --> 00:08:13,993 Remy said to her, which was, you know, he says, thanks to the dance, sugar. 149 00:08:14,527 --> 00:08:16,395 But Remy was right. 150 00:08:16,395 --> 00:08:19,298 Some things are deeper than skin. 151 00:08:19,298 --> 00:08:21,767 I love that, I just love that. 152 00:08:21,767 --> 00:08:25,338 Yeah, I threw that line in there in the recording session. 153 00:08:25,605 --> 00:08:28,407 Did you let me. They let me keep it. Yeah. 154 00:08:28,407 --> 00:08:32,311 I thought, why shouldn't he repeat what what he had said to her? 155 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:37,383 Because she suddenly realizes, yeah, it's not all about feeling and touch and sex. 156 00:08:37,383 --> 00:08:40,887 It's about love. Deep, deep love. 157 00:08:42,154 --> 00:08:43,723 Which I think Marvel Rivals is doing a good job 158 00:08:43,723 --> 00:08:46,559 with their advertisement of showing that that there's this love 159 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,528 between the two that they worked so well together. And stuff. 160 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,396 Oh, it's amazing, isn't it? 161 00:08:50,396 --> 00:08:53,900 That is really giving the fans some wonderful 162 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:56,235 candy to chew on their lovemaking. 163 00:08:56,235 --> 00:08:57,770 Yeah, 164 00:08:57,770 --> 00:09:01,440 he's dead in one universe, but they're getting married in another. 165 00:09:01,774 --> 00:09:04,944 So AJ is staying real quiet about that. 166 00:09:04,944 --> 00:09:06,512 By the way, we've begged him a few times like, 167 00:09:06,512 --> 00:09:08,881 come on, AJ, we know that you recorded for season two. 168 00:09:08,881 --> 00:09:10,750 You could tell us, but he's been real quiet. 169 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:11,551 He's been good about it. 170 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:14,720 We appreciate it. Yeah. 171 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,356 And another thing, just to kind of touch on that one more time, 172 00:09:17,356 --> 00:09:20,393 when she goes with Magneto, I think it's the simpler option. 173 00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:24,163 I think when you were an X-Men, it's asking you to be to think 174 00:09:24,163 --> 00:09:26,666 very, Let's see. 175 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,167 Gray, you can't think black and white. 176 00:09:28,167 --> 00:09:29,669 And Magneto just gives you the black and white. 177 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:32,672 He gives you solutions when nobody else does. 178 00:09:32,672 --> 00:09:35,675 And so for somebody who's gone through so much trauma and chaos, 179 00:09:35,808 --> 00:09:38,010 the simple solutions right there, he's going to give you the answers. 180 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:39,779 Just go so and. 181 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:42,348 And she's also thinking of her people. 182 00:09:43,516 --> 00:09:44,183 He's giving 183 00:09:44,183 --> 00:09:47,920 her the opportunity like I had to say. 184 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,923 Would you like to be part of the government 185 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:54,860 and help decide the future of our people? 186 00:09:55,261 --> 00:09:58,064 How do we make life better for everybody? 187 00:09:58,064 --> 00:09:59,865 How do we protect everyone? 188 00:09:59,865 --> 00:10:04,837 How do we make it so that people can be living with one another in peace 189 00:10:04,837 --> 00:10:10,343 and harmony instead of constant wars and trying to kill other people? 190 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:13,412 And I think that that is very, very tempting for her. 191 00:10:13,412 --> 00:10:16,415 She would love to be able to be part of that, 192 00:10:16,482 --> 00:10:20,152 which is another reason why she agrees to go with him. 193 00:10:21,354 --> 00:10:22,688 Yeah. 194 00:10:22,688 --> 00:10:23,723 Such a great character. 195 00:10:23,723 --> 00:10:28,194 And then, yeah, a lot of people are experiencing your a new in Marvel rivals. 196 00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:30,396 How is that changed when you're the voice actor 197 00:10:30,396 --> 00:10:33,399 behind Marvel Rivals and it's a video game format? 198 00:10:33,599 --> 00:10:36,135 How are you changing how you're approaching rogue? 199 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:37,503 It's not really any different. 200 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:38,671 It's it's still rogue. 201 00:10:39,972 --> 00:10:41,641 It's still me, sugar. 202 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:45,044 I'm just, I do a lot more fighting and, 203 00:10:45,044 --> 00:10:48,581 you know, teasing and, you know, feeling. 204 00:10:48,781 --> 00:10:53,219 I put some of my my own Eleanor rogue 205 00:10:53,219 --> 00:10:58,190 nuances into my lines, like, you know, I'm feeling a little touchy today. 206 00:10:58,591 --> 00:10:59,992 You know, that is. 207 00:10:59,992 --> 00:11:04,330 That is pure Linares, and I, what can I say? 208 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:07,500 I do stuff like that with my voice and with enacting, 209 00:11:07,833 --> 00:11:11,437 and I'll make take pauses where they're not written 210 00:11:11,871 --> 00:11:15,041 and turn it into something that is my own. 211 00:11:15,541 --> 00:11:17,376 And it's so much fun. 212 00:11:17,376 --> 00:11:19,945 And they're letting me do that, which is great. 213 00:11:19,945 --> 00:11:21,847 I love I love working with them. 214 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:22,181 Yeah. 215 00:11:22,181 --> 00:11:25,951 And I love, I love being in part of Marvel Rivals. 216 00:11:25,951 --> 00:11:28,154 And the team is so beautiful. 217 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:30,823 They're really nice people to work with. 218 00:11:30,823 --> 00:11:35,695 We are going to be having a special event on, I think it's March the 3rd 219 00:11:36,062 --> 00:11:40,900 at the El Capitan, Theater in Los Angeles, and tickets are free. 220 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:44,804 There's going to be panels and, they can make announcements 221 00:11:44,804 --> 00:11:46,038 and any who's going to be there 222 00:11:46,038 --> 00:11:49,041 make some announcements about what the future of the game. 223 00:11:49,208 --> 00:11:52,144 So I'm really looking forward to that because of then I'll get to see everybody 224 00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:53,846 second down. 225 00:11:53,846 --> 00:11:56,248 If you can still get a ticket. 226 00:11:56,248 --> 00:11:57,183 Yeah you got to check it out. 227 00:11:57,183 --> 00:12:00,119 Marvel rivals is kind of a who's who in the acting world. 228 00:12:00,119 --> 00:12:03,823 If you look at it like IMDb page, you really see some legends in there. 229 00:12:03,823 --> 00:12:04,523 It's really fun. 230 00:12:04,523 --> 00:12:05,257 I love it. 231 00:12:05,257 --> 00:12:05,925 Is really great. 232 00:12:05,925 --> 00:12:09,729 I get to meet them at different comic cons and we just love it. 233 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:13,032 Like, I missed Josh Keaton for the first time recently 234 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:16,502 and it's like, you know, he was my Captain America. 235 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:19,305 Yeah. We just we just have a blast. 236 00:12:19,305 --> 00:12:21,741 They're just really good people. 237 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:24,710 I met Steve Blum for the first time recently because, 238 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:29,014 of course, normally I'm working with Cal Dot as, as Wolverine. 239 00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:31,350 And so I met Steve Blum recently, too. 240 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:33,185 And what a lovely man he is too. 241 00:12:33,185 --> 00:12:34,920 So it's great. 242 00:12:35,888 --> 00:12:38,190 It's a really great, really great crew. 243 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:41,594 Looking at the comic books, the source material, one of the things going on 244 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:44,730 right now and uncanny X-Men fantastic run, which you guys are checking that out. 245 00:12:44,997 --> 00:12:47,399 Rogue is the leader of the X-Men. 246 00:12:47,399 --> 00:12:49,135 What about rogue makes her a good leader? 247 00:12:49,135 --> 00:12:52,071 What are you hoping that that you could kind of some time, maybe. 248 00:12:52,071 --> 00:12:54,540 Maybe in 97, rogue could take the front. 249 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:55,775 What do you want to see out of that? 250 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,778 You know, I think that once rogue 251 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:04,550 comes down after the whole, genocide 252 00:13:05,050 --> 00:13:08,053 and dealing with her emotions 253 00:13:08,487 --> 00:13:13,993 about what happened with Remy and with Magneto two, really? 254 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:16,562 She thought she lost both of them at one point. 255 00:13:16,562 --> 00:13:19,565 I think rogue would make a great leader. 256 00:13:19,965 --> 00:13:23,335 She she thinks quickly. 257 00:13:23,969 --> 00:13:28,207 She's not afraid of danger, but she doesn't want to put her, her 258 00:13:28,207 --> 00:13:32,611 her friends and her her companions in danger. 259 00:13:32,678 --> 00:13:35,881 She would put herself in danger before she puts anyone else in danger. 260 00:13:35,881 --> 00:13:38,551 She's not going to, like, send someone else to go check it out. 261 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:40,286 She would go check it out herself. 262 00:13:40,286 --> 00:13:43,856 So I think that as she gains 263 00:13:43,856 --> 00:13:48,661 more and more experience at being able to come and control 264 00:13:49,195 --> 00:13:52,765 her own powerful energy, 265 00:13:53,566 --> 00:13:57,469 she'll be a leader that, is unmatched. 266 00:13:58,571 --> 00:13:59,271 Yeah. 267 00:13:59,271 --> 00:14:03,075 One of the things about Rogue Two that I think she might be the best at it, 268 00:14:03,075 --> 00:14:06,912 and maybe why her and Remy work so well together is she's compassionate. 269 00:14:06,912 --> 00:14:09,915 She's been the most outside of the outside X-Men. 270 00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:13,185 And so when a teenager comes to the school needing help, 271 00:14:13,319 --> 00:14:15,254 I can't think of a better person to reach out first. 272 00:14:15,254 --> 00:14:17,890 You know exactly. I would love to see that. 273 00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:18,524 Exactly. 274 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:21,727 And really, you know, she has no children of her own. 275 00:14:21,727 --> 00:14:27,499 So really, the kids of the school, they are her children and all these. 276 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:30,903 Yeah, these mutant kids, they are her kids. 277 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:33,839 And she wants to protect them. 278 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:35,507 Yeah, that's pretty wonderful. 279 00:14:35,507 --> 00:14:36,709 It's such a great role model. 280 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:39,311 Speaking of her as a role model, 281 00:14:39,311 --> 00:14:41,347 unfortunately, and you had mentioned it in your memoir, 282 00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:42,781 please make sure you guys check that out. 283 00:14:42,781 --> 00:14:46,585 Women are currently under attack, the LGBTQ community 284 00:14:46,585 --> 00:14:49,588 under attack, many different minority groups. 285 00:14:49,688 --> 00:14:52,892 What is it that you're hoping that they can see in rogue, especially, like, 286 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:53,492 I think women? 287 00:14:53,492 --> 00:14:56,462 I think she's such a wonderful role model for everyone, including women. 288 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:57,730 What do you think? 289 00:14:57,730 --> 00:15:00,132 I think that people right now 290 00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:05,371 are so angry, disappointed, 291 00:15:06,872 --> 00:15:09,308 shamed. 292 00:15:09,308 --> 00:15:12,511 They were promised many, many things 293 00:15:12,511 --> 00:15:16,048 by governments over the years that have not come to fruition. 294 00:15:16,548 --> 00:15:20,552 That whole white picket fence, the whole thing 295 00:15:20,552 --> 00:15:24,423 of when back in the 90s, the 1940s and 50s, 296 00:15:24,423 --> 00:15:29,495 when people could have like one job per family and have five kids and 297 00:15:29,995 --> 00:15:33,499 and that paid for everything, that is no longer the case. 298 00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:36,502 Many, many people have to work 2 or 3 jobs 299 00:15:36,635 --> 00:15:39,471 just to get by. 300 00:15:39,471 --> 00:15:42,174 So I think there's a deep rage there. 301 00:15:42,174 --> 00:15:45,177 I think there is a deep resentment there. 302 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,547 And the easiest way for people to deal 303 00:15:48,547 --> 00:15:51,550 with all of that anger and resentment 304 00:15:51,984 --> 00:15:54,453 is to take it out on others, 305 00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:57,423 instead of taking the time 306 00:15:57,790 --> 00:16:02,761 to do the work on themselves, to dig, to take off 307 00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:06,498 all the layers of the onion and say, well, what's under that? 308 00:16:06,765 --> 00:16:08,267 Why am I angry about that? 309 00:16:08,267 --> 00:16:11,070 Well, what else am I angry about? Well, where did that start? 310 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:12,805 What happened when I was a kid? 311 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:15,808 You know, I'm an alcoholic who's sober. 312 00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:18,811 I have 30 years of sobriety this April. 313 00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:23,048 And in and in 12 step programs, they say 314 00:16:23,082 --> 00:16:27,386 you need to peel all the layers off and you need to go deep. 315 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:33,392 And underneath all of that resentment and rage and fear, well, 316 00:16:33,525 --> 00:16:37,096 and underneath the rage and resentment is fear. 317 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:41,367 And underneath the fear is grief. 318 00:16:42,368 --> 00:16:43,602 It's sadness. 319 00:16:43,602 --> 00:16:46,605 It's a deep, deep grief. 320 00:16:47,306 --> 00:16:52,077 And I think that rogue in episode five, 321 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:55,414 I was able to help people 322 00:16:55,414 --> 00:16:59,418 feel that deep grief that was underneath everything. 323 00:16:59,885 --> 00:17:03,756 When Remy dies and when she says, oh, sugar, 324 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,859 I, I can't feel you. 325 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,695 And it just broke people open 326 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:13,799 and I think that that's so important to realize that 327 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:19,104 that's where a lot of this us and them, and I'm mad at them and I don't like them. 328 00:17:19,104 --> 00:17:23,208 And all this hatred and bigotry comes from and rogue is all about, 329 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:26,311 hey, man, we're all in this together. 330 00:17:26,311 --> 00:17:27,579 What, you no different for me 331 00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:31,417 if you got green skin, blue skin, purple hair, I don't care. 332 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:35,187 I will save you because we're all in this together. 333 00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:38,190 And it's our differences that make us stronger. 334 00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:42,061 And as she says in The Cure, which was an original 335 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:45,330 in the original series, there's an episode called The Cure 336 00:17:45,631 --> 00:17:49,001 where rogue goes to Muriel and to try and get rid of her superpowers 337 00:17:49,001 --> 00:17:52,137 because she wants to just be, quote unquote, normal. 338 00:17:52,971 --> 00:17:58,610 And at the end of that episode, she realizes, oh, actually, 339 00:17:59,011 --> 00:18:02,347 she says, I reckon I am my powers 340 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:07,352 and the good they can do, and I reckon I can live with that. 341 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:10,622 There ain't no cure for who you are. There's 342 00:18:11,623 --> 00:18:13,125 literally wrote that quote down. 343 00:18:13,125 --> 00:18:15,127 It's one of my favorites, and I think it's something 344 00:18:15,127 --> 00:18:17,463 that everybody needs to keep on their heart. 345 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:18,864 It's such a good line. 346 00:18:18,864 --> 00:18:21,033 Yeah, I love that. 347 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:24,002 If I could help the world to learn how to love 348 00:18:24,503 --> 00:18:27,606 not only one another, but to love themselves, 349 00:18:28,707 --> 00:18:30,609 I would be so happy. 350 00:18:30,609 --> 00:18:33,512 I would be so happy to try and help make people 351 00:18:33,512 --> 00:18:36,482 heal their own deep, deep traumas. 352 00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:40,152 Because I think that's what part of the problem is right now. 353 00:18:41,753 --> 00:18:45,591 Well, in Outside of rogue, you're a hero in many fronts. 354 00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:48,694 And, one of the things I want to make sure to mention 355 00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:53,232 is your work, in Canadian politics, especially with your bill originally. 356 00:18:53,232 --> 00:18:58,504 See 30 eventually, see 2 to 6, for environmental racism. 357 00:18:58,504 --> 00:19:02,107 And one of the things I really appreciate about you pushing this is, 358 00:19:02,107 --> 00:19:05,110 I think it was probably a term lesser known to many people, 359 00:19:05,377 --> 00:19:07,546 probably with the privilege of not knowing that term. 360 00:19:07,546 --> 00:19:09,381 And with you sharing it, I 361 00:19:09,381 --> 00:19:12,384 it brought it to the forefront where people could actually look into it. 362 00:19:12,417 --> 00:19:13,986 And in 2024, it passed. 363 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,721 So I mean, how wonderful. Yeah, 364 00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:19,825 it's like the law in Canada now 365 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:23,128 because, you know, we all I think if you think about it, 366 00:19:23,762 --> 00:19:27,332 there are many, many places all across the world, really, 367 00:19:27,332 --> 00:19:31,570 not just in Canada or even just, in America, where corporations, 368 00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:36,341 governments, have put, polluting, 369 00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:40,546 and they've put polluting factories 370 00:19:40,546 --> 00:19:44,383 or dumps or waste sites or whatever, 371 00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:49,755 where all of this pollution seeps down into the water system, 372 00:19:50,322 --> 00:19:52,658 and then all of the people who live around there, 373 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:55,794 they're breathing in the fumes, they're drinking water. 374 00:19:55,794 --> 00:19:57,796 That is polluted. 375 00:19:57,796 --> 00:20:00,265 And, I mean, you just have to look at Flint, 376 00:20:00,265 --> 00:20:03,769 Michigan, with the with the mercury and or lead. 377 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:07,372 And so people who are of color 378 00:20:07,372 --> 00:20:12,110 black, brown, indigenous people, people who are not white, 379 00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:16,515 they're the ones who bear the brunt of it, usually because their communities is 380 00:20:16,515 --> 00:20:20,485 where most of the governments and corporations put these polluting, 381 00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:24,923 systems, and therefore their health outcomes are different from ours. 382 00:20:24,923 --> 00:20:28,260 And I just feel as rogue and as myself. 383 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:29,661 That's unfair. 384 00:20:29,661 --> 00:20:31,797 And I wanted to do something about it. 385 00:20:31,797 --> 00:20:34,933 So I introduced a bill that would that would bring it 386 00:20:34,933 --> 00:20:38,804 to the forefront and make a change in Canada, at least. 387 00:20:40,205 --> 00:20:41,073 It's it's wonderful. 388 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,108 And again, even even outside of Canada, just the fact 389 00:20:43,108 --> 00:20:45,978 that it brought attention to something like that, that I think. Yeah. Yeah. 390 00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,579 You don't want people to know about this. 391 00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:48,647 Yeah, exactly. 392 00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:51,483 Thank you, thank you. Now, of course, of course. 393 00:20:51,483 --> 00:20:54,086 You also have your book, A Rogues Tale. 394 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:57,055 And I want to make sure you guys check out the audio book. 395 00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,191 It's read by Lenore herself. And it was. 396 00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:01,660 One of the things I want to point out real quick is, 397 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:02,761 really well read. 398 00:21:02,761 --> 00:21:04,563 But there's a part where you're doing the nursery rhyme, and I'm like, 399 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:08,066 if I was reading this, I wouldn't have gotten the nursery rhyme in your voice. 400 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:11,036 And it's best to have with your voice. 401 00:21:11,036 --> 00:21:12,938 Right, right, right. 402 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:15,941 And in my voice, I was kind of doing my grandmother's voice, too. 403 00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:18,543 Yeah. You know, you could feel it. 404 00:21:18,543 --> 00:21:23,115 Yeah, that was what I was I was, I was emanating my grandmother mum emotional. 405 00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,717 I miss her to this day. 406 00:21:25,717 --> 00:21:27,452 She lived to be 97. 407 00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:30,455 She was my best friend for so many years. 408 00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:35,394 And, she's the one who first got me interested in mythology 409 00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:38,730 and, like, the hero's journey. 410 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:41,933 And, I think that's what also got me 411 00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:46,171 very interested in these types of, you know, sword and sorcery magic. 412 00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:49,808 The the Narnia in adventures, the Chronicles 413 00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:52,878 of Narnia, Lord of the rings, all those kinds of things. 414 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:57,883 And then of course, our X-Men, it's like we're kind of like the modern 415 00:21:57,883 --> 00:21:59,284 myths, really. We are. 416 00:21:59,284 --> 00:22:03,121 We are modern heroes, of mythology 417 00:22:03,121 --> 00:22:06,258 for a whole new generation of kids and adults. 418 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:07,993 Yeah. 419 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,861 And, and I think for a lot of people who see, like, 420 00:22:09,861 --> 00:22:13,699 the old mythology compared to today's mythology with the X-Men and Ironman 421 00:22:13,699 --> 00:22:16,768 and the like, it's sometimes it's easier to take some of our baser instincts, 422 00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:18,570 the basic lessons we need to teach ourselves 423 00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:21,707 and personify them on something, above us or out 424 00:22:21,707 --> 00:22:25,877 of true, extraordinary to understand that. Yes. 425 00:22:25,877 --> 00:22:30,382 And and really, when you look into myths, I mean, they, they, 426 00:22:30,582 --> 00:22:34,653 they are repeated throughout cultures around the world. 427 00:22:35,487 --> 00:22:37,622 And they keep coming back. 428 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:38,590 They keep coming back. 429 00:22:38,590 --> 00:22:41,593 They keep being brought up in all kinds of stories 430 00:22:41,893 --> 00:22:44,029 for like thousands of years. 431 00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:47,132 So, yeah, you know, actors are storytellers 432 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,469 and human beings love stories. 433 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:55,140 And I think that's what keeps them coming to something like X-Men, 434 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:58,677 because they want to know what what's going to happen with the story. 435 00:22:58,677 --> 00:23:00,679 They're just they're following the story. 436 00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:03,815 And because it is sort of mythological 437 00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:08,153 based, it's almost in our DNA that we it 438 00:23:08,153 --> 00:23:12,791 kind of reminds us of stuff from eons ago. 439 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:16,528 Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it lasts how long? 440 00:23:16,528 --> 00:23:19,164 Because it is just part of human nature, too. 441 00:23:19,164 --> 00:23:19,698 Yeah. 442 00:23:19,698 --> 00:23:21,066 Let your rogues example 443 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:23,735 be unsure of yourself needing to find a home 444 00:23:23,735 --> 00:23:27,005 and safety outside of, you know, where you're born and all these things. 445 00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:28,740 It's just like you'll find a piece of rogue. 446 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:30,542 You might not be as strong as her physically, 447 00:23:30,542 --> 00:23:32,577 but you can be as strong as are emotionally. 448 00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:33,211 You can. 449 00:23:33,211 --> 00:23:36,281 And I love it that many fans tell me that when they're going through 450 00:23:36,281 --> 00:23:39,684 hard times and over the years when they've gone through hard times, 451 00:23:40,051 --> 00:23:44,423 they think of rogue and they think of what would rogue tell me in this moment? 452 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:46,892 What would rogue say? What would rogue do? 453 00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:49,861 And they say, Lenore, it's like you're right there with me. 454 00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:53,665 And this is when people have different, terrible traumas 455 00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:55,167 that have happened to them in their lives. 456 00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:58,270 And I say, oh my God, I'm so honored that 457 00:23:58,737 --> 00:24:03,141 I can still be helping people when I'm not even like 458 00:24:03,141 --> 00:24:07,012 they're physically and I'm not even aware that it's happening. 459 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:12,217 But if anything, that they can get from my performance and from the stories 460 00:24:12,217 --> 00:24:15,787 that will help them through something difficult that they're dealing 461 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,924 with, then I can die a happy person. 462 00:24:20,325 --> 00:24:20,492 Well, 463 00:24:20,492 --> 00:24:23,462 you've done so many great things in, let alone the fact that, like I said, 464 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:27,098 every time I crack open an X-Men book, it's been your voice for 30 years. 465 00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:30,135 So it'll continue to be that way. 466 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:32,070 Well, thank you so much. 467 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:34,239 Yeah, I think there's going to be quite a few more to come. 468 00:24:34,239 --> 00:24:35,941 So yeah. 469 00:24:35,941 --> 00:24:38,043 Hold on to your horses, folks. 470 00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:41,012 We're in for a wild ride. 471 00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:43,982 To close this out, I thought I would do a few lightning 472 00:24:43,982 --> 00:24:47,452 round questions if you're up for that, but just kind of close things up for us. 473 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:48,887 What? 474 00:24:48,887 --> 00:24:50,522 What other character or other role 475 00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:53,492 would you like to play in a completely different franchise? 476 00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:57,629 Well, I mean, I would love to do any kind of 477 00:24:57,629 --> 00:25:02,901 mythological or space like mythological character, you know, a queen 478 00:25:02,901 --> 00:25:05,904 or a gladiator or, 479 00:25:05,904 --> 00:25:10,075 you know, somebody who is powerful, either good or evil. 480 00:25:10,075 --> 00:25:11,877 I love playing evil characters too. 481 00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:16,748 And I had one that was in, she was called Master is in 482 00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:19,751 Storm Hawks, and she wanted to take over the world. 483 00:25:19,985 --> 00:25:21,686 She was fabulous. 484 00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:25,557 I also played the mummy's girlfriend, a knock soon woman 485 00:25:25,891 --> 00:25:29,594 in the animated series The Mummy opposite Jim Cummings. 486 00:25:29,928 --> 00:25:33,198 And she was evil too, because she he brought her back to life. 487 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:36,001 And then she wanted to kill him and take over the world. 488 00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:38,403 Let that seems to be a theme here. 489 00:25:38,403 --> 00:25:39,504 Going on. 490 00:25:39,504 --> 00:25:42,507 But I love those kinds of characters. 491 00:25:42,841 --> 00:25:44,910 And I want to do more on camera stuff. 492 00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:46,211 I am doing some. 493 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:51,116 I've got one show that's out on Peacock right now, called revival. 494 00:25:51,249 --> 00:25:53,552 I have a recurring role in that. 495 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:56,755 I am developing my book into a film, 496 00:25:57,455 --> 00:25:59,958 and while I would not play myself 497 00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:03,061 in it, I would use a much younger actress for that. 498 00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:03,762 I'd love yet. 499 00:26:03,762 --> 00:26:04,996 Florence Pugh. 500 00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:07,999 Florence Pugh would be a fabulous young me. 501 00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:12,904 But there is a role of her, her older cousin that I could play. 502 00:26:13,071 --> 00:26:17,108 And I have my, my, my music coming out, too. 503 00:26:17,108 --> 00:26:19,678 I have, songs that I've written. 504 00:26:19,678 --> 00:26:25,250 So I've got three, three albums that I'll be releasing over the next 505 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:28,720 while, a trilogy of albums and, 506 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,723 yeah, I'm I'm up for anything, really. 507 00:26:32,023 --> 00:26:33,325 A few people are reaching out to me 508 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:37,395 about some film roles right now, so we'll see where that goes. 509 00:26:37,395 --> 00:26:43,101 But I'm open for business and I'll go anywhere because I'm up for an adventure. 510 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:47,172 When you said mythology right away is Athena would be perfect for you. 511 00:26:47,172 --> 00:26:49,507 That would be a great yes. 512 00:26:49,507 --> 00:26:52,177 Yeah. 513 00:26:52,177 --> 00:26:55,180 What is a director's note that you'll never forget? 514 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:56,681 Oh my goodness. 515 00:26:56,681 --> 00:27:01,353 Well, in the book, there's one passage where I talk about this director 516 00:27:01,353 --> 00:27:04,356 who directed me as Marilyn Monroe 517 00:27:04,656 --> 00:27:07,092 in the rock opera of Marilyn Monroe. 518 00:27:07,092 --> 00:27:09,427 Do you have you got to that part yet? 519 00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:10,862 I have, yes, yes, yes. 520 00:27:10,862 --> 00:27:13,832 And this guy was much older than me. 521 00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:18,937 I was 19, I turned 20 during the the course of the show. 522 00:27:19,504 --> 00:27:21,940 He was probably in his late 60s and he and 523 00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:25,043 his wife was pregnant upstairs in the building that I was staying at. 524 00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:28,113 And he started coming on to me sexually, 525 00:27:28,113 --> 00:27:32,517 and calling me and saying all kinds of inappropriate things 526 00:27:32,517 --> 00:27:37,022 and inviting me down to the swimming pool and trying to like grape me and, oh, me. 527 00:27:37,022 --> 00:27:39,791 It was awful. Yeah. And 528 00:27:41,192 --> 00:27:42,360 I said, no, I mean, I 529 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,563 really stood up for myself and said, look, I'm sorry, this is just business. 530 00:27:45,563 --> 00:27:46,564 I'm 19. 531 00:27:46,564 --> 00:27:49,768 I have this huge starring role where I have 532 00:27:49,768 --> 00:27:53,938 to put all my energy into being Marilyn Monroe. 533 00:27:53,938 --> 00:27:57,976 The newspapers are saying, well, will this young, unknown 19 534 00:27:57,976 --> 00:28:01,713 year old be able to play the great Marilyn Monroe? 535 00:28:01,713 --> 00:28:04,416 I mean, there was a lot of pressure, 536 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,718 and so he punished me 537 00:28:06,718 --> 00:28:09,821 by not directing me, not giving me any blocking 538 00:28:10,288 --> 00:28:13,224 so that I was basically just left to my own devices. 539 00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:16,861 And he said he made an announcement, said, all right. 540 00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:20,065 People like, don't worry if we haven't blocked your scenes yet, don't worry. 541 00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:23,068 Just just stand and sing because it was a rock opera. 542 00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:26,638 We'll get to you eventually before, you know, opening night. 543 00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:29,274 So I was standing there singing. 544 00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:32,010 And then at the end of this one rehearsal, we're getting towards 545 00:28:32,010 --> 00:28:35,013 the end, you know, we're getting close to the previews. 546 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,248 And he called everybody out on stage. 547 00:28:37,248 --> 00:28:39,084 He put big lights up on stage. 548 00:28:39,084 --> 00:28:42,721 He was out in the like 1000 seat auditorium in the dark 549 00:28:42,954 --> 00:28:45,123 with a big megaphone. 550 00:28:45,123 --> 00:28:48,259 And he went through the show and then he said, now, Lenore, 551 00:28:48,259 --> 00:28:50,261 would you come out here in the middle of the stage, please? 552 00:28:50,261 --> 00:28:51,963 And then I'm standing in the middle 553 00:28:51,963 --> 00:28:54,632 of the stage by myself with all the lights and everybody's around me. 554 00:28:54,632 --> 00:28:55,800 The orchestra's down there. 555 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,338 Back when we had orchestras who played for musicals, and he said, 556 00:29:00,371 --> 00:29:04,175 Eleanor, are you just going to stand there like a block of wood? 557 00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:06,978 Aren't you gonna move around or anything? 558 00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:10,715 And I said, well, 559 00:29:10,715 --> 00:29:14,185 you said that if you hadn't gotten to the scenes to just 560 00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:18,990 stand and and sing, and I kind of started to get a little teary eyed. 561 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:20,024 And then he goes, 562 00:29:20,024 --> 00:29:23,328 and this is what I'll never forget goes, listen, sweetheart, 563 00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:26,831 if Liza minnelli was here, she'd be telling me 564 00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:29,834 what to do. 565 00:29:30,635 --> 00:29:33,638 What would a jackass. 566 00:29:34,172 --> 00:29:38,810 I mean, he humiliated me in front of everybody. 567 00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:42,747 So what I did was I turned around on my heels, 568 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:46,785 and I kept my tears in, and I turned around, 569 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:50,288 and I walked off stage because I'd seen it done in some movies or something. 570 00:29:50,922 --> 00:29:53,925 It was like, I've seen it in a movie somewhere, you know? 571 00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:57,929 And I walked off stage and then I went home to the house 572 00:29:57,929 --> 00:30:01,032 where I was staying, where his wife was pregnant, upstairs in the same building. 573 00:30:01,666 --> 00:30:07,772 And I went through the entire script and I, I blocked every single scene myself. 574 00:30:08,273 --> 00:30:11,876 And then I came in the next day and I went from dressing room 575 00:30:11,876 --> 00:30:15,680 to dressing room, and I told the cast, I said they were like, oh my God, Lenore, 576 00:30:16,281 --> 00:30:17,949 why is he treating you like this? 577 00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:18,817 What is going on? 578 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,419 I hadn't told anybody what he was doing. 579 00:30:21,419 --> 00:30:24,422 I didn't know, I didn't even have an agent at the time. 580 00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:29,194 I said, listen, don't worry about that, but do me a favor. 581 00:30:30,395 --> 00:30:31,596 Today. 582 00:30:31,596 --> 00:30:34,532 Marilyn is going to move, 583 00:30:34,532 --> 00:30:37,535 so please just move with her. 584 00:30:37,902 --> 00:30:41,172 And they were like, yes, we'll do whatever it takes. 585 00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:43,141 You just come out and you do your thing. 586 00:30:43,141 --> 00:30:44,475 We'll work around. 587 00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:46,945 It will work with you. I would thank you so much. 588 00:30:46,945 --> 00:30:50,348 And then I went in my dressing room and I put the the sequin gown 589 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:53,418 and the wig and the makeup on 590 00:30:53,418 --> 00:30:57,088 and the earrings and I came out, and I was 591 00:30:57,088 --> 00:31:01,059 Marilyn Monroe, and I did that hope elements. 592 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,562 And at the end of it, he came up on stage with tears 593 00:31:04,562 --> 00:31:08,800 streaming down his face, and he hugged me in front of everybody. 594 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:12,437 And that was a brilliant performance, my dear. 595 00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:16,040 That's the performance you're going to be doing for opening night. 596 00:31:16,674 --> 00:31:20,011 And when I came out on opening night, when I came out on stage 597 00:31:20,645 --> 00:31:24,182 at the end of the curtain curtain call, when I came at last, 598 00:31:24,816 --> 00:31:28,853 the whole audience jumped to their feet and gave me a standing ovation. 599 00:31:29,487 --> 00:31:33,858 And they never knew what I'd done to get to that point. 600 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:37,996 And I never told anybody until I wrote my book last year. 601 00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:41,266 Yeah, I got guys got to get that memoir. 602 00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:42,400 I'm at the beginning part of that, 603 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,403 so I didn't know the twist ending, and I'm excited to get to that part now. 604 00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:48,139 Sorry to spoil it for you. 605 00:31:48,139 --> 00:31:48,539 Dope. 606 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:51,542 Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. 607 00:31:51,643 --> 00:31:53,144 Yeah. Until we good. 608 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,079 Never forget that one. 609 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:55,980 But you know what it did? 610 00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:58,850 Imagine it toughened me up in one sense. 611 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:01,352 I mean, it's terrible. No director should teach. 612 00:32:01,352 --> 00:32:03,955 Should treat an actor like that. 613 00:32:03,955 --> 00:32:05,690 It's inexcusable. 614 00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:08,993 But what it did was it gave me confidence that, hey, you know what? 615 00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:10,094 If someone's not going 616 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:13,097 to give me any direction and they're not going to help me in any way, 617 00:32:14,265 --> 00:32:15,199 I'm okay. 618 00:32:15,199 --> 00:32:17,602 I can do it on my own, you know? 619 00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:17,936 Yeah. 620 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,104 So it gave me confidence for the rest of my life. 621 00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:20,972 Really? 622 00:32:20,972 --> 00:32:22,807 That. Yeah. Worst case. 623 00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:25,343 Worst case scenario. Yeah. 624 00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:27,679 I can do whatever I need to do to make it work. 625 00:32:28,746 --> 00:32:30,782 The line you said if you just changed it to your name, well, 626 00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:33,251 the number is going to move. Just move with her. 627 00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:34,752 That's the line right there. 628 00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:36,287 Yeah. 629 00:32:36,287 --> 00:32:39,023 Exactly. 630 00:32:39,023 --> 00:32:40,058 Last question for you. 631 00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:43,061 What is a role that you want more people to be asking you about. 632 00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:46,664 A role that I want people to ask me about. 633 00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:46,898 Yeah. 634 00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:49,734 Everybody I know comes up to you wanting to know more about ROG. 635 00:32:49,734 --> 00:32:50,835 But what's that role that you wish 636 00:32:50,835 --> 00:32:53,037 that they were really curious about outside of me? 637 00:32:53,037 --> 00:32:57,342 To be honest, I never get tired of talking about ROG. 638 00:32:57,608 --> 00:33:00,745 A lot of people want to talk to me about, Asia 639 00:33:00,745 --> 00:33:05,616 clan, clan in Outlaw Star, which is an anime, 640 00:33:05,883 --> 00:33:09,821 and it was one of the first animes and it was my first anime. 641 00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:13,491 Wendy Lee directed it and I did it in Los Angeles. 642 00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:17,395 I think it was in like 2000 or 2002 or something like that. 643 00:33:17,962 --> 00:33:21,499 And she is also she has super strength and she also her 644 00:33:21,632 --> 00:33:26,004 hair colors are green and gold, but she's this strange little creature 645 00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:31,376 with funny ears and little funny teeth, and she can turn into a huge, 646 00:33:31,376 --> 00:33:36,447 gigantic tiger woman when she's either angry or when she eats. 647 00:33:36,447 --> 00:33:38,416 And she can eat a lot. 648 00:33:38,416 --> 00:33:41,486 And, she's hilarious. 649 00:33:41,486 --> 00:33:42,387 She's really funny. 650 00:33:42,387 --> 00:33:46,090 So if you haven't seen Outlaw Star yet, try and get a hold of it. 651 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:48,259 There are, there are DVD copies. 652 00:33:48,259 --> 00:33:49,560 There's some Blu ray copies. 653 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,063 I don't know if it's playing anywhere right now, but you can see it on YouTube. 654 00:33:53,831 --> 00:33:54,665 Outlaw star. 655 00:33:54,665 --> 00:33:57,068 I will fund that and make sure to share it. That is one. 656 00:33:57,068 --> 00:33:58,836 Yeah, you. You'll enjoy it. 657 00:33:58,836 --> 00:34:02,573 And once you know that it's my voice, once you then you'll go, oh yeah, of course. 658 00:34:02,907 --> 00:34:05,910 Why did I not see that before? 659 00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:08,379 I got it, All right. 660 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,214 So everybody, I want to make sure you guys are heading 661 00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,183 to the description in the podcast. Right now. 662 00:34:12,183 --> 00:34:14,018 We're gonna be checking out a rogue's tail. 663 00:34:14,018 --> 00:34:16,854 The audiobook is fantastic. If not, make sure you pick up the paperback. 664 00:34:16,854 --> 00:34:19,290 We have a new film in the works. 665 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:20,858 We have a new album coming soon. 666 00:34:20,858 --> 00:34:23,027 How long should we be waiting for that album? 667 00:34:23,027 --> 00:34:25,763 It's going to be in the next, I would say five months, 668 00:34:25,763 --> 00:34:29,967 because I'd like to have one of them come out before season two. 669 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:34,205 So one of them will come out before season two in the summer. 670 00:34:34,806 --> 00:34:40,711 And I'm also, to be honest, working on a, I'm working on an animated, series 671 00:34:41,312 --> 00:34:44,882 that I'm developing based on my father's children's books. 672 00:34:45,850 --> 00:34:47,919 And my father passed away a couple of years ago. 673 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,654 I talk about that in the book later on. 674 00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:53,591 I won't ruin it for you, but he basically handed me his mantle 675 00:34:54,192 --> 00:34:58,563 and I said, could I write more of your Aussie six books about these 676 00:34:58,963 --> 00:35:02,834 little Australian Australian animals that go on adventures around the world? 677 00:35:03,201 --> 00:35:04,836 He said yes. 678 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:08,806 And, so, not only am I going to be writing more of the books for children, 679 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,943 but I'm going to be turning it into an animated series, 680 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:15,780 so that's a lot of fun to, yeah, that is there's a lot going on. 681 00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:19,317 Yeah. Keep his legacy alive. 682 00:35:19,317 --> 00:35:22,320 Yes. And creating a legacy for yourself, 683 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,089 for others to follow as well, which is very important as well. 684 00:35:25,089 --> 00:35:27,692 All the links in the description, guys, 685 00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:30,661 make sure you follow up, including following Lenore on social media. 686 00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:33,331 Really great. Instagram. I'll throw that out there at the last minute. 687 00:35:33,331 --> 00:35:34,365 Thank you. It's a good it's a great. 688 00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:35,633 Yeah. 689 00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:38,436 You never know what I'm going to throw up on there right. 690 00:35:38,436 --> 00:35:38,903 It's fun. 691 00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:39,570 It's fun. 692 00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:42,573 You know. And all the different outfits. 693 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:43,741 Yeah. 694 00:35:43,741 --> 00:35:45,843 And you're all over the place. Do you like this Comic-Con over there? 695 00:35:45,843 --> 00:35:48,279 And that Comic-Con over there, like, oh, I wish I was in the area. 696 00:35:48,279 --> 00:35:49,914 I know, I know. 697 00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:51,516 Yeah, 698 00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:51,949 yeah. 699 00:35:51,949 --> 00:35:54,018 I get to be like a little girl again. 700 00:35:54,018 --> 00:35:57,321 One of my favorite things to do when I was a little girl was dress up. 701 00:35:57,855 --> 00:36:00,658 So that's why I think cosplayers and I 702 00:36:00,658 --> 00:36:04,862 have a lot in common, because we all love to dress up 703 00:36:04,862 --> 00:36:09,600 and make things and, you know, and give each other's inspiration. 704 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,603 So I love the cosplay community. 705 00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:14,906 Oh me too. Their dedication to their passion. 706 00:36:14,906 --> 00:36:16,707 It's yeah, it's a lot of fun. 707 00:36:16,707 --> 00:36:18,743 They are so talented. 708 00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:20,811 Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. 709 00:36:20,811 --> 00:36:22,146 It's incredible. 710 00:36:22,146 --> 00:36:24,048 Lenore, I want to thank you so much for joining me today. 711 00:36:24,048 --> 00:36:26,617 It's been a blast. Appreciate it. Yeah. 712 00:36:26,617 --> 00:36:27,752 You too, my friend. 713 00:36:27,752 --> 00:36:32,223 And, I will see you sometime at some Comic-Con somewhere. 714 00:36:32,223 --> 00:36:34,025 I'm sure. I'm sure. 715 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,059 Yeah. Okay. 716 00:36:35,059 --> 00:36:38,129 I know you've met my co-host who was supposed to be, with you today. 717 00:36:38,129 --> 00:36:41,032 Thomas. This is his description. He's got the metal hand. 718 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,767 He says he's seen you a few times at Comic-Con 719 00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:44,502 and just absolutely loves talking to you every day. 720 00:36:44,502 --> 00:36:46,003 Very cool. 721 00:36:46,003 --> 00:36:48,506 Okay, well, I'll be seeing you guys. 722 00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:50,508 Yeah. Sayonara. 723 00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:51,275 See you there. 724 00:36:51,275 --> 00:36:52,543 All right, everybody, make sure you guys follow 725 00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:54,245 the links in description, and I'll see you on the next one. 726 00:36:54,245 --> 00:36:55,646 Bye bye.