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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Welcome to the Business Credit and Financing Show.

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Each week, we talk about the growth strategies

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that matter most to entrepreneurs.

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Listen in as we discuss the secrets to

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getting credit and money to start and grow

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your business.

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And enjoy as we talk with seasoned business

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owners, coaches, and industry leaders on a variety

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of topics from advertising and marketing to the

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nuts and bolts of running a highly successful

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business.

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And now, to introduce the host of our

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show, financial expert and award-winning author, Ty

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Crandall.

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Hello, and thanks for joining us today.

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I'm super excited you could be here.

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Look, today we're gonna help you attract premium

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clients.

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We're gonna help you actually scale your expertise

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and then do so, getting like the best

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paying clients that you can actually get for

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your business.

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And to be able to help to make

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this happen, we have the foremost expert, Amanda

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Watts, with us.

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She actually helps advise service professionals to stop

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doing the work and start actually advising around

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it.

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So through her company, the Business Advisor Academy,

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she helps advisors, she helps consultants, accountants, and

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CFOs actually escape the time for money trap

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and build lean, profitable, and scalable business.

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Now, her actual approach turns expertise into structured,

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high-value offers that attract premium clients, meaning

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like the ones that pay you the most

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money, right?

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Command premium prices and also create the freedom

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to focus on strategy and growth as well.

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So with her Scalable Six Framework, which we're

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gonna dive into here shortly, she actually teaches

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clients to design businesses that build for freedom,

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not just revenue.

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She's got a few different models that are

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awesome that we're gonna be going over today

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and actually help 10 hours per week of

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client delivery and make a ton of money

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in the process, prove that success comes from

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systems, not stress.

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So every element from positioning and pricing to

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promotion works together like a finely tuned engine

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to maximize profit and independence.

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Amanda's also the host of the Business Advisor

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Podcast.

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You've gotta check this out, it's phenomenal.

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And the author of the forthcoming book, Built

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for Freedom, where she shares stories and strategies

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from entrepreneurs who actually design businesses that serve

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their lives and not the other way around.

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Amanda, what's up?

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Thanks for joining us today.

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Thank you so much.

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What an amazing introduction.

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My gosh, never heard it said quite as

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quickly either.

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So it's great to be here.

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I think we're gonna cover a lot, very

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excited.

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I say everything quick, and then I was

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looking at part of this and then it

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gave like the money in like pounds or

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like whatever your currency is over the years.

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I just completely got tripped up.

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I just like skipped that whole part because

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I was like, I don't know how to

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do the conversion in my head right now.

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Don't you worry, don't you worry.

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Just always just change pounds to dollars.

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It's simple, it's simple, so.

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Well, I don't know if the dollar's up

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right now or not.

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So I didn't want to get into that,

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but it's good to see because you're over

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there in London right now.

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I am, and it's really freaking cold.

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It's like minus degrees at the moment.

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We woke up this morning and was like,

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let's all just go back to bed.

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But no, we didn't, we went to work

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instead.

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I live in Tampa, Florida.

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So I don't talk to anybody around here

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when it's cold elsewhere about our weather because

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then they kind of get upset with me

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and frustrated when they know how nice it

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is down here.

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But I hope that it warms up over

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there for you.

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I don't mind.

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I like the cold.

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It's not a bad thing.

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It's not a bad thing, but thank you.

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So you built for freedom.

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You have, tell me some of the background

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behind this whole strategy.

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Yeah, so the background is I did not

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build for freedom.

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I built what I call a monster business.

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So for many years, I built what the

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gurus told me to build, which was build

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something big, multi-million pounds, have loads of

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team, have loads of revenue, have very little

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profits.

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They failed to tell me that bit.

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So I was overworked.

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I was underpaid.

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I built a big agency and on the

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outside, everyone was like, Amanda, you've done amazingly.

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I looked like really successful, but on the

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inside, I was dying.

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I was burning out.

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I was exhausted.

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I didn't have freedom.

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I was working seven days a week.

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I had a huge bloated team and my

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team, oh my gosh, I don't know if

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you have the same problem.

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I don't have this problem anymore because I

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don't have a big team, but team is

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really hard work.

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They have boyfriend troubles.

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They have husband troubles.

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They have life troubles.

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They have parent troubles.

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They have kid troubles.

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They have all these troubles that have nothing

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to do with business, but leak into the

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business.

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And what I realized was that I was

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becoming a babysitter instead of actually running a

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business.

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And I couldn't cope.

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I know that some people are born to

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have a huge team, but I wasn't born

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to have a huge team.

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And I felt that I was losing my

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freedom.

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I felt what I created to give me

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a life wasn't giving me a life and

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stealing everything from me.

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So I decided, do you know what?

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I'm going to burn it all down and

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start again.

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I was laying in bed.

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I was burnt out.

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I screamed to my husband.

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I was like, I can't do this anymore.

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I can't get out of bed.

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I can't go to work today.

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And we just decided to shut the business

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down.

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We shut it down and I said, I'm

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building differently.

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Now I'm very fortunate that because I'd already

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built a business, I knew how to build

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a business, right?

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So that's something that when you, even if

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you make mistakes, you learn from those mistakes.

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So the second time I decided to crank

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up and really go, who do I want

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to help?

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What do I help them?

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What do I want to help them with?

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How do I get out of doing the

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work?

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Because that's what you need a huge team

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for.

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And then how do I educate them and

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empower them to have success on their own

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with my guidance so that I can free

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up my time and make a bigger impact

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without having to have a huge team to

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do it.

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And that's when I created the Built for

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Freedom methodology.

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And it all came down to systemizing, productizing

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and scaling through getting my knowledge out into

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the world.

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And that's what I help others do now

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as well.

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And it's been very fun and exciting.

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I love everything you said.

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And I can relate to that because I

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think as an entrepreneur, you want to build

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a really successful big business.

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And then, and maybe it's for some people,

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but when you get there, it kind of

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sucks.

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I'm like, this is ridiculous.

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It's a lot of work, it's exhausting.

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And a lot of people, not just myself,

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and you included, want to get back to

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this world where you have high profit margins

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and way smaller manageable business with way less

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customers and way less employees.

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Like once you get there, you're like, please

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take me back.

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It's astonishing.

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So what do you do?

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Because the other part that you touched upon

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that I love, one of my business, my

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buddies had like a $20 million business and

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he just shut that down and moved on.

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And one of the things he said, he

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said, it's really hard to be on the

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servicing and sales side both, right?

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And I was like, there's a lot of

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truth to that.

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When you're trying to cover both of those

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areas, it's what requires the big team.

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It's requires the stress.

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So now that you made that realization, like

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what did you do to be able to

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solve the problem?

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your product that you're going to sell and

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how can you sell it in a scalable

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way?

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How can you deliver it in a scalable

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way?

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in a scalable way without having to hire

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loads of people?

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So what I did was go, I'm not

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building a business for sale.

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So I think it's something like 20%

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of businesses that go to market for sale

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actually become sold.

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So I was like, I'm not going to

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buy into that dream.

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I'm going to create something that gives me

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wealth now, which means I need to have

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massive profits, which means I can't afford a

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big team, which means I need to be

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clever and systemize and productize everything so that

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it's either automated, delegated to a consultant who

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can do it or just cut.

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There is so much in business we don't

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need to do.

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There's so many things that we do because

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we think we should do, but actually we

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don't need to be doing.

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We don't need to run reports every five

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minutes.

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We don't need to be posting on social

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media in a way that isn't scalable every

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five minutes.

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There's so much that we don't need to

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do that we've been told that we should

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be doing to be a busy for.

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So I actually only deliver.

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So I do delivery, I do sales, I

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do marketing all myself.

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So even though you say it's really hard,

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I do all of that myself.

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I only deliver to clients six hours a

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week for three weeks out of four.

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That's it.

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So my client delivery is about 18 hours

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every single month.

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That's it.

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That then gives me 10 hours a week

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to do marketing and the marketing attracts those

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high value clients.

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So marketing actually is my biggest lever for

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enabling me to grow this freedom business.

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So I do 10 hours a week of

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marketing.

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That could be webinars.

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That could be podcasts like this.

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I'm recording my own podcast.

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It could be interviews I do with people.

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It could be standing on stages.

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I'm not a big person to go out.

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I'm quite an introvert.

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I like my house and I'm quite a

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homely person.

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So a lot of my marketing is done

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this side of the screen, but I can

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do marketing and delivery and sales in about

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20 hours a week.

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I don't work Fridays and the first full

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week of every single month I have off.

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So it means that I know on beginning

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of August next year, I can have a

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holiday.

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Beginning of September, I can have a holiday.

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Beginning of October, I can have a holiday.

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I get 12 weeks holiday a year if

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I want to, or I can just sit

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in bed because it's cold.

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I mean, that is really brilliant strategy.

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And it's interesting, it's like 900 something episodes

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and I never even, it's such a simple

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concept, but I've never heard it.

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And I never even thought about just building

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for wealth now versus actually building to exit

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because everybody builds to exit.

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And you talked about that, like only a

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certain percentage of the 20, but you didn't

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even talk about all the people that want

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to sell and never end up, like the

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percentage is overwhelming of people that think they'll

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sell their businesses and never end up selling

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those businesses.

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Exactly.

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And the great thing is, is because I'm

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doing what I love and the people that

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I work with are doing what they love,

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they don't want to retire at 60 or

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70 or 80.

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They actually like doing consulting.

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Like I can't imagine you Ty ever saying,

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oh, I don't want to talk about business.

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The moment I turn 60, I'm stopping talking

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about business.

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I'm going to sell my business and never

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do it.

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No, when we are business owners, we often

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have a passion around doing something like this.

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So why don't we build something that enables

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us to take the money out, to buy

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our houses, put into our pension, live a

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great life now while we have the energy.

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And then when we're 60 or 70, if

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we want to keep on working, it's really

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easy because we're only working six hours a

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week, right?

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We've built our reputation.

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When we're at that age, we get everything

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through referrals.

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Right now, we've got time to do the

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marketing.

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So it is amazing.

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It means you pay off your house before

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you've retired.

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It means that you're not relying on your

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pension because you've taken money out and you've

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got the pension, but you've also lived the

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life.

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You don't wait till you're 65 or 70

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to go on a cruise.

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You go on a cruise now because you've

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got time to go on a cruise because

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you're building a freedom business.

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Freedom comes now, not in the future.

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Every single day you have freedom.

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I love everything about what you're saying.

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We're going to choose the right product.

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We're going to come in and minimize staff.

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So focus on the sales, the marketing, the

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stuff that actually makes the money, and then

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focus a smaller percentage of time on the

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actual execution.

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So, and really a high profitable business, which

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means minimal expenses.

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It all makes perfect sense.

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Now, how does this Scalable Six framework fit

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into figuring this whole thing out?

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Yeah, really good question.

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So the Scalable Six is six sections, six

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milestones that you have to make sure that

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you have hit.

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And I want to talk a little bit

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about niching, niching here in the UK, but

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I'll call it niching as I'm speaking to

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an American because the first part of the

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Scalable Six is getting clear on who is

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your ideal person, okay?

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And by ideal person, it's who is it

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that you are able to serve?

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So you've taken all of your experience, you've

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taken all of your education, you've taken who

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you are as a person, who's best fit

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for you?

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And all of that knowledge and all of

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that experience.

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And it's not just anyone with a business,

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you decide who you serve, the state where

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they are at in their business, the pains

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that wake them up at three o'clock

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in the morning, the future they actually want.

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And you say, who am I the obvious

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advisor for?

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Now, interestingly, I'm a really good advisor to

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accountants and bookkeepers and CFOs and consultants who

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are really good with the money.

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So I know a lot of your listeners

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will be money-based and they're really good

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clients for me because I am obsessed by

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data, systemizing processes.

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I'm obsessed by making sure everything I do

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is profit-driven.

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So I'm in my bank accounts every single

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day.

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I need to work with people that are

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as obsessed as I am because what I

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teach them means you have to be obsessed

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about your time and the money, right?

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So my question would be to your listeners

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is who is a really good client for

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you?

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Who's obsessed with the things that you're obsessed

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with or who wants what you can give

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them?

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And when you get clear on that, it

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might be an industry niche, it might be

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a person's personality, it might be that you

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want to be the local business advisor.

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So where you are in Tampa, maybe you

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just want to be the person that saves

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every business in Tampa, which means you're on

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a mission.

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So then you create a mission-worthy following,

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okay?

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And they all come together and you uplift

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Tampa and that's absolutely fine because that is

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who you're the obvious advisor for, right?

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So that's the first thing that you have

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to do is get clear on your person.

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Then you have to decide, well, what's your

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positioning?

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So then how do I show up in

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the market?

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Well, I show up in the market as

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the person that helps advisors or helps people

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doing the work to become advisors.

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How do you show up in the market?

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So how are your listeners showing up and

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saying, this is what I specialize in, this

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is the transformation I give my clients and

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this is who I am and how I

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am.

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Now, positioning is also a little bit about

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branding and I'd like to just share a

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story with your listeners.

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Well, actually a metaphor, not a story, to

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help you understand.

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So do you have Bic pens over in

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the States?

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Do you know what I mean by a

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Bic pen?

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Yeah, great.

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So you've got Bic pens, you've got Parker

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pens and then you've got Montblanc pens, okay?

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Montblanc pens.

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You've got them all right here in front

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of me.

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You've got them all there, right.

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Okay, amazing.

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That's absolutely perfect.

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So when one buys a Bic pen, it

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is because they can throw it in their

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bag, they can throw it around, they can

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lose it if they want to.

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It costs them 10 pence.

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It's super easy.

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I need to write something.

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Give me a pen.

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Anyone got a pen?

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You get past a Bic pen, absolutely fine.

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Then you have a Parker pen.

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Now, a Parker pen is often the first

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pen that you'll buy for yourself or get

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as a present to kind of go, hey,

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you're becoming a bit of a grownup.

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Let me give you something nice.

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Your parents might get it for you.

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Grandparents might get it for you, but it's

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a gift.

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It's gift-worthy, but it's not like, oh

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my gosh, that's amazing.

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It's like, hey, thanks, I've got a pen

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and it weighs a bit heavier than my

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Bic kind of thing.

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Then you've got the Montblanc, which is the

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creme de la creme.

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It means something.

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It's like having a Rolex, okay?

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The kind of people who want a Montblanc

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is someone who goes, I've achieved something.

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This is amazing.

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I want to be sophisticated.

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I want to have something that represents my

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achievements.

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It makes you feel good when you use

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the Montblanc.

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So there's different levels of pens and there's

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different levels of businesses.

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You've got businesses that market themselves as the

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Bic.

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You've got businesses that market themselves as the

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Parker and you've got businesses that market themselves

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as the Montblanc.

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If you want to have a freedom business,

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you cannot be a Bic.

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It's as simple as that because it's low

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priced, mass market, you are throwaway.

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You're going to get lost amongst everybody else.

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You can market yourself as a Parker if

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you want to.

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However, you still are competing with people that

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kind of go, can I afford it this

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month?

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Can't I afford it this month?

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So if we can position ourselves between a

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Parker and a Montblanc, then we start to

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attract those premium clients.

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Now, what I want to get across here

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is that it's about how you make someone

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feel as much as what the job does,

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okay?

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Because a Bic pen does the same job

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as a Montblanc, but a Montblanc makes you

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feel blimmin' awesome when you use it, okay?

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So that's what I mean by positioning.

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Who's your ideal client and how are you

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going to position yourself so that you don't

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sound like every accountant, bookkeeper, business advisor, and

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how are you going to make people feel

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amazing?

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So that's it.

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Do you want to ask me questions before

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I go on?

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Yeah, I do.

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I want to jump back because here's what

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I think is interesting is I think ideal

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person is skipped past a lot of people's

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cases, but I also think it's where people

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struggle the most because a lot of people

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really do not even know who they're truly

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trying to market to.

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And everybody wants to skip it.

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They don't understand their avatar.

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They don't understand their target market.

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Then they're out there just marketing a shotgun

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approach to anybody that will respond.

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Then they attract people and they attract the

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big people, right?

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Like they just attract the big.

550
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Yeah, because what they're saying doesn't cut through

551
00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:17,980
and reach the higher caliber of client.

552
00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:20,860
So they market to everybody and they get

553
00:16:20,860 --> 00:16:21,260
everybody.

554
00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:23,660
And the first thing, I guarantee the messages

555
00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:25,900
of those who market to everyone is how

556
00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:27,440
much do you cost and what do you

557
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,660
sell?

558
00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:28,840
That's all they'll ask.

559
00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:31,500
That's all they'll ask because they don't understand

560
00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,300
what that person can do for them different

561
00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:34,180
from the other.

562
00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,220
And I think business coach is a really

563
00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:37,880
good example of that because you call yourself

564
00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,820
a business coach or business coaches, what differentiates

565
00:16:40,820 --> 00:16:41,020
them?

566
00:16:41,340 --> 00:16:43,300
What differentiates one business coach from another?

567
00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,460
It's gotta be who you help in your

568
00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:47,920
specialism, how you help them and your positioning

569
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,940
so that people know that you're the right

570
00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:51,900
caliber for them.

571
00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:53,620
So what advice do you give for somebody

572
00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:54,800
right there on step one?

573
00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:57,500
Like what advice do you give them to

574
00:16:57,500 --> 00:17:00,020
find out who they really want to market

575
00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,860
to when they think they have a product

576
00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:03,740
but it could apply to so many different

577
00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:04,780
demographics of people?

578
00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,280
Yeah, really good question.

579
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594
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Do your ideal client have a problem that

595
00:17:38,580 --> 00:17:39,320
you can solve?

596
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,900
So who has a problem that you can

597
00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:41,120
solve?

598
00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:44,960
So for you, for example, your ideal client

599
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,000
is one of two people.

600
00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:47,720
It could be the end user or it

601
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,060
could be a partnership that gets you to

602
00:17:50,060 --> 00:17:51,260
the end user, okay?

603
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,740
So then your niche might be partnerships like

604
00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:55,960
me, for example, okay?

605
00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,880
Or it could be I'm gonna market to

606
00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,060
the end user and then you get clear

607
00:17:59,060 --> 00:18:00,140
on who that end user is.

608
00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:02,460
Then we say, so who are they?

609
00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,820
And do they have a problem that you

610
00:18:04,820 --> 00:18:05,540
can help them with?

611
00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:08,380
Then we say, can they afford to pay

612
00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:09,620
to overcome that problem?

613
00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:13,120
Then we say, do they actually see you

614
00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,000
as the person that can advise them?

615
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:17,200
And then the other one that I absolutely

616
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,000
love is can you get in front of

617
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,200
them?

618
00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:21,660
Because it might be great for you to,

619
00:18:21,860 --> 00:18:23,960
or our listeners to say, oh, I really

620
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,720
want to help people who make napkins for

621
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,820
the general public.

622
00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:31,300
I don't know where that came from.

623
00:18:31,420 --> 00:18:32,200
I've just made that up.

624
00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:34,840
How the hell do you find people who

625
00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,980
want to buy napkins without having to broadcast

626
00:18:37,980 --> 00:18:40,360
everywhere and hope that you hit someone?

627
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,920
There are groups of people that get together

628
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,320
and go to napkin conferences, right?

629
00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:48,340
However, there are groups of people that are

630
00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:49,880
lawyers, that are accountants.

631
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,040
There are groups of people that are entrepreneurial.

632
00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:54,020
So it might be that you work with

633
00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:55,720
a certain kind of entrepreneur with a certain

634
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,660
kind of revenue and you can get in

635
00:18:57,660 --> 00:18:58,080
front of them.

636
00:18:58,140 --> 00:18:59,260
So you look at the conferences.

637
00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:02,320
So when my clients go and choose, I

638
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,660
like to say they have a problem.

639
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,040
You can easily find them.

640
00:19:05,340 --> 00:19:06,520
You can easily get in front of them.

641
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,720
They can afford you and you can help

642
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,380
them with a problem.

643
00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:12,700
However, there are other things as well.

644
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960
So they're the four main ones.

645
00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,720
If they already have clients and we're going,

646
00:19:17,860 --> 00:19:20,060
right, who in your client base is the

647
00:19:20,060 --> 00:19:21,540
opposite of a vampire client?

648
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,860
So who doesn't suck the life out of

649
00:19:23,860 --> 00:19:24,040
you?

650
00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:25,660
Now make a list of them.

651
00:19:26,060 --> 00:19:28,080
And then we go, do they pay you

652
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,480
on time?

653
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,880
Do they enjoy paying you?

654
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,360
Do you like hanging out with them?

655
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,860
And you start to ask a few nuanced

656
00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,340
questions that help you get deeper.

657
00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:38,000
So everything I do is in a spreadsheet

658
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,380
and we just mark one out of 10.

659
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,880
So we have all of these things on

660
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,720
the left hand side of the questions that

661
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,480
we should be asking.

662
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,580
Can they afford us?

663
00:19:44,780 --> 00:19:45,460
Can we help them?

664
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,400
Can we find them?

665
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,900
And then we just mark out of 10

666
00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:50,360
on a spreadsheet, answering all of those to

667
00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,460
go with your clients that you currently work

668
00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:52,660
with.

669
00:19:52,860 --> 00:19:54,180
And it spits out a number and you

670
00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:55,460
go for the number that's got the highest

671
00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:55,720
score.

672
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:56,640
Simple as that.

673
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,960
Don't overthink it.

674
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,900
And if you can't make a decision, I'll

675
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:01,800
make the decision for you, because I know

676
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,560
loads of different niches and I know which

677
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,960
ones are easy and which ones are hard.

678
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,100
Sounds really easy when I say it like

679
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:07,340
that.

680
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,860
Yeah, it does.

681
00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:10,360
But the way you have a system, I

682
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,520
think it simplifies it.

683
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,240
So let's say we have the right person

684
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,140
and now we've figured out our positioning.

685
00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:16,460
Then what's the next step?

686
00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:17,440
What are we working on next?

687
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,720
Yeah, really good question.

688
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,360
This is my favorite bit, which is your

689
00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:20,800
product.

690
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,880
So a lot of my clients are service

691
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,380
providers and they go, oh, how can we

692
00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:26,240
create a product?

693
00:20:26,380 --> 00:20:27,280
We don't have products.

694
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,760
So what I want your clients to think

695
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,940
about is when they package up their services,

696
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,300
I want them to think about taking everything

697
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,880
that they do and putting it into a

698
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,840
beautiful box.

699
00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:39,900
So we productize what they do.

700
00:20:40,020 --> 00:20:41,800
OK, so we take all of their knowledge,

701
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,820
all of their experience.

702
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,740
We look at their ideal client and the

703
00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:46,580
journey that they need to go on to

704
00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,300
go from the pain to the solution, that

705
00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:50,600
journey that they go on.

706
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,540
We call it a signature methodology, that signature

707
00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:54,200
methodology.

708
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,460
We put a box around it and tie

709
00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:57,880
it in a bow and we call it

710
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:58,260
something.

711
00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:01,080
And it takes people from pain to solution.

712
00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:03,180
And when I put a box around it

713
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,700
and tie it in a bow, I often

714
00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:07,220
think of the Tiffany box because you want

715
00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:09,620
to present it of something of that caliber.

716
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:12,040
You can create crap products.

717
00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:12,880
Pardon my French.

718
00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:14,380
You can create stuff that's rubbish.

719
00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:16,860
So what we have to do is test

720
00:21:16,860 --> 00:21:18,840
whether or not that product's any good by

721
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,760
taking it to market, getting feedback, iterating it,

722
00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:23,380
making it better, making it better.

723
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,260
So the product I have now is way

724
00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:26,560
better than the product I had 10 years

725
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:26,780
ago.

726
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,760
I wish it wasn't.

727
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,340
I wish I was amazing 10 years ago.

728
00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:31,820
But I've iterated, iterated and iterated to have

729
00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:32,740
something world class.

730
00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:35,380
But without getting all of your knowledge and

731
00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:37,860
all of your experience out and combining that

732
00:21:37,860 --> 00:21:39,920
with your ideal client and creating the methodology,

733
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,220
we can't productize.

734
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,980
Once we've got that methodology, we then break

735
00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:46,880
it down into different stages and then we

736
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,960
productize each of those little stages.

737
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,080
Each of those stages have their own model,

738
00:21:51,180 --> 00:21:53,700
their own methodology, their own worksheets, their own

739
00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:54,180
processes.

740
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,900
So that you can wake up tomorrow morning

741
00:21:56,900 --> 00:22:00,080
without any need to do any prep because

742
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,060
you know exactly who your client is, where

743
00:22:02,060 --> 00:22:04,200
they are on your journey, on your method,

744
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,660
and you just go, I need these worksheets

745
00:22:06,660 --> 00:22:08,260
today and you sit down and you help

746
00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:08,440
them.

747
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,580
So I can show up anywhere and I

748
00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:12,880
won't know what the conversation is going to

749
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,740
be, but I've got a worksheet for it.

750
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,640
I've got a method for it.

751
00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:16,500
I've got a model for it.

752
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,920
I've got a metaphor for it.

753
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,480
Everything.

754
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,460
We call them delivery snapshots and I've just

755
00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:23,060
got it all packaged up and it's amazing.

756
00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:26,460
So I just, I'm a walking product myself.

757
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:27,260
I love it.

758
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,420
Now, do you think that because product and

759
00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:30,640
services are different, right?

760
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,300
And so what you're doing seems like it'd

761
00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:34,860
be hard to deliver a service.

762
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,080
It easier to deliver a product.

763
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,600
No, it's service.

764
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560
So if you think about a marketing agency,

765
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,920
a marketing agency runs Facebook ads, for example.

766
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,180
But instead of running the Facebook ads, you

767
00:22:47,180 --> 00:22:49,100
train your clients how to run their own

768
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,720
Facebook ads and then you can have Q

769
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,800
&A sessions with them where they can ask

770
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,260
questions.

771
00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:56,240
It's a little bit like if you give

772
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,480
a man a fish, you feed him for

773
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,820
a day.

774
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,460
If you teach a man to fish, you

775
00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:00,280
feed him for a lifetime.

776
00:23:00,620 --> 00:23:02,060
When you do the work for your clients,

777
00:23:02,140 --> 00:23:03,140
you're giving them fish.

778
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,620
When you teach them how to do it

779
00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:06,600
themselves, you're feeding them for a lifetime.

780
00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:09,860
Now I have spent all in all about

781
00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:13,340
£150,000, pounds, dollars.

782
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,060
Let's interchange them, probably pounds on Facebook ad

783
00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:17,520
agencies.

784
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,240
They have done a terrible, terrible job.

785
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,080
Wasted, wasted.

786
00:23:22,580 --> 00:23:23,820
And every time I go, do you know

787
00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:23,980
what?

788
00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:25,220
I'm just going to do it because this

789
00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:26,940
one will be different and it's not.

790
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,500
But the best people that have helped me

791
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,320
with Facebook ads and I've got great success

792
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,420
now is someone when you need to do

793
00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:34,880
this, then you need to do this, then

794
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,960
you need to do this and you need

795
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,600
to tweak this.

796
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,020
And they taught me how to do it

797
00:23:38,020 --> 00:23:38,520
in house.

798
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,620
So now I've got, I've actually hired my

799
00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:40,880
son.

800
00:23:40,940 --> 00:23:42,560
So the great thing about building a business

801
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,540
for freedom, you can hire your family, right?

802
00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:45,960
So I've hired my son.

803
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:47,760
He's learning how to do Facebook ads.

804
00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:49,820
He runs all of that for me and

805
00:23:49,820 --> 00:23:50,560
it's amazing.

806
00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:53,160
I didn't self-teach Facebook ads.

807
00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:55,180
I hired someone to teach us and now

808
00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:55,980
we can do it ourselves.

809
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,700
Nobody is more invested in your business than

810
00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:00,380
yourself.

811
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,320
OK, my son is invested in my business

812
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,080
because he just sees inheritance pounds.

813
00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:04,880
All right.

814
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,780
So like you can't get anyone more invested

815
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:08,260
than you.

816
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:09,720
So learn how to do it.

817
00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,800
Teach other people how to do it and

818
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,620
they will be invested.

819
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,360
But you have to have the right clients,

820
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,360
the ones who take action, who listen, who

821
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,720
are coachable and want to learn.

822
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,440
I love it.

823
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,780
Yeah, I think so.

824
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:21,940
When you're somebody who's building the right product,

825
00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:23,460
do you think that that is the right

826
00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,620
that that's the best strategy is to teach

827
00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:27,880
them to do it instead of doing it

828
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,300
for them?

829
00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:29,920
Because it seems like a lot of people

830
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,280
would be afraid that if you teach them

831
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,120
to do it, that the turnover that client

832
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,060
would be faster, right?

833
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,300
Because once you teach them, then they're kind

834
00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:37,060
of gone versus if you're doing it for

835
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:38,240
them, where they kind of become reliant.

836
00:24:38,380 --> 00:24:39,060
It's more sticky.

837
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,300
Somebody may actually say.

838
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Yeah.

839
00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:43,380
So I think being a PT is a

840
00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:44,900
really good example of this.

841
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,280
So we all hire personal trainers because you

842
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:47,480
know what?

843
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,760
The most difficult thing for us to do

844
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,740
is get out of bed, go for a

845
00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:52,520
run and do the weights.

846
00:24:52,940 --> 00:24:56,580
So the reason why actually teaching your clients

847
00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:59,100
to do this yourself is so amazing is

848
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,480
because they won't do it without accountability, without

849
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,940
having someone to ask, without someone having their

850
00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:05,200
back.

851
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,900
So when I get a client, I finish

852
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:09,880
my sales conversations with two questions.

853
00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:12,180
The first question is, do you trust yourself

854
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:12,860
to do the work?

855
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,680
OK, so we first of all, we make

856
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,240
sure that the client is actually going to

857
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,420
take action and then I say, second question,

858
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,520
if they say yes to that.

859
00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:22,360
Second question is, do you trust me to

860
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,280
be the one to help you?

861
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,980
And if they don't say yes to that,

862
00:25:25,260 --> 00:25:26,460
then we're not going to be able to

863
00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:28,060
teach them anything because they're not going to

864
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:28,480
trust me.

865
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,340
So we have to have customer buy in.

866
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,200
Then you know what it's like.

867
00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:33,680
Running a business is never ending.

868
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,280
We need someone in our court.

869
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,820
We need someone to support us.

870
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:40,200
So that's where the business advisor steps in.

871
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,060
Their accountability partner, their goal setting partner, their

872
00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:44,540
oh my gosh, I'm having a bad day

873
00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:44,900
partner.

874
00:25:44,980 --> 00:25:46,140
I need someone to cry to.

875
00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:47,820
Oh my gosh, I've got this amazing win.

876
00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:49,140
I need someone to share it with.

877
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,220
Oh, now I want to expand and learn

878
00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:51,480
this.

879
00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:52,400
Can you teach me?

880
00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:53,160
Yes, I can.

881
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,420
Or you bring in other consultants to help

882
00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:56,860
you if it's something that you're not great

883
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:58,180
at, like HR, for example.

884
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320
OK, so yeah, 100% clients stay with

885
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,780
me for six, seven, eight years.

886
00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:04,800
The average amount of time a client stays

887
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,640
with a marketing agency is four months because

888
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,880
they don't produce, right?

889
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,620
So there's the numbers there.

890
00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:15,280
I am an advisor and I average across

891
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,160
the board USA numbers four months is how

892
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,840
long someone stays with marketing agency.

893
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,800
Don't be scared, don't be scared.

894
00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:23,760
I love it so we get the product,

895
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,980
figure out what's next.

896
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,920
So once we got a product, we got

897
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,500
price it.

898
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:31,080
OK, so the biggest problem that I my

899
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,020
clients have when they come to me is

900
00:26:33,020 --> 00:26:34,240
that they're pricing by the hour.

901
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,080
So when you're running an agency, I'll keep

902
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,240
going back to agency because there's a lot

903
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,260
of them out there and I'm sure that

904
00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:40,060
they're listening to you.

905
00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:42,080
If you're whether you're running an agency or

906
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,340
an accounting business or a bookkeeping business, you're

907
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:45,720
probably charging by the hour.

908
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,500
If you're not charging by the hour, you're

909
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,080
charging by the day or you're pretending to

910
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,180
charge by the product, which is actually you

911
00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:54,880
working out how many hours you are doing

912
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,800
and then you give an overall price and

913
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,920
you call it project pricing.

914
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,400
But actually, it's hourly pricing looking like a

915
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:00,700
project.

916
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,440
So what we have to do is we

917
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,520
have to move away from time based billing

918
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,120
into value based pricing.

919
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,900
But I actually don't want to say value

920
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:10,500
based pricing.

921
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:12,940
I want to say transformational pricing.

922
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,780
So the reason why I want to say

923
00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:17,320
that is because my ideal client is someone

924
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520
who helps their clients make or save money.

925
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,180
OK, if you can help someone make or

926
00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:25,800
save money, then you can charge way more

927
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,200
than an hourly price for your services.

928
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,740
If I said to you, give me 5000

929
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,800
and I'm going to give you 50,000,

930
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,620
you will say, how can I give you

931
00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:38,640
10,000 so I can have 100,000?

932
00:27:39,060 --> 00:27:41,040
Money in equals money out.

933
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:43,120
So what we have to do is uncover

934
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,220
when we create the product, we have to

935
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:49,440
uncover the methodology that clearly articulates the transformation

936
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,120
that their clients are going to have based

937
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,040
around money and time.

938
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,460
The two most precious things in the world

939
00:27:56,460 --> 00:27:58,000
without money and time.

940
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,620
It's very difficult to have freedom and every

941
00:28:00,620 --> 00:28:03,660
single person wants freedom, whether it's time, freedom,

942
00:28:03,780 --> 00:28:06,620
money, freedom, like freedom of stress, any of

943
00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:06,920
that.

944
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,940
If you can help someone make or save

945
00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:11,220
money and make or save time, that's worth

946
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:13,380
a lot of money more than an hourly

947
00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:13,800
rate.

948
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
OK, so the next thing that we do,

949
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:17,880
we've got to get priced properly.

950
00:28:18,140 --> 00:28:20,220
And if we want to attract high caliber

951
00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,260
clients, we have to price accordingly.

952
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,280
If Rolex made a cheap watch, we would

953
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720
be appalled and we would think that they've

954
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,120
broken their brand promise.

955
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,860
I remember back in the early 2000s, Mercedes

956
00:28:33,860 --> 00:28:37,460
bought, brought out an A-class Mercedes.

957
00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:39,440
It's not the A-class Mercedes they have

958
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,200
now, it's an old one.

959
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,940
And I was, I think I was like

960
00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,600
25 years old, 2000.

961
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Yeah, I was 25 in 2000.

962
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,200
And my parents had a Mercedes that I

963
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,860
wanted a Mercedes.

964
00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:50,680
I couldn't afford their Mercedes, so I bought

965
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,380
the A-class.

966
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,420
The problem with the A-class is because

967
00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:56,100
they priced it cheap, affordable for someone like

968
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:56,420
me.

969
00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:57,760
It was crap, OK?

970
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880
They broke their brand promise and people stopped

971
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560
buying Mercedes, especially here in the UK because

972
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,760
they brought out the A-class and started

973
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,200
to cater for the mass market.

974
00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:09,740
And this is the problem that your pricing

975
00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:12,920
also reflects who your ideal client is and

976
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,820
the people you attract.

977
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,100
And they have tweaked it and they've now

978
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,500
got quite a nice A-class and they

979
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:18,660
don't price it too badly.

980
00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:20,780
But they really ruined their brand promise.

981
00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:21,600
They broke it.

982
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,320
And I bought the A-class and I

983
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,800
felt like an idiot driving around in it

984
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,960
because it wasn't a real Mercedes.

985
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,220
It was a pretend Mercedes, right?

986
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,520
So there you go.

987
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,760
That's what you need to do.

988
00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:32,240
And the only way to make profit is

989
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,980
to price for profit in mind, profit for

990
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:38,020
your clients and profit for you.

991
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,140
Now, I want to talk about one more

992
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:43,020
thing actually around pricing and positioning, if that's

993
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:43,240
OK.

994
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,320
Have you got any questions before I dive

995
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,480
in?

996
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,540
No, no, you're raw on a roll.

997
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,520
All right.

998
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:47,860
Fine.

999
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,600
So there is an acronym that I've created

1000
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,640
called VITAL.

1001
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:52,200
All right.

1002
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:55,320
For you to be able to price and

1003
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,660
position accordingly, you have to be a VITAL

1004
00:29:58,660 --> 00:29:58,980
advisor.
