I don't know where to get fixed.
I am free today. I'm joined by squeaks.
So what? And we got Jonathan.
Hey. Hey, yo.
And if you saw two speakers
left are going to be talking today about Avengers doomsday casting.
We got that Andor trailer. The final trailer for them.
We have some new casting for The Last Airbender movie coming up.
And then we're gonna be discussing this week
the AI fake trailers that are flooding YouTube.
Deadline were an article about that.
We've been discussing about all that and debating that out.
But I want to talk about what we had going on this week.
So unfortunately it was very last minute.
But we got Brian reached out to us and asking us
throw the screener for the movie Holland starring Nicole Kidman.
And so we did.
It was very last minute.
My nerves are fried,
but we had a lot of fun, and I want to thank everybody who came out there.
What did you guys think about the screener?
Yeah, I thought it was cool as I was never able to, you know,
invite everybody in and, you know, get more exposure for the for the movie.
But I actually thought it was a pretty good movie.
Do you want to go out and see it?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I had a blast
just being, you know, with what you said, the number of 52 people
coming to the screening, you just, you know, kind of like pre gaming
on top of, like talking about the movie after the fact and yeah,
it was a blast to be there and yeah enjoy the movie myself.
Yeah I loved it.
And there's we had sex come down.
It was called Meet Them. I never like met them in person.
I've seen them at conventions start to make conventions,
but they actually have Frisco.
The president of the sex Guy
come down and we had James from distance learning come down and stuff like that.
And we also had a lot of friends and family come over and watch it.
It was really cool to see everybody go,
mom of McCain with a shirt with my face on it.
So I was like, okay, great. That was fun.
I'm talking her next screening with the shirt on my face.
There we go. Nice.
Pull that thing off.
I forgot she had it. I was like, oh, my God.
But yeah, it was a blast.
And so I just really want to thank everybody who came out for that
last minute.
We do have a convention
coming up, and I'll talk more about it at the end of this on April 5th.
If you guys want to come out.
We have a big fat prize wheel that I'm like, so proud of my baby boy.
We also have switch. We're going to come out, play.
We're gonna be doing live podcasting.
We got a ton of prizes.
Come hang out with us and celebrate everything.
Geek that's in Rancho Cordova City Hall, and we'll be posting more information
out on our social media.
So please follow us there to follow along. John.
They're going to be joining us for that.
What are you hiding about man
I always like to see cosplay, and that's usually the fun thing
or the vendors that make unique items and stuff like that.
Yeah, well, just the energy to.
Everyone's always so excited to be at a convention,
and you always see kids
that are kind of shy, like,
oh God, I think they're recording a podcast and they're like,
not sure if they want to hook up or something like that.
And so we flag them down, give them some candy or stickers or something like that.
But and people are always so excited to see we got a bunch of prizes.
So it's like, yeah, come over.
Maybe you can talk on the mic for a second, spin
the wheel, see what you get, and just makes it fun.
So yeah, definitely like to be around people
when they're having fun and it's contagious.
Give me a blast.
Tyler from. We haven't seen him in so long. He's been,
he had a baby.
And I guess it takes a lot of time.
I'm not sure that's necessary.
Definitely for the wife,
but Tyler, he's got an game podcast.
He's gonna hop on a mic and talk with us again
and talk about when the show is coming back as of that.
So that'd be a blast.
All right, let's get into the news.
We're gonna start off with that crazy Avengers Doomsday cast reveal.
Now, it was a five hour stream.
Did you either of you guys watch that stream live?
What was happening?
Bits are pieces of it. I'm not saying the whole five hours.
I mean, nobody's dope as me.
Watch the white House.
I think I maybe watched, like, five minutes and saw a name or two,
and then that was. Yeah, that was it. Yeah.
But then, like, just like the news was just flash flooding.
Yeah.
So every about 15 minutes it would, it would play a little music.
And so that was exciting because you trying to figure out
oh was it that song from.
Oh it's, it's the old, you know, 90s X-Men song.
And then here comes Patrick Stewart.
That was really fun.
And they broke a record for live stream.
Can you guess how many people watch that five hour live stream?
Not necessarily all of it, but. Oh goodness gracious.
Millions like 5 million AC.
Right? You have 1880 million.
Here's the number 250 million.
Oh, jeez. I
that's.
Crazy. Insane.
So at the time, I was like, I hate this stupid stunt because
literally I'm like, editing
one of the videos about the stunt while the stunts happening.
And I kind of did two parts for it and stuff like that.
But let's go over some of the cast here.
So we had all the Fantastic Four, Pedro, Vanessa, Joseph and Evan coming back.
So that's that's the Fantastic Four there.
But I think what was really a big surprise to me was the classic X-Men.
So we have Patrick Stewart.
That's our professor X, Ian McKellen.
That's our Magneto.
Rebecca Romain Mystique and Kelsey Grammer.
That's the beast.
We also have Cyclops coming back and we have Alan coming.
Coming back as Nightwing. Nightwing.
Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler.
Thank you. Michael, what do these Nightcrawler have in my opinion?
Do I think that's awesome?
I mean, we've seen the the young generation of them
in the other X-Men movies, but it just doesn't hit the same.
And they're selling nostalgia is sell it like is it is the original cast, right?
Why not?
Yeah, it's almost like came home and tried to like what we grew up on.
And then once we see like that, kind of like with Deadpool, right?
When we saw blade pop in there, Wesley Snipes were like,
oh my gosh, I grew up with that.
So I think that's going to be like the excitement.
We're going to get that same feel good.
I might be like jumping the gun a little bit,
but something that made me questioning some of these casting I'm not casting.
Right.
Because we didn't see like a Ryan Reynolds.
We didn't see like a Tom all in, you know, like I know Brie Larson.
What's going on with these stories? You know?
Well, that's the kind of some interesting stuff, like what's
what's going to what are they doing when it comes to Doom's.
I'm so glad you bring that up,
because Spider-Man four will be taking place during doomsday.
So we're going to have Spider-Man Tom Holland there,
who might have a couple other characters pop up in that,
but I love that because we see that all the time in comic books,
when it's like the Blood Hunt Avengers going on,
then we see our venom wars going on,
then we see what's going on in other comics that have to be going on
doing the Venom War.
They all tie in, and I think that's what this is going to feel like.
So maybe we're going to have this big adventure with the Avengers, right?
Basically reassembling so that they could fight off doomsday.
And clearly other multiverses clashing together
because we have the X-Men coming in and they're right now
with actually, if she wasn't mentioned either, once she
and Monica Rambeau, I don't think she was mentioned.
So that's interesting. But we presume they're all going to be coming together.
Oh, but then we're going to see Spider-Man.
And he's like also fighting a Doom's attack or whatever in New York.
And so they're all going to be combining in some sort of way.
And maybe he'll get a little bit of symbiotes,
try to like also power it up and fighting it
because black suit symbiotes from Secret Wars.
So yeah.
Okay, so you're saying more like a side story than we are
continuation sequence things? Yeah. Okay.
Okay, okay.
And then one of the other things to everybody is like, where's this person?
Was that person?
This is not the endgame.
This is infinity War.
So endgame, secret wars, I presume, where everybody's coming back.
And I think that's where we can get every X-Men back.
And I think that's we're gonna get First class X-Men back as well,
because, I mean, why not get those kids involved?
Whatever.
You know, it was just a few bucks and you get a whole new generation in there, too.
We also have a lot of the Thunderbolts in here with, you know,
Florence Pugh and Wyatt, Russell and all them we have.
So the classics coming back, Chris Hemsworth, Anthony Mackie, Paul Rudd,
Letitia Wright.
So we got similarly coming back guys, about damn time.
Tom Hiddleston.
So that means that Loki is back from the end of Loki season two,
which is absurd.
And then of course, RJ's coming back and he's playing doom.
So first off, I think this casting reveal, while I was upset with it at the time,
it actually worked out quite well
because I think the slow hype throughout the entire day was a smart move.
The fact that we're getting like chunky back to me is a really big deal.
Because election, she was almost forgotten and he should have been.
I think that's one of the better movies and Facebook appreciated for sure.
Yeah. Yeah. For the first half. Yeah, yeah.
And so.
You know.
Nevertheless, in comparison to of the other face for movies, I would say no.
Yeah, I enjoy. Yeah, yeah.
What are we wanting out of this movie?
Are we wanting Doctor Doom to win? Yeah.
But are we going to copy?
Okay, so I would, right? Because.
Oh, man, I don't know. Because then what do they be copying?
Like the formula of like that? I know it's essentially.
I'm afraid of them getting.
Too close to the second one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what do you think trigger
triggers a secret war or doom?
Well, we have they normally have the Molecule Man.
Like usually they'll be killing the molecule Man and combining the universes.
So they'll probably do the anchor being instead
because they already established that with Deadpool and over.
And I was like, why are you guys establishing this Loki thing and Deadpool?
Wolverine. Okay. Because you guys are going to use it soon.
So the robot killing the intervenes, right?
It's combining universes that way, and I, I don't know,
I actually think they might pull off the comic book line,
the panel where doom comes up to Thanos and rips his skeleton out of him
and like, just shows how strong he is.
What do you think is I even do? Yeah,
that'd be pretty interesting to see it back on the screen.
Right. And then just to kind of be like a socket around like.
Yeah, I think so.
Do you think this will be the one, a one off for Robert Downey Junior Doom.
And then maybe he dies in this one.
But he like maybe
leads us like future doom that we're going to get in multiple movies
because I hope we're not getting doom in one movie. Right.
That would be silly.
Yeah, I do miss Doom is the Loki type of villain
you want around for a lot of other movies, and yeah, and I think the doom
that we're going to get in Secret Wars is God, Emperor of Doom.
So a specific doom? Not necessarily.
They didn't know we'll be dealing with all time.
I think that would be best because then got it for doom.
Sure, make it RDJ, that's fine.
But then we need to have Killian Murphy or somebody
that's going to be around for a long time,
I don't think I don't think Robert Downey Jr, just good for that role
to be around for too long.
No, no, no, I think that just be weird as a fan watching these movies like
from So Long, right?
Yeah.
I also think that with the idea of killing Thanos off, like I get what
that point of that was a show of strong doom is got Emperor doom is.
But in doing that, you would negate all the sacrifice that went on during endgame,
which was one of the better impactful moments.
So then all sudden, like Loki's death
and you know, it also like that, to go into that black widow
all of a sudden it's like, oh, okay, well, he's not even that strong
because there's somebody else stronger behind him.
Oh, I mean, we kind of got a little bit of that anyway with the Loki series, right?
Like just the gems are the stones sitting in a door like I who cares?
Then it's like, oh, what their fair.
And it went to clarify when doom did that to Thanos
specifically calls out, do you have your gantlet?
And he says, no, but I don't need it.
And then Doom's like, apparently you do, and rip this skeleton out,
so fair enough.
Yeah, I know that was a big sticking point for you on the Loki series.
Yeah, yeah, the whole series.
Is there
any surprises that you're excited for the most out of this list of cast?
I'm excited to see Nightcrawler coming back.
That's the one that really stood out to me.
The yeah, yeah, original Nightcrawler for me.
Yeah, I agree with it.
Like it's some of the older X-Men and not like some of the maybe even like,
I don't want to say better ones, but maybe the ones that, like Michael
Fassbender's Magneto was like, oh, he was, he's wonderful.
You know, like we're going with the whole mystique and Jennifer Lawrence mystique.
But I know Jennifer Lawrence had like issues with that whole role anyway.
Like, should I want to wear all the makeup stuff?
It's like, okay, then you're just Jennifer Lawrence? Yeah, yeah.
So it's like, okay, I could kind of get rid of things, but get that.
But yeah, I think big surprise for me is seeing old X-Men with new X-Men,
which we kind of got, but on this larger scale, me, you know,
are more of them, like the team coming together, I guess
as way and one and not just like Wolverine with some of the newer ones, you know.
Now there's a, there's.
A younger Cyclops taken league maybe.
Well, yeah.
And I do
want to see a new generation of Cyclops, but I will say that there's
been this thing where they're like, well, let's use this moment.
Great example
is when we saw Patrick Stewart, when we saw professor X in Doctor Strange
Multiverse of Madness. He was in the yellow chair, right?
So he wasn't he wasn't the the professor X that we knew before.
He was actually
animated series one.
Yeah, well, I don't want to spoil too much, guys.
We had a leaked image already, and Cyclops is wearing the blue and yellows.
Yeah, that's not something you would say.
I just want, like, what is the original Cyclops to look at me like?
Oh, you look kind of funny, but it's the blue and yellow, like, we love you.
Like, no, he does it. Okay. Yeah.
If you finally gave me Wolverine and Yellow,
you better put Cyclops in his OG outfit, you know.
And and that leaked image.
And I'm like, you know, with
AI nowadays, you don't know is I really kind of a study of this thing.
And it looks real because it's so shitty,
as you know, is like when I take a picture from two miles away
and he actually has like the yellow pockets on the actual belt
across his chest and him like that, the same exact thing.
So I was just like, yes, that's what I wanted.
Maybe
a restroom.
Sorry. Yeah.
With Alan Cumming playing Nightcrawler.
I mean, let's be honest, he's an old man. I mean, that's that's a rule.
You need to be agile.
So I have a feeling that they're going to use mocap on him
and do kind of what they did with beast at the end of the Marvel's movie.
Okay.
So kind of just was still like in everything, but like, more
talking in standing instead of jump around everything.
Oh, no, it's a beast.
At the end of Marvel's was Kelsey Grammer as Beast, but they also captured
his face and used better person to play beast got their CGI right.
It's I need to go do that.
It's going to be like more CGI but all mocap,
so it'll look real, but it won't be.
So it won't be that makeup that we literally saw next to which
that opening next to what he's like trying to kill the president was so cool.
I hope that they kind of show some of that same combat again.
And with him in here, hopefully they will.
He better be wielding a sword.
I know that much
he can use a stunt double right, to do the more complicated stuff,
and then use his acting for just conversations and stuff.
But then, okay.
Get away from the CGI as much as we can.
Yeah, I mean, we've seen it with like, I mean, how so sexy in advance.
Like the mocap has been even with like avatar,
you know, it's like, oh my goodness gracious.
So I could kind of see them just doing that instead of getting a second person.
Even the thing, the new that is for the thing is gonna be mocap
versus the other thing.
And I think it looks pretty solid,
you know, especially when you see like in the rain scene with the trench coat.
I think that looks amazing. Yeah, I think that's they were going
we got our last trailer for Andor, which is coming out in April.
We're going to go over the April watch list
next week at the convention, guys, so join us there.
But we have our last chance for this trailer.
To me has the correct vibes.
The last one had almost like a Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack.
This one doesn't. And it.
Hey man, we got a lot of Rogue One
and this is definitely leading up right to the real one, so I'm saving Rogue One.
I've been wanting to watch the game, but I'm going to save it
till the after the end of and or be my cap off of it.
What are some of your takes from this gentleman?
It just like you're saying, it has the same vibes from the previous
season, which I was hoping they weren't going to deviate from it too much.
Like that first trailer was kind of misleading, which I love.
Guardians of the Galaxy.
That trailer looked like it was trying to be Guardians but wasn't hitting it.
So like, come on, you guys are going to start playing these classic songs.
You gotta hit the right soundtracks and not be, you know, off at all.
And so I was worried that they were going to, you know, swing, swing far and miss.
But yeah, I mean, it's the same kind of action drama suspense that we're used to.
So I want more of the same stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
I think the visuals are unsung in Andor.
I think a lot of people like they talk about
how good the performances and stories are.
You forget how good the actual visuals are.
This trailer definitely showed this off.
Like the droids look topnotch, the ships, all that stuff.
Definitely movie quality and we need a Star Wars mMORPG
where you can live on course.
Yeah, well, we have one that's just too damn old now at this point.
Old Republic, I really. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah.
Good one. Great.
Yeah. Cause it looks so good in this movie.
You're right. Course. Out with the beautiful movie. Oh my God. Yeah.
Yeah, I think.
Do we need more of these gritty stories?
We talked about how there was a canceled gritty, a a Star Wars
movie pitched by George Lucas right before he sold the company.
I hope they continue this after, and I hope he.
It's not the end of this kind of storytelling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love how we don't need Jedi and Sith and everything like this.
There's so much such a bigger galaxy.
They've already built out so much backstory.
We know, like we saw in that
now, this series with the kids, skeleton crew of the Pirates and all the stuff,
it's like, that's great. That's exactly what we asked.
Well, let's keep giving us some of this and then keep getting them.
The mainstream movies coming out too, with all the Jedis and stuff.
But, you know, build out the backstory of the rest of the galaxy as well.
We love to see it.
Yeah, and building that galaxy, hopefully it just kind of leads into something
massive where like, it's kind of like the Civil War where like,
okay, here's a band of pirates, but guess who's leading?
It's like Hondo, right?
Yeah, it's it's like the most popular characters in these, like, different
groups, you know, and they're coming together.
And that's what I would like to see you, though.
But when you talk about the to the trailer, like, yeah,
the whole trailer seems so serious and like, like everything's at stake.
One of the favorite my things that like, I really enjoy when I watch this
trailer was like, it'll always look like the construction of the destroyer, right?
Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, man, here we go. Right?
But in a sense of where I don't maybe because it's been a while or maybe we,
you know, kind of seen like bad series previously, but it's not war.
I didn't get that tiresome,
you know, of this because, Andor, I really like the season one.
I'm looking forward to season two, but I didn't feel fatigue of
just getting the same shit over and over again. Right?
So hopefully, hopefully like that kind of like, keeps my vibe up.
But yeah, I'm really interested in seeing just like the commitment of him.
Yeah. Being like commitment of him.
Like becoming this leader now and taking it more serious.
And you see him like flying and and stuff like that.
Like yeah he seems like he's on that next chapter.
So yeah.
More about the actual rebel and not about just survival, because
I think the first season is more about him just surviving and starting to do it.
This one seems like he's actually leading a rebel, a rebel, cause,
yeah.
And then, you know, talking about the Jedi aspect of Star Wars,
would you guys be upset if they brought a Jedi into this?
I think if done well, it's okay.
But like, one of the things was Skeleton Crew.
There was one lightsaber.
And because was the only lightsaber, you felt the impact of it being on screen.
It was like, oh, no, you know, is this going to be a dangerous thing?
Yeah.
When normally like acolyte not to talk shit about acolyte every day,
but like, there's so many lightsabers that kind of negated their coolness.
Do we want to see a Jedi pop up an and or.
I think it'd be fine if they brought in the Jedi,
but don't make him the star of the show.
I think it'd be better if it was an apprentice who lost his master.
His master died, or something like that.
So now it's like, okay, I'm kind of rudderless,
you know, I need to find another purpose or somebody to follow or whatever.
And then he joins this ragtag group in the rebellion,
and he's learning so much more than what, you know, his master was very maybe,
you know, proper but entitled and stuff like that.
And now he's learning, like what?
The day to day life of,
you know, the common people looks like and becoming made, you know, more humble.
Like, that'd be cool. Yeah.
I think I would like to see Jedi is, like,
sacrificing themselves, you know, like, maybe like one off.
Maybe that's someone that's been in that, like, that situation
that lost maybe everything because of order 6 to 6 and then order.
And does it have nothing to kind of go for him anymore.
And then he finds his purpose.
But the next thing you know, you kind of like feel for him.
And then next thing you know, he's helping
someone that and that's going to lead to like his demise or whatever, you know.
Yeah, yeah I began need to there's a lot of stories
like today's don't have to last forever in the Star Wars series.
They don't.
And especially at this time, they're hunted down ruthlessly.
Yeah.
You know, that's the the entire inquisitors job
we do have fallen order that story.
Fallen order the video games, which I think is
spectacular would would fit so good in this.
And if you're going to tease anybody, maybe give me a little teaser.
If you that's that's it.
That's the joy I want
following order though coming out of the service following order.
And we're coming out on the 22nd.
I'm looking forward to it.
We got our Harry Potter. Movies right there.
That was always right there.
We have our Harry Potter expert.
Are you excited for the Harry Potter series coming to HBO?
I'm kind of. I'm kind of just so-so.
And the reason is,
is that we know that this series is going to be just a retelling of it,
like in book form.
So, yeah, we'll get a little bit more and and they'll obviously have more time
to like show those things that were highlight in the movies.
But I kind of wish, like, why didn't you just give me, like, what they like?
Basically number 7.5 or 8 is Cursed Child.
You know, Harry as a kid and they kind of move on afterwards.
And I would love that.
Makes so much more sense to me than retire. We get the same story.
Yeah. Yeah. But these are really old movies now, right?
I mean, they came out when we were young, but.
There's so there's like mainstream still, like.
Really understanding those society. Right.
You don't need to make new music. Just goes into the Eagles.
Like our kids aren't going to watch the original ones
and think they were good there.
Oh no, no, you're what they are.
I can't imagine like having kids and like sitting them down to watch
Lord of the rings of them saying like, oh, these movies look old.
I would just have them go outside.
Yeah, you're not in this house anymore.
Sure.
But yeah, I think Nick Frost is a good pick, though, for Hagrid, right?
Yeah, he has a but he's lost a lot of weight lately.
So I will say like,
hey baby, maybe go back, get some chicken or something like that. But
but you know what?
Besides like some of his like greatest movies that he's done,
obviously like Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead and World's End.
But he wasn't the one recent like,
British comedy horror that I was pretty wild called getaway.
And he has the beard going on. Oh, really?
I'm like, that's what I thought.
Let's put the long hair on.
Let's go. Yeah, yeah. Let's go.
That's accurate. Right there. Said he has a good look forward to it.
It's like he's like a paranormal hunter in UK as well where he's like a
he's like a cable guy but also hunting paranormal stuff
and like okay that's Hagrid. I can see that for sure.
Yeah. I think this is a good role for him.
I think he brings a levity to to Hagrid.
That's like charm because, well, well,
I think Dumbledore shows that charm off, but he has to like he hides it
as much as he can and he only shows it to I feel like Harry.
Nobody else gets to see that charming side of him as much.
Yeah, Hagrid's constantly that he's like, all the kids can love him and it makes
Malfoy look like even more of a jerk because he's mean to Hagrid of all people.
Yeah, and so you need to have somebody who's just, like, instantly lovable
as soon as you mean that's I mean, that's Nick Frost right away.
Hey, it's perfect man.
I want to say that
coming down to that motorcycle and the second Harry's front door drops.
Okay, give it to me.
Chris child. All right, that's another thing we need.
Yeah, that's.
Yeah, I'd much rather have. So. Yeah.
Who knows?
Like, stop having it just be, like, solely on
play Broadway, you know, and bring that thing to the screen.
Is it enough for multiple movies or just one?
Just one. But, you know.
All right. To know The Hobbit.
If if the play is all day thing, it is a part one and a part two.
You can watch it all in one day or watch in separate days.
If they can make that, you know, into like a parts, I'm
sure Hollywood will be like, you know what, let's do that to you.
Let's add a third part. So
I couldn't believe The Hobbit they split into three was insane.
The last Hunger Games book was definitely not needing to be two movies.
They made it into two movies.
So yeah, who knows.
But you know The Hunger Games.
I felt like it was a phase of like going through these parts, right?
Like Harry Potter. Don't forget Twilight.
Why did we need two Twilight movies at the end?
So anyway, I'm glad that we're hopefully like, we just are done with oh.
Well, yeah.
Wicked part two coming up later this year.
Yeah,
that's a little more warranted maybe, I don't know.
Yeah.
Stephen.
You in.
Who is just killing it as invisible?
Obviously he's Glenn from Walking Dead.
Just got announced for the new avatar movie.
This is coming out in 2026.
It's going to be featuring ang and his friends as adults.
Jonathan leaning on you.
Who do you think Steven's playing?
That?
I have no idea. Honestly, that's a good.
I was actually just looking at the cast, Alex.
I'm like, trying to figure that out in my head.
And we know Dave Bautista is going to be in there too.
And he's also doesn't have him credited yet. Yeah.
I don't know.
It's got to be a new character, right?
I don't think a new character.
I think he's going to play an no things.
Eric Nam, he's already cast it.
Oh, is he okay?
Oh, yeah.
Tough ang Zuko, Sokka and guitar are all casted here.
And then Steven and Dave Bautista are the two that I see.
They don't have assigned characters for me, so
I can't imagine them not making him very big character.
And he has like a young voice.
So it's hard because you're saying all these characters already casted,
so it's like, what else is I'm trying to think of
other characters in the show that are kind of young that will stay for.
Me when they're adults too.
So it might be characters
we haven't seen yet because this continues after the show.
Is it okay?
Okay, yeah, man. But yeah, he's killing it.
He is killing it.
And he played avatar one so he could be coming back as avatar one.
If that's the thing that's like a thousand years in the past.
It is.
But so he came in Korra like they had the flashback to him.
Of course
we could do another flashback and kind of explain more of the Avatar State,
and maybe we'll see the passing of Aang at this point.
There's something that'll happen. The like show him dying at the end of this movie.
Maybe, but he grows pretty old if this continues just after avatar.
I mean, he has kids, his three kids in The Legend of Korra.
That's true.
And by the image they gave us, I presume that he's just now having kids.
We see the top is just now starting the police department that she runs.
And then fire Lord, of course, we have our Lord Zuko,
so it'll be exciting to see where they go with this.
I'm excited to see more avatar. Obviously with Amazon Studios
we're getting a bunch of new avatar stuff like that.
And I think if they're bringing in Steven here,
they're not going to waste that talent.
I think they're introducing a character
that they'll use again in the future in some way.
So that's why I'm hoping it is avatar one, because then maybe we'll get a
huge prequel series
that goes way back with Steven running the whole thing
and just talking about like,
the very first avatar, figuring out what the Avatar State in Avatar role is.
But the idea for me
and the job that you got to watch Invisible Man,
I know you've watched any of it.
There's there's a lot of stuff to watch.
I finally kind of a daredevil, like one one thing at a time wasn't good.
It's like, yeah, last bit of news. Here.
We have the Legend of Zelda.
Live action film is set for 2027, March 26th, 2027.
So we know that they're wanting to make this more realistic and grounded
than, say, normal video game adaptations like Super Mario Movie or whatever.
It's gonna be live action.
I'm hoping that they show the reset of time.
That's the link story.
You know, where like, it's kind of like,
you know, different times always be resetting.
And I'm hoping they nail Ganon make.
I mean, they said they're gonna be gritty.
Ganon needs to be so fearsome.
And as much as I love Jack black, please, dear God, don't cast
Jack black for that because I haven't. Seen oh my God, no, no.
I know, but don't you just feel it?
Doesn't you feel they're going to cast Jack black somewhere in this thing?
It's like he's been in everything already.
I know he wants to do something, so I'm hoping they don't mess with that.
You know, with the,
with how the director, Wes Ball, is, like, in love with the series.
And it is truly a fan of the series.
I don't I don't think he's going to do that.
I think he's going to be so accurate to the
I mean, this is going to get a massive amount of criticism. Right?
The it not being live action or it not being I'm
sorry I animated after the success of the survivor,
but this is crazy to me that we're going to go live action potential
with the backing of also Sony like man like they they turn out better now if.
Sony and Universal will be involved too, because universal has a lot of the rights.
To it. Right? Yeah.
And so I have a feeling that they're like,
let's shoot for Lord of the Rings Game of Thrones style level.
Yeah, because if they didn't,
I think I don't think it could do as well with the animation style of super.
I think if you're not going to do that, you have to go anime.
Yeah, in my opinion, yeah, yeah.
What do we.
Yeah, there's been hints of like I was looking at
for God who was wanted to play Princess was Hunter.
Shot, fair shot for.
A no clue.
I don't know, it. Was like.
Princess Zelda in a way, because, like, like, facial features and all.
But she hasn't really been in shit either, though.
Sorry, but she was in Blade Runner,
and she did voice acting for Bell, which is a great animated movie,
but I don't know, like, oh, I mean, it's pretty much.
But do we have a Dreamcast or anything? We don't have a dream.
We don't have a cast rumors yet.
Now my question though,
before we even get into that is do you guys want no names or stars?
Because if we're going with stars and I'm saying throw Tom Holland in the link.
Austin. Okay. Yeah, that would be good.
That would sell. That's not funny.
Maybe it doesn't even have to be good.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe no names.
I kind of want no names though, because this is a good opportunity.
I always think
if you're going to have an IP movie that's gonna get people to go
watch this, I'm going to go watch this movie because it's Zelda.
But then this good time to like, invent new stars.
We don't need to, like, rehash old stars for this type of thing.
You know, we'll take some, like, sea level actors
who've been in a couple things, and then elevate them.
And let's make make this what they really remembered for.
I could see that. So yeah, I.
I looked up again and I don't remember what it looked like at all
other then looking at a picture of him, I was like, oh, as soon as I saw him, I
envisioned who I think would play him well is the guy who played Thorman.
Giants been in Game of Thrones, but the big Red beard, everything's like,
oh man, that just he's just a beast of a man.
Like, it would be a great actor for that.
I want Ian McShane for him just because of the way he speaks, stuff like that.
And like the idea that, like,
now, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't play a lot of Zelda games.
I just, I know of the games, stuff like that, mostly.
I usually get my ass handed to me.
But Ganon is aware of the time loops right?
And not Zelda, link or anybody else.
I think it's just Ganon that knows it.
Oh, they're going every year. I don't ever. Like.
Yeah, I don't remember it because I always oh, shit, I don't know,
because I always feel like each one, each game is obviously like different feel.
It's supposed to feel completely new.
It's just that, you know, they're just another loop in the time.
Oh, it's not that. I was like, why are looking that up?
How great would it be if, even if it isn't the case,
they just make it this way? Ian.
Somebody who really speaks well is your Ganon, who's
who has the memories of multiple life spans
while everybody around him just keep getting refresh you.
It'll be little everybody like there are children around him.
And so he's like, link again, I've killed you.
This is the 480th time I've killed you.
I'm getting tired.
So tired of you.
And then, like this one link shows him something different would be really cool.
And I just want somebody who's a very good speaker.
And I think, you know, McShane just hasn't skill all the way through. And.
Is that in enough stuff?
Frankly, yeah.
That's the things that they're David and Goliath.
The only did one season of he was I was like, that was so good.
Why not continue that or let's start it up again.
I had challenged Thomas to watch that, but then we changed it up to something else
the last minute.
But one of these days I'll challenge him to watch it
because it is surprisingly good and totally missed opportunity.
It has succession fights. I really like succession.
It's basically that. What the end. Yeah, yeah.
What do we got? Squeaks?
Yeah, because of the times where it's shown like Ocarina of Time.
If you beat him, I guess it sends
you back, to a child time line or a doll time line.
So it seems like he is aware of some type of loop,
but a lot of people are saying, like,
like kind of what I was saying, like,
each game is different, and that's just like the close thing.
Okay. Could be though. That'd be fascinating.
I mean, what do you think they were to go with that?
You know, if there was something they would do, like do it. Yeah.
Different characters, maybe different like like in the games.
Okay.
You send them back in at some time and it's
next thing you know you're doing Skyward Sword instead of breath of the wild.
There's some little thing is different.
This one he has like an animal spirit helping him out or.
Yeah, yeah, it's something this time.
Princess Zelda is not the helpless one.
She's actually out there fighting on her own and so get.
Like her as sheep farmer.
Exactly. Yeah.
So I would really like that idea of it being a different thing every time,
but I still make it, like, mature.
Don't make it a comedy.
I know that obviously the stuff in The Groundhogs
Day don't do that, but make it to where link is trying to break this cycle,
and Ganon is one that's controlling the cycle,
or is at least aware of it and is taking advantage of it.
I think that would be a perfect opportunity. Yeah,
let us know who you guys think should be playing these characters.
I don't don't cast Jack black.
I love him, but he's just going to be somebody to laugh at.
It's not good.
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Our discussion for this week is going to be all about the AI trailers
that we see all the time. They fool us.
I'll admit I saw Landon's one this week that got me bit and hop online real quick.
I confirmed it as like, son of a bitch, those AI bastards.
This is all because deadline
actually went out and found some of the people
that were in India that run the screen culture
that one of the biggest, YouTube channels, find them and interview them.
So couple of AI trailers that have fooled me in the past like that
one was a Landers one.
There was a Superman one that went real viral.
That fooled me.
Yes. Think of it.
The trailers. Yeah. There's any shows that have fooled you.
I've sent them to you before, like Iron Man three or whatever.
One I watch out for iron Man four.
You've said that to me and you were like,
I can't believe it's happening, like all the way with no hair casting.
So at one point they say,
yeah, maybe they kept under wraps.
I think one of the like, maybe it's
probably a popular one with like, you know, thousands of uses.
Braveheart to.
I was anyone to see the Braveheart two one. No, I haven't seen that one yet.
Oh my God. I'm just like, yeah, give me this.
But then at a certain point, like that looks kind of weird.
And then yeah, looking into it, it's it's whatever.
But then the ones that really get me that, it gets me like,
a little bit until something is shown is
like these, like, yeah, like Superman 2 or 3 or whatever.
You're like, what the hell?
But then you see an old scene, you're like, you, man.
Yeah, yeah, I. Recognize that scene.
Well, in the Lancers, one of the one that really tricked me is they use the image.
They released the two walking down the street.
You know what I'm saying?
Al and John.
And they used AI to make that, actually them walking.
And so I was like, well, that's actual footage because want to see that picture.
But no, they just do AI to make that thing welcome.
Like that is scary. Good. Damn it. Yeah.
The only thing that actually was like, oh, this is fake is at the end,
they had a part where the two are walking fully in lantern entrances,
and then Kyle Rayner join them or whatever, and it was like
he just looked off and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, that's not.
And then I confirmed it's all fake.
So yeah, turn me on. No.
These bastards, they got a good.
The one that with the Braveheart two one, they had Gerard Butler
starring in it as well.
I was like, dude, stop talking.
To me, you know? Yeah.
And then you're like, okay, this is fake.
But hey, maybe this sparked something.
Can we get like Mel Gibson and Jared Butler going at it together?
Here we go. Yeah Russell Crowe in there too.
What the hell.
Yeah.
So the big question is are these a good thing or a bad thing.
And I want to pitch you something. Okay.
If if I was really good with my words and I had a great idea
of a new movie or series to to make, and I could explain it to you in such detail,
you feel like you just watched the movie with that be bad or good for the industry?
I think it would be good because we're excited about something.
We're building fan fiction in our own heads,
and maybe we can't share it with the world, but yeah,
we're getting excited about it.
I think using AI to make this stuff, as long as they're not trying to,
you know, extort money out of people or, you know, manipulate people, whatever.
But it's just for fun,
then I think it's totally good because it's us being able
to see someone's creative idea of what they would
hope is going to be made on, on the big screen.
What do you.
And if you're like proofreading or proofreading and stuff
and it is like something original, then it's kind of like, why not?
Because I see I you know,
I said it to frame a couple of times now it's more like a stepping stone.
As long as I kind of get you off, like to a start.
Man, I'm gonna be a bad guy right now.
Business side of things. Like.
I get it, though.
Like why it's being used, like,
you know, like it sucks for, like, the people that are out there.
I mean, it sucks when I used to always want to draw down,
be a cartoon artist next. I know everything's computerized.
I'm like, what the I have no talents now.
No, I work in my job behind a desk. Like what?
Yeah. No.
But, like, it's just I get it, you know?
But it's so tempting to do to something I've always wanted to do.
You just.
That's awesome. Happens.
Yeah, I. Guess I know Jonathan's writing your book.
He's never written a book in his life right now.
He's the number one selling author in New York.
You know, like, yeah, he did it in 15 minutes, you know, like, but.
Also, if it's too easy, then it won't hold a value in society.
True.
So yeah, it'll diminish the entire industry.
So I think it's fun to do for just a fun thing if you want,
if you have an idea you want to do other we.
It'd be great if we got in the habit of branding it as I and false
that this isn't being an actual movie made, but it's a, you know, fan concept.
But, you know, if we could establish that as a rule that would that would help.
But for us to understand, I mean, we can so far at least pick it
up, pick it, pick out what's real and what's not,
and then we can be like, oh, well, you know what that'd be?
That's a really cool idea.
And maybe the studios will see enough ideas from the fans
that they get an idea of what what we would like, you know,
as a general to help direct them and what they're going to make.
But. Right.
So yeah, we don't want to flood the market and ruin the production process.
That's the thing is, it's not so much about them making new ideas.
They are seeing that a Superman movie is coming up and then they flood the market.
So screen culture, for example, they went interviewed this guy and they have come.
It started off as like a fan idea.
And if it's a fan idea, that's fine.
But you have to label it as like fan made or I train or something like that.
Label it.
In my opinion, these are all my opinions.
A pet peeve of mine is somebody
who tries to share stuff with you guys best possible.
So he it started off as a one man thing.
Now it's an entire team and it's become a job, a business for them
to try to trick people into watching the videos as much as possible.
And sometimes their videos outperform those of the actual studios.
So the Superman one, for example, had outperformed
at first one of the Superman trailers.
And so they were like, well, what the hell?
You would assume the studios would be mad about this,
but apparently this something that deadline
had uncovered in the studios, instead of doing what they should be doing
and say there's a copyright strike on it and having those things taken down.
Instead, they're claiming ownership over them and getting paid for two.
And so it's like they're letting the AI stuff happen and getting paid for it.
What are your thoughts on that?
Is that good or bad?
It's kind of just like a more of a marketing. Right now.
We're talking about more of the Superman, you know, but. It's misleading marketing.
If I told you like, hey, Diet Coke tastes great, but then somebody else comes
and says, Diet Coke will make you lose 50 pounds a day, and Coke doesn't
do anything about it because they're like, you're still buying Diet Coke.
Is Diet Coke responsible for that?
And and yeah, Diet Coke is making more money because of that too.
Because of their lack of of transparency.
But then they're on the other side of like we didn't tell you that.
That's that's right.
That's the, that's the, the distance liability that they could have.
Yeah. But it's still it's your brand yours.
And you have not only the right but the responsibility
to protect your brand because the trust that we have built up in you,
I trust when I CDC that it's going to be to a degree of quality.
And I know if it's fan made, it won't be and that's fine I expect that.
But I think
when people when they allow air to do it, then it's a problem when they're in to.
Oh yeah that's tougher.
Oh shoot.
Because honestly you guys problems for the studios as well.
Like right.
Let's say if you saw the Superman trailer
next thing you know you saw like Brainiac come down right.
You're like, oh, this is now like my expectation for Superman is Brainiac.
Come on. It's going to be amazing.
Like, oh no, we actually just got back in the fifth version of Joker, you know?
Yeah, no, like, some didn't like whatever, so I can see that too, you know?
But it's a slippery slope for sure.
And it's kind of dumb for like, again, like, I see, I mean, uses
these stepping stones and like, they help you, like, lead up to something
that you want, right? Your goal.
But if someone's just out there putting trailers for fun and have like,
no real, I guess end goal with it, like, what are you really doing?
Their goal is to make as much money as possible.
They're trying to snipe it before to make money.
That's that's definitely the thing for them.
And that's just like a kind of a thing.
It's not like, oh yeah, I get it.
You know, it's money, right? We all need. It.
So here's, here's the other thing.
I'm gonna throw another caveat for you guys.
What about the actors that are not getting paid
that are actually I reimagined put into the trailers and stuff,
and now they're not getting paid for these trailers.
And the studio who represents them
should be defending their actors because their actors get paid to the studio.
Yeah.
Yeah. That. Yeah, yeah, they.
They should be in touch with them on this before too.
Yeah.
They should, you know, fight that legally and defend their
even if it's not about the money, it's your character
your body and you know, character who what you act like or
whatever is being used for something else that you didn't sign off for. So
they could take your person from a picture and put you in a porno and ruin your.
That's happening right. Now. That's that's happening.
No problem.
But that is something that's actually a big concern.
Jonathan. You're right.
That's happening right now and it's becoming dangerous situations.
Yeah. Yeah.
The I don't know that's that's pretty messed up.
We nothing's going to change until we have laws against it.
And actually, you know take him seriously.
There's no way to enact laws though, because as soon as we put a law
in, there's another country that will not put that law.
And then suddenly, like these guys, example, they're from India.
So another thing that we could do, stop them on that front.
We have to go through YouTube, the platform
that they're publishing on, to stop them.
And so you're not even able to like physically put a law in to stop there.
It's really difficult.
Yeah, I think that one you definitely different the different actors here.
This is just like it's a trust
and you're building this franchise with them or something like that.
And and that's not that's not really. Right. Right.
But what happens when you get like say I don't
I can't think of obviously like whoever produced that can 300.
Right. Yeah.
And you see Jared Butler Company whatever.
But you see like you know his face on Braveheart two.
I mean that that company doesn't really owe trouble or anything.
Right.
Yeah I was just saying.
So Gerard Butler is being used to make that fake Braveheart trailer.
Right.
So Gerard Butler should be paid for his likeness being in a trailer,
whether or not he did any work doesn't matter.
It's the reason you like him as Braveheart is because you know him
from something else that he worked hard on.
Yeah, yeah,
but you talked about the company defending their actors, right?
Yeah.
Companies like, well, we never had anything to do with Braveheart. True.
The one that did the the way his face was taken from
possible there to but also just in general like Sag-Aftra
I think also needs to kind of get involved with this too, in some way.
And the fact that it's one thing that they're they're doing that.
And then, sure, you're right where
like there's nothing they could do for glad for that one,
but specifically for Superman for a new and or trailer or whatever.
Well, studio then you need to do your job and what you would typically
see at a studio is they try to stop it because it's ruining their marketing,
but instead they're not. They're like, oh, we'll just take a chunk off it.
We'll tell you to do we are part owners of that now.
They'll take a chunk of the extra money.
No hurt them, they assume, and the actors will get paid for any of that.
Yeah, that's that's very shady.
Do you guys see them possibly ruining the brand to one of the people
that's super made sure that went viral.
It showed Supergirl coming in to save the day.
James Gunn said Supergirl is not in that movie,
so could that hurt the movie?
If people are sending Supergirl
going to be there and the disappointed when she that.
Yeah, that goes that example of that brainiac, right.
We're getting some super villain or super, super high,
maybe like another Justice League member, right?
Like Martian, you know, comes through
and they're like, oh shit, now we just yeah, like, oh, cool.
Krypto. You know what?
I'm not saying anybody that krypto, but he's not Manhunter, you know?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they can do both.
They can set unreal expectations, and it could undermine the value
of a trailer across the board where people don't believe trailers and what?
Like I don't find out the Superman movies even being made.
I'll wait until I see the name on the front of the theater
to even know if it's actually happening, and then ticket sales go down.
People are excited about a movie because they don't even know
if it's actually coming out, or if it's just been
one of the thousands of fakes they saw that week.
Sometimes where we do need less trailers, though.
So frankly, you're not wrong.
I love when I see the trailers in the theater.
You, you know, you know,
those are the best ones are coming up soon and stuff like that. Like the best.
Yeah, get get to the movies early. But it's something you don't know about.
You're like, oh man, I love that guy or whatever.
It's like a total surprise, you know? It's such a nice thing.
So in the end, do you guys feel like this is just misinformation,
harmless or destructive? Do you guys think,
oh, man, I think he can go either way.
I think it can be used to be destructive.
We need to put laws in there to make sure it doesn't get to that point.
And in those laws,
we can allow the harmless version of this to be, you know, executed.
If it's just fan art and stuff like that, it just requires that it be, like we were
saying earlier, branded as such and, you know, not not used if it if the person
who's making it is making money off it then that's that's not okay.
So what should be done is fan art for fun.
Not anything more than that, I guess. Art?
Yeah, definitely. Like highlighted.
I'll be the naive guy right on this situation.
I'll be like, well, once I find out that something is right and say, okay, move on.
That was cool. Whatever. You know, like,
what?
Does it hurt?
You know, but again, like, I guess
that's just like the typical person that might just be like, okay, if I go, yeah,
da Bella's not a Braveheart, than I did Braveheart too. All right.
Now I'm going to go
and watch Braveheart one now because I might want to Braveheart
I, you know, and you know, like, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah. I'll be the naive guy.
Yeah, I'll be.
The anal one because I actively report every video that I see
that's a fake, but I trailer I do it every time.
And for being spam and misleading
and because there has to be something somebody out there.
I mean, I know it's just
I know there's got to be other people doing this too, just because, like,
I think that it's it is misleading.
It's it's telling false stories happening right now.
I think it can hurt the future, the actors.
And if you guys just threw the thing on
this, a I trailer, which I never reported, anybody says I trailer fantasy.
I never do because I think those are simply for fun.
And it's like when you're covering a song, if you get permission to cover a song,
or if you say this is a cover of a song, I'm fine.
But if you think you're going to
go out there and play smoke on the water and actually say that that's your song,
that's what I. I got a problem.
And I think that's kind of what this boils down
to, except for
people are really getting convinced these guys are playing smoke on the water.
And so
I that's the thing.
There's there's too many people getting fooled out there.
And I they blow my drums every day.
But one of these pictures comes out and like, no, that's fake.
I mean, come on now, Greenland doesn't have farms.
Yeah, yeah.
So it'll be interesting.
See how we go from here.
Let's head to our review.
Don't would be leaning on you this.
You saw Snow White?
Yes. What did you think of the movie overall?
First of all, overall.
So I think, I was very surprised at how much I liked it
when the reviews that I heard from other people, or that
I heard that other people were saying was really bad.
And I think part of that is that the bar was set low.
So I went in expecting it was going to be bad, and it surprised me.
Usually if I go in with a low expectation, I come out pleasantly surprised.
But overall there was very little that I had to complain with it.
People were complaining about the CGI was real, you know, poor,
especially with the dwarves and like, yeah, I thought it was pretty darn good.
I mean, what more could you want? Gollum.
You know, motion capture wasn't much better than theirs, if anything.
Let's see.
There's the story.
Had a lot more depth to it that had a romance story.
And instead of just, you know, the old movie,
a guy kissed the girl when she was asleep and there was no built
relationship between them except for he accepts her.
So yeah.
Yeah, it was kind of a contract that made it.
Yeah. It made sense for the time.
Like, well, I saved your life with a kiss.
So we're meant to be.
Yeah, but it's true. Love's first kiss.
Yeah. That's good.
But this one, the.
You know, the relationship was built over time.
Yeah, I think I think to me,
the story is like the music is a big part of Disney movies.
Was that. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's that's kind of make or break it.
The first couple songs weren't great.
The first one, especially I remember in the theater being like,
oh man, they gotta nail the music because the Disney movie.
But the later songs were definitely good, a lot better.
And yeah, they do a good job.
Most Disney movies do, where the song really progresses the story.
It's telling a lot in the story.
One that was a remake of a classic song was, whistle while You Work?
Yeah, yeah, from the old Snow White.
I really like that one.
That was probably my favorite scene was her
with the dwarves dancing and cleaning and stuff like that.
But yeah, overall I really liked it.
I do feel like Delgado could have done a little bit better,
or could have been cast a little differently.
Some of the like mouth movement when she's talking
was like just a little overexaggerated and stuff.
But yeah, this has got to be something that's not great.
That's a big throw line is over from is being rough and there's another girl.
So there's a lot of positives.
And you had one negative about to go with acting.
But is there anything more that you wish that I mean might have been different?
I mean I don't know is like something you see in the audience.
No way.
So I'd be really picking apart
like, you know, comparisons, but like, is there something that maybe
that you wish you would have seen?
Or maybe it's just just that overall, I think missing.
From the original or something like that.
Yeah.
One thing is like,
I just want to like bring up and maybe this like listen to this
and see if maybe we need to go back to this, but let's go back to
actors with like, cart scenes and Roger Rabbit and Mary Poppins,
you know, like we go to the scene of like, and people are like,
oh, too much CGI, something new, but it's like, yeah, give me that shit.
Because I would've been okay with seeing, like,
the old school with the Rachel Zegler, with Zegler, with the old doors, like.
Like. Yeah.
And I think one thing that I didn't like being like comparison
because I really do love.
So I, I think, you know, it's just ultimate classic. But.
There was like the, the animals, CGI in the animals wasn't
as good as it was with the dwarves and stuff. Oh, okay.
But there was a it was a lot of good.
The story overall was inspiring and motivating.
Afterwards, I felt like I just,
you know, heard a good speaker at a conference kind of thing,
the dancing and stuff in the town.
And if you don't like, you know, it's a Disney movie.
So it has that musical aspect where there's a lot of singing, of course.
So I'm sure there's people that was just like, why are they singing songs?
This is a movie or something like that.
But yes, it's Disney.
Yeah, I really can't think of much.
Oh, the dwarves were mining.
It's like didn't look their cartoon.
They, they, they're funny characters.
So they're mining was like, I swing a pickax and all of a sudden
they get a whole bunch of gems and they're,
you know, cut diamonds and they're beautiful.
It's like, I mean, you could have made it
that you're getting dirty rocks, but, you know, whatever.
Yeah, comes out is all it has to be refined.
But that's a technicality that they're a fun cartoon character. Not.
Yeah, not, you know, not that real.
One thing I didn't appreciate too, is that they
I know there was a whole controversy
about the dwarves and little people and all that stuff.
I think they did a good job at
resolving that or
being sensitive to that, where they had not only where the dwarves.
I mean, I know it's a problem.
The dwarves weren't cast, acted by little people
because, you know, it's jobs that were lost.
Yeah, it's certainly a representation to you not only get to a but,
you know, TV is power and it's like, that's a community that can be heard.
Yeah, but some people were offended because the dwarves of Snow White
are comical, exaggerated characters, like,
if we'd see any other race and we exaggerate the features
and laugh about it on a movie, it would be offensive to a lot of people.
Who talk like the CGI ones that you just saw.
Sorry. Yeah, okay. Okay, okay.
But they did a good job at identifying them as cartoon characters,
fictional characters.
And what they did was
they had one like larger supporting character was a little person
that was in the the Rebel Bandits, and he played a pretty big role.
He actually saved Snow White at one point.
And so he was just he was a good character.
And you'd see other little people in the town
and you know, when they're doing the dances
and stuff like that, there was other ones.
So it was a good comparison to be able to see,
you know, the dwarves aren't, you know, actually the same as little people.
They're fictional characters, you know, so it won't offend people.
Plus, you know, they had some people that were getting jobs.
The ones that were in the background where there are seven of them.
No. So I think that was.
Just three cast down there already there, you know.
Well, but it'd be offensive, right, if you said,
yeah, you want them to be a fictional.
These aren't
this isn't what we're saying little people do is go into mines and get these rocks,
and then it's called dopey ones or sleepy instead.
That one's name is Ted, and he's a dentist fucker.
Yeah.
And he has a wife and three kids, and he likes to, you know, go fishing.
Do you feel like.
Do you feel like this being Snow White or help
the movie, as in, would have been as good or improved for her
if it was just a different movie altogether, you know what I'm saying?
And I was so tied down to this is Disney's Snow White.
To me, this movie didn't suffer from being tied to the old movie.
I think the old movie was elevated by being tied to this one.
Oh, now that's interesting. Yeah, that's.
I think I think this is way better.
Oh, maybe I'm just the one person here that doesn't like the old Snow White
very much.
I think this was much better than the original Disney Snow White.
It's how would you like Disney?
I'm probably gonna hate little for. Yeah.
No, I, I legit I mean it's had so much more story.
Maybe I just don't remember much of the original one or something.
There's not a lot of like the original one to be fair. Yeah.
This develops the character.
It makes you feel invested in the characters,
and there's more characters to be invested in.
So in the end, I mean, there is there's at least twice
that I legit left in the theater. Doesn't happen a lot.
And, you know, again, I went in with low expectations.
Anything will make me chuckle, I guess.
And then there's not
I didn't tear up and I'm like that, but very emotional scenes a couple times.
So yeah, overall, I definitely thought it was good.
I don't understand what what everyone's, hating against it for, but
now I'd give it at least,
at least like eight.
Off out of the room, right. Yeah.
And Rachel Zegler talking about it on the original.
No Disney freaks, right.
Like, like, come on now, we're going to be hating that,
you know, like, don't talk on the OG princess, the first one, you know?
But I think that was a part of it, the huge, massive part of it.
So. Well, that there's all kinds of political reasons to that.
Both the main actors in this movie.
Yeah, but yeah, I didn't like it.
Right, right. Right, right.
Yeah.
I'm just saying like, yeah, there's
there's all kinds of different PR that's not related to
the movie attached to the movie, including the debate over the dwarves.
Like at one point,
you know, we had Peter Dinklage saying that there should be no dwarves.
Then the ones that went through like, okay,
if I know dwarves, then there's a well, wait a minute,
there should be dwarves because you're losing jobs.
So, like this movie was
I think it was in quote unquote production for like 5 or 6 years, unheard of.
But because it was so many different changes
going along the way, it does here that there's a sustainable, decent movie
at the end of that process
that Jonathan's telling us about is good to hear, you know?
Yeah.
Like I'll definitely watch it again when it's on Disney Plus.
I mean, no doubt to me.
But if anybody hasn't seen it I'd say go see it was in theaters.
It to me, it was definitely worth the ticket to go see it later.
So out of ten, what are you thinking out of ten poisoned apples?
How many apples are walking away with?
Oh, how would you go with eight apple?
Oh, that is ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah, that's apples.
I did such a cool thing where, you know, it looks like this
shriveled skeleton head, but then it goes back to.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
They nailed it all.
I might still be seeing it.
I'll be waiting for Disney Plus,
but I am going to sit down and watch it because yeah, I do want to see
I do want to compare it to all the hate that's out there.
And like my one of my many things on my Twitter feed is all the Gal Gadot,
you know, acting performance and stuff. Yeah.
And so see, she does stuff like that.
I would like to see it and is, what's the name?
Ziegler was the first name again. Rachel.
Rachel, Rachel Zegler.
I hear only good things about her performance in this.
So I do want to see how that worked out.
So it a ten guys that's that's high praise here.
Let's maybe we can go through. We'll watch it.
Read a bunch of the comments, pick out the,
you know, political ones and focus on the ones actually based on earlier.
Yeah. And then talk about it again later. That's a good idea.
All right.
Let's get into our network news.
So for fan of portals they just covered Gabriel
which is a 2007 Australian movie I never heard of.
And the budget for that thing was $200,000.
Came out to that seven. Right.
And I think I'm going to watch this
because it's all about like heaven and hell fighting in this one city.
And it looks like underworld.
You remember the movie underworld that we all watched back in the day?
It's got that vibe.
So check out Gabriel guys, check out Phantom Portal discussing it.
There's a two part ops.
They really go into it and then coming up they're gonna be doing Marvel Month.
So I might have to jump in on an episode with with Aaron and Basher over anime.
Plus they just did their episode
talking about the seasons starting in spring 2025, all the new anime
guys could be watching it across the different streaming platforms.
Anime first is kicking ass
a challenge accepted, which I clearly have an affinity for.
We just did The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent guys.
That movie was so incredibly good and I did not even think it was going to happen.
Thomas challenged me to this thing.
And have you heard about this movie?
I'm just going to start there.
Nicolas Cage plays Nicolas Cage.
It's so good. Pedro Pascal.
So Pedro Pascal is like this rich guy.
To be like, his worst acting is selling himself.
It's it's as ridiculous as you'd want it to be for him playing Nic Cage.
Okay, okay. But he's he's Pedro Pascal.
I'll just give you the quick around this one.
Rich guy owns an island, whatever, yada yada yada.
And then he's a big fan of Nic Cage.
Here's Nic Cage going out for his birthday to hang out.
And then they become best friends.
And this is where the scene of them smiling in the car comes in.
Is there on the house. You.
Oh yes. Like that's amazing.
We funny?
Yeah.
It is such a. Blast to watch.
I imdb give it a similar ten.
It probably is around there.
Maybe it's just a fun chill watch.
Pedro Pascal is adorable and because he's such a little fanboy in it,
and it's always like when you see, like, gruff
and like The Last of Us, which is coming up again this month.
And then you see him in this was like a hamster cage.
It's just so beautiful.
And then at last podcast, we're covering survivor over there.
We might have had the best episode of survivor or TV ever.
This last week.
We had a really good discussion about that.
All about Eva and her Autism Revelations headlines
is now going to be on even more podcast platforms.
I discovered that it was actually, being blocked in a certain nations.
It's no longer being blocked in Indonesians, it's available everywhere.
So headlines guys give it a review.
And lastly reminder, Rancho Cordova this weekend at the City Hall April 5th.
Come hang out with us.
We got a big prize wheel. We got Smash Brothers.
Thailand is bringing out Tetris.
We're going to do Tetris.
It'll be a lot of fun, guys. We're gonna have the geek box.
We're asking everybody geek questions, and you get to be on the podcast yourself.
Answer your geek box question. That's how you going to spin the wheel?
We're going to get something from you.
What's a good time to come out?
It is from 10 to 5.
So come out in between between there we last year was our first year doing it.
This year there have way more marketing going on,
but last year with the first year, the first two hours were crazy busy.
So if you want to go when it's not too busy, I go after lunch.
But be aware.
Like for us, we have a lot of prizes.
Some of those prizes might be gone
by the time that happened, so just kind of keep that in mind
because I don't want to brag that, but we were the hot item last year.
Oh for sure. Yes we were.
As we were going, we were just throwing prizes out the window at certain point.
Crazy. So come check out this.
All right.
Lastly, let's end with our recommendations of the week.
Squeaks, I'll start with you, man.
Yeah, definitely.
So which I haven't had a chance to actually follow with you on this,
but my recommendation is I was going to be the new Hunger Games bug.
Sunrise on the reaping.
Yes. Man, I don't know about you.
I'm a little over halfway now since.
So you are. So much farther than me.
I'll just tell you that.
Oh, man, I'm somewhere in the chapter 16 area.
Oh Jesus Christ, man.
I have not been so in love with the book since I'm going say it.
The Harry Potter days.
Okay, so.
That's pretty good.
I like the chapter.
Yeah, I love all the Hunger Game books.
They just they build with like very little words in some weird way.
They build such a quick world around you and luckily he's from district 12 again.
You already know the district 12 stuff.
Yeah. And Michigan.
And so it is.
I'm very early on, but I'm immediately in on it.
And so yeah, that's cool.
Yeah I'm talking every chapter has something going on.
And then even if like all the characters that we've seen in the movies
kind of like come back and play their roles in
like the younger, like their beginning stages of them and yeah,
the book is so phenomenal, I love it.
Yeah. What is the name of it again?
So we can go pick it up. Sunrise, sunrise on the reaping.
Sunrise on the just by the way, part of that by to get one free.
That was part of the that part of that sale too.
He was like to me up why don't you do that sale?
I know I didn't get it during that sale. So I was like, son of a gun.
I just bought this book already.
Jonathan, what about you? What's your recommendation for the week?
I get two, so I'm going to be rewatching Andor before the new season comes out.
So definitely, you know, you gotta try to binge that.
Just to be honest. I forget so much.
Also, saga,
issue 72 just came out and saga the comic series super sporadic.
It's hard to keep up with when, you know, new issues are coming out.
And this is the last one they have scheduled, you know, posted.
So it might be a while before we get another one.
So now's a good time.
Because if you haven't read the most recent ones or is a banger in that series.
I had talked before about DC's releasing smaller versions of the comics
you now, but it is.
Marvel I just discovered is also doing the same now.
So they are.
I don't want to see smaller version.
They're like trade backs or graphic novels, but they are novel,
physical size, like a novel or a book and they are way easier
to read in my opinion.
They're great for next to your bed, next to your TV.
I don't know about you guys, but sometimes I'm like,
I want to watch something in the living room,
but I don't want to pay attention to it. So I'll put on something.
I've seen a billion and a half times or something. Philadelphia.
And I'll read just or I'll, I'll read.
The comic books are really good on TikTok. Whatever.
It's perfect for that.
So I got Batman quarter hours right now, but I got hush coming in.
Devon, hush coming in and I got the devil born again coming in.
Because I am now all about Daredevil.
And so I'm so excited to read into that.
And that's the Frank Miller Show.
Check it out, guys.
The Marvel version is it just started coming out in January.
It's called Marvel Premiere, and they're like $10 books for 400 pages,
your favorite Marvel characters.
And I also got the Black Panther one two coming in.
And so that'll be really cool to check those out.
Well, that is it for us this week, guys.
Hang out with us next week at the convention.
We'll see you guys there.
Like I do.