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We have a lot to talk about today.

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You

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start.

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Okay.

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What I have noticed is The amount of

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people, clients, patients, other health care

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practitioners that say, how do you know that?

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And to which I'm like, how does somebody not know that?

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And let me unpack that a little bit more.

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I think because of what we get, the tool that we have,

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the tool that we talk about every single podcast that we

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have in our tool belt, because it, and I typically use

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the words forces, you'll say enables or allows, but I

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do feel FSM has forced me to research, read, and learn

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about body parts and conditions I never knew existed.

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Yes.

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Oh yeah, I did.

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Exactly.

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And to respect those tissues in a different way

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because now I don't just simply know that they

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exist, but I think about their Fibrous makeup, their

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cartilaginous makeup, their direction of activities,

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what their neighbors are, what's attaching to it.

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And how they're motivated, what they do,

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how they function, how they're innervated.

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Is their blood supply, how are they affected

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by compression, wear and tear, inflammation.

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Can you get

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out of my head for just two seconds?

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Because that is absolutely, those last three

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things are what I wanted to talk about.

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That's how you and I roll.

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It's, you're always in my head.

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It's a wonderful thing.

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But in, in the best possible way, I'm hoping.

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Exactly.

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So let me give you a scenario.

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Okay.

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Ironman,

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not just triathlete, but Ironman.

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Multiple Ironmans.

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Decided to complete two Ironmans, in three weeks.

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Okay, I don't have a frequency for that.

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There's no anti dopamine overdose thing, but okay.

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But

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I love this person.

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I love this person.

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I've been working with this person for years.

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I love that they use FSM religiously, that they

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believe in it, that they know that it helps,

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but two Ironmans in three weeks is a lot.

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It is a lot.

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It doesn't give you much recovery time.

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It doesn't.

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We can do great things after seeing this

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person in between the first and the second,

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they have bilateral lateral knee pain, okay?

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That has been assessed and treated as IT band syndrome.

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So now I can say that's a good face and I say, I get it.

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I get it.

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Why a massage therapist or a trainer would

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throw that out because that's all that they

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know and that's all that they maybe can treat.

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But when you just complete an Ironman that

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is swimming and running, you're a menisci!

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Thank you!

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It's the meniscus, it's not the IT man!

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Flattened hamburgers.

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They're going to be a little bit overworked and underpaid

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and they're going to have an opinion about that.

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And lateral knee pain, so far, is either torn and broken

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in the ligaments, if you get hit from the side and you're

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playing soccer, or it's the meniscus, or it's torn and

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broken in the connective tissue where the IT band and the,

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has anserine as medial, where the IT band comes around.

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it's the

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meniscus and the bursa.

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It's okay.

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So massaging it, not going to help.

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Using the Theragun or the percussive

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instruments, going to make it worse.

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It's inflamed, it's torn, it does more percussive.

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Why do they

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think

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that percussion is going to help?

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I don't know.

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Okay, good.

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I'm

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right there with you.

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Thank you.

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So because this is an elite athlete, because we are

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under pressure, we have, Another Ironman coming up.

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It's not outside.

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Between the two?

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Yes.

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Oh,

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okay.

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So I get to be the fix it guy.

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And help really dial in absolutely

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everything that could be torn and broken.

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Or our new favourite word repair and heal.

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We're going to repair and heal all the tissues.

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And get that person ready for the next one.

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Actually, I'd spend a whole hour

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on repair and heal the meniscus.

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Yes.

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an hour on four machines on one knee is not excessive.

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And they have a custom care.

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Torn and broken it's 77 and

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40

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and 195.

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And the other possibility, especially since it's not really

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worth it, To do an MRI, I'd head for inflammation in the

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periosteum, but also inflammation in 59 and 39, the bone.

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There's no way to run a full marathon.

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There's no way to run a full marathon and

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then follow that with the other things.

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No, the marathon is at the end after

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biking a hundred and some odd miles.

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And after swimming is the first swim bike run.

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And it's, so the meniscus is going to get hit in the

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biking and swimming, and then by the time you get

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to running, the meniscus has already been abused.

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But the running, you got bone bruises.

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So you've got 59, 39.

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You've got the cartilage under the

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meniscus and the, did I miss anything?

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Are we still, am I still in your brain?

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I'm still in my brain, but how, I love

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to categorize the B channels first.

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I always, That's easier for me to make my list.

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I know exactly what tissues are affected.

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And then I start going back to the A.

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Yeah.

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Torn and broken, inflamed.

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You don't need a PhD to figure out that

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those are going to be your big ones.

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But then you start to expand and start thinking a little

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bit more about what other A channels could be affected.

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So as I was digging and looking at netters, I was

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looking at the menisci and you've got the, your outer

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portion, you have the posterior horns, you've got the

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anterior horns, and then when you start googling the

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difference of makeup between the two horns, that the

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anterior and posterior horns of the menisci, those

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little cups, the divots, have a very rich blood supply.

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And you don't think of the menisci as bleeding,

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you think of vascular tissue, muscle, belly

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as bleeding, but there's bleeding in it.

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Very good.

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Especially with running.

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Yes.

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So with the microtrauma, microtrauma.

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So I do use trauma.

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I do use 94 and 294 quite a bit in my post exertional.

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Recipes because the torn and broken and

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the bleeding didn't come from outer space.

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There is some sort of trauma and

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trauma doesn't have to be bad trauma.

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It's traumatic to the tissue.

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So I like to use those first.

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I like to use our basics 94, three

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21 and nine with the bleeding.

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So those are all the other components.

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And when you have an athlete that has

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their own custom care, you can make these.

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programs as long or as short as you want.

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And something else that I wanted to talk about was

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we had an email and I can't remember if it was a knee

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or an ankle but the person was talking, oh I think it

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was the high ankle sprain we talked about last week.

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Oh yeah.

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About making a program for three or four

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hours long and I don't love that length.

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I like making shorter So it allows

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somebody to get up, hydrate, have a snack.

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I guess it depends on your audience.

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If you know that person is going to run

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something at night, make it as long as you want.

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Yeah.

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But the three hour programs are for bedtime.

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But I know a lot of athletes that are like more is more.

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And if I should run it six hours a day, I will.

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And that's great.

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But for the average person, if you tell them, I want

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you to run this for six hours a day, they're going to

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run it for no hours because they think I don't have six

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hours to sit down, but if you have an hour in the morning

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and an hour in the afternoon and 45 minutes at night,

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sometimes it's a little bit more digestible for people.

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Okay.

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Fair enough.

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It's just like back in the day, I'm

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talking a lot this already, but.

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Back in the day when I was learning exercise

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prescription, we would talk about, you have to

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know your audience and who you're talking to.

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If you want somebody to stretch, or strengthen, or

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do their exercises three times a day, some people

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you'll have to say, I want you to do it six times.

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Then they'll only do it three.

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And some people, you have to say, I want you to do it

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one time because you'll know they'll do it five times

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again, and you're the psychology maestro, the podcast.

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But athletes tend to overdo things.

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Triathletes who compete in Ironman competitions and

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decide to do two in one month tend to overdo things.

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Going back to our menisci.

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A person who does this type of leisure activities, their

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nervous system knows that pain will not equal stoppage.

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So the compensations that you see when somebody like this

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walks into the clinic are staring you in the face with

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big neon lights, but now is not the time to fix things.

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So again, you have to be carefully, I'm not undoing any

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compensation when somebody is competing in two weeks.

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I have a question about that since, especially since

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mechanics is your ballpark, if I can see it, because

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the compensations are to protect the injured tissue.

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But if you fix the injured tissue, because you've

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got 2 whole weeks and you can see this guy 3 times

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a week and getting put back, getting him put back

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together and repaired in 2 weeks is not that hard.

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And so then 2, 3 days.

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Before his next event.

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That's when you do wipe him out.

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You've got to tell his Hippocampus.

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It's no, really it's okay.

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He's going to be fine.

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It only hurt for a little while and now it's all better.

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See, and then you do 40 and 92.

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So the sensory motor cortex forgets that

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it everything it thought it knew about how

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that leg hip and foot were supposed to move.

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Then you do 40 and 84.

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So the compensation go away and then.

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You do 81 and 92 and 81 and 84 and get

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everything moving correctly while you

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have the guy running in place in your gym.

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Because if he goes into, at least this is my hit on it, if

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he goes in to the second Iron Man, and you have repaired

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the stuff he busted up in the first one, but you leave

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the compensations in place as if they're still busted.

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He's gonna bust something totally new.

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For sure.

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So it's, I would do Wipe and Load

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the last visit before he competes.

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If the competition is Sunday, you

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see him Friday, and fixes Brian.

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Does that work?

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It does, and it's all within, it's all

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within reason, I guess is what I'm saying.

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You're not going to be undoing everything.

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And when you remove the boulders from

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the stream, the water flows freely.

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So I always think about this analogy of this beautifully

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running stream in paradise, And there's rocks in

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the stream and the water meanders around the rocks.

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But if there's a giant boulder, that's

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creating a lot more resistance for the water.

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So your job as a performance therapist,

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chiropractor, massage therapist, trainer, whatever,

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is to remove the resistance from the body.

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So all the compensations that walk in, if you are

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treating the torn and broken, if you're treating the

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bleeding, if you're helping with repairing those deep

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structural pieces of resistance, the muscles will start

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to fire better because there's typically no pain, right?

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So if the meniscus isn't creating pain, There's

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not necessarily going to be a gate discrepancy.

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Just let me finish.

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You forgot about the hippocampus.

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The mis I

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haven't, I haven't.

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I'm getting to it.

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Okay.

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We're removing the resistance is

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what I, was what I'm getting at.

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So if the menisci are causing the hamstrings to

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crank up, which is causing the pelvis to rotate

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posteriorly, which is causing the psoas on the

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opposite side to tighten up, to try to stabilize,

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going after the psoas is not going to do anything.

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So my point of correcting imbalances is when you're

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treating the cause, all the imbalances, all that, when you

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start looking upstream, they start to correct themselves,

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taking out the cause, the causation of the compensation.

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So that's what I'm saying is you will have

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some therapists like we have to fix her hips.

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No, the menisci are the problem.

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The hips are going to go back once the meniscus is fixed.

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And this is my, this is what I meant to say by we're not

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undoing everything in a, Oh, we have to fix your shoulder.

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We have to do this.

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This is where it's really important to treat the cause.

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So I've not forgotten about the hippocampus because 40

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and 89 as you are doing these is crucial, so I'll have it

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running simultaneously so that there's constant feedback to

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say the menisci, we're good, don't worry about it anymore.

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Now we're going to move on to this structure.

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Yes, three, four machines during

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that time with constant feedback.

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Works for me.

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You were gonna say something, but hopefully I talked myself

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out of the hole that I was, talked yourself outta the hole.

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I had an

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entirely different experience this week.

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Okay.

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I have a patient with basically pelvic radiation

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that sort of fried some lymph nodes and so she

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gets lymphedema and then she'll get cellulitis.

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Which is infectious, not just inflammatory, it's infected.

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And she goes from cellulitis, gee that looks

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red and puffy, to septic in two to three hours.

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Now the medical physician, this is the,

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this goes back to what you were saying

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and what FSM people do, treat the cause.

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So the medical physicians that she's seeing say,

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the lymphedema is the cause of the cellulitis.

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And I looked at her and I said, that actually doesn't

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make any sense because lymphatic fluid is sterile,

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there's

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no bugs in it.

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It doesn't get infected from space.

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There is a reservoir of infections someplace in your body.

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And because The lymphatic fluid pools in

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your abdomen, where all that radiation was.

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The bug, from wherever it is, sits in that pool in your

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abdomen, and then you get cellulitis and infection.

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And then somebody, literally, she's got

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a laundry list of doctors that she sees.

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Has nobody talked to you about the reservoir of infection?

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What's that?

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Do you still have your tonsils?

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Yeah.

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Did you have your wisdom teeth out?

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Yeah.

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Okay, wisdom teeth, when they take them out,

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sometimes they put a filler in there and that

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becomes a focus of chronic occult infection.

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One of her bladder infections before all this started,

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she had chronic bladder infections, they cultured

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it, it was beta hemolytic strep in the bladder.

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Beta hemolytic strep.

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Lives in the tonsils.

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She still has her tonsils.

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She still has her appendix.

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Okay, this had nothing to do with FSM.

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I could treat radiation.

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I could treat scarring and lymphatics.

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And everything would soften.

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And the lymph nodes would clear.

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But it would fill back up again.

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And she always goes someplace with antibiotics.

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So I didn't worry about her getting cellulitis.

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But, what I When they tested your vitamin

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D levels, let's talk about prevention.

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So I'm going from, this is what

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FSM can do, to the stable state.

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What is our actual goal?

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Our actual goal is to fix the patient.

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So she looked up in her records, her

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vitamin D levels in January of this year,

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the last time they were tested, were 13.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And then we talked about vitamin C.

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So let's talk about, you are stuck with lymphedema

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because the architecture is just, permanently altered.

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I can't fix it.

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There's just too much, too many surgeries.

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FSM can help, but it's temporary.

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You already have gadgets at home.

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You already have PTs that are working on you.

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I'm not going to sell you a custom care.

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That's if you want to, you can buy one later, but not now.

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Let's.

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You're gonna take 50, 000 units of vitamin

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D three times a week for three months, and

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then you're gonna test your vitamin D levels.

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And then you're gonna take 50, 000 units of vitamin D

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for another three months, and then you're gonna test it.

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And then you're gonna slow down to once a week

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when your vitamin D levels get to 60 or 70.

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And then you're gonna take 5 grams of vitamin C a day.

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And you're going to ask your doctors

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to look for the reservoir of infection.

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She said, I have one doctor that actually listens to me.

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I said, that's the one you want to talk to.

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There was another one.

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She came in with lifelong, she was

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born with it, atopic dermatitis.

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She had, so her presenting complaint was eczema.

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And you could see it on her wrists.

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They were rough and red.

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Her eyes were dry.

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Her skin was dry.

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Her vagina was dry.

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Her elbows were like red and scaly and rough.

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Dang, girl.

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So first day, She's 67, and she's a vegan.

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Stick out your tongue.

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Deep groove down the middle.

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Bright red.

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There's no red in there.

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Maybe in those butterflies behind you, there's that red.

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They were bright red.

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Deep lateral grooves.

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And I said, and she too has been to multiple doctors.

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She was on steroids from infancy till she was in her 20s.

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And then she's been recovering from that.

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Now that was 40 years ago.

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So here's her tongue.

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And this is my other tool.

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That's, this is Dr.

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Google.

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So I just Googled B vitamin deficiency And atopic

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dermatitis, or B vitamin deficiency, and eczema.

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B1, B3, B5, B7, I didn't even know there was a 7.

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And everybody knows about B12.

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That's the tongue thing.

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She may or may not be able to methylate it, but

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she said, lots of people have looked at my tongue

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and they've never told me that I was B12 deficient.

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So we have that one slide in the core, the

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kind of peripheral neuropathy you can't fix.

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Thanks.

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So the first day, I said, your next stop

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between here and your hotel is to this

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Whole Foods or New Seasons or something.

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And you get B complex because it's not that leads

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to dry skin and dry, like every single symptom that

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she had was B vitamin deficiency and vitamin D.

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So she's found a good potency And

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instead is taking three dops once a week.

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She took six dropper fulls.

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A day, and by day three, the lateral

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grooves on her tongue were gone.

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Her tongue was normal color.

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The central groove and the deep

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grooves were starting to fill in.

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And it, there's no thing that FSM could do.

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Cause I ran inflammation in the skin,

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I ran vitality, I ran secretions.

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Then on the very last day, she's,

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and I ran the Constitutional factors.

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That was interesting.

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And then she said, you're born with it.

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And it's a genetic once again, Dr.

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Google between the patient and what I looked

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up a topic dermatitis, there's a genetic defect

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in the external barrier that we have that makes

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our skin smooth, that gives us an oil layer.

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And the outside part is smooth.

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It was There's a gene that just doesn't work right.

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I kept feeling like I was missing something.

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So you know how you look down the advanced paper laminate

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and you keep going until you find something that jumps out?

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There in the sulfeggio frequencies were repaired DNA.

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So the last half hour, on the last

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day that I had her, I did 528.

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And the skin, this got completely smooth,

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this went away completely, and her inner

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arm got 50 percent better in 30 minutes.

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And it's, so every day we ran leaky gut,

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every day we ran concussion in Vegas.

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Every day we wrapped from her neck to her hands

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because it's the atopic dermatitis is usually in the

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extremities, the elbows and the wrists and the knees.

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And with her, it was just all over extremity,

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but it's those were, we get the idea because we

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can fix so much with FSM, this whole stable state

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concept is that's why those slides are there.

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And in the course, there's so much and it's a drive

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by, but to think in terms of what makes the system

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function in such a way that we can help it repair itself.

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Unless she had adequate amounts

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of B12, I can do anything I want.

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Unless this girl's vitamin D was 60 instead of

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13, she was going to keep getting infections.

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Thanks.

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Until somebody biopsies her tonsils and finds

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out if they are the locus of infection for her

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recurring cellulitis, I can do anything I want.

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And FSM is not going to be able to fix it.

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So it's just, that was my week.

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Was

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We have very different weeks, but we both

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described the exact same thing about finding the

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driver is going to be the most important thing.

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And then knowing your limitations of What to expect, right?

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Yeah, I know this triathlete is going to tear and break the

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tissues when they compete in a week That is what I know.

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My job, my role during that in between period is getting the

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tissue as happy and their nervous system as confident and

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Yeah, when you treat athletes, this is

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back when I was doing all my athlete stuff.

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Our job is to fix them so they

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can go out and break it again.

509
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That's just, duh, yeah.

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And to convince the nervous system that it is safe

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and it is okay and they're going to be just fine.

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Because like you said the injuries that we

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typically get are not from the source that

514
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we complain about the pain from, right?

515
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My left hip was bothering me last year in Kona.

516
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,669
We found out my left, or sorry, my left SI was bothering me.

517
00:26:59,689 --> 00:27:01,589
It had nothing to do with my left SI.

518
00:27:01,589 --> 00:27:04,509
It had everything to do with my ribs on the right.

519
00:27:05,179 --> 00:27:07,439
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Oh, things change.

520
00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:10,329
We have a very interesting question that I feel

521
00:27:10,339 --> 00:27:11,779
like we're going to talk about for a little while.

522
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:13,949
So I want to get there for a second.

523
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,199
Denise asks, I've met several families

524
00:27:17,199 --> 00:27:18,749
lately who all have fibromyalgia.

525
00:27:19,859 --> 00:27:22,519
Some have BACs involved and some don't.

526
00:27:22,829 --> 00:27:25,069
Is fibromyalgia a genetic condition?

527
00:27:25,099 --> 00:27:27,279
If so, does the protocol we still

528
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,089
have a chance to work for them?

529
00:27:30,059 --> 00:27:30,259
I'm taking a

530
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,419
deep breath because of words.

531
00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:35,629
Oh, it's okay.

532
00:27:36,059 --> 00:27:40,229
The fibromyalgia from spine trauma amounts to about

533
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,449
27 percent in the literature and 40 percent in my

534
00:27:45,449 --> 00:27:49,619
personal experience, there is a genetic type of

535
00:27:49,619 --> 00:27:53,469
fibromyalgia where there is a genetic defect in.

536
00:27:54,134 --> 00:27:57,374
Either the dopamine pathways, or the serotonin

537
00:27:57,374 --> 00:28:02,584
pathways, or running in families, the other thing

538
00:28:02,584 --> 00:28:04,844
that runs in families is food sensitivities.

539
00:28:05,424 --> 00:28:07,444
So the whole family can be celiac.

540
00:28:08,154 --> 00:28:11,994
And not think of it as being celiac, so they're eating

541
00:28:12,634 --> 00:28:17,994
wheat, which gives them leaky gut, which gives them

542
00:28:19,324 --> 00:28:27,374
macrophage mediated pain, which gives them fibromyalgia.

543
00:28:28,364 --> 00:28:32,154
The other type of fibromyalgia is

544
00:28:32,154 --> 00:28:35,374
like the one with organic chemicals.

545
00:28:36,404 --> 00:28:37,724
Where are they raised?

546
00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:39,864
Do they all live in the same area?

547
00:28:40,404 --> 00:28:43,354
Or is this family spread out all over the United States

548
00:28:43,354 --> 00:28:47,364
and three foreign countries and they all have fibromyalgia?

549
00:28:47,644 --> 00:28:56,094
That, can it be just the architecture that they inherit?

550
00:28:56,644 --> 00:29:00,894
Their palate and larynx is soft and floppy,

551
00:29:01,254 --> 00:29:03,904
their necks are built a certain way, and

552
00:29:03,904 --> 00:29:07,514
everybody over the age of 17 has sleep apnea.

553
00:29:08,514 --> 00:29:13,739
Do they have a genetic alteration in the,

554
00:29:14,779 --> 00:29:17,899
usually it's Patrickal, Patrick's specialty was

555
00:29:17,929 --> 00:29:21,699
dopamine, mine was serotonin and fibromyalgia

556
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:24,819
from spine trauma, food sensitivities.

557
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:28,419
Those are the ones that can be genetic.

558
00:29:28,539 --> 00:29:34,179
So if you listen to the eight hour fibromyalgia

559
00:29:34,189 --> 00:29:40,485
workshop that has All seven or eight types and that

560
00:29:40,485 --> 00:29:43,705
includes the genetic type, but even the genetic type.

561
00:29:44,415 --> 00:29:48,115
There are some of them that will have a genetic defect.

562
00:29:48,865 --> 00:29:52,165
Like they can't phosphorylate B6.

563
00:29:52,745 --> 00:30:02,025
So B6 can't compete with estrogen in the,

564
00:30:03,005 --> 00:30:05,815
anti inflammatory prostaglandin pathways.

565
00:30:06,505 --> 00:30:08,955
So if they can't phosphorylate B6, they can't

566
00:30:08,955 --> 00:30:11,255
get to the steps, so they end up being inflamed,

567
00:30:11,265 --> 00:30:12,825
they end up being in pain, and once they're

568
00:30:12,825 --> 00:30:15,865
in pain, then fibromyalgia just tumbles down.

569
00:30:16,225 --> 00:30:18,995
So once your pain level's above, above a four,

570
00:30:19,445 --> 00:30:22,545
you can get fibromyalgia, but the gene that's

571
00:30:22,545 --> 00:30:26,135
involved is something you have to suss out.

572
00:30:26,785 --> 00:30:29,845
Are they sensitive to milk and gluten?

573
00:30:30,335 --> 00:30:33,955
Are probably the food sensitivities, IgG

574
00:30:33,955 --> 00:30:35,945
food sensitivities that run in families.

575
00:30:36,725 --> 00:30:42,945
There's dopamine snips, there's serotonin snips, there's

576
00:30:42,945 --> 00:30:48,055
methylation snips, and there's detoxification snips.

577
00:30:48,655 --> 00:30:54,405
And any of those genetic alterations, that get in the

578
00:30:54,405 --> 00:30:59,955
way of any of those genetic alterations that create

579
00:30:59,985 --> 00:31:03,395
pain will create fibromyalgia because once your pain is

580
00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:08,495
above a five or six it becomes a neuroendocrine problem.

581
00:31:09,645 --> 00:31:15,385
So it's the pain starts first and then the neuroendocrine

582
00:31:15,395 --> 00:31:19,105
system growth hormone is suppressed centrally.

583
00:31:19,485 --> 00:31:24,185
TSH is suppressed centrally and LH in females and males.

584
00:31:24,475 --> 00:31:25,635
Are suppressed centrally.

585
00:31:25,635 --> 00:31:31,435
So the males will have low sperm counts as well as body pain

586
00:31:31,885 --> 00:31:35,465
and that's so that's a whole eight hour workshop Denise.

587
00:31:35,795 --> 00:31:37,905
So I'm going to tell you, go back to that one.

588
00:31:38,525 --> 00:31:43,895
And the, there isn't the protocol 40 and 10 won't

589
00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:47,575
work on these people, because they're not from spine

590
00:31:47,585 --> 00:31:51,465
trauma, unless the whole family is earlier standards.

591
00:31:52,365 --> 00:31:52,835
So if they understand

592
00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:53,885
those.

593
00:31:54,225 --> 00:31:56,935
I was waiting for you to say, bring that up and I'll

594
00:31:56,935 --> 00:32:00,075
let you keep talking because and the problem I have

595
00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:04,075
with any type of time I see or hear fibromyalgia

596
00:32:05,325 --> 00:32:08,635
ask them to tell me about how they were diagnosed.

597
00:32:09,615 --> 00:32:10,095
Oh, my

598
00:32:10,095 --> 00:32:12,445
doctor found two tender points on

599
00:32:12,445 --> 00:32:14,645
my back and I have chronic fatigue.

600
00:32:14,655 --> 00:32:15,875
So this is what I have.

601
00:32:16,865 --> 00:32:17,615
Wow.

602
00:32:17,935 --> 00:32:20,745
And this is why we don't keep adult beverages in the clinic.

603
00:32:22,365 --> 00:32:24,145
This is what this, these are the people

604
00:32:24,145 --> 00:32:26,245
that come in because I prayed for patients.

605
00:32:26,615 --> 00:32:29,165
And so the universe is you want patients.

606
00:32:29,675 --> 00:32:30,155
Here you go.

607
00:32:31,695 --> 00:32:35,164
There, I do know of a family, and they all are Ehlers

608
00:32:35,165 --> 00:32:38,695
Danlos, and the two of them were diagnosed with

609
00:32:38,695 --> 00:32:41,575
fibro, and it had nothing to do with fibromyalgia.

610
00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:44,605
It was all Ehlers Danlos and mast cell.

611
00:32:45,885 --> 00:32:48,365
Ehlers Danlos, mast cell, and the Ehlers Danlos

612
00:32:48,365 --> 00:32:51,355
actually creates a 40 and 10 component because

613
00:32:51,355 --> 00:32:54,965
the discs leak and irritate the pain pathways.

614
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,760
And then their vagus gets turned off and then you get to the

615
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,690
mast cell component and it's just follow the bouncing ball.

616
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:03,550
Yeah.

617
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:08,740
That is the thing that makes the advanced so much fun.

618
00:33:09,210 --> 00:33:09,610
Yes.

619
00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:13,470
That it's the one place where everybody

620
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:17,863
that you're sitting next to or in a room

621
00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:23,155
with is, has got this We think differently.

622
00:33:23,155 --> 00:33:26,565
I guess because I beat people over the head with it.

623
00:33:26,745 --> 00:33:28,455
It's go back to the cause.

624
00:33:28,885 --> 00:33:29,275
And I

625
00:33:29,365 --> 00:33:32,205
think, I'm no expert in this, but I think a lot of

626
00:33:32,215 --> 00:33:35,685
people do get caught up with labels and diagnoses.

627
00:33:35,685 --> 00:33:37,105
And we talked with Dr.

628
00:33:37,105 --> 00:33:39,325
Musnick when we were talking about autoimmune.

629
00:33:39,335 --> 00:33:41,955
Some people are just very like doom and

630
00:33:41,955 --> 00:33:45,145
gloom when they get a autoimmune diagnosis.

631
00:33:46,515 --> 00:33:47,535
It's the opposite.

632
00:33:47,565 --> 00:33:51,265
It is something that is, can be so manageable provided

633
00:33:51,275 --> 00:33:54,725
that you have the right practitioner that can keep

634
00:33:54,735 --> 00:33:59,165
asking the right questions and can create an environment

635
00:33:59,335 --> 00:34:02,985
within your body that supports suppression and healing.

636
00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:05,265
David Mesnick turned my autoimmune

637
00:34:05,265 --> 00:34:07,325
condition off as long as I don't get gluten.

638
00:34:07,775 --> 00:34:09,985
If I'm in a situation or in a country where I

639
00:34:09,985 --> 00:34:13,780
don't have any, Choice and I, or it's, if I do

640
00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:15,900
this, I don't care, I'm going to do it anyway.

641
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:19,600
So if I get gluten, the spasticity comes back.

642
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,230
I knew it was going to, and in three days I

643
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:27,060
can get it gone again, because I do what Dr.

644
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:30,640
Mosnick told me and autoimmune conditions.

645
00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:36,850
You do have to clean up the peripheral tissue, but the

646
00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:42,650
basic process of creating an autoimmune condition is.

647
00:34:43,795 --> 00:34:49,095
Once you know how to think about it, then fixing it is fix

648
00:34:49,095 --> 00:34:52,075
the vagus, figure out what turned off the vagus in the first

649
00:34:52,075 --> 00:34:55,915
place, what happened one to three months before the first

650
00:34:55,915 --> 00:35:01,295
symptom hit you, fix the gut, and then treat the periphery.

651
00:35:02,695 --> 00:35:03,705
It's not that hard.

652
00:35:04,725 --> 00:35:08,125
And is there anybody that ever says that except us?

653
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,310
No, and I don't even want to say it because like

654
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,520
I'm, I am also worried about lightning as soon as I

655
00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:17,670
say that I want to go back viral for a second art.

656
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:23,210
Is there a There used to be a criteria for

657
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,630
the tender points for fibromyalgia diagnoses.

658
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,950
You're making a bit of a face.

659
00:35:27,950 --> 00:35:29,460
Is that still relevant?

660
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:30,750
Is that still what's being used?

661
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:35,070
And are there any other tests that corroborate?

662
00:35:35,130 --> 00:35:35,460
No.

663
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:35,850
Okay.

664
00:35:36,130 --> 00:35:40,740
I got rid of It used to be 11 out of 18 tender points

665
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:45,610
tender to less than 4 pounds per square inch pressure, non

666
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:52,520
restorative sleep, and non restorative sleep, 11 out of 18

667
00:35:52,530 --> 00:35:56,350
tender points, and I forget what the third criteria was.

668
00:35:57,230 --> 00:36:05,450
And then sometime around, had to be 2006 or 7.

669
00:36:06,755 --> 00:36:11,185
The American College of Rheumatology took out the

670
00:36:11,185 --> 00:36:15,155
tender point exam, and it left it with central

671
00:36:15,155 --> 00:36:18,465
sensitization, chronic non restorative sleep, widely

672
00:36:18,465 --> 00:36:22,275
disseminated body pain, lasting more than three months.

673
00:36:23,385 --> 00:36:27,845
And The summer of 2010, American Academy of

674
00:36:27,845 --> 00:36:30,135
Pain Management was meeting in Seattle, and

675
00:36:30,135 --> 00:36:34,235
I had a chance to go visit with John Russell.

676
00:36:35,245 --> 00:36:37,975
And I went up, and John and I have an

677
00:36:38,355 --> 00:36:40,375
interesting relationship to begin with.

678
00:36:41,185 --> 00:36:48,080
And, I said, can you tell me why you removed the only

679
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,590
objective finding for a diagnosis of fibromyalgia?

680
00:36:53,410 --> 00:36:56,140
What on earth were you thinking, John?

681
00:36:57,270 --> 00:37:00,050
And he rolled his eyes, and he looked not quite

682
00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:04,010
embarrassed, but his head, and he said, 25 years.

683
00:37:04,695 --> 00:37:08,775
We had that criteria for 25 years, and

684
00:37:08,775 --> 00:37:12,645
in 25 years, we could not teach them.

685
00:37:14,115 --> 00:37:18,035
If everybody that's watching takes their thumb and

686
00:37:18,045 --> 00:37:21,545
presses it on their index finger, like this, and you

687
00:37:21,545 --> 00:37:25,615
press, and look at your thumbnail, that's assuming you

688
00:37:25,615 --> 00:37:29,235
don't have polish on, you press, so you, your thumbnail's

689
00:37:29,245 --> 00:37:32,345
kind of pink if you're healthy and not hypoxic, then you

690
00:37:32,395 --> 00:37:37,695
press, and when the Thumbnail blanches at the bottom.

691
00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:40,215
It goes from pink to a little bit pale.

692
00:37:40,755 --> 00:37:42,185
That's four pounds.

693
00:37:42,245 --> 00:37:43,655
Now you can train yourself.

694
00:37:44,385 --> 00:37:47,385
We have a bunch of kitchen scales.

695
00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:50,645
So you can train yourself to what four pounds is.

696
00:37:50,715 --> 00:37:52,155
I said, John.

697
00:37:52,995 --> 00:37:57,283
He said we couldn't teach them what four pounds felt like.

698
00:37:57,283 --> 00:37:59,424
I said, I have an algometer.

699
00:37:59,695 --> 00:38:00,675
You just measure it.

700
00:38:00,685 --> 00:38:03,695
He said they wouldn't spend the 150.

701
00:38:04,275 --> 00:38:06,075
He said, what is the point of having

702
00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:09,205
a criteria that they won't use?

703
00:38:10,585 --> 00:38:12,665
I went, oh, okay.

704
00:38:13,225 --> 00:38:15,935
I still use it, but that's why

705
00:38:15,935 --> 00:38:17,635
it's not part of the criteria.

706
00:38:18,105 --> 00:38:21,715
So you can't have two tender spots on your back.

707
00:38:22,055 --> 00:38:24,475
You can't have fibromyalgia of the right shoulder.

708
00:38:25,805 --> 00:38:32,075
When I teach a class, one of the things that you start

709
00:38:32,075 --> 00:38:38,285
with is Bob Grimm's, Robert Grimm, MD neurologist,

710
00:38:38,815 --> 00:38:42,845
his voice in my ear saying, the first thing you

711
00:38:42,845 --> 00:38:45,745
do when you walk in, when they walk in the door is

712
00:38:45,745 --> 00:38:49,885
you ignore every diagnosis that they've ever had.

713
00:38:50,885 --> 00:38:52,765
You just start over.

714
00:38:53,935 --> 00:38:56,785
So they walk in with the diagnosis of.

715
00:38:56,855 --> 00:38:59,635
Lymphedema and cellulitis.

716
00:39:00,955 --> 00:39:04,655
Okay, there's a reasonable cause for that, but So

717
00:39:04,655 --> 00:39:08,105
I didn't ignore You can't ignore the fact that she

718
00:39:08,105 --> 00:39:11,055
had surgery and radiation and there's lymphedema.

719
00:39:12,015 --> 00:39:14,195
But lymphatic fluid is sterile.

720
00:39:15,175 --> 00:39:18,675
Did anybody ever talk to you about a reservoir of infection?

721
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:20,400
No.

722
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,020
Did anybody ever talk to you about trying to prove,

723
00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:28,500
strengthen your immune systems so you don't get sepsis?

724
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,090
No.

725
00:39:31,090 --> 00:39:32,730
Fibromyalgia is the same way.

726
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:35,290
Patient came in with a diagnosis of

727
00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:37,030
fibromyalgia on the right shoulder.

728
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,910
There is no such thing.

729
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,180
Full body, longer than three months.

730
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,246
That's fibromyalgia.

731
00:39:44,246 --> 00:39:49,850
And you can't help that it's not their specialty.

732
00:39:50,370 --> 00:39:53,109
You can't help that they're just I have an autoimmune

733
00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:58,369
condition, or had, have, an autoimmune condition called

734
00:39:58,369 --> 00:40:04,079
stiff person syndrome, and the neurologist I saw after I

735
00:40:04,089 --> 00:40:07,739
had imaging that showed I didn't have MS, I didn't have

736
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:12,519
ALS, and I didn't have spinal cord myelopathy, but I had

737
00:40:12,659 --> 00:40:18,699
spastic or tight really tight lower leg and chest muscles.

738
00:40:19,729 --> 00:40:22,149
I swear to you, the neurologist

739
00:40:22,149 --> 00:40:25,299
said, maybe you have fibromyalgia.

740
00:40:26,329 --> 00:40:29,379
And I went, I don't have fibromyalgia.

741
00:40:30,399 --> 00:40:31,289
How do you know?

742
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:33,969
It was, that part was really fun.

743
00:40:34,099 --> 00:40:37,189
So I actually sent him Leon Chaito's book, my

744
00:40:37,189 --> 00:40:41,359
syllabus, bunch of other papers on fibromyalgia.

745
00:40:42,404 --> 00:40:45,734
And it's, and I sent him with a very polite note that

746
00:40:45,734 --> 00:40:48,464
says you're one of the best neurologists I've ever seen

747
00:40:48,474 --> 00:40:51,654
and nobody as good as you are should be this ignorant.

748
00:40:52,204 --> 00:40:55,764
Read the attached and then you will know better.

749
00:40:56,874 --> 00:40:58,654
I only seem like a nice lady.

750
00:40:59,164 --> 00:41:00,924
If it's just one of those things, I'm

751
00:41:01,454 --> 00:41:01,724
sorry.

752
00:41:02,054 --> 00:41:02,464
You're right.

753
00:41:03,154 --> 00:41:08,074
Again, going back to if your training only enabled you to

754
00:41:08,074 --> 00:41:14,519
see very myopic set of symptoms, And it was just very easy

755
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:18,789
to give that set of symptoms a label, and people were okay

756
00:41:18,789 --> 00:41:22,929
with that label, and it doesn't change how you treat that

757
00:41:23,149 --> 00:41:28,299
patient, as far as prescription, or, whatever, where's

758
00:41:28,299 --> 00:41:33,269
the motivation to, to change or to do anything with us?

759
00:41:33,899 --> 00:41:35,349
It's everything.

760
00:41:35,419 --> 00:41:37,889
Tissue type is everything.

761
00:41:37,909 --> 00:41:41,349
Pathology and causation is everything.

762
00:41:42,539 --> 00:41:43,769
What caused it?

763
00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:44,799
How

764
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,019
did it get like this?

765
00:41:47,439 --> 00:41:47,879
Yeah.

766
00:41:48,859 --> 00:41:50,199
I think all the time.

767
00:41:50,279 --> 00:41:50,799
Yes.

768
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,819
The good old days, A and B what's on a,

769
00:41:53,819 --> 00:41:56,509
what's on B German shepherd on my lap, right?

770
00:41:57,954 --> 00:42:00,304
Now it's okay.

771
00:42:00,744 --> 00:42:03,394
This on a is happening to this on

772
00:42:03,394 --> 00:42:06,604
B, but don't get caught up in that.

773
00:42:06,614 --> 00:42:08,044
How did it get like that?

774
00:42:09,044 --> 00:42:15,814
And what else do you have to do to help the patient recover?

775
00:42:16,014 --> 00:42:16,884
How can you support?

776
00:42:18,224 --> 00:42:20,304
Yeah, our goal is not just to

777
00:42:20,304 --> 00:42:22,434
run FSM as far as I'm concerned.

778
00:42:23,144 --> 00:42:28,684
Our goal is to change medicine one patient at a time.

779
00:42:29,274 --> 00:42:29,574
Yeah.

780
00:42:30,074 --> 00:42:33,594
And change patients lives by helping them recover.

781
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:38,014
And sometimes recovery is vitamin D and vitamin C and B12.

782
00:42:39,704 --> 00:42:41,844
And you don't have to be, you seem to be

783
00:42:41,844 --> 00:42:43,634
such an expert in so many of these stuff.

784
00:42:44,194 --> 00:42:45,594
different areas.

785
00:42:46,164 --> 00:42:48,664
A lot of us aren't, but that's when the,

786
00:42:48,884 --> 00:42:51,514
that's when networking becomes so important.

787
00:42:51,514 --> 00:42:54,064
That's when making friends in different

788
00:42:54,504 --> 00:42:56,534
professions becomes so important.

789
00:42:56,544 --> 00:42:57,524
I can't do this.

790
00:42:57,544 --> 00:42:58,824
Can you see this person?

791
00:42:58,824 --> 00:43:00,214
What do you recommend for this?

792
00:43:00,264 --> 00:43:03,764
And I think true healthcare needs to be

793
00:43:03,774 --> 00:43:05,914
much more collaborative than what it is.

794
00:43:05,924 --> 00:43:08,914
What's the jack of all trades, master of none.

795
00:43:08,924 --> 00:43:10,944
I don't think that has any place in healthcare.

796
00:43:10,964 --> 00:43:12,334
I'm really good at mechanics.

797
00:43:12,354 --> 00:43:13,314
I stick to that.

798
00:43:13,914 --> 00:43:15,144
I ask for what I need.

799
00:43:15,804 --> 00:43:19,624
I just listen to information.

800
00:43:20,394 --> 00:43:23,514
Like Roger Billika gives a lecture.

801
00:43:24,824 --> 00:43:28,264
I read the molecules of behavior

802
00:43:29,294 --> 00:43:31,554
three, four, six times a year.

803
00:43:32,864 --> 00:43:35,554
I look over David Musnick slides.

804
00:43:36,604 --> 00:43:39,984
Every time I do a core, speaking of which we have

805
00:43:39,984 --> 00:43:46,634
a core in December, a five day, and we have a two

806
00:43:46,634 --> 00:43:50,764
day practicum in November and a two day rehab class.

807
00:43:50,764 --> 00:43:52,884
And are you doing a sports advanced?

808
00:43:53,344 --> 00:43:54,654
The day is there for it.

809
00:43:54,654 --> 00:43:55,764
And there's, yes,

810
00:43:56,254 --> 00:43:56,504
there's

811
00:43:56,784 --> 00:43:57,894
a couple people signed up.

812
00:43:58,004 --> 00:43:59,264
We're going to do it no matter what.

813
00:43:59,314 --> 00:44:00,894
So it's a class.

814
00:44:00,894 --> 00:44:01,384
It's fun.

815
00:44:02,054 --> 00:44:03,494
Okay, that'll be fun.

816
00:44:03,964 --> 00:44:06,764
Think of that, and then we have, we're going to be dark

817
00:44:06,844 --> 00:44:11,334
January and February, mostly because my clinic schedule,

818
00:44:11,654 --> 00:44:14,654
because I was gone so much this last year, my clinic

819
00:44:14,754 --> 00:44:18,084
schedule is solid all through January and February.

820
00:44:18,084 --> 00:44:19,684
I don't have any time to do a seminar.

821
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,669
So then there's Arizona and the advanced is, I don't

822
00:44:24,669 --> 00:44:26,869
know how many people are signed up for the advanced

823
00:44:26,869 --> 00:44:30,979
and symposium, but it is an extraordinary lineup.

824
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:35,479
The case reports are from literally all over the world.

825
00:44:36,364 --> 00:44:40,484
Eduardo is coming, Kasia is coming from Poland,

826
00:44:41,034 --> 00:44:45,104
there's a, May is coming from Belgium, there are

827
00:44:45,104 --> 00:44:48,174
practitioners coming from all over, and speakers

828
00:44:48,174 --> 00:44:52,164
coming, I don't, Jerry Pollock may or may not be

829
00:44:52,164 --> 00:44:56,704
speaking because his computer got stolen in Poland at

830
00:44:56,704 --> 00:44:59,944
the water conference, and he didn't have it backed up.

831
00:45:00,954 --> 00:45:02,274
That's a good face.

832
00:45:03,124 --> 00:45:04,914
Oh, that makes me feel.

833
00:45:06,644 --> 00:45:09,234
Yeah, I just, I cannot imagine.

834
00:45:10,074 --> 00:45:11,254
That's, I don't know.

835
00:45:11,524 --> 00:45:14,704
So I, he's still, so I may have a 90

836
00:45:14,814 --> 00:45:16,574
minute slot that we get to fill with.

837
00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:21,019
But it's still the only place, it's

838
00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:22,789
the only place you feel normal.

839
00:45:23,959 --> 00:45:26,329
We ask questions that nobody else asks.

840
00:45:26,749 --> 00:45:28,799
We know things that nobody else, we

841
00:45:28,799 --> 00:45:30,749
think things that nobody else thinks.

842
00:45:31,069 --> 00:45:33,299
We ask questions that nobody else asks.

843
00:45:33,749 --> 00:45:34,029
Yeah.

844
00:45:34,030 --> 00:45:36,499
We know random stuff.

845
00:45:36,999 --> 00:45:40,379
So people that are listening to this podcast.

846
00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:45,639
I, there's, there should be about 30 to 40 percent

847
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:47,989
of you that go into the bathroom, especially those

848
00:45:47,989 --> 00:45:50,439
of you that are vegetarians over the age of 40,

849
00:45:50,919 --> 00:45:53,069
go into the bathroom and stick your tongue out.

850
00:45:54,359 --> 00:45:55,599
It's what color is it?

851
00:45:55,879 --> 00:45:57,159
Does it have grooves?

852
00:45:58,059 --> 00:46:01,539
And then Dr.

853
00:46:01,539 --> 00:46:03,129
Google is fascinating.

854
00:46:04,294 --> 00:46:07,574
What causes atopic dermatitis?

855
00:46:08,354 --> 00:46:10,094
I thought, leaky gut.

856
00:46:10,134 --> 00:46:12,394
It's all the immune system activation.

857
00:46:13,394 --> 00:46:15,994
Nope, that wasn't it.

858
00:46:16,734 --> 00:46:18,984
I can run vitality in the skin until

859
00:46:18,984 --> 00:46:23,764
I'm blue, but she sticks her tongue out.

860
00:46:24,224 --> 00:46:26,524
It's bright red and has grooves all over it.

861
00:46:27,094 --> 00:46:32,064
Oops, that's not a, that's not a thing that FSM can fix,

862
00:46:32,065 --> 00:46:36,304
but you can support it in other ways.

863
00:46:36,304 --> 00:46:39,994
So it's not about just seeing a list of symptoms

864
00:46:40,094 --> 00:46:44,494
and signs and checking them off as you go along.

865
00:46:44,524 --> 00:46:46,454
It's learning how to connect the dots.

866
00:46:46,474 --> 00:46:47,794
You always talk about pattern

867
00:46:47,794 --> 00:46:50,504
recognition, putting it together.

868
00:46:51,824 --> 00:46:55,104
Developing a plan and knowing where you can help support

869
00:46:55,114 --> 00:46:58,164
healing and where you need to ask for help and bring

870
00:46:58,164 --> 00:47:00,404
in other things like there's always something that you

871
00:47:00,404 --> 00:47:04,194
can do, provided that patient just walks in the door.

872
00:47:04,854 --> 00:47:05,184
Yeah.

873
00:47:05,774 --> 00:47:09,504
And it's, and when you said put things together,

874
00:47:10,104 --> 00:47:15,229
the, on this patient with the, B12 in the skin.

875
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:20,759
I treated leaky gut four days in a row.

876
00:47:22,209 --> 00:47:23,829
B12 has to be absorbed.

877
00:47:24,609 --> 00:47:26,599
In order for B12 to be absorbed, you

878
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:28,119
have to have enough stomach acid.

879
00:47:28,399 --> 00:47:30,169
This lady was on steroids.

880
00:47:30,909 --> 00:47:33,899
oral and topical for 25 years.

881
00:47:35,299 --> 00:47:38,809
Yeah, treated her leaky gut, but the gut has

882
00:47:38,809 --> 00:47:44,909
to be able, healthy enough, to absorb B12.

883
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,039
So she's taking it sublingually, so it's absorbed

884
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:50,429
through her mouth, doesn't have to, she's not

885
00:47:50,429 --> 00:47:52,289
going to eat meat, so she's not going to get

886
00:47:52,289 --> 00:47:56,379
it that way, but the gut has to be healthy.

887
00:47:56,984 --> 00:48:00,784
In order for the patient to be healthy, so

888
00:48:00,884 --> 00:48:03,444
it's, it, everything's connected to everything.

889
00:48:03,454 --> 00:48:06,254
I think that's going to be another banner, right?

890
00:48:06,874 --> 00:48:11,364
I think it, at the very least, when you have complex,

891
00:48:11,404 --> 00:48:16,054
complicated patients that walk in to ask the basic

892
00:48:16,054 --> 00:48:19,804
questions about their digestion and about their sleep,

893
00:48:20,774 --> 00:48:21,024
if

894
00:48:21,074 --> 00:48:23,204
you are not digesting your food and you

895
00:48:23,204 --> 00:48:26,324
are not sleeping at night, nothing matters.

896
00:48:27,664 --> 00:48:28,524
You got it.

897
00:48:28,525 --> 00:48:28,539
Nothing.

898
00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:29,269
That's it.

899
00:48:30,279 --> 00:48:31,689
We have to be able to digest our food.

900
00:48:31,689 --> 00:48:32,919
We have to be able to sleep at night.

901
00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:34,989
Oh, and that was the other thing.

902
00:48:35,999 --> 00:48:39,129
The patient with the recurrent infections also

903
00:48:39,129 --> 00:48:42,869
had her right inner, she had a tumor in her

904
00:48:42,869 --> 00:48:45,629
right inner ear, and so she had a vestibular

905
00:48:46,049 --> 00:48:48,599
injury, so she woke up every 60 to 90 minutes.

906
00:48:49,289 --> 00:48:53,239
explained about pillows and nightlights and meclizine and

907
00:48:53,249 --> 00:48:58,649
Valium and all of that in terms of getting her to sleep.

908
00:48:59,459 --> 00:49:01,919
I don't, I've been taking Ambien

909
00:49:01,979 --> 00:49:03,219
and I want to wean off of it.

910
00:49:03,229 --> 00:49:03,909
It's like, why?

911
00:49:04,359 --> 00:49:08,189
I shouldn't be taking pills to sleep.

912
00:49:08,249 --> 00:49:09,739
That's an interesting concept.

913
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:14,869
On the other hand, if you don't take pills, do you sleep?

914
00:49:15,429 --> 00:49:15,799
No?

915
00:49:16,269 --> 00:49:17,179
Then take pills.

916
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:21,689
Because sleep is more important than your

917
00:49:21,699 --> 00:49:24,589
idea about what you should or should not do.

918
00:49:25,439 --> 00:49:25,759
Don't

919
00:49:25,759 --> 00:49:27,989
get attached to your idea about things.

920
00:49:28,444 --> 00:49:29,964
That's an interesting concept.

921
00:49:30,234 --> 00:49:32,694
That could be a whole podcast onto its own

922
00:49:32,774 --> 00:49:38,724
is the attachment we have to the diagnosis,

923
00:49:38,774 --> 00:49:40,944
the attachment that we have to treatment.

924
00:49:40,994 --> 00:49:44,244
It's not easy and you can't be everybody's friend, right?

925
00:49:44,244 --> 00:49:46,274
You have to have a tough conversation sometimes.

926
00:49:46,874 --> 00:49:49,099
Every now and then there is a Come to

927
00:49:49,099 --> 00:49:52,809
Jesus conversation about something.

928
00:49:53,429 --> 00:49:57,389
It's, I know you're not going to eat meat, but you have

929
00:49:57,389 --> 00:50:02,419
to do this, or you have to be okay with being sick.

930
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:05,889
There's no way to get you better unless you do this.

931
00:50:06,389 --> 00:50:09,079
And if you're not going to do that,

932
00:50:09,129 --> 00:50:11,119
and whether that's wheat, corn, milk,

933
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:12,709
whatever.

934
00:50:13,249 --> 00:50:14,089
Exercises.

935
00:50:14,379 --> 00:50:15,719
Yeah, exactly.

936
00:50:15,809 --> 00:50:16,439
Then.

937
00:50:17,429 --> 00:50:18,659
You can't have it both ways.

938
00:50:18,959 --> 00:50:22,329
No, and like your job as the healthcare provider is

939
00:50:22,329 --> 00:50:25,009
to have those hard conversations, especially if it's

940
00:50:25,429 --> 00:50:29,179
blaring and glaring at you right in the face, right?

941
00:50:29,619 --> 00:50:30,609
The flame is there.

942
00:50:30,609 --> 00:50:33,259
You see the person putting their flame in the fire.

943
00:50:33,629 --> 00:50:34,729
My hand keeps getting burned.

944
00:50:34,799 --> 00:50:36,709
Don't put your hand in the fire.

945
00:50:38,174 --> 00:50:38,864
Exactly.

946
00:50:39,164 --> 00:50:39,634
Stop doing that.

947
00:50:39,634 --> 00:50:40,704
It hurts when I do that.

948
00:50:40,964 --> 00:50:41,624
Don't do that.

949
00:50:43,024 --> 00:50:43,654
That's a thought.

950
00:50:44,214 --> 00:50:48,444
And of course, with athletes, my job is to help

951
00:50:48,444 --> 00:50:52,524
them move through everything as best as possible.

952
00:50:52,544 --> 00:50:55,264
But when they, like I said, the non negotiables are

953
00:50:55,264 --> 00:50:58,999
digestion and sleep because I've, and that's only been

954
00:50:59,009 --> 00:51:02,119
years of experience of why isn't this person getting better.

955
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:02,419
Okay.

956
00:51:02,419 --> 00:51:04,009
It's not my fault.

957
00:51:04,049 --> 00:51:06,469
I can't do everything in an hour and a half.

958
00:51:07,059 --> 00:51:09,079
When you think of sleep as just what's

959
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:12,299
a big deal about sleep, 85 percent of

960
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:15,769
growth hormone is made during deep sleep.

961
00:51:16,409 --> 00:51:20,059
And if you're not getting deep sleep, then you're

962
00:51:20,059 --> 00:51:22,899
not getting growth hormone and growth hormone in

963
00:51:22,899 --> 00:51:28,189
an adult mediates the transport amino acids across.

964
00:51:28,444 --> 00:51:32,874
The gut wall across the cell wall to repair muscles.

965
00:51:34,404 --> 00:51:35,694
That's why you're sleeping.

966
00:51:35,704 --> 00:51:37,724
You're not sleeping because I want you to sleep.

967
00:51:37,724 --> 00:51:39,944
You're sleeping because you need growth hormone.

968
00:51:40,414 --> 00:51:42,414
The repair and heal is taking place

969
00:51:42,514 --> 00:51:44,794
during that deep restorative sleep.

970
00:51:44,804 --> 00:51:47,544
So the question of, so do you sleep well at night?

971
00:51:47,774 --> 00:51:49,424
Is not the question that you ask.

972
00:51:49,454 --> 00:51:51,854
You ask them, what time do you go to sleep at?

973
00:51:52,204 --> 00:51:52,504
Fine.

974
00:51:52,624 --> 00:51:54,234
What time do you wake up at?

975
00:51:54,284 --> 00:51:54,654
Fine.

976
00:51:55,004 --> 00:51:57,384
How many times do you wake up in the night?

977
00:51:57,784 --> 00:51:59,364
Why do you wake up in the night?

978
00:51:59,404 --> 00:52:00,294
Is it to pee?

979
00:52:00,314 --> 00:52:01,424
Is it from pain?

980
00:52:01,434 --> 00:52:03,544
Is it because your partner is snoring?

981
00:52:03,554 --> 00:52:04,414
Do you snore?

982
00:52:04,544 --> 00:52:05,384
Do you sleep with the pet?

983
00:52:05,524 --> 00:52:11,084
There's, this is a very long conversation and Dr.

984
00:52:11,084 --> 00:52:13,694
Musnick is going to be talking about it at the Advanced

985
00:52:13,704 --> 00:52:16,674
in, for three hours, and it, I'm, I can't wait for it

986
00:52:16,674 --> 00:52:19,394
because he tried to do it in 90 minutes a couple years

987
00:52:19,394 --> 00:52:23,094
ago, and I wanted to pass out because it was just like, too

988
00:52:23,094 --> 00:52:25,744
fast, too much, and there was so much that we had missed.

989
00:52:25,774 --> 00:52:29,314
It's one of the reasons I have the same speakers back.

990
00:52:30,914 --> 00:52:35,824
And sometimes we, I'll skip a couple of years on a topic

991
00:52:35,874 --> 00:52:40,364
and then bring it back again, having given him three hours.

992
00:52:40,364 --> 00:52:42,664
There's no reason anybody that has not,

993
00:52:43,204 --> 00:52:45,764
that has already taken the advanced section

994
00:52:46,164 --> 00:52:48,084
should listen to me for three hours.

995
00:52:48,224 --> 00:52:51,394
That's why you get three hours and.

996
00:52:52,074 --> 00:52:52,504
Dr.

997
00:52:52,504 --> 00:52:56,674
Masnick gets three hours and then I like people

998
00:52:56,674 --> 00:53:00,364
to understand the concepts of what we're doing,

999
00:53:00,834 --> 00:53:03,324
which is why Julianna Morton sent us back.

1000
00:53:03,464 --> 00:53:10,129
And then the hot topic this year from Everybody, Dr.

1001
00:53:10,129 --> 00:53:14,309
Mosnick is doing 90 minutes on long COVID, Christy Hughes

1002
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:18,849
is doing 90 minutes on long COVID, Becky Blodgett is

1003
00:53:18,859 --> 00:53:27,699
doing 60 minutes on blood vessel health and sleep apnea.

1004
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,189
So her hot button is sleep apnea and what it

1005
00:53:31,189 --> 00:53:34,139
does to the blood vessels, and then that ends

1006
00:53:34,139 --> 00:53:38,159
up right back at sleep and long COVID and.

1007
00:53:39,339 --> 00:53:42,779
gut repair and repairing the blood vessels.

1008
00:53:42,779 --> 00:53:43,629
And it's just, and then

1009
00:53:43,629 --> 00:53:45,069
you go on the plane when you leave and

1010
00:53:45,069 --> 00:53:47,769
you're like, I am going to fix the world.

1011
00:53:48,729 --> 00:53:49,889
Is that inspirational?

1012
00:53:50,349 --> 00:53:50,659
Yeah.

1013
00:53:50,739 --> 00:53:53,229
And just like that, an hour has gone.

1014
00:53:53,249 --> 00:53:54,539
Oh, look at that.

1015
00:53:54,629 --> 00:53:55,119
It's there.

1016
00:53:56,999 --> 00:54:00,079
But thanks for letting me debrief about my menisci today.

1017
00:54:00,909 --> 00:54:03,669
That's well, it's a great way to think about it

1018
00:54:03,669 --> 00:54:06,369
because I had not thought about the difference

1019
00:54:06,409 --> 00:54:10,409
in and the other thing is that it's not arteries.

1020
00:54:10,419 --> 00:54:11,279
It's capillaries.

1021
00:54:12,269 --> 00:54:15,269
So it's capillaries in the meniscus.

1022
00:54:15,339 --> 00:54:18,569
So you're treating bleeding in the capillaries, torn and

1023
00:54:18,609 --> 00:54:21,629
broken in the capillaries, vitality in the capillaries.

1024
00:54:22,394 --> 00:54:24,004
And that takes us back to why the

1025
00:54:24,004 --> 00:54:26,874
case reports are so important.

1026
00:54:26,884 --> 00:54:29,314
We are, the case report slots are all full.

1027
00:54:29,864 --> 00:54:32,634
But people are still sending in case reports, so we are

1028
00:54:32,634 --> 00:54:36,564
going to have poster presentations all around the room.

1029
00:54:37,084 --> 00:54:40,314
And apparently this year we're having exhibitors,

1030
00:54:40,344 --> 00:54:45,104
because there are two nutritional companies that are, the

1031
00:54:45,104 --> 00:54:49,434
speakers, our visceral speakers want to have exhibits.

1032
00:54:49,484 --> 00:54:51,154
That was on my list.

1033
00:54:51,204 --> 00:54:52,364
It's going to be a good time.

1034
00:54:52,724 --> 00:54:52,874
And

1035
00:54:52,874 --> 00:54:53,764
I get to see you

1036
00:54:53,765 --> 00:54:55,314
in two weeks!

1037
00:54:55,434 --> 00:54:56,034
A week?

1038
00:54:56,404 --> 00:54:57,664
No, I'm coming Sunday.

1039
00:54:57,664 --> 00:54:58,734
Okay!

1040
00:54:59,414 --> 00:55:01,724
It's half a, not even a week.

1041
00:55:01,994 --> 00:55:02,214
Yes.

1042
00:55:02,224 --> 00:55:03,074
Oh my god.

1043
00:55:03,075 --> 00:55:06,764
Are you going to be in Portland on Wednesday?

1044
00:55:06,974 --> 00:55:08,204
Are you going home on Tuesday?

1045
00:55:08,454 --> 00:55:11,314
Wednesday and then we'll be able to, I'll do the sports

1046
00:55:11,364 --> 00:55:13,964
advanced course and then we'll do our podcast together.

1047
00:55:14,374 --> 00:55:15,144
In person!

1048
00:55:15,534 --> 00:55:17,644
Oh, how fun!

1049
00:55:17,764 --> 00:55:19,994
Yes, so next week we will see

1050
00:55:20,274 --> 00:55:23,104
everybody, we'll be side by side.

1051
00:55:23,604 --> 00:55:24,874
That'll be so much fun.

1052
00:55:25,874 --> 00:55:26,764
Have a good week.

1053
00:55:27,074 --> 00:55:27,414
Yes.

1054
00:55:28,384 --> 00:55:29,826
And we'll see you soon.

1055
00:55:29,826 --> 00:55:30,600
See you

1056
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:30,987
soon.

1057
00:55:30,987 --> 00:55:31,374
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1058
00:55:32,914 --> 00:55:34,224
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1059
00:55:34,224 --> 00:55:36,054
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1060
00:55:36,054 --> 00:55:37,814
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1061
00:55:37,844 --> 00:55:39,644
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1062
00:55:39,644 --> 00:55:41,264
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1063
00:55:41,304 --> 00:55:43,434
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1064
00:55:43,884 --> 00:55:46,314
And unless expressly stated, do not reflect the opinions

1065
00:55:46,314 --> 00:55:48,924
of its affiliates, subsidiaries, or sponsors, or the hosts,

1066
00:55:49,014 --> 00:55:50,784
or any of the podcast guests or affiliated professional

1067
00:55:50,784 --> 00:55:53,774
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1068
00:55:53,774 --> 00:55:56,684
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1069
00:55:56,684 --> 00:55:58,484
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1070
00:55:58,724 --> 00:56:00,284
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1071
00:56:00,284 --> 00:56:02,504
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1072
00:56:02,504 --> 00:56:05,024
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1073
00:56:05,024 --> 00:56:06,914
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1074
00:56:06,914 --> 00:56:10,064
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