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Welcome to the architect of Resilience podcast, where

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we explore the secrets of overcoming life's challenges and

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unlocking unstoppable strength through deep personal

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conversations and expert insights. Welcome

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to the architect of resilience. That's the podcast

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for you. I say for you because that is

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really the intent of this podcast, is to have deep, meaningful

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conversations diving into different aspects around

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resilience. Resilience of body, mind, soul, business.

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Doesn't matter whether it's physiology or

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depression. We're going to tackle it all. So, really

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excited today to have our guests,

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Joe and Ollie from Mackie clamps here with

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us to talk about, well, resilience of barbells

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and plate. Staying on barbells, actually, which is,

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if anybody watches my videos from way back in the day, know this is

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quite a problematic issue, and, in

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fact, creates a lot of emotion when it goes wrong. It

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is not an enjoyable experience. So, yeah,

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welcome to the show. Thank you for having us. Yeah, so

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dynamic duo here. Not sure who's

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Batman and who's Robin, but we've got

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Joe Mackey, who is. He's got an interesting background.

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Being an IFBB pro, an entrepreneur. We've got

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our Olympic lifter and our mass

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monster today positioned to dwarf

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his. Actually, I moved the cameras around to take that out. We did.

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Original setup. That was like the whole bodybuilder all

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the way in front. But, Ollie, really great engineering

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background. In addition to the Olympic lifting,

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I'm. Trying to use my hands to push my muscles out, you know, so when

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I'm sitting next to Joe, I don't look too small, you know, perfect. You know

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all the tricks, man. Yeah, I wore mostly shirts.

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Yeah, the other thing. So, Ollie, if you're driving a

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car, you know, that's where you roll the window down and look really big. You

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got the arm on the window and just kind of push it in like that.

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Yeah, yeah, that's true. Absolutely. That's how you do it. I

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know. You know, Philip, any, any gearhead knows this trick, right? 100%.

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100%. That's like, if someone's acting crazy on the freeway

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or whatever, I've had that happen to, like, someone get next to me out there.

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Accident. Cut them all four. We're going back and forth and throw the window

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down, hang the arm around. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's not

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for the, for listeners, it's not that. Just like, hang the arm out. You gotta,

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like, give it the good side. Smush like that, and it'll blow up and

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your. Your veins will stick out like you got all the

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money there. 100%.

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Yeah. So let's. Let's just started talking about,

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I guess, the introduction, like, what brought about

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you guys. Well, first just coming together. Yeah. Well, I'll start it

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off. I think it's cool. You just said that

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this was a problem in regards to, like, when you were lifted, which, not trying

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to say those long ago. How many years ago was it when you were in

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a. Oh, my God. I. Well, I. Lifted from

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competitively from 2000 till 2016 and then heavy

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until 2020. That is crazy. So that's. That's cool. That's

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interesting information, actually. So, I mean, we. When we brought

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the. And I'll get back to the whole. How we were talking about this on

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a plane up here from Dallas, how we met. And I'll let him tell you

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as far as that goes. But matter of fact, I'm

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gonna pause it for just a second. So make sure you're speaking

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into the mic. So either when you're talking to me, move it that way,

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or just, like, speak into it, because it doesn't matter that you're looking at me.

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Okay, cameras are here. So cool. Just go more like. Yeah,

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just make sure you're facing this and don't care whether. Okay,

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so talk directly into the microphone. I'm gonna hit. Go. All

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right. So, yeah, we were. I'll let Ali

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actually talk to you about how we met.

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And I'll just say from the beginning, Ali and I were friends. We were at

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the jail. We always. Every time I came to the gym, I was always

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serious. If I happened to, I could always feel someone staring at me or looking

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at my direction. I would look over and sure enough, it was Ali.

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He's giving you the googly eyes right now. So just so you know,

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he's. Look, we got him on camera. He's still doing it. He's still doing it.

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So how did. Yeah, tell us, Ali. Tell us the story. How that story. Go

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ahead, Ali. Yeah, it's

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a pretty funny, interesting story, and

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it's very Joe Mackey like story. So

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I. You know, I'm me being an olympic lifter, I spend a lot of my

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time doing rehab work, you know, just from having tight muscles

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and the crazy stuff that we do. And

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I was doing foam rolling just on the mat at destination

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Dallas, the gym that we work out at. And, you know, I'm in the zone.

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I'm thinking about my sets, what I'm going to do. I'm rolling out my right

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latch, and I just could have sworn that I

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saw a black panther or a black cat

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walking by me. And, you know, it

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broke my focus. And I turned around, I was like, what is that? And when

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I took a second look, I saw that it was Joe Mackey's. Calves,

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not him, but it was just his calves. And it was just like he was

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walking by me, you know, doing his thing, and then it was like a swoosh.

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And I was like, wow, what was that? And then I think that's the first

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time we met. And that's. That's how we got introduced to each other.

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Yeah. Yeah. I was, uh, I was walking in a gym,

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and you can. And Ali actually comes up to me and,

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um, I'm being serious. Every time I go to the gym, of course,

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and about to get mentally focused, to lift. I don't know what body part I

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was doing, but here comes Ali. I look to my right and Ali's coming with

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this look on his face. And I take my headphones out. I'm like, what's up,

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Ali? And he's like, how'd you get your cats like that? I was like,

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Ali? Like, I mean, training them, you know,

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and. But we always just had this

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natural friendship. Just, you know, talking, of course, you

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know, I asked Ali what he did for a living. He told me about his

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background in engineering and. And I told him what I did.

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You know, at the point, I think I was just obviously talking about different businesses

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I was involved in and that I was doing, of course. So we always have

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mutual respect for one. For one another and

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fast forward to how we kind of start really

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putting things together. But I don't

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recall what weight I was at at that point, but

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I know, I just remember Ali, every video that I

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posted of either a heavy lift or heavy squad or mostly

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heavy dead lils, he. He always has something crazy to say in the comments.

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And that's when, you know, the match is made in

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heaven, when you got the right commentary person, you know, accentuate in

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your life, like, there's something here. Yeah, big time. And it's like. And

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I've. And I've heard every joke, you know, I've been places

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and I've, you know, had guys, people come up to me and say,

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I don't know. I mean, we've all heard it, like, oh, how much are the

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tickets? And I'm just like, yeah. Ha ha. Yeah, the gun show, right? I know.

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But the comments I would see, you know, I'll leave with post. Sometimes I would

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read it. I would just say, oh, my gosh, it would

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be unique. So. And I was at that

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point, obviously, I was already getting to the groove with deadlifting and lifting heavy,

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of course, and I was getting

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frustrated. And surprisingly, I'll get to the store here pretty

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soon. But it was getting to a point to where anytime I would

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do some good weight. Let's

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say I remember one time I did 500 pounds, because I think before

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I recall seeing somebody did it for, like, 500 pounds for

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maybe 15 reps. And I was always the type to see something, to think, well,

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I'm going to do more. So I remember doing 495, 500

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pounds for 20 reps, and I was able to do it. But

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throughout the set, the weight was shifting,

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and I had already seen prior to list that

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I've done, catastrophe happened, because I

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don't know. I don't remember what weight it was, but I was probably doing maybe,

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like, 700 pounds for reps. And, of course, I have a couple videos on our

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Mac innovations page to where was doing the set. And

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the clamps came off. You can see the weight already loosening mid

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set. And I knew it's just a matter of time, and then obviously, the clamps

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failed in a. Weights come off, and then, you know, you're tipping each

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side of the bar, and it's. It's just like I said, it's. Don't know anything

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about it. Never. Oh, man. It was like, you just want to put the weight

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back on because you're. You're so frustrated. And I remember

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people being with me. I was like, man, put the weight fuck away. But

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it's all right. But the way back on, and I don't know, like, you

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know, and it would just ruin, obviously, the set,

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you know, from these clouds failing. And I still

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need to go back and find this person, honestly, because there was a comment,

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and it wasn't Ali. It was a comment in the comment

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section on one of my posts where the clout fell off

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and an individual said, you should just create

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your own clamps. Yes. I was

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like, wow, that. That is. That's the mother.

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It's like you're out there. You're. You're a businessman. And I do want to spend

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a day of time about talking about the trials and tribulations of

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being, you know, in business and trying to start a company. Everybody wants to focus

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on all the highs and the stories that you want to tell,

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but it ain't. It's not easy business right now.

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You can sit there as an entrepreneur trying to find that, you know, seek that

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thing, but sometimes things just come in. Yep. Right.

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I mean, well, and that's. That. That's the.

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When we talk about the success of this company, how things have grown, that's. That's

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the, like, I get goosebumps talking about it, because that's the crazy thing about it.

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So it literally struck in my head.

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And at that time, because it was that comment that I wrote that I

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read to where it was at that point, to where I was like, you know

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what? I don't know how. It wasn't even about business. It was just like,

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that's a solution. That. It's a problem. It's a problem.

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Exactly. And that's. That's a great point. A great mentor bot always

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told me, if you ever think of wanting

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to do something, what is business? Or whatever the case is, find a problem.

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When you find a solution, you're winning. Okay?

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So that's always stuck with me. Now, at that point,

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I remember I reached out to a friend of mine. He

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actually is a friend that builds, that builds my cars,

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my motors, did a lot of performance on my car. He initially

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was the first person I went to with this idea that I had in my

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head. And I went to him, I said, hey, you know, I want to build

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this clamp. Here's the problem. Here's what I needed to do

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the whole nine. And we talked about it, and we learned. Talked about

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it for maybe a week or two, and it kind of start going a little

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dead as far as that goes. And it was

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on a Friday or Thursday or Friday, like, two weeks had went

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by, and I received a

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message on Instagram, and it was good. Oh,

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Ali. I open the messes up,

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and Ali sends me a message saying, hey,

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Joe, I've been thinking. He said, I've been watching your

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videos, and I think it

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would be great if we came together and

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created the world's strongest clamp.

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And I was like, dude, I didn't tell him. I was like,

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this is crazy. I didn't tell him, but the first thing I told her

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was, let's talk about it. I said, let's meet up

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ASAP, and let's do it. And he said, okay, when you want to

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meet? I said, tomorrow. And we met at the gym, and I was on a

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Saturday. Cause it's. You must mention me on Friday. Cause we met on Saturday

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morning. So Saturday morning comes, and

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I'm thinking, obviously, you know, we're just gonna sit and talk

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about it or talk about, you know, the direction we can

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go. No, no, no, no. I remember

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sitting. I was at. We were at destination. We met at the gym.

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And Ali comes in with this folder of

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material, and you got an engineer. On your hand,

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brother. This is.

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He's ready. 100%. 100%. I was

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blown away. And, you know, I

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probably would try to play it off a little bit, but I looked at it,

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and in my head, I'm thinking, what's the white? It was detail

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after detail after detail, spec after spec after spec, design after

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design after design. And it was that

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day to where we talked. And at the end of the

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conversation, I didn't have to think about it. I stood up.

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It's meant to be talk about, oh, 100. I stood up.

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I said, let's get started. And I got

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so much more to say, so I'll let all the. Obviously, I'll. Yeah.

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Ollie, how long were you working on this project, though, before?

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So that is a. That is a good question. You

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know, I, as an engineer, I work in the oil service industry,

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and in the oil service industry, everything we do is kind of

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round. And the barbell clamp

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has been something that's been on my mind as an engineer for a while because,

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like Joe said, they fail or they do pretty good,

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and because they're made out of different materials, like rubber, they wear out.

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And so I've had that idea in my mind to make my own

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barbell clamp, but I just didn't know how to get started

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and what it should be. And after

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seeing Joe do his deadlifts and the way the

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bar was failing and the plates were falling off, it became obvious that it

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needs to be the mat clamped, you know, naturally.

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Yeah. And, you know, Joe was on his, and still is on his way to

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deadlift 1000 pounds. And that was going to

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be fist bump right there, Joe. Oh, yeah. There you go. That's it.

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And that was going to be a great match because

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he couldn't get to that thousand pounds. Cause his volume would be cut short

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from the plates falling off. And

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the clamps did make a difference in his training, and I'm sure in other

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people's training as well who've purchased a clamp.

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But back to your question is, how long have I been working on

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it? I've had the concept in my head for years. And,

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you know, as the mad scientist yourself, you come up with

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ideas and, you know, there's not enough time to write it down or

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create a prototype, but you have the vision in your head and you can see

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the clamp or the product that you want to develop, and you just needed that

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little bit of push and a little bit of connection.

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Coincidence which Joe and I had to make the next product.

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Yep. That's an interesting conversation. Cause I get hit that

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question quite a bit. Like, how long did it take from the first time you

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had the idea to product realization? I'm like, oh, that. 110

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years, six years. Like, they're like, what? Like,

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these don't happen overnight. You know, it's. They're

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ideas that generate. And sometimes,

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yeah, it takes quite a long time to percolate into

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reality. And even so, a lot of times, they're

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just solutions, at least in my world, because, you know, having a manufacturing background,

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being able to make a solution and be using it in my

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gym for years, and then go, maybe. Maybe other people

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might be interested in this. Yeah. Now, my solution for the

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weights falling off the bar, which I'm well, uh, well versed

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in, I think that's my most, uh, watched

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video ever, is a squat that just. The weights are filing, falling

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over. Although I think it saved me at the end of the day from the,

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uh, the spotter malfunction.

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But tons of you'll watch my videos with bands strapped

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around the weights and, like, all this. And my thousand pound deadlift

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bar I custom made. Like, it's a. It's a

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Texas. It was a Texas deadlift bar center. And then

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I extended the sleeves so that I would have more

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working here. Yeah. So I have, you know, a singular

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custom bar that I used in the training program for that

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because of. Because of this problem. Wow. That's insane.

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All right, guys, we talk a lot about mental resilience on this podcast,

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but let's talk about another type of resilience. That's movement

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the end of every day. They also have these textured recovery

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socks that feel like a mini massage when you walk around. If

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And that's crazy that, like you said, we're talking about that.

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So it's like, now we'll shift it to chapter

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two. And chapter two

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is the creation of the Matt clamp, which is also

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another cool story. So I'll kind of

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give a little bit of history, not much, but in regards to how I am

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personally, even on a personal level and a business level. And Ali,

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obviously, fortunately and not so unfortunately,

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has seen in regards to how a, when it comes to

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business and, you know, but business pertains to like,

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life in general. Like, no excuses, like, don't talk about

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it, you know, if you say you're gonna do it, commit, do it, you know,

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the whole, all those, the, let's. Spend a little time with that.

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Absolutely. You know, this is, this is,

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you know, value is really in some of these aside discussions. I

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mean, want to tell the story of Mackie, I don't want to interrupt you on

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that, but I'm interested in your

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background in becoming an IFBB

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pro and the level of what do you

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look at the discipline, the things as it relates to what

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you've learned in the gym and how to overcome

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the struggles, the challenges and how do you face a non

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standard environment. So you've got a very

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regimented, disciplined approach which also creates

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behaviors and training, but a very non regimented

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life if you're actually starting businesses on the side instead of

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being, you know, somebody that's trying to get endorsements and

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cover enough so that they can focus solely on training. Very different. Yep.

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So I'm really interested because I had a, you know, similar

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experiences in my profession. Like

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I was chasing, trying to be the strongest in the world and everyone else was

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a, you know, an athlete, a gym owner, maybe some

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training and I was out there like with a

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family, full professional career, and it was just like, there's nobody

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yeah. Out there. So tell, tell me about that story.

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It goes pretty deep actually, and super deep actually. And

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I'll even try not to get too emotional about it, but cuz I'll have you

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seen this side. But it's, it's very deep because it's

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coming up on a certain month date as far as it goes.

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But at one point in my life, kind of like we said, I was

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bodybuilding, bodybuilding, bodybuilding and spending my

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last dollar to, you know, get my meals

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in, pay for a registration and thinking, you

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know, cuz I started off in regards to

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bodybuilding being good, you know, doing

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a local show as an office, winning and

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you know, thinking that I was just gonna win every show after

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that. And I remember winning one show and

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then went to the next show and won another show. And then I went to

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nationals thinking I was gonna go pro and I was gonna get this contract and

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this and this, this, this and I lost.

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Yeah. All you gotta do is you just get to that pro card time. Life's

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made, all works out, right. You just hit that milestone.

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Not at all. And that's even a talk I even have with

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individuals. Cause I mentor, you know, obviously I do a

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little bit of coaching when it comes to people's health, lifestyle training, if the person

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wants to compete, of course. And the only way I know how to

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be is genuine and just open in regards to, you know, what

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I did and what I like to preach and show and when

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I discuss in regards to like, yeah, going. Pursuing

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bodybuilding is a great goal and it's something that you can apply when it comes

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to everyday life and, but it's like also have

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other, you know, for, make sure you could afford it, you know, because

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I did it the other way at one point to where I did bodybuilder,

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bodybuilder bodybuilding, and I went broke and that didn't

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obviously work out so well. But as far as this, the

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ethic in regards to how this mentality and this drive

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and this force and his willpower came, it's,

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it's, it's, it comes from a very deep place. Uh, you know,

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my parents have been together for over 50 years. My mom and dad are still

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alive. My dad was military. He always raised us, my

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brother and I, which is two years older, to lift weights,

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eat protein and all of the above. It just

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wasn't in me when I was young, you know, it just, um,

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it really start to grow on me, honestly. Until I went to college

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and then I got more involved, of course. And I remember going

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from college from 180 pounds, and I

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just wanted to be over 200 pounds at that point. So I just remember eating,

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eating, eating, and I went from 180 to 240 pounds,

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naturally. And I, I was, I liked

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it, of course. And, you know, so working out at that point just kind of

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grew on me. Now, coming home after college,

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same thing. I was eating, I was training, you know,

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started a couple things or two. I went from 240, then I got over to

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the 300 pound plus at that point. I remember being like 19 years

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old at that point. And people thought I was pro back then because I was

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just a big 300 plus guy. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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at a young age and very strong even at that point.

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And so I was always known back then for being a big

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guy. I would go to the competitions and, you know, I walk in, of course.

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I just like being known as Big Joe. That's what people called me.

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And quick question. Did you have those big caps back then,

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too? I did not. I remember one of my. I called

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my mentor, a good friend of mine. It's crazy. Cause I just meant one year,

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my cabs just blew up.

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Like, I remember training them all the time, and, like, three months went by. Nothing.

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Six months went by, and literally, it just seems like I woke up one day

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and it was like, oh, like. And that set yesterday really worked.

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They're there. And I remember the first. I noticed it then. You know, you're

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really officials. Like, when someone says, how'd you get your calves like that? That was

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like, oh, they are big. So. So, honestly,

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I trained cash religiously all the time. At one point,

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they didn't grow on a week by week basis, and that's honest

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truth. It just seems like one day I hit a growth spurt and they in

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a group, so, yeah, I'll take it. So.

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And overall, when it comes

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to this. This place,

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I was in a relationship. Of course. We had a child, a

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baby boy. He was born with a heart condition. He was born with hypoplastic left

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heart syndrome. The day after he was born,

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I remember going to the store to pick up a car

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seat, and I remember getting a call from my lady at the time, and

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she was crying, and I was like, what's wrong? She told me,

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he has a heart condition, and he is going to need open heart surgery.

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So I'm shocked, of course. I rushed back to the hospital. We have a talk

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with the surgeon, and they did heart

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surgery on them the next day. Everything went smooth.

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Hypoplastic left heart syndrome, you know, if you look it up, it'll show

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that you need surgery when the baby is born,

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because the heart, the left ventricle doesn't develop all the

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way. So they had to go in and create this system, and

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it's. It's not common, but it's not rare neither. So

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he recovered. They had to do another.

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Any person with this condition, you have to do another surgery at three months

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and then another one at three years old. So. And I

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might have got that wrong. It might be five months. But he had his second

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surgery. He did well, made a full recovery.

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Months later, I get a call from my

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lady at the time that, you know, just. Something

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seems off. So we take him into the hospital, of course, and then, sure enough,

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he caught an infection. And it should have been something

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mild, but his body was really

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fighting one thing, and it would beat this, and then something else would come. His

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body was kind of fighting the surgery in other words. So,

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basically, long story short, I won't go into too much detail, but I saw my

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son in a hospital from seven months to

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ten months that he passed away. So when that

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happened, the things that I remember,

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you know, which is why I'm so. I think I'll lead

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those this. But I've never gone into detail, but this is kind of

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specific in regards to, like, when people have come to me, ask me to do

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a document, these. These are some of the things that, of course, I want the

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audience to know because, you know, this is why

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I am at that point to where sometimes I don't like

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excuses, I don't like

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people that talk. I don't. I don't like complainers, I don't

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like, you know, whiners. And it goes to a deeper

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place, which means me

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personally, obviously, I saw my son

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fighting, right? I saw him as a little baby

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fighting, fighting every day of his life. And. And

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he didn't have a choice on him

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passing away, you know, obviously, you know, I'm a man of God. My faith decided,

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of course, you know, God wanted him up there with him. But

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I saw my son. I saw his power. I saw his strength. I

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saw everything that he went through. And I

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saw, like, even when they had to do a surgery on him again,

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I, at that point, was just like, man, they, they are like, they're

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like, they're, like, tearing him up. They're cutting him up. And I would see him

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recover. And I was still coming there a week or two

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later. I would see my son every day. But I was. Once he fully recovers,

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and I see a smile on his face, he's still smiling because it's just like,

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man, he's, he's still, he's still fighting. So

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when I hear someone, you know, talk about,

452
00:27:26,314 --> 00:27:29,994
and here's the thing, mental health, it's a real

453
00:27:30,034 --> 00:27:33,594
deal. Depression is a real deal. Of course, I

454
00:27:33,634 --> 00:27:37,250
always. I'm a great listener, right. You know, and these things that

455
00:27:37,282 --> 00:27:40,442
happen, things, bad things happen in all of our lives,

456
00:27:40,498 --> 00:27:44,058
right? And the way I describe these things is

457
00:27:44,106 --> 00:27:47,866
like, you know, you have a choice in regards

458
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:51,442
to when these things take place. You can either go

459
00:27:51,498 --> 00:27:55,254
left or you can go right. Left is chaos,

460
00:27:56,754 --> 00:27:59,890
you know, dark place. It happens. I temporarily went there

461
00:28:00,002 --> 00:28:03,850
right when that happened, I got in trouble. I

462
00:28:03,922 --> 00:28:07,730
was looking for trouble. I would go out. I

463
00:28:07,762 --> 00:28:11,146
would go to bars, I would go to clubs. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

464
00:28:11,170 --> 00:28:14,934
look for trouble, but I would. I would welcome it. Which means

465
00:28:15,354 --> 00:28:19,170
if someone says something or did something, it's like, okay,

466
00:28:19,282 --> 00:28:22,854
now I get to, you know, take it out on this

467
00:28:22,894 --> 00:28:26,126
person or whatever the case is. And that got me in trouble. That got me

468
00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:29,918
in jail a couple nights from being in fights, beating people

469
00:28:29,966 --> 00:28:33,438
up. And I remember one time I was in jail from being someone

470
00:28:33,486 --> 00:28:36,846
else. And I just remember reflecting and

471
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:40,582
thinking, like, my son wouldn't be happy with what

472
00:28:40,638 --> 00:28:44,114
I'm doing. And it was at that point.

473
00:28:44,974 --> 00:28:48,334
And here's the deal. I remember the lady I was with at the time.

474
00:28:49,434 --> 00:28:52,894
It's so many things that took place back then after that happened.

475
00:28:54,754 --> 00:28:58,374
I've always said this because it's like, I've been in situations to where

476
00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:02,642
I've had someone, you know, try to rob me, pull a gun on me.

477
00:29:02,778 --> 00:29:06,602
I've had situations to where I see, I

478
00:29:06,618 --> 00:29:10,354
say this, I should either be dead or in prison. Okay, seriously.

479
00:29:10,514 --> 00:29:14,166
And I remember her being with me at that

480
00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:17,910
point. And she was around a lot of things back then, and

481
00:29:17,942 --> 00:29:21,598
she would always say, you're the luckiest person I know.

482
00:29:21,766 --> 00:29:25,566
Like, you're like, the stuff I've seen with you. She was like, you're just

483
00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:28,782
lucky. And things would happen to him. Just like, man, I was scratching my head

484
00:29:28,798 --> 00:29:32,286
and think, how. How is that, like, why didn't that

485
00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:36,246
happen? Or how am I still here? And. And I

486
00:29:36,270 --> 00:29:40,112
said, it's a bigger story. December 17 is when

487
00:29:40,128 --> 00:29:43,824
he passed away. So obviously December, the day is coming up. I haven't told.

488
00:29:43,864 --> 00:29:47,640
I'll leave this as far as it goes, but I'm saying this because it's

489
00:29:47,672 --> 00:29:51,232
like, every year. And, you know, even though this happened in

490
00:29:51,248 --> 00:29:55,072
2010, it doesn't necessarily get any easier. But

491
00:29:55,208 --> 00:29:58,928
this is also when I turn it on more. This is when

492
00:29:58,976 --> 00:30:02,816
I, I usually break prs. This is usually when

493
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,774
business and exceeds even more.

494
00:30:06,714 --> 00:30:10,530
It's when for sure, if someone is like, I'm

495
00:30:10,562 --> 00:30:14,106
tired or this, this, like, I

496
00:30:14,130 --> 00:30:17,882
can't, I can't be around that. But it's also, I'm also very selective in

497
00:30:17,898 --> 00:30:21,506
regards to the group and people I surround myself

498
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:25,298
with that are, you know, like this. Like, we all have things that happen in

499
00:30:25,306 --> 00:30:27,610
our life. And that's why I say at the end of the day, it's. It's

500
00:30:27,642 --> 00:30:31,470
based off of how we, we handle those things that take place.

501
00:30:31,622 --> 00:30:35,374
And, you know, at the end of the day, it's.

502
00:30:35,414 --> 00:30:39,046
I feel like, you know, it's okay to be down. You're going to get kicked

503
00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:41,798
down a couple times. And I know Rocky has a saying, but it's like, what's

504
00:30:41,806 --> 00:30:44,342
the saying? It's not. I mean, help me out, guys. It's not how hard you

505
00:30:44,358 --> 00:30:48,110
get kicked. It's about basically stand down. I don't know the word for word,

506
00:30:48,142 --> 00:30:51,006
but it's like, I 100% agree with that because it's like you're going to get

507
00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:54,806
kicked, it's going to hurt. And it's honestly your choice. You decide

508
00:30:54,830 --> 00:30:58,342
to stay down or use it and get your ass back up and go. So,

509
00:30:58,478 --> 00:31:01,902
yeah, thank you for sharing that. That's a really powerful story.

510
00:31:01,998 --> 00:31:05,154
Absolutely. My takeaways from that

511
00:31:05,734 --> 00:31:09,558
are, you know, just acknowledgement of there's things outside

512
00:31:09,606 --> 00:31:13,414
of our control, there's things that happen to us and. Or

513
00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:17,174
those around us, and trying to hide

514
00:31:17,214 --> 00:31:20,630
from those and run from those doesn't work. You know, we, you know,

515
00:31:20,662 --> 00:31:24,350
accepting that. But at the same time, that doesn't mean that you

516
00:31:24,382 --> 00:31:27,814
can't be positive, hey, my son is

517
00:31:27,854 --> 00:31:30,074
dying, or maybe myself,

518
00:31:31,054 --> 00:31:34,590
and being able to go, I'm thankful and

519
00:31:34,622 --> 00:31:38,014
grateful, though, of where I'm at now and what I can have from this

520
00:31:38,054 --> 00:31:41,750
opportunity, because I still have the beauty of being able to see

521
00:31:41,782 --> 00:31:45,558
him smile when he's in that bed. To be able

522
00:31:45,606 --> 00:31:48,634
to have that moment and understand,

523
00:31:49,344 --> 00:31:52,792
even though your short time with him, you know, was ten

524
00:31:52,848 --> 00:31:56,672
months, is to have that

525
00:31:56,848 --> 00:32:00,648
in your life so that you are focused on

526
00:32:00,696 --> 00:32:04,324
more important things and the smaller minutiae of things that were in there before.

527
00:32:04,624 --> 00:32:08,368
You understand that. And I felt that depth in our first

528
00:32:08,416 --> 00:32:12,080
conversations and why, you know, our relationship has

529
00:32:12,112 --> 00:32:15,956
moved as fast as just how straightforward you

530
00:32:15,980 --> 00:32:19,484
are. Like, no nonsense. Here's where we're at. And I reciprocate

531
00:32:19,524 --> 00:32:22,780
because I've got similar. Similar

532
00:32:22,852 --> 00:32:26,676
philosophy and approach and experiences. There's one thing I always say, not to cut

533
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,236
you off, Chris, but it's like you. I feel like you'd always look in a

534
00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:33,908
person's eyes, even though we haven't met in person until now. But I thought, I'll

535
00:32:33,916 --> 00:32:37,692
leave this. I said, he's got that, you know, look in his eyes and.

536
00:32:37,868 --> 00:32:41,636
And I have. I have developed great relationships. I haven't been looking at your caps

537
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:42,384
that way.

538
00:32:45,384 --> 00:32:49,084
But, you know, it just. It just goes regardless of where it's like,

539
00:32:50,104 --> 00:32:53,872
similar instincts usually tend to bond, you

540
00:32:53,888 --> 00:32:57,688
know, together as far as that goes. And. And I really respect

541
00:32:57,736 --> 00:33:01,544
that as well, too. Yeah. So, yeah, that's what I took from that.

542
00:33:01,584 --> 00:33:05,256
And thank you for sharing. And I got another calf story to lighten it

543
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,928
up. So this is. This is when I knew I had good calves.

544
00:33:08,976 --> 00:33:12,756
Yep. I'm in Australia and we've got all the best of the best from

545
00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:16,532
around the world there competing. And I'm warming up.

546
00:33:16,588 --> 00:33:20,060
Dan Green's warming up. Eddie Cohn's warming up. Zaheer's warming

547
00:33:20,092 --> 00:33:23,836
up. We're all there in the same area, and Dan looks over

548
00:33:23,860 --> 00:33:27,104
at me and he's like, dang, what do you do in your training

549
00:33:27,604 --> 00:33:31,180
to get calves that big? I can see

550
00:33:31,212 --> 00:33:34,504
Eddie stop, Ed, cone stop. And he's listening, too.

551
00:33:34,844 --> 00:33:38,184
And I'm like, shit, I'm going to remember this moment.

552
00:33:39,204 --> 00:33:43,052
I got Dan Green ask me about my calves and Ed Cohn listening in. I'm

553
00:33:43,068 --> 00:33:46,332
like, absolutely. That's a moment. Absolutely. That's crazy, because

554
00:33:46,348 --> 00:33:49,852
it's. I remember when the first time Dan Green reached out,

555
00:33:49,988 --> 00:33:53,812
and it's freaking Dan Green, you know? Yeah. And, you

556
00:33:53,828 --> 00:33:57,356
know, coming into this industry as well, too, and, and seeing

557
00:33:57,460 --> 00:34:01,172
Ed Cohn reach out, and I was just like, man, not in a

558
00:34:01,188 --> 00:34:04,900
million years. And, you know, that's a whole another

559
00:34:05,052 --> 00:34:08,116
topic as far as it goes. But it's like, man, having

560
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:11,728
conversations, you know, that's even probably another subject we're going to talk about in regards

561
00:34:11,776 --> 00:34:15,000
to generation. Like, I was raised in this generation to where it's

562
00:34:15,032 --> 00:34:18,720
like, I respect the ones that have been there and done it.

563
00:34:18,832 --> 00:34:21,656
You know, even on the bodybuilding side, I remember being young and trying to rush

564
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,168
to the gym to meet Johnny Jackson and Branch Warren. And if I saw

565
00:34:25,216 --> 00:34:28,936
them, and I did at one point, I would just stand back and just, you

566
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,992
know, watch and wait for the perfect time. And

567
00:34:32,048 --> 00:34:35,816
obviously, you know, respect. Yes, sir. No, sir.

568
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,701
Excuse me, sir. You know, I didn't walk up with hey, bro, or, you

569
00:34:39,717 --> 00:34:43,501
know, like, I'm just some, these, some Thomas'generation, really just

570
00:34:43,557 --> 00:34:46,933
kind of makes me shake my head a little bit, of course. But it's like

571
00:34:47,013 --> 00:34:50,645
there was just, you know, my dad always taught me

572
00:34:50,749 --> 00:34:54,541
growing up as a kid to obviously, and it was a natural thing for

573
00:34:54,557 --> 00:34:58,373
me to do to show respect to the people who have been there.

574
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:01,437
And I'm still like that now to this day. Even coming up on this power

575
00:35:01,485 --> 00:35:05,245
side with doing these lifts that I've done, like, when

576
00:35:05,269 --> 00:35:08,912
I've had contact with these people,

577
00:35:09,088 --> 00:35:12,872
Ed Cohen, Dan Green, you know, Silverman with CT, reached out. It was

578
00:35:12,888 --> 00:35:16,600
just like, man, like, it's, I don't care how

579
00:35:16,632 --> 00:35:20,264
good I am in something or how popular I am or known,

580
00:35:20,424 --> 00:35:23,168
like, and there's still a couple on my list where I'm waiting for him to

581
00:35:23,176 --> 00:35:26,824
reach out to. So then it's like. But at the same time, when

582
00:35:26,864 --> 00:35:30,312
I meet or talk to them as well, too. It's like, you know, I'm not.

583
00:35:30,368 --> 00:35:34,122
It's not, you know, this is not about being, like, starstruck, but it's just.

584
00:35:34,178 --> 00:35:38,026
It's just a level of respect to where it's like, man, like, this is

585
00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:41,890
cool. Like, thank you. And so that's cool that you mentioned those guys,

586
00:35:41,922 --> 00:35:44,938
for sure. Cause I've always had huge amount of space for you guys, for you

587
00:35:44,946 --> 00:35:48,538
guys have been there and done it, so it's pretty awesome. Yeah. It's something

588
00:35:48,586 --> 00:35:51,694
I've definitely enjoyed after being in the sport for a while, is

589
00:35:52,234 --> 00:35:55,362
getting to meet the people that I have and the people that really stick with

590
00:35:55,378 --> 00:35:58,978
it in the long term, there's a lot of churn of newer people. The next

591
00:35:59,026 --> 00:36:02,688
hot thing, the next, next, next, next, next. Oh, they're gonna be. But

592
00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:05,740
so many people come in and out, and they don't have the longevity of

593
00:36:05,772 --> 00:36:09,516
understanding. This is not an instant gratification. You can blow up

594
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:13,384
big, you can start lifting big. But to be in this game long term,

595
00:36:13,884 --> 00:36:17,636
it's decades. It's decades. And

596
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:20,652
that's where I think that there's a lot to learn. And unfortunately, I think a

597
00:36:20,668 --> 00:36:24,140
lot of people don't learn in the

598
00:36:24,172 --> 00:36:27,764
gym. They learn in the gym, but they don't learn how to

599
00:36:27,804 --> 00:36:30,900
apply that outside. And that's why I was interested in having our

600
00:36:30,932 --> 00:36:33,664
conversation. And also, at the same time,

601
00:36:34,444 --> 00:36:38,156
watching you work with Ollie, who's incredibly skilled.

602
00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:41,812
I've seen his work. But in this space

603
00:36:41,868 --> 00:36:45,188
of being, moving from

604
00:36:45,316 --> 00:36:48,788
engineering to entrepreneur and business

605
00:36:48,876 --> 00:36:52,428
and how that experience has been for you, Ollie, as well

606
00:36:52,436 --> 00:36:56,140
as what you've been able to learn from

607
00:36:56,172 --> 00:36:59,924
Joe over the course of this. Yeah, pretty

608
00:36:59,964 --> 00:37:03,382
interesting. You know, you said learning from Joe.

609
00:37:03,518 --> 00:37:07,230
There's a joke that I've made about Joe, and

610
00:37:07,262 --> 00:37:10,554
it's the. You know, it's kind of a joke. And

611
00:37:11,574 --> 00:37:15,190
I've seen him do his thing. You know, we've. Since we've created the clamp, we've

612
00:37:15,222 --> 00:37:18,438
gone to different people, different investors, different

613
00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:22,150
manufacturers. And somehow, when Joe

614
00:37:22,182 --> 00:37:25,982
gets ahold of something

615
00:37:26,158 --> 00:37:29,558
and he focuses on it, you know, and he talked about what his drive

616
00:37:29,606 --> 00:37:33,430
is, which I didn't know, which makes a lot of sense

617
00:37:33,462 --> 00:37:36,718
now. And so when Joe gets ahold of something and that drive that he puts

618
00:37:36,766 --> 00:37:39,754
into it, I call that the Joe magic.

619
00:37:40,654 --> 00:37:44,166
It's the Joe because it is like Matt, because, you know, I'm an

620
00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:47,846
engineer, right? We are people who go to school, and then

621
00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:51,574
they. We go into a cubicle, into an office, and we get really, really good

622
00:37:51,614 --> 00:37:55,198
at designing and doing little things, and we are in our bubble,

623
00:37:55,326 --> 00:37:59,018
and to come out you. Yeah, working outside of that zone is really

624
00:37:59,106 --> 00:38:02,778
challenging for a lot of engineers. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah. And, you

625
00:38:02,786 --> 00:38:06,602
know, Joel testify to that because he is always on, because,

626
00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:10,306
you know, he's a businessman. Right. And the easiest part about the Matt

627
00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:14,002
clamps was the designing of it for me. Right. And

628
00:38:14,138 --> 00:38:17,146
like any other business, the hardest part is getting your product out there and selling

629
00:38:17,170 --> 00:38:21,018
it. And that's why we partner up with Joe Mackey. Right. And we're trying to

630
00:38:21,026 --> 00:38:24,722
get some of that Joe magic on the Matt clowns. And, you know, honestly,

631
00:38:24,738 --> 00:38:28,378
we've been on a rocket ship. The product has been launched for

632
00:38:28,426 --> 00:38:32,026
five months now. It's only been five months. And we're making huge

633
00:38:32,090 --> 00:38:35,498
strides. And that is thanks to, of course, the design itself

634
00:38:35,626 --> 00:38:39,130
is robust. You know, without a doubt, it is the world's strongest

635
00:38:39,162 --> 00:38:42,882
barbell clamp there. We got it up on the site right now or

636
00:38:42,898 --> 00:38:46,642
on page. Yeah, this is our Christmas version. You know,

637
00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:50,414
we've christmased it up for the. For the spirit. I love it.

638
00:38:50,854 --> 00:38:54,630
That looks like some high quality production you've gone

639
00:38:54,662 --> 00:38:58,462
on there. Mighty impressed. Yeah. We have a guy named Mustafa out of

640
00:38:58,478 --> 00:39:02,118
Dallas, and he's our go to guy when it comes to creating quality

641
00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:05,422
content. And. Thank you. I appreciate it. There's a lot of work. I make the

642
00:39:05,438 --> 00:39:09,246
website myself. I'm the technical guy. Right. And so

643
00:39:09,350 --> 00:39:13,062
the clamp itself, being exceptional is one thing, but getting it out to

644
00:39:13,078 --> 00:39:16,606
the world, that's where you need the Joe magic, like I was saying. And that's,

645
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:20,486
you know, Joe. Joe brought that to the table and killed it,

646
00:39:20,510 --> 00:39:24,230
honestly. Right. So this is why we're good partners, because I take

647
00:39:24,262 --> 00:39:27,606
a. Take care of technical side and he takes care of everything else that needs

648
00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:31,390
to be done, aka the business side. Yeah. What's

649
00:39:31,422 --> 00:39:34,958
been scary in that process for you? Tell me about some

650
00:39:35,006 --> 00:39:38,806
moments where you've been like, I don't know, I'm

651
00:39:38,830 --> 00:39:41,354
not ready for this. Like, I'm a little. I'm a little scared.

652
00:39:44,594 --> 00:39:47,834
I'll answer that. They'll let you answer and feed off of.

653
00:39:47,874 --> 00:39:51,706
But it's when we had the

654
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:54,946
clamp design, the first model, which at that point had

655
00:39:55,010 --> 00:39:58,738
three mechanisms. Right. And it had a

656
00:39:58,786 --> 00:40:02,546
different set of contact patches. And we tested it.

657
00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:06,378
We did a lot of testing on this clamp to get it where it is

658
00:40:06,426 --> 00:40:10,196
right now. And we tested it one day at the

659
00:40:10,220 --> 00:40:13,964
gym and it failed. And

660
00:40:14,004 --> 00:40:17,812
I was not happy because it was probably less than a

661
00:40:17,828 --> 00:40:20,784
week away when I had to go live with Larry wheels

662
00:40:21,524 --> 00:40:25,100
and I wanted to clamp there with me and

663
00:40:25,132 --> 00:40:28,676
Larry to obviously. Show Larry that'd be some good hype

664
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:32,064
material. Yes. Yeah. The hype machine of. He's got a follow. Yeah.

665
00:40:32,724 --> 00:40:36,530
You want that 100%. This is a moment. Yeah. We want to own

666
00:40:36,562 --> 00:40:40,226
this. Oh, 100%. And we tested it out

667
00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:43,650
literally days, maybe a week before I was headed out there to LA.

668
00:40:43,762 --> 00:40:47,578
And the clamp failed with a

669
00:40:47,626 --> 00:40:51,290
test that we did. Was not happy. Ali knew it.

670
00:40:51,442 --> 00:40:55,026
And I asked Ali, I said why? Why did it

671
00:40:55,050 --> 00:40:58,682
fail? And I'll see. Like I say, it's very technical.

672
00:40:58,858 --> 00:41:01,936
Engineering of course starts giving me the

673
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,688
breakdown and you know, specs and this and this

674
00:41:05,856 --> 00:41:08,804
and the percentage ratio, the whole nine.

675
00:41:09,144 --> 00:41:12,976
And you know, the, the degree of

676
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,604
freedom, all of this. And it's basically to where I'm asking Ali,

677
00:41:18,584 --> 00:41:22,416
why is the clamp failings? What I want to know. And he's like well it's

678
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,964
possibility that it might be the bar or it might be this.

679
00:41:26,324 --> 00:41:29,460
And I was upset and I was like I won't say exactly what I said,

680
00:41:29,492 --> 00:41:32,524
but obviously I have always treated Ali with respect. But he knows if I start

681
00:41:32,564 --> 00:41:35,876
cursing, you know, I'm not mad at him, just the

682
00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:39,340
principal. And it was basically at a point to where it's like this

683
00:41:39,372 --> 00:41:42,780
is not acceptable. We're not going to take a product

684
00:41:42,972 --> 00:41:45,944
and put it into the market of it possibly

685
00:41:46,404 --> 00:41:50,236
being the best or possibly holding up to what it's supposed to

686
00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:53,348
do. And I said go back. Like we got to go back and fix it.

687
00:41:53,356 --> 00:41:56,950
It's not going to work. And he

688
00:41:57,062 --> 00:42:00,878
either that day or the next day called me and we, he

689
00:42:00,926 --> 00:42:04,614
created a solution and we brought it back to the gym

690
00:42:04,694 --> 00:42:08,486
and it was stupid straw. Yeah. Is that

691
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:12,150
the current clamping force? That is like. Yes. How many, how many

692
00:42:12,182 --> 00:42:15,830
times over the, you know, the

693
00:42:15,982 --> 00:42:19,474
top clamping force in. The industry, it is

694
00:42:20,044 --> 00:42:23,796
twice as strong as the IWF

695
00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:27,556
competition collars. And those are the 2.5 kg that you

696
00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:31,424
seen in competition. Now ours of course is exactly one pound

697
00:42:31,724 --> 00:42:35,444
and it's twice as strong. The holding

698
00:42:35,484 --> 00:42:39,180
force. And by holding force I mean how much force does it

699
00:42:39,212 --> 00:42:42,996
take to make the clamp slide? The one we've

700
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:47,020
tested, you know, we've, we've not just done calculations, we've actually done physical testing

701
00:42:47,052 --> 00:42:49,910
to back up our claims. It's between

702
00:42:49,982 --> 00:42:53,694
2500 and 2800 pounds depending

703
00:42:53,734 --> 00:42:57,558
on how hard you can tighten it. And that

704
00:42:57,606 --> 00:43:01,206
is like I said, twice as strong as second

705
00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:05,086
best. And we've actually, we haven't published this, but we've tested all the

706
00:43:05,110 --> 00:43:08,846
clamps that were on the market, and on average, these clamps

707
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:12,294
can hold between 406 hundred pounds. Some of the big

708
00:43:12,334 --> 00:43:15,686
names that we're not going to mention here, that's how much they

709
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:19,402
hold. And unfortunately, those are temporary as well. Like car tires made out of

710
00:43:19,418 --> 00:43:23,010
rubber. Rubber needs to be replaced. So when Joe says, nobody

711
00:43:23,042 --> 00:43:26,826
talks about the repairable, and there is no, they don't give you

712
00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:30,794
or even tell you how to do. Like, it's, it's a replacement item.

713
00:43:30,914 --> 00:43:34,602
Like, there's wearable components. Right. And a lot of the clamps. Correct? Correct.

714
00:43:34,658 --> 00:43:38,442
And that is one thing we took advantage of. Detects.

715
00:43:38,538 --> 00:43:42,130
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716
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717
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718
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724
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725
00:44:15,138 --> 00:44:18,698
a good point that these clamps are supposed to be a reusable

726
00:44:18,746 --> 00:44:22,362
item. Right. And these companies who make these clamps take advantage of that because it

727
00:44:22,378 --> 00:44:26,106
gets them reoccurring sales, and we wanted to put an end to

728
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:29,654
that. And this is why you guys can see here on the screen

729
00:44:30,074 --> 00:44:33,690
the serviceable design section that's on our website as well.

730
00:44:33,802 --> 00:44:37,226
And in the top, you can see the contact patches, which are those

731
00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:41,066
three black squares. That's what makes contact with the barbell. And

732
00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:44,862
you can replace and remove those when they wear out.

733
00:44:44,958 --> 00:44:47,766
You just take that ring out, that silver ring. You don't need a special tool

734
00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:51,366
for it, just a screwdriver. And that is something that

735
00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:55,094
we created to enhance the lifting community in terms

736
00:44:55,134 --> 00:44:58,474
of a product that we've developed. Yeah. And so

737
00:44:58,774 --> 00:45:02,494
that style of that hardened bite material like that is the same

738
00:45:02,534 --> 00:45:06,246
one used in machining applications where you're putting, I mean,

739
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:09,830
incredible forces of these machine tools to machine

740
00:45:09,982 --> 00:45:13,714
titanium and aluminum, where you're clamping that into

741
00:45:15,374 --> 00:45:19,166
giant multimillion dollar machines that are grabbing pieces of material, can

742
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:22,166
flow it. It looks like a little piece of material, but I know the design

743
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:26,070
on what's here, and I've seen your designs with the hardness specs,

744
00:45:26,102 --> 00:45:29,854
and the bite is like this mighty bite style that is

745
00:45:29,894 --> 00:45:33,662
being used in those industrial applications. That is freaking

746
00:45:33,718 --> 00:45:37,462
insane. Strong people don't know just what that is. And

747
00:45:37,478 --> 00:45:41,262
so I feel I need to point that out. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for pointing it

748
00:45:41,278 --> 00:45:45,078
out. And, you know, that's exactly what the mat clamps are. The Mac clamps are

749
00:45:45,126 --> 00:45:48,942
taking advantage of some of the standards in the industry that already

750
00:45:48,998 --> 00:45:52,814
exist and bringing them into the lifting community so

751
00:45:52,854 --> 00:45:56,630
we can have higher quality training. And essentially, that's been the goal. Yeah, the interface,

752
00:45:56,702 --> 00:46:00,398
I mean, that is literally like 75 years ahead of what other people

753
00:46:00,446 --> 00:46:04,230
are using. Yeah. You know, the first

754
00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:07,990
time we made the mat clamps, we felt like we've done something

755
00:46:08,062 --> 00:46:11,796
here, and it was great. And I kind of want to bring up the thing

756
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:15,468
we tried in the mad scientist lab, that. Yeah.

757
00:46:15,516 --> 00:46:18,504
Because that is also 75 years ahead

758
00:46:19,204 --> 00:46:21,824
of its time. Tell us about that, if you can.

759
00:46:23,004 --> 00:46:26,024
Yeah, so I had to put

760
00:46:26,684 --> 00:46:30,356
Joe and Ollie through the paces. Well, actually, we're just touring the science lab, you

761
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:33,892
know, because why not? And they're like, what is that thing with some wood on

762
00:46:33,908 --> 00:46:37,372
it? I'm like, well, that's the newest version of the transformer bar that's taken it

763
00:46:37,388 --> 00:46:38,984
to another level. So

764
00:46:40,834 --> 00:46:44,434
Ollie had goosebumps. He's like, I can't load my back.

765
00:46:44,474 --> 00:46:47,978
Squat heavy because of back, you know, pump pain

766
00:46:48,026 --> 00:46:51,866
problems. Can't train it that often. I'm like, here, here, try this out. Let me

767
00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:55,442
set it on this setting. And so anybody that has a current

768
00:46:55,538 --> 00:46:58,334
transformer bar, we're going to have some components that.

769
00:46:59,234 --> 00:47:02,682
That you can upgrade back to this version. It's going to be so you can

770
00:47:02,698 --> 00:47:06,458
get some of the same effects. So it's backwards compatible. Some of

771
00:47:06,466 --> 00:47:10,192
the features like what you experienced. But there's also the

772
00:47:10,208 --> 00:47:13,928
bar design itself has some innovative changes. So, yeah, it's for our audience.

773
00:47:13,976 --> 00:47:17,312
If you're not familiar with the transformer bar, we're able to manipulate spinal

774
00:47:17,368 --> 00:47:21,136
mechanics and change how we load the muscles and tissues and

775
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,744
joints and allow you to be able to train a lot

776
00:47:24,784 --> 00:47:28,360
more frequently with more volume and

777
00:47:28,552 --> 00:47:32,400
the squatting on the new version, you have absolutely everybody

778
00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:36,202
I've had. I mean, just beautiful squats. We'll have to. I know

779
00:47:36,218 --> 00:47:39,778
you'll be sharing on social media, like, the pictures and videos we took, because

780
00:47:39,906 --> 00:47:42,694
you're asked to fucking grasp with perfect position

781
00:47:43,274 --> 00:47:46,946
and, yeah, go ahead and tell about, like, what you guys were feeling, because

782
00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:50,586
that's interesting. Yeah. And, you know, obviously

783
00:47:50,770 --> 00:47:54,258
I'm an Olympic weightlifter, right? I do snatches and clean and jerks. And

784
00:47:54,306 --> 00:47:57,922
to supplement those. Thanks, Joe. Yeah, to supplement those, we

785
00:47:57,938 --> 00:48:01,730
do squats as to grass squats. And that is the best way to

786
00:48:01,762 --> 00:48:05,450
get specific strength in those positions. And I have

787
00:48:05,482 --> 00:48:09,202
extremely long femurs, which is uncommon for Olympic lifter.

788
00:48:09,298 --> 00:48:12,666
My femurs are longer than my torso. So you could imagine that most of the

789
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:16,018
squats I do are good morning squats by nature. And I have

790
00:48:16,066 --> 00:48:19,826
tried. That is. Yeah, that's how the, that's how that

791
00:48:19,850 --> 00:48:22,762
works. Based on your femur and torso length. I mean, you can see it in

792
00:48:22,778 --> 00:48:25,938
the chair you're at right now, right? Yeah, it's. It makes me a really fast

793
00:48:25,986 --> 00:48:29,538
runner, but a terrible squatter. Yes. And I've tried

794
00:48:29,586 --> 00:48:33,034
these bars before that, you know, shift the center of gravity,

795
00:48:33,114 --> 00:48:36,802
but after trying that one that you showed me, and, you know, it

796
00:48:36,818 --> 00:48:40,554
didn't work for me. It just was too uncomfortable. It didn't make any sense. Now,

797
00:48:40,594 --> 00:48:44,194
after the bar that we've tried up there, and are they coming out

798
00:48:44,234 --> 00:48:48,058
soon? They should be out in January. Yeah. Okay. See, just, yeah, January,

799
00:48:48,146 --> 00:48:51,946
new year, new me. You're right. I'm going to post about it

800
00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:54,754
because I'm going to be one of the first people buying that bar. And from

801
00:48:54,794 --> 00:48:58,370
Olympics point of view, and, you know, the back pain, I'm a lifter. I'm

802
00:48:58,402 --> 00:49:01,970
limited by the amount of volume I can do and the more,

803
00:49:02,082 --> 00:49:05,498
you know, that's hindering me from getting to the next level.

804
00:49:05,666 --> 00:49:09,290
And with that bar, that setup that you gave me,

805
00:49:09,442 --> 00:49:12,818
I can do probably 150%

806
00:49:12,986 --> 00:49:16,786
of my current volume, and that is plenty if

807
00:49:16,810 --> 00:49:19,426
I had to. I mean, I don't even know if there are any drugs out

808
00:49:19,450 --> 00:49:23,250
there that can get your performance that high. And this is just a bar. I'm

809
00:49:23,282 --> 00:49:26,558
glad you get this. So many people, they like, oh, I'm not in, you know,

810
00:49:26,566 --> 00:49:30,374
whatever pain, I don't need that I'm young, or that just doesn't

811
00:49:30,414 --> 00:49:34,062
connect with them. And the fact you understand, like, and you said that right away,

812
00:49:34,118 --> 00:49:37,262
you're like, I'm buying this. Can I be first on this list? Like, I'm gonna

813
00:49:37,278 --> 00:49:39,918
be able to squat a lot more. And that's what I need to do. And

814
00:49:39,926 --> 00:49:43,726
that's what my coach, like, I'm glad you understand, like, that concept and

815
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:46,910
how that rolls into place. Cause a lot of people aren't grasped, like,

816
00:49:47,102 --> 00:49:50,934
our, our bars are performance enhancers. Like, that's the

817
00:49:51,014 --> 00:49:54,756
point. Like, what was your experience with it? Yeah, well, I'll

818
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:58,412
just say this. It's a kind of, you, you kind of hit it the

819
00:49:58,508 --> 00:50:01,700
nail on the head in regards to. Because I've

820
00:50:01,732 --> 00:50:05,324
tried other things before, you know, similar bars as far as that goes,

821
00:50:05,364 --> 00:50:09,004
and it's the concept when I did this bar, for

822
00:50:09,044 --> 00:50:12,784
one, not having any forward

823
00:50:13,484 --> 00:50:17,036
momentum going down and be able to really activate

824
00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:20,868
the quads at the bottom end and go into a deep squat. And also without

825
00:50:20,916 --> 00:50:24,726
having any knee pain, because literally, like,

826
00:50:24,830 --> 00:50:28,502
my right knee. And, you know, I don't care about

827
00:50:28,638 --> 00:50:32,254
making this known or whatever the case is, but, you know, at

828
00:50:32,294 --> 00:50:35,766
most times, I stay away from these guys as far as it goes, but, and

829
00:50:35,790 --> 00:50:39,462
usually when it comes to leg day, I have to warm my knee,

830
00:50:39,518 --> 00:50:42,046
like doing. I think you saw the first set of squats. I did. I was

831
00:50:42,070 --> 00:50:45,238
very. The first one you did, you did a quarter. Cause you were very tentative,

832
00:50:45,286 --> 00:50:49,126
and I knew, I'm like, there's something going on. That was that, and then

833
00:50:49,150 --> 00:50:52,728
Ollie jumped on there, like, let me try that again. And,

834
00:50:52,856 --> 00:50:56,216
yeah, you could tell the surprise 100%. And that's

835
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,964
not, that's it. I'm man. So, long story short,

836
00:51:00,264 --> 00:51:03,936
when we have the bargain, you know what that's gonna. Do for your leg.

837
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,424
So this is gonna be innovation and body like that, they.

838
00:51:07,584 --> 00:51:11,384
The volume. Oh, yeah, the volume and the muscle engagement too,

839
00:51:11,424 --> 00:51:15,124
right? 100. But you both notice that. Yeah, that.

840
00:51:16,944 --> 00:51:20,596
So the muscle engagement that you

841
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:23,064
mentioned. So as Ollie lifter,

842
00:51:24,644 --> 00:51:28,092
we understand that the movement of your body starts with the

843
00:51:28,108 --> 00:51:31,580
hips. It starts from the hips and goes out to the extremities.

844
00:51:31,692 --> 00:51:34,980
So every movement that starts starts with the core. So it's your hips and your

845
00:51:35,012 --> 00:51:38,596
spine and the glutes are the biggest muscles. So any movement that you do in

846
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:42,212
Olympic lifting, like a snatch or clean and jerk squat, the

847
00:51:42,228 --> 00:51:46,008
contraction has to start with the hip, aka the glutes, and move

848
00:51:46,136 --> 00:51:49,124
throughout the rest of the body propagate. And

849
00:51:50,504 --> 00:51:54,128
I've had such a hard time trying to get glute activation, proper

850
00:51:54,176 --> 00:51:57,448
glute activation, mind you, I can burn out my glute medias minimus

851
00:51:57,496 --> 00:52:00,856
piriformis. Every muscle except for the glute maximus, which is

852
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,504
the performance of the human body, is the glute

853
00:52:04,544 --> 00:52:08,352
maximus and within. And this

854
00:52:08,368 --> 00:52:12,040
is why I had goosebumps. Two squats, guys. It took two.

855
00:52:12,112 --> 00:52:15,912
I had one plate on each side, like, it was 135, right? And I

856
00:52:15,928 --> 00:52:19,728
was like, wow. I activated my glutes on the outside of my leg, which

857
00:52:19,856 --> 00:52:22,952
I have not been able. It would take me 45 minutes of warming up to

858
00:52:22,968 --> 00:52:26,616
even get to that point. And I had that within two squats. And that's, that's

859
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,896
just amazing how, how personalized you can make it. And back to

860
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,496
bodybuilding if you want to, for the, for the ladies that

861
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,194
do bikini wellness, right? And you know, their lower body is very

862
00:52:37,234 --> 00:52:40,914
important in those groups.

863
00:52:41,034 --> 00:52:44,818
So that's something that they can take advantage of in the bodybuilding as well,

864
00:52:44,866 --> 00:52:48,594
especially the ladies. Right. Joe and Chris, you said

865
00:52:48,634 --> 00:52:52,042
something very specific. A problem that I always

866
00:52:52,138 --> 00:52:55,906
have 100% of the time is that pain in

867
00:52:55,930 --> 00:52:59,546
my lower back, that inflammation that, oh, I

868
00:52:59,570 --> 00:53:03,266
squatted heavy and my back is flamed up, my legs not

869
00:53:03,290 --> 00:53:06,780
so much, but my back, you know, and it's like,

870
00:53:06,972 --> 00:53:10,304
you know, can you explain that to me as far as. Yeah, so,

871
00:53:11,804 --> 00:53:15,236
and I think in your realm, too, it's not necessarily like the pain

872
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,144
sometimes so much as the pump is what I see with those

873
00:53:18,684 --> 00:53:22,464
bodybuilders. Right. So, because bodybuilders have a lot of,

874
00:53:22,924 --> 00:53:25,916
a lot of ways of enhancing their blood flow, they've built it into their

875
00:53:25,940 --> 00:53:29,508
physiology. And so you, you see them start training, their muscles

876
00:53:29,556 --> 00:53:33,300
just blow up well because

877
00:53:33,372 --> 00:53:36,704
of the breakdown in patterns due to the position changes,

878
00:53:38,244 --> 00:53:41,956
that thoracolumbar musculature in the back, right

879
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:45,460
below the TL junction, like all that, you'll see hypertonicity,

880
00:53:45,612 --> 00:53:49,460
and it's ready. And as soon as that starts pumping, that pump

881
00:53:49,532 --> 00:53:53,284
creates so much pressure and problems. And so it's not like, oh, my

882
00:53:53,324 --> 00:53:56,956
back hurts, but it's like throbbing and sweat, like it's

883
00:53:56,980 --> 00:54:00,498
this pump. And so people, yep, you know, it's like,

884
00:54:00,626 --> 00:54:04,290
oh, I can't. And some people like, change their supplementation on the day of

885
00:54:04,442 --> 00:54:07,498
just because it's like, oh, I don't want to take a, you know, a vasodilator

886
00:54:07,546 --> 00:54:11,058
before, before a leg day because I won't be able to, I'll be too pumped

887
00:54:11,106 --> 00:54:14,938
to do my workout 100%. And that

888
00:54:14,986 --> 00:54:18,682
is, that's going to be entirely inhibitive to your training because now you

889
00:54:18,698 --> 00:54:22,250
can't train these big mass generating, you know,

890
00:54:22,282 --> 00:54:26,094
muscles or power generating muscles like gluten if you're an athlete, right.

891
00:54:26,734 --> 00:54:30,446
So, yeah, if we can get the body in the good positions

892
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:34,206
where those aren't on and get overused early and fatigue out with

893
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:37,194
that big pump. Yep. You can just keep going.

894
00:54:38,054 --> 00:54:41,494
That's incredible. Incredible. But the one thing

895
00:54:41,534 --> 00:54:43,822
is the weights were sliding off the

896
00:54:43,838 --> 00:54:47,550
barbecue. I think the best

897
00:54:47,582 --> 00:54:51,374
barbells need the best clamp. So, really excited to see what we can come

898
00:54:51,414 --> 00:54:55,144
up with. 100%. It sounds like we're all into

899
00:54:55,184 --> 00:54:59,016
the same business with innovative techniques in

900
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,816
regards to what we're going to be doing going forward. So sounds like we need

901
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,264
to. So tell me a little bit more about your

902
00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:10,128
current journey as it relates to bodybuilding and this thousand

903
00:55:10,176 --> 00:55:13,896
pound deadlift and where you see the future ahead of you

904
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,728
and what challenges you anticipate. You know, I actually wrote about that

905
00:55:17,816 --> 00:55:21,264
on my feed yesterday because

906
00:55:23,404 --> 00:55:27,156
we've been talking briefly, you know, today and I've seen how

907
00:55:27,180 --> 00:55:30,948
your, your mind is. It's a machine.

908
00:55:31,076 --> 00:55:34,820
And I noticed that with myself just in a different

909
00:55:34,852 --> 00:55:38,380
way. And, and that's how it is with power,

910
00:55:38,572 --> 00:55:42,388
bodybuilding business, marketing. I

911
00:55:42,396 --> 00:55:45,784
don't see it as, I don't, I take market out because these things that

912
00:55:46,084 --> 00:55:49,732
happen naturally and it's not for attention

913
00:55:49,788 --> 00:55:52,452
or cloud or whatever. It's because I enjoy it. I love it, of course, and

914
00:55:52,468 --> 00:55:56,004
it just creates, I feel like obviously the audience, you know,

915
00:55:56,124 --> 00:55:59,628
sees the passion behind it, of course, and obviously the,

916
00:55:59,756 --> 00:56:03,540
you know, the excitement, of course. And, and I talked about this on

917
00:56:03,572 --> 00:56:07,420
my, my feed the other day in regards to, it's,

918
00:56:07,452 --> 00:56:10,624
it's literally like the best of all worlds because of,

919
00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:15,576
I never, this wanted to just be, I never just wanted just to be a

920
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,432
bodybuilder with a good physique. I never wanted to be

921
00:56:19,528 --> 00:56:22,872
just powerful or strong. Coming up as a

922
00:56:22,888 --> 00:56:26,552
bodybuilder, I remember hearing it and, you know, thinking,

923
00:56:26,648 --> 00:56:30,240
you know, well, I can achieve that because, you know,

924
00:56:30,272 --> 00:56:33,984
back when they talked about bodybuilding, when I was coming up was,

925
00:56:34,024 --> 00:56:37,820
oh, bodybuilders aren't strong. And I was,

926
00:56:37,892 --> 00:56:41,652
and back then I was thinking, well, you know, I think I'm pretty fairly strong,

927
00:56:41,708 --> 00:56:45,180
but it's like I always want to be known as, you know, I'm a

928
00:56:45,212 --> 00:56:49,012
bodybuilder, but I still want to be a powerhouse. Like I

929
00:56:49,028 --> 00:56:52,612
used to love going to the gym and, you know, being known as one of

930
00:56:52,628 --> 00:56:55,892
the strongest in the gym with having a

931
00:56:55,948 --> 00:56:59,564
bodybuilder like type physique. So, and that's still

932
00:56:59,604 --> 00:57:02,664
what's, what lives in me now to this point. You know,

933
00:57:03,744 --> 00:57:07,520
I have this goal of now, you know, we've done 910

934
00:57:07,552 --> 00:57:10,944
pounds on a kabuki bar at CT Fletcher's event last

935
00:57:10,984 --> 00:57:14,448
year. And now this year we're going

936
00:57:14,496 --> 00:57:18,256
for bigger goals as far as that goes, but also want

937
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,360
to do it in regards to complementing the

938
00:57:21,392 --> 00:57:24,524
physique that I have as a professional bodybuilder.

939
00:57:25,264 --> 00:57:28,284
You know, and I'll be honest with you, I've, I have,

940
00:57:29,204 --> 00:57:32,836
I have tested waters in regards to, you know what? I have

941
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:36,692
this 880 pound deadlift coming up. Let me, let me

942
00:57:36,708 --> 00:57:40,452
go eat. And, you know, I gained weight and I remember I did a deadlift

943
00:57:40,588 --> 00:57:44,372
and I was about 290 something pounds. I had gained like 1213 pounds in

944
00:57:44,388 --> 00:57:47,780
like a month or whatever. And I was like, okay, let me see how this

945
00:57:47,812 --> 00:57:51,276
feels. And, and I don't like it. I

946
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:54,788
noticed because with myself, I have

947
00:57:54,836 --> 00:57:58,630
noticed that where my max, uh, period is

948
00:57:58,662 --> 00:58:02,398
in regards to what my max, uh, strength is,

949
00:58:02,446 --> 00:58:05,974
and it's usually around and it has a lot to do with the way I

950
00:58:06,014 --> 00:58:09,846
look and a gauge of where my

951
00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:12,614
weight is at, which is honestly, between 275 and

952
00:58:12,654 --> 00:58:16,470
282 and, and in good shape.

953
00:58:16,622 --> 00:58:20,294
So. And it's like, and I think as well, too, because it's like if I,

954
00:58:20,334 --> 00:58:23,846
if I look at myself now and I look at myself last year or the

955
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:26,374
year before that or whatever the case is, and I say this all the time,

956
00:58:26,414 --> 00:58:30,226
it's like you can't help but to get bigger or

957
00:58:30,250 --> 00:58:34,066
put on muscle mass or muscle tissue when you're eating protein, eating your

958
00:58:34,090 --> 00:58:37,874
meals, lifting heavy. And, you know, and I heard as well, too,

959
00:58:37,914 --> 00:58:40,138
I heard my buddy say at the gym the other day that, you know, it's

960
00:58:40,186 --> 00:58:43,394
a real straight shooter. He's like, dude, what are you doing? I'm like, what do

961
00:58:43,394 --> 00:58:46,658
you mean? He's like, you're looking bigger than ever. And I was like, I'm not

962
00:58:46,706 --> 00:58:50,250
doing nothing. Like, I'm eating and I'm training. He's like,

963
00:58:50,442 --> 00:58:54,086
you know, get your butt on stage. Cause, like, you're even bigger than where you

964
00:58:54,110 --> 00:58:57,022
were last year. And in my head, I've known this for years to where it's

965
00:58:57,038 --> 00:59:00,606
like, yeah, your body, we. I don't see it myself, but

966
00:59:00,710 --> 00:59:04,046
may I guess maybe other people do, of course, you know, and it just happens

967
00:59:04,070 --> 00:59:07,430
year after year until I back off of food and regards, where I'm not

968
00:59:07,462 --> 00:59:11,238
eating x amount of meals a day. And I was eating no supplementation and then

969
00:59:11,286 --> 00:59:14,686
training as well, too. You know, the body's just gonna keep

970
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:18,540
evolving, you know? And so now it's like, where are we going

971
00:59:18,662 --> 00:59:22,296
forward? It's like, you know, and I wrote about this to

972
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,768
where I'm going to go for this stupid,

973
00:59:25,936 --> 00:59:29,284
crazy amount deadlift. Why? Because I feel

974
00:59:29,624 --> 00:59:33,456
mentally driven, that I know I could do it. I feel the power is

975
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,816
there. Obviously. We both know, and we all know you gotta be a little crazy

976
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,736
as well, too. And it's like, that's a whole nother topic in regards to, like,

977
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,464
the mental side of it, which ali will tell you

978
00:59:43,624 --> 00:59:47,246
how I am every little when

979
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:51,102
it's coming down to a big lil, it's, it's, you

980
00:59:51,118 --> 00:59:53,686
know, I'll let him tell you that because it's obviously, that's a whole nother story,

981
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:57,030
which I'm sure you can actually I've seen your video. So it's like,

982
00:59:57,102 --> 01:00:00,034
I already know. And,

983
01:00:00,534 --> 01:00:04,238
and that's, that's, that's, that's, that's why it's so cool, man. Cuz it's just like,

984
01:00:04,406 --> 01:00:08,230
I. Go ahead, man, I'll keep talking. I think that

985
01:00:08,262 --> 01:00:11,918
that's just a really great point to pull

986
01:00:11,966 --> 01:00:15,456
everything home here today. And that

987
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,856
story, to me, articulates some great

988
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,736
things. So, Joe, all that conversation, what I'm hearing

989
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,288
is everything that you do in your life

990
01:00:26,456 --> 01:00:30,008
via being a bodybuilding, crafting within

991
01:00:30,096 --> 01:00:33,720
that space, bodybuilding strength, crafting

992
01:00:33,792 --> 01:00:37,168
as it relates to business, all this is, it's a big creative

993
01:00:37,216 --> 01:00:41,020
outlet, right? Hey, the architect, right?

994
01:00:41,132 --> 01:00:44,876
You are the architect of many things in your life, and that gives you a

995
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:48,460
vast level of outputs to create that in ways that didn't exist

996
01:00:48,652 --> 01:00:51,784
for others, and to create your own fashion of that.

997
01:00:52,524 --> 01:00:56,348
But what Joe is doing

998
01:00:56,476 --> 01:00:59,624
is also running that through his lens,

999
01:01:00,124 --> 01:01:03,596
his lens of his values. And this is the really

1000
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:07,204
important lesson there for me. And listen to this is how powerful that is.

1001
01:01:07,324 --> 01:01:11,102
Because it's easy when you're multitalented

1002
01:01:11,158 --> 01:01:14,854
and you're a creative person, to get lost in too many things. And

1003
01:01:14,894 --> 01:01:18,742
sometimes, like, how do I, how do I know what to focus on,

1004
01:01:18,798 --> 01:01:22,350
when to focus it on? So this is where having your value

1005
01:01:22,422 --> 01:01:26,214
set your intentions in the world. So, values, another word for

1006
01:01:26,254 --> 01:01:29,598
intentions, but it's what you use as your filtering

1007
01:01:29,646 --> 01:01:33,158
device. And so it's really important to understand that for

1008
01:01:33,206 --> 01:01:36,564
anybody that is wanting to mark change, to

1009
01:01:36,604 --> 01:01:40,076
create themselves, and to fashion the world around

1010
01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:43,948
them, is to do exactly as Joe is doing. Experiment in those

1011
01:01:43,996 --> 01:01:47,668
different realms. Don't be held by any boundaries. Respect the

1012
01:01:47,716 --> 01:01:50,988
past, but then use your own. What is your

1013
01:01:51,036 --> 01:01:54,772
unique set of values as your lens for all

1014
01:01:54,788 --> 01:01:58,636
of that. And so, I really appreciate you,

1015
01:01:58,660 --> 01:02:02,452
Sarah, and your stories, as I relate to that. Hopefully I'm not off point in

1016
01:02:02,468 --> 01:02:06,074
my assessment of what I'm hearing here. I'm just like, man,

1017
01:02:06,244 --> 01:02:09,950
it's like, honestly, with all of us here, I feel like we could

1018
01:02:09,982 --> 01:02:13,726
talk for seven days straight. Cause there's so much. And

1019
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:16,686
it's like I'm leaving some stuff out, just so I don't talk too much. But

1020
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:20,022
it's absolutely, I mean, you're right on the point as far as goals. And I

1021
01:02:20,038 --> 01:02:23,822
know once I get started, I talk. So that's where I'm thinking. It's

1022
01:02:23,838 --> 01:02:27,670
a good point. Ollie, did you have any last words that you wanna put in

1023
01:02:27,702 --> 01:02:31,350
here? Yeah, you know, I've known your work has been

1024
01:02:31,422 --> 01:02:35,202
pretty inspiring and I went and bought your book

1025
01:02:35,338 --> 01:02:38,698
to read it and actually get into it.

1026
01:02:38,746 --> 01:02:42,130
Right. I don't want to be an outsider looking in. I want to get into

1027
01:02:42,162 --> 01:02:45,610
the mind, and I know the things that you do online. So would you mind

1028
01:02:45,642 --> 01:02:48,450
signing a book for me real quick? I have it right here. Holy hell. Yeah.

1029
01:02:48,562 --> 01:02:49,854
Yeah. Also.

1030
01:02:54,194 --> 01:02:57,802
All right, here we go. I really appreciate that, and I thought

1031
01:02:57,818 --> 01:03:01,636
it would be appropriate since we're here at architect. What

1032
01:03:01,660 --> 01:03:03,664
better place? It's going to be great. Yeah, yeah.

1033
01:03:06,764 --> 01:03:10,572
Could you make it out to Mackie innovations, please? Okay. Because we

1034
01:03:10,588 --> 01:03:13,704
want to, as a company, use those principles that you speak about.

1035
01:03:15,724 --> 01:03:19,316
Really appreciate that. You know, this makes it really unique for

1036
01:03:19,340 --> 01:03:22,804
us because now we have Chris's book, you know,

1037
01:03:22,844 --> 01:03:26,436
signed on the podcast. Maybe we should put this book up for auction on

1038
01:03:26,460 --> 01:03:27,144
eBay.

1039
01:03:31,374 --> 01:03:34,834
And, you know, Joe and I, we have a company archive

1040
01:03:36,214 --> 01:03:39,910
where we keep all the stories and the funny things and the cool things

1041
01:03:39,942 --> 01:03:43,694
that happen on our journey with Mack innovations. And this, I think I spelled

1042
01:03:43,734 --> 01:03:45,594
calf wrong, but that's even better.

1043
01:03:47,854 --> 01:03:50,914
Thank you. So this book is definitely going into

1044
01:03:51,654 --> 01:03:55,274
Mackie innovations. Let's live

1045
01:03:55,314 --> 01:03:58,454
better through strength, calf, friends forever.

1046
01:03:59,434 --> 01:04:02,626
Thank you. So this is going to go in our company archive for sure, after

1047
01:04:02,650 --> 01:04:05,906
I get done reading it on my flight back home. All right, so we appreciate

1048
01:04:05,930 --> 01:04:09,706
it. Awesome. Thank you. Well, I want to. Anybody

1049
01:04:09,730 --> 01:04:13,218
that wants to check out and join on our discord

1050
01:04:13,266 --> 01:04:17,058
community, you know, follow the links on the Architect for Resilience podcast

1051
01:04:17,146 --> 01:04:20,690
on that. Hoping to have

1052
01:04:20,842 --> 01:04:24,554
Joe and Ollie provide an assignment related to some of the topics

1053
01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:28,106
that we had this week around creative expression in the

1054
01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:31,978
entrepreneurial way. So check out that

1055
01:04:32,146 --> 01:04:35,738
this week is extra special for our endless

1056
01:04:35,786 --> 01:04:39,498
assignment assessment assignment. We've got two

1057
01:04:39,546 --> 01:04:43,306
guests on really great individuals in their own rights and

1058
01:04:43,330 --> 01:04:46,570
are creating a tremendous business as well

1059
01:04:46,602 --> 01:04:50,174
that I love to hear more about. And I'm really excited to hear about

1060
01:04:50,774 --> 01:04:54,534
what. What they've got in store and would like you to task yourself with

1061
01:04:54,574 --> 01:04:58,174
this week. I think a lot of it, what I've personally

1062
01:04:58,214 --> 01:05:01,942
done and. And I've been fortunate enough to

1063
01:05:01,958 --> 01:05:05,446
be around some really great mentors coming up,

1064
01:05:05,550 --> 01:05:09,326
and it really came down to self evaluated, and it

1065
01:05:09,350 --> 01:05:13,190
even starts with the smallest things, and even. This is another funny

1066
01:05:13,222 --> 01:05:16,938
conversation club. Had these talks with Ali, but you can take something

1067
01:05:16,986 --> 01:05:20,602
small, like, you know, saying, uh, I remember having a conversation with a

1068
01:05:20,618 --> 01:05:24,418
lifter at the gym, and I asked him, I said, um, he

1069
01:05:24,426 --> 01:05:27,362
was getting ready for a power lift, the meet. And I said, what are you

1070
01:05:27,378 --> 01:05:31,202
going to hit at the meet this weekend? And he says, oh, I'm

1071
01:05:31,218 --> 01:05:33,506
going to try to do this, I'm going to try to do this. And I'm

1072
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:36,106
a, you know, if this happens, then I'm trying to do that. And I said,

1073
01:05:36,170 --> 01:05:39,922
stop. I said, you just failed. And I was like, he's like,

1074
01:05:39,938 --> 01:05:43,638
what do you mean? I said, first of all, tell yourself

1075
01:05:43,726 --> 01:05:47,566
what you're going to do. I'm trying not to curse, but I just get

1076
01:05:47,590 --> 01:05:50,790
real passionate about this. But it's like, take all of the

1077
01:05:50,982 --> 01:05:54,814
little, I'm trying to do this, maybe I'll do this. You know, if this

1078
01:05:54,854 --> 01:05:58,182
happens, whatever the case is, I have never achieved anything in life

1079
01:05:58,238 --> 01:06:02,030
by saying I'm gonna go try to do this. Or maybe if this

1080
01:06:02,062 --> 01:06:05,434
happens, then hopefully this will take, hopefully, maybe try

1081
01:06:05,734 --> 01:06:08,866
those little keywords like that. I don't even use, I don't even like them. I'll

1082
01:06:08,890 --> 01:06:12,218
literally tell you straight up, you know, he's checking his head right now

1083
01:06:12,266 --> 01:06:15,762
because not in regards to business or what we doing, but just in regards

1084
01:06:15,818 --> 01:06:19,522
to other things that we've talked about as far as it goes to where

1085
01:06:19,578 --> 01:06:23,258
those little key words like that make a huge difference

1086
01:06:23,306 --> 01:06:26,906
to just self evaluation and your four momentum with doing things in life.

1087
01:06:27,050 --> 01:06:30,594
So I'm big on law of attraction. I'm big

1088
01:06:30,634 --> 01:06:34,058
on seeing division. Every big lip I've always

1089
01:06:34,106 --> 01:06:37,936
done, I've always posted it, I've always told my audience, not from being arrogant

1090
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,896
or cocky, but it's a certain mental

1091
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,496
aggression with anything in life to where I've said

1092
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,000
I'm going to have that, I'm going to do that any big

1093
01:06:48,032 --> 01:06:51,280
lil, I would announce it and it got to a point to where it's

1094
01:06:51,312 --> 01:06:54,944
trending, to where I would say I'm going to lift 850

1095
01:06:54,984 --> 01:06:57,872
pounds for three rubs this week. And then you will see the comments. Well, if

1096
01:06:57,888 --> 01:07:01,540
Joe said it, that means he's going to do it. Not because I'm strong

1097
01:07:01,612 --> 01:07:05,460
or power, whatever the case is, because it's, it's got to the point now to

1098
01:07:05,492 --> 01:07:09,020
where I don't speak in regards to I'm going to try or maybe

1099
01:07:09,212 --> 01:07:12,972
if I say something it's going to happen. And that's in

1100
01:07:12,988 --> 01:07:16,692
regard, and obviously, you know, take that with a grain of salt. I'm not over

1101
01:07:16,708 --> 01:07:20,068
here saying I'm going to, I'm going to lift 1500 pounds. I

1102
01:07:20,076 --> 01:07:23,292
mean, realistically, of course, you know, but it's, it's in regards

1103
01:07:23,348 --> 01:07:27,056
to, I see the image and I see the visual

1104
01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:30,672
and I'm talking about when it comes to success, when it comes to lifting, when

1105
01:07:30,688 --> 01:07:33,984
it comes to business. When it comes to something that I'm

1106
01:07:34,064 --> 01:07:37,792
particularly someone in control of, based off the work and effort that

1107
01:07:37,808 --> 01:07:41,640
I put in, I will see the vision and I'll create it. But I always

1108
01:07:41,672 --> 01:07:44,512
tell myself that it's going to happen as well, too. So basically what you take

1109
01:07:44,528 --> 01:07:48,312
from that is always see it, tell yourself what's going

1110
01:07:48,328 --> 01:07:51,992
to happen and then do it and proceed and obviously take the necessary stuff to

1111
01:07:52,008 --> 01:07:53,244
get it done as well, too.

1112
01:07:55,964 --> 01:07:59,812
So your assignment from Joe this week, pick something

1113
01:07:59,868 --> 01:08:03,644
gnarly that you've got as a goal and make a

1114
01:08:03,684 --> 01:08:06,864
statement about it in advance. Put that out there.

1115
01:08:09,364 --> 01:08:12,924
So for my thing, and I think

1116
01:08:13,084 --> 01:08:16,852
a lot of people can relate, me

1117
01:08:16,948 --> 01:08:20,434
being in the position that I am coming so far,

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maybe even into the public light, has been a decision that I

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made. And the first decision was to quit my full time

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job. And it was to pursue a dream of

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starting a business and creating a company

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that can not only make money, but also

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provide a solution and help to the hobbies and the passions that

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I have, which is the fitness and strength community.

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And the challenge that I want to present you guys

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to think about, at least for the next while, is to

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ask yourself, what are some fears that

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you have about your grandiose goals that are holding you back

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and to share. My fear was to quit my full time

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job. And, you know, as an engineer, you

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spend four years going to college, and these are four hard

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years. And I did two years of graduate school and I got my

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certificates and degrees. And you've put so much into

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just engineering, and you get to a

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point where to be better, you have to become more than

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your career. And with the mentorship of Joe

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Mackey, I decided to take that leap

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and jump out of my career into the

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entrepreneurship world. And that was a scary thing to

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do. If I had to describe the feeling, it was fear.

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That is. That is tremendous. I

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absolutely love that piece, Ollie, and I can

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feel it as you tell the story. It's giving me goosebumps for

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today because I actually

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just got yesterday a book from Doctor

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Michael Gervais, high performance psychologist. And it literally

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says that fear of, you know, is the number

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one thing that holds back innovation in the world today and holds you

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back. So, thank you. Yep. So your task

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this week is to journal that

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big. So, again, we've got a gnarly, accomplishable goal

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that you're going to make a statement about and go do. And then we've

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got that bigger, life altering dream that you

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have. You're going to journal your three

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fears around. What would happen if you did that?

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All right. Thank you, gentlemen. That's fantastic.