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Do you ever notice how the smallest thing like a back pain or a gut issue, it keeps going
for months, for years, we ignore it, we write it off, we take the medications, we try

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everything and we only start to realize that maybe it's the sign of something deeper.

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That's what this conversation is all about.

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If there is something in your life that you are feeling either physical pain, discomfort,

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anxiety and you just can't really pinpoint what that source is.

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Our guest today is Shazia and she is an incredible guide, a person who can take you into
your body and help you really release a lot of what might be stuck there.

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And so we'll be talking all about everything from emotions to a lot of the physical
symptoms you're experiencing to the thoughts that are really holding you down.

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Get ready to feel good naked.

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I'm your host, Sade, and if you're here right now, means that you are ready to strip away
all the crap, all the rules holding you back from feeling good in your body, in your mind,

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and in your life.

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Let's get into it.

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You know, when we're talking about ourselves, like we're not broken beings.

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And this is something that I've been kind of contemplating is even the word heal and
healing, you know, it's become so misconstrued.

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It's become work.

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So it's like, just change your obsession from work, work to healing work.

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If I do my breathing and if I do my yoga and if I do my this, then I will become, or I
will get to here.

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Where do you give the space for actually acceptance of like,

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I am a whole being.

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For me, I like to kind of relanguage that a little bit to finding a path of ease.

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How can we ease the things that are poking every day?

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We just maybe don't have an understanding of what that looks like or the permission.

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What people say, do you think, when they come to you or that you hear, that they mean
ease, but it's presented as something else initially?

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Or maybe they mean flow, but they don't say it because it's something else that they're
thinking it is, but it ultimately is this idea of just feeling, you know, comfortable,

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regulated.

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Yeah, I think a lot of people come to me with stress in their bodies, in their digestive
systems, in their patterns of sleep, in their day-to-day.

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And actually what I found most recently, like I've had a few people recently say, I don't
feel myself.

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I don't feel right.

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Something doesn't feel right and I no longer understand how to be functioning in the
spaces that I used to understand.

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And that is exactly what it is, that kind of jarring moment when you're like, I'm not
where I was.

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I'm maybe not kind of who I was understood to be, how we are and who we are and all of
those existential questions.

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I'd love to talk about more, but in this thread, how do I get closer feeling less jarred
by life?

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by the things that are happening to me, by the people that are around me.

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This confinement that they're starting to become aware of, but don't really understand
that it's awareness.

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That's what I want to pull on, get into it from there.

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But you're right.

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is not something that we are accustomed to.

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It's not something we're taught is acceptable or is okay.

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And the second that we are in a place of ease, there's discomfort.

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So people don't really...

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consider it as an option, but it's like, it's more generic, right?

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Because of what now language is accessible to people.

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So it's like, okay, I want to be healthy.

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I just, I want to be able to eat food and not have pain or I, I've had lower back problems
forever.

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What are each of these things telling me as I'm deciphering it?

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And when I have a body on the table, the body is speaking.

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People come in with the mind.

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And then I'm like, okay, I've now heard what your mind wants to say.

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Let's see what the other side is saying too.

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And how can we understand where the disconnect is?

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And is that disconnect from now?

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Is it from five years ago?

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Is it from when I was three years old?

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How long has my digestion been unable to digest and process the way my life has been
going?

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This is like the crux of it.

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When we're talking about something that is functional in the body, the organ has a job,
the body has jobs to do.

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What's in the way of them being able to do this with ease?

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Because you always think that the dysfunction comes from the physical versus it is often
so much deeper than that, isn't it?

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Like you'll come in and I could say, oh, my hormones are out of whack, something's wrong
with them.

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But it's not actually, that's a symptom, right?

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It's not the actual presenting problem.

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It's what I see and I communicate to you.

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And then you can see in my body as you explore in different things.

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What are some things that you see that the body speaks?

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Ways that it

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tells that when you have someone on the table that you see and you maybe it reaffirms what
they told you or maybe it contradicts.

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Often I have people with digestive issues.

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I have people with back pain, shoulder pain, sleep problems and high stress.

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That would be probably the bulk of it.

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Also anxiety and um anxiety depression going in between.

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And a lot of people come now more with emotional stuff, which is interesting because then
it's the opposite way.

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Because I also work online with unraveling the emotions that are stuck in the body and how
they get trapped and how we can create different patterns of belief.

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When people are on the table, it's kind of fun to see how is that actually impacting the
body?

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Because people are like, I don't have any physical symptoms.

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And then you're like, push right here.

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Oh, my God, that hurts so much.

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What is that?

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A fun one I had is somebody came with a problem with their toe.

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And they're like, yeah, yeah, I have a problem with my toe.

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And I'm like, okay.

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But the toe was actually connected to a problem in the gut with an acid alkaline imbalance
going into the, well, really in the gut and the digestive circuit.

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And then it was actually further compounded by a lack of validation that was kind of
coming in present time, but connected to a problem with the mother got into

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the relationships, we get into the emotional side, the energetic side, because meridians
are flowing through the body.

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And when there's a block, it can be emotional, it can be nutritional, it can be energetic,
it can be physical, it's structural something.

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So pushing into a system here, there were some lymphatic points I was working on.

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And she was like, wait, I can feel my toe.

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These little kind of curiosities that we begin to see that

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Anything can be the cause or cure of anything.

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When the body is speaking, how well can we listen?

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And I like to kind of consider myself a little bit like a translator.

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So the body's talking to me and then I'm kind of translating it.

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And as we're looking, we're seeing, oh, this is a thing, this is a thing.

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What is kind of coming out in the session?

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And a picture begins to form.

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And often the client's like, I had no idea that was still.

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present.

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I've been doing therapy on that for 10 years.

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Why is that still coming up?

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Or how is that linked?

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I didn't see that.

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I'll actually come to think of it.

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My back problem did start 12 years ago when, you know, mom and dad got divorced or when,
you know, I was taking responsibility for everyone or whatever it is.

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For me, that's the coolest thing because it's not just one element.

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It's not just the mind.

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It's not

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Just the body, we're looking into all sides of things.

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Emotional work, mental work, chemical work.

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Where is your diet not playing well here?

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What is your blood type?

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What are your supplements that are taking?

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How can we pull all these things together to create a path for you, connect, and find more
union, more balance every day?

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Coming into a place of balance is the goal, whatever that means for each person.

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And you're doing it with the whole holistic view, which is why originally I wanted to talk
to you so much because I think not many people are, right?

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They might straddle one or two areas, but it is like you were saying with a therapist, for
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the same issues, it's interesting to say, okay, what else is not being addressed here?

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If I'm just trying to work on it mentally.

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what's being held elsewhere or like away from my thoughts so I can't heal it.

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And also for the therapist, can they actually feel where I'm holding all these tensions
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They can't, right?

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Because it's not part of the job.

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They're there to speak to me and on Earth that way, but they're actually there physically
feeling where in my body is all of this.

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I could present it with hunched shoulders, but I also could not.

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It could be in my hips.

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How would you know?

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Very interesting to see that.

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going a little bit deeper into more areas if it's a presenting problem you've had for many
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Definitely and the kind of like somatic sensing of can I sit also with myself for five
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my body right now Am I getting a little?

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Tension somewhere am I getting a little stinging in this side of my leg right here or what
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Can I stay there?

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Can I sit in that for a moment and say?

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Hey body, what are you telling me here?

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What is this?

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Who's speaking?

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These are also really beautiful things that we kind of work with and more tools that I
kind of bring is this sensing and curiosity to connect deeper into the body.

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So you begin to get a feeling of like, something's not right.

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Or every time I walk into a room with this one person, what is that emotion?

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Can I feel it?

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Can I acknowledge it?

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Can I maybe even give it a color or a texture?

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A sense.

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What does that represent to me?

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Okay.

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Why is it that every time I'm around this energy, I feel something in my body?

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Because I'm obviously not addressing it in another way.

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I'm not addressing it emotionally, consciously.

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I'm not able to sort of say, this is not a dynamic that I'm enjoying.

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This is not something that I feel safe.

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And this is not something that feels comfortable to me.

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But if I don't have the language for that or the tools to express that language, the body
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put them somewhere.

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And eventually there's no more space.

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So it builds and it builds and it builds and it builds.

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So when I'm working from a top-down bottom-up approach, it's like, how can we

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the things that have been stored up, whether they are trapped emotions, things that get
stuck because we don't have a tool to process them.

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If you have an experience where you are seeing something quite sad when you're a child and
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will go to places in the body and store as a vibration.

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So how can we clean the buildup?

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so that every time you see something that's a little bit confronting, you're not exploding
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something that you don't like.

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It's a natural state without being clogged up.

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It's like cleaning the basement and then also looking at what's in the house.

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How can I kind of move things around, feel better in this space?

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Essentially, in the end, it's kind of like going into a software or hardware update.

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Oh, there was a break from this?

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Okay, how do we get that together?

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You know, somebody who's had a really intense car accident and, you know, whiplash.

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How does the emotion that they experience in that moment, the actual trauma of the injury
in that moment, get stuck in the body?

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And then how can we recall that and clean the area so that actually there's much more
mobility and access in this place?

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Right?

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It's like if it wasn't treated at the time in a certain way, there's buildup, there's
residue.

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I can see that if you had an accident when you were really young, example, a whiplash, and
then your physical response default becomes to something stressful, surprising, dramatic,

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that tension in your shoulders or your neck, because that's what your body learned when
you were young.

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And even to go further within that, if you were somebody who had an accident when you were
a child and you're in the hospital, what does the hospital A represent to you?

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But B, who came to the hospital?

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You remember, dad was working a lot and like, even though he came once, I will just wanted
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So what does that mean?

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If I'm sick or the opposite?

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Like dad's never around and when I'm sick, dad shows up.

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Okay.

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Body says, hey, when you're sick, you'll get attention.

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Okay.

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Now I'm going to get sick every time I feel like I don't have enough attention so that
somebody, especially dad, especially maybe a male figure will show up for me.

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Memory is in the next phase.

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So when I'm feeling like I'm having a lack of attention, my neck, gets tight and tight and
tight and I don't have the access to turn to this side.

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What a connection that you maybe don't

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pull together.

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So these are where we want to be looking.

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know, committing to yourself every single day takes courage, it takes vulnerability,
something that you have to commit to and be dedicated to.

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And so often we don't choose ourselves.

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We're the last person we think about in the day.

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It's like, how do we wake up in the morning and forget ourselves?

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When do we remember?

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Maybe a glimpse in the day, or it's like, oh, I should go and do...

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Like, I know I need to work out, so let me go and do pilates, or let me go and do this
because I need to have this structure.

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I need to have a routine that makes me at least feel like I'm doing something.

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In that should, in that forcing of doing or not finding a way to understand the being of
it, you're just continuing this intense way of life.

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For me, yes, it's very, very important.

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Embodiment.

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path of curiosity or how do I construct the things that I have to abide by if I could melt
those things away and actually ask myself every day how do I want this day to be?

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What are my needs in this moment?

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Can I listen?

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Can I soften to that?

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That separation we create, right, between the three, the mind, the body, the spirit.

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it is, even when you were speaking, I was thinking of how, even when I was in fitness for
so long, the incentive to work out was should, because it's part of the routine, it's

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what's expected.

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It's what I need to do this because this is also a fear of if I don't do this, what
happens to my body then, what happens to my discipline then.

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And so it was heightened as even well.

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And I think that actually poisoned it a little bit because it made it go from something
that was before, like you said, of waking up, what does my body need today?

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What kind of movement do I want?

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If I don't have movement today, is that okay?

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Because it no longer was at that point.

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And I feel like it's interesting because a lot of the healthy habits you probably hear
from your clients that they're doing become less healthy.

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because of the rigidity that they're placing on.

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Absolutely, and that's why I really loved what I'm doing now in terms of working as a
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personalized and at the end of the day I might give some guidance but if you as my client
go home and are like, you know what really landed was this thing and feels best for me.

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It's interesting how you explain this because I think about how the body is like a finite
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And I can see how that overflow happens if you're not clearing like you're talking about.

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And especially if it's going to the same spot again and again, which it does.

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I think that that's probably resonating with a lot of people.

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If someone's listening, they're thinking, okay, what's the first thing that I can do to
bring awareness to this?

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to maybe just start that initial path of exploring, how do you usually recommend people
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anybody who wants to go down a path of discovery or curiosity is to begin to cultivate a
relationship with the body, with self.

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Basic time, let's say, if you can commit 10 minutes to sit, to be in presence with
yourself, to notice any judgment.

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I give this as homework a lot to my class.

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because it's a moment in time where there's no goal.

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There is no destination.

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There's no, have to do something in this time.

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Staying with it.

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Whatever begins to happen, it's kind of coming back, picking a place of presence.

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And maybe that's just like kind of looking at your hands, like, okay, I'm here.

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I'm good.

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It's okay.

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Touching a little bit the body.

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Hey, reassurance.

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Cool.

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Okay, but just sitting with self just for 10 minutes.

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Can I be here with me?

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Can I be present now with me?

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Waking up in the morning, I love this morning hug.

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It seems so simple.

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But how many of us actually give ourselves the tenderness, the moment of affection of just
like, hey, good morning.

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Hi, good morning, me.

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If I'm the last person coming back to that, it makes me think of like when you go to a
restaurant and you're alone and you're like, it's only me.

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It's just me.

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Why do we have to say it in that way?

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Why is the languaging, it's only me?

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No, it's me.

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It's equally important to have a table for one person than it is for two.

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So coming to that place of saying, I am important to, I matter.

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I'm the actually...

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the most important person and that is not being selfish, that is selfing, right?

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It's coming to a place of care for self that doesn't require doing anything other than
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That's where I would start.

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It's even just assessing when I'm choosing to do a type of healing therapy, what is my
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And am I ready to take this as me doing this?

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I always try to check in with clients.

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This is about you.

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It's not about me and what I'm going to tell you, what I'm going to show you or any of
those things.

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I'm mirroring here and I'm just like, you have to choose to get into the car.

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On the path of life, are you the driver?

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And if you get in the driver's seat, I'll be your passenger.

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Let's go.

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Hairy or not hairy?

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I've got a torch, don't worry about it.

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But you have to make the choice to be the driver and to take the responsibility for it.

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And when you do that, so many things open up for you.

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So many things, because you're not placing that on anyone else other than you because
you're worth it.

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I deserve it.

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That is the ultimate message.

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Are you prepared to be the driver?

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And for people who are like, maybe I want a passenger.

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Where can people connect with you?

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Because we have barely touched the surface of what you do and the work.

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There's so much more.

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Some people might be curious or they might know people who could actually really benefit.

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My Instagram is shine with shaz.

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Shine with shaz, that's me, shaz.

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Metalandmaven.com.

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So we'll include links for all of it and thank you so much.

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It felt very much like for people who aren't here, they don't know, but the energy is you
just feel like it feels like being hugged in a way.

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Honestly, my intention, and if we want to go back to the mission statement, is that
anybody who needs or wants to feel like themselves, but also as if they are kind of held

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in this journey, there is safety.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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Share this episode with anyone who you know is struggling with some of the things we
talked about where they might think it's something as small as just this back pain that

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never goes away or this indigestion, this inflammation, all of these different symptoms
that we write off for years, for decades.

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Please share this episode so they can start to have a little bit of this awareness.

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And if you found that it was really helpful here, make sure that you connect.

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And I will see you in the next one.

