1
00:00:00,510 --> 00:00:05,220
You're listening to various spatial
podcast, episode 757, March 23rd, 2025.

2
00:00:21,975 --> 00:00:23,445
Hello and welcome to a
very spatial podcast.

3
00:00:23,705 --> 00:00:24,085
I'm Jesse.

4
00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:25,160
I'm Sue,

5
00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,030
I'm Barb,

6
00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:26,840
and this is Frank.

7
00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,840
And this week we're gonna be talking
to a few different people at the

8
00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,190
North Carolina GIS conference.

9
00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,410
But first, a little bit of news.

10
00:00:33,650 --> 00:00:39,920
The Data Rescue Project is a
project to create a data curation

11
00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,270
repository or clearinghouse
for open data and public data.

12
00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:46,100
And it is.

13
00:00:46,785 --> 00:00:50,565
Started in part by the International
Association of Social Science

14
00:00:50,565 --> 00:00:52,845
Information Service and Technology.

15
00:00:53,295 --> 00:00:56,385
And this is an association that's
been around a very long time.

16
00:00:56,385 --> 00:00:58,245
It's 50 this year.

17
00:00:58,475 --> 00:01:01,504
And they are taking the lead so that.

18
00:01:02,140 --> 00:01:05,080
You have a clearinghouse so that
people aren't duplicating efforts for

19
00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,210
either collecting data or sharing data.

20
00:01:08,210 --> 00:01:11,990
So it's another place to come when people
are asking, where do I find data Now?

21
00:01:12,330 --> 00:01:15,539
Here is another place to go to find
data that you might be looking for.

22
00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:17,310
They also are accepting volunteers.

23
00:01:17,639 --> 00:01:20,760
This ties into a blog post we had
recently that highlighted some

24
00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,960
of the efforts that are going on.

25
00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:22,679
So again.

26
00:01:23,165 --> 00:01:28,025
With many of the sites continuing to go
offline in the United States, much to

27
00:01:28,025 --> 00:01:34,065
our consternation, these are ways to try
to at least get back to that information

28
00:01:34,065 --> 00:01:37,005
so that we do still have access to data.

29
00:01:37,255 --> 00:01:41,925
At some level it is making it curious
with teaching classes about accessing

30
00:01:41,925 --> 00:01:47,205
data and places we've gone to and
told students about for decades or.

31
00:01:47,985 --> 00:01:50,415
Not necessarily where they need to go now.

32
00:01:50,805 --> 00:01:54,865
So yeah, it's, it's throwing a little
curve ball into some of our lectures.

33
00:01:55,134 --> 00:01:55,465
Yeah.

34
00:01:55,465 --> 00:01:59,639
And I also think it's important to
there's been a lot of situations in.

35
00:02:00,700 --> 00:02:02,950
The past, oh, 30, 40
years, something like that.

36
00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,639
That, well, certainly since the internet
basically has come online and allowed

37
00:02:06,639 --> 00:02:12,580
us to publish all this data where we've
kind of forgotten that a single point

38
00:02:12,580 --> 00:02:16,959
of failure is a single point of failure,
I. The one that, where it was really

39
00:02:16,959 --> 00:02:21,929
highlighted for me was Katrina, where a
awful lot of the federal data agencies

40
00:02:21,929 --> 00:02:24,119
had their data servers down in Louisiana.

41
00:02:24,119 --> 00:02:27,000
For a whole lot of reasons that were
perfectly legitimate reasons, but

42
00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,170
whenever the hurricane came through and
shut off, all power flooded, everything,

43
00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:34,769
stuff like that, suddenly there was a
loss of a lot of really critical data.

44
00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,579
It's, you know, it just sort of
highlights the importance of not

45
00:02:38,579 --> 00:02:43,140
just technical redundancy, but in
fact there can be a, a political.

46
00:02:43,755 --> 00:02:47,565
A hurricane, for lack of a better
analogy, that comes through and, and

47
00:02:47,565 --> 00:02:49,805
decimate something or hinders something.

48
00:02:49,805 --> 00:02:52,325
So we do need these multiple
points of failure, not just from

49
00:02:52,325 --> 00:02:55,515
a technology standpoint, but also
from a philosophical point of view,

50
00:02:55,815 --> 00:03:01,644
which ties into our second note that I.
We keep seeing more and more committees

51
00:03:01,644 --> 00:03:04,975
that are directly related to geospatial
technologies, either through delay

52
00:03:05,365 --> 00:03:10,765
data collection data serving data
analysis, processing, making it public.

53
00:03:11,095 --> 00:03:14,695
All these different agencies that touch
the geospatial space and, you know,

54
00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:20,704
data in general are seeing significant
cuts, if not attempts at closure.

55
00:03:20,755 --> 00:03:24,535
We're seeing a lot of pushback
at the federal judiciary level.

56
00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:26,690
On the completely get rid, rid of.

57
00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:30,770
But of course, we're also seeing
the current administration ignoring

58
00:03:31,310 --> 00:03:33,380
the judiciary in many ways.

59
00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:36,490
So just keep in mind the one that
I have in the show notes is the

60
00:03:36,490 --> 00:03:40,480
Office of Space Commerce which had
a committee that basically couldn't

61
00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,550
meet because funding was, was cut.

62
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:48,430
We have seen other committees have
their funding cut and their planned

63
00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,770
in-person meetings be canceled, but.

64
00:03:51,465 --> 00:03:54,115
They continue to meet virtually.

65
00:03:54,455 --> 00:03:56,615
And so getting things through that way.

66
00:03:56,855 --> 00:04:00,365
So just, just be aware to, you
know, if there are committees that

67
00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:04,885
you're interested in the activities
they're undertaking, keep an

68
00:04:04,885 --> 00:04:06,545
eye on them see what's going on.

69
00:04:07,065 --> 00:04:09,344
Some of this is ending up in the
federal Register, but at the same

70
00:04:09,344 --> 00:04:12,704
time, the Federal Register, I
don't think can probably keep up.

71
00:04:12,704 --> 00:04:15,765
I mean, and whether or not they're
even publishing these to the federal

72
00:04:15,765 --> 00:04:17,354
Register, which of course itself is.

73
00:04:18,135 --> 00:04:21,435
Not what's supposed to happen,
not publishing information to

74
00:04:21,435 --> 00:04:23,115
the Federal Register, but yeah.

75
00:04:23,565 --> 00:04:26,715
So yes, go out, check out the committees
that you're interested in, whether it

76
00:04:26,715 --> 00:04:32,304
be the Office of Space Commerce or any
others that do of course have impacts on.

77
00:04:33,219 --> 00:04:36,729
The geospatial industry in this
case, of course, the launching of,

78
00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,109
of various satellites and such.

79
00:04:38,379 --> 00:04:40,749
Well, that's where I was
wondering that a lot of these are

80
00:04:40,749 --> 00:04:42,399
shared, again, shared resources.

81
00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:45,669
You go to them, you expect to find them
'cause you've told people about them.

82
00:04:46,149 --> 00:04:49,329
You plan to use them for, for
projects and other things.

83
00:04:49,329 --> 00:04:52,379
You know, even in
international partnerships.

84
00:04:52,379 --> 00:04:54,329
And then they're just suddenly not there.

85
00:04:54,419 --> 00:04:56,219
And then you do the where is it?

86
00:04:56,249 --> 00:04:59,489
But also you wonder about the people
that created it, maintained it.

87
00:04:59,814 --> 00:05:00,924
And how they're doing.

88
00:05:00,994 --> 00:05:04,655
So also reach out to, to people, you
know, even to tell them, you know,

89
00:05:05,164 --> 00:05:06,575
great job on the work you've done.

90
00:05:06,754 --> 00:05:08,614
You know, we've relied
on it for a long time.

91
00:05:09,130 --> 00:05:10,780
I, I don't have a link in the show notes.

92
00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:16,719
And because I didn't think the source was
necessarily, I, I didn't wanna rely on it.

93
00:05:16,719 --> 00:05:22,129
But I did hear I'm gonna call it rumor
that somebody of a note in the current

94
00:05:22,129 --> 00:05:28,124
administration said that we should not be
thinking about relying upon GPS anymore.

95
00:05:28,729 --> 00:05:29,629
We should be doing something else.

96
00:05:30,379 --> 00:05:31,729
And that was a little frightening to me.

97
00:05:32,179 --> 00:05:34,819
So I think that that.

98
00:05:35,479 --> 00:05:41,029
Underlies the general notion that if
you're doing anything with us based

99
00:05:41,449 --> 00:05:47,819
information, data processes or anything
like that start thinking about a plan

100
00:05:47,819 --> 00:05:55,239
B just to be safe because a lot of this
stuff is I'm trying to think of the proper

101
00:05:55,239 --> 00:05:56,769
words without getting in too much trouble.

102
00:05:57,674 --> 00:05:58,444
It's less.

103
00:05:59,935 --> 00:06:02,215
Firm foundation than we thought.

104
00:06:03,115 --> 00:06:06,385
The some of the trade journals, you
know, I saw recently the professional

105
00:06:06,385 --> 00:06:10,135
surveyors, their trade journals were
talking about the impact on, you

106
00:06:10,135 --> 00:06:12,055
know, their industry in geospatial.

107
00:06:12,335 --> 00:06:13,655
And just saying, you know.

108
00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:16,820
This is going to be very, very difficult.

109
00:06:16,850 --> 00:06:18,260
How are we going to do this?

110
00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:20,700
So I know a lot of
people are making plans.

111
00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:25,680
I've seen ESI making announcements
saying, you know, this data is here.

112
00:06:26,020 --> 00:06:28,991
So you can also look at a lot of the ESRI.

113
00:06:29,485 --> 00:06:33,785
So in commercial UAV news the actual
name of the trade journal there was an

114
00:06:33,785 --> 00:06:38,165
editorial talking about basically that
drone technology they believe in the next

115
00:06:38,165 --> 00:06:40,655
decade is going to be, see, be seeing.

116
00:06:40,655 --> 00:06:42,575
It's on the path to commoditization.

117
00:06:42,905 --> 00:06:46,455
What this means is that technology
normally goes through different

118
00:06:46,455 --> 00:06:51,384
timelines and that the drone technology
industry is becoming a maturing

119
00:06:51,384 --> 00:06:55,264
industry where a lot of things
settle into just a few companies.

120
00:06:55,709 --> 00:06:56,699
This is exciting.

121
00:06:56,699 --> 00:06:59,979
You know, when I read it, because
again one of my first jobs was

122
00:06:59,979 --> 00:07:05,279
at a research company that was
at that middle period of UAVs.

123
00:07:05,409 --> 00:07:08,109
And I remember working with
commoditization and talking

124
00:07:08,109 --> 00:07:09,849
about it and working towards it.

125
00:07:10,129 --> 00:07:13,879
And it's a long effort that takes
time, but we, it looks like we

126
00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:15,524
will be here in the next decade.

127
00:07:16,444 --> 00:07:17,134
That's it for the names.

128
00:07:17,764 --> 00:07:22,024
So in the web corner, a geographer in
Pittsburgh, understanding that many

129
00:07:22,024 --> 00:07:27,184
people do not understand Pittsburgh, its
navigation, how it developed, anything

130
00:07:27,184 --> 00:07:33,784
like that, has gone ahead and made a map
book of 50 maps of Pittsburgh to basically

131
00:07:33,784 --> 00:07:39,984
explain the layered history of their city
immigration and the story behind the maps.

132
00:07:40,204 --> 00:07:41,584
And I thought this was a lot of fun.

133
00:07:41,584 --> 00:07:46,029
You know, map books are, are always fun
a. Graphic interpretation of your city.

134
00:07:46,309 --> 00:07:49,939
So if you've already always been
fascinated by a city like Pittsburgh

135
00:07:50,129 --> 00:07:55,059
which is, you know, weirdly laid out, I
know Joseph Kirsty has a small YouTube

136
00:07:55,059 --> 00:07:56,679
video where he talks about Pittsburgh.

137
00:07:56,909 --> 00:07:57,719
You know, it's pretty fun.

138
00:07:58,769 --> 00:08:00,509
She left out the most awesome part of it.

139
00:08:00,989 --> 00:08:02,249
The name maps.

140
00:08:03,504 --> 00:08:04,434
That's just a cool name.

141
00:08:10,614 --> 00:08:14,484
I'm here today with Jack Adams, who
is the, an account executive with

142
00:08:14,514 --> 00:08:16,824
NC Tech imaging or just NC Tech.

143
00:08:16,884 --> 00:08:17,094
Yeah.

144
00:08:17,094 --> 00:08:18,474
NC Tech Imaging, NC Tech.

145
00:08:18,474 --> 00:08:18,654
Either

146
00:08:18,654 --> 00:08:18,834
way.

147
00:08:18,864 --> 00:08:19,104
Yeah.

148
00:08:19,534 --> 00:08:20,404
Thanks for joining me today.

149
00:08:20,884 --> 00:08:21,634
Yeah, of course.

150
00:08:21,695 --> 00:08:22,205
Thanks for having me.

151
00:08:22,325 --> 00:08:24,385
And can you tell us a
little about NC Tech?

152
00:08:24,565 --> 00:08:24,895
Yeah.

153
00:08:24,895 --> 00:08:29,415
So NC Tech has been a. Around
about 15 years, we got our start

154
00:08:29,465 --> 00:08:31,925
developing camera systems for
the Google Street View program.

155
00:08:32,135 --> 00:08:36,925
And about five years ago made kind of
a strategic shift to start targeting

156
00:08:36,925 --> 00:08:41,925
other markets collecting the imagery
and collecting LIDAR data as well for

157
00:08:41,925 --> 00:08:47,255
local government and utilities and telco
companies and some other verticals.

158
00:08:47,585 --> 00:08:50,185
Now as you mentioned,
it's not a new company.

159
00:08:50,185 --> 00:08:53,275
Can you give us an idea of
kind of where you guys started?

160
00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:57,380
With that original kind of building
out systems to get where you

161
00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:58,460
are today with data collection?

162
00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:58,880
Yeah.

163
00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,710
So the company started in Edinburgh,
Scotland again about 15 years ago.

164
00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:09,090
And the idea was to create a low cost.

165
00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:14,860
But high quality camera system that
could be scaled across Google's

166
00:09:15,220 --> 00:09:16,960
pretty large street view program.

167
00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,960
So the idea was to build something,
you know, that was very scalable but

168
00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,790
could still produce high quality data.

169
00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,860
So yeah, that, that was kind of how the
idea was born and have been developing

170
00:09:26,860 --> 00:09:28,810
and, and making new camera systems sense.

171
00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:30,140
What are some of the use cases

172
00:09:30,140 --> 00:09:33,305
that you see, some of the customers that
you're, you know, seeing here at North

173
00:09:33,305 --> 00:09:37,100
Carolina GIS conference or at other places
utilizing this information for right

174
00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:37,370
now?

175
00:09:37,850 --> 00:09:39,050
Yeah, it's interesting.

176
00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:44,690
I think probably every person on earth
or every person you know, that, that.

177
00:09:45,020 --> 00:09:48,860
Has access to the internet, has probably
looked at Google Street View before.

178
00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:53,250
It's just kind of an innate desire
that if you're going somewhere or if

179
00:09:53,250 --> 00:09:56,040
you wanna see what a certain part of
the world looks like, you go to Google

180
00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,480
Maps, you look at the street view.

181
00:09:57,510 --> 00:10:01,170
'cause you want to feel like
you're there on the ground, right?

182
00:10:01,950 --> 00:10:06,210
So the use cases that we're seeing in
the public sector, for example, with

183
00:10:06,210 --> 00:10:11,310
asset management or with property
assessment kind of stems from that.

184
00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:17,810
Desire to want to be on the ground
looking at the assets that the city or the

185
00:10:17,810 --> 00:10:20,690
county or the state is responsible for.

186
00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:25,870
So really the biggest use cases we're
seeing are asset management use cases

187
00:10:25,870 --> 00:10:31,570
for things like street signs, urban
canopy and urban tree management,

188
00:10:32,650 --> 00:10:36,320
public utilities private utilities.

189
00:10:36,645 --> 00:10:42,455
Telecommunications drainage assets, you
know, really you, you name something that

190
00:10:42,455 --> 00:10:44,735
you can see from a street view image.

191
00:10:45,225 --> 00:10:50,405
We're able to then classify that
using the lidar or make measurements

192
00:10:50,405 --> 00:10:54,305
of it and, and take inventories
for your asset management programs.

193
00:10:54,545 --> 00:10:56,405
So kind of expanding beyond that.

194
00:10:56,735 --> 00:11:00,125
Do you have a lot of people who are
utilizing some of the 3D capabilities

195
00:11:00,125 --> 00:11:02,705
of having, you know, the stereo,
not, not stereo pair, but the

196
00:11:03,065 --> 00:11:06,215
overlapping images from the, the
cameras plus of course the lidar.

197
00:11:06,725 --> 00:11:07,685
Yeah, absolutely.

198
00:11:07,685 --> 00:11:10,400
And you know, it's one thing to
be able to see something in a,

199
00:11:10,445 --> 00:11:12,555
in an image which is nice, right?

200
00:11:13,155 --> 00:11:17,580
But then it's another thing to be able to
take measurements in a 3D space of that,

201
00:11:18,030 --> 00:11:19,290
you know, whatever you're looking at.

202
00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:23,820
It's also nice to include elevations and.

203
00:11:24,135 --> 00:11:27,125
You know, x, y, Z coordinates when
you're trying to locate something.

204
00:11:27,125 --> 00:11:30,615
So definitely a lot of use
cases for the point Cloud.

205
00:11:30,945 --> 00:11:35,535
And when you compare that point cloud
with the imagery and with the highly

206
00:11:35,535 --> 00:11:40,395
accurate GPS data that we're using, you're
getting accuracy spatial accuracies of

207
00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:42,435
less than 10 centimeters on this data.

208
00:11:42,665 --> 00:11:48,095
So you can have a high level of confidence
that, you know, when you locate something

209
00:11:48,095 --> 00:11:51,815
using our data, you know that it's
really close to where it is in real life.

210
00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,910
And of course that's kind of just to
set up the question of, so have you

211
00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:59,450
seen people using this with something
like geospatial creator or, or things

212
00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:02,060
like that that are coming from Google
that of course are taking advantage

213
00:12:02,060 --> 00:12:08,250
of the street view imagery and the the
location information in terms of 3D

214
00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:11,190
space to, you know, begin to use those

215
00:12:11,370 --> 00:12:12,240
AR capabilities?

216
00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:13,770
Yeah, absolutely.

217
00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:16,370
And that's kind of on
the cutting edge, right?

218
00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:18,650
So we're hearing from.

219
00:12:19,070 --> 00:12:25,210
You know, very progressive technology
based city programs that, you know,

220
00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:30,180
they want people to be able to
basically be on their streets in an

221
00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,520
ar sense without actually being there.

222
00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:36,810
So we're not seeing a ton of it
put into practice yet, but those

223
00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:39,660
are definitely avenues that, that
people are exploring currently.

224
00:12:40,035 --> 00:12:40,305
Okay.

225
00:12:40,815 --> 00:12:43,845
Is there anything you wanna say
about NC Tech and how people can

226
00:12:43,845 --> 00:12:46,675
find out more about the imagery
that you guys are generating?

227
00:12:47,005 --> 00:12:47,815
Yeah, absolutely.

228
00:12:47,845 --> 00:12:49,915
You can go to nc tech imaging.com.

229
00:12:50,485 --> 00:12:52,825
And there's plenty of information there.

230
00:12:52,855 --> 00:12:56,335
If you want to talk to someone
in sales, there's an inquiries

231
00:12:56,395 --> 00:12:57,935
email you can just send in.

232
00:12:58,005 --> 00:13:00,615
And, and someone will reach out
to you with more information.

233
00:13:01,065 --> 00:13:04,185
And then as far as you know, my
personal information goes, it's

234
00:13:04,185 --> 00:13:07,275
jackson.Adams@nctechimage.com.

235
00:13:07,525 --> 00:13:08,905
Feel free to shoot me an email.

236
00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:10,215
And yeah, we'd be happy to chat.

237
00:13:11,235 --> 00:13:11,265
Okay.

238
00:13:11,265 --> 00:13:11,775
Thanks, Jack.

239
00:13:11,805 --> 00:13:12,465
Yeah, thanks Jesse.

240
00:13:12,675 --> 00:13:13,095
Have a good day.

241
00:13:18,945 --> 00:13:23,065
I'm here today with Dale Loberg who
is with Bradshaw Consulting, who we've

242
00:13:23,065 --> 00:13:26,245
not talked to, I think in a couple
of North Carolina GIS conferences.

243
00:13:26,305 --> 00:13:27,205
Thanks for joining me today.

244
00:13:27,385 --> 00:13:27,925
Absolutely.

245
00:13:28,165 --> 00:13:31,615
And can you tell us a little bit what
your highlighting this time around?

246
00:13:31,645 --> 00:13:32,995
Okay, sure.

247
00:13:33,045 --> 00:13:36,445
BCS does a couple of different
things but it's all kind of

248
00:13:36,445 --> 00:13:37,825
relates to the same thing.

249
00:13:38,335 --> 00:13:42,505
So our real focus is on public
safety applications toward that

250
00:13:42,505 --> 00:13:43,825
and anything that supports that.

251
00:13:44,035 --> 00:13:49,045
So the first thing that we're highlighting
here would be the addressing application.

252
00:13:49,105 --> 00:13:53,015
So we have an enterprise
wide application to help.

253
00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:56,900
Maintain addresses, create addresses,
and make sure that we have really

254
00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,890
good information that can support
our public safety applications.

255
00:14:01,850 --> 00:14:06,380
Then on the public safety side what we
do primarily with EMS and Fire, but we

256
00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:08,240
have some applications for law as well.

257
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,130
But what we do is forecast where 9
1 1 calls are about to come from and

258
00:14:13,130 --> 00:14:16,910
then we help pre-position resources
so they're better able to respond.

259
00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,630
And then also help make better decisions
than what the normal computer-aided

260
00:14:21,630 --> 00:14:25,090
dispatch, the CAD software simply
looks for who's the closest unit.

261
00:14:25,570 --> 00:14:29,770
So we have a new feature now that we look
for what is the most appropriate unit.

262
00:14:29,950 --> 00:14:33,820
So looking at certification
levels, looking at capabilities.

263
00:14:33,905 --> 00:14:37,745
Of a resource to make sure that we're
getting the right resource that's gonna

264
00:14:37,745 --> 00:14:39,935
give us the best outcome for that patient.

265
00:14:40,085 --> 00:14:41,015
Let's start with the first one.

266
00:14:41,405 --> 00:14:44,695
Can you give us maybe a use case
where folks are, are utilizing

267
00:14:44,695 --> 00:14:45,895
it nowadays or currently?

268
00:14:46,015 --> 00:14:47,305
I probably should have Chris Harvey here.

269
00:14:47,305 --> 00:14:48,475
He's a real expert on that.

270
00:14:48,475 --> 00:14:49,555
He went off with a phone call.

271
00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:53,075
But that application is like I say,
an enterprise wide application.

272
00:14:53,075 --> 00:14:56,465
So it uses a webpage and you can set up.

273
00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,950
Because normally at the county level,
there are certain municipalities that

274
00:15:01,950 --> 00:15:05,820
will have addressing capabilities
or responsibilities within their

275
00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:10,980
jurisdiction, and so this allows you to
set permissions so that they can edit

276
00:15:11,070 --> 00:15:15,960
certain fields or certain data within
their jurisdiction, but not others.

277
00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:19,560
They can access that, but they
can't edit that, so it's all about.

278
00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:23,910
Controlling who has access to what
sorts of edits, tracking those edits.

279
00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:29,410
So it's a true enterprise application
from the time that you know,

280
00:15:29,410 --> 00:15:35,180
a new property development is
being proposed to get establish

281
00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:37,550
addresses for that to maintaining.

282
00:15:37,825 --> 00:15:41,905
Current addresses redressing
it handles all of those things.

283
00:15:42,445 --> 00:15:42,685
Okay.

284
00:15:43,135 --> 00:15:45,085
And then, of course, for
the public safety, can you

285
00:15:45,085 --> 00:15:46,675
give us a use case for that?

286
00:15:46,805 --> 00:15:49,655
Maybe an example of a municipality
that's currently using it.

287
00:15:50,045 --> 00:15:50,405
Okay.

288
00:15:50,455 --> 00:15:52,745
Yeah, there's that's
definitely my wheelhouse.

289
00:15:53,085 --> 00:15:55,965
So on the public safety side, we
have quite a few customers in North

290
00:15:55,965 --> 00:15:59,755
Carolina, since we're at NC Gs here
many of 'em are along the, I 85

291
00:15:59,755 --> 00:16:04,765
corridor from Mecklenburg County
union County where I'm from uses it.

292
00:16:04,865 --> 00:16:06,460
And we have some new customers now.

293
00:16:06,510 --> 00:16:08,380
Buncombe County just purchased it.

294
00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,200
But we have longtime
customers at Guilford County.

295
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:15,430
We have what we do for those, a lot of
those customers are all those customers.

296
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:20,020
I, I'll, I'll even use Union as an example
because that's where I live, and also.

297
00:16:20,325 --> 00:16:20,805
Work.

298
00:16:21,185 --> 00:16:24,605
So they forecast where calls
are going to be coming from.

299
00:16:25,425 --> 00:16:28,815
It's a routine that runs every five
minutes and we're generally outta

300
00:16:28,815 --> 00:16:31,155
the box about 75 to 80% accurate.

301
00:16:31,455 --> 00:16:33,345
People are always impressed by that.

302
00:16:33,345 --> 00:16:35,865
They, you know, they think
9 1 1 calls are random.

303
00:16:36,555 --> 00:16:40,230
I. But we actually find that with a
little bit of work and manipulating

304
00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:45,810
how we do that query, how we do that,
that analysis, we can get anywhere

305
00:16:45,810 --> 00:16:49,110
from 85 to sometimes over 90% accurate.

306
00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:54,300
So having that insight of where a call
is likely to be coming from gives you

307
00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:59,655
huge insight to be able to say, where
should we put resources that are more

308
00:16:59,655 --> 00:17:03,615
likely to address those calls within
a timely fashion that will actually

309
00:17:03,615 --> 00:17:05,025
make a difference in that patient's.

310
00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:10,020
Outcome or the outcome of that particular
event of a fire or, or whatever.

311
00:17:10,570 --> 00:17:14,690
'cause it's all about having the right
resources there at the right time.

312
00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,590
So we have, we can plan for
how to, resources can be there.

313
00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:22,440
And then also looking at utilizing
the resources in the best way.

314
00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,270
So Union, for instance, just split
up their their fleet for EMS.

315
00:17:26,270 --> 00:17:30,260
So we have BLS or basic life support
in addition to advanced life support.

316
00:17:30,260 --> 00:17:31,610
That's the traditional model.

317
00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:34,860
And so what that means is we have
two different certifications.

318
00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:40,050
So as calls come in, the dispatch
center looks at what is the call type,

319
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,610
who's able to address that call, and
try to preserve those resources that

320
00:17:44,610 --> 00:17:48,780
are the rarer advanced life support
capabilities for those calls that

321
00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:53,100
absolutely need that level of service,
and then use those other resources.

322
00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:55,320
So it may take a little
bit longer to get there.

323
00:17:56,005 --> 00:18:00,455
But we're getting the right resource to
that right patient so that we get the

324
00:18:00,455 --> 00:18:06,275
best possible outcome and preserve that
other resource so that when that cardiac

325
00:18:06,275 --> 00:18:10,905
arrest or something else comes in, they're
there to be able to, to solve that.

326
00:18:11,595 --> 00:18:14,890
Now, of course, they're municipalities
who are curious about this.

327
00:18:15,165 --> 00:18:18,385
Now that they've heard about more of
it can you tell us about how to get

328
00:18:18,385 --> 00:18:20,945
in touch with you or BCS in general?

329
00:18:21,195 --> 00:18:21,615
Okay.

330
00:18:21,945 --> 00:18:23,115
BCS is around.

331
00:18:23,185 --> 00:18:26,445
Actually, I would encourage folks
especially in North Carolina, talk

332
00:18:26,445 --> 00:18:28,665
to some of the other counties,
other municipalities around

333
00:18:28,695 --> 00:18:30,045
find out what they're using.

334
00:18:30,135 --> 00:18:33,555
A lot of times it is BCS, but
we're out of a South Carolina.

335
00:18:34,035 --> 00:18:37,805
So you can our website is bcs gis.com.

336
00:18:38,235 --> 00:18:42,525
We're on social media as BCS
also has high performance EMS

337
00:18:42,625 --> 00:18:45,115
and also as dynamic fire risk.

338
00:18:45,245 --> 00:18:48,305
So there's lots of ways to find
us if you want to learn more.

339
00:18:48,965 --> 00:18:51,585
Anything else you wanna highlight
for the company or other products?

340
00:18:51,735 --> 00:18:53,025
Well, there's always things I can say.

341
00:18:53,025 --> 00:18:54,405
You gimme a microphone and I can talk.

342
00:18:55,785 --> 00:18:58,235
But now that's we have some
really great folks, you know,

343
00:18:58,235 --> 00:18:59,705
we have consulting in our name.

344
00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:03,265
We don't do much of
true consulting anymore.

345
00:19:03,325 --> 00:19:06,835
It's, it's really the products that we
focus on and customizing those products

346
00:19:06,835 --> 00:19:08,815
because we want you to own your data.

347
00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:10,795
We want you to own your application.

348
00:19:11,255 --> 00:19:12,845
We want you to own the process.

349
00:19:12,905 --> 00:19:14,675
You know, you don't have
to come to us for that.

350
00:19:14,725 --> 00:19:18,295
We want to empower you to do that
because that's, customers can do great

351
00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:19,855
things when you give 'em good products.

352
00:19:20,215 --> 00:19:20,455
Okay.

353
00:19:20,605 --> 00:19:21,265
Thank you very much.

354
00:19:21,295 --> 00:19:21,715
Thank you.

355
00:19:22,130 --> 00:19:22,850
On the events corner.

356
00:19:22,850 --> 00:19:26,840
As always, if you are interested in any of
these events or others, go check them out.

357
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,190
Big 10 GIS Conference 2025 is taking
place April 11th, and that'd be

358
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:32,750
virtual so you can get to it anywhere.

359
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:38,210
Horizons 2025 Beyond Boundaries
will be taking place April 27th

360
00:19:38,210 --> 00:19:40,580
through the 29th in Denver, Colorado,

361
00:19:40,940 --> 00:19:44,090
and the Louisiana remote.

362
00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:49,290
Sensing and GIS workshop will be taking
place in the near future in May, on

363
00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:51,390
the sixth of the eighth in Baton Rouge.

364
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,680
Of course, if you want us to add
your event to the podcast, send us

365
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,360
email to podcast@veryspatial.com.

366
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,260
If you'd like to reach us individually, I
could be reached at sue@veryspatial.com.

367
00:20:00,770 --> 00:20:00,920
I'm

368
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,300
barb@veryspatial.com.

369
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:04,700
You can reach me atFrank@veryspatial.com,

370
00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:06,270
and I'm available at kindaspatial.

371
00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:08,810
And of course, if you would like to
find any of our contact information,

372
00:20:08,810 --> 00:20:10,970
hit over to very spatial.com/contacts.

373
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:12,890
As always,

374
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:13,820
we're the folks.

375
00:20:13,820 --> 00:20:14,570
from very spatial.

376
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:15,320
Thanks for listening.

377
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,640
We'll see you in a couple weeks.

378
00:20:38,805 --> 00:20:40,305
Get in the car drive really far.

379
00:20:40,725 --> 00:20:42,075
It don't even matter.

380
00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:45,345
Long as you hit hanging with
me, we can go see decept.

381
00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:49,575
Good company.

382
00:20:53,805 --> 00:20:56,205
Yeah, we can hop in with the top off.

383
00:20:56,565 --> 00:20:58,845
Grab a clothes express
called say lock Killing.

384
00:20:58,845 --> 00:20:59,595
These fit sticking.

385
00:20:59,595 --> 00:21:01,395
Really cute picture going the phone.

386
00:21:01,395 --> 00:21:02,050
We say, I know.

387
00:21:03,910 --> 00:21:04,840
The world it ups.

388
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:07,330
Oh, you feeling more than, okay.

389
00:21:07,330 --> 00:21:08,320
Nothing getting in the way.

390
00:21:08,325 --> 00:21:09,325
This is how I wanna spend

391
00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:12,965
all good

392
00:21:17,505 --> 00:21:17,725
and

393
00:21:20,835 --> 00:21:21,525
next to me.

394
00:21:39,815 --> 00:21:45,430
Alright, come my friends by my
side, eh, don shining bright.

395
00:21:45,610 --> 00:21:45,970
Yeah.

396
00:21:45,970 --> 00:21:49,265
Not the lift to do, but have a good time.

397
00:21:54,655 --> 00:21:56,935
After we cry and say, I love you,

398
00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:15,895
the.

399
00:22:16,915 --> 00:22:19,510
Don't here with me.

400
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:20,260
We can go see.

401
00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:27,370
Yeah.

402
00:22:27,370 --> 00:22:27,430
Yeah.

403
00:22:32,025 --> 00:22:45,830
C-O-N-P-A-N-Y-G double O-D-C-O-M-P-A-Y-G
double O-C-P-A-N-Y-G double CAY.

404
00:22:46,245 --> 00:22:47,230
Now what does that spell?

405
00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:49,710
Good, good, good, g.

406
00:22:57,910 --> 00:22:58,870
And one more time.