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Josh (10:33.951)
Warren Phillips, welcome to Reversible.

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warren (10:40.238)
Amen. Let's do it, brother.

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warren (10:44.924)
Yeah, it's an honor to be here, Josh. Can't wait.

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Josh (10:47.103)
I'm really looking forward to this one. Here's the thing. Toxins are everywhere. Toxins are a mess. We all hear about detoxing and talks at this and talks at that. You're known as non -toxic dad. But I gotta know, where did this whole thing start? This non -toxic dad persona.

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warren (11:04.252)
Yeah, I'll give you the short version, but it's still gonna take about three or four minutes to get there. Because it's an interesting story. I didn't choose to be non -toxic dad or do any of this. I was a country boy living in the middle of, grew up in a trailer, just wanted to play football in college and I wound up quitting that and doing javelin, became an all -American thrower through that through.

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Josh (11:08.803)
Buckle in.

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warren (11:30.968)
undergraduate and then I went to graduate school and continued chemistry and geology because I became, I was part of the nineties, whether it was good or bad, I was the reduced recycle reuse generation. If you're a nineties person, you understand the different mantras we were told, it was AIDS, it was the brains on drugs.

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Josh (11:48.671)
I don't know what do.

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warren (11:53.948)
And it was reduce, recycle, and use. That was like some of the big topics I was raised by a television, if you will. And so I did want to clean up the environment. And I really loved the outdoors and geology and rocks. So I went up getting my master's degree at the University of Montana and through the chemistry and geology department collaborative program and just out there, right? Got an environmental consulting.

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gig in Missoula, Montana. You remember Brad Pitt, A River Runs Through It, another 90s movie. So that's what brought me to Montana. And I wound up cleaning up hazardous waste for a living, cleaning up the environment, identifying areas of toxicity that were hurting Mother Earth and people, human health and the environment, we called it. And so as I traveled that path for eight years, I was exposing my body to all kinds of crazy toxins, mercuric oxide, which is what they used to put on grains to make it, you know,

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antimicrobial, antibacterial, antipest because mercury kills everything. You coat the grain in mercury, you know, it's good, you know. That's why they put it in vaccines so that you can just jab all day and pull out because it just kills everything. You can keep it's anti -everything, right? Federal -used defensive sites, we did abandoned mine cleanup, so a lot of heavy metal exposure. And fast -forwarding through that, I started developing this symptomatology eye twitching.

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Josh (13:11.103)
Hmm.

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warren (13:21.372)
anxiety at work, just overwhelmed like little panic attacks. And I was at the best part in my life. Like I had strong spirituality, strong friend group. I wasn't even dating anyone. Like I didn't have any life was good. It was easy. But these symptoms came and they just kept compounding getting worse to the point where I had to quit my job, sell my house, move into my parents basement full of mold, got sicker.

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didn't know what was wrong with me, 25 years old, no hopes of marriage, family, all the things we want in the nuclear family, and none of that was gonna be possible for me. And then, one of those things, and I think women know this mostly, it's in your gut, I knew that it was those toxins that were caused, this was weird stuff, all the 10 different medical doctors and psychiatrists and therapists and physical therapists, it was all in my head for the main part, and I knew that wasn't true.

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Josh (14:09.309)
Mm -hmm.

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warren (14:14.268)
knowing the scientific method, there had to be a reason I was sick, went to a local medical doctor, here's a effects or here's pain meds, you'll be on one or two medications, the rest of you will be, you're lucky most people are on three or four, how long will I be on this the rest of your life? Can you believe they say that? Don't say that to me. You know, at 25, I wanted to, I wasn't sure if I wanted to stick around, I'm a man of faith, I was, you know, maybe too much so.

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at the time, but I just definitely knew that there was a plan for my life and that hope and having good family and friends and giving credit to all the people who've surrounded me and say, Warren, you're going to be okay. You're going to get healthy someday. And it was toxins that was causing a lot of my health issues. And once I've learned, identified that, and it took me a while, you know, it wasn't like just like when you're watching my channel or you're listening to this podcast, it's not like immediately you get it, but the thoughts.

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The data starts coming in and I'm like, yeah, this is definitely what's making me sick. Start running the right testing, traveling all over, you know, blessed that I could live with my parents, but I had to get out of their moldy basement, got an apartment full of volatile organic compounds, even though I didn't know it, had to clean it, you know, off gas it, you know, do all those things. I actually chose a relatively safe, because I was worried about mold, right? It was four years old, so, but still there was volatile organic compounds. I did.

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Josh (15:31.505)
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No carpet in it, like I tried everything.

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So this is what put me on the path and the journey and it inspired me so much that so many people didn't know this information and we started training health practitioners for 18 years, causational strategies being that toxins are a causational issue for a lot of sickness and dis -ease in the world. And and gut problems like we have here, it's a massive root cause of all kinds of gut issues. I mean, you destroy your microbiome, you're destroying who you are for the most part. You're...

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what, 10 times the amount of bacteria than you are cells and that interacts with your hormones, speaks to your genetics. I mean, you're talking crazy stuff, right? And then you go in and put glyphosate in your gut and destroy the very thing that makes you human. I mean, come on, you know there's unintended consequences that are wreaking havoc. I'll tell you a story about the DNRC out here. I had a nice talk with them wanting to spray glyphosate and she actually agreed with me and I got her to use a different chemical in my area. So...

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So all fast forwarding through all that, I never became non -toxic dad until, and people would give me stamps, worn, approved, because I'm very anal about how I live my life, because I had to be. So you don't necessarily need to go to the extent that I did, but I enjoy this. I'm not fearful of toxins. At this point, at one point I was, but I just like choosing a non -toxic lifestyle and teaching other people how to do it. Someone challenged me to do it.

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and I didn't realize the impact social media could have. I'd love telling doctors and health practitioners they should do social media. It was never me. I'm not afraid of the camera. I'm almost 50 years old. Like, I don't care. You know, I love everybody. You know, you don't like me? Good. I'm glad you have an opinion. At least you're strong enough, you know, person to let me know how you feel. That's great. Good for you. You know, um...

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Josh (17:23.871)
Heheheheh

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warren (17:32.572)
So, but when I did this non -toxic death thing, it really started seeing impact and I'm like 1 .2 million views. Like this is a great way to get the message out. Way more even so than, you know, doing the doctor thing. So that's kind of how I landed here. And I, my life got restored. I have that good story, right? That, you know, I have kids, I have a family, I'm married and life and health is good, you know? And I want everyone to experience that good life because it's, I think choosing a life.

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Josh (17:49.951)
Mm -hmm.

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A non -toxic lifestyle can really, really impact your health and it will impact other areas of your life and bring more joy, hope, love to the world. It really is all interconnected and this is kind of the lane I'm running in.

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Mm.

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It's really interesting, we get into these toxins, we talk about them, we're talking about flooring, these VOCs, these volatile organic compounds, we're talking about sprays, what's in the air, what's in our water, what's in our food.

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it really does become sort of overwhelming. So before we dive too into the nitty -gritty of the stuff that makes them want to jump off a cliff, let's talk about this transition really quickly. Because obviously you get the message out and say non -toxic. Non -toxic is very important. These chemicals can cause disease, they cause sickness. I specialize in Crohn's and colitis and taking the toxic inventory of your home, of the perfumes you use, the deodorants you use, the toothpaste, taking the toxic inventory of these ingredients is very eye -opening. But it can be very

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shocking to the modern day human being who lives in North America and is surrounded by all these products. Where's the first place someone can even look to start? Because it can be... I developed orthorexia going back to school when I was becoming a nutritionist. I looked at the food and what's in it, what's in our water. I'm like I'm not going to eat or drink anything. I'm going to become an erratarium and I will starve to death peacefully of my own accord because it's my choice to not eat this garbage. So where can people start before they dry themselves with a nuthouse?

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warren (19:26.268)
Yeah, you do not want to go there, but I get it. And you just, it's easy to say, but then it's harder to understand, I guess, but you do have to have a balanced approach. You know, certain toxins are not going to cause as big of a problem. I think it's fun to get rid of them, you know, as you move along, right? And do the easy ones, the low hanging fruit in your life, like get rid of your air fresheners, just the easy ones, right? And yes, you're addicted to them. Yes, they designed you to be addicted to them.

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I'm going to go to bed.

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warren (19:53.948)
get over it, it causes neural inflammation, inflammation in your body, gut inflammation. If you wanna get well, you have to take action, right? And what I like to, I'll go down a couple different roads here in the psychological path, but if you notice a language pattern saying, if you say that this is too overwhelming, I'm gonna do nothing, then you've made it too big, right?

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So you need to break it down and make it small. You've overwhelmed an over overwhelmed brain, you're overflowing. So your brain is preserving you, your body is preserving you by saying, I'm just gonna do nothing. Right? And that's, it's your excuse to get out of the responsibility of it because you really can't handle it. So you gotta help your brain wrap around it and say, I'm just gonna remove one toxin a month and I'm gonna make it fun. We're gonna do it as a family. I'm gonna get everyone involved. They're gonna help me. And you start to...

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break it down in chunks so that it's not overwhelming. Maybe you're still using, you know, not the best, you're using unscented laundry detergent, but it still has some toxins in it, right? And you're gonna finish that up so you don't wanna do that because you're afraid of the money. And you know, like, I stopped making those decisions. I just go now because it makes it actually easier for me. But if you break it down and create a list and just knock things out one at a time,

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And the best place to start would be your room, your bedroom. And in a great way, you know, some of the things I would do in there, if I, you know, put an air filter in there, open a window at night, you know, start switching over to organic, you know, linens and, and, or organic bamboo, or at least something that doesn't have pesticides and off gassing. But the major thing in your bedroom is going to be if you have magazines laying around that are off gassing VOCs, or if you, you know, you're sleeping with your head right next to an outlet.

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Right? You'd least want to be four feet away from that. Like just some of the go on my channel and you can watch all those things. Don't get overwhelmed and say, Hey, I'm going to do this, this, this and this. I can do this in one hour. I can move my bed a foot. I can, my mattress isn't that old, but I'll get an organic cover for over top of it in case there's some VOCs and it'll, you know, get, give you some distance from that. The next time you buy one, I'll go buy a $1 organic mattress instead of a $4 ,000 toxic one.

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warren (22:17.084)
because organic mattresses have come way down. When I bought my first one, I had to save up. I even got a discount and it still cost me like six grand, right? You can get a better mattress now for 1500. Actually, I bought out of California. It was called Natura back in the day, a company just north of, south of Toronto. Cause there's none of this existed when I was sick. Like the options are just immense. So the difference between...

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Josh (22:24.327)
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warren (22:44.348)
then and now is that you can make these small decisions. You can start getting your health back. It can become fun, not orthorexic. You don't want to ever live in fear. And I get it. Like there's a point in my life where my limbic lobe would trick me into anxiety and I would get symptoms when I shouldn't have been getting them based just strictly on fear and cortisol. So you can't fear the toxins, but you need to definitely start avoiding them if you want to knock down that inflammation.

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Neural inflammation, especially Crohn's colitis, that's inflammatory, also triggers autoimmune. My mom had colitis. She had breast cancer and lung cancer over the years. And she was the first, she was the person I used to make fun of, right? And then I became that person, right? So, I mean, I get both sides of it and it's a journey. I shared this today with someone on the phone. It's like, I'm still learning and growing and being non -toxic dad.

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is making me better because I'm deep diving even more into topics and I'm learning more and I'm integrating into my life. The non -toxic dad is weekly integrating new strategies into my health. And I have a list almost like my list for the year of things that I want to do to create a more non -toxic lifestyle for me. Like I'm getting, I've been putting off getting my, I've tried everything, ballooning, facial, cranial to open up my nasal passages. But the reality is I need surgery.

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The last thing I want to do is go under, get anesthesia. That's toxic, right? But I'm doing the research and I'll do a video on this. I'm going to get the safest anesthesia, this anesthesia that comes out the quickest, the pain meds that I need them that are almost non -toxic that you can get. So I'm going to put that little protocol together for myself. But I know that's part of a non -toxic lifestyle is getting oxygen into my body, right? But I've been putting that off for years. So I create a list, like I want a better water system. Like I want this, I want that, but I just put it on a board.

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and I knock it off, but I'm intentional about what I'm doing. I don't live in fear. My water that I have is the best water. I'm strong. I do a lot of things right. So I know I'm kind of going off on tangents, but that's really where my head's at when it comes to choosing a non -toxic lifestyle because I'm working on it on a daily and weekly basis. Just break it down and do the same. Don't try to do it all at once. You're alive and breathing right now. Thank God for that. You're still gonna wake up tomorrow fine.

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warren (25:06.908)
But if you want to wake up more healthy, you want to sleep better, then maybe start knocking some of these causational toxins out. I mean, there's no denying the research.

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Josh (25:15.199)
Let's talk about some of that research. I think right now our listeners are probably thinking, okay, so toxins are bad. They're kind of everywhere. It might be easy enough to do, but why should I bother? You said, yeah, they make you sick and yeah, they might contribute to disease. Let's dive into some of this research. Let's dive into some of these things where you can unequivocally, unquestionably, without a shadow of a doubt say these are the most common horrible toxins and here's why it's so important to remove.

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warren (25:41.724)
Yeah, I mean, the nice thing, there's some great information that I've been researching on gerontogens, or gerontogens actually. It's kind of hard to pronounce, but gerontogens. Yeah, so these are all environmental toxin chemicals that age you at the cellular level, right? And cause inflammation. So you could research that and read the papers that are on gerontogens and see all the supporting literature.

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Sounds like a dinosaur, yeah.

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warren (26:10.684)
on how they age you at the cellular level. Because they're causing genetic snips and problems and inflammation and cell membrane distortion, your cells go, wait a minute, this is a bad cell, I need to create a new one, right? And there's only so many times your cells can replicate and once they get to the end of their life, they have a senescent cell, which is an old cell that does nothing, it puts outside of kind reactions, which is inflammation, and it sits inside of your body as an old cell, right?

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The more toxins you have more old cells you have more old cells you have the more you age not only at the biological level but on a physical level and then the more inflammation that you have because you're not healing you're not replicating a bunch of old cells right and that is kind of an easy way to explain it you don't want to be a bag of old cells and triggered by environmental toxins, of course toxins also Stop protein production, you know the anti -aging proteins like keratin and elastin right and oh

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Every pathway you can imagine in your body is disrupted by a toxin. Most cancers, certain cancer types in general, are triggered by environmental toxins. That's why we have a cancer epidemic. Certain toxins shown in the literature to trigger diabetes. It's called toxin -induced diabetes. I think there's another name for it in the literature too, but I've been reading this stuff for over the years. Again, I...

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You know, I'm just going off of recall here. You can talk about magnetic fields and electric fields, right? Okay, you know, they say that they're safe. There's literature saying it does impact your melatonin levels in your sleep, right? Ever since I've shut off electric fields, I shut down my electricity in my house, I did that this year, right? So this hasn't been something that Non -Toxic Dad has been doing for 15 years. I read the literature.

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heard what people said, really looked it up. Is this going to be worth my investment of time, effort, energy on a daily basis? Because I have children, three kids, a wife, you know, businesses, like all that stuff. But I saw the literature and I'm like, this is worth it. I saw the levels. I did the measurements in my home. I'm like, this has got to go. I'm sleeping so much better, right? Because of that. What else affects your sleep? Of course, caffeine can lower your melatonin levels. There's lots of other things that are causational, but the missing link for me,

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warren (28:32.316)
And I just tried it because I could. And it made a big difference. But the science backed up that decision. But then you can go to stainless steel pans. I talk about that. I have some 18 .0 stuff. Hard to find. It's not that great quality. But is 18 .10 really that toxic? Is it going to give you a little bit of nickel poisoning? Yeah, a little bit. If you're storing an acidic sauce in it all the time, or you're just railing on it with another piece of stainless steel,

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Yeah, you're gonna get some poisoning, but if you do it right, not a major one, you really need to shift. You don't need to go find junky 18 zero stainless steel, just use wooden spoons, right? So there's varying levels of, but I'm gonna move them, I'll just keep moving them safer stuff, right? I'll probably get rid of my 18 zero stainless eventually, but I have it, but it's not a big one you need to throw out. But you do need to throw out your Teflon, right? Everybody knows that, right? Class action lawsuits, forever chemicals, it's just nasty for your body.

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So there's easy decisions you can make and I always look at, I get to upgrade, right? I get to upgrade to some new stuff, I save up for it and I make it fun. So I know I kind of went off another topic there but as far as the science is concerned, I mean, you can do your own research on this stuff as well. You don't have to take my word for it or Josh's word for it. The root cause of a lot of disease is linked back to toxicity. They don't...

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Everyone who's going to say it's okay is like, oh, they researched it and need 10 times more that, right? Or a hundred times or a thousand times more, right? But if you add up all the toxins, the thousands that you're getting at that small level every day, you're hitting that threshold, right? So it's easy to make excuse not to do the right thing or to continue the economic engine of toxicity with even sugars toxic, even, you know, one drink exceeds even the...

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Josh (30:11.839)
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NIH levels, National Institute of Health or let's quote another, the CDC, they don't trust them either, but they even say 50 grams of sugar is too much, right? And you'll have that in one drink. Your body just can't handle that level. It's not designed in nature to handle that amount of sugar. So your body adapts, right? It starts jacking up your insulin. Now you're whipping your cell membranes and you're gonna cause diabetes and some people are, you know, plus gut microbiome issues and...

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all that stuff. So, you know, toxicity is just a root cause. Cancer in children, I mean, we can just go on and on, right? There's no excuse not to, you know, the world's gonna do what the world does. They're gonna drive their economic engine. The only thing we can do, and people don't believe this, but I see it happening each and every day. We do vote with our dollars. There's all these new products. All these companies are becoming accountable. Transparency.

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One thing COVID did and even with all that stuff is consumers want transparency. They don't believe anyone anymore and that's caused companies to be transparent and that's been wonderful. So we're in a really, really good place to live a non -toxic lifestyle and to find answers.

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Josh (31:33.823)
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Josh (31:43.679)
Let's talk about some of these toxins in the gut. You mentioned they affect the gut microbiome and as our listeners know, anytime your gut is going to be imbalanced, it creates this dysbiosis, this bacterial imbalances, which leads to inflammation and toxins being produced even by your gut. But can you walk us through some of the most common toxins that people are consuming they may not be aware of that are harming their gut?

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warren (32:06.234)
Yeah, I mean, glyphosate is going to be like my number one, right? And it has all those different, the chikamate pathway and all the crazy science that goes along with it. Stephanie Seneff from MIT, you can look her up, really makes this clear. It opens up, some literature has shown that the gut -brain connection makes your brain swish cheese and opens it up for the blood -brain barrier, for toxins to go across. You've probably discussed that on this.

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with a lot of your experts on that. So glyphosate's gonna be one of them that you wanna avoid. Anything that's gonna be really pro -inflammatory. I think there's a certain level of gluten you can handle, but if you're having inflammation as it is, I think my daughter's over there crying, my little two -year -old. I started late in life because I was so sick. No one wanted to marry me, bro. I was stinky, but I married a Canadian, so at least she saw my heart.

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Josh (32:52.679)
If you need a minute, you can...

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Josh (33:02.591)
Very forgiving people, yeah.

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warren (33:04.764)
and had hope for all this. I had this red light on, it's making me hot too. So too much gluten is gonna cause a lot of gut inflammation, so you really wanna cut back on that. Is gluten bad in and of itself? I think the glyphosate in the grain is worse than the gluten. Dr. Tom O 'Brien, a good friend of mine, he would say no gluten ever. It's just always toxic, but I think we can handle some gluten, just not a lot of these different gluten strains.

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Uh, you know, obviously pesticides, uh, herbicides, you know, you, they're going to wreck your gut microbiome like crazy. I mean, they kill pests. Um, so you put a pesticide into a bacteria that that's going to do it. And then I'm going to offend everybody, especially in Canada, alcohol just trashes your microbiome. We think it's safe. We think it's good for you, but it's, it's a class one carcinogen. Uh, you want to change your life fast, get rid of that toxin. It's going to be hard for you because it's, it's, you're, you're shamed.

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for it, but think about that. Someone's shaming you. Anyone who shames me, I just call them out and say, you know, we're not friends anymore, right? Because I personally just don't accept that at this point in my life. Like, I'm not gonna be victimized or, you know, anyone. And I wouldn't do that to anyone else. Like, you're all vegan, great. You're all meat, great, you know? Just live your life and I'm gonna support you and love you no matter what you're doing. So if someone says, you know, I'm alcohol -free.

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Come on just one and they get you to drink and guilt and shame you to poisoning your body right and destroying your microbiome Why have a glass of wine when I'm in Italy? Yeah, I will I'll accept that toxin right because it's gonna be an experience that I feel that will you know be fun for me, but 99 % of the time I'm now alcohol -free I was like 75 % and I was 50 % but as I aged as I lived out this non -toxic lifestyle right and I

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Josh (34:36.159)
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saw the science, there's just no denying it, right? It's another very, very solid science. Finally, because of great influencers out there that have made this a public message, it will destroy your microbiome, right? And you wonder why you still have a gut issue. Are you still drinking alcohol, right? I still have pain and joint inflammation. You're still drinking alcohol. I can now crawl around with my daughter on the ground. And I was doing everything right. Alcohol was the missing inflammation that I was still holding on to.

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you know, even for a little bit, you know, and I've been pretty much alcohol free for the last two years, right? Just very rarely. Now it's like, I haven't even touched it. I think I've had half a glass of wine in the last nine months, right? And I don't think there's anything wrong with like sipping on a half glass of wine for your body weight. Just like, if you're doing that, you know, once a month, you know, God bless you. You know, you're crushing life. So that's a big one. And I could, you know, obviously if something comes to mind that is,

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Yeah, it's interesting you bring up alcohol. I did an episode, it was actually episode 18, to drink or not to drink, that is the question. And we went over alcohol and truly the poison. What's the number one thing we use alcohol for? Detoxification or sanitization, which effectively kills microbes. Now, what's really interesting is your body, right at kind of like the stomach to small intestine, you have these T -L -R.

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four receptors, these toll -like receptor number four. These guys stand guard and get to decide what does or doesn't come in. It's actually something Tom O 'Brien, I love that you guys are friends. We had him on the show twice now. He's just absolutely brilliant. And he talks about how gluten actually opens up these pathways, creating leaks in the gut. Well, what happens, because your body tries to get rid of it, it creates leaky gut to flush things out, right? Like putting your thumb over a hose to wash down the driveway, to power wash. When gluten comes in, these TLR4 receptors,

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at the stomach, small intestine open to bring water in to flush the stuff out of your body and creates leaky gut. But on the other hand, when you consume alcohol, these receptors actually slow down digestion because they don't want, it's like your body recognizes alcohol is so bad and so poisonous and so detrimental to your microbiome that it actually slows down the absorption of alcohol. So it can absorb through your stomach and small intestine into your blood, which it gets to your brain.

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Your body literally goes, I'd rather you get to my brain than my gut microbiome. So I'm gonna put you here instead. That's my interpretation of that data. And I'm like, that's how toxic alcohol really is for us.

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It is, you know, I mean it would, yeah. So I mean gluten's bad too, like I get it, but you know, alcohol is just a smoking gun in our health and everyone that stops drinking, like oh my gosh, the change in their life, it's so quick, right?

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It's just one of those things. So, you know, start with alcohol. Like I've never said that before on any podcast. You know, I do love identifying and helping people remove toxins in our life. But I personally have experienced a big lift in my health from a guy that's the non -toxic dad, you know, for the last 18 years, you know, I've lived this way and alcohol still at this point made a major shift. I feel like I'm getting healthier and healthier as you rebuild cells, as you do say intermittent fasting.

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which I'm sure you've talked about for gut healing and resting your digestion and fasting and killing off those old cells that we talked about that gerontogens cause senescent cells so your body can remove those and you can get healthy young cells again, right? And so there's a lot of these stem -stell fasting strategies that you can do. But that's brilliant. You know, I've never heard that before, so I got to learn something, Josh. Thank you. I will. Everyone should.

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Josh (38:44.639)
Well, there you go. You have to go back and listen to episode 18. 100%. It's really interesting. I don't know if you have a course on this. I think something that would be so valuable to the public. I've been following your content for a very long time and watching the videos about this is toxic food. That's a toxic food. I don't know if you do this, Warren, if you have one yet.

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But if you don't have like a beginner's course to detoxifying their home and their life, 100 % you should build one out. I think it would absolutely blow up the internet. There's a little business tip for you I'll send you the bill for the consulting later.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't have a course, but I did start a do a docu -series with Dr. Pedram Shojai. Has it ever been on your show, The Urban Monk?

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Yeah, he's really close with Tom O 'Brien, Mark Hyman, everybody. I mean, he's a New York, I don't know if he's New York Times bestselling author, but he's definitely been on Dr. Oz and run those circles in the health space. So we decided to educate people on toxins in their home because if your home's toxic, you're gonna be challenged to get well.

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You know, so we do talk about the bedroom. We talk about mold. We talk about EMF. We talk about cleaners and all that. So we hired a film crew. We went into homes, people with stories, people that are sick, people that got well. And that's actually releasing. I believe we set a date May 1st. So we can, I think you can register for it probably now homesickhome .com. So that's going to be great education, but of course sounds like a great idea. You know, I'll put that on my goals, you know, for the next.

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It might be 2025. Maybe it'll be 2024. I mean, you know, I got a lot of content. I could just use AI as they say now. Everything's use AI, use AI. Crazy.

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There you go. Well, I think it'd be so beneficial because all this information can seem so overwhelming and just having such a clear, concise way in order to do this. So let's sort of build a course together right now, Warren. First thing somebody does, and I know you mentioned start in the bedroom, start with your perfume, start with the alcohol. Let's build a quick like one, two, three, four, five.

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Let's go through the rooms that are typically the most toxic and the most toxic, say top three things you see in those rooms. So our listeners can go right now and start taking care of that.

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Well, I'm going to try to do it this way. I have five pillars to live a non -toxic lifestyle. And this is honestly what I did as an environmental consultant, when we would assess the impact it would have on human health in the environment or even human health. And we'd have to protect ourselves if there was an inhalation risk. So there's toxic inhalation. What am I inhaling that's?

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Making me sick and we kind of so let's start there. What are some of the top toxins never done this before? But if you if you look at it fragrance is going to be the most toxic thing in your home that you're inhaling That's causing instant neural inflammation and inflammation in your body. It's carcinogenic. It's hormone mimicking It runs with a bunch of other toxins potentially another hundred to a thousand different chemicals in a fragrance So this is this stuff should be outlawed, right?

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of science on it. Look it up. It says it that fragrances are notorious, right? This is in literature. They use the word notorious when it comes to fragrances. So just go and everything in your house. If you did this one thing in red for Parfum, which you probably will see in Canada or fragrance, right? And they'll have essential oils. You'll see green washing. You'll see an essential oil in there, but you also see Parfum fragrance.

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perfume fragrance, remove that from your house and your hair care and every single product and slowly rip that out. It's going to be in your dryer sheets. It's going to be in your... They put it in freaking garbage bags, right? I mean, it's everywhere. It's ubiquitous. So if you can get rid of that toxic inhalation thing, you're in a much better place. You're removing one of the biggest movers inside of your health. And obviously,

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If you have mold in your home, watch Homesick Home. Because if you're inhaling a mycotoxin, which is what a mold produces, a mycotoxin is like anthrax. It's a toxin produced from a living thing. And when these molds fight inside your home, especially specific molds, they put out these toxic mycotoxins that just destroy your body, your microbiome, your brain, cause massive amounts of inflammation.

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30 -some percent of people can't even detox them, so they just keep firing. It's like having a shotgun fired in your body all day long, every day, just wreaking havoc in every organ, every tissue, every cell. So you really need to... There's no safe levels of... Well, I guess there's lower levels that you can handle, but mycotoxins are just a big one, and you're actually inhaling them. And that would actually go over to toxic absorption too, which is the third pillar.

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because you can absorb these toxins through your eye gate. So toxins can, so if I'm in a hazardous waste cleanup, it's not just putting a mask on, but certain toxins can get in my eyes. And mycotoxins would be one of those that can actually absorb through your eye. So toxic inhalation, so we gave you two, toxic ingestion. What are we eating? What are we eating? Putting on our skin, everything you put on your skin, you eat.

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and it gets into your bloodstream, it's gonna get into your gut, it's gonna get into your lymphatic system, just like if you're eating it. So this is where the organic food comes in, it is foundational, at least you're not, I mean you're gonna get a little bit of residual glyphosate, you're gonna get a little bit of residual pesticides, and herbicides, there's no way to completely limit that today, but the amount you're gonna get is gonna be so much less. The nice thing about Calgary and Canada, there's a lot of regenerative farms popping up, support those regenerative farms.

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Support which support the microbiology just like your gut of the earth because how you know Josh, you know this That's why you're so passionate about it. The gut might be more important than the brain, right? I mean, there's all kinds of crazy Connections here and the energy and the bugs that you have like the parasites like all of it some parasites you actually need That's a funny one But it support these regenerative farmers, you know know that you're doing a good thing for the environment and the earth I was in the reduced recycle reuse

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And there's so much green movement, environmental movement. It's just money making and not really helping the planet. They pretend that it's helping the planet to get good hearted people like you and I and everyone else. They think we're helping the planet because I believe in a healthy planet. You screw with Mother Nature, she's going to screw with you and she's pissed. We're not being very nice to this planet. We're killing the microbiome and the microbiology. We're killing the fungus. We're killing this neural network.

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That that is the very fabric of you know of life and it's so special. It's so beautiful You can feel it if you meditate you can feel that connection to earth You can feel that connection through God through your Vegas nerve. It's beautiful and we're just missing out on it We're destroying it. So when you're supporting organic regenerative farming organic if you're if you're if you eat meat, I personally do you're supporting cows that are helping the planet and

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digging up the soil and peeing on the soil and adding to the microbiome and chewing up the energy and putting it back into the earth and doing all the great stuff that's like bison, right? Putting it back until we wipe everything out, right? Good old Americans. I'm not blaming Canadians, I'm blaming Americans. So toxic ingestion, get that organic food, lower that toxicity level, it's gonna destroy your gut. Toxic ingestion, toxic absorption.

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Classic.

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So the things that you're absorbing on your skin, like we kind of talked about that in ingestion. I put it on there, but let's talk about that. So if you look on your ingredients, here's the easiest way to do it, is if you wouldn't eat it, don't put it on your skin. So if you can read those ingredients, and it's not like coconut oil, organic palm oil, and whatever.

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Sunflower oil even, you know, it's seed oils. I mean, I guess you won't eat seed oils because it can cause inflammation too. But you get the point, right? I mean, there is, sunflower oil is kind of one of those controversial ones. It's not the worst of the seed oils. And there's good science to show that, but it's still a seed oil, I guess. But anyway, you're putting on your skin. If you weren't gonna drink it and eat it, don't put it on your skin. So, because everything you put on your skin is gonna absorb and go into your bloodstream. So this is where you're gonna change out the lotions that you're using, right? If they have all these crazy, you know,

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different names on there and titanium dioxide, because they put it in there for sunscreen or the sunscreen that you're using. So just make sure that the things that you're putting on your skin are not going to get into your body and then ultimately cause inflammation in your gut and then lead to disease. So there you go. And then we have toxic energy. I don't know the science on this, Josh. I will pull you on this one. But the effect of EMF, I 100 % believe.

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it would have an effect on the microbiology because they're energy. And there's all kinds of rife machines and frequencies and all this stuff for healing and for causing disease and killing off certain organisms or causing other ones to thrive because we are energy. I hate, you know, not hate, but Warren 10 years ago would think the Warren today is nuts. But as the science catches up with what's going on, this energetic stuff is not woo woo.

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Right? And there's an effect and it will affect your microbiology. So that's one of my, you know, my pillars. The next one's much easier to explain when it comes to that. I have not studied Josh, have you the effect of EMF on your gut microbiome?

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I've read some literature on it. It's not something I've studied intensively, but we do know that EMFs or electromagnetic frequencies, so all the things from your electronic devices, your wifi, all these things can really start to shift the balance of delicate bacteria, which can lead to these dysbiosis. They can disrupt all kinds of stuff. You mentioned the RYPH machines. These are things that were used hundreds of years ago. I believe even Nikolai Tesla used to play with these things in medicine. There were many doctors playing with them.

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they would actually use sound waves to break up disease or bacteria or even cancers. There's Ted talks about how they've used sound at a certain frequency, a certain amount of Hertz, whatever 200 ,000 Hertz or something that would actually fracture and destroy these cancer cells. And so there is good sound, there's bad sound. We've seen good benefits and studies of people who like, like apiarists, right? Who have beehives or sleep near beehives. These sounds have been shown to be extraordinarily healing, anti -disease, anti -everything.

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We know sound waves can lead or EMFs can lead to oxidative stress or inflammation causing issues within the body on a cellular mitochondrial level. We know it can compromise your immune system so we can go on and on but needless to say it they affect your gut they affect everything else anyway and it's not something I could produce a whole whack of studies on but we know the data is out there a quick Google search would pull it up.

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Yeah, I mean, you nailed it, right? I mean, the frequency, it's either with nature or without, right? And we can walk outside and there's solid science on grounding. Solid, like so solid, like crazy solid, right? I couldn't believe the antioxidant suppression that happens from getting your feet on the ground, right? It is...

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Ridiculous science, ridiculous science on sleep. I think there's heart disease. Like it's just, it's so clear. And it's like, I always thought all the crunchy hippies, you know, were full of it, right? And why do you not use deodorant? Why do you not shampoo your hair? And I'm like, son of a bitch, they knew it right all along, right? And I'm turning into a hippie as I age. Like I'm throwing out all my organic, you know,

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Dirty dirty hippie

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Toxic absorption, let's go there, right? Microplastics and nanoplastics are showing up like crazy on the radar and in the research, like 2024 studies, right? Increases your risk of heart disease and maybe even, I don't quote me on this one, but all -cause mortality, maybe, but definitely heart disease, they've linked it. They did a study on, I don't know, it was like 100 different. Did you see that one? Yeah, and so the ones that had nanoplastics in there,

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atherosclerosis, yeah. I did.

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in their bloodstream had a 4 .1 times increase in cardiovascular disease. And so, and there's other, I read other studies where they sampled, they were sampling for, is it the medical devices that they're using that are plastic that's causing the plastic to be in the heart tissue and other tissues, but what they found in sampling is that the heart tissue already had microplastics in it, right? And in this new study, you know, did the correlation that these nanoplastics are being found in the, are,

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in the inflammation in the arterial lining, right? In the corrosion of the artery, they're pulling out, scraping it out and finding microplastics because the body is protecting it, right? Makes sense. There's a microplastics, I'm gonna fix it and causing the calcification. So I don't know if it's calcification, might be, might not be calcification. It might be just inflammation and then just whatever that mechanism is.

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that went to seal it off, right? It's a clogged artery, essentially, right? So they're finding these microplastics everywhere, but guess what? We're wearing microplastics. And there's a crazy study is it causes infertility, right? They did a study back in the 1990s. They put them slings on men, kind of like little polyester bikinis. 100 % infertility, you know, wouldn't get anyone pregnant, right? It messes because we're talking about energy. One of the...

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In this study, they talked about how it moves on you, creates an electrostatic charge which messes up the flow of sperm. They're not sure, but one of the major things is it's something to do with the electrostatic charge in this unnatural material causing that and plus the heat. They did one on female dogs and male dogs with natural fibers versus non -natural fibers. Female dogs, same thing. Male dogs, again, same thing. So...

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All these plasticizers, all this stuff that's outside of nature, outside of nature's frequency, right? Outside of what we've evolved or God created, whatever you want to believe, you cannot deny the fact that we're in harmony with nature, with natural fibers that have energy, that have frequency, that speak to our gut like you exposed, you talked about certain sounds, feed sunlight, feed us, but the world's telling us get out of the sun. The world's telling us,

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to listen to shit music, right? That doesn't feed our soul, but it makes money. It's crazy.

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They literally just posted an article recently that went viral on social, was that how the sun can increase the risk of heart disease or whatever else. And I'm like, this is the craziest stuff I've ever read. Ugh.

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Oh, and how fasting causes like heart disease, the American Heart Association or something published that I'm like, are you kidding me? There's so much clear evidence on that. And so everyone's putting it out there. I'm so frustrated. I'm not doing that video. I'm just like, I just don't, I couldn't say it without being angry. And I don't want to have an angry voice when I'm on social media. Like I want to come just calm and happy and funny. I'm dropping a video tomorrow on that's so funny tomorrow.

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on hair dye so it'll be after the fact but it is so funny. Because education needs to be entertaining, right? Because like you said from the very beginning is if people live in fear they do nothing but if you can make them laugh a little bit and let their brain figure it out over time and you keep dropping nuggets of truth, you know, people start making changes. So even if you don't want to make a change, I'm good with it, right? But just take your time and you'll get there. So that's toxic absorption. Get rid of the plastic clothing. That plastic is now...

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Especially, you know toilet paper, you know you wipe with micro plastic toilet paper. It gets lodged into your your anal cavity, right? They have the research it gets up into your gut and causes inflammation and disease. There's micro plastics are ton Around that area right? That's an easy one the gut from eating Micro plastics there's they're fine. They've always found it in the gut in the intestines in the anus like the areas where

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You were getting the biggest exposure in your lungs from breathing it. But now it's penetrated because now they have the studies, the equipment to measure the nanoplastics, which are just crossing everywhere into your body and just filling us with these microplastics. Our body has some ability to detox microplastics a bit, but you can't overwhelm it. So you definitely don't want to absorb these things. You don't want to ingest these things. You don't want to inhale these things going through all that stuff. So cutting back on microplastics is a big deal. I think clothing is a big deal. And the last one.

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is toxic mindset. As we know, that's highly gonna impact your gut, your belief structure, your hormone levels, your gut feeling, being sick in your gut, right? And putting yourself through that, your gut's releasing all kinds of messages and information that are jacking up and causing inflammation in your body, causing gut dysbiosis, even your thoughts, right? So I think one of the major things that...

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If you want to live a non -toxic lifestyle, I know I put toxic mindset at the very, very end of the pillars, but if you want to change your life, you know, we'll quote Tony Robbins here, you know, change your thoughts, we'll change your words, change your thoughts, which will change your actions, which will change your life. So you do need to change your thoughts. You got to think about the future, not the past. You got to think about the now. You got to forgive yourself quickly, move on to the next thing. Because otherwise it's just going to wreak havoc on your hormonal system, your health, your gut.

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your ability to make good decisions. You just make excuse after excuse not to do anything. And if you're in a stuck place, go get help, go to a church, get around a positive person and tell them, look, I'm not here just to waste your time talking about all my problems. Tell me how to live a better life. I'm sick of this. Right. Go to someone who's done the path. Listen to positive podcasts like yours and just fill yourself with positive information and hope and start thinking better and getting rid of that toxic mind.

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man, it will make the biggest difference in your life and then all the other pillars become much easier to do. So it is a foundational pillar of the other pillars when you're looking at toxic inhalation, toxic ingestion, toxic absorption, toxic energy, right? It's all dependent. A lot of it's dependent on your toxic mindset and whether you're even capable of doing it. You're in a toxic relationship. You don't believe in yourself. You don't love yourself. You don't think you deserve this life. You don't think you deserve...

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to, you'll self -sabotage yourself. You'll still drink alcohol because you know if you stop drinking alcohol and somebody needs to hear this right now, that your life would absolutely change and you'd make an impact and you're afraid of that future, right? Step into that future, get rid of alcohol. It'll transform your life. You're sabotaging yourself on purpose because you don't think you're worth it. You don't think you're good enough. Someone told you that you sucked, right? Or you weren't smart, guilty.

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I had professors tell me that I was dumb and shouldn't go to graduate school. I got straight A's in graduate school. He was insecure and had issues, right? Because his dad told him he was an asshole or dumbass or whatever. My dad didn't say that stuff, you know, but I was always trying to please my dad. You know, all these things. Work on your psychology. I don't know why I went here, but you know, you said free flow, no, you know, no thing, but.

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It's a lawless podcast.

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Yeah, this is the lawless podcast. I just really feel like no one wants to hear this information. Like I put it on Instagram, and I want to talk about it more. But it just no one wants to listen, right? On a podcast like this, I hope people listen. But you know, if you believe in yourself that you know that you're brilliant, and you know that you're loved by the god of this universe, or somehow the other higher power, whatever you need to do, just know that you're loved by another individual that

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that's been standing by you for 20 years and putting up with your bullshit, right? They still love you. They're still there. Accept that love and start making good choices. And you start making those good choices, starting with alcohol, starting with removing fragrances, starting with getting slowly getting rid of all your plastic clothes, whatever your life will look so much better. A year from now, Josh is going to get, you know, letters saying, man, that podcast, you know, it might just be one person. And that's all it matters to me. I just had a lady.

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I talked about prenatal vitamins and I'm like here, if a prenatal vitamin has a Prop 65 logo on it and they're exceeding Prop 65 levels where there's no safe levels of lead for an adult, let alone a child, and a child in a belly that's growing, and they're allowed, right? Get rid of that, right? Don't ask a company, are they Prop 65 compliant or better? And they're not. And they're like, oh my gosh, I'm taking a supplement.

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that has no business being Prop 65, especially with that amount of lead. It's not a lot of lead, 0 .5, but for a prenatal vitamin, no business. So she just thanked me. I've been taking a product. So things like that, these little small things you can do once you become aware, don't feel guilty, move off the decision, forget the past is the past, have a positive mindset about it. This is what's bad, you know? Don't do this. If that lady, an amazing woman,

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Was felt bad about her decision she's creating guilt and shame and destroying her cells and causing inflammation and altering our hormones Because she's feeling of what she did in the past soon as you find out that that's bad Fine, I made a mistake tomorrow's a new day. I'm I know I did what I did. I forgive myself I didn't know any better and I move on right that is so important to get on and off of those bad decisions in the past or in the past move on

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warren (01:01:11.164)
I was an alcoholic, I'm no longer an alcoholic, that would be hard for AA to say, but that was in the past, and now I'm an amazing human, and I'm loved, and I'm free from that, and I'm free, and I don't go to the past, right? So that's just how I function, and I think a lot of the folks that have been through hell and back, like myself, that's how we have to function in order to make change and make it quickly.

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Josh (01:01:35.487)
It's funny, you know, it's really the summary of this entire thing is have a healthy mindset love be loved have The closer you get to nature the further you get from disease It's almost like God knew what he was doing when he made everything the first time and then we went along and screwed it all up So here we are all getting sick and we have no one else to blame but ourselves But I want to leave this one here on a really let's say a positive uplifting note I know this stuff can be that was a that was beautiful by the way to transition

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Sometimes people can feel almost overwhelmed. So I want to just throw the ball back into your court here, Warren, for any famous last words, anything you'd like to leave the audience with, a note of positivity, something we haven't talked about, anything, balls in your court, open mic.

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warren (01:02:18.716)
Oh man, I mean kind of just riffed on my last thing. Yeah, I just totally riffed on, this is how non -toxic dad really feels. Man, you're, just make one, cliche, just make one better decision each and every day. Make sure you take time, like I say this to,

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which I loved, by the way.

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to a lot of my friends that are dads, because I think we have an audience here that's a mom, you know, take time to really connect with nature and the greatest nature I think is children and love and just feel their skin, you know, feel the breath on your face, feel the warmth of their hands, the softness of their skins, the cuteness of their voices, and just let that feel you. Take a, take a breath for a moment and really enjoy everything, your child, nature.

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Sound, the things we've been talking about, touch, the un -toxic touch, right? Untoxic ingestion. You're eating food, taste it, enjoy it, right? Allow your senses to reconnect as they were intended because I know for a fact, if you're a woman and the pressures that are unduly put on you as mothers, as women, and I think women are the one of the most undervalued still today.

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group in this world. It's sad and we focus other places. There's a lot of good, you know, and some of the balance, but you know, we're missing out on mothers and women in general. And I really think since this is the audience is that really take time for yourself and just experience life again as it was intended with feeling that touch, feeling the pressure of the earth, you know, on your buttocks. You know what?

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Josh (01:04:15.167)
I'm sorry.

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Just know that imagine the electrons coming up, antioxidants filling you up and releasing all the, and replacing all the toxic electricity that we're getting in our homes that are loading up this battery with the wrong stuff and then replenishing you with clean earth energy that you need that the science shows. But I think that's after my hyper, you know, heartfelt message, I think.

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Having that meditative connection to other humans, taking time to listen to their voice, be present, not judge, and just see that love in each and everything. See the love and energy in nature. And you know, one of the greatest things that I can do each and every day, and the more stressed out I am, and the more stressed out you are, take five minutes if you have children or even a friend or you want an animal, a puppy.

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Right? They're great too. They're actually great donors of electrons because they go outside and run around on their paws. Take time to just re -center and experience nature. I'll grab my daughter and I'll just hold her, right? And I'll smell her, that sense. I'll touch her, right? And just close my eyes and let every sense and I'll just go through them. Like I listen to her little voice and it just, my nervous system goes from this,

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because of my day to this. And now, you know, even me even thinking of that has changed my tonality, my breathing pattern, you know, you're not so scared of me anymore because he's not yelling about toxins, you know, so I think that that is a great tip that I need to do myself more, right, because we run so hard and I just listened to a medical doctor that was quoting some research on people who live in that hyperactive state.

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the chances of getting cancer and disease are just so much higher, right? The DNRC lady that I talked to that was gonna spray these, this Myrtle spurge that's all over, of course, I got rid of all mine naturally, I pulled it out by hand and she was saying that her, whether you believe this or not, her sister, who's a medical doctor, right, in the medical system, couldn't find answers in the medical system, she went to a Joe Dispenza concert, concert, or event, right?

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I don't know Joe very well and you know there's lots of opinions on Joe but I do believe when you connect and get that calmness that healing can happen, right? And you don't have to go to a Joe Dispensive event. You can access that right now. Just did a Tony Robbins on you guys. But you can have that right now in this moment and in life and it's a beautiful life. It's not as shitty as you think. It's not as shitty as the media is telling you. And don't let you know non -toxic dad fear you. Let non -toxic dad empower you.

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With decisions you don't have to make but you get to make on your timeline and you're in control of your own life You're responsible for your own life, you know, and if you take time for yourself, you're gonna be much more productive You're gonna be a better parent better better lover better friend. Amen

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Josh (01:07:26.943)
I love that. I love that. And you know what? I know you said it might be cliche, one small habit at a time, but that was so perfect. And there's just little things. I mean, we always want a silver bullet. We want something quick. And if you look at it, if someone said, I'll give you a million dollars today, right? Or a penny doubled every day for 30 days, what would you rather?

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Well, a million dollars today sounds great, but a penny doubled every day for 30 days is like $10 .7 million. And so the idea is that small things seem small today, they do compound later. And I think you just really said it so perfectly. Now, Warren, if somebody wants to learn more about you, they want to dive into non -toxic dad, where can they find you?

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warren (01:08:05.02)
Well, you know, we're pushing hard on all non -toxic dad on all profiles, right? Instagram seems to get the most, give me some love over on TikTok because I got people always trying to beat me down over there and I need more followers over there to tip the algorithm. If we still have TikTok or not, it doesn't matter to me. None of that matters. I'm just going to do my thing. So, you know, all social media platforms, I have a website, nontoxicdad .com. You can join my newsletter. We do a recap weekly newsletter.

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Josh (01:08:18.591)
Hahaha.

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warren (01:08:34.044)
We give recipes, we do a lot of giving over there on that newsletter at non -toxicdad .com. Again, by the time this airs May 1st, between now and probably mid -May, you can watch the series homesickhome .com for free. That'll be a great resource for you guys. And I guess stay tuned for how to live a non -toxic lifestyle in 30 days. Educational.

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you know, inexpensive educational but high value program someday, you know, because Josh told me I need to do it.

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Josh (01:09:08.731)
I look forward to seeing that and when it does, you drop it on over, we'll drop it in the show notes. Well, Warren, it's been a pleasure having you here. Thank you so much for your time, your expertise and taking the last 20, 25 years of a non -toxic living and just condensing it to a good solid hour with us. I appreciate that.

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warren (01:09:26.332)
Yeah, Josh, love your tone, love your heart, and love your heart energy. And it was really easy to open up on this podcast. So that's really a good thing. I really do trust you and appreciate you bringing me on your show.