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My name's Daniel Rolls, and in this episode I'm gonna take you through the
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And the end of 2025, we saw a flurry of AI updates and changes, uh, and a
bit of a heating up of the AI model war, particularly between open AI
and chatt PT. And Google Gemini, so it's kind of worth starting there.
OpenAI released Chat two BT five, uh, and actually that was adopted
into co-pilots or something.
Co-pilot leaped forward as well, and it seemed like it was kind of really
racing ahead of Google Gemini and chat two B five was smarter and it
was a lot more autonomous, and it just kind of seemed smarter all around.
And then suddenly Gemini three was released.
Uh, and in terms of writing and logical responses, it kind of leapt ahead of chatt
pt, so it was really good at work out what you're asking for and it seemed a
lot more reasoned than it had done before.
But then suddenly a big story appeared in the press about Sam Altman from opening
Air, reacting to that and releasing a code red and saying, right, we need to stop
all non-essential projects and we need to kind of leap ahead again of Google Gemini.
Now I should say, at the same time, he did come onto Twitter and congratulate
Google on what a great model.
Gemini three is then within, within days in the following weeks, we saw
Chacha, BT 5.1, uh, and then 5.2.
And the big leap for 5.2 is ability to do real world tasks kind of more effectively.
So if you've ever got chat two BT to kind of create a project plan in
PowerPoint or create a spreadsheet, it was kind of reasonably limited.
Suddenly 5.2 is massively better.
They're doing those kind of things.
So in reality now what it means is that dependent on the task, you might
actually select a different large language model for that particular task.
Now, I haven't mentioned Claude here as well, but Claude has also taken a leap
forward in terms of coding as well.
But for my use case, for example, generally I'm still
using chat GPT for most things.
And that's, that's mainly because I've created lots of custom gpt.
I can connect it to lots of different tools, which we'll come
back to in a moment 'cause that's taken a leap forward as well.
But for coding, Gemini feels like it's just miles ahead as well.
So, we'll, we'll come back to that, that coding piece to me, and actually
the interface for making that coding accessible to marketers, to entrepreneurs
and so on, is a bit of a different thing.
Over the same time period, we saw the release of Nano Banana Pro.
So that was Google's image generation tool and they had nano banana already,
which was already pretty impressive.
But Nano Banana Pro, uh, has just kind of really leapt forward.
And then we had the release of new chat, GPT images.
In both cases, what we really saw is a leapt forward in the ability to
edit existing images and particularly photographs but the photorealism
of what was being created as well.
Now I have to say Gemini is, I feel generally better at the moment, a
photorealism, but they're both incredible.
The big change really is now that Chachi t can edit and recreate photos.
So previously.
If I'd taken a picture of me and I'd said, put this on me on a beach same
person, but has put me on a beach.
It was kind of prevented from doing that due to a safety restriction
and the safety restrictions.
You couldn't take people and put them in new situations.
It would recreate them, but it wouldn't quite be them.
The faces would change.
Now, the, the big shift is you can now do that.
Now if you look at why Google did it in the first place.
It's, if you go into Google Ads, there is a tool there.
So you can take a product and you can put that product in any scenario.
So you could take a Target internet mug, uh, and I, I'll upload the
example of this to the show notes, target internet.com/podcast, and I
can then take that item or remove the background for me and it'll put
it in loads of different situations.
And you can do that at scale.
Now incidentally, if you want to do that, go to Google Ads.
You click on tools on the menu.
You can access, uh, the ability to add images, and you can download those images.
You can also create videos and things in there as well.
The big change for Google.
NAU Banana Pro is extreme.
Photorealism like lighting and subtlety is incredibly better, but
it's also really caught up in being able to create text effectively.
So it was a little bit, you create kind of high licky things sometimes as well,
so it's much better at doing that.
But it also now does something that Chachi Bitty has done for a while, which is using
source images to create on-brand images.
So if you're not familiar, you can do this in both platforms now.
You upload a whole sequence of images.
You say create me a something like an infographic explaining something.
You define what it is, but use these images as source styling and it will copy
the colors, the fonts, the spacing, the layout, those kind of things as well.
Another big change for chat GBT is that connectors, uh, are gone
and they're now called apps.
And the key thing here is, first of all, there's a lot more of them.
And they can do a lot more.
So you've got a massive list of tools now you can connect chapter PT up to.
And that is one of the limitations of Google Gemini, is that Gemini
is kind of locked down a lot more to the Google platforms.
Now, a lot of large corporations, that's a, that's a good thing 'cause
they don't want it to be connected up to lots of different things.
Within chapter, BT you can set this at an administrator level, so you don't
need to give people access to it if you're doing it as part of a large team.
But for example, there's a Canva plugin instead.
Now, me just asking Canva to list when I access the projects, what
are my latest projects and things like that, I can actually say, okay,
create me a design using my brand guidelines, and it'll go on and it'll
give me, for example, four designs.
I can select from those and I can refine them, I can update them.
And it's not just Canva, it's Adobe Photoshop, but it's Adobe
Express and various others as well.
So suddenly I'm interacting with apps like Canva and Figma and lots of others
as well from within Chat two PT itself and doing a lot of the work there as well.
Now I mentioned this earlier on, but really for me, the big leap
for Gemini is its coding ability.
Not just that it can code well, but the logic in working out what I want it to
build from my prompt is really incredible.
And the code is notably more reliable than chacha puppeteers
from my experience currently.
The big thing really though from a kind of marketer entrepreneur's point of
view is the, is the coding interface.
So both tools have something called canvas mode, which I
will come back to in a moment.
But Gemini has a little selector tool where it'll get it to write some code.
It will then preview what that code like, the interface that
whatever you've built as well.
And then you could just highlight a little bit of that page and you could say, oh,
change this text to this, or redesign this button, or lay this out differently,
or add this functionality here.
If you wanna see a couple of interactive pages we've done recently, go to the show
notes, uh, target internet.com/podcast and you'll see those in there.
And we've managed to create these interactive pages, tutorials that are
really completely on brand and that what it created the first time was okay, but
by tweaking it again and again with my brand manager, we got it to the stage
we're really happy with, and then we can take that code and use it again.
In the future.
So the idea of vibe coding, kind of going backwards and the forwards that we covered
in a recent episode really the interface in Gemini really helps you with that.
Now, bear in mind at the moment, what I can do is say, create
me a one page app in HTML.
Maybe build in the cascading style sheets, the CSS, and then
maybe use something like React.
And this is all stuff that can run in a browser with no backend.
So what does that mean?
It means you could copy and paste that code into your content management
system if your content management system allows you to do that, and you
could deploy that relatively easily.
And we are doing that across target internet a fair bit now.
That essentially means that you.
Creating interactive content as a marketer has got a whole lot more
accessible if you can liaise with your tech team to actually deploy that stuff.
A stage further on from this is that Gemini now allows you to add AI
features to whatever you are creating.
Okay, so give you an example.
Fairly easy with any of these tools at the moment to create some
interactive content with charts or animations and things like that.
But actually now I could create the interface for a tool that creates a
persona and I could fill in some basic details, and then I can add an AI button.
I hit the button and it fills in the rest of the persona for me.
Or I could go through and say, right, I'm going to give you a topic, a target
audience, uh, a number of channels.
I wouldn you to build me a marketing strategy.
Now, deploying these kind of tools is more complex.
Because you've gotta include calls to the API that's in Gemini within
our website, or we are working on doing that at the moment.
But there's nothing stopping you creating apps within Gemini that
you can just use for yourself.
So you could build yourself a strategy builder with beautiful interface.
So the idea being that at the moment you can, in chat, bt you can create
custom GPTs, you know, create a GPT, that's a specific thing for you.
In Google, Gemini, they're called gems within copilot, uh,
they're calling them agents.
It's all pretty much the same thing.
The difference here is that what I'm doing is creating an interface for a tool.
It's not just text.
I can actually kind of fill in some fields and things like that
and get it to something for me.
Now, if you're interested.
We have a live one hour update session that's free to newsletter subscribers
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And I spent half a day with me building some of this stuff live as well.
I want to come back to that point about Canvas and it's a
little missed kind of feature.
So Canvas, if you go to over chat two, BT and Gemini, there's a little plus sign
on chat two Bt you have to go to tools.
In Gemini you just kind of go through the list and essentially
what people use it for is kind of interactively writing something.
So when you're writing an article, you could just highlight a section
of the article and get it to rewrite that bit, which is a nice
interface for editing content.
But actually what I've seen people miss a lot, and I've done a lot of training
sessions where I'm doing something and people are going, well, how?
How have you done that?
Have you got a preview?
And what I mean is if you get any of these tools to write your code
or write the code out, and you're like, well that's great, but I've now
gotta cut, cut and paste that out.
I've probably got Crate an HTML file.
I've gotta drop it into that and I've gotta preview it.
Okay.
If you have canvas mode switched on.
You will get a little preview button and that will immediately
show you what that code and it's running is gonna look like as well.
So it's a real game changer because it makes it way more accessible to go through
and create code and then preview it.
So the idea I was speaking about a moment ago, you go to Google
Gemini, you get it to create a tool that would be useful to you.
You build AI into that and there is a button just to add
Gemini AI to it, and then if you preview, you can use that tool.
So, so it's a really nice technique for building things for yourself and
then potentially you could deploy that stuff if you wanted as well.
But obviously that's a bit more complicated.
Okay, last small piece to talk about in this quick update session.
Chatty BT Atlas, that was chatty BTS browser was released for Max now.
It's only Mac at the moment and it's only Apple, Silicon powered Mac as
some of the latest Macs as well.
It's been around since mid-October though, and we've been playing with it loads.
Just to say there is a PC version coming.
Uh, we think late January or February, there's no update, but don't forget,
you can achieve very similar things except the agent mode stuff I'm about
to talk about with Microsoft Edge, which has got copilot built into it.
As well.
Uh, and copilot is now running the very latest version of chat,
bt, which is 5.2 at the moment.
Anyway, so you can get the same kind of results.
But what's really exciting about this is that I still use Google Chrome as
my standard browser, but where Atlas is really excelling is comparing
and contrasting pages I have open.
So look at these five webpages that are all selling maybe a similar
product and correct me a new page that's better than all of them.
Or run analysis of all these open reports and create me a summary report.
So imagine you go through, you open up your web analytics, your email analytics,
your social analytics, your ads, you open each of the tabs, and you create a
prompt that you run once a month to go through and compile a standard report
from all of those things in one place.
So suddenly it becomes way easier to understand data, to pull
insights out of that data, but do it in a quick, efficient way.
Analyze this page from an SEO point of view, analyze this page from a conversion
rate optimization point of view as well.
But what's really interesting is anything you can open, if you put it
into agent mode, you can then edit it.
So if you open a spreadsheet in Excel, in office, you can then put
it to agent mode and it can edit.
Spreadsheet.
I had great fun making it argue with Gemini.
So I open up Gemini inside Atlas, open us Chatt PT in the little side tab,
and then got it to interact and have a conversation about which of them was
better and it went on for some time.
So basically if you can open a window.
You can then get it to interact with that as well.
So lots of opportunity for workflow improvement, but I think
that reporting piece is probably one of the most important.
And we're gonna have an upcoming podcast all about creating
automated reporting, uh, as well.
So some tips there, some updates on what's happening with the major large
language models and what it means to us as marketers and entrepreneurs as well.
Keep listening to the Digital Marketing podcast.
We'll have more of these regular short update sessions coming up.
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