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Hello there, health coaches. Welcome
to our supplements expert series.

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I've put this together for all
of us because let's be honest,

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we did not learn much about
supplements in health coaching school.

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That's just a fact,

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and yet it comes up all the
time and you're probably
taking your own supplements

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too.

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So today we're going to
focus on probiotics and Dr.
Viegas from Fullscript is

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That stands for Practice Better. Dr.
Viegas, thank you so much for being here.

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Can you tell us a little
bit about yourself?

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Well, thanks for having me, Michelle.
Sure. So I'm Dr. Eric Viegas.

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I'm a naturopathic
doctor in Ottawa, Canada.

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I currently work at Fullscript
as a medical product manager,

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very much versed in supplement
quality and teaching

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providers how to spot high quality
supplements and perhaps lower quality

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supplements. Prior to
my work at fullscript,

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I actually worked for some of the
larger supplement companies in Canada in

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their education department.

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Alright, thanks for giving
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Info for today we're going
to be focusing on probiotics,

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which I know a lot of clients are
asking our coaches about all the time,

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yet again,

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we're not generally trained in this area
and it's a kind of complicated thing.

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So can you start us off with
just the top lining for us?

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What are probiotics? How do
they benefit overall health?

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Sure, yeah, great place to start.

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So probiotics are live microorganisms
and they're often referred to as good

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bacteria. They can help
maintain healthy gut flora.

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So probiotics can be derived
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animals, spores, the list goes on and on,

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and probiotics support digestion and
gut health and also the immune system,

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which is mainly located in the gut.

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There are many probiotics
supplements on the market,

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but not all are created equal and we
could spend probably a lot of time

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talking about various
different species and strains.

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But I would recommend for the
health coaches listening today,

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check out a great resource. I
have no affiliation to them.

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They're called AE Probio.

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So they're a helpful resource that can
help start your journey into probiotics

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by bolstering basic understanding of
what probiotics are and also providing,

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which I feel is very helpful,

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a breakdown of research
on various products on the
market and their indications.

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Well, that's a great resource.
Thanks for sharing that.

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We'll get that link in the show notes
if we're out there either with a

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rudimentary understanding of probiotics
or if we do a deep dive into that

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resource.

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I know with all supplements it's a little
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looking at all these brands,
it's kind of like choosing wine.

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You end up choosing based on
the label, how much you like,

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how pretty the label is, and that's
probably not the right way to go about it.

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What should we be looking
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Great question.

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So I would say look for a product with
well-researched species like specific

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strains of lactobacillus acidophilus
or bifidobacterium lactus,

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and of course ensure that it has
enough colony forming units or CFUs,

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which are the gold standard for measuring
the potency of probiotic products.

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And they're typically in the
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I would consider clinical evidence
supporting the specific strains for the

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health goals of your clients.

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So numerous studies support
probiotics benefits for gut health,

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including reducing symptoms of irritable
bowel syndrome known as IBS and

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supporting the immune
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some studies also show potential
benefits for mental health,

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such as reducing symptom severity and
conditions like anxiety and depression.

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That thing about CFUs is important
because I've noticed sometimes with lower

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cost probiotics you look and the
number of CFUs in there is way, way,

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way smaller than another product at
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but you're actually getting far
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thing that you might find among brands?

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Oh, definitely, yeah. Very important
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because to your point,

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a lower quality probiotic product might
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amount,

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and that's really just a drop in the
ocean if you consider the trillions of

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organisms that are colonizing our gut.

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Ah, okay, good. So we're going
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What about third party testing? I
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Is that a thing with probiotics?

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Yes, it is.

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Third party testing actually applies to
many different categories of supplements

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and essentially third party testing
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bottle.

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So third party testing ensures the
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label in the correct CFU amounts and
that it's free from contaminants.

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And so contaminants here could be
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certain drugs or allergens.

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So this essentially helps guarantee the
safety and effectiveness of the product.

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And the label should list the third
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those specific strains and their CFU
count at the time of manufacturer.

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And I would say in addition to third
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always check for an expiration date
on the product and also ensure that

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products are stored correctly from
wherever you buy your supplements.

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Great. I was going to ask you, how do
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There is usually some type of label
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And then I imagine if we are
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that's listed right there
in the product description?

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That's correct. It will be
listed there, and again,

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it'll be directly on that label.

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So there are third party certifications
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So you'll see certain
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they'll say third party
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and then they'll provide those
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you want to make sure that that specific
seal is directly on that product label.

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Great tip. All right.

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So for I know health coaches are
buying probiotics for themselves,

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I know I buy them for my
kids. We're probably talking
to our clients about them.

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we probably just have friends and family
members asking us these questions all

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the time. They assume we know
and we don't necessarily know.

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So it's good to at least have
this background of knowledge.

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What about interactions?

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If people are taking certain medications
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do we have to worry about the
kind of probiotics we're taking?

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Yeah, another great question. So
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they may interact with certain medications
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effectiveness, but at the same time,

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probiotics can also help replenish
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So timing is important for
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Clients should aim to take supplements
a few hours away from antibiotics to

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ensure optimal effects of both
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you'll actually start to see there's a
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contain additional antioxidants or other
ingredients that might actually help to

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bolster the effect of
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Oh, that's interesting.
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but I did know about alternating
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So I know our pediatrician always tells
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In between those doses is when you want
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getting ravaged in their
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Yeah, correct. I mean, as
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they'll kill off bacteria,

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and oftentimes that means that
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fungi, yeast can maybe start to take over.

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So supplementing with a probiotic not
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are there,

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but could also help to
prevent the colonization of
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I have a question.

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I think about this a lot when I'm buying
because we tend to find a brand and

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then we like the brand even when it comes
to makeup or clothing or anything and

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then we buy it again. But
when it comes to probiotics,

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is it cool to stick with the same brand
that we know and we love or I feel like

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it's the kind of thing
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That's a good question. I think it
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The case. So again,

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if that specific product is involved
in a clinical trial for kind

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of what the indication is, then
I would recommend following that.

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But if it's more for
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for sure people can kind of rotate through
different probiotics just to ensure

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that they're getting a
variety of different strains.

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I mean one day, and there probably is
some service out there, I don't know,

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that tells us exactly what microbiota
we have floating around inside our guts.

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it just helps to make sure
we're getting a variety.

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And don't forget those probiotic
fermented foods everybody,

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but especially for clients who
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That's just a little side note there.

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Love my kimchi. I just have
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Eating kimchi. Exactly
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My wife doesn't appreciate the smell
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but I love my kimchi.

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She will grow to love
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We do a lot of fermenting
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We always like to do stuff with food
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most of our clients are going to put
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comes to kimchi or anything
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very special and rare. So we have,

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or probiotics, let's say I
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I wanted to ask you just explain
a little bit about storing them,

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especially if you travel. Is
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throw 'em in a container? Are
they going to last for three days?

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That's a great question.
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whether they're shelf
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So they'll contain over a hundred percent
of the listed CFU just to ensure that

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by the time they expire, they
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But it's important to note
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again need refrigeration
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which means that to your point, you
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you can travel with them and not worry
about having to refrigerate them.

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So it's important to follow the storage
instructions on the label to ensure that

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the live bacteria remain
active and effective.

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And it's also important that proper
storage and handling is followed by the

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online platforms or brick and mortar
stores where you buy your probiotics.

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So just to note here, I
do work for fullscript.

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I just wanted to highlight that Fullscript
takes a lot of time to ensure current

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good manufacturing practice
compliance when they receive handle

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store and ship products. So for example,

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refrigerated probiotics are always
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against heat and humidity.

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Right? So you could go, I'm not
saying that anyone's doing this,

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but you could potentially go to a store,

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you could spend $40 on a bottle of
probiotics and everything inside could be

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dead if it's been sitting in a
hot warehouse for the last year.

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Absolutely. Yeah. And that's
definitely a concern, right?

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So it's important that you vet
those sort of storage standards

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from the companies that
you're buying products from.

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Alright, awesome.

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So I'm sure anyone listening who's not
currently taking probiotics is now like

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maybe I should be taking a probiotic
and I know when we start anything,

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you have to be careful and go slow.

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What does somebody need to know about
starting out with a probiotic supplement?

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Are there any side effects
that we should be aware of?

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Yeah, another great question, Michelle.
So most people tolerate probiotics well,

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but with most supplements,

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some people actually experience mild
side effects like gas or bloating.

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So these symptoms they usually resolve
after the body adjusts to prebiotic fiber

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that might be present in the product,

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and as friendly strains help to deal
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colonizing the gut.

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an alleviation of those symptoms,
but if symptoms do persist,

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clients should definitely consult
their healthcare provider.

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So if you start taking it, you might
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you said six to eight weeks, but if it
continues, exactly, we got to look into.

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That. Yeah, in addition to that
there, oh, sorry, go ahead.

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I was going to say,

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and of course we always want our clients
consulting with their doctors anyway

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when they're going on these things,

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but it's for ourselves and just in general
think that's really helpful to know

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that there might be an adjustment period.

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Absolutely. And to add to that,

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some clients might also experience
changes in bowel habits,

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and that's typically what we see with
probiotics. So again, yeah, to your point,

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if it lingers longer than
it should definitely consult
your healthcare provider.

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Awesome. Now,

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I know all of our health coaches are
worried about scope of practice and we

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can't be telling our
clients to take probiotics,

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and no one is suggesting that you do that.

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The fact of the matter is
people are going to this store.

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They are going online without
consulting you, me or anyone,

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and buying stuff and just
starting to take it willy-nilly.

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So expect clients to come
to you with things like,

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I don't know why my stomach's
acting this way. You might ask,

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have you started taking any
new supplements recently?

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These might be things
they're doing on their own,

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and you can just help them sort out
the puzzle pieces as well as of course,

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refer them to their doctor. So thank
you so much for helping us today.

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Just better understand probiotics and
how to look for them and what to buy and

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what to do when we get them.
To your point about the cold pack,

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I get all of my probiotics for myself and
my kids through fullscript always with

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that cold pack.

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So you can definitely mail order these
things and you can get 'em on auto fill

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so it just automatically comes
to your house every few months.

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For all of our listeners,

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I want you to go to
healthcoachpower.com/fullscript info

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free account. I mean, you might as well.

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It's a free account.

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Just go check it out and keep listening
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series,

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Dr. Viegas is going to help us
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