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Welcome to Nerdpreneur,

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where we have fun conversations with nerds

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making money from their nerdy passion.

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And as always,

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I'm joined by my co host, Frank.

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Hey yo.

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And we have an awesome special guest

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today that we are excited to talk to.

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Her name is Melanie,

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and her instagram is Melegie.

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How are you doing?

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Hi, guys. I'm great.

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Awesome. So happy to have you here and

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appreciate you coming on the podcast.

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Can you tell us a little bit about what your

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nerdy passion is and how you got into it?

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Okay, let's see. I am a harpist.

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I do mainly celtic harp,

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but I like to play video game songs,

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like songs from nerdy tv shows.

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And I like to do cosplay and get dressed up.

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So it's something that

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kind of just started to happen in, like,

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the last couple years, actually.

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So it's all new and very exciting to me.

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Well, let's start with the harp because

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there was a lot in there.

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I know you've cultivated a real aesthetic

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for your whole page and what you do,

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and it's really grown quickly.

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When did you start playing harp?

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Oh, my gosh. Well, let's see.

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I think what gave me the inspiration,

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I played a lot of League of Legends in college.

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I liked

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to play a lot of, like, like, video games,

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like computer games, like that.

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And I loved to main

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this one champion called Sona. She, like,

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played the bottom row, if

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you're familiar with league. And she's, like,

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kind of support character,

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but she played the harp,

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and she was, like, so badass.

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She would do these different

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chords to attack the enemies,

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and I loved her,

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and I was actually kind of obsessed with her.

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I had all of her skills,

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and people would gift me her skins,

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which are basically like, you know,

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different looks for the champion

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and different clothes and stuff.

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And so she, she almost, like,

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I don't want to be,

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I don't want to say that she became

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like an obsession or anything, but, like,

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people kind of knew me as, like, maning sona.

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So I think that that is what sparked it.

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When I graduated college,

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I do graphic design,

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so I went to art school.

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I got myself a little

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harp on Amazon as a graduation gift.

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And I had never touched a harp my entire life.

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But I said, okay, I'm just gonna.

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Just gonna see what happens. You know, I love,

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I love how it sounds.

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I want to be as badass as Sona is, but,

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like real life soda. Yeah, yeah. So that's,

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that's where it started.

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I got this little, you know, like $200 harp,

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which is very

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cheap as far as harps go. Actually,

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probably more like $300,

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called a harpsicle.

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It only has two octaves

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and it sounds really tinny,

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but I still have it.

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And you can actually see me

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playing it in a lot of my videos. It's.

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It's like a portable harp.

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Yes, yes, exactly. Yeah.

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Most harps aren't

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very portable because I've seen,

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I've seen your videos.

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You have some that are bigger than that, too,

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and some that you can just play,

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like on a beach or something, right?

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I love my

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harpsichol because it's so lightweight and

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it comes with a guitar strap, so you can, like,

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just kind of sling it over

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your shoulder and walk

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around with this harp. So it's, it's. Yeah,

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it's very portable,

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and I love that aspect of it.

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My big harp that you see in my videos

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is significantly larger and heavier, and I,

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I actually have a difficult

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time even moving it around the room,

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so that's not going to go to the beach.

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It looks mastered.

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Yeah, I definitely can't think of a

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less portable thing like a harp.

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It feels like a piece of furniture in

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the house versus something that's like

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a musical instrument similar to a piano. Right?

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So you've been playing for a while,

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and obviously you did you always say, oh,

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I want to do video game music with it,

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or did that just sort of evolve

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out of your own interests also? Like,

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you have the other side,

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which is all celtic music, right?

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Yeah, I've always loved

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the sound of celtic music.

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And a few years ago,

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I did this, like, DNA test.

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I have a twin sister,

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so together we did this test.

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mostly from the British Isles, which

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is where a lot of this celtic world, like,

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where it originates.

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that's so cool, you know, and I traced, like,

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we were able to

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trace our lineage, even, like, Vikings. And.

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so there's something about celtic music

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that has this ancient energy to it.

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it's almost like

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I'm tapping into my ancestry and, like,

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the history from this, like, really cool,

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you know, rich in, like, folk tales and, like,

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you know, fairies and, like, magical stories.

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bringing that to life for a moment.

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so that's kind of like me bringing

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fantasy to life, making it, like, real.

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That's very cool.

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I feel you on that. I definitely.

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I did a similar test, DNA test,

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I have a lot of similar areas, you know,

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northwestern and northern Europe. So.

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But for me, I don't.

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I don't play the harp.

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I don't have that so much,

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but the ocean definitely gives that,

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and I think that's a mix of, like,

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that Viking and the.

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I just drink scotch. Yeah.

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I've got Scottish in me. So that's, I guess,

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why I drink scotch.

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Nothing as elegant

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or decadent as the ocean. Or harping.

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Is that the right term for it?

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Harping or harpist?

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Harping feels wrong. I don't know.

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That's actually a really interesting.

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That's a really good question,

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because there are two different words for it,

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and you're right.

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A harper is a harpist who originated from

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the British Isles, from Ireland, from Scotland,

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and they play celtic music.

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They're called a harper.

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grand harp that, you know,

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when you're watching an orchestra, that's.

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nobody really follows those rules,

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but I thought that was kind of a fun fact.

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I'm curious how, you know,

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you're playing your music.

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When was there this moment for you that I

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want to make a video or I want to make a post?

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What was the first moment that

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you brought your hobby to the Internet?

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Oh, my gosh. It's, like, such a nice memory

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to think of my very first video. And I did.

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I'm trying to think who composed it. It's

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this renaissance piece called the Robin by.

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I think it's John Mundi.

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And he was about from the 15 hundreds or so.

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But let's see. Yeah.

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So I had been playing for so long,

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and I wanted to have an audience,

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but I also didn't really want to, like,

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play for my friends

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and family because I was nervous.

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I'll make this anonymous instagram, you know,

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record some videos and just upload them,

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make it super casual,

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and only strangers are gonna see it.

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I know so nobody will see me, like, you know,

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making mistakes or whatever.

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it started to kind of snowball.

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I love this. And, you know,

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people started to reach out to me saying,

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I love that piece of music. You know,

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I've been having headaches all week,

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and your music has helped me, you know, like,

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alleviate some of that. And, and I just,

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I felt so

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good that I was reaching. They're strangers,

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but they're just people

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from all over the world. Like, it's,

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it's like something I never thought about,

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you know, just like, like humans,

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like you and me.

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obsessed with that feeling of helping.

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Somehow doing what I love to do is, like,

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kind of helping people,

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helping someone to even just

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make their day a little better. You know,

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if they just hear a song that perks

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them up or maybe they're stressed and

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hearing the harp helps to relax them. You know,

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I became addicted to that.

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I like, oh, so, yeah, well, that's.

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Really, I actually really love that,

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that point you just hit on, you know,

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you felt the fire,

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the passion from helping people. And, you know,

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something that we're hearing is that people

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who build their brands and their businesses,

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especially if there's a strong

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they are driven by the engagement that they

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get with these other people. So I'm curious,

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did that first video when you started to,

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or in the beginning when you started

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to get those engagements, did you, did you,

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did it take off or was it just

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a very few people who actually responded?

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It started Off Small,

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and I'm trying to think,

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I think I post,

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I also posted it to Reddit, like,

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under a different Reddit name,

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but I had a lot of people

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Reach out to me over Reddit. Oh, my gosh,

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it was amazing.

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I didn't consider myself a harpist.

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I didn't really take it seriously.

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I considered myself very much,

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this is just a hobby that I'm not very good at.

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on my radar or of my, like, future plans.

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like a thing gathering dust.

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You know, that I would like hearing.

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Hearing from these people. It really, like,

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stirred something in me.

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You said that it was gathering dust. Now,

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I really want to know what you

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were doing at the time for a day job.

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Say, I'm a graphic designer. Corporate. Yeah,

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I was corporate, Mel,

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you know, doing, like, that. Nine to five.

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Yeah. You're probably

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not getting the engagement of, wow,

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your art really helped soothe my headache.

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You're very likely not going

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to hear that in the corporate world.

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Yeah. You're now in the solution to the

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headache world as opposed

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to the cause of the headache world.

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Yeah, yeah, right.

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Yes, exactly.

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One of the things that

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I really noticed on your instagram,

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specifically is you have

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a very strong aesthetic as far as,

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I guess it's the aesthetic of you. Right? Like,

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the choice with the.

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With your hair and with, like,

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the way that you frame your.

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Your angles and your. And

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the dress and also the cosplay and all that.

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I guess I'm leaning towards

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that kind of core value. Question is,

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what are the choices from a design

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standpoint that you make to make

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sure something looks like it's melody?

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This is a really good question. Oh, man.

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I think. Well, let's see. I

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decided to dye my hair pink because, my friend,

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this was at this was it,

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the start of the pandemic. Oh, my gosh.

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I'm trying to think.

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And I didn't. I didn't really,

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like pink very much

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till we both dye our hair pink together.

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And I think I had, like,

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dark purple hair before I had before that.

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And it's

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so crazy because it, like, stuck, and it's.

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It really has become kind of, like,

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a core part of my identity. You know,

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I wasn't really, like,

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a pink person before this, but

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I just realized it fits really well with, like,

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my personality and with the kind

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of vibe that I give off, you know, this, like,

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carefree, whimsical, pretty, like, positive,

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you know, and, like, bubbly person, you know?

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So, yeah, it's definitely become, like,

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a staple, you know?

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And I recently did the split hair thing.

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So my right side is

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purple and my left side is pink, and that

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almost adds even more to, like, this, like,

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dreamy vibe, you know?

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And you can shoot one side with

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certain aesthetic and the other

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side a totally different aesthetic. Right.

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Well, man, that's when you can do the Gemini,

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the split personality.

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Exactly.

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That's great.

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So is there,

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as far as what Chris kind of touched

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on a little bit that I wanted to bring

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back the values that you have identified

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for what you're building. Have you? I mean,

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someone with your

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background and your graphic design,

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I'm sure there's values

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and concepts that you apply.

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And I don't know, though,

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if some of these you aren't,

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that you don't want to share.

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But I'm curious what

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it is that you want to accomplish.

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So the core values that fuel you,

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that help give you direction in what you

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are creating and the content that you create.

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So it's interesting,

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as I think about that question,

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and I was actually just

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thinking about how what I do,

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how it is influenced or how it was related.

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How is related to graphic design.

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And in a way,

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I think I've always rebelled.

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I think that I almost am rebelling

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against that graphic design, you know, that

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graphic designer that I was and, well, I am.

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I still do it, you know?

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And graphic design is basically all about.

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It's different from art, where it's.

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It's all about rules and it's

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all about structure and

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grids and clear communication,

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and that is graphic design.

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And it's funny because I've spent

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so many years of my life doing that,

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where it's a part of who I am,

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but I'm also just kind of like, fuck the rules.

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I've never liked rules.

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I don't like arbitrary rules. You know,

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I want to.

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I want to do my own thing. I

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was tired of following the rules all the time.

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And now I'm like,

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this is my outlet where

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I'm going to do what I want to do.

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If I don't feel like following the rules, I'm

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not going to follow the rules. I think that,

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in a way,

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that's what also makes melogy stand out, too,

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is because it's like.

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It's very, like, sporadic, and, you know,

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there really isn't a. A very, like,

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serious structure to it. I mean,

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besides kind

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of having a very pink and, like, happy vibe.

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Yeah.

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Well, here's something I really like about

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what you were saying is it sounds

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like one of your core values

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is aligned to being authentically you. Right.

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And one of the reasons we decided, Frank and I,

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to start this podcast was to

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actually find people exactly like you

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that are of doing them and finding a way

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to do them in a way that actually turns

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them into a brand or something that

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can actually support them and make money.

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Because I think there's a lot of

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people that don't realize that

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it's possible nowadays to do that.

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As you were saying, the rules,

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you have to follow the rules and go out there

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and go to school and get a job and go this.

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And all these rules from the past that were

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given to us are now becoming uprooted and

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shifted and changed in today's environment.

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And I really think that there's so many

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examples of people who are making what they

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want and it's working for them and they're

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finding their audience and people are getting

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excited to support what they really love.

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And I want to highlight that and ideally also

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hear from how people like you are doing it

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so that others can be inspired to do it, too.

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Oh, my gosh. Absolutely. I think

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that you really hit the nail

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on the head there. Or, you know, we've, like,

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grown up our whole lives

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being told to follow the rules,

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and we have these expectations.

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We go to school,

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we go to college, we graduate,

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we get a job.

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When we do this, we do that. And, you know,

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and that's just like,

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what we think is the path to success.

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But it's really not. Sometimes, like,

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you just have to do the scary thing and say,

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you know what? I'm gonna. I'm gonna

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not do that and see what happens, you know?

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And I feel very, like, privileged

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that I was able to do that. You know,

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I think that ultimately the most important

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thing is to really talk to yourself, like,

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go inwards, ask yourself, like,

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what do I want to do?

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What are my dreams?

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What makes me happy?

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What makes me happy?

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And I think that if you chase those

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things within you that make you you,

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I think that success will come because,

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at least for me,

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when I'm doing what I love,

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when I do something that makes me happy,

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I do a really good job at it.

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And the world can see that. And, I mean,

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I think that everybody has a unique

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and special gift that the world needs.

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I think it's doing a disservice to

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the world and to themselves if

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you're not really chasing your dreams.

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Yeah, that is so awesome. I think that's

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so important that people hear that.

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One of the things I want to, I guess,

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notice you said to go inwards

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and to look within and to do that.

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And what's interesting is in your story,

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you not only did that,

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but you also were, like,

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influenced outwards by a lot

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of things that were exciting to you, whether

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it was like the harpist and the video game.

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And I think that people have to be

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willing to try something new to be able

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to find the things that really make them happy.

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Because it sounds to me

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like you weren't going into this, being like,

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I'm going to go to graphic design,

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and I'm going to take the harp, and

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I'm going to make everything look really good,

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and then everybody's gonna. Yeah, you know,

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it's gonna blow up on Instagram.

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I've got it all panned out. Like,

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no one has any idea that you were willing

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to try stuff that you weren't doing before.

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And all of a sudden,

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it started to move in a direction that, like,

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I call that

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the flow of the universe. That's, like,

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kind of trusting a little bit when you

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go try something that you're on the right.

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That you're on the right path.

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Absolutely.

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I think you're right that, you know,

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putting yourself in situations where

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you try something new is so important,

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and it's also how we grow. You know,

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if we're not.

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If we're not doing new things,

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if we're not, like, exposing

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ourselves to new ideas or new situations,

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we're not growing.

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And I think if we're not growing,

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we're not living.

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I want to be living every day.

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I want to be discovering every day,

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and it makes me feel, like,

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so alive and happy.

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So I think that

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everybody should try to, you know, try

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to do, like, you know, a new thing, you know,

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as often as they can.

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And even if it's scary, you know, it's.

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I think it's better to, like,

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to just close your eyes and jump. Right?

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Because what do you have to lose? I mean,

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you don't want to be stuck in the same job the

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rest of your life wondering, what if? You know,

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I don't want to be that person?

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I wanted to actually

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ask a little bit more about your.

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What you do is, like,

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there's music that you put out,

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but you've got so much

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more than just that going on, really. Like,

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you have a large discord community that

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has now become pretty active and thriving.

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And I'm curious about the dynamics of, like,

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when did it become apparent

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you should create that community,

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and how did that process really go?

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Oh, my gosh. So it must have

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been a few months ago.

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And I love

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to communicate with my followers. And, I mean,

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one of the really big driving factors

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to Instagram and to my music

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was being able to engage with

540
00:22:04,010 --> 00:22:06,860
them and really get to know them. I mean,

541
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:09,410
I really loved messaging my followers, like,

542
00:22:09,450 --> 00:22:12,200
one on one, and, yeah, just, like,

543
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:13,240
getting to know them.

544
00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:15,580
But it soon got to a point,

545
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:16,740
as I was growing,

546
00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:17,880
where it was really,

547
00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:20,920
really hard for me to, you know,

548
00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:24,510
keep up with the, you know, the same people,

549
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,110
you know, my followers, who, you know,

550
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,440
who I loved and, you know, would talk to,

551
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:33,480
but then all of these new people every day,

552
00:22:33,650 --> 00:22:36,570
and soon it was like my mailbox.

553
00:22:36,660 --> 00:22:39,380
It would just absolutely fill up. Yeah,

554
00:22:39,410 --> 00:22:40,480
I remember at one point there

555
00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:43,970
was something like 400 unread messages,

556
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:47,210
and that's when I was like, oh, my God.

557
00:22:48,190 --> 00:22:50,820
It became really hard for me to do that.

558
00:22:50,890 --> 00:22:55,250
And I also had these feelings of guilt.

559
00:22:55,950 --> 00:22:58,990
Suddenly I was taking days to respond

560
00:22:59,030 --> 00:23:02,330
to people instead of being fairly active.

561
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,770
And then it put

562
00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:06,660
me in a weird place, too, because, you know,

563
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:08,590
it made me so happy to

564
00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:10,730
have a relationship with these people.

565
00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:11,640
And all of a sudden,

566
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,640
there was more of a disconnect because

567
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,000
I wasn't able to talk and foster

568
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,220
these relationships anymore

569
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,640
just because it was just physically

570
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,230
impossible to do all of that and, you know,

571
00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:25,900
and just try to fit it into a day.

572
00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:27,190
It was impossible.

573
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:29,460
So somebody said, well,

574
00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:32,770
you should make a discord. And, you know,

575
00:23:32,850 --> 00:23:35,830
and instead of messaging people like, you know,

576
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,510
one on one,

577
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,910
it's more of a community.

578
00:23:38,650 --> 00:23:40,830
So I did, and it, you know,

579
00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:43,140
like a pretty, like, slow growth.

580
00:23:43,270 --> 00:23:45,850
A lot of my followers, you know, much

581
00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:49,030
prefer the kind of one on one, you know, like,

582
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,670
messaging on instagram. But, like,

583
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480
a fair amount have come over to discord,

584
00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:57,180
and we really have created

585
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,080
this really wonderful and fun community.

586
00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:06,050
We have movie nights, you know,

587
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,490
and it's just kind of a very,

588
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,210
very open and accepting atmosphere where people

589
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,540
can share whatever they want and, you know,

590
00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:17,800
be as quirky and creative

591
00:24:17,850 --> 00:24:20,060
and weird or whatever they want.

592
00:24:20,140 --> 00:24:22,310
And it's just like, it's just, like,

593
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:26,890
totally accepted. And, I mean, I love that.

594
00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:27,970
That's another thing.

595
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,610
I wasn't expecting

596
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,870
to come out of this, but, you know,

597
00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:34,190
a few people have told me that, you know,

598
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:35,670
especially during the pandemic,

599
00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:37,540
it's really hard to have that

600
00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:40,650
sense of community and that, like, you know,

601
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,430
my discord has been, like,

602
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:45,960
really helpful to some people and, you know,

603
00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:48,170
kind of like being that.

604
00:24:48,550 --> 00:24:49,770
So that that makes

605
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,010
you really happy to hear that. You're right.

606
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:54,360
I it's not just harp music.

607
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:56,400
It's more than that,

608
00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:59,720
and it's still growing every day.

609
00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:02,640
I'm curious for building a community.

610
00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:04,880
If someone else was wanting

611
00:25:04,910 --> 00:25:06,460
to do what you've done because

612
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,880
you've done it fairly successfully,

613
00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:11,460
what advice would you give

614
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,430
them if they wanted to build out

615
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440
a community like you have on discord?

616
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,310
Let's see.

617
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
It's important to have

618
00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:24,000
a following outside of discord first. Like,

619
00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:24,640
I think it would be

620
00:25:24,650 --> 00:25:26,610
really hard to just write, like,

621
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,550
to just make a discord without already

622
00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:31,970
having a little bit of a following, I think.

623
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,810
Totally.

624
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:35,630
I don't even know how, actually. Like,

625
00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:36,970
I know that there's kind of, like,

626
00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:38,630
I know that there's a search bar, like,

627
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:41,090
in Discord channels and stuff,

628
00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:43,000
but I've never used it.

629
00:25:43,050 --> 00:25:44,200
And I don't know,

630
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:45,490
I think that it's important to

631
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,410
already have that connection

632
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:50,970
outside of discord to be able to, like,

633
00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:53,000
kind of come from someplace

634
00:25:53,050 --> 00:25:55,530
and then use discord as a.

635
00:25:56,270 --> 00:25:57,960
Like a house, you know, where every.

636
00:25:58,010 --> 00:25:59,030
People come from all

637
00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:02,050
over to kind of, like, congregate and, like,

638
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,160
check in or,

639
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:04,360
like a communal house,

640
00:26:04,410 --> 00:26:06,930
a communal space or. Yeah,

641
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:09,970
people could come and. Yeah.

642
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,580
So you don't. They

643
00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:12,110
don't necessarily just, like, walk

644
00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:14,660
in your house off the street. They'll, like,

645
00:26:14,730 --> 00:26:16,490
meet you somewhere else.

646
00:26:16,620 --> 00:26:19,500
I really like that this is just a metaphor.

647
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Well, I like the metaphor of the house

648
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,640
because it's not just because you do, like,

649
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,080
movie nights at the house. Right.

650
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,940
And people are getting together

651
00:26:28,050 --> 00:26:29,630
on a regular night for a movie night,

652
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,410
or you have events or rooms

653
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,300
for people to be able to go hang out

654
00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:36,810
in if they really like certain things. Like,

655
00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:38,450
I actually think the house analogy

656
00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:40,060
is a really good one for

657
00:26:40,150 --> 00:26:42,390
creating a community and a discord.

658
00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:46,600
Yeah. I also think that it's important to have

659
00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:49,980
people who actively, like, supporting. Like,

660
00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:52,990
I have some great mods because I can't

661
00:26:53,030 --> 00:26:55,980
be on it all the time, you know? So it's, like,

662
00:26:56,050 --> 00:26:57,240
nice to have. Yeah.

663
00:26:57,290 --> 00:26:59,560
People who will kind of,

664
00:26:59,690 --> 00:27:01,330
I don't want to say keep the show

665
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,540
going when I'm not there because

666
00:27:02,570 --> 00:27:05,330
it's not like that at all, but, you know,

667
00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:06,700
just to have, like, support.

668
00:27:06,850 --> 00:27:10,150
So I'm really lucky where I have some. I mean,

669
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:12,820
everybody in my discord is wonderful,

670
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,520
all of the members,

671
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,700
but I'm very

672
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:18,230
grateful for my awesome mods. They're like.

673
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:19,020
I mean, honestly,

674
00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:19,670
it really feels

675
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,020
like we're all friends or, like, a family.

676
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,910
One of the questions that

677
00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:26,310
we end up asking people is,

678
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:28,230
what is some advice that you may

679
00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:30,790
have received in your niche that

680
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,100
you think is actually terrible advice?

681
00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:40,760
Okay. Oh, man. I have to

682
00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:43,120
think about this one. This is, like, specific,

683
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:45,690
but I know that I have been given

684
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,770
some advice that it's, like, what? You know,

685
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,690
and I can't, like, think of anything, like,

686
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,670
specifically right now,

687
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,960
but I think that what's important is do.

688
00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:02,530
Do what you want to do just because, you know,

689
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,160
receiving advice from people,

690
00:28:04,290 --> 00:28:05,560
it can be helpful, but, like,

691
00:28:05,610 --> 00:28:07,720
it doesn't matter what anyone else says, like,

692
00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:09,280
do it because you want to do it.

693
00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:11,600
And I think that the biggest

694
00:28:11,650 --> 00:28:14,040
thing is to trust your gut, you know,

695
00:28:14,090 --> 00:28:15,290
just if something doesn't

696
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,200
feel right or if they give you

697
00:28:16,210 --> 00:28:17,680
advice that you don't want to do, like,

698
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,250
don't do it, you know, like,

699
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:20,340
it's not worth it.

700
00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:21,920
And I think that it's something

701
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,900
that we all have had to learn, you know?

702
00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:25,660
Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Yeah.

703
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:26,740
I think the older I get,

704
00:28:26,780 --> 00:28:29,510
the more I trust my gut on things, because

705
00:28:29,550 --> 00:28:31,550
the gut seems to grow with age, and, like,

706
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:33,010
it tends to get a little bit

707
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,370
smarter with age and experience, too. Right.

708
00:28:35,420 --> 00:28:38,730
So trust your gut even when you're young.

709
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,870
Exactly. I think that the more we trust

710
00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:44,350
our gut and communicate and listen to it, like,

711
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:45,990
the better we get, like,

712
00:28:46,150 --> 00:28:49,740
communicating and growing with it.

713
00:28:49,810 --> 00:28:51,410
So it's just like,

714
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080
you get better and better at it. Yeah. And then

715
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:57,130
it almost just becomes second nature, you know?

716
00:28:57,530 --> 00:28:58,150
Yeah.

717
00:28:58,260 --> 00:28:59,750
Here's a question I have for you. Like,

718
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:02,820
what's the future for melogy?

719
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:04,880
Are you looking to potentially, like,

720
00:29:04,990 --> 00:29:06,710
put out an album,

721
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,510
or are you looking, like,

722
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,810
compose music for a game or for people,

723
00:29:11,890 --> 00:29:12,620
if they wanted it,

724
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:13,930
for their campaigns or something?

725
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:14,530
I'm just curious,

726
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:17,260
do you have any future aspirations in that way?

727
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:18,670
Oh, heck, yeah.

728
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,570
I have so many plans and, you know,

729
00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:25,080
goals and dreams, and I.

730
00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:26,300
That's why it's like,

731
00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:28,620
melody is just a little bud right now,

732
00:29:28,690 --> 00:29:31,590
and there's so much exciting potential.

733
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:34,060
So that's also why it's, like,

734
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,140
such an exciting time for me, because I could.

735
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,580
There's so much I can do and I want to do.

736
00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:42,980
I absolutely want

737
00:29:43,030 --> 00:29:46,120
to start doing some composition,

738
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,640
and I did.

739
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:48,450
I composed

740
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:52,670
a song a couple months ago, and that's, like,

741
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:55,310
I would love to release an album,

742
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,270
and people are always asking for, you know,

743
00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:01,510
when is your album coming out?

744
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:04,660
You know, so it's, like,

745
00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:06,190
something that I'm very,

746
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:10,700
very excited to start working on and plan for.

747
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:14,230
So that's on my radar. Absolutely.

748
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:16,140
Is there anything else that you really

749
00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:20,660
want to do under the Melanjee brand?

750
00:30:20,810 --> 00:30:22,770
It doesn't have to be music related, either.

751
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:24,110
Where else do you see it going?

752
00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:24,740
I mean, maybe

753
00:30:24,770 --> 00:30:27,070
there's something that you'd like to plug kind

754
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:29,970
of for your listeners to keep an eye out for.

755
00:30:30,270 --> 00:30:33,210
Yeah, I'm gonna start streaming

756
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,130
soon on twitch. You know, that's, like,

757
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:41,840
another thing that everybody is asking about.

758
00:30:42,020 --> 00:30:44,680
So streaming is kind of, like

759
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,980
that big goal that I've been working towards,

760
00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:50,330
and I'm excited, you know, to

761
00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:54,920
kind of have that melody presence, streaming,

762
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,900
and I think that that's also going to be

763
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:59,730
another way to kind of have a community

764
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:04,300
and to be more like, engaged, you know,

765
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,560
with my followers.

766
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,630
So I'm super pumped about streaming.

767
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:12,700
You know, things are, like,

768
00:31:12,850 --> 00:31:15,640
opening up after the. You know, it's.

769
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,670
The pandemic is ongoing,

770
00:31:17,780 --> 00:31:21,320
but it's not as closed off as we were.

771
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,990
And I'm gonna be playing, like,

772
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:27,060
different events. Like, I'm playing.

773
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,990
I'm actually playing, like,

774
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:36,520
a luciferian service in early fall. Yeah.

775
00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:39,390
And people. Yeah.

776
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,210
And so there's a lot of, like, you know,

777
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,310
there's things in

778
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Boston that are happening, like, live events,

779
00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:47,950
so it's cool. Like, you know, right now,

780
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,310
Melody is all virtual,

781
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,700
and yet there's the real world, you know,

782
00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:57,130
that has exciting opportunities, and, you know,

783
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080
people are always reaching out to me.

784
00:31:59,130 --> 00:31:59,770
So it's a.

785
00:31:59,810 --> 00:32:01,440
That's a whole new

786
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:04,910
frontier of the real dimension,

787
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640
melody appearing in the, you know, in

788
00:32:07,670 --> 00:32:10,900
the body. So, yeah, so, I mean, gosh, there's.

789
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:14,190
There is so much that is coming.

790
00:32:15,130 --> 00:32:16,060
That's very cool.

791
00:32:16,110 --> 00:32:18,300
And it's so much of a testament to being, like,

792
00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:20,850
if you put yourself out there and start

793
00:32:20,890 --> 00:32:23,250
moving in the direction and again, like,

794
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:25,670
adjust as needed to grow and

795
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:27,910
get better and keep cultivating that,

796
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,150
eventually opportunities

797
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:31,930
come to you. Right. I mean, I know we. What?

798
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:33,740
We reached out to you to come on the podcast,

799
00:32:33,790 --> 00:32:36,170
but I was going to guess that you've

800
00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:38,260
probably had people asking you

801
00:32:38,270 --> 00:32:42,470
to play or, like. Or, I mean, Lucifer loose. I

802
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,970
don't know how to say that. Luciferian service.

803
00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:46,580
That's luciferian service.

804
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:47,280
I think I've said that.

805
00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:47,630
Right.

806
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,000
But, like, that's got to be a unique, you know,

807
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:52,210
opportunity for them to

808
00:32:52,330 --> 00:32:54,040
bring in a harpist to do that. Like, that's.

809
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:56,370
That's pretty cool, right?

810
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:58,720
You must spend. I mean, is it really? You

811
00:32:58,730 --> 00:33:00,440
do have your hand in so many different things.

812
00:33:00,490 --> 00:33:01,440
It sounds like you

813
00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:03,250
are just very busy doing that.

814
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,170
Is it really busy every day? Like,

815
00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:07,770
do every day for that?

816
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,500
Oh, every day, yeah. I feel every hour, I

817
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:14,860
try to be as productive as I can. And, I mean,

818
00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:15,450
I love it.

819
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,980
It hardly feels like working, you know, it's.

820
00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:19,070
But it's definitely.

821
00:33:19,150 --> 00:33:19,810
It's definitely

822
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:22,210
a lot of work, you know, especially, you know,

823
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,190
reminding myself to, like, promote,

824
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:26,130
you know, or, oh, I have to, like, I have

825
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:28,850
to remember to post this, you know, on YouTube,

826
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:30,470
and then I have to post about

827
00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:32,390
it on my other platforms to say, hey,

828
00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:34,460
check out this video. So, you know,

829
00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:35,630
that the self promoting

830
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:39,010
is one thing that, like, whoa, you know,

831
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:40,090
I could get tiring.

832
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280
You know, you go, probably. Yeah. You know,

833
00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:43,540
if you talk to my followers,

834
00:33:43,650 --> 00:33:45,650
I'm not the greatest at it. It.

835
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,340
Somehow it works out of.

836
00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:49,130
Do you have, like,

837
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,370
a schedule where you're like, I'm

838
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,420
making content between this time and this time,

839
00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:53,720
and I do that every day,

840
00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:55,270
or is it more free form

841
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,960
for you and you kind of make it.

842
00:33:57,050 --> 00:33:58,760
Just make it happen based on.

843
00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:00,800
I have a, like,

844
00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:02,860
a little calendar thing, and I have.

845
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:06,260
I'm surrounded by four notebooks, actually,

846
00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:07,080
as we're speaking.

847
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:08,780
I have notebooks everywhere.

848
00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:11,500
I'm always jotting down ideas on my phone.

849
00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:13,239
I'm more like, you know,

850
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:15,370
I'll have ideas or. Or, you know, I'll wake

851
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,370
up in the morning and I'll write down, okay,

852
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,920
I need to do these things today,

853
00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:20,560
and I'll kind of give myself

854
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:22,989
just to keep myself, like, on task. Like,

855
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,409
I'll give myself, like, a range, you know,

856
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,159
I'll be like, okay,

857
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:26,750
try to do this.

858
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,260
This will probably take 3 hours,

859
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:29,610
you know, blah, blah, blah, you know,

860
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,280
just to kind of, like, keep myself accountable.

861
00:34:32,429 --> 00:34:35,870
I definitely don't follow it to a, like,

862
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,000
the minute or anything,

863
00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:37,800
but it just

864
00:34:37,870 --> 00:34:40,050
kind of helps keep me motivated, you know,

865
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,739
as I'm doing this. Basically,

866
00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:43,659
this is like a one woman show,

867
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:45,139
and I'm making it happen.

868
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:47,300
So I, you know, I use, you know,

869
00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:50,960
I use things like calendars and notebooks as

870
00:34:51,070 --> 00:34:54,179
just kind of like a little guide for myself,

871
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:57,640
but I don't adhere to the structures, like,

872
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:58,920
rigidly at all.

873
00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:02,470
I definitely do my best when I have.

874
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,130
When I feel like I have, you know, what,

875
00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:07,400
a fasten area of creation, like,

876
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:09,360
with limitless possibility.

877
00:35:09,550 --> 00:35:11,040
And that's also why I'm

878
00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:14,000
a little bit of a night owl. I love, you know,

879
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:16,440
just kind of having all night to, you know,

880
00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:19,590
if I'm working on a new song and, you know,

881
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,890
and I don't have a deadline, I don't.

882
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,390
I can forget about time for a while and just

883
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,590
immerse myself in music or in art, you know,

884
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,600
or a new idea.

885
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:32,570
And that's important to me,

886
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,780
and I'm just so happy that I'm able to do that.

887
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:37,640
Yeah, I totally relate to that.

888
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:39,110
As far as, like, music

889
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,280
or projects or even editing these podcasts,

890
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:44,200
it's like the night is your friend.

891
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:46,160
You can just go until it's done,

892
00:35:46,350 --> 00:35:49,060
and nobody's gonna bother you after, like,

893
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,360
a certain time, that time between, like,

894
00:35:51,390 --> 00:35:53,450
midnight and 03:00 a.m. when everyone else.

895
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,930
I would never talk to someone at this hour.

896
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,920
I love that because you just

897
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:58,760
could be productive and get things done.

898
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,730
Absolutely hyper focus.

899
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:03,250
I probably pull about

900
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,610
one all nighter a week, too, so, you know,

901
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,650
and that's when I'm, you know,

902
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,740
the most productive and I get, you know,

903
00:36:10,770 --> 00:36:12,900
I feel the most me, you know,

904
00:36:12,930 --> 00:36:15,900
and the most melody, you know, it's usually,

905
00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:17,640
you know, those all nighters, you know,

906
00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:18,800
I love watching the sun

907
00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:21,260
come up and sort of feeling like, you know,

908
00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:23,620
I'm not adhering to, like, what's expected,

909
00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:24,330
you know,

910
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,570
I don't have to.

911
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:28,530
I'll be a vampire if I want to be.

912
00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:30,140
I hate watching the sunrise.

913
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:31,690
It's just a personal thing.

914
00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:34,110
I just can't tell. Oh, no.

915
00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:34,760
Oh, no.

916
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,510
I can't watch

917
00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:37,070
the sunrise because then I've, like,

918
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:38,690
not gotten any good sleep.

919
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,570
So I would rather wake up

920
00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:43,810
and watch the sunrise early than, oh, wow.

921
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:47,160
On the opposite. I could not. Yeah, I cannot.

922
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,540
I can't get up early.

923
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,300
I think the only time I could watch the sunrise

924
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:53,780
is literally if I just stay up all night.

925
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:55,430
That's pretty much been the

926
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,970
only time I've ever seen it either.

927
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,160
Because once you get into the flow of things,

928
00:36:59,290 --> 00:37:00,590
you don't want to get out of it.

929
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,800
You got to keep going.

930
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:04,970
Yeah. That's how I've always been, too.

931
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,050
Well, I've heard from musicians and people

932
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,110
who do this kind of work that once you capture

933
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,850
the spirit or you've got your flow going,

934
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,240
you don't want to. You just, like,

935
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:16,290
when you're creative,

936
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,220
that's when you have to take advantage of it,

937
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:20,790
and you just got to do that until it ends.

938
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:22,570
And if you don't capture it,

939
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:24,110
it may be lost. Whatever.

940
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:26,670
That creation was going to be fleeting.

941
00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:27,370
You know,

942
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,280
and it's something

943
00:37:28,330 --> 00:37:30,410
that I can't pencil in. Okay.

944
00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:31,940
From two to five today,

945
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:33,310
I'm going to be really creative

946
00:37:33,350 --> 00:37:36,650
and compose a new piece. You know, it's.

947
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:38,370
I'm the type of person

948
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,530
where I need to have that inspiration,

949
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,490
that spark, and, you know,

950
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,260
and I have to really feel it with my heart,

951
00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:46,250
and that's when the magic happens.

952
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,640
So I can't, you know,

953
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:49,510
I can't pencil in the magic.

954
00:37:51,010 --> 00:37:51,390
Yeah.

955
00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:52,330
I love that quote.

956
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:53,150
That's a great quote.

957
00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:54,750
You can't pencil in the magic.

958
00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:57,430
That's like a bad. I don't know.

959
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,890
It's like a bad pop song or something.

960
00:37:58,930 --> 00:37:59,600
It'd be the kind of

961
00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:02,240
thing on a Lisa Frank binder.

962
00:38:02,430 --> 00:38:06,650
Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, it's like,

963
00:38:06,690 --> 00:38:07,950
written on a pencil.

964
00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:09,320
Yeah. Right?

965
00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:10,270
I can make that.

966
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:11,870
I can make that my merch. Like,

967
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,550
it's gonna be like my new merch.

968
00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:15,930
Yeah, I think you should, actually.

969
00:38:17,230 --> 00:38:19,910
It's like an italicized font with, like,

970
00:38:19,950 --> 00:38:22,330
the quotations I'd buy that.

971
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:23,880
Someone's writing.

972
00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,930
Yeah, somebody's writing it.

973
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:27,420
I get it on, like,

974
00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:28,410
a hand towel

975
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,200
or something that I can take, like, when

976
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:32,450
I go to the gym and it's like, really, like,

977
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,820
pink and bright and rainbowy. Like,

978
00:38:35,890 --> 00:38:37,410
have that around my shoulders.

979
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:42,450
I love that I'm just imagining, like, eighties

980
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,610
style art where there's, like, you know,

981
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,180
I could just like

982
00:38:45,210 --> 00:38:46,980
that kid who's like the, you know,

983
00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:47,800
it's like that school

984
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:49,910
portrait and he's got his, like, tuba,

985
00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:50,800
but then he has, like,

986
00:38:50,830 --> 00:38:53,470
his face, like, floating above, you know,

987
00:38:53,770 --> 00:38:54,870
and then you have it in, like,

988
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:56,550
this dreamy type face.

989
00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:59,770
I think if we make merch for every episode,

990
00:38:59,810 --> 00:39:00,950
that's what's on the merch. So.

991
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:01,630
Yeah.

992
00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:04,720
Which is the thing I think would

993
00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:06,590
be really fun one day to be like,

994
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:08,380
every episode gets a piece of merch,

995
00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:11,100
but we'll see.

996
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:12,290
I know podcasts that do that.

997
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:13,220
They actually have, like,

998
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:14,790
a piece of merch. Like,

999
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:16,310
they have a phrase or something funny

1000
00:39:16,340 --> 00:39:18,330
that comes out of whatever that episode is,

1001
00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:19,370
and it becomes a person.

1002
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:21,880
About the logistics, man, I love it.

1003
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:22,920
Oh, my God. I love it.

1004
00:39:22,930 --> 00:39:25,370
It's just like a big picture person.

1005
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:26,650
I don't stress on logistics.

1006
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,950
Frank's very much logistics guy,

1007
00:39:28,990 --> 00:39:30,320
where he's like, I don't know.

1008
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:31,950
We could do that, man. I don't know.

1009
00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:35,950
A lot of work. Trust me, man.

1010
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:37,880
This is the big picture stuff. This is.

1011
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:39,580
We'll get them all in. They'll be excited.

1012
00:39:39,650 --> 00:39:40,890
They'll get their own teacher.

1013
00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:42,180
Yeah, okay, Chris. Yeah.

1014
00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:43,810
Okay, Chris. Yeah. Okay.

1015
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:47,320
Empire, like, the whole thing

1016
00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:48,780
with nerdpreneur is kind of like,

1017
00:39:48,850 --> 00:39:50,000
the last guy we interviewed

1018
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:53,000
was a guy who reads tarantulas, for example.

1019
00:39:53,090 --> 00:39:54,420
Oh, my God.

1020
00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:56,810
Completely, completely different

1021
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,570
area than where we are. We interviewed.

1022
00:40:00,950 --> 00:40:03,250
We interviewed a board game designer.

1023
00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:05,770
We interviewed someone

1024
00:40:05,860 --> 00:40:08,280
who was an artist who does, like,

1025
00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:11,570
animation and d and d arth. Like,

1026
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,610
I hear we have a magician who's a zombie.

1027
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,410
A zombie magician coming up.

1028
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,660
Are you kidding?

1029
00:40:16,810 --> 00:40:17,680
Because these are people

1030
00:40:17,730 --> 00:40:19,870
that are well known in their niche,

1031
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:21,190
but a lot of other people don't,

1032
00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:22,870
are just not aware that it's a niche.

1033
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:23,610
Yeah.

1034
00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:25,090
Like, you can

1035
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,010
make money doing that. It's like, yes, you can.

1036
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:30,470
There's so many things that's like,

1037
00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:32,810
that's really cool. Like,

1038
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,770
telling me about the other people

1039
00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:36,530
that you're having on this show, like,

1040
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:39,680
the person who breeds tarantulas. Like, I mean,

1041
00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:41,590
I love that because it's true.

1042
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,930
Something like that is nerdy.

1043
00:40:44,010 --> 00:40:45,990
But I think that, like, the average Joe,

1044
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:48,680
when you ask them when you say, like, oh,

1045
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:49,410
what's a nerd?

1046
00:40:49,450 --> 00:40:50,640
Or what is nerdy?

1047
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:52,990
Usually they think of something like.

1048
00:40:53,330 --> 00:40:54,190
Like what we were saying,

1049
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:56,250
like Star wars or, like, somebody

1050
00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:59,490
who's really into math or, like, space,

1051
00:40:59,650 --> 00:41:01,410
you know, but nerdy. Like,

1052
00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:03,590
I think one of the questions.

1053
00:41:04,090 --> 00:41:05,430
How would you define a nerd?

1054
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,490
I. Yeah. And I think I was thinking about it,

1055
00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:11,190
and I think that

1056
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:14,020
it's someone who's. Who's just, like,

1057
00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:16,980
very passionate, you know, about, like,

1058
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,700
exactly what this is all about, about a niche,

1059
00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:22,000
about something, you know, so, like, specific.

1060
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,500
And they're just, you know,

1061
00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:26,220
their knowledge of it is, you know,

1062
00:41:26,310 --> 00:41:27,870
it's just kind of like their world.

1063
00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:30,050
So I think that, you know, anybody

1064
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,960
could be a nerd and without being, like,

1065
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:33,190
the stereotypical

1066
00:41:33,610 --> 00:41:35,590
nerd that we think of, you know, if you're.

1067
00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:38,350
If you're really into something, and. And it's.

1068
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:39,670
And it's a good thing.

1069
00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:41,130
I think it's a great thing.

1070
00:41:41,170 --> 00:41:43,160
I love being a nerd. You know, I

1071
00:41:43,230 --> 00:41:46,220
I have books of medieval manuscripts, you know,

1072
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:47,550
in my bookcase, I'm.

1073
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,670
I'm a big art nerd, you know,

1074
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,800
and I like weird music, and, I mean,

1075
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:55,230
that's something I pride myself in, you know,

1076
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:56,590
of my knowledge

1077
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:58,520
and my interest in it, you know?

1078
00:41:58,570 --> 00:41:59,190
So, yeah, I just

1079
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,600
wanted to add a nerd. You know,

1080
00:42:01,690 --> 00:42:04,300
one of the things that Chris and I connect

1081
00:42:04,340 --> 00:42:06,320
on is that a nerd is someone that, when you

1082
00:42:06,350 --> 00:42:08,300
talk to them about what they're nerdy about,

1083
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,010
you see the light and

1084
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,000
you see the passion in their eyes, and you

1085
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:15,080
get inspired a little bit. You're like, wow,

1086
00:42:15,250 --> 00:42:16,680
I want to hear more.

1087
00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:19,010
I don't care about this passion you have,

1088
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,830
but I care about hearing about it from you.

1089
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,210
Yeah. Somebody who I can think

1090
00:42:24,250 --> 00:42:27,830
of in my life who had, you know, a major.

1091
00:42:28,850 --> 00:42:30,010
What's that word?

1092
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:33,840
Influence on me growing up was actually my dad,

1093
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:37,680
obviously influence, but, you know, he's, like,

1094
00:42:37,790 --> 00:42:39,790
the big nerd of my life. Like,

1095
00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:41,990
our house growing

1096
00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:44,350
up is filled with antique bottles,

1097
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,050
and he loves history,

1098
00:42:47,170 --> 00:42:50,230
and he was obsessed with, like,

1099
00:42:50,350 --> 00:42:53,440
digging up old antique bottles that

1100
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,930
he would located on maps that are, like,

1101
00:42:56,980 --> 00:43:00,240
100 years old or more on these really,

1102
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,530
really old maps and, like,

1103
00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:03,040
and figuring out where.

1104
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,380
Where he could find really,

1105
00:43:04,430 --> 00:43:06,310
really old things,

1106
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:07,940
and he would do it,

1107
00:43:08,030 --> 00:43:09,460
and it was so cool.

1108
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:10,590
Our house growing

1109
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:13,430
up was almost like a bottle workshop, you know?

1110
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:14,350
And he was like, he

1111
00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:17,070
had books all about them, and. And, you know,

1112
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,730
and you can really, like, learn so much.

1113
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:21,670
And he's the type of person, if, like,

1114
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,830
you could ask him anything about it,

1115
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:26,990
he's like an encyclopedia of information.

1116
00:43:27,690 --> 00:43:30,890
So I definitely get.

1117
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:31,720
I definitely get

1118
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:34,350
a little bit of my very intense, like,

1119
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:36,910
passion nerdiness from him.

1120
00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:40,060
So your dad was literally, like,

1121
00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:42,110
a treasure hunter in some way. Like,

1122
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,340
he had treasure maps that he was going, like,

1123
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:46,620
x marks the spot.

1124
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:49,440
He goes and finds about a bottle there somehow.

1125
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,540
Yeah, that's.

1126
00:43:50,570 --> 00:43:52,410
So that's a unique colony.

1127
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:55,600
Yeah. Like, usually along streams or, you know,

1128
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,540
in New England, you know, especially

1129
00:43:57,610 --> 00:44:00,210
in the woods where there were farmlands, like,

1130
00:44:00,260 --> 00:44:02,640
200 or more years ago. You can.

1131
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,930
You know that because of the stone walls

1132
00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:07,850
is how people separated, you know, their land.

1133
00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:09,930
And that's a lot of the time along

1134
00:44:10,050 --> 00:44:12,080
the borders is where people threw,

1135
00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:14,190
you know, their. Their trash, you know,

1136
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,990
and stuff like that. So you can. I mean,

1137
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,340
you could go there today,

1138
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:18,460
and you could probably

1139
00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:20,670
find some really cool stuff. You know,

1140
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,350
it's all about, like,

1141
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:25,470
knowing where to look, but, yeah,

1142
00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:27,150
it's really fun.

1143
00:44:27,340 --> 00:44:27,830
Totally.

1144
00:44:27,860 --> 00:44:28,550
It is.

1145
00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:29,750
So now that you're

1146
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:31,390
building up followers and you're. You're.

1147
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,950
You're growing, I'm curious, like,

1148
00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:34,900
if you had a million followers,

1149
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:36,560
what advice would you give them?

1150
00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:39,540
If I had a million followers right now.

1151
00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:40,370
Right now?

1152
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,420
I mean, I guess, like,

1153
00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:44,300
kind of what I already

1154
00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:47,030
say to my followers, especially, you know,

1155
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,690
if I'm talking to a follower who's

1156
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,480
feeling a little down or they're, you know,

1157
00:44:52,510 --> 00:44:53,960
they're feeling a little, like,

1158
00:44:54,070 --> 00:44:56,760
directionless or they're feeling lost in life,

1159
00:44:56,890 --> 00:44:59,400
which I think is extremely.

1160
00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:01,520
I think everybody feels that way,

1161
00:45:01,570 --> 00:45:03,750
and I think it's very normal to feel that way.

1162
00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:06,260
And it's kind of a part of our human

1163
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,860
desire to have direction in our lives.

1164
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,460
I think that when we're feeling

1165
00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:14,930
a little lost or directionless is

1166
00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:17,960
actually a really exciting time. Because it's.

1167
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,760
That moment is when, you know,

1168
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,100
it's when the spark.

1169
00:45:22,270 --> 00:45:24,590
You know, it's when you have, like, the flint,

1170
00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:26,560
and that's when the spark happens.

1171
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,350
You have nothing,

1172
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:28,370
but then you have a.

1173
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:29,600
You have an idea,

1174
00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:31,360
and it's basically

1175
00:45:31,450 --> 00:45:34,080
the potential that is so exciting.

1176
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:36,960
So I think that people really should

1177
00:45:37,110 --> 00:45:40,240
trust themselves and figure

1178
00:45:40,270 --> 00:45:42,510
out what they want to do. I know I'm, like,

1179
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,770
reiterating what I said before,

1180
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,920
but really go after your dreams. Oh, my God.

1181
00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:50,230
I know. Everybody says that, and it's like,

1182
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,110
nobody wants to hear that shit, right?

1183
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,190
Because it's kind of, like.

1184
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:54,890
It sounds like bullshit.

1185
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,750
But I think that

1186
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,440
there's different ways of interpret, you know,

1187
00:45:59,470 --> 00:46:02,220
interpreting that sentence to mean something.

1188
00:46:02,340 --> 00:46:05,120
Personally, if we're feeling lost,

1189
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:06,200
that's the best time,

1190
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:09,000
because that's when we discover something new.

1191
00:46:09,110 --> 00:46:13,050
So don't think of it as if there's nothing.

1192
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,560
It's the opposite of nothing. It's everything,

1193
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:17,770
and it's the potential for everything.

1194
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,000
So I think that your mindset is important.

1195
00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:24,610
Try to be optimistic and tell yourself,

1196
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:28,530
I am a person full of endless ideas,

1197
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,250
and I have a unique brain

1198
00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:35,100
and something unique that the world, you know,

1199
00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:36,640
that I can offer the world.

1200
00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:39,930
And so really approach it with, like,

1201
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:43,160
an optimistic mindset,

1202
00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:45,060
and you'll be so surprised

1203
00:46:45,170 --> 00:46:46,920
to see how far that will take you.

1204
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:48,040
And you'll

1205
00:46:48,090 --> 00:46:50,150
be really surprised with yourself, too.

1206
00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:51,820
That's awesome. I mean,

1207
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:53,770
I love the trust yourself in.

1208
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,450
That is so, so key, you know,

1209
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,810
to step out of anywhere where you are.

1210
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,530
You have to trust yourself. And I hope, yeah,

1211
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,790
I hope that everybody listens

1212
00:47:02,830 --> 00:47:06,770
to that because that's so, so important.

1213
00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:09,710
The, the power of mindset that you mentioned,

1214
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:11,200
that is a huge thing to me. And,

1215
00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:13,340
I mean, I won't, I won't go off, but I really,

1216
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,930
I'm really having to pull

1217
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,120
the reins back here on all of this, like,

1218
00:47:17,170 --> 00:47:18,490
purpose and meaning, and I,

1219
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,590
and I love it. And I,

1220
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,970
and I also just want to call out

1221
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,310
how cool it is that what you just said.

1222
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,550
The advice you just gave ties into what you

1223
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,680
were saying earlier about what really pulled

1224
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:30,720
you into this in the first place was, you know,

1225
00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:32,980
healing and helping and engaging with people.

1226
00:47:33,060 --> 00:47:34,150
And the advice you

1227
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,160
just gave would be something that's, that's

1228
00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:39,590
healing and helping someone that might need it.

1229
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,590
So that's so cool.

1230
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,210
I was just say,

1231
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:43,000
following your heart, too, right? Like,

1232
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:44,330
so many people are, I think,

1233
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,170
afraid to do that or they're afraid to

1234
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,930
follow where their heart is taking them.

1235
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,390
And it's probably

1236
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,090
taking you somewhere for a reason.

1237
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,640
So you should try.

1238
00:47:53,260 --> 00:47:56,700
Yes, I absolutely believe it. Sometimes

1239
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:59,060
we just, you know, and it's scary, you know,

1240
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:00,720
having to kind of blindly follow

1241
00:48:00,810 --> 00:48:03,280
something through the darkness. But, I mean,

1242
00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:04,790
that's what the frontier is.

1243
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,110
It's mysterious and it dark,

1244
00:48:07,180 --> 00:48:08,610
and we don't know what to expect,

1245
00:48:08,740 --> 00:48:11,100
but that's how we discover new things. And

1246
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:13,360
it's like in a video game when you're exploring

1247
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,890
new territory and it's dark on the map,

1248
00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:16,970
you have to just.

1249
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:19,720
You have to just go right for it. You know,

1250
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,540
there's nothing else you can do.

1251
00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:23,420
That's right. That's right. You can't.

1252
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:24,820
And how boring does it get if you

1253
00:48:24,830 --> 00:48:26,810
just knew what everything was coming, right.

1254
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,450
Imagine it's like playing the same dungeon

1255
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:31,710
over and over and over again just because

1256
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:33,610
you can't beat it is so frustrating

1257
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:35,500
because you know what's coming. But that

1258
00:48:35,550 --> 00:48:38,540
first time through is, like, the best, right?

1259
00:48:38,590 --> 00:48:40,100
Because it's so much more exciting.

1260
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,420
Adrenaline.

1261
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,980
Some people love that.

1262
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:45,340
Some people love going through the

1263
00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:47,040
same dungeon and dying over and over,

1264
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,420
and those people love the game. Dark souls.

1265
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,130
Dark scrolls.

1266
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:52,460
Dark souls.

1267
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,250
Oh, man. I tried dark souls. I was like,

1268
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:57,780
that's not my game. I'm.

1269
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,230
I want the casual playthrough where

1270
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:02,970
I feel like a badass on the first try.

1271
00:49:03,020 --> 00:49:05,820
That's so much more my style. Style of game.

1272
00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:06,680
I like far cry,

1273
00:49:06,730 --> 00:49:07,760
that kind of stuff.

1274
00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:09,600
Oh, man.

1275
00:49:09,730 --> 00:49:11,640
Well, okay, let's.

1276
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:14,000
I actually have one more thing to add,

1277
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:14,800
if that's okay.

1278
00:49:14,830 --> 00:49:15,400
Go ahead.

1279
00:49:15,550 --> 00:49:15,990
Okay.

1280
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,960
This is based off of.

1281
00:49:18,380 --> 00:49:20,160
I had a little, like, spark,

1282
00:49:20,860 --> 00:49:23,290
like moment when you said, frank,

1283
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:23,970
you said

1284
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,000
something about healing, right. And it, like,

1285
00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:31,770
related to what I had spoken about earlier,

1286
00:49:32,190 --> 00:49:34,130
wanting to, like, help people.

1287
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,180
And then I realized that

1288
00:49:36,210 --> 00:49:40,430
this all stems from this sona,

1289
00:49:40,550 --> 00:49:42,520
the champion from League of Legends,

1290
00:49:42,610 --> 00:49:44,660
who was ultimately a healer.

1291
00:49:44,770 --> 00:49:46,290
And I really loved

1292
00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:49,370
having that role in that game.

1293
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,700
I loved it, you know, and, like, I mean,

1294
00:49:51,730 --> 00:49:53,190
I was badass, too,

1295
00:49:53,310 --> 00:49:54,410
but I also loved

1296
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,860
to be the support for my team. I loved it.

1297
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,150
So it's almost just like, you know, before,

1298
00:50:02,220 --> 00:50:02,780
I was like,

1299
00:50:02,830 --> 00:50:04,780
I wanted to be a real life soda,

1300
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:07,170
and it's almost like I, like,

1301
00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:08,900
have sort of cultivated.

1302
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,870
Video games,

1303
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:14,140
influencing real life and changing.

1304
00:50:14,250 --> 00:50:15,210
Who would have thought?

1305
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:16,850
Do you play D and D,

1306
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:18,140
like dungeons and dragons?

1307
00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:19,180
I do.

1308
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,270
Oh, awesome. Well, it's just because, like,

1309
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,340
we really wish more people who

1310
00:50:26,350 --> 00:50:28,550
play D and D had that mentality of, like,

1311
00:50:28,660 --> 00:50:29,940
going into a campaign,

1312
00:50:30,070 --> 00:50:31,220
wanting to be a support for

1313
00:50:31,230 --> 00:50:33,330
the other characters and a healer and, like,

1314
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:34,150
play the game, because

1315
00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:36,600
we deal with a lot of murder hobos sometimes,

1316
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:37,390
or people who are really

1317
00:50:37,420 --> 00:50:39,000
just looking out for their character.

1318
00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:40,750
At least that tends to be

1319
00:50:41,170 --> 00:50:43,850
the advice I often get asked on my.

1320
00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:46,050
On my instagram around dealing

1321
00:50:46,090 --> 00:50:47,670
with other players is how

1322
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:50,110
to handle those types of situations.

1323
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,370
So I just wanted to, like,

1324
00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:53,750
if you already play D and D, that is awesome.

1325
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:54,810
And we want to applaud

1326
00:50:54,850 --> 00:50:56,070
more people to play D and D.

1327
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:56,710
The way you're playing

1328
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,090
D and D with that same mentality.

1329
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:00,230
It's true.

1330
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,790
There's players who.

1331
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,070
I loot the body first, you know?

1332
00:51:07,690 --> 00:51:09,630
Although I wouldn't be surprised, Melanie,

1333
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,670
if in D and D,

1334
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,520
you totally flip the script, and you're like,

1335
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:16,110
so I'm actually a rogue warlock,

1336
00:51:16,180 --> 00:51:19,960
and I survive off the sustenance of my allies,

1337
00:51:20,070 --> 00:51:22,870
so I actually take their life force to survive.

1338
00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:24,870
Then I would be like, wow, okay.

1339
00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:28,020
That was not seeing that coming,

1340
00:51:28,070 --> 00:51:29,380
but also kind of did.

1341
00:51:29,470 --> 00:51:31,040
Well, that's what D and D is great for,

1342
00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:32,140
is playing characters

1343
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:34,640
you're not really like. So, I mean,

1344
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:36,120
I love playing the people who get angry.

1345
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:37,050
I love playing barbarians

1346
00:51:37,090 --> 00:51:38,260
because they get to be angry. And

1347
00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:40,590
I rarely ever in my real life get to be angry.

1348
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:42,010
So it's fun.

1349
00:51:42,180 --> 00:51:43,930
Well, yeah. Let's go ahead and move

1350
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,970
on to the next section here. This is.

1351
00:51:46,310 --> 00:51:48,860
This is what we kind of call it, random rolls.

1352
00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:51,160
And it's kind of, it's.

1353
00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:52,870
So it's a series of questions

1354
00:51:52,990 --> 00:51:56,510
that are less serious and, and fun. You know,

1355
00:51:56,550 --> 00:51:57,580
they're light hearted.

1356
00:51:57,690 --> 00:51:58,340
So we've talked

1357
00:51:58,370 --> 00:51:59,750
a lot about business and whatnot,

1358
00:51:59,790 --> 00:52:01,040
but in this section, what

1359
00:52:01,050 --> 00:52:03,340
I'm going to ask is for you to roll a D 100.

1360
00:52:03,410 --> 00:52:06,890
Do you have D 100 or two d ten s lying around?

1361
00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:11,350
I do. All right, I'm right here.

1362
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:12,440
So we're gonna do.

1363
00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:13,470
We're gonna do a few of these.

1364
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:15,670
So go ahead and roll the first ones.

1365
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,310
Okay. I got 64.

1366
00:52:18,610 --> 00:52:20,250
Oh, perfect. All right,

1367
00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:21,870
so in dungeons and dragons. Wow,

1368
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:22,990
this is right off,

1369
00:52:23,330 --> 00:52:24,670
almost like this was planned.

1370
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,240
What's your favorite class to play?

1371
00:52:26,350 --> 00:52:28,470
Oh, definitely bard.

1372
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,190
Oh, I mean, right on the money.

1373
00:52:31,610 --> 00:52:33,100
Did we have to ask?

1374
00:52:33,260 --> 00:52:36,220
Yeah, I know it's kind of boring to say that,

1375
00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:37,900
but I always love playing

1376
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:40,390
bard because they're, you know, they're,

1377
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,320
what is it?

1378
00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:44,040
They do a little bit of everything. You know,

1379
00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:45,970
I love that, you know, if I. If

1380
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,640
I'm feeling like I want to be, like, versatile.

1381
00:52:48,750 --> 00:52:49,020
Yeah.

1382
00:52:49,060 --> 00:52:49,850
I love playing

1383
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,430
bards because you could, you know,

1384
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,150
you can be, like, silly. You know, I love,

1385
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,990
I'm really big on the charisma,

1386
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,390
so I love to, like, roleplay.

1387
00:52:58,510 --> 00:52:59,650
I even have, like,

1388
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,420
little musical instruments that I'll, like,

1389
00:53:02,490 --> 00:53:03,490
bring with me

1390
00:53:03,620 --> 00:53:06,460
sometimes to our sessions. You know,

1391
00:53:06,570 --> 00:53:08,690
I love to incorporate little

1392
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,850
props like that to make it fun. So, you know,

1393
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,070
I'm that annoying player, you know,

1394
00:53:14,110 --> 00:53:15,970
who takes up the kalimba.

1395
00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:20,420
I may have broken out of kalimba or

1396
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:23,090
two on one of our sessions, so that's awesome.

1397
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:25,460
At least with a, with a bardeen,

1398
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,280
it's like the prototypical support class.

1399
00:53:28,350 --> 00:53:30,260
It's totally in alignment with what

1400
00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:32,150
you've covered through this whole thing.

1401
00:53:32,610 --> 00:53:34,190
Before we move on to the next one,

1402
00:53:34,220 --> 00:53:35,810
I wanted to ask, because the bard,

1403
00:53:35,850 --> 00:53:37,880
there's often three types, I find.

1404
00:53:37,950 --> 00:53:40,030
There's the bard that is all about

1405
00:53:40,730 --> 00:53:43,260
being a performer for the attention.

1406
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:45,880
There's the bard that kind of likes to go out

1407
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:48,080
and make a story for themself and then there's

1408
00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:50,590
the bard that likes to seduce everything.

1409
00:53:52,780 --> 00:53:56,160
So of those three, definitely.

1410
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:58,970
Yeah, definitely. Like,

1411
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,720
try to seduce everything.

1412
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:04,920
It never works.

1413
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:06,680
Dungeon masters favorite.

1414
00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:09,730
But I mean,

1415
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,410
you have to. I mean, come on. I love. I'm like,

1416
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,020
you gotta make things interesting

1417
00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:16,400
because that's what makes it fun.

1418
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:19,290
So I always try to, like, do. Do, you know,

1419
00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:20,690
kind of push it a little and make

1420
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,050
things interesting and see what happens.

1421
00:54:23,710 --> 00:54:25,050
There are many ways to solve

1422
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,800
a problem other than to swing a sword.

1423
00:54:26,850 --> 00:54:28,450
And a bard proves that.

1424
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,610
Chris has done that so many times.

1425
00:54:31,470 --> 00:54:32,850
That's one of his best

1426
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,050
ways to get out of a situation. Well,

1427
00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:36,500
let's do the next roll.

1428
00:54:36,610 --> 00:54:37,260
All right.

1429
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:40,490
Okay, I got 49.

1430
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:45,740
You get to hunt one X Mandeh with Predator.

1431
00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:47,370
Who are you gonna hunt?

1432
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,050
Oh, I actually am not too familiar with X Men.

1433
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:52,140
How about,

1434
00:54:52,210 --> 00:54:53,570
are you familiar with Marvel?

1435
00:54:54,190 --> 00:54:57,930
Not really. Not very much. No, unfortunately.

1436
00:54:58,630 --> 00:55:01,210
I hope you guys still want to do the podcast.

1437
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:04,930
I don't know if you don't like Marvel.

1438
00:55:05,590 --> 00:55:06,410
Yeah.

1439
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:11,070
Honestly, I'm disappointed now.

1440
00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:11,770
No.

1441
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:15,280
Actually, I'm not. I'm actually probably the.

1442
00:55:15,330 --> 00:55:17,010
Between the three, I'm probably.

1443
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,060
I haven't seen a Marvel movie in forever,

1444
00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:20,050
so I'm not.

1445
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,010
Chris can't stand the movies. He's.

1446
00:55:22,060 --> 00:55:24,100
No, no, I love Dune.

1447
00:55:24,130 --> 00:55:26,610
I think it's really cool. Oh, Dune is cool.

1448
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:29,970
Dune is fun. I recently, yeah,

1449
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,520
when I saw the.

1450
00:55:31,570 --> 00:55:33,010
The movie that just came out,

1451
00:55:33,060 --> 00:55:35,550
it was awesome. Like, I, you know, I get.

1452
00:55:35,590 --> 00:55:37,860
I get very into things from, you know,

1453
00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:40,720
and I watched the. Oh, my God,

1454
00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:42,320
I watched the movie that came out.

1455
00:55:42,350 --> 00:55:45,030
What was it in the eighties? It was by.

1456
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:48,070
Who's the guy who did eraserhead?

1457
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:51,100
Where the heck. David.

1458
00:55:51,150 --> 00:55:52,070
David lynch?

1459
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,030
Yeah. David lynch.

1460
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,460
Yeah. You watched the 84 Dune?

1461
00:55:56,510 --> 00:55:59,070
Yeah. And that was like, it's so funny because

1462
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,800
I know it is super controversial, but, like,

1463
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:04,500
it's just so funny. Why, like,

1464
00:56:04,580 --> 00:56:06,770
David lynch became the director? Like,

1465
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,530
it just seems very different from the,

1466
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,830
you know, the. From the dune, like,

1467
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,160
fan base. Like, it's like, what?

1468
00:56:14,740 --> 00:56:16,870
Okay, I have an interesting antidote,

1469
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,760
anecdote about that exact thing. Cause, like,

1470
00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:24,400
dune is, you know, the iconic movie, right?

1471
00:56:24,740 --> 00:56:27,070
The iconic book from the seventies, right?

1472
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,360
And Star wars came along and it, like,

1473
00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:31,960
blew up the Sci-Fi universe.

1474
00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:35,310
And then everyone at that time was anticipating

1475
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:37,510
who's going to direct the next Star wars,

1476
00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:39,060
the Empire strikes back.

1477
00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:41,370
And they went around to a bunch of people,

1478
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,140
and their number one person was David lynch

1479
00:56:45,250 --> 00:56:47,920
was supposed to direct Empire strikes back.

1480
00:56:48,010 --> 00:56:50,290
And then what happened was he said,

1481
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,770
I'm going to go do Dune.

1482
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,210
Oh, my God.

1483
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:55,490
He turned it down because

1484
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:57,330
he didn't want to do Star wars.

1485
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,690
And we all now have this huge Star

1486
00:57:00,740 --> 00:57:02,890
wars universe that got built off of

1487
00:57:02,980 --> 00:57:05,040
the incredible awesomeness of the Empire

1488
00:57:05,090 --> 00:57:08,500
strikes back being an amazing movie.

1489
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:09,890
And I can only imagine

1490
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:12,310
if you watched the dune from 1984,

1491
00:57:12,380 --> 00:57:16,050
the tone and the discomfort that David lynch

1492
00:57:16,090 --> 00:57:18,350
makes you go through watching that movie,

1493
00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:19,760
it would have

1494
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:22,310
just tanked the whole franchise. I think.

1495
00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:25,180
I think we're all very,

1496
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:28,550
very lucky that David lynch made that choice.

1497
00:57:29,050 --> 00:57:33,780
He turned it down. Oh, my God. I. I can't. It's

1498
00:57:33,810 --> 00:57:36,920
really hard for me to imagine, like, star wars,

1499
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,490
the Empire

1500
00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:41,010
strikes back with that dune, like, like,

1501
00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:44,140
1984 lynchian vibe to it. Like,

1502
00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:45,660
I can't imagine that

1503
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:48,220
because it's just so off the wall. Like,

1504
00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:50,900
he just went so surreal, ridiculous,

1505
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:52,900
which is fun, but, like,

1506
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:54,740
what a different vibe.

1507
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,120
And I want.

1508
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,490
And I want to say something just, like,

1509
00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:59,600
we're not slamming David lynch as director.

1510
00:57:59,650 --> 00:58:00,510
We're just slamming that

1511
00:58:00,550 --> 00:58:02,090
movie for being appropriate. Because, like,

1512
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,740
if you watch, like, Mulholland drive

1513
00:58:03,810 --> 00:58:07,690
or lost highway or blue Velvet, I'm actually.

1514
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,160
I'm actually a huge David lynch fan. And if

1515
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:14,650
you actually has a masterclass, if you. Okay,

1516
00:58:14,740 --> 00:58:16,710
Masterclass doesn't sponsor this podcast,

1517
00:58:16,790 --> 00:58:17,860
so buy it if you want,

1518
00:58:17,890 --> 00:58:19,050
but I'm not going to give you a code.

1519
00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:21,290
But the thing is that they.

1520
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:21,890
If you actually

1521
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,250
go to the Masterclass and, like, watch it.

1522
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,920
He talks about how he's turning, like,

1523
00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:28,960
surrealist art because he was actually

1524
00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:31,260
a visual artist when he went to school.

1525
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:34,120
And he's now turning a lot of that

1526
00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:37,880
expressionist or surrealist art onto film.

1527
00:58:38,010 --> 00:58:41,090
And that's why his movies are so distinctly

1528
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,590
David lynch and distinctly strange.

1529
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,440
He's a visual artist trying to do that on film.

1530
00:58:47,260 --> 00:58:48,520
Absolutely.

1531
00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:50,680
I do recommend people check out lynch movies.

1532
00:58:50,730 --> 00:58:52,900
Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

1533
00:58:53,020 --> 00:58:55,460
He is such a character. Like,

1534
00:58:55,550 --> 00:58:57,240
did you know that he has,

1535
00:58:57,350 --> 00:58:58,990
on his YouTube channel,

1536
00:58:59,140 --> 00:59:02,280
he has a number of the day where he, like,

1537
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:05,850
rolls like a jar and out come these

1538
00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:08,360
numbers and he just reads the number and

1539
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:10,750
that's the number of the day. And that's it.

1540
00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:12,470
And he does it every day.

1541
00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:15,310
And he's done it every day for years.

1542
00:59:16,810 --> 00:59:17,590
And it's just

1543
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,250
totally quintessential lynch. It's like, what?

1544
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,330
But it's like. It's like, wow. It's like.

1545
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,800
It's almost like an art that, like,

1546
00:59:25,890 --> 00:59:28,050
transcends our world. Like,

1547
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,610
we just don't even understand it.

1548
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,640
It's like, so. It's just so, like,

1549
00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:33,620
high and mighty.

1550
00:59:33,660 --> 00:59:35,960
We will never be able to comprehend.

1551
00:59:36,030 --> 00:59:38,120
The lynchian mode

1552
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:41,110
that's the point he's trying to make.

1553
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,400
At the same time, I bet, like, he,

1554
00:59:43,820 --> 00:59:46,480
I will say he has. Speaking of atmosphere,

1555
00:59:46,510 --> 00:59:47,730
we've talked a bit about atmosphere

1556
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,130
and music and how he creates such

1557
00:59:50,180 --> 00:59:52,530
an incredible atmosphere during his movies,

1558
00:59:52,580 --> 00:59:55,620
during his films, tv shows, using music,

1559
00:59:55,690 --> 00:59:59,260
like in lost highway still has one of the

1560
00:59:59,330 --> 01:00:02,450
scariest things I've ever seen in a movie.

1561
01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:03,710
If you don't like,

1562
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:06,540
it's not a horror movie. It's just very,

1563
01:00:06,650 --> 01:00:09,300
very creepy and really, really weird.

1564
01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:11,280
But I'm not only going to tease it.

1565
01:00:11,290 --> 01:00:12,340
Cause I'm not going to go and explain

1566
01:00:12,370 --> 01:00:13,960
the movie and I won't give anything away.

1567
01:00:14,050 --> 01:00:15,770
I'm just going to tell people, go look,

1568
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,480
go watch that movie.

1569
01:00:17,610 --> 01:00:19,590
If you want something creepy or scary,

1570
01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:22,510
it's not gross, it's not that. It's just like,

1571
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:23,660
you're gonna be like,

1572
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:24,700
your eyes will pop

1573
01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:26,870
and you'll be like, oh, my God, that's creepy.

1574
01:00:27,490 --> 01:00:29,740
Is it like, psychologically creepy?

1575
01:00:29,790 --> 01:00:31,190
Psychologically very creepy. Like,

1576
01:00:31,220 --> 01:00:32,350
even in the first, like,

1577
01:00:32,460 --> 01:00:33,480
you don't even have to get through, like

1578
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:36,430
the first ten minutes, 15 minutes. I'll start.

1579
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,150
Here's how it starts. Someone

1580
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:43,050
finds a VHS tape on their doorstep, they go,

1581
01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:44,030
they pick it up,

1582
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:44,910
they bring it in,

1583
01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:47,900
they put it into their VHS player, and

1584
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:51,070
it's just a film of the front of their house.

1585
01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:53,590
Oh, that's so creepy.

1586
01:00:54,210 --> 01:00:55,910
Yeah. And they're like, oh, maybe this is

1587
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,990
just some real estate agent or something.

1588
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,260
And then they go back the next day and

1589
01:01:01,270 --> 01:01:03,950
there's another VHS and they put it in.

1590
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,120
And you're gonna need to watch

1591
01:01:05,150 --> 01:01:07,430
the movie to find out what happens.

1592
01:01:09,250 --> 01:01:10,290
I don't want to give any more,

1593
01:01:10,330 --> 01:01:11,370
but it's like, it's,

1594
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:13,380
it's like the first 20 minutes.

1595
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:14,610
I highly recommend going

1596
01:01:14,650 --> 01:01:15,970
in there and checking it out.

1597
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:17,730
He's creates such crazy atmosphere.

1598
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,510
Oh, my gosh, it's so, like, psychological.

1599
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,480
You know,

1600
01:01:22,140 --> 01:01:24,870
you were talking about, like, the music, like,

1601
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,480
vibes of his films.

1602
01:01:27,590 --> 01:01:30,120
I was thinking about Twin Peaks, you know,

1603
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:32,940
his famous show from the

1604
01:01:32,980 --> 01:01:36,660
nineties and that and the musical, like, the

1605
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:39,380
whole kind of feel of it is this mysterious,

1606
01:01:39,460 --> 01:01:42,280
kind of dismal, eerie vibe.

1607
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,400
And the sound, the music,

1608
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:45,460
the soundtrack to it

1609
01:01:45,490 --> 01:01:49,810
is like such a perfect accompaniment, you know,

1610
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:52,310
I'm probably going to listen to that, like,

1611
01:01:52,350 --> 01:01:52,990
right after this,

1612
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:54,900
but it's just like, it's so creepy.

1613
01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:56,960
And I actually was going to do a harp cover

1614
01:01:57,010 --> 01:01:59,890
of it just to see how it would sound.

1615
01:02:00,190 --> 01:02:01,890
Yeah, do it, do it.

1616
01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:05,130
Well, I'll go ahead and take the moment here.

1617
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,740
We can now transition from the

1618
01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:09,080
random rolls to the final section here.

1619
01:02:09,110 --> 01:02:11,250
This is called the rapid fire,

1620
01:02:11,330 --> 01:02:14,580
so pretty much these are quicker questions.

1621
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:15,860
They're also silly,

1622
01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:18,670
but they're designed to get

1623
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,690
one or three word answers out of you.

1624
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:23,640
And sometimes we might be really

1625
01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:25,980
curious and try to go more in depth.

1626
01:02:26,070 --> 01:02:27,370
My favorite one to start

1627
01:02:27,410 --> 01:02:30,110
off with is coffee or tea.

1628
01:02:31,050 --> 01:02:33,680
Oh, my God. I love both. Oh, I can't.

1629
01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:34,630
I can't choose.

1630
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,950
I can't choose just one.

1631
01:02:35,980 --> 01:02:39,000
I love both of them. Is that allowed?

1632
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:40,650
Kind of.

1633
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,240
If you elaborate on,

1634
01:02:42,310 --> 01:02:44,760
do you drink either of them straight?

1635
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:45,870
No.

1636
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,870
Are you adding, like,

1637
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,320
copious amounts of creamer and sugar?

1638
01:02:50,140 --> 01:02:52,600
I mean. Okay, well, I'll have green

1639
01:02:52,650 --> 01:02:54,900
tea with some honey in it, and that's, like.

1640
01:02:54,940 --> 01:02:56,280
It's one of my favorite. I mean,

1641
01:02:56,310 --> 01:02:57,520
I have tea every day, and

1642
01:02:57,530 --> 01:03:00,480
I have coffee every day, so I love. You know,

1643
01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:02,840
I love drinks like that, so it's. It's

1644
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:04,980
so hard for me to say I'm one or the other,

1645
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:06,290
because I think I'm both,

1646
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:07,960
but I think if I had to choose,

1647
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,580
I would say I'm probably more of a tea person.

1648
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,740
I. You know what? I'm in.

1649
01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:14,600
I'm in that boat, too. Definitely.

1650
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,270
I've recently started to like coffee,

1651
01:03:16,340 --> 01:03:17,240
but the thing is,

1652
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,940
I don't like coffee straight,

1653
01:03:19,090 --> 01:03:20,900
so I'm more of a. Oh, I don't.

1654
01:03:20,970 --> 01:03:22,200
I don't like black coffee.

1655
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,180
I can't do it. It's too bitter.

1656
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,820
I like black coffee.

1657
01:03:25,890 --> 01:03:27,180
It's grown on me.

1658
01:03:27,370 --> 01:03:28,200
Good for you, Chris.

1659
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,380
You can keep it.

1660
01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:31,670
I used to only drink mochas,

1661
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,670
so I went through, like, a large

1662
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,530
part of my life only drinking mochas, like,

1663
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,680
the chocolate and the sugar,

1664
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:37,230
and I loved them.

1665
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,760
And then I gave

1666
01:03:37,790 --> 01:03:40,460
them up for a year, just as, like, I'm gonna.

1667
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:41,440
I swear I'm just gonna give them up.

1668
01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:42,450
I'm drinking too many mocha,

1669
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,080
and then I got in to black coffee,

1670
01:03:45,110 --> 01:03:46,260
and now that's all I drink.

1671
01:03:46,380 --> 01:03:48,160
Do you add sugar to it?

1672
01:03:48,310 --> 01:03:49,780
Nope. Nope. I just.

1673
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:51,480
Straight. Oh, wow.

1674
01:03:51,610 --> 01:03:53,520
It's like my scotch. I just, like,

1675
01:03:53,590 --> 01:03:54,330
I want something

1676
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,740
that I can feel the taste, you know? Like,

1677
01:03:57,780 --> 01:03:59,640
I want to know that it's hard.

1678
01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:01,760
I just want to feel something. Damn it.

1679
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:04,530
When you sip straight scotch

1680
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,500
or straight coffee, you know, it's coffee.

1681
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:08,340
You know, like, you got the. And here's it.

1682
01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:10,170
They always say on the side of, like,

1683
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,390
the artisanal coffee is, like, oh,

1684
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,440
it has hints of, you know,

1685
01:04:13,530 --> 01:04:16,920
rose petal and honeycomb, and it's like, okay,

1686
01:04:17,010 --> 01:04:18,330
I never noticed any of that.

1687
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,900
But now that I've been coffee

1688
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:22,990
for a couple of years. I'm like, hmm. There's

1689
01:04:23,020 --> 01:04:25,220
a little bit of this honeycomby taste. Like,

1690
01:04:25,330 --> 01:04:25,930
I like things you

1691
01:04:25,940 --> 01:04:28,700
have to work at to appreciate, and I think.

1692
01:04:28,730 --> 01:04:31,600
Coffee is one of those things. Wow,

1693
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,740
so you're a coffee snob now.

1694
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,700
I'm a bit of

1695
01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:36,600
a snob on a lot of things, unfortunately.

1696
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,890
I try not to eat a snob, but I really.

1697
01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:41,180
I like a lot of that.

1698
01:04:41,290 --> 01:04:42,380
I am too.

1699
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,770
Here's one in d and daughter.

1700
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,110
Role playing or combat?

1701
01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:50,170
Role playing.

1702
01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:51,130
Yep.

1703
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:54,170
I love it. I love, you know. Yeah,

1704
01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:56,420
I love, like, being with, you know,

1705
01:04:56,530 --> 01:04:58,060
a campaign with a group of people

1706
01:04:58,130 --> 01:05:02,150
who also like to roleplay. Like, sometimes

1707
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:04,950
we'll, like, dress up, you know? I mean,

1708
01:05:05,030 --> 01:05:06,250
that's not necessary,

1709
01:05:06,340 --> 01:05:08,610
but I think it's just fun, you know,

1710
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,510
I think it's really

1711
01:05:09,550 --> 01:05:12,160
fun to just kind of be goofy, you know,

1712
01:05:12,210 --> 01:05:13,030
and sort of take

1713
01:05:13,070 --> 01:05:16,240
on a different character. So, yeah, roleplay,

1714
01:05:16,310 --> 01:05:16,930
for sure.

1715
01:05:17,050 --> 01:05:19,950
Nice. And then I just. I gotta ask it.

1716
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,950
Every time I see this question, I gotta ask.

1717
01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:23,440
Star Trek or Star wars?

1718
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:24,680
Um, Star Trek.

1719
01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:26,090
Oh, you got winner.

1720
01:05:26,170 --> 01:05:26,910
All right.

1721
01:05:28,410 --> 01:05:30,950
No one picked Star Trek in our podcast.

1722
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:31,490
Really?

1723
01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:33,490
You are my favorite, Melanie.

1724
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:34,700
Thank you so much.

1725
01:05:34,830 --> 01:05:35,660
Oh, my God.

1726
01:05:35,710 --> 01:05:37,700
Okay. So many questions that

1727
01:05:37,710 --> 01:05:39,660
I want to follow up with, but I won't.

1728
01:05:39,790 --> 01:05:40,550
All right.

1729
01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:43,550
Except for. I'm sorry. Sorry, Chris. Sorry.

1730
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:45,670
But who's your favorite captain?

1731
01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:48,890
I actually have only seen, like,

1732
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:51,670
the one for the sixties.

1733
01:05:52,930 --> 01:05:54,820
I got my hopes up so high.

1734
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:55,840
I'm gonna be right back.

1735
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:58,270
I have to go cry in the closet.

1736
01:05:59,890 --> 01:06:00,580
I mean,

1737
01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:03,190
I really like Star Trek for, like,

1738
01:06:03,490 --> 01:06:06,150
what it stands for. Like, it's just.

1739
01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:08,350
It's super kind of, like,

1740
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,130
ahead of its

1741
01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:12,630
time in progressive, you know? I think, like,

1742
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:14,610
I love that every episode,

1743
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,080
you know, that there's. I mean.

1744
01:06:17,170 --> 01:06:20,080
I mean, gosh, it's really, like, deep. It

1745
01:06:20,090 --> 01:06:22,790
goes beyond just, like, what happens. You know,

1746
01:06:22,830 --> 01:06:23,370
they deal with a

1747
01:06:23,380 --> 01:06:26,490
lot of moral complications, like,

1748
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,180
a lot of stuff that we're, like,

1749
01:06:28,250 --> 01:06:31,090
facing today. Star Trek, for sure.

1750
01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:33,860
Oh, that's awesome. I've always been more,

1751
01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:35,450
and that's the reason I like Star Trek.

1752
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,320
Star wars is, like, just flashy,

1753
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:39,920
cheap stuff with lots of graphics, and, yeah,

1754
01:06:39,950 --> 01:06:42,320
there's lasers and great lights, but, like,

1755
01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:44,350
Star Trek has the confidence to just

1756
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,260
take you down a long hallway

1757
01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:49,500
and not need all that flashy fate,

1758
01:06:49,540 --> 01:06:51,510
flashy fire to keep you interested.

1759
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,370
They're just gonna, like, keep trudging.

1760
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,530
And there's a few bad episodes.

1761
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,070
There's a few bad episodes

1762
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,830
because they're trying to do something,

1763
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,420
but sometimes it is amazing.

1764
01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:02,900
And I think that's worth, worth it. Anyway,

1765
01:07:02,940 --> 01:07:04,870
you just found out we're both Trek fans of,

1766
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:07,810
in case you weren't already on that,

1767
01:07:07,850 --> 01:07:09,110
but we've been having to talk about

1768
01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:10,730
Star wars with all these other people.

1769
01:07:10,850 --> 01:07:12,500
But we're a little bit excited.

1770
01:07:12,550 --> 01:07:15,350
We've had an actual. All right,

1771
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,430
here's another one.

1772
01:07:16,540 --> 01:07:17,080
Here's a good one.

1773
01:07:17,110 --> 01:07:18,510
Because you have cats.

1774
01:07:18,580 --> 01:07:20,990
How many cats is too many cats?

1775
01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:24,910
How many cats is too many cats? Actually,

1776
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,980
that reminds me of a quote

1777
01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:30,020
from an artist who I really like. I don't

1778
01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:31,570
know how familiar you guys are with, like,

1779
01:07:31,610 --> 01:07:32,920
art or illustration,

1780
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,310
but there's this, like, a, like,

1781
01:07:35,340 --> 01:07:36,900
a gothic poet slash

1782
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:39,620
illustrator named Edward Gorrie.

1783
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:41,760
And Edward Gorrie did these, like,

1784
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,050
really kind of dark,

1785
01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:46,950
gritty victorian illustrations.

1786
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:48,430
And he

1787
01:07:48,460 --> 01:07:52,200
was totally an eccentric man. He, he, like,

1788
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,990
collected cheese graters,

1789
01:07:54,140 --> 01:07:55,900
and he, like, you know,

1790
01:07:55,930 --> 01:07:58,950
he wore these huge, massive, like, uh,

1791
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,810
fur coats. And, uh, well,

1792
01:08:00,850 --> 01:08:03,150
I I've always loved his art because

1793
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,830
it was always a little, uh, like, different,

1794
01:08:05,980 --> 01:08:06,990
a little strange.

1795
01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:07,760
You know, I

1796
01:08:07,790 --> 01:08:09,430
love things that are strange.

1797
01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:10,950
I'm just looking at it now.

1798
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,000
It looks a little bit

1799
01:08:12,030 --> 01:08:15,080
like Edgar Allan Poe was drawing.

1800
01:08:15,150 --> 01:08:15,750
You know what I mean?

1801
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:19,189
Like, absolutely, yes.

1802
01:08:19,340 --> 01:08:21,140
I'm sure that he was, like,

1803
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:23,390
very greatly influenced by Edgar

1804
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,270
Allen Poe because he does a lot of, like,

1805
01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:29,270
poetry in kind of a similar way, but. Well,

1806
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:30,970
he's very famous for this one

1807
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:33,310
book called the Gashley Crumb Tinies.

1808
01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:36,490
And it's basically, it's all, it's morbid.

1809
01:08:36,649 --> 01:08:37,649
It is basically, like,

1810
01:08:37,689 --> 01:08:40,210
how all of these children, like,

1811
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:42,720
die in very creative ways. Like,

1812
01:08:42,830 --> 01:08:43,939
a is for Amy,

1813
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:45,410
who fell down the stairs.

1814
01:08:45,529 --> 01:08:48,800
B is for Basil assaulted by bears. Yeah,

1815
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:50,800
but he just includes these

1816
01:08:50,830 --> 01:08:52,800
very charming illustrations

1817
01:08:52,830 --> 01:08:54,470
that go along with it. But it just, it just

1818
01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:57,310
totally satisfies any kind of, like, you know,

1819
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:58,950
gothic y morbid.

1820
01:08:59,689 --> 01:09:02,590
Anyways, he has a cat. Yes.

1821
01:09:02,660 --> 01:09:05,149
And I believe his quote,

1822
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:06,950
I think he said that anything

1823
01:09:07,060 --> 01:09:10,270
less than seven is not enough, and anything,

1824
01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:12,930
like more than seven is too much.

1825
01:09:13,090 --> 01:09:14,420
He was such a cat person.

1826
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:15,830
He has so many, okay,

1827
01:09:15,859 --> 01:09:17,460
there's a lot of cat quotes,

1828
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,279
but I think that.

1829
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:21,470
I think that that's just like, it's so absurd,

1830
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,200
you know, seven cats. Like, oh, my God. But,

1831
01:09:24,350 --> 01:09:25,640
so what was the question?

1832
01:09:26,060 --> 01:09:28,560
Yeah, how many cats is too many cats?

1833
01:09:28,939 --> 01:09:29,840
I don't think it's,

1834
01:09:29,890 --> 01:09:30,979
I don't think it's possible.

1835
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,319
I think that you can, you know, like,

1836
01:09:33,390 --> 01:09:36,529
the more, the merrier. Cats for life.

1837
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,290
That might be our top end answer so far.

1838
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,680
As many cats as we can fit in a room that's.

1839
01:09:41,710 --> 01:09:42,740
That's the route you're going.

1840
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,170
Okay. Gonna need a lot of litter boxes.

1841
01:09:49,790 --> 01:09:51,560
What is the most dangerous job,

1842
01:09:51,609 --> 01:09:52,689
in your opinion?

1843
01:09:53,830 --> 01:09:57,450
What's the most dangerous job? Oh, my God.

1844
01:09:57,500 --> 01:10:01,440
I don't know. Like, having a job. I don't know.

1845
01:10:01,570 --> 01:10:03,610
I don't really know how to answer that.

1846
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:04,660
They were like,

1847
01:10:04,730 --> 01:10:05,810
pay you per hour.

1848
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,250
That's. That's pretty good.

1849
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,370
That's a pretty good answer.

1850
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,900
Just having a job.

1851
01:10:10,050 --> 01:10:10,820
Yeah.

1852
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,460
What's the best munchy?

1853
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,400
The best munchy, like,

1854
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:17,900
when you have the munchies.

1855
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,180
Yeah. Or if you just snack food. I

1856
01:10:20,190 --> 01:10:22,860
just use the term munchy for me.

1857
01:10:22,990 --> 01:10:24,540
Okay. So for me, personally,

1858
01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:26,090
whatever what I crave,

1859
01:10:26,220 --> 01:10:27,840
I love edamame,

1860
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,160
so I really love, like,

1861
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,610
japanese food and, like, sushi, but, like,

1862
01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:34,420
at home, like, you know, edamame, like,

1863
01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:38,590
these, like, soybeans and. Oh, my God.

1864
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,320
And so I have a bunch of bags

1865
01:10:40,350 --> 01:10:43,400
I keep in the freezer, and you just, you know,

1866
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:44,490
you just take a handful,

1867
01:10:44,570 --> 01:10:45,510
throw them in a bowl,

1868
01:10:45,580 --> 01:10:46,830
toss them in the microwave,

1869
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,480
and then they're great because

1870
01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:50,060
they're finger foods. You just, you know,

1871
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:51,270
you use your fingers,

1872
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,750
and you can dip them in.

1873
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,040
The soy sauce is, like, my guilty pleasure.

1874
01:10:56,190 --> 01:10:59,120
And, I mean, that is, like, the only

1875
01:10:59,190 --> 01:11:00,540
and the best thing that I would

1876
01:11:00,580 --> 01:11:03,050
ever desire when I need to snack. It's like,

1877
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,920
it's always that one thing that I want.

1878
01:11:04,990 --> 01:11:06,100
Yeah, we haven't had that one yet,

1879
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:07,070
I think. Great.

1880
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,220
Great suggestion.

1881
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:08,730
Actually.

1882
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:09,690
I'm looking for.

1883
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,920
I'm looking for those munchies

1884
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:14,580
that are not chips, so. Yeah, great idea.

1885
01:11:14,660 --> 01:11:16,970
Right? And it still satisfies that, like,

1886
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,940
you know, that sodium, like, salty

1887
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:22,380
factor because of the soy sauce. So. Yeah,

1888
01:11:22,420 --> 01:11:23,740
it does that for me.

1889
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:27,380
Well, Melanie, where can we have

1890
01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:30,210
people find you and support you?

1891
01:11:30,260 --> 01:11:33,370
How can we get our. To your people?

1892
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,580
Yeah, so, I mean, I, you know,

1893
01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:37,870
I use multiple platforms.

1894
01:11:38,020 --> 01:11:39,830
If you use Instagram, you

1895
01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:42,750
can find me on Instagram. And I post, you know,

1896
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:45,670
I'm very active on there. You know,

1897
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:49,150
I do a song once a week, and then I do, like,

1898
01:11:49,180 --> 01:11:51,850
a regular post, you know, once a week.

1899
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:54,590
So I do two posts a week. And I also do, like,

1900
01:11:54,620 --> 01:11:57,370
daily stories and interactive things.

1901
01:11:57,410 --> 01:11:59,810
So that's definitely my main platform.

1902
01:11:59,890 --> 01:12:01,640
If you're on Instagram. Yeah,

1903
01:12:01,670 --> 01:12:03,270
you can search melody,

1904
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:06,320
and I'll come up and same handle

1905
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:08,590
for YouTube if you want to follow.

1906
01:12:09,490 --> 01:12:10,350
I would appreciate.

1907
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,490
Yeah. If you wanted to follow my YouTube too,

1908
01:12:13,530 --> 01:12:15,420
because that's where you really get, you know,

1909
01:12:15,470 --> 01:12:19,040
my music, my videos, and then, of course,

1910
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:20,220
my discord too,

1911
01:12:20,270 --> 01:12:21,210
if you want to, like,

1912
01:12:21,250 --> 01:12:22,510
be a part of the community.

1913
01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:25,350
Anyone can join. You know, we're, like,

1914
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,270
accepting of anyone. Like, really.

1915
01:12:28,890 --> 01:12:30,700
So come say hello.

1916
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:34,260
My discord is called melodies dream world,

1917
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:35,950
and you can find it

1918
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:39,270
by going to my Linktree website.

1919
01:12:39,810 --> 01:12:41,550
If you just Google melogy,

1920
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,150
my link tree will pop up,

1921
01:12:43,180 --> 01:12:44,810
and it has all of my links,

1922
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:46,980
and my discord is in there somewhere.

1923
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:49,320
So you just click on the discord,

1924
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:50,700
come say hello.

1925
01:12:50,860 --> 01:12:53,030
Awesome. And if people want to pay you,

1926
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,040
money is there.

1927
01:12:54,110 --> 01:12:55,860
You said you had a Patreon and stuff, too.

1928
01:12:55,900 --> 01:12:56,720
Is that a thing?

1929
01:12:56,830 --> 01:13:00,190
Yes. I do have a Patreon. I do. Yeah.

1930
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,480
Patreon is really big for me.

1931
01:13:03,860 --> 01:13:08,570
I have so many messages on Instagram.

1932
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,360
The people who are my patrons,

1933
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:13,490
I prioritize their messages a little bit more.

1934
01:13:13,610 --> 01:13:15,470
So I still make an effort to

1935
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:18,550
talk to everyone. But, you know, people, like,

1936
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,080
on my Patreon are, like,

1937
01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:22,340
actively supporting me and believe in

1938
01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:24,550
me and want to see my success. So I, you know,

1939
01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:26,900
so I like to engage with them. You know,

1940
01:13:26,910 --> 01:13:28,040
I make sure to really, like,

1941
01:13:28,110 --> 01:13:30,480
get to know them and stuff. But, yeah,

1942
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:31,890
Patreon is great.

1943
01:13:32,050 --> 01:13:33,990
I do weekly doodles.

1944
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:36,240
I have, you know,

1945
01:13:36,270 --> 01:13:38,020
I have behind the scenes of.

1946
01:13:38,090 --> 01:13:40,600
I do improv videos.

1947
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:41,990
So I'm just like.

1948
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:44,840
Or sometimes I'll record a practice session.

1949
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,630
It's a way to see, you know,

1950
01:13:46,660 --> 01:13:49,180
the melody behind the scenes, you know,

1951
01:13:49,210 --> 01:13:52,320
the kind of daily life melody. So.

1952
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,820
And I also send out postcards. Like,

1953
01:13:54,850 --> 01:13:56,980
I actually just sent all of my

1954
01:13:57,030 --> 01:14:00,740
patrons Valentines for Valentine's Day. Just.

1955
01:14:00,830 --> 01:14:03,020
Just something fun, you know, so, like,

1956
01:14:03,050 --> 01:14:04,540
little things like that that, you know,

1957
01:14:04,570 --> 01:14:06,020
to show my appreciation.

1958
01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:07,570
But that's awesome.

1959
01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:09,320
That does sound like some. Yeah,

1960
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,190
some great stuff. I mean,

1961
01:14:10,220 --> 01:14:12,940
and you were a graphic artist, so you.

1962
01:14:13,130 --> 01:14:15,580
Your doodles aren't just stick people. Like,

1963
01:14:15,610 --> 01:14:16,620
what I would do.

1964
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,420
Yeah, I'm actually. I'm also a painter, too,

1965
01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:20,870
so I do.

1966
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:21,970
I have dabbled in

1967
01:14:21,980 --> 01:14:24,810
the arts my whole life, so, like, you know, I

1968
01:14:24,820 --> 01:14:27,810
like to draw and I paint. You know, I do, like,

1969
01:14:27,860 --> 01:14:29,450
pen and ink, so.

1970
01:14:29,580 --> 01:14:30,940
So Patreon is great.

1971
01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:34,060
It's a great way for me to, like, you know,

1972
01:14:34,110 --> 01:14:36,530
express a different side of my art.

1973
01:14:36,660 --> 01:14:38,060
Melanie, did you have a chance to think

1974
01:14:38,090 --> 01:14:40,600
about a song that you might like to plug?

1975
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,900
So as far as, like, a celtic piece?

1976
01:14:45,070 --> 01:14:46,740
Yeah. Something that we could

1977
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,330
end the episode on.

1978
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:51,740
So I think I would like to end

1979
01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:56,770
with this piece called Carolyn's Dream.

1980
01:14:56,930 --> 01:15:02,270
And Caroline is a very well known in Ireland,

1981
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,520
a very famous Irish Harper,

1982
01:15:05,670 --> 01:15:07,830
and he was actually a blind harper.

1983
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,130
And I think. Yeah, okay.

1984
01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:11,430
In the 16 hundreds.

1985
01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:13,330
And he was a blind Celtic Harper,

1986
01:15:13,450 --> 01:15:16,010
and he basically spent his whole life

1987
01:15:16,130 --> 01:15:18,690
just traveling around Ireland with his harp,

1988
01:15:18,810 --> 01:15:21,190
and he composed music for people.

1989
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,050
I think he's like the,

1990
01:15:23,210 --> 01:15:26,220
like the national irish, like, composer,

1991
01:15:26,270 --> 01:15:29,900
you know, like, he's done so many, like,

1992
01:15:29,950 --> 01:15:33,560
classic irish and celtic tunes that, like,

1993
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,420
some people might be familiar with, but he's.

1994
01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:37,450
He's kind of like the holy grail of, like,

1995
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:39,330
of celtic music.

1996
01:15:39,460 --> 01:15:41,860
So this is a beautiful

1997
01:15:42,010 --> 01:15:45,940
song called Caroline's Dream.

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01:15:50,650 --> 01:16:16,310
Sadeena,

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01:16:16,330 --> 01:16:41,870
sadeena,

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01:16:41,890 --> 01:17:07,830
Sadeena

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01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,420
keep it nerdy, keep.

2002
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