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Gamify your life.

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That is what you do now.

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You are a transformational life coach and

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I love the fact that you're using the

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nomenclature of nerdom in much of what you're

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doing for people to maximize performance.

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So maybe you can tell us a little

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bit about how you found your way

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into this after the cancellation

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and everything that happened there.

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How did you find your way

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into this new rendition of Satine?

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We'll call it a reinvention.

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The cancellation happened,

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but really it was

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a full forced reinvent in reinvention, right?

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So this is like power of positive thinking.

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This is me going, okay, that happened.

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It is not who I am,

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but it was a definitely a

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threshold to get over to level up.

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So when I was 8,

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going through all those horrible

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things that I went through as a kid,

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I found the red box Dungeons

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and Dragons character sheet stories.

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And I used to.

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I was obsessed with libraries when I was a kid

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because I grew up right next door to a library.

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So my grandmother would take

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me there every day to play in library.

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I'm talking since I was an infant, right?

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So I'm just

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like surrounded by books. I've minimized.

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You can kind of see behind me.

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I've got some books, fantasy stories.

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I was reading the Hobbit and

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Lord of the rings at like 8 years old.

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So this is like I'm high level reading,

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foundational. Foundational, right? Yeah.

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And then I find this

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thing and I'd already known about, like,

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choose your own adventures.

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Because I used to hang out

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at the Library as an 8 year old.

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And so I'm just like, oh my gosh,

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I'm making this character.

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And as these negative

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things are happening in my life,

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I'm making a character.

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So I don't have her here with me.

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She's out in the other room. Vlania.

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I made Vlania when I was 12 and

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I made her as who I wanted to be.

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She had the stats I wanted,

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she had the costume,

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she had the mentality, the that, you know,

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charisma that I wanted. She,

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back then she was a thief mage,

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because this is AD&D.

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But now she's like the COVID

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and the main character of

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the campaign book that we're writing.

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And it's like, wow, okay,

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how can I take this

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thing that I knew was real, right?

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So I was in Taekwondo,

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I was obsessed with.

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My dad was in Mensa.

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And so I was like, well, I.

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I want to be that smart.

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So I was like, gradually,

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over my entire lifetime,

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leveling myself up,

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raising my stats. Okay, all right,

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I can do this.

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I can feel like a badass.

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I feel like I got a pretty okay charisma.

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I've got higher.

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I have much higher wisdom than I ever expected

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that I would have. Dexterity, strength,

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a sort of bodybuilding.

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And it was like,

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I play what's it called? Dragon Age.

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I love Dragon Age.

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It's so cool. Mass Effect. It's so cool. I

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play all these characters and all these games.

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Why don't I literally

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just do that for me instead

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of sitting in front of a computer, like,

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leveling up these characters. And then

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all of a sudden I lose the card or, you know,

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I stop playing and

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I forget how to play and then I,

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like lose that character.

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Why don't I invest that time into myself?

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year and a half of reinvention was like, okay,

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who am I? Who am I?

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And then I was like, okay,

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I can get stronger.

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learned about human design. Human design.

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It's super wacky.

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So I'm pretty out there.

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I'm pretty woo woo. I, like I said,

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I've tried a lot of psychedelic therapies.

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I don't necessarily believe in astrology,

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but I definitely

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am super hardcore into human design.

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I don't even Know how he got into it? I can

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assume it was a very creative, quote unquote,

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creative spiritual thing.

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But one day he channeled something

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and it basically overlapped the I Ching,

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the chakra system,

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the tree of life and quantum physics.

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And it put them all on top of each other, and

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he was able to see all of them together, right?

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So you're like, ooh, chakra meditation.

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Breathe into your chakras,

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whatever your aura, blah, blah, blah.

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What if all of it were pieces of a puzzle?

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the puzzle were to help you, understand you.

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And by understanding yourself,

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you're able to

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not have as many

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obstacles as you probably have. Able to, like,

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be in your rhythm and your flow.

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And when I'm in my flow, anything is possible.

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I can breathe better,

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I can see better,

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I can think better.

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When I'm not from around

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somebody who kind of like grinds

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up my flow or sands it, like, resist, like,

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creates this resistance.

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I feel.

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I don't feel as smart.

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I feel like negativity comes in.

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And so I was like, okay, cool.

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That's a really cool idea.

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I laid it out and

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I think I showed you guys earlier.

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And I'll do it on video,

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but we can explain it also.

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So I ran Chris's. Can I show.

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Yeah, go ahead. This is my. My human design.

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Yeah, this is your human design chart. And

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so if you can see, there's like, chakra system,

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tree of life. There's just, like,

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a lot going on in here.

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It breaks down planets,

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and it's essentially says,

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this is who you are.

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This is how you function.

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There's like five elements.

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There's generators manifesting generators,

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manifestors, projectors, and reflectors.

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And there's like the five types. And of course,

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I'm a life gamer.

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I've been gaming for 33, 34 years.

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So it all relates back. I'm like, oh,

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I can totally see how this works.

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There's your race, your class,

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and here it's your type.

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who you are projecting out into the world,

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who you are behind the scenes.

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And you're like the threat of your life.

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And then there's different parts of your body.

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Like in Dungeons and Dragons, there's strength,

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dexterity, charisma, wisdom, intelligence,

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something else. Constitution. Constitution. And

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so I'm like, oh, cool. Well, then, you know,

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in the chakra system,

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there's like head, heart, throat,

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chakras and all that.

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This actually has that.

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you have that within you.

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It's more sturdy, more stable.

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Your identity wasn't filled in.

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That means that

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it's harder for you to kind of, like,

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not get play tug of war with people,

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and you might actually start

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identifying with other people more.

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Or maybe your root system is not filled in.

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So it's defined and undefined.

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And so I'm going through this. I'm making mine,

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and I'm like, this is weird. It's like,

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telling me how, like,

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if I eat a certain way,

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then I will be more in flow.

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It tells me if I live in a certain way,

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I'll be more in flow.

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And I was like,

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how does it know that I'm actually a cave

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person who nibbles all through the day?

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How does it know that?

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And then I ran it for a bunch of other people,

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and they're like, this is weird.

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It's actually really weird.

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And it goes even further and further. There's

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like 64 gates from the I Ching, and it, like,

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correlates into contemplations.

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I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool.

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There's apps, so you, like,

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can learn it very slowly. But really, it's.

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I can now see my character sheet.

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How cool is that?

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How hard has it been?

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My whole life thinking, I've

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got all this energy and it's hard for people.

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I'm a manifesting generator.

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It is hard for people.

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I am so abundant of life and energy,

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and then I can work for, like,

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three months straight, no sleep.

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I can just, like, do this stuff,

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and I can, like, fulfill projects.

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It is the craziest thing. And so I, like,

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presented it to someone else,

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showed them theirs, and they're like, wow,

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I work best when I eat,

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when it's light out.

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That's weird, right? Super strange. Like,

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who would even think about that?

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I work best when I eat in public, in, like,

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a marketplace or in, like,

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a mall or whatever. And it's like,

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that's a thing.

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That's an option.

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So human design character

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sheet of who you are. Then there's,

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oh, my God, of course. I'm embarrassing myself.

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I cannot like being able

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to remember this other part. Oh, the gene keys.

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So there's the who

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you are human design character sheet,

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and then there's the gene keys. And it's like,

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these are a series of contemplations

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that you do them in a certain order.

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And it's literally like, how to function.

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And it's the game system of life.

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And it's all about self reflection, right?

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And all of this is to say that we

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have we are these beings and

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we all have our own character sheets.

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And the character sheets teach us how

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to relate to ourselves and other people.

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And so that's where the game

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design came into personal transformation.

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And it all comes back to self

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and centered and can I accept myself?

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And it's not steered me wrong

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or anyone that I run these for wrong.

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I have to ask about the Gene key.

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Is that like the, you know,

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in D and D and many games like it.

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There's the action economy. Like,

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you've only got so much energy on your turn.

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So the gene key helps you determine

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what your action economy should be.

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Oh, man, that's a good question. Yes.

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Yes, it is like, it's also.

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It's that and a couple things.

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It is that and it is the dungeon.

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You can only go forward, back,

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left or right at any given time,

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depending on what is open to you. Right.

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So if you go forward,

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then the next room will only

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allow you to go forward and right.

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If you go right,

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you can only go

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right and forward or something. Right.

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So it's like it kind of does that.

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It is the game.

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It's also the action

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economy for that specific function.

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And the map kind of sounds a bit like.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because all of this is.

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And you know,

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the interviews that I've been doing on my

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podcast just go to show that a lot

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of people who are successful can see

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how things overlay on top of each other.

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And so the Gene Keys are a series of

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systems that help you move to

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the next stage and level up in your life.

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So, yeah, I guess this

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is really about making choices. Right.

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Because you even just

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the analogy of using the dungeon, it's

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like once you make a choice down a dungeon,

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you then have

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limited choice the next room. Right. Like you.

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Once you make a choice to go right,

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you have to go,

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continue going down that.

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But that only has a right or

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left or it only has a left or right,

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or you can go straight or back. But it's.

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I think that's a

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really interesting way in which to.

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I guess if you were sitting down and

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coaching someone to put a frame of

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reference for someone to be able to make

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powerful choices so that they can make

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better and more strategic choices long term.

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Absolutely. And what I, What I notice

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is that it creates confidence.

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There's a lot of things that, you know,

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we go through our lives.

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By your time, you're 30, 40, 50, 60, man,

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you have had people

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project all their shit onto you.

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You just have people

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want to tell you how you should be,

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how you should look

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how you should function. And honestly,

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I have seen people burst into tears

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because they finally feel acceptance

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and it's their own acceptance. Like, oh my God,

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this validates that I'm different

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and that my different is so unique

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and special to me that it's actually a

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superpower and other people are not going

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to understand it except for that I do.

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Well. And so this human design,

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this essentially like me

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being able to see my character sheet,

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you do this for people in, like,

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I know you have a free 30 minute

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consultation that people can book with you and

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is that where you start with people? Or like,

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what would people

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expect in that sort of consultation?

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So the 30 minute consultation

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is what are you looking for? Right,

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where are you now?

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What are some of the roadblocks

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that you've got that you feel

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are getting in the way of your dreams?

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And so it's me listening, it's game mastering.

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I've literally listened

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and I like a session zero.

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It's a session zero, exactly, totally.

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So I session zero them.

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I listen to them and their

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wants and their needs and their

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dreams and what they're capable of,

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what they're not capable of.

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And then if it's a good fit,

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I explain what I,

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what I do and how I am.

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They're the captain

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of the ship and I'm the navigator, right?

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They say where they want to

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go and I will help get them there. But

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really I work with them to get them there. I

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don't just tell them what to do. I have ideas.

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And we do start off with like, just track your,

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track yourself and your awareness

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right now and see where you are.

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And then we can go and we develop

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a plan together based off of my, like,

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suggestions and stuff.

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But a lot of times my clients, like,

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they have the wisdom inside themselves.

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They already know who they

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want to be and how to get there.

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But really it's just,

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they need a little coaxing, right?

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So the 30 minute session is

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just us getting to know each other.

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Do we vibe well?

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Am I the right fit for them?

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And then usually it's like, okay,

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we'll work together for a

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month or three months or six months. And

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if it's more than a month, I'm just like, okay,

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let's do this human design

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thing because it's so important.

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Some people who want to invest

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for a minimal short time, they're,

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they're there to do a specific thing.

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Sometimes it'll be,

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I want help with advertising,

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help me design my Kickstarter. Cool. All right.

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I can project, manage that's cool. You're

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hiring me to be your project manager. Great.

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I'm really good at that.

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Other people who are like three months,

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six months, one year, it's like, okay,

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we're in this to win this.

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Because eventually I fade off into the

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distance and they are the characters

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that they've been wanting to be and so.

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Which is not a really good business model.

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I guess if I say it out loud, I was wondering.

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I will say this is actually a great thing to do

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because when you give things away. Yeah. One,

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you're living in abundance.

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That's already important

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because there's enough for everybody.

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And it's not about the knowledge.

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It's about the doing.

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As Bruce Lee would say.

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Yeah.

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Not in those exact words.

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That's not an exact quote,

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but it was perfect. It's close.

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Don't close to that. But yeah.

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But he did say something around, you know,

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you have to actually act.

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You can't just think about it. So.

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Reciprocation is also a very,

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very powerful marketing tool. And

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so the idea of giving first, providing that,

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creating authority, creating reciprocation,

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all those things can lead into people

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wanting to spend more with you

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and spend more time to get the result.

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And it's not easy to do all this stuff alone.

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I've done coaching,

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and I've also been coached.

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I was able to do a lot of stuff on my own.

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But the value in having a coach.

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Maybe you could speak a little bit about that

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because I think we're dancing around, like,

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the real moment. But, like,

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why should people even consider getting

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coach or getting outside help from

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someone like yourself or anyone else

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who they resonate with if it's not you?

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You know? And that's the point.

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It's the resonating. Right. It's. You're.

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I have a therapist,

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and I had this really massive moment where I'm.

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There's research that shows

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that when you talk about things, it, like,

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kind of drags you into it even deeper and more.

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But when you write them down,

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journaling is a huge thing.

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I do that every morning.

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When you write it down,

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it gets it out of your system.

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And literally using a pen or pencil

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or writing utensil is more powerful than, like,

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texting or typing it.

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So people go to therapy

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and there's a lot of different modalities,

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and I'm a big fan of them.

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Like internal family systems, emdr. Like,

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there's some really good stuff, but it doesn't.

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It's a lot of going into the past and, like,

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crunching on Stuff. Right.

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It's a lot of seeing yourself,

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parts of yourself that are not your

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favorites and crunching on it and moving

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and weaving yourself through with coaching.

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It's accepting where you are,

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where you've been and how to move forward.

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And that forward momentum is what I see.

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Coaching is the most

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important part of coaching. It's okay, cool.

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You have someone else

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to talk to about that here.

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We're going to go forward,

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and when we come to a road bump,

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then we're going to do some.

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A couple little therapeutic things that can

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be helpful to get you over that road bump.

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I'm not your therapist.

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I'm your buddy. I'm your, like, bff.

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I'm going to be here,

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and my job is to

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be here for this particular thing. Right?

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And I see you,

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and I accept you,

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and you can do no wrong. And that's like.

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That's what a coach is. I mean,

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there's definitely the, oh, okay, well,

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you're going left,

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but we want you to go right. Right.

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And there's the accountability part.

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So with my therapist, I can just, like,

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go over and ruminate

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and over and over and over, but

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she's not going to be like, all right, Sateen.

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Like, you. You've

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been ruminating on this for, like,

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a month and a half. Like, come on,

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we got to move forward.

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Your coach is going to tell you that.

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Your coach is going to say, this is great.

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It's not getting you where you

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want to go. So let's, like, let's. Let's do it.

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Let's talk about this thing that

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you're kind of bringing up very slowly,

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very little get out. Like,

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not get over it. And

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this is where internal family systems comes in.

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And I am not a therapist, however,

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I love this practice.

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You bring up the thing that's your roadblock.

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You see it,

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you understand the things that

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have been that are involved with it. You say,

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thank you for protecting me.

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We're going to put the protector over here,

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and we're going to go in and really

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get intimate with that part of my past

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that's causing that roadblock. All acceptance.

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Nothing gets kicked out,

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nothing gets shamed,

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nothing gets buried.

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It's all about awareness. And, you know,

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by being able to, like,

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love and bring that attention to your shadow or

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your past or whatever and say, hey, protector,

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who was protecting

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that small part of me who, like,

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barks and curses at people?

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What do you want to do now? Like, like,

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I don't know. I want to, like, sing. Cool.

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Why don't you sing instead of like,

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being this negative part of me.

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We'll take that energy and we're

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going to transform it into something else.

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And now you've got no roadblock. In fact,

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you have allies,

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and these are the allies within you who you've

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been training your entire life to help you,

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and they really want to help you.

543
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And now you can have them help you

544
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,700
in a very beneficial way instead

545
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,620
of a holding you down kind of way.

546
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,890
And there's so much to value in having

547
00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:04,620
someone who's in your corner for you.

548
00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:06,540
And in the times

549
00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:09,510
that I've been coached effectively,

550
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,390
it's lots of different things.

551
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,690
Sometimes it is figuring out where

552
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:14,050
your barriers are and unlocking them

553
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:16,040
and going deep with therapist, like, stuff.

554
00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:17,660
And sometimes it's just like,

555
00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:19,480
I need a cheerleader for like five

556
00:20:19,530 --> 00:20:20,830
minutes just to give me a little

557
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,790
boost because today was a little hard.

558
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,540
Or I need something like the value in just

559
00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:28,320
having someone in your corner that is able to

560
00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:31,550
be the thing that you're

561
00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:32,730
probably not getting from the

562
00:20:32,750 --> 00:20:34,590
other people in your life and you don't,

563
00:20:34,660 --> 00:20:37,610
and you shouldn't putting it on.

564
00:20:37,630 --> 00:20:39,260
Them, you know, like, exactly.

565
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,390
I talk to businesses all the time where

566
00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:43,180
they're like solopreneurs and they're trying to

567
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,030
make their vision of a business go forward,

568
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:48,180
and it's this really special thing for them,

569
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,370
and they're the only person. They're like.

570
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:51,950
I always say people are generally

571
00:20:52,020 --> 00:20:54,560
delusional about their success at first.

572
00:20:54,610 --> 00:20:55,590
And they have to be.

573
00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:56,180
You have to be,

574
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,100
if you're an entrepreneur,

575
00:20:57,190 --> 00:21:00,760
a little bit delusional about your success.

576
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,170
And when you're like that and you go

577
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,410
home to your husband or wife or partner,

578
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,380
or you go to, you know,

579
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:09,600
your friends or anybody else like that,

580
00:21:09,670 --> 00:21:10,720
and you're just like,

581
00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:11,960
this is what happened today.

582
00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:13,200
This is how it is. And this is,

583
00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:14,080
what should I do?

584
00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:14,820
Or how do I do it?

585
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:17,150
And you're playing all of this on them.

586
00:21:17,290 --> 00:21:19,540
All of a sudden you're taking the.

587
00:21:19,630 --> 00:21:21,850
You're taking that energy that is bad.

588
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,480
And you're putting it on your relationship,

589
00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:25,350
which is not going to cause it to be better.

590
00:21:25,410 --> 00:21:26,310
It's only going to

591
00:21:26,330 --> 00:21:28,460
cause more stress and more problem.

592
00:21:28,580 --> 00:21:30,350
And you think it's hard running a business,

593
00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:31,370
Try running a business while

594
00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:32,910
you're also going through divorce. Like,

595
00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:34,280
it's actually way harder.

596
00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:35,660
Yeah, totally. So.

597
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,650
And I've seen that kind of stuff in

598
00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:39,650
the business that I work in day to day,

599
00:21:39,670 --> 00:21:41,170
and we do a lot of coaching and stuff.

600
00:21:41,210 --> 00:21:43,570
And one of the biggest reasons I think

601
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:45,370
people should consider being in the right

602
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:47,570
communities and being around coaches or

603
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:49,990
people like that is you're offlaying

604
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,890
all that pressure and that stress

605
00:21:51,930 --> 00:21:53,570
that you might be putting on other people,

606
00:21:53,670 --> 00:21:55,150
and you're putting it into a dedicated

607
00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:57,280
space where they're professionally

608
00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:58,970
able to handle it and help you

609
00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:01,180
through it and give you what you need,

610
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,130
not what you want,

611
00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:05,200
what you really need in those moments. And

612
00:22:05,330 --> 00:22:08,170
so that's my little plug for getting coaching.

613
00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:09,210
Yeah, totally.

614
00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:10,340
Self a shot, you know.

615
00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:11,900
Yeah. Because, like, people come to me

616
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,010
and they're in a low point in

617
00:22:14,030 --> 00:22:16,570
their life or they're on their way up,

618
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:17,770
but they want to, like, really

619
00:22:17,790 --> 00:22:19,860
get it right this time and like laser focus.

620
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,970
And that's why I say gamify it.

621
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,920
Because can you talk about what gamify is?

622
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:25,540
Because some people may

623
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,400
not know exactly what that means.

624
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:28,180
Yeah.

625
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,220
And it's a kind of a buzzword in business,

626
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,990
I'm going to say, like,

627
00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:31,620
I've heard a lot about.

628
00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:32,380
Oh, is it?

629
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080
We're gamifying this and that means

630
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:37,100
we're adding badges or we're doing that. Like,

631
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,970
what does that mean for people? Because

632
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:42,740
it is kind of a buzzword. Yes, exactly. Right.

633
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:45,580
Yeah. It's about seeing the

634
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,780
world in a new light. It's about play. Right.

635
00:22:48,810 --> 00:22:51,160
I got literally tattooed on my throat.

636
00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:54,610
It's about play. You know,

637
00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:55,630
you go to a job,

638
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,530
you work this job over and over,

639
00:22:57,570 --> 00:22:58,940
you have this life, you know,

640
00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:00,880
you get up, you get ready, go to work,

641
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,500
you get off work, you go home, you make dinner.

642
00:23:02,530 --> 00:23:04,550
It's like this monotonous thing.

643
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,580
What if you could see life as a fun thing?

644
00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:09,710
Something that literally changes every

645
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,630
five years because your body cannot

646
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,400
sustain the same thing for more

647
00:23:13,420 --> 00:23:14,970
than five or seven years because you

648
00:23:15,030 --> 00:23:17,310
change and you evolve and you level up.

649
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,590
And so to gamify your.

650
00:23:21,370 --> 00:23:25,640
To gamify your life is to see yourself and your

651
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,070
life as this fun, playful, long experience.

652
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,440
And so we create habits that

653
00:23:33,610 --> 00:23:35,960
are kind of like playing a video game.

654
00:23:36,010 --> 00:23:37,300
And some people don't play video games,

655
00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:38,470
but they like board games.

656
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,960
And some people don't like board games,

657
00:23:40,010 --> 00:23:40,920
they like phone games.

658
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,730
And some people don't like phone games,

659
00:23:42,790 --> 00:23:44,550
they like crossword puzzles.

660
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,350
It's all about that. That

661
00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:48,630
thing that gets you to keep doing the thing.

662
00:23:48,730 --> 00:23:50,120
And that's the baseline.

663
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:51,830
How can you get yourself to

664
00:23:51,870 --> 00:23:53,420
do the thing that you need to do?

665
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,710
And when you gamify it,

666
00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:56,480
you're not just like saying,

667
00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:58,110
I want to be this character

668
00:23:58,140 --> 00:24:00,320
that's level 20. You're saying, I want to.

669
00:24:00,390 --> 00:24:01,920
I want to be that character.

670
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:04,070
I want to know the path to get there.

671
00:24:04,130 --> 00:24:07,430
I want to know what the system is to get there.

672
00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:09,670
What do I need to play in order to do that?

673
00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,490
Because not all games are the same.

674
00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:13,470
I don't like horror films.

675
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,340
I don't like horror games. I like weird,

676
00:24:16,450 --> 00:24:18,900
random puzzle games sometimes. Other

677
00:24:18,930 --> 00:24:21,550
times I like, you know, social encounters.

678
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,290
And I want that for a really long time.

679
00:24:23,330 --> 00:24:24,740
But then I also want to change it.

680
00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:25,730
And so I want to actually

681
00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:27,740
play different games throughout my life.

682
00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:30,550
So that's gamifying it.

683
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,220
I feel like you.

684
00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:34,850
One of the first things you told us makes

685
00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:38,940
absolute sense about how you kind of

686
00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:42,640
mapped out where you are now and the steps.

687
00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:44,200
You've just talked about it a bit,

688
00:24:44,220 --> 00:24:47,340
but mapping out the steps of, you know,

689
00:24:47,410 --> 00:24:48,750
at this age I'm going to be here,

690
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,600
at this age I'm going to be there. And that's

691
00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:52,820
the kind of person I would want in a coach,

692
00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:54,050
is someone who's like, yeah,

693
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:55,700
I've mapped it out before. Yeah,

694
00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:57,080
I know how this works.

695
00:24:57,180 --> 00:24:59,520
I know that when I make this goal,

696
00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:00,810
I also have to acknowledge

697
00:25:00,850 --> 00:25:03,360
that that goal may not be.

698
00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:05,980
Be the goal when I get there.

699
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,290
Yes, exactly.

700
00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:10,500
You nailed it. Because, like, good.

701
00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:12,150
The grass is always greener. And

702
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,050
then you get there and you're like, oh, my God,

703
00:25:14,110 --> 00:25:15,790
I'm not even on the same planet.

704
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,080
There's no grass here.

705
00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:19,960
There's actually no grass. It's all cement.

706
00:25:20,140 --> 00:25:22,220
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I always say, like, the

707
00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:24,330
grass is greener wherever you water it.

708
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:27,770
And it's actually important to remember that

709
00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:31,100
we take care of our own lawns. So it's part.

710
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,400
Part of it might be hiring a professional

711
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:35,180
gardener who can show you how to do that. Oh,

712
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,010
that's such a good one.

713
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:38,590
I love it.

714
00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:39,270
I like that.

715
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:42,790
So let me maybe before we.

716
00:25:42,830 --> 00:25:44,790
I know we're running lower on time, but

717
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:46,530
I wanted to get to random roles in a second.

718
00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:47,940
But I just wanted to ask one more thing

719
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,760
which I think will be great also for you,

720
00:25:49,790 --> 00:25:51,470
is could you maybe tell us a little bit

721
00:25:51,490 --> 00:25:54,050
about who is the right kind of candidate

722
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,200
for your style of coaching and what is your

723
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:57,790
ideal client and what they might look like.

724
00:25:57,810 --> 00:25:58,690
So people might

725
00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:01,540
to hear this and think, oh, that's me.

726
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,630
Absolutely. I first, I want to say

727
00:26:04,650 --> 00:26:06,880
I am so invigorated right now.

728
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,440
I love this conversation.

729
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,560
You guys are really fun to talk to and

730
00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:12,730
you're so insightful and it's just like,

731
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,230
I just am having such a good time. I really

732
00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:17,040
hope to meet you guys in person and, like,

733
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:18,020
go out for coffee

734
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:20,050
or play games or something. Heck, yeah.

735
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,100
You too. Thank you.

736
00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:22,420
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

737
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:25,510
This has been a blast to do this. Yeah, yeah.

738
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,270
The perfect candidate.

739
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,110
So there's people who know business,

740
00:26:31,530 --> 00:26:33,200
they understand business,

741
00:26:33,370 --> 00:26:34,240
but it's hard for

742
00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:37,090
them to relate it to their life. Right.

743
00:26:37,150 --> 00:26:38,160
They can go to work,

744
00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:40,480
they can make a lot of money,

745
00:26:40,620 --> 00:26:45,330
they can manage people, but they.

746
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,000
They don't know how to make that

747
00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:50,040
functional in their human lives. Right.

748
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,950
And so that's like, okay,

749
00:26:51,980 --> 00:26:53,890
I can speak that language to that person.

750
00:26:53,950 --> 00:26:55,630
I can turn it like that.

751
00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:56,990
Then there's people who are, like,

752
00:26:57,020 --> 00:26:58,870
at a very low point in their life,

753
00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:00,630
and they just want joy.

754
00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:03,100
One gentleman was like,

755
00:27:03,260 --> 00:27:04,750
I want some of your joy.

756
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:06,720
I was like, I got you.

757
00:27:06,850 --> 00:27:09,100
We're going to have so much joy. And,

758
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,300
you know, he said, like, I won't.

759
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:11,340
This is what I'm looking for.

760
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,360
These are my difficulties.

761
00:27:12,410 --> 00:27:15,050
And I'm like, cool, that's awesome. Like,

762
00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:15,780
I got you.

763
00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:16,630
We can do it.

764
00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:19,280
And then we'll, like, you know, many goals, so

765
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,290
we'll probably work together for a long time.

766
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,450
And so it's like,

767
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,580
people want to form good habits.

768
00:27:24,670 --> 00:27:26,020
People want to have, like,

769
00:27:26,150 --> 00:27:26,950
they have a goal,

770
00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:29,600
they want to get there. Some people,

771
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:30,970
they're just like,

772
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,580
help me with my business.

773
00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:34,330
I don't understand marketing.

774
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,090
I don't understand, you know, Kickstarter.

775
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,000
I don't understand how

776
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:41,990
to put all these elements together.

777
00:27:42,090 --> 00:27:44,750
And so I also do that. And it's

778
00:27:44,780 --> 00:27:46,880
always about showing them themselves, right?

779
00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:49,750
So people who want joy, people

780
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:52,950
who want to integrate business into their life,

781
00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:56,040
people who want to play. And, like,

782
00:27:56,490 --> 00:27:58,350
I guess that's where the joy part is.

783
00:27:58,380 --> 00:28:00,670
It's not even just like, I want joy. It's like,

784
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:02,100
where do you get yours

785
00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:05,340
and how can I get mine? Right? And that's

786
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:06,830
where the human design comes in. It's like,

787
00:28:06,860 --> 00:28:08,930
I know literally where yours is.

788
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:10,160
I can tell you.

789
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:12,010
And then we can, like, you know,

790
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,740
we can actually level that up.

791
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,130
I also hear that you are. This.

792
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:18,730
This is coming from such an interesting

793
00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:22,330
place for you, I think, from, you know,

794
00:28:22,390 --> 00:28:25,630
the photo of your life that we are having,

795
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,430
we are sharing right now that I'm

796
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,820
seeing is joy you are manifesting.

797
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:32,710
You are fostering joy,

798
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,130
and you're wanting to bring this. I mean,

799
00:28:35,150 --> 00:28:36,320
you said it in the beginning.

800
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:38,570
The thing that you knew from a young age that

801
00:28:38,590 --> 00:28:40,640
you wanted to do was to help people. People,

802
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:42,740
and you wanted to find all

803
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,330
the different ways you could do it.

804
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:45,350
And that was your common

805
00:28:45,410 --> 00:28:46,780
thread through your tapestry was,

806
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,160
I want to help people.

807
00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:49,110
Yeah.

808
00:28:49,170 --> 00:28:49,870
And it's so cool

809
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:52,310
that not only are you just. Yeah, I'M here.

810
00:28:52,330 --> 00:28:53,120
I'm going to be a coach.

811
00:28:53,150 --> 00:28:54,070
I'm going to help people.

812
00:28:54,110 --> 00:28:55,330
But it's also like,

813
00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:56,410
I think you even

814
00:28:56,460 --> 00:29:00,070
said this earlier, helping people. And what.

815
00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:01,290
And how that helps me,

816
00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:02,000
how that helps the

817
00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:03,640
individual that does the helping.

818
00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:06,580
Yeah, I mean, it's play, right. They're

819
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,920
finding that play is more healing, like,

820
00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:11,370
than almost anything else.

821
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:15,670
They're finding that you can overcome

822
00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:18,110
obstacles when you're with other people.

823
00:29:18,260 --> 00:29:19,870
To separate a person

824
00:29:19,940 --> 00:29:22,730
from the world is so detrimental.

825
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:26,130
But just like, yeah, heal through play.

826
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,090
And maybe play is just awesome banter.

827
00:29:29,270 --> 00:29:30,540
Maybe that's it.

828
00:29:30,690 --> 00:29:34,520
Maybe play is being a cheerleader.

829
00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:35,950
Maybe that's it.

830
00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:37,900
Maybe I am a game master

831
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,990
and I can't help but, like, you know,

832
00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:46,060
find people to life with. To life, not live,

833
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:47,020
but life with.

834
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,190
And to human with. You know,

835
00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:52,040
Dungeons and Dragons is one game.

836
00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:52,800
Right.

837
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:54,460
It's just a small,

838
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,990
small little sphere in this experience of life.

839
00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:59,430
Just one example.

840
00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:02,070
Yeah, exactly. Because, like,

841
00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:03,310
Cthulhu is really good.

842
00:30:03,380 --> 00:30:04,500
That's a really fun game. I mean,

843
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,460
I was just about to.

844
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,630
Say Star Trek Adventures.

845
00:30:06,690 --> 00:30:08,220
I've been on a huge kick on that.

846
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,790
Oh, really?

847
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:11,400
I'm a big time Star Trek fan and I.

848
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:13,180
Ever since I really made that full

849
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:16,380
leap into being the GM with both feet,

850
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,470
there's been such a healing journey for myself.

851
00:30:18,570 --> 00:30:19,660
So that's immediately what

852
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,330
I thought of with what you just said.

853
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:24,090
Thanks. It took a lot of courage

854
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:26,960
to admit that I wanted to be a coach.

855
00:30:27,490 --> 00:30:29,580
I was so embarrassed.

856
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:30,230
And I was like,

857
00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:32,610
I am not qualified. And I'm like, actually,

858
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:34,840
I have certifications. I actually am. But.

859
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:38,340
And that was me in my own way.

860
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,200
And then somebody was like, actually,

861
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:42,590
you were way qualified

862
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:46,010
because you actually faced your shadow.

863
00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:49,430
You were publicly humiliated and destroyed.

864
00:30:49,780 --> 00:30:52,730
You were burned like a phoenix. Right.

865
00:30:52,780 --> 00:30:54,660
Burned into ashes and literally

866
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:58,180
had to crawl and rise back up. I mean,

867
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,220
that is not an easy thing.

868
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,730
And I was like, wow, thank you.

869
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:03,180
Thank you for that perspective,

870
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,060
because I know that I have value

871
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,670
and I just didn't know for so long, like,

872
00:31:10,770 --> 00:31:13,200
what to do with all of my experience.

873
00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:14,780
But this feels good.

874
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,990
This feels absolutely perfect. Yeah.

875
00:31:18,150 --> 00:31:19,940
And more sustainable and healthier.

876
00:31:20,030 --> 00:31:20,560
Yeah, right?

877
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,260
I bet.

878
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,280
So I'm hearing also,

879
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320
if somebody has imposter syndrome,

880
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,140
they might be a good candidate for you as well,

881
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:30,080
because there are a lot of people. It's a.

882
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,220
It's a consistent subject

883
00:31:31,270 --> 00:31:33,830
that we have on our show, really,

884
00:31:33,890 --> 00:31:34,570
where they're like,

885
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,670
I didn't really know that

886
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:37,720
I was going to be a business owner.

887
00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:38,990
I just wanted to do this thing.

888
00:31:39,010 --> 00:31:40,430
And then someone Said it was really good.

889
00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:41,250
Could I buy that?

890
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,680
And then I'm like, oh, sure,

891
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:43,630
I'll make one for you.

892
00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:45,130
And then 10 people wanted it,

893
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:46,460
and then a hundred people wanted it.

894
00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:48,530
And now I'm selling these things all the time.

895
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:49,680
And I didn't think I was a business.

896
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,250
So there's a lot of that process

897
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:54,220
where you stumble into nerdpreneur.

898
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:55,800
It's very consistent in our guests.

899
00:31:55,820 --> 00:31:58,480
They just followed their passion and then

900
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:01,120
they had to figure out the business side.

901
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,820
And if we can help people streamline

902
00:32:02,890 --> 00:32:04,830
that in some capacity by them

903
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,820
listening to this or checking out our

904
00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:08,480
patreon or signing up for coaching with

905
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,320
you or doing any of these kind of things.

906
00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:11,880
I think that's really one of our main

907
00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:13,700
objectives here is to help people

908
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,510
streamline that imposter syndrome of like,

909
00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:17,630
am I a business person?

910
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:18,790
Can I be a. Yes,

911
00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:20,090
you absolutely can be.

912
00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:20,750
And you're allowed to

913
00:32:20,770 --> 00:32:22,050
screw it up for a little while.

914
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:22,690
Yes.

915
00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:24,550
To that point where you're successful.

916
00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:25,770
Here's the thing.

917
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:28,430
That comment I said where I don't know if I

918
00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:32,340
could do that was the only time in my life that

919
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,290
I ever had a semblance of imposter syndrome.

920
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:37,650
When you were in Artist,

921
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:40,120
you just know it. It just, it just exists.

922
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,980
It's just here you just are.

923
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:43,060
And then you figure it out.

924
00:32:43,090 --> 00:32:45,300
You know that like over there, that.

925
00:32:45,370 --> 00:32:47,330
That's over here is like

926
00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:49,020
when you've been doing it for 20 years,

927
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:52,500
the time is not necessarily linear. Right.

928
00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:54,490
It all exists all at the same time.

929
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:57,240
And therefore you can't be an imposter.

930
00:32:57,370 --> 00:32:59,630
The person who makes $100 million right now.

931
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,290
There was a point

932
00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:01,830
in their life where they didn't.

933
00:33:03,490 --> 00:33:04,080
There was a point

934
00:33:04,090 --> 00:33:05,430
in their life where they were five.

935
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:08,640
Yeah. You know, any, any man or woman

936
00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:11,800
that is in the arena is not an imposter.

937
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:12,880
Yes.

938
00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:15,830
Well, and sometimes you just gotta,

939
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:16,860
like there is the saying,

940
00:33:16,890 --> 00:33:17,990
fake it till you make it.

941
00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:19,990
And I think that there is, like,

942
00:33:20,020 --> 00:33:21,410
it's not a long term goal.

943
00:33:21,450 --> 00:33:23,220
You really can't fake it forever.

944
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,190
So you have to live with integrity. However,

945
00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:28,220
to get yourself on the field,

946
00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:29,720
it's okay to fake it.

947
00:33:29,740 --> 00:33:30,480
You know what I mean? Like,

948
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:32,640
it's okay to pretend like you're an

949
00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:34,500
entrepreneur or that you're really good at

950
00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:36,480
this at first just to get yourself out there.

951
00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:37,510
It's level one.

952
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,130
It's just level one.

953
00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:40,990
It's level one. I love that. Right.

954
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,760
You're just getting your first level.

955
00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:44,740
You're getting your first experience.

956
00:33:45,050 --> 00:33:46,950
And get yourself to level

957
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,810
two by telling yourself I'm a fighter.

958
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,420
I was really curious, actually,

959
00:33:51,490 --> 00:33:52,910
because we do ask everybody this,

960
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,620
or almost everybody this.

961
00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:57,840
What is your definition of a nerd?

962
00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:00,600
Oh,

963
00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:04,600
I feel like it's changed over time

964
00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:07,430
because I was.

965
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:09,820
I identified with being a nerd as,

966
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:11,070
like a tabletop gamer,

967
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,060
as a nerd. Someone who gets, like.

968
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,590
Who got bullied in the 80s,

969
00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:16,139
because I was raised in the 80s,

970
00:34:16,219 --> 00:34:18,139
who got like garbage can and food thrown

971
00:34:18,179 --> 00:34:20,940
at them and humiliated in public. And like,

972
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,179
I was the school nerd. Right.

973
00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:24,489
And so I basically,

974
00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:28,159
it was the nerd was the person that everyone

975
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,239
would ridicule and. Yeah, man. Oh, wow.

976
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,659
That's a flood of memories. Yeah, just like,

977
00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:36,260
just a horrible experience.

978
00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:39,020
And then Revenge of the Nerds came out.

979
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:39,570
And then being a

980
00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,530
nerd was cool, you know, and that.

981
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:44,650
But even that wasn't like, what we know.

982
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:46,219
And so there was a. Did

983
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,540
this podcast called Game School a while ago,

984
00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:51,179
and we were negotiating what's

985
00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:53,040
the difference between geek and nerd?

986
00:34:53,219 --> 00:34:54,370
And then it was,

987
00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:56,699
if you're into entertainment

988
00:34:56,889 --> 00:34:59,930
and games and comic books,

989
00:34:59,970 --> 00:35:02,760
then you're a geek. That's a geek.

990
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:04,490
But a nerd was

991
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:09,230
somebody who's like, equal, obsessive. Right.

992
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,070
But more into like science and

993
00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:18,320
computers and technology and the universe.

994
00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:19,880
That's what I remember.

995
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:22,010
We had dissected it into. But

996
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:24,230
I feel like over the last 10 years, 15 years,

997
00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:26,600
it kind of even got more concise.

998
00:35:26,650 --> 00:35:27,730
So a geek.

999
00:35:27,870 --> 00:35:29,930
Who even says geek anymore? Nobody says geek.

1000
00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:30,770
We don't.

1001
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:33,780
Yeah, I don't think it's even in. In the ether.

1002
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:36,090
But a nerd is somebody

1003
00:35:36,110 --> 00:35:38,800
who likes Game of Thrones, likes video games,

1004
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:41,390
likes adventure movies,

1005
00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:43,810
and like, that's it. Like,

1006
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,680
just kind of into entertainment

1007
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,910
that has a fantasy or sci fi twist.

1008
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:51,050
I have no short answers, by the way.

1009
00:35:51,470 --> 00:35:52,110
That's okay.

1010
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,470
We'll get you in the rapid fire.

1011
00:35:53,530 --> 00:35:55,890
Working real short answers.

1012
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,350
All right,

1013
00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:02,140
so random rolls. That one. Random rolls.

1014
00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:02,800
In this one,

1015
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,070
we're going to ask you questions that

1016
00:36:04,090 --> 00:36:07,320
are less serious and more fun. So go ahead,

1017
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:08,460
we'll do a couple of them.

1018
00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:11,360
And let's start off with just your first roll.

1019
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:12,990
Yeah. D100.

1020
00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:15,950
So these are the sirens.

1021
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:17,930
Bar dice is the ink.

1022
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:19,980
Inkwell and ink pen.

1023
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,200
All right, how does that even roll?

1024
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:22,170
I don't understand. It's.

1025
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:23,070
It goes sideways.

1026
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:24,320
You roll it sideways.

1027
00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:25,250
Chris.

1028
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:26,340
It stops eventually.

1029
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,740
Chris, I'll send you some links.

1030
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,030
I'll get you out there.

1031
00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:29,920
Perfect.

1032
00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:33,540
All right, 20. Okay, that one has to go. So 29.

1033
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:34,890
29.

1034
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,520
If you were to have a dinosaur as a pet,

1035
00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:41,910
which one would be Your favorite.

1036
00:36:41,970 --> 00:36:42,890
A raptor.

1037
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760
Immediate answer. Yeah.

1038
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,800
Why? Because they're cute. They go like this.

1039
00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:53,640
How big, though? How big is cute? When does.

1040
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,250
When does a raptor no longer become cute?

1041
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,620
Oh, it's got to be like a baby.

1042
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:59,550
Like, the little tiny.

1043
00:36:59,590 --> 00:37:00,520
And then I would have to

1044
00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:03,470
raise it so it wouldn't kill me.

1045
00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:06,820
So Ark survival evolved style.

1046
00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:08,340
Did you ever play arc?

1047
00:37:08,490 --> 00:37:08,840
No.

1048
00:37:08,890 --> 00:37:10,510
Okay. All right. You breed dinosaurs.

1049
00:37:10,580 --> 00:37:11,220
I've seen it, though.

1050
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:11,600
Yeah? Yeah.

1051
00:37:11,650 --> 00:37:12,190
Oh, really? Yeah.

1052
00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:12,390
Yeah.

1053
00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:13,830
Okay, cool. Yeah.

1054
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:16,110
So baby dinosaur, baby raptor.

1055
00:37:16,490 --> 00:37:17,830
Baby baby raptor.

1056
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:19,830
And then raise it, feed it,

1057
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:21,250
and then they love you. And that's.

1058
00:37:21,310 --> 00:37:22,940
That's the pet. When it's bigger.

1059
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,790
Although I have heard.

1060
00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:24,460
I don't know if this is

1061
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,190
true because I'm not a dinosaur nerd,

1062
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:28,270
but I have heard that raptors

1063
00:37:28,330 --> 00:37:30,260
were all really small and that

1064
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,030
there was another one that was bigger,

1065
00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:33,300
that was a totally different. Like,

1066
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,300
it was in the same, you know, genus,

1067
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:37,050
but it was a slightly different species.

1068
00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:37,920
I don't know.

1069
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:39,200
I could be wrong about that.

1070
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:40,370
But if you are a dinosaur

1071
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:42,380
nerd and you're listening, please chime in.

1072
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,300
We want to know the answer to this. All right,

1073
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,300
let's roll another one.

1074
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,490
All right, 73.

1075
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:52,480
All right.

1076
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:55,800
Is there anything that you are waiting

1077
00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:59,410
for from Wizards of the coast or D and

1078
00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:02,140
D for them to actually release and do?

1079
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,640
No, not at all.

1080
00:38:05,890 --> 00:38:06,880
It's a perfect question.

1081
00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:07,570
I wanted to make sure

1082
00:38:07,590 --> 00:38:09,900
there was no anticipation anymore.

1083
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,950
It was Eberron,

1084
00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:13,490
and once Eberron came out, that was good. Yeah.

1085
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:15,200
And Spelljammer ships. I'm just.

1086
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:17,150
I like Spelljammer just for the ships.

1087
00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:19,410
I do a lot of Astral Plane stuff, too.

1088
00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:21,410
Yeah, the Astral Plane is super fun.

1089
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:24,080
It's just weird. Like, my head, it's so weird.

1090
00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:25,660
Oh, and you can have anything in it.

1091
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,450
It's literally space.

1092
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:27,330
There could be anything there.

1093
00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:30,610
So why do you love Eberron? I'm curious. Like,

1094
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:31,410
what is it about that.

1095
00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:34,360
Oh, I'm so glad you asked. That's the

1096
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:36,280
question that I didn't know I want asked.

1097
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:40,210
It's arcana punk. Right.

1098
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:41,410
It's like magic,

1099
00:38:41,780 --> 00:38:44,390
but they've got air shifts. Yeah.

1100
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:46,280
And the colors are right spot on.

1101
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:49,830
It's like blues, purples, pinks, golds.

1102
00:38:49,930 --> 00:38:52,080
It is the coolest. Also,

1103
00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:55,640
I love the idea that Droam is a

1104
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:59,700
civilization of monsters who are smart and are

1105
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:02,320
trying to integrate with the rest of humanity,

1106
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:03,400
but the rest

1107
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:05,780
of the societies are like, no, we won't.

1108
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:07,600
We don't accept you for being actual

1109
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:10,300
creatures because we're monsters. Right. Yeah.

1110
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:10,880
I didn't know.

1111
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:11,250
Yeah.

1112
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:13,870
It is so cool. Yeah. Droam.

1113
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:15,460
It's called Dram.

1114
00:39:15,610 --> 00:39:16,800
Dram. Got it.

1115
00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:17,730
And it's. Yeah,

1116
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:20,620
it's run by these three hags. It's pretty cool.

1117
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,410
Tell me more.

1118
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:23,720
Maybe not right now,

1119
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:25,710
but it's the Sisters of Sorakel.

1120
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,570
And they're really cool,

1121
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:28,250
but I really like that they're Medusas and

1122
00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:30,890
there's harpies and also that goblins are cute.

1123
00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:33,260
And then the Tlings and then the Minotaurs.

1124
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,780
Are they all good, aligned?

1125
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,140
Well, that's the thing.

1126
00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:41,920
It's a post war game, right. So basically,

1127
00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:43,160
a nuclear blast went off,

1128
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,620
took out an entire country.

1129
00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:46,860
And so it's like, post war,

1130
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:48,130
what is good and what is evil?

1131
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:50,410
And so I love that I. Obviously,

1132
00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:51,200
through this conversation,

1133
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:52,690
you could probably get that I.

1134
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:53,960
Nothing is black and white.

1135
00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:55,090
Everything's got to be, like,

1136
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,620
shades of interesting.

1137
00:39:56,730 --> 00:40:00,180
And so this game is pure shades of interesting.

1138
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,860
Nice. Yeah, go ahead. Roll one more, please.

1139
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,990
43.

1140
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:07,970
If you.

1141
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,610
Wow. This is. Wow. Weird. Okay. If you were

1142
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,000
able to learn a skill like Neo from the Matrix,

1143
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,330
learned kung fu,

1144
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,050
what skill would you choose?

1145
00:40:17,470 --> 00:40:19,690
Like a real skill or a superhero skill?

1146
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Real, I guess. I guess has to work

1147
00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:23,930
within the Matrix. So, yeah, probably real.

1148
00:40:29,950 --> 00:40:33,880
Oh, man. Okay, so I would learn the skill

1149
00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:37,680
of using all my senses.

1150
00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:41,260
And that is to say I would

1151
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,260
want to be hypersensitive and aware. I

1152
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,860
do a lot of meditation, but also, like, energy,

1153
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,430
you know, that's. That's real.

1154
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:49,850
Toroidal fields are real.

1155
00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:52,160
And so I would want to like, have heightened

1156
00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:56,590
sense of, like, sound, sight, energy. And then.

1157
00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:57,660
Because what happens is,

1158
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,010
since we are all the same,

1159
00:40:59,050 --> 00:41:00,770
and we are all, you know, energy,

1160
00:41:00,830 --> 00:41:03,800
the same energy, you can actually, like, feel.

1161
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:06,940
If you can work it good enough, you

1162
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,760
can get the skill of being able to like, read

1163
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:11,670
people and feel people around you, but, like,

1164
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:12,420
at a distance.

1165
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,140
It's really cool.

1166
00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:14,610
Magicians do this really well.

1167
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:16,120
Like stage magicians.

1168
00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:19,080
I used to play with one as a friend.

1169
00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:20,790
We were just like, nerd out.

1170
00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:21,850
And we would do this energy

1171
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:24,090
thing where we'd put each other, our hands up,

1172
00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,460
and we'd walk backwards

1173
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,610
until we stopped feeling each other.

1174
00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:29,680
And it got to a point where we were on, like,

1175
00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:30,980
opposite sides of the room.

1176
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:32,730
So heightened senses.

1177
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:34,700
And that is a human skill.

1178
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,100
Well, we used to do contact improv

1179
00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:40,360
type stuff in theater school. And it's like,

1180
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:42,570
there's sort of a general vibe of that.

1181
00:41:42,610 --> 00:41:44,280
And you would go, like,

1182
00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:46,200
theater school is all about that energy, too,

1183
00:41:46,220 --> 00:41:47,680
because you would go at. Well,

1184
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:48,460
you would do that.

1185
00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:49,540
And then they would also say, okay,

1186
00:41:49,570 --> 00:41:51,550
now bring your level to 1,

1187
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,630
give it to 8,

1188
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,350
and then get to 10.

1189
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,360
And you would feel the difference in, like,

1190
00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:56,930
not changing your actions,

1191
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:59,590
just consciously changing your level of

1192
00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:02,470
energy and how that impacts your presence

1193
00:42:02,570 --> 00:42:05,320
on stage or when you're in front of people.

1194
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:06,680
So there is something there.

1195
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:07,820
And I think if you had a heightened

1196
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:09,680
version of being able to sense that,

1197
00:42:09,790 --> 00:42:10,940
you could probably feel through.

1198
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,290
Yeah, of course, I say that and like,

1199
00:42:12,340 --> 00:42:14,170
500 things just pop into my mind.

1200
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:16,240
But I'm going to stick with that one.

1201
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:18,660
Cool. That's awesome. Let's

1202
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,690
do one more random roll.

1203
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:25,050
Okay, this is great. 96.

1204
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,140
So here's an interesting one.

1205
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,010
Name one person that you

1206
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,050
would like to interview for 60 Minutes.

1207
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,740
Oh, God.

1208
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,430
We did it. Chris. We broke her.

1209
00:42:42,590 --> 00:42:44,800
Yeah, you broke me. Because it comes down.

1210
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,620
I've been like, they should. They be.

1211
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:48,530
They should be alive.

1212
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,630
They should be alive.

1213
00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:50,570
I mean,

1214
00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:52,520
we've never really discussed it the first time

1215
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:54,470
this question has come up, so no pressure, but.

1216
00:42:54,510 --> 00:42:55,240
Oh, okay.

1217
00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:56,800
But.

1218
00:42:56,910 --> 00:42:58,180
But I know.

1219
00:42:58,220 --> 00:42:58,890
I don't know, Frank,

1220
00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:02,210
should we do alive and dead or anyone alive?

1221
00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:03,510
Because I feel like if we do alive,

1222
00:43:03,590 --> 00:43:05,380
maybe we can be able to get it to happen.

1223
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,020
I want to get this name right.

1224
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,720
I'd go with, yeah, alive.

1225
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:11,200
Yeah, anyone alive. Let's stay with that.

1226
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:13,330
But if you have a good dead answer, I'm.

1227
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:14,970
I'm open to hearing it, too.

1228
00:43:17,090 --> 00:43:18,080
Let's see.

1229
00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:21,460
The biggest thing that has helped me in my life

1230
00:43:21,610 --> 00:43:24,360
has been internal family systems therapy.

1231
00:43:24,490 --> 00:43:26,000
I explained to you a little bit.

1232
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,820
And his name is Richard Schwartz.

1233
00:43:29,530 --> 00:43:32,480
I would love to figure this out.

1234
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,590
So he was a family therapist,

1235
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,740
and then by doing family therapy,

1236
00:43:36,770 --> 00:43:37,720
he created this like,

1237
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,760
35 years ago or 40 years ago.

1238
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,200
And by doing family therapy,

1239
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:43,440
he realized that we have this entire, like,

1240
00:43:43,530 --> 00:43:45,640
this interiority that is, like,

1241
00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:48,810
not fractured, but, like, pieced

1242
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,430
together as like an internal family system.

1243
00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:54,230
And we relate to ourselves.

1244
00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:58,060
I want to interview him so bad because I like.

1245
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:58,820
I mean, that

1246
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,030
is kind of a massive

1247
00:44:00,090 --> 00:44:02,720
groundbreaking thing to figure out. Right.

1248
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:04,140
And I know he's got

1249
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,530
more nuggets inside of his head.

1250
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:06,680
I just know it.

1251
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:09,070
I get that. Yeah.

1252
00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:10,690
If Joseph Campbell was still around,

1253
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:11,980
he'd be my answer.

1254
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,010
Oh, it's a good one. Yeah.

1255
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:15,650
You've read from.

1256
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:16,630
When I read your about.

1257
00:44:16,690 --> 00:44:17,400
It sounded like you

1258
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:18,920
have read a bunch of his stuff.

1259
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:20,700
And I have a book that I wrote

1260
00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:22,590
called the Action Heroine's Journey.

1261
00:44:22,690 --> 00:44:24,510
The last copies are right here.

1262
00:44:24,650 --> 00:44:26,330
And it's all based off of.

1263
00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:27,300
I'm a huge fan.

1264
00:44:27,340 --> 00:44:28,360
I Have his stuff.

1265
00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:29,120
Power of myth

1266
00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:33,360
and Symbol on VHS still. Yeah. Super amazing.

1267
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:36,330
Trying to get my hands on something to see it.

1268
00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:38,830
But the idea of just like the nuggets,

1269
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,780
every paragraph is a run on sentence,

1270
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,550
but it is such a solid idea on its own.

1271
00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:44,830
And it's like,

1272
00:44:44,860 --> 00:44:47,330
what else does he have in that noggin? Like,

1273
00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:48,970
what else is he not written?

1274
00:44:49,110 --> 00:44:50,140
You're so right

1275
00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:52,320
about the run on sentence, though.

1276
00:44:52,780 --> 00:44:54,370
We actually did an episode talking about

1277
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:57,710
Joseph Campbell and just one nugget and. Yeah,

1278
00:44:57,780 --> 00:44:59,110
and the excerpt I read,

1279
00:44:59,140 --> 00:45:00,670
I was waiting for the period and I

1280
00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:03,390
realized it wasn't ever going to happen.

1281
00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:06,860
I do seminars on storytelling and

1282
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,800
I do it for businesses and teams

1283
00:45:08,850 --> 00:45:10,880
and I also help people for like, you know,

1284
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:12,070
making adventures.

1285
00:45:12,250 --> 00:45:14,640
But it's like a 90 minute seminar and I.

1286
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:17,530
It's just a love letter to Joseph Campbell.

1287
00:45:18,590 --> 00:45:20,850
I will, I'm gonna. I'll email you about that.

1288
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:23,270
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll let you know

1289
00:45:23,290 --> 00:45:25,300
when our episode may or may not be out, people,

1290
00:45:25,340 --> 00:45:25,970
if you're listening.

1291
00:45:26,020 --> 00:45:27,780
So they'll find it. It's. Yeah,

1292
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,700
we're not quite sure where that one's dropping,

1293
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:31,070
but it's a really good episode.

1294
00:45:31,130 --> 00:45:32,490
Oh, so exciting.

1295
00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:34,840
All right, well, that's random rules.

1296
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:36,640
Let's go on over to Rapid Fire.

1297
00:45:37,090 --> 00:45:38,760
So in Rapid Fire,

1298
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:41,040
these are quick and silly,

1299
00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:43,570
more than where we've already been. So

1300
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:45,680
I'm going to start off with a classic of mine.

1301
00:45:45,770 --> 00:45:47,720
Star Trek or Star Wars.

1302
00:45:49,610 --> 00:45:50,390
Yes.

1303
00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:53,210
Yes is an acceptable answer.

1304
00:45:53,350 --> 00:45:54,630
Even though Star Trek is bad.

1305
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:55,430
It is.

1306
00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:00,430
I'm not hiding anything on that one.

1307
00:46:01,090 --> 00:46:01,660
All right,

1308
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:03,490
what about DC or Marvel?

1309
00:46:03,690 --> 00:46:04,470
Marvel.

1310
00:46:05,530 --> 00:46:06,390
Okay.

1311
00:46:07,090 --> 00:46:08,280
Didn't give me enough time, Chris,

1312
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,430
to pick another one.

1313
00:46:10,450 --> 00:46:12,030
Best Spider man actor.

1314
00:46:13,450 --> 00:46:14,660
The last one.

1315
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,230
The Tom Holland.

1316
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,140
That's him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1317
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,880
Predator or aliens?

1318
00:46:21,020 --> 00:46:21,820
Predator.

1319
00:46:22,610 --> 00:46:23,860
Favorite munchie.

1320
00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:27,470
What's a munchie?

1321
00:46:27,970 --> 00:46:28,840
Snack food.

1322
00:46:28,970 --> 00:46:29,680
Steak.

1323
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,700
Nice. That's actually

1324
00:46:32,740 --> 00:46:35,880
my favorite tip for being.

1325
00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:37,350
A snack or a munchy.

1326
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:38,490
I'm a biohacker.

1327
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:41,070
Yeah, that's right. Grass

1328
00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:44,590
fed beef all day. All right. It's the best.

1329
00:46:44,890 --> 00:46:47,110
How about this best weird owl parody?

1330
00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:53,160
Oh, I'm. I'm bad. I'm a bit bad.

1331
00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:54,070
Bad.

1332
00:46:54,140 --> 00:46:56,980
Yeah. You know, I'm fat. I'm fat.

1333
00:46:57,010 --> 00:46:57,950
Fat. That one. Yes.

1334
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,990
Yeah, because it came out when I was a kid,

1335
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,550
so I like memorized it, of course.

1336
00:47:03,010 --> 00:47:06,270
And I love food. So, so funny.

1337
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,950
The video was so funny too.

1338
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:10,210
Zombie apocalypse.

1339
00:47:10,270 --> 00:47:11,390
Weapon of choice.

1340
00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:15,720
Okay. I was really hoping somebody

1341
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,770
somewhere at some time would ask me this.

1342
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:20,180
It's not necessarily a weapon,

1343
00:47:20,530 --> 00:47:24,260
but it's my Solution to the zombie apocalypse.

1344
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,740
It's called Kango boots.

1345
00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:27,010
And I'm the only one that

1346
00:47:27,050 --> 00:47:29,130
owns these as far as I know,

1347
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:30,450
because they came out.

1348
00:47:30,490 --> 00:47:31,690
They look like rollerblades,

1349
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:32,470
but they've got these

1350
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,560
like bungee things on the bottom.

1351
00:47:34,730 --> 00:47:36,210
And so in Santa Monica,

1352
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:37,490
I used to train in them.

1353
00:47:37,610 --> 00:47:39,830
And you could run on difficult terrain,

1354
00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:41,430
but you could leap like 5,

1355
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:43,580
10ft in the air. It is incredible. I

1356
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,380
worn them at Burning Man. Like, they're great,

1357
00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:47,980
but also so nerdy.

1358
00:47:48,110 --> 00:47:49,350
Oh, I cannot wear them in

1359
00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:51,240
public without getting laughed at. But yeah,

1360
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,720
that's my super secret zombie apocalypse thing.

1361
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,710
To get to those places that they can't reach.

1362
00:47:56,810 --> 00:47:57,810
And can you,

1363
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,450
can you with them,

1364
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,180
can you leap over like six feet high, people?

1365
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,760
No, I haven't tried that. Okay, but if you're,

1366
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,200
if you need to run away from zombies,

1367
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,430
you jump as high as you need to jump, right?

1368
00:48:08,530 --> 00:48:09,040
I mean, we all

1369
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:10,680
know their arms can't go above here,

1370
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,450
like above their shoulders.

1371
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,860
Oh, yeah, yeah, we all know that.

1372
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:14,980
And even if they did, like, well.

1373
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,780
Their arms don't even.

1374
00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:17,100
They don't really use finger. Like,

1375
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,530
it doesn't seem like they're that great.

1376
00:48:18,610 --> 00:48:20,220
They're all jaw. It's all jaws.

1377
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,320
Exactly. There's one thing that moves

1378
00:48:22,450 --> 00:48:26,660
their feet and their hat. What's. Okay,

1379
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:28,840
how many cats is too many cats?

1380
00:48:31,050 --> 00:48:31,800
Ten.

1381
00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:32,670
Ten.

1382
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:33,590
Say ten.

1383
00:48:34,610 --> 00:48:37,480
That's a lot of cats. So nine. You're still in.

1384
00:48:37,570 --> 00:48:38,750
Well, it depends on the size

1385
00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:40,800
of the house. Right. My best friend. Friend.

1386
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,180
He lives in this huge loft in the brewery.

1387
00:48:44,330 --> 00:48:45,720
And it is a big loft.

1388
00:48:45,780 --> 00:48:47,720
I think at one point maybe

1389
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:49,780
I shouldn't be saying this publicly.

1390
00:48:49,850 --> 00:48:51,940
It was like seven, like seven cats,

1391
00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:53,930
but it was so big that like you didn't see

1392
00:48:53,950 --> 00:48:56,590
them all except when it was feeding time

1393
00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:00,690
and you're like, ah, that would.

1394
00:49:00,750 --> 00:49:01,610
I'd be startled.

1395
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:03,300
I would definitely be startled.

1396
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,640
Yeah. Feeding a lot of cats is an experience.

1397
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:07,290
It's like they go a little crazy.

1398
00:49:07,350 --> 00:49:08,380
Speaking of cats,

1399
00:49:08,530 --> 00:49:10,840
what Hogwarts house are you in?

1400
00:49:11,410 --> 00:49:15,800
Cats. Oh, I am. Knew it. I mean,

1401
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:20,360
I would tell you that I am Gryffindor.

1402
00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:24,700
Yes, yes, I too am in Raven.

1403
00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:25,250
I feel like there's

1404
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:26,600
like an extra to that, but no.

1405
00:49:26,650 --> 00:49:27,240
Yes.

1406
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:32,640
So Lord of the Rings,

1407
00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:33,760
the books or the movies?

1408
00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:34,640
Books.

1409
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:37,450
Yeah, I kind of. Kind of saw that

1410
00:49:37,470 --> 00:49:38,610
one coming a mile away.

1411
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:40,720
Yeah, I like books a lot.

1412
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,520
Who is more evil,

1413
00:49:43,570 --> 00:49:45,680
Dolores Umbridge or Voldemort?

1414
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:47,760
I mean, Voldemort.

1415
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:50,610
What's your answer here?

1416
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:52,030
Yeah, well, for me, I

1417
00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:54,880
would probably do Dolores,

1418
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:57,550
just because it's Such like a.

1419
00:49:57,890 --> 00:50:02,110
She's more of this internal obstacle that.

1420
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,690
That the hero has to get used.

1421
00:50:03,790 --> 00:50:06,010
Has to find a way to like. It's.

1422
00:50:06,050 --> 00:50:06,610
It's more of how

1423
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:08,900
do they solve it within themselves, you know,

1424
00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:09,790
she's less of a.

1425
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,090
I'm going to fight her and defeat her.

1426
00:50:13,150 --> 00:50:14,340
Whereas Voldemort's like,

1427
00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:16,220
this is a matter of life and death.

1428
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:17,380
I accept.

1429
00:50:17,570 --> 00:50:20,160
Yeah. No one feels. No one will feel bad

1430
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,680
if you just like Avada Kerdavra Voldemort.

1431
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,010
But you can't do that to Dolores Umbra Bridge.

1432
00:50:25,050 --> 00:50:25,560
Yeah.

1433
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:26,960
Because she's all dressed up

1434
00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:28,100
in pink and she works for the

1435
00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:29,920
government and she's very nice to you.

1436
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:30,960
So there's a real.

1437
00:50:31,060 --> 00:50:32,230
She's lawful evil.

1438
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,280
She makes it hard.

1439
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:35,120
Yeah, it's a little scarier now that.

1440
00:50:35,140 --> 00:50:36,970
You'Re, like, evil

1441
00:50:37,050 --> 00:50:39,400
and part of the government. Like,

1442
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:41,640
you can't easily get rid of a person

1443
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,520
that's a part of the government. Lawful evil.

1444
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:46,550
Yeah, you know. Totally. Totally.

1445
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,400
So since we're on the Harry Potter train,

1446
00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:49,930
I want to ask

1447
00:50:49,970 --> 00:50:52,860
what would be your Patronus? What animal?

1448
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,470
Rpg. You can't see her. She's over here.

1449
00:50:56,570 --> 00:50:57,340
That's my cat.

1450
00:50:57,390 --> 00:50:58,920
She's a Russian blue cat.

1451
00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:04,530
Her name is A R, P, E, E, G E, E or rpg.

1452
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,490
Oh, my gosh.

1453
00:51:09,110 --> 00:51:10,170
I actually did see

1454
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,940
her on one of your recent reels. Yeah.

1455
00:51:12,990 --> 00:51:13,880
So she's

1456
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:17,010
just such a Disney cat. Oh, my God, yes.

1457
00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:18,320
By Disney cat,

1458
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,290
do you mean she's like a sucker for the.

1459
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:21,510
The camera or.

1460
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,420
She literally

1461
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:24,450
looks like a cartoon cat. She's got,

1462
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:26,280
like the big button, round eyes.

1463
00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:29,640
And she's so romantic. She like, everybody.

1464
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,430
She does this too.

1465
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,680
So nobody's special here. But she'll like,

1466
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,770
you walk into the house,

1467
00:51:33,830 --> 00:51:36,960
suddenly you're on your back on the couch

1468
00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:38,950
and she's on your chest and you're like,

1469
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,410
how the hell did I get here?

1470
00:51:40,510 --> 00:51:42,670
And then she looks into your eyes

1471
00:51:42,850 --> 00:51:45,140
and she wraps her hand like this

1472
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:48,030
around your face and cuddles with it.

1473
00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:48,970
And all of a sudden her

1474
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,410
face is right here and you're like.

1475
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,490
She just starts giving you little kisses.

1476
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,030
I'm like Every person

1477
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,110
that comes into my apartment. And yeah,

1478
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,050
she's the romantic cat.

1479
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,120
Nice, that would be quite the Patronus.

1480
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:05,460
Just shows up and just like,

1481
00:52:05,590 --> 00:52:07,760
how did I get on my back? Oh, my gosh,

1482
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,710
I'm so disarmed. Wait,

1483
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,410
where did the person

1484
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:12,860
go that I was attacking? Oh, yeah, exactly.

1485
00:52:16,930 --> 00:52:18,110
Oh, it's my turn.

1486
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,740
What show was ended too soon?

1487
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,350
Torchwood and Fringe. Fringe. Fringe.

1488
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,720
Yeah, I've Heard of that one.

1489
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:32,070
It's a really good one.

1490
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,290
A lot of the episodes.

1491
00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:34,900
This is another Nerdom thing of mine.

1492
00:52:34,970 --> 00:52:36,290
Another one of the.

1493
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:39,860
All of the episodes had, like,

1494
00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:44,380
scientists from MIT and Harvard as, like, fact

1495
00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:47,120
checkers because it's all about. It's like,

1496
00:52:47,140 --> 00:52:48,680
the supernatural and, like,

1497
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,170
science and aliens and stuff. It's really cool.

1498
00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:53,490
Oh, yes. Aliens. That. That was the.

1499
00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:55,360
That was the thing I needed. Yes.

1500
00:52:55,460 --> 00:52:56,660
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1501
00:52:57,090 --> 00:52:58,760
Was there also. So that. Actually,

1502
00:52:58,820 --> 00:52:59,730
we have this question on here.

1503
00:52:59,750 --> 00:53:00,310
So I was gonna ask,

1504
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,700
do you believe in aliens?

1505
00:53:03,490 --> 00:53:05,990
I think so. I mean,

1506
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,320
I don't not believe in aliens.

1507
00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:10,740
That's an interesting way to say it.

1508
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:10,930
Yeah.

1509
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:11,320
It's like.

1510
00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:13,470
I don't know what the answer was.

1511
00:53:14,090 --> 00:53:15,670
Yeah. You know, if you consider

1512
00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:17,130
the infinity of the universe, it's

1513
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:19,890
hard to not believe in them in some capacity.

1514
00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:21,450
I have not been introduced

1515
00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:25,080
personally in this current timeline.

1516
00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:26,760
As far as, you know?

1517
00:53:27,110 --> 00:53:29,680
As far as I know. I mean, there's like.

1518
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:32,320
I went to a Starseed Festival. Like,

1519
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:35,100
people have had experiences. I've.

1520
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,310
I've spoken with people

1521
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:39,900
who've had very interesting experiences,

1522
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,570
and I would never discount

1523
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:44,030
them and their experience. Like, you can't.

1524
00:53:44,170 --> 00:53:46,160
You can't fake some of this stuff.

1525
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:47,190
And at the same time,

1526
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:48,070
I've never had an experience.

1527
00:53:48,130 --> 00:53:49,050
So I don't know.

1528
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:51,410
It's. It's tough. There's so many

1529
00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:52,540
people that talk about it,

1530
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,970
and there's so many people. Like, it's hard to.

1531
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:59,820
When there's that much experience out there,

1532
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,520
for people to share,

1533
00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:04,160
for it to not have

1534
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:05,860
some semblance of it being evidence.

1535
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,510
But it is all anecdotal.

1536
00:54:07,570 --> 00:54:08,970
It is all circumstantial.

1537
00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:10,470
And so there's no, like, hard

1538
00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:13,410
line evidence in the same way. But there is.

1539
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:15,110
There's a lot there.

1540
00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:17,760
I've had a lot of psychedelic experiences, and

1541
00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:22,980
I've had interactions in these experiences, but

1542
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,620
they were not in this dimension. So, therefore,

1543
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,530
is it an alien?

1544
00:54:27,590 --> 00:54:28,380
Is it not?

1545
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,280
I don't know.

1546
00:54:29,450 --> 00:54:30,430
How do you know?

1547
00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:32,430
I would like to meet one.

1548
00:54:34,050 --> 00:54:36,360
You said you play video games. Is that right?

1549
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,680
I do sometimes.

1550
00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:42,140
We all need what I like to call a nothing box.

1551
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,660
A place where we go to just do nothing.

1552
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,290
Maybe you don't need a nothing box,

1553
00:54:46,350 --> 00:54:47,700
but someone like me, I do.

1554
00:54:47,780 --> 00:54:48,970
What game would you

1555
00:54:49,010 --> 00:54:50,890
play when you need the nothing box?

1556
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,340
So I love this game,

1557
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,100
and it goes on and on and on and on.

1558
00:54:59,150 --> 00:55:02,720
It's called Two Dots. That's it. It's two dots.

1559
00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:05,660
And in the two dots, you connect dots.

1560
00:55:06,070 --> 00:55:09,950
There's a game called the Watcher

1561
00:55:10,090 --> 00:55:12,950
Is it called the Watcher, where you. It's.

1562
00:55:12,990 --> 00:55:15,760
You're on an island. The Witness.

1563
00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:17,260
That's what it is called, the Witness.

1564
00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:18,420
And you're on this island,

1565
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,210
and you walk up to a platform.

1566
00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:21,990
It's kind of mist. Like,

1567
00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:23,660
you walk up to this platform,

1568
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,790
and then you connect a

1569
00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:26,820
dot down a line to another dot,

1570
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,230
and then you follow the chords

1571
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:30,970
from that machine over to another place.

1572
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:32,910
And then you take that dot,

1573
00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:34,850
goes to another dot to another dot,

1574
00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:35,820
and the entire game

1575
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,280
teaches you how to play this game.

1576
00:55:37,370 --> 00:55:39,020
And it gets very complicated.

1577
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,340
You're using the horizon to connect

1578
00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:43,820
things and, like, depth. Like, it's crazy.

1579
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,740
This is a tiny,

1580
00:55:44,780 --> 00:55:47,180
tiny version of that. It is.

1581
00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:48,320
It is so cute.

1582
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:50,530
And it is not complicated.

1583
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:53,530
And it activates this, like,

1584
00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:56,510
grindy puzzle part of my brain.

1585
00:55:56,620 --> 00:55:58,090
But it's almost like,

1586
00:55:58,430 --> 00:55:59,600
you know when people play, like,

1587
00:55:59,630 --> 00:56:02,260
Bejeweled or, you know, like the. The slice.

1588
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,020
The ninja slice. Fruit games.

1589
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,570
Fruit. Ninja fruit.

1590
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:07,620
That one. Yeah.

1591
00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:09,640
It's like that to me, except for it's, like,

1592
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:12,910
really difficult and, like, satisfying.

1593
00:56:13,090 --> 00:56:13,550
Nice.

1594
00:56:13,620 --> 00:56:15,010
Cool. It's, like, puzzly.

1595
00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:16,820
Yeah, it's, like, really hard.

1596
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,960
But, yeah, it's funny because it doesn't

1597
00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:21,980
sound hard to connect two dots, but I. Like,

1598
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,060
it intrigues me.

1599
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,620
I will look it up now.

1600
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:25,420
Yeah. And

1601
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,930
if you get addicted to it, let me know.

1602
00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:29,180
Okay. Is there a referral program?

1603
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:30,110
If I have done.

1604
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:31,720
If I have done God's work.

1605
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,820
So subtitles on or off?

1606
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:41,090
Depends on what I'm doing.

1607
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,990
Well, subtitle. I'm curious. Like,

1608
00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:44,490
what does it depend on?

1609
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,570
I

1610
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:50,890
think I like subtitles.

1611
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:53,020
Trying to think

1612
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:54,400
of the last time I used subtitles.

1613
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:56,170
I feel like it was like

1614
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,890
watching Game of Thrones or something.

1615
00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:59,900
Yeah, Something with

1616
00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:02,530
lots of low dialogue. Because sound.

1617
00:57:03,110 --> 00:57:04,440
It just sucks now. Like,

1618
00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:05,190
I don't know why we

1619
00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:07,310
can have all this amazing technology,

1620
00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:09,590
but we can't make people and actors

1621
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,330
sound good through my speakers on my tv.

1622
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Yeah. Yeah. Or if I'm, like,

1623
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:15,650
out somewhere and I'm, like,

1624
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,890
watching TV on my phone,

1625
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,140
I really actually watch a lot of tv,

1626
00:57:20,070 --> 00:57:21,330
so I'll be like, on my phone,

1627
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,390
so I'll have subtitles.

1628
00:57:22,450 --> 00:57:23,280
So if I'm in public,

1629
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,460
I can just read it and

1630
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:27,820
I don't have headset or something. Um, but I.

1631
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:29,110
As an artist,

1632
00:57:29,860 --> 00:57:32,520
I spend a lot of time by myself. And

1633
00:57:32,530 --> 00:57:35,070
when I'm making and editing things, I, like,

1634
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:36,840
need TV on.

1635
00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:40,230
It sounds weird when I say it out loud.

1636
00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:42,290
No, that's okay. I'm. I'm

1637
00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:44,010
from the same generation I was, you know,

1638
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:45,460
I'm almost 40, so I.

1639
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,300
I think that that was just how.

1640
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,930
We just had TV on all the time.

1641
00:57:49,050 --> 00:57:50,640
All the time. All the time. Like, yeah,

1642
00:57:50,690 --> 00:57:52,120
during dinner, like,

1643
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:53,530
at school, like, everywhere. Like,

1644
00:57:53,540 --> 00:57:54,490
there was always tv. And I

1645
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:56,600
know we got these phones things now, but, like,

1646
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:58,070
it's not the same as having

1647
00:57:58,110 --> 00:57:59,780
just this running drone

1648
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,970
of things in the background. I get it. Like,

1649
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:03,570
I often have to have something on.

1650
00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:05,660
I even didn't get bring a TV into

1651
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:07,600
this house when I moved here in December.

1652
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:10,010
And then I found myself just using my iPad,

1653
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:12,090
and I could take it in any room.

1654
00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:14,950
Right, Right. Nice.

1655
00:58:15,110 --> 00:58:18,070
My. My last rapid fire. Here

1656
00:58:18,140 --> 00:58:20,950
is the last three books you've read.

1657
00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:29,010
Oh. $1 million leads by Alex Hermosi.

1658
00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:30,180
It's a great book.

1659
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,590
Oh, man. Are you on school yet?

1660
00:58:33,140 --> 00:58:35,290
Not yet, but I just got. Okay. I did sign up.

1661
00:58:35,310 --> 00:58:36,060
I have not checked it out.

1662
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,010
I've just been too busy.

1663
00:58:37,070 --> 00:58:39,300
But is it awesome? I'm curious.

1664
00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:40,680
It's pretty cool.

1665
00:58:40,810 --> 00:58:42,130
It's pretty cool.

1666
00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:43,890
Yeah. I want to dig in on that. It's

1667
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:44,570
something I wanted to bring

1668
00:58:44,590 --> 00:58:46,000
up for one of our talking nerdies.

1669
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,920
Actually found is this thing called school,

1670
00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:48,810
so we'll have to check.

1671
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,610
Satine, are you looking

1672
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,280
at your Goodreads right now?

1673
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:52,320
My audible.

1674
00:58:52,460 --> 00:58:53,940
I'm trying to figure out what I can tell

1675
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:57,530
you and what I was too exposing for me.

1676
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,040
So I am reading something

1677
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:04,640
called right now called Terror,

1678
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,000
Love and brainwashing,

1679
00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:08,070
because I feel like I'm writing a book.

1680
00:59:08,110 --> 00:59:10,130
I'm writing a couple books. Sirens, obviously,

1681
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,490
that will be finished first,

1682
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,820
but one of them is on the cult, like, way

1683
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,460
I was grown up, I grew up, right, with, like,

1684
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,740
the cult of one, my father, and then, like,

1685
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:23,300
my relationship with men. And

1686
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,640
so this is a fascinating book called Terror,

1687
00:59:26,670 --> 00:59:29,070
Love and brainwashing by Alexander Stein.

1688
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:33,220
And it goes into just religious cults,

1689
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,650
political cults,

1690
00:59:34,820 --> 00:59:36,500
individual relationship cults,

1691
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,810
and how these, like, very single. These, like,

1692
00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:43,430
simple threads are, like,

1693
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,720
just basically narcissistic abuse,

1694
00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:47,700
but also coercion and all

1695
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,920
this other stuff and how easy it is,

1696
00:59:50,010 --> 00:59:52,110
especially for smart people.

1697
00:59:52,780 --> 00:59:55,630
It's almost like you would think, oh, you know,

1698
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:57,930
weak people or vulnerable people. No, like,

1699
00:59:57,970 --> 00:59:59,740
literally their target, smart people.

1700
00:59:59,780 --> 01:00:04,440
So I'm really obsessed with that for my book.

1701
01:00:04,530 --> 01:00:06,860
And then the last one. Oh.

1702
01:00:07,010 --> 01:00:08,610
Is you are the one you've

1703
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:10,410
been waiting for by Richard Schwartz.

1704
01:00:10,450 --> 01:00:12,510
So it does a lot of the internal systems,

1705
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:13,550
but there's kind of a big

1706
01:00:13,580 --> 01:00:16,510
movement right now with, like, love yourself,

1707
01:00:16,580 --> 01:00:17,950
then you can love someone else.

1708
01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:19,220
And so that's.

1709
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:21,800
That's that one which is Funny, because

1710
01:00:22,340 --> 01:00:24,930
I swore that I was reading something by, like,

1711
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:26,870
Napoleon Hill and, like, other ones,

1712
01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:30,580
but I think I had to restart my. My phone.

1713
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,470
But I also

1714
01:00:31,530 --> 01:00:33,720
listen to a lot of, like, business books.

1715
01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:35,500
Yeah, the first one you

1716
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,860
mentioned sounded like one.

1717
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:37,700
I don't know it.

1718
01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:38,310
I mean, but

1719
01:00:38,330 --> 01:00:40,140
Chris does Alex Haro's books.

1720
01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:41,260
So he's got $100 million

1721
01:00:41,590 --> 01:00:43,280
leads and then $100 million.

1722
01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:44,500
Million dollar offers.

1723
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,340
Yes.

1724
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,140
So offers came first. And it's. I mean,

1725
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:48,790
if you just want to learn

1726
01:00:48,810 --> 01:00:50,460
how to sell almost anything,

1727
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,440
it's a really good.

1728
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:53,660
And I also recommend his podcast.

1729
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,480
I don't usually recommend other podcasts,

1730
01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:56,510
especially business ones,

1731
01:00:56,550 --> 01:00:58,360
but it's so good. We're pretty good.

1732
01:00:58,420 --> 01:01:01,980
But he has a really good business podcast.

1733
01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:03,270
It will make you money and

1734
01:01:03,290 --> 01:01:04,650
make you rich if you listen to it.

1735
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,320
And if it's on Audible,

1736
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:09,830
you can listen to his audio books for free.

1737
01:01:09,930 --> 01:01:11,870
He basically has found a way. He's like, I just

1738
01:01:11,890 --> 01:01:14,550
want to give all of my stuff away. I'm like, I

1739
01:01:14,590 --> 01:01:19,500
wish if for some reason, my, like, my company,

1740
01:01:19,630 --> 01:01:21,610
my new supplement company

1741
01:01:21,770 --> 01:01:25,100
goes haywire and I start making, like,

1742
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,650
I start raining money,

1743
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:28,960
I would totally give people

1744
01:01:29,050 --> 01:01:31,150
their money back for Sirens books,

1745
01:01:31,260 --> 01:01:33,340
and I would finish the book. But, like,

1746
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,930
that's not how the world works. Yeah.

1747
01:01:36,110 --> 01:01:39,540
Yeah. You know, I, I, I only have one more,

1748
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,690
and I'm curious.

1749
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:41,890
It's not going to be nerdy,

1750
01:01:41,930 --> 01:01:43,840
but Tupac or Biggie?

1751
01:01:45,050 --> 01:01:47,980
Neither. Yeah. Not into. Yeah.

1752
01:01:48,130 --> 01:01:49,820
Not into wrap. That's okay.

1753
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:51,220
And that was my era, too, and.

1754
01:01:51,230 --> 01:01:53,460
It'S Biggie, but that's okay, because I.

1755
01:01:53,470 --> 01:01:54,970
Would have said Tupac, but.

1756
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,290
Yeah, well, you. I figure

1757
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,720
if you're on the West Coast, I had to ask.

1758
01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,490
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1759
01:02:00,070 --> 01:02:02,350
Well, you know, we. We covered

1760
01:02:02,370 --> 01:02:03,490
a lot of ground in our,

1761
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,990
in our time here. Satine,

1762
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:06,240
I thank you so much for being

1763
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,090
generous with your time and

1764
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,000
being willing to take this time with us.

1765
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:11,380
I know our listeners are going to love it,

1766
01:02:11,470 --> 01:02:13,300
and we had a great time talking with you,

1767
01:02:13,820 --> 01:02:15,290
I gotta say. Like,

1768
01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:16,170
I know you have

1769
01:02:16,220 --> 01:02:17,950
more that you could give around, like,

1770
01:02:18,030 --> 01:02:20,300
the biohacking and, like, you're into, like,

1771
01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:21,610
fitness and health and, like,

1772
01:02:21,660 --> 01:02:23,140
all these other things that we didn't even

1773
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,070
really get a chance to talk about. So, I mean,

1774
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:25,700
if there's a time

1775
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,920
in the future that we can talk, dive into,

1776
01:02:27,950 --> 01:02:29,100
even just some of the stuff, you know,

1777
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,220
on health and wellness and, like,

1778
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:33,560
and the physical fitness side of thing.

1779
01:02:33,590 --> 01:02:34,640
I know you've got a lot there

1780
01:02:34,670 --> 01:02:36,950
that you can probably help with, too.

1781
01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:38,740
I'd love to have you Back on sometime.

1782
01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:40,490
Boosting mitochondria,

1783
01:02:40,660 --> 01:02:43,930
elongating your telomeres, peptides,

1784
01:02:45,140 --> 01:02:47,160
weight loss. Oh, man.

1785
01:02:47,620 --> 01:02:49,030
An entire two hours?

1786
01:02:49,110 --> 01:02:52,220
Yeah, like. Like, I. We just. I know we just

1787
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,800
didn't get a chance to get into that, but if.

1788
01:02:53,830 --> 01:02:54,550
If you're open to it, we'd

1789
01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:56,280
love to have you back sometime for, you know,

1790
01:02:56,310 --> 01:02:57,430
another season and what we.

1791
01:02:57,490 --> 01:02:59,840
When we can chat about it. But for now,

1792
01:03:00,180 --> 01:03:02,170
how can people find you?

1793
01:03:02,340 --> 01:03:03,820
Get coaching from you and

1794
01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:05,910
just get more from Sateen Phoenix?

1795
01:03:06,050 --> 01:03:08,840
Absolutely. So you can go to

1796
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:11,780
TatinePhoenix on all the social medias.

1797
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,290
My podcast is called Feel Younger, Think Wiser.

1798
01:03:14,310 --> 01:03:16,300
It's for people who are over 40 or

1799
01:03:16,340 --> 01:03:17,640
approaching 40 who want to figure out

1800
01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:21,480
how to live for the next 60 years. And yeah, so

1801
01:03:21,490 --> 01:03:24,000
you can get coaching from sateen phoenix.com.

1802
01:03:24,170 --> 01:03:24,850
i can also

1803
01:03:24,910 --> 01:03:27,340
run you a human design chart. I don't know.

1804
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,010
I feel so like when I do it.

1805
01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:32,960
And also we've got a supplement coming out.

1806
01:03:33,090 --> 01:03:34,740
It's called Lion's Mane Supplements.

1807
01:03:34,780 --> 01:03:36,700
He just got these. It's like business.

1808
01:03:36,860 --> 01:03:38,220
So I'm literally setting

1809
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,460
up the Amazon storefront right now,

1810
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,640
and you guys are the first ones to see this.

1811
01:03:43,180 --> 01:03:43,720
That's awesome.

1812
01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:44,730
Lion's Mane is awesome.

1813
01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:46,850
I eat that regularly.

1814
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,770
So cool. This one's 10. 10 different ones.

1815
01:03:49,820 --> 01:03:52,840
We've got lion's mane, cordyceps,

1816
01:03:52,990 --> 01:03:57,000
shiitake, chaga, mataki, reishi, turkey tail,

1817
01:03:57,070 --> 01:04:00,130
and then a bunch of others. And so, yeah,

1818
01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:02,390
this is like you want your brain to function,

1819
01:04:02,450 --> 01:04:06,720
like really high neurogenesis. Yeah.

1820
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:08,130
So that's Lion's Main supplements.

1821
01:04:08,190 --> 01:04:08,920
Is there. Is

1822
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:10,820
there anything else that you would

1823
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:13,660
like that we brought up or haven't

1824
01:04:13,690 --> 01:04:16,160
brought up that you would like to share?

1825
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:18,490
Go to my website, satin phoenix.com

1826
01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:19,510
and download for free

1827
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,680
the Healthy Habit Hero Journal.

1828
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,230
It's five weeks and all.

1829
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,570
Almost all it does.

1830
01:04:25,610 --> 01:04:26,840
It's like the first two or three

1831
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:30,500
weeks is just seeing yourself. That's it.

1832
01:04:30,670 --> 01:04:32,480
It's not telling you what to do. It's

1833
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:34,760
just you recording who you are in this moment.

1834
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,700
And I think that that is so powerful

1835
01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:39,650
and important and just like, know you.

1836
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,900
Don't try to be you from the past.

1837
01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:43,070
Be you right now.

1838
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,470
Do your best right now.

1839
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,030
And even if it's not your best,

1840
01:04:46,110 --> 01:04:47,830
at least be okay with that,

1841
01:04:47,930 --> 01:04:48,940
because that's okay.

1842
01:04:49,070 --> 01:04:51,780
I downloaded that, by the way. It is awesome.

1843
01:04:52,070 --> 01:04:52,840
Highly recommend it.

1844
01:04:52,860 --> 01:04:55,010
Go check it out@satinephoenix.com

1845
01:04:55,490 --> 01:04:56,620
thank you so much for coming

1846
01:04:56,650 --> 01:04:58,530
in and chatting with us today.

1847
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,280
We appreciate it a lot. And as always,

1848
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,890
everybody keep it nerdy.