1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,220 Hey coaches, Erin here, and today I've got some surprising advice from my mindset coach. 2 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:13,440 Hi, I'm Erin Power. I'm a health coach, a health coaching educator and mentor, and your host of 3 00:00:13,470 --> 00:00:18,840 Health Coach Radio. This podcast delves into the art, science, and business of health coaching. 4 00:00:19,900 --> 00:00:24,440 Whether you're aspiring to land a coaching dream job or to embark on your own entrepreneurial 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,640 adventure, we cover it all. Our mission is to help you grow your career, elevate your income, 6 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:32,040 change the lives of the clients who need your help, 7 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:35,480 and leave a lasting mark in this rapidly growing field. 8 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:39,200 It's time for health coaches to make an impact. 9 00:00:40,220 --> 00:00:41,800 It's time for Health Coach Radio. 10 00:00:43,860 --> 00:00:45,280 That's right, I have a mindset coach. 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,620 I actually have tons of coaches. 12 00:00:47,620 --> 00:00:49,060 I have two business coaches. 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,580 So I've got one business coach that specializes in paid traffic funnels. 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:02,720 So paying for ads and getting clients to come through a funnel into my call calendar ultimately. 15 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:14,940 And I have a second business coach with whom I'm in a mastermind group with a dozen and a half or so other female wellness industry business owners like me at my level. 16 00:01:15,940 --> 00:01:24,720 And my mastermind coach helps me with kind of every other aspect of growing my business and generally building and growing my brand. 17 00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:31,420 And I've recently also joined another mastermind group with another coach, a messaging guru, 18 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:37,200 who's going to help me position myself as kind of like a uniquely fascinating expert in my field. 19 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,820 I know that sounds so pompous, so much hubris in that statement. 20 00:01:41,950 --> 00:01:47,620 But I do think there's something about being as interesting as possible 21 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,440 if you want to actually stand out in this online space. 22 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,020 And I'm not actually that interesting. 23 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,180 So I'm going to learn how to be. 24 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,320 At least I want to try. 25 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,580 I have copywriting coaches who help me with writing ads that convert and that are compliant 26 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:07,160 with Meta's advertising policies. 27 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,400 They also help me with, you know, compelling content creation and clarifying my messaging. 28 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,260 And I have a mindset coach. 29 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:19,380 Coaches need coaches, and I've got a lot of them. 30 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,900 So I attended a coaching call with my mindset coach a week or so ago. 31 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,420 And in that coaching call, I shared two things with her. 32 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:30,520 So first of all, I shared a win. 33 00:02:31,220 --> 00:02:36,700 Okay, so in a coaching call, whether you're the client or the coach, I think it's always 34 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:38,680 a good idea to start with a win. 35 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:44,140 One thing that's going well, because it helps us to train the muscles that recognize successes. 36 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,140 So we're not just in failure mode. 37 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:53,240 But I think maybe sometimes the coaching relationship can be that way where it's like, I need help with this thing I'm stuck on. 38 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:55,620 So I'm going to go tap into my coach, which is great. 39 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,520 That's why a coach is there. 40 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:57,380 That's why you're a coach. 41 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,460 That's why you have a coach. 42 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,020 You lean in for support. 43 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:09,400 And in doing so, it's worthwhile and useful to just strengthen your connection to what is going well. 44 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,100 Not just the failures, not just the struggles. 45 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,660 And to be really honest with you, the only reason I was on the call with my mindset coach was because I was struggling. 46 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,880 I was feeling big failure vibes. 47 00:03:22,860 --> 00:03:23,540 More on that later. 48 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:35,080 So my win that I shared with my mindset coach is that I consistently see struggles as opportunities now. 49 00:03:35,620 --> 00:03:36,020 I do. 50 00:03:36,220 --> 00:03:36,580 I do. 51 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,020 When I'm struggling, I see opportunity in that. 52 00:03:40,140 --> 00:03:43,300 And I can't say that I always looked at difficulty that way. 53 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,980 And so in, you know, trying to rack my brain to come up with a win, I was pretty excited 54 00:03:49,959 --> 00:03:53,940 to reflect on that and observe that although I'm kind of in the middle of some struggles, 55 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,060 I didn't feel doomsday about it. 56 00:03:57,330 --> 00:03:57,920 Do you know what I mean? 57 00:03:57,970 --> 00:03:59,040 It wasn't the end of the world. 58 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:04,220 I knew it was temporary and I simply needed to push through it or get through it. 59 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:06,320 Get through, nevermind pushing through. 60 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:13,240 Next week's solo episode is loosely titled Lessons Learned from a Slow Month in Business. 61 00:04:13,780 --> 00:04:18,880 Okay, so I'll share more about what I learned from this terrible month I was having. 62 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,280 But that's what brought me to this mindset call of my mindset coach. 63 00:04:26,020 --> 00:04:36,580 And in this moment, I wasn't interested in solving the leaks or the potential problems in my business model. 64 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:43,020 I was at this coaching call specifically to get my mind right so I could leverage my struggles into 65 00:04:43,380 --> 00:04:47,660 growth. And you know what? I think that's awesome. I can't believe I've become that kind of person. 66 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,420 I wasn't born that way. I'm just like a lot of you. I struggle with, you know, 67 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:57,640 worthiness and imposter syndrome and all of those feelings that we have that keep us stuck. 68 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,100 But through enough practice and enough failure and enough success, 69 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:08,940 I feel like I've really developed that part of my personality that can turn struggles into something leverageable. 70 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:11,360 And anyway, that's why I was at this coaching call. 71 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,800 And that was also the win I wanted to share. 72 00:05:15,020 --> 00:05:18,780 Now, I want to validate that I think that sounds a little bro-y, what I just said. 73 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:24,500 Kind of makes me sound like a bit of a biohacker, like self-optimization kind of guy. 74 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:32,820 And I don't think it's realistic to pathologically reframe every struggle into growth and potential. 75 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:39,220 and I think anyone who tells you that that you should do that every time that or that they do 76 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,960 that every time that they never wallow when they're having periods of struggle and they only 77 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:50,160 ever are launching forward and forward and forward I think they're lying do you know what I mean you 78 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,400 see these pretty sanctimonious personal growth types who lead you to believe that they're just 79 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:01,439 always on the upswing even during the low points now I spend time in low points I allow myself 80 00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:08,160 to wallow here and there, some self-soothing. But inevitably, I dust myself off. I bootstrap 81 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:15,420 myself back up because the only way out is through. And that's not, that's not sanctimonious 82 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:24,100 self-optimization bro speak. That's just true. Are you a health coach who wants more hands-on 83 00:06:24,260 --> 00:06:30,299 coaching training? Are you thinking about becoming board certified? Primal Health Coach Institute's 84 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Master Coach Certification Program checks both of those boxes. It's live, so you get to ask 85 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:40,560 questions as you go. And we cap the number of students for each round, so you get individualized 86 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,340 attention and plenty of opportunity to practice your coaching skills with faculty and peers. 87 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,560 Coaches become great with experience. And this course fast tracks that educational experience, 88 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:58,500 so you don't have to spend years learning directly from clients. You'll know exactly how to coach for 89 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,780 optimal results in just 12 weeks. It also prepares you to sit for the National Board of Health and 90 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,060 Wellness Coaches exam so you can become a board-certified health coach. We only offer 91 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:14,000 this certification program twice a year and it fills up fast. So be sure to learn more at 92 00:07:14,140 --> 00:07:21,919 primalhealthcoach.com and reserve your seat soon. So my win was still 93 00:07:26,139 --> 00:07:29,400 believing that even my bad month was going to be good. 94 00:07:32,020 --> 00:07:36,600 So we start the coaching conversation with the win and then that's sort of your ante. Once you've 95 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,120 anteed up, then you can share your struggle. So my struggle, the thing I wanted help working through 96 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:50,019 with my mindset coach was to how to deal with my feelings of inadequacy that were underlying this 97 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,300 difficult sort of month I was having a business. There are things I need to fix in my business, 98 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:58,020 whatever that is. I need to keep, you know, consistent traffic coming through, keeping 99 00:07:58,130 --> 00:08:03,860 people engaged, nurturing, growing. I need to do all that, all that tactical stuff. And I'm working 100 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:13,640 on it. And I need to work on the way I feel about it. It felt like the opposite of everything I 101 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,920 touched turned to gold. Like everything I touched turned to garbage. That's what I was feeling. 102 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,500 That's the energy I was carrying around. 103 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,540 My self-esteem had taken a hit, just a temporary one. 104 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,440 And just so you know, this just happens. 105 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,460 It's just going to happen. 106 00:08:27,620 --> 00:08:27,860 It's okay. 107 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:29,260 It's fine. 108 00:08:30,740 --> 00:08:31,180 You'll live. 109 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:37,460 My coach listened patiently as I tried to describe this. 110 00:08:37,510 --> 00:08:41,860 When I tried to describe it, I tried really hard not to be victim-y about it because I 111 00:08:41,979 --> 00:08:43,820 don't think the victim-y energy is very productive. 112 00:08:44,860 --> 00:08:55,180 So I tried to be pragmatic, allowing myself to feel things, but also just sharing, you know, as directly as possible what I was feeling and why and how that was manifesting in my behaviors. 113 00:08:56,220 --> 00:09:09,900 And my coach asked very curious and exploratory questions to get some inventory of how I was feeling, how I was feeling, how I wanted to feel, and then what was the barrier or the gap in between those two. 114 00:09:11,820 --> 00:09:12,560 That's coaching, baby. 115 00:09:12,890 --> 00:09:13,720 What do you want? 116 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:14,820 Where are you now? 117 00:09:14,890 --> 00:09:17,580 And what's this no man's land between the two? 118 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:22,900 And what's the next step we can take to get you closer to your desired outcome? 119 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,540 So coaching 101. 120 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:36,340 So how I was feeling was directionless, sluggish, pessimistic, irritated, 121 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:39,400 a lot of those kind of low vibe feelings, you know? 122 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:42,740 What I wanted to feel was the exact opposite. 123 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,820 I wanted to feel the exact opposite. I wanted to feel directional. I wanted to feel energetic. 124 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,020 I wanted to feel optimistic. I wanted to feel delighted and inspired by what I was doing. 125 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,020 So we had that sort of inventory. How do I feel now? How do I want to feel? 126 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,600 And after a moment of thinking, she said to me, do you mind if I share an idea with you? 127 00:10:04,460 --> 00:10:10,980 And this is a great coaching tactic, by the way. As a coach, we can offer suggestions, 128 00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:17,020 resources and anecdotes. We can. You know, I teach advanced coaching strategies at Primal Health 129 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:20,720 Coach Institute, and there's a lot of question asking, a lot of active listening that's very 130 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,540 crucial in the motivational interviewing skill set, the active listening piece. And the way active 131 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,760 listening is often taught is this method of asking for more, asking for more, asking for more, 132 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:36,779 teasing out what is already known and understood from within the client rather than teaching and 133 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:42,660 telling and talking, but we can do some teaching and telling and talking as well. You're allowed. 134 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:50,620 We can offer suggestions. We can offer resources. We can offer anecdotes. Absolutely. But we never 135 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,900 want to set up the coach-client relationship as this like boss subordinate paradigm. 136 00:10:58,340 --> 00:11:03,440 You know, like there's some hierarchy. So by asking permission to share an idea, 137 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:07,260 The coach keeps the client in a leadership role. 138 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,280 So my mindset coach said to me, would you mind if I shared some ideas with you? 139 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,000 And by doing that, she was keeping me in the leadership role. 140 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,860 She didn't say, here's what you need to do. 141 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:21,000 She said, would you mind if I shared some ideas with you? 142 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:24,880 Small change of language, but language is very crucial in this relationship we have. 143 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:26,540 Jot that down, baby. 144 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:28,740 Use that in your coaching conversations. 145 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,440 So she said to me, is the weather nice where you are today by any chance? 146 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:39,080 And I looked out the window and I said, well, you know what? 147 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:41,020 Actually, it is for the first time all summer. 148 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,380 We had kind of a rainy summer and it was kind of miserable and hard to get outside. 149 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:45,340 But today is quite nice. 150 00:11:46,780 --> 00:11:51,580 And she said, is there any good nature around or like a hiking trail? 151 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Preferably something she specifically said, preferably something that's pretty epic and like vast. 152 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,140 Great words, epic and vast. 153 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,040 And as it turns out, I live in Alberta, which is epic and vast. 154 00:12:06,380 --> 00:12:13,160 So she said, I think, tell me what you think, but I think it would be really helpful to you 155 00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:16,680 to feel a sense of awe and smallness. 156 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:18,880 Because right now, everything feels hard. 157 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:25,860 And everything feels so important and close to you and so inflamed and just irritated. 158 00:12:26,980 --> 00:12:29,220 I used the word irritated when I described how I was feeling. 159 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:30,340 It was just a word that came up. 160 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:31,740 It's like, it's all right there. 161 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:35,220 So close to you, like stuck on you like a burr. 162 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,520 You can't shake it off. 163 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:39,640 That's what it felt like. 164 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,220 It's really cool to anchor into feelings like that and actually give them a little visualization. 165 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,120 And, you know, she was speaking the language of nature, which is a language that I really like to speak. 166 00:12:49,220 --> 00:12:53,600 So, yes, a burr stuck to me, irritating, inflamed, annoying. 167 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:06,860 She said, I wonder if getting out to some place where you are very small will offer you a perspective on how small everything actually is. 168 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:09,900 Because it feels big right now because it's up close right in front of you. 169 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:16,820 But if you are able to expand your horizons, everything will feel smaller. 170 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:23,920 She said, and I wonder if feeling a sense of awe will shake up your viewpoint. 171 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:30,920 literally first of all literally changing what your eyes are focusing on from computers and 172 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,380 frowny faces you know that that thinking facial expression you might make when you're peeved and 173 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:46,940 just like kind of clenched to looking out exploring horizons he says i wonder if a feeling of a sense 174 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:52,799 of awe will shake up your viewpoint and remind you what is vastly possible in the universe 175 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,120 in the universe. My mindset coach talks about the universe a lot, even though I don't really 176 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,720 understand what she means by that because I'm not really, I don't speak in the language of the 177 00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:07,860 universe very much. It's okay. But she was framing it in the context of terra firma, really. So that 178 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:12,820 I understand. Standing amongst the mountains and seeing all the other vast mountains around me. 179 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,879 It's an interesting anchor idea to offer perspective. I really think, I think it was 180 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:24,120 neat. Even as a visualization, whether or not I actually literally went out to the mountains 181 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:31,440 to hike and look at the viewpoints, imagining that, framing it in that way was genius. 182 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:39,300 So I closed my laptop. I got in my car. I drove west out to the Rocky Mountains and hiked up a 183 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:46,619 steep hill until I was totally out of breath. And I sat at the top of this hike, looking at peaks 184 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:54,960 still much higher than I was and recognize that while what I do matters so much to me, 185 00:14:55,540 --> 00:14:58,860 it's just not everything. It's literally not everything. 186 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:08,400 And you know what? On a very simple level, moving my body like that energized me. So deep breathing 187 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:15,560 as I moved up that hill, drove oxygen into the dusty, tired corners of my brain and my cells and 188 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:19,220 my lungs, you know, you know, that posture you might take when you're working and ruminating 189 00:15:19,260 --> 00:15:26,800 on something. Again, it's that sort of anterior squeezed in constricted body language where you 190 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:30,020 have to release all that if you're going to walk up the side of a hill 191 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:36,760 to breathe and expand. It just made me feel better. Breathing made me feel better. Who knew? 192 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,200 It made me smile and lighten up my facial expression. When you have a smile on your face, 193 00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:48,340 It's actually very hard to feel anything but content and delight and optimism. 194 00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:54,860 It's hard to smile and feel those pessimistic, irritated feelings. 195 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:04,960 It's just nearly impossible to be smiling and breathing and rosy-cheeked and sun-kissed while also feeling like a grouch. 196 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:14,880 When you're struggling in your health coaching business or your practice or whatever you're doing 197 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:20,840 or any, I don't know, anything in your life, understand that most of your struggle 198 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:28,560 is your own mood. You are not objectively failing. Like using the example that I'm using here, 199 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:36,720 slow business does not equal failure. Slow doesn't mean it's stopped. Slow business doesn't mean I'm 200 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:43,760 out of business. Objectively, it's nothing. Unless I consciously decide I've failed. 201 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:53,120 And those decisions can be easier to decide into when your mood is low, when you haven't been 202 00:16:53,340 --> 00:16:57,400 breathing, when you've been stuck in a dark room, when you've been frowning all day. 203 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:06,319 So changing the environment, changing your facial expression, changing the stature of your body, 204 00:17:06,459 --> 00:17:13,980 changing your scenery can change your perspective immensely. And so my mindset coach helped me to 205 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:20,300 learn that I get to decide how I feel about my job. And I can change the way I feel about it if I want 206 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:26,920 to. This podcast was brought to you by Primal Health Coach Institute. To learn more about how 207 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:32,099 to become a successful health coach, get in touch with us by visiting primalhealthcoach.com forward 208 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:37,360 slash call. 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