Speaker 1: When we reach perimenopause and menopause,
Speaker 1: we arrive with a certain hormonal imbalance
Speaker 1: already Right, and that's what's not being
Speaker 1: addressed, and so it really is all about
Speaker 1: the pre-hormone system how you're producing
Speaker 1: your hormones or not.
Speaker 2: Three things you're going to learn from
Speaker 2: this episode today.
Speaker 2: Number one, why most doctors are using
Speaker 2: outdated science.
Speaker 2: Number two, the real reasons you're tired
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 2: And number three, how to become the CEO of
Speaker 2: your own body.
Speaker 2: Welcome to this episode of the Heartbeat
Speaker 2: for Hire podcast.
Speaker 2: I feature Olympians, ceos, disruptors,
Speaker 2: authors, professional athletes and the best
Speaker 2: of the best where they share their stories
Speaker 2: of resilience with my lens on leadership
Speaker 2: and culture.
Speaker 2: Let's get started.
Speaker 2: What do you get when you combine a
Speaker 2: naturopathic physician who refuses to
Speaker 2: accept outdated data as gospel, the world's
Speaker 2: leading authority on the pre-hormone system,
Speaker 2: a straight-talking women's health expert
Speaker 2: who calls herself the hormone boss and a
Speaker 2: mission to help women actually feel like
Speaker 2: themselves again?
Speaker 2: You get Dr Iris Crawford.
Speaker 2: She is here to rewrite how we talk about
Speaker 2: hormones, burnout, mood, energy and the
Speaker 2: invisible load women carry every day.
Speaker 2: And trust me, once you hear her break this
Speaker 2: down, you will never look at hormones the
Speaker 2: same way again.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, my friend.
Speaker 1: Hi, thank you so much, Lindsay, for having
Speaker 1: me.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 2: I am so happy you're here and I start every
Speaker 2: show the same way and I always ask our
Speaker 2: guests to please share a little bit of
Speaker 2: their story our guests to please share a
Speaker 2: little bit of their story.
Speaker 1: Where to begin?
Speaker 1: Well, let's see my story.
Speaker 1: I think my story really starts with the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, I grew up in a family
Speaker 1: where it was just my mom and my sister and
Speaker 1: I, and you know, my mom was sick all the
Speaker 1: time and we didn't have money or resources
Speaker 1: and she, you know, she, was in and out of
Speaker 1: the hospital.
Speaker 1: She didn't know anything about health and
Speaker 1: that was really difficult and I knew from
Speaker 1: an early age that that wasn't, that there
Speaker 1: was something wrong with that.
Speaker 1: It just didn't like align with me.
Speaker 1: And so eventually I I met someone, I think
Speaker 1: when I was a teenager, I met someone who,
Speaker 1: you know, she, she and her mom were
Speaker 1: vegetarian and and like they, they lived
Speaker 1: this healthy lifestyle and I was just like
Speaker 1: Whoa, you know, I didn't even know any of
Speaker 1: that, was that that existed?
Speaker 1: And just kind of a light bulb went off and
Speaker 1: I'm like I want that.
Speaker 1: And then, you know a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: years go by and I'm finally able to kind of
Speaker 1: get into.
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted education.
Speaker 1: I wanted, I wanted to know everything about
Speaker 1: the world and and the way that I was raised.
Speaker 1: You know, education wasn't really, you know,
Speaker 1: valued and no one even graduated from high
Speaker 1: school right.
Speaker 1: So I eventually got my GED and then I got
Speaker 1: into, I went to a community college.
Speaker 1: I did my high school in community college.
Speaker 1: Basically, I went four years to a community
Speaker 1: college.
Speaker 1: I did my high school in community college.
Speaker 1: Basically, I went four years to a community
Speaker 1: college and during that time I was able to
Speaker 1: um, go on a tour of um, a naturopathic
Speaker 1: medical university it was a college at the
Speaker 1: time in Seattle and um, and I just looked
Speaker 1: at the curriculum and I was like this ology
Speaker 1: and that ology and my mind was just like
Speaker 1: exploding because I was just hungry for
Speaker 1: knowledge, and I knew from the way that my
Speaker 1: family was experiencing life that the way
Speaker 1: out of poverty was through health, because
Speaker 1: it just seemed like those two things went
Speaker 1: hand in hand.
Speaker 1: So it just drove me to want to, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah, create something totally different
Speaker 1: from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, health and education, right, I mean
Speaker 2: education introduced you to a paradigm and
Speaker 2: a way of living and information that you
Speaker 2: never would have had, and that's not your
Speaker 2: fault that that was the way that you were,
Speaker 2: you were raised, but now that you know
Speaker 2: better, you can do better.
Speaker 2: So, okay, so you get introduced to this
Speaker 2: naturopathic way of being.
Speaker 2: And then what happened?
Speaker 1: Well, so then I went on a very long journey
Speaker 1: of completing college and had a lot of
Speaker 1: failures on the way.
Speaker 1: You know, I really struggled because I
Speaker 1: didn't have the support and the resources
Speaker 1: that maybe a lot of people have Right, and
Speaker 1: so I really struggled.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to do school.
Speaker 1: You know, and well learning to study is, is
Speaker 1: not?
Speaker 2: you don't come wired with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Plus, you know my mom, my mom
Speaker 2: was.
Speaker 1: She had mental illness and growing up in
Speaker 1: that kind of instability, that volatility
Speaker 1: it does, it does things to a developing
Speaker 1: brain Right and and I think that I was a
Speaker 1: different learner and so I wasn't one of
Speaker 1: those people who could just um, I wasn't a
Speaker 1: really good test taker, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean?
Speaker 1: Um, I was a very good student, though I was
Speaker 1: a straight A student and, uh, by the time I
Speaker 1: got to medical school, I was definitely a
Speaker 1: straight A student and had many years
Speaker 1: behind me.
Speaker 1: And then, when I got into medical school,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good experience.
Speaker 1: It was very, very traumatic.
Speaker 1: So I actually ended up getting dismissed
Speaker 1: and then I had to transfer to a different
Speaker 1: medical school.
Speaker 1: You know, thanks to the support of my
Speaker 1: husband he was I, because I was just
Speaker 1: devastated.
Speaker 1: I thought this was my entire everything
Speaker 1: everything you bet on for 10 years I've
Speaker 1: been going to college and doing all these
Speaker 1: things to get into this medical school and
Speaker 1: I thought my dream was over all of that,
Speaker 1: and so I ended up transferring to a
Speaker 1: different medical school.
Speaker 1: And it turns out it wasn't me, so it was.
Speaker 1: You know that that school had a lot of
Speaker 1: problems going on, that one thing led to
Speaker 1: another and it was just the situation was
Speaker 1: not right.
Speaker 1: So once I kind of let go, I was gripping
Speaker 1: that, thinking that was the only way to my
Speaker 1: dream.
Speaker 1: And once I let go of that, I went to this
Speaker 1: other medical school and I was so.
Speaker 1: It was like night and day.
Speaker 1: I was welcomed, I had an instant community.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just an incredible
Speaker 1: experience, and so I really was lucky that
Speaker 1: that happened.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a better doctor now because of
Speaker 1: that experience.
Speaker 1: So I'm really fortunate and, you know,
Speaker 1: grateful for that experience, even though
Speaker 1: it was very difficult.
Speaker 1: And then when I did finally graduate, so it
Speaker 1: was like 15 years of college, five of which
Speaker 1: medical school, and then, you know, after
Speaker 1: that, because that was all so traumatic, I
Speaker 1: mean I was burned out.
Speaker 1: I was burned out, I was exhausted, I was
Speaker 1: having panic attacks, I was overweight, I
Speaker 1: couldn't, and I was the naturopathic doctor
Speaker 1: and I figured that out for myself, right,
Speaker 1: you know that.
Speaker 1: so that's kind of like, yeah, so that was.
Speaker 1: I graduated almost 20 years ago.
Speaker 2: And so that was, yeah, the first kind of
Speaker 2: the first half of how I got here.
Speaker 2: So for those people that don't know what a
Speaker 2: naturopathic doctor does, could you maybe
Speaker 2: just level set for everyone?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there are.
Speaker 1: There are naturopaths and then there are
Speaker 1: naturopathic doctors or naturopathic
Speaker 1: physicians and the the differentiation
Speaker 1: between those two things, which I think is
Speaker 1: the first thing I want to kind of
Speaker 1: differentiate.
Speaker 1: Differentiate is that naturopathic medicine
Speaker 1: are it's only regulated licensed as a as a
Speaker 1: regulated profession in I think, 21 States
Speaker 1: I could be off on the number about 21
Speaker 1: States at the moment.
Speaker 1: So about half the country actually
Speaker 1: regulates us as a profession.
Speaker 1: The States that it's not regulated as a
Speaker 1: profession where we can call ourselves
Speaker 1: doctor.
Speaker 1: Anyone can call themselves a naturopathic
Speaker 1: doctor.
Speaker 1: They have a place, okay, so it's not an us
Speaker 1: and them thing.
Speaker 1: But it's important to differentiate
Speaker 1: depending on what you want to get out of it,
Speaker 1: right, because you know you don't want to.
Speaker 1: It's kind of misleading to go to someone
Speaker 1: who says they're a naturopathic doctor when
Speaker 1: they didn't necessarily they didn't go to
Speaker 1: medical school, Right?
Speaker 1: So naturopathic physician, they'll have ND
Speaker 1: after their name as long as they're
Speaker 1: regulated state.
Speaker 1: They can do that.
Speaker 1: In Arizona it's NMD naturopathic medical
Speaker 1: doctor, and it's because we went to.
Speaker 1: We go to an accredited medical school and
Speaker 1: it's we learn everything that MDs learn,
Speaker 1: everything from minor surgery to
Speaker 1: prescription medication, so we can
Speaker 1: prescribe medicine and all of that.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that we specialize in
Speaker 1: reversal of chronic disease and looking for
Speaker 1: the root cause of disease, not just
Speaker 1: matching drugs to symptoms.
Speaker 1: And so for me, I, ever since I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: always wanted to know why.
Speaker 1: Why, like, if something's happening, it's a
Speaker 1: problem to solve?
Speaker 1: I'm like why is that happening?
Speaker 1: So I've always had that curiosity and that
Speaker 1: investigative mind, and so it's a great fit
Speaker 1: that I get to solve problems like that all
Speaker 1: day and really get to the root cause, so
Speaker 1: and so that's kind of how naturopathic
Speaker 1: medicine is different from, you know, md,
Speaker 1: conventional, insurance-based medicine.
Speaker 2: No, that's great.
Speaker 2: So so I met you through our dear friend,
Speaker 2: ricky Passanelli, who we love and adore,
Speaker 2: and Ricky's been on the show before, and
Speaker 2: you and I also did a live together because
Speaker 2: I thought what you were doing was so
Speaker 2: freaking important.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm in my fifties.
Speaker 2: I've been technically post-menopausal for
Speaker 2: years, but I didn't really understand what
Speaker 2: that meant and I think the information out
Speaker 2: there that most people are fed is old and
Speaker 2: inaccurate, and you taught me a lot about
Speaker 2: what the real deal is and I was like I have
Speaker 2: to have you on my show.
Speaker 2: I have to do this for the other women and
Speaker 2: the men who love the women in their lives.
Speaker 2: This is really important that we understand
Speaker 2: this.
Speaker 2: And I want to stress by saying this is not
Speaker 2: bashing our Western doctors, this is not
Speaker 2: putting shade on them, but there is a real
Speaker 2: lack of information.
Speaker 2: There is in women's health in general.
Speaker 2: But why don't we just kind of start with I
Speaker 2: mean general, but why don't we just kind of
Speaker 2: start with I mean we call you the hormone
Speaker 2: boss?
Speaker 1: you call you the hormone boss.
Speaker 1: Why and what do people need to know about
Speaker 1: what's really going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting the time that
Speaker 1: we're in right now, because there's a huge
Speaker 1: kind of glut of information out there,
Speaker 1: because there's a clash happening, because
Speaker 1: we're we're in a big transition in our
Speaker 1: knowledge base.
Speaker 1: We're in a, uh, a paradigm shift right now,
Speaker 1: which is good, um, yes, it is good, uh, so,
Speaker 1: but it can feel there's tension, disruptive,
Speaker 1: yeah, yep, so, um, I think that really, uh,
Speaker 1: what's so important for, for what I want to
Speaker 1: kind of bring out to the world, is the fact
Speaker 1: that it's not just about HRT, right, like
Speaker 1: it's.
Speaker 1: There's so much knowledge, normal
Speaker 1: replacement therapy, yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: that's, like it's such a simplistic way to
Speaker 1: view things.
Speaker 1: There's a whole world of how women's bodies
Speaker 1: work, right, our physiology, our biology
Speaker 1: and it, our chemistry, right, and all of
Speaker 1: that is kind of being shoved aside in a way.
Speaker 1: And we know for decades for I don't know
Speaker 1: longer than that, forever women's like they
Speaker 1: go to the doctor or whatever, and they're
Speaker 1: told don't know longer than that, forever,
Speaker 1: women's like they go to the doctor or
Speaker 1: whatever, and they're told you know
Speaker 1: everything's normal, so it must all be in
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 1: This is just the change of life, or you're
Speaker 1: just getting older.
Speaker 1: You just have to put up with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think more and more women are
Speaker 1: kind of awakening to the fact that that
Speaker 1: really isn't good enough.
Speaker 2: No, it's really not.
Speaker 2: And if you are listening to this show and
Speaker 2: you are tired and you're not sleeping,
Speaker 2: you're dealing with hot flashes, or maybe
Speaker 2: you don't have hot flashes, but other
Speaker 2: things are going on.
Speaker 2: There's likely a hormonal imbalance of some
Speaker 2: kind, and this is one of the things that I
Speaker 2: learned through Iris imbalance of some kind,
Speaker 2: and this is one of the things that I
Speaker 2: learned through Iris.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think the knee jerk
Speaker 2: reaction is oh, she's the.
Speaker 2: The blood work says she's menopausal.
Speaker 2: Let's throw her on estrogen.
Speaker 2: She's lacking estrogen and it is a really
Speaker 2: uneducated stab in the dark.
Speaker 2: Um, that that's making I personally, I am
Speaker 2: not.
Speaker 2: I have plenty of estrogen.
Speaker 2: That's not my problem.
Speaker 2: I got other problems, um, and we discovered
Speaker 2: that.
Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about your
Speaker 2: process and and why it's it is so
Speaker 2: comprehensive.
Speaker 1: Yes, so the first thing is that what what
Speaker 1: we need to understand is that when we reach
Speaker 1: perimenopause and menopause, we arrive with
Speaker 1: a certain hormonal imbalance already, and
Speaker 1: that's what's not being addressed.
Speaker 1: And so it really is all about the
Speaker 1: pre-hormone system, how you're producing
Speaker 1: your hormones or not, and in what balance,
Speaker 1: and so we have to actually accurately
Speaker 1: assess where everything is and how your
Speaker 1: hormone production system is working.
Speaker 1: So to just jump to the end result and say
Speaker 1: you have too much of this or too little of
Speaker 1: this, and you know it, it it ignores the
Speaker 1: fact that.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 1: Why do you have too much of something or
Speaker 1: too little of something?
Speaker 1: And most women are just set, you know, told
Speaker 1: that well, it's because of menopause.
Speaker 1: They're deficient in a hormone because of
Speaker 1: menopause.
Speaker 1: But what about all the women For example,
Speaker 1: most of the women I test who are in
Speaker 1: perimenopause or menopause?
Speaker 1: They have hormone levels that are even
Speaker 1: lower than menopausal ranges.
Speaker 1: So why is that?
Speaker 1: Or why is a postmenopausal woman deficient
Speaker 1: for even menopausal ranges right?
Speaker 1: Why it's not because she's in more
Speaker 1: menopause than someone else.
Speaker 1: There's something else going on with her
Speaker 1: hormone system, and the real key is how
Speaker 1: women's stress response system is affecting
Speaker 1: their hormone production.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a piece I never understood.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think on the surface, people tend
Speaker 2: to wrap their head around menopause and
Speaker 2: it's all about your menstrual cycle and
Speaker 2: it's so much more than that.
Speaker 2: There's adrenal function, there's cortisol
Speaker 2: function, there's you know, I know, for me
Speaker 2: my cholesterol went through the roof, um,
Speaker 2: going through menopause and I hadn't
Speaker 2: changed my and I hadn't changed my diet and
Speaker 2: I hadn't changed my exercise and I eat real
Speaker 2: healthy, so there wasn't really a reason
Speaker 2: for that to happen.
Speaker 2: And when I said it, my doctor was like
Speaker 2: you're going to need to exercise more and I
Speaker 2: was like you're going to need to go you
Speaker 2: know what yourself, because I am not okay
Speaker 2: with that answer.
Speaker 2: I exercise a lot, so, yeah, I mean, there
Speaker 2: is so many pieces to this puzzle and so to
Speaker 2: isolate it to one thing is really a
Speaker 2: disservice.
Speaker 2: So let's just talk about how you work with
Speaker 2: your clients, because I know for me, I
Speaker 2: think most people expect that they're going
Speaker 2: to do blood work and that's not how you
Speaker 2: approach it.
Speaker 2: So talk about your process and why.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 1: So that is one of the things that is kind
Speaker 1: of outdated in that we're just looking at
Speaker 1: blood work and testing hormones in blood.
Speaker 1: So what's happening is we're testing the
Speaker 1: wrong things and in the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Because when you test hormones in blood,
Speaker 1: like the vast majority of doctors do,
Speaker 1: they're checking what is actually bound in
Speaker 1: blood, not the free circulating amount of
Speaker 1: bioavailable hormones.
Speaker 1: So I test via saliva there you can do urine
Speaker 1: as well and you're in that way you're able
Speaker 1: to test the full body amount of these
Speaker 1: hormones.
Speaker 1: That's number one.
Speaker 1: But number two is you have to test the
Speaker 1: right things.
Speaker 1: It's not just estrogen and LH and FSH to
Speaker 1: see are you in menopause or not.
Speaker 1: Every woman at every age deserves to know
Speaker 1: what all her hormones are doing, what her
Speaker 1: hormone production system is doing, whether
Speaker 1: it's working optimally and whether things
Speaker 1: are in the right balance.
Speaker 1: And so I think kind of it's it'd be helpful
Speaker 1: to just kind of set aside the menopause
Speaker 1: thing even and say like how healthy are my
Speaker 1: hormones just at any stage of life.
Speaker 1: And honestly, if you catch it before
Speaker 1: perimenopause, you're going to be so much
Speaker 1: happier getting through that, because, I
Speaker 1: mean, I've tested women all the way from 16
Speaker 1: on up and the person who I tested, who was
Speaker 1: 16, she was totally deficient in
Speaker 1: progesterone and normal estrogen.
Speaker 1: She was having panic attacks, and so this,
Speaker 1: these hormonal imbalances, can happen at
Speaker 1: any age, and it's all wrapped up in how
Speaker 1: your hormone production system is affected
Speaker 1: by your stress response.
Speaker 1: And so testing the right things in the
Speaker 1: right way means testing your pre-hormone
Speaker 1: system, so the hormones of your adrenal
Speaker 1: stress response, the hormones of your
Speaker 1: circadian rhythm, your sleep-wake cycle,
Speaker 1: because that's such a huge issue for most
Speaker 1: women.
Speaker 1: Rhythm, your sleep wake cycle, because
Speaker 1: that's such a huge issue for most women and
Speaker 1: your sex hormones.
Speaker 1: So estrogen, progesterone, testosterone,
Speaker 1: dhea and calculating the ratios.
Speaker 1: So it's all going to give you the full
Speaker 1: picture of exactly what's going on and how
Speaker 1: to make an impact at the root cause of why
Speaker 1: you have a hormonal deficiency or imbalance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the word you use, ratio,
Speaker 2: is really important, because the number in
Speaker 2: and of itself doesn't tell the full story.
Speaker 2: You have to look at it in relation to the
Speaker 2: other hormones.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I learned I was in adrenal
Speaker 2: fatigue.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know my adrenals were tired.
Speaker 2: So you know the way that I think.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I learned from you is
Speaker 2: that your body, it's not like the shop is
Speaker 2: closed Once you go through menopause.
Speaker 2: It's not like, oh, we're done now, we're
Speaker 2: not producing anything anymore, like you
Speaker 2: still can produce hormones.
Speaker 2: So can you just talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: that, because I think people really have a
Speaker 2: misconception about how this works.
Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest myth of all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, women think that once they've gone
Speaker 1: through menopause, they don't have any
Speaker 1: hormones anymore and that therefore, they
Speaker 1: have to replace what they don't have and
Speaker 1: they don't make anymore.
Speaker 1: And that's simply not true.
Speaker 1: Now you could be totally deficient in
Speaker 1: hormones.
Speaker 1: You're not making a hormone, but it's not
Speaker 1: because of menopause.
Speaker 1: You still should be making hormones during
Speaker 1: menopause.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that they're.
Speaker 1: They're lower.
Speaker 1: There may be down by about half of what
Speaker 1: they were potentially.
Speaker 1: Um, maybe a little bit less.
Speaker 1: Um, you know, maybe not quite half, but
Speaker 1: some just depends on the person.
Speaker 1: So menopause in and of itself is not where
Speaker 1: you just stop making hormones.
Speaker 1: If you stopped making hormones, it's not
Speaker 1: menopause, it's something else.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think that we still make
Speaker 1: hormones because we make hormones in other
Speaker 1: areas other than our ovaries.
Speaker 1: But even our ovaries still make a little
Speaker 1: bit of hormone.
Speaker 1: So it's just decreased, that's all.
Speaker 1: So I think that that is an important
Speaker 1: takeaway.
Speaker 1: Decrease, that's, that's all.
Speaker 1: So I think that that is an important
Speaker 1: takeaway.
Speaker 1: And, you know, I believe in, in kind of an
Speaker 1: elegant approach to, um, you know, hormone
Speaker 1: health, which is really looking at the
Speaker 1: individual, looking at the causes as to why
Speaker 1: hormones might not be in the optimal place
Speaker 1: or out of balance.
Speaker 1: Adjusting for that.
Speaker 1: And then if you want to have hormone levels
Speaker 1: of what you had in your, you know, twenties
Speaker 1: or thirties, that's fine, but not
Speaker 1: overdosing the way a lot of women are right
Speaker 1: now.
Speaker 1: If every woman is getting the same protocol,
Speaker 1: you're going to be overdosed on something
Speaker 1: and still not enough of another, and you
Speaker 1: know you're still going to have the
Speaker 1: symptoms, you're still going to have the
Speaker 1: risks.
Speaker 1: So that's, um I important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's this move like first
Speaker 2: of all back a few years ago, when they were
Speaker 2: like oh, hrt, you know, hormone replacement
Speaker 2: therapy causes cancer, and so everybody was
Speaker 2: like, whoa, we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2: And now they're like oh no, we're back,
Speaker 2: we're doing it and it's fine and it feels
Speaker 2: paradigm shift and it feels very stabbing
Speaker 2: in the dark and just knowing what I went
Speaker 2: through and how I was given copious amounts
Speaker 2: of estrogen, even though we're going to do
Speaker 2: low doses and there's going to be a patch
Speaker 2: and there's going to be this, and that it
Speaker 2: wasn't the right thing for me.
Speaker 2: And knowing what I know now, I don't know
Speaker 2: how many women are also being told this.
Speaker 2: So it was so important to me that I have
Speaker 2: you on the show because I want the women
Speaker 2: listening and the men who love them to
Speaker 2: really understand there's a much bigger
Speaker 2: story and we've done a huge disservice to
Speaker 2: the women in the world that we've really
Speaker 2: minimized how important this is to their
Speaker 2: health.
Speaker 2: And when you make these changes to your
Speaker 2: body with the right supplements and with
Speaker 2: the right topicals, you prolong your life,
Speaker 2: you slow down aging, you prevent cancer,
Speaker 2: your body's functioning on a better level,
Speaker 2: you can lose weight, you can sleep better,
Speaker 2: your stress response is better.
Speaker 2: There's such a domino effect of goodness
Speaker 2: when you're doing it right.
Speaker 2: And so what Iris didn't tell you is when we
Speaker 2: do the saliva test, you do one in the
Speaker 2: morning and then you do one at night so we
Speaker 2: can measure the cortisol, but then we
Speaker 2: repeat it three months later and and we're
Speaker 2: checking, we're making sure that the
Speaker 2: supplements that I'm taking are the right
Speaker 2: ones and that I'm responding to them.
Speaker 2: So we can change, we can modify if need be.
Speaker 2: So talk a little bit about the programs
Speaker 2: that you have and how people can work with
Speaker 2: you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my signature approach is a six-month
Speaker 1: long process, because I know that that's
Speaker 1: what it takes to reverse the root cause of
Speaker 1: your hormone production issue, and it does
Speaker 1: entail three sets of these tests, because
Speaker 1: we want to be precise, we want to be
Speaker 1: targeted.
Speaker 1: We want to be targeted, we want to be data
Speaker 1: driven, and so we do the initial test.
Speaker 1: You have a comprehensive, customized three
Speaker 1: month plan and then we retest and reassess
Speaker 1: symptoms at three months and we make
Speaker 1: adjustments to that plan and then in six
Speaker 1: months we do the same and also, through
Speaker 1: along the way, we make micro changes as
Speaker 1: needed to, because it's not just set it and
Speaker 1: forget it right, it's not just one and done
Speaker 1: kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: You don't just test hormones, give one
Speaker 1: prescription and then you're done.
Speaker 1: No, because our hormone production changes
Speaker 1: day to day, week to week, month to month,
Speaker 1: based on stress, based on lifestyle things
Speaker 1: and all these things.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it can be a bit of a moving
Speaker 1: target, and so we really do need to be
Speaker 1: checking and making sure that we're not
Speaker 1: just, you know, throwing something at the
Speaker 1: wall and seeing what sticks right.
Speaker 1: It's targeted, it's precise, it's
Speaker 1: individualized.
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Speaker 2: So, Iris, my friend, what inspires you?
Speaker 1: You know, the thing that inspires me the
Speaker 1: most is when I when I hear stories from
Speaker 1: clients and women I've worked with who have
Speaker 1: told me you know how how much things have
Speaker 1: changed for them, like I saved their
Speaker 1: marriage, or saved their life, or, um, how
Speaker 1: much better their life is because of
Speaker 1: working.
Speaker 1: It's very humbling, you know, um, and if it
Speaker 1: weren't for that cause, what I do is, you
Speaker 1: know, I run my own company and it's hard
Speaker 1: work, and there's a lot that could get in
Speaker 1: the way of me feeling like why am I doing
Speaker 1: this?
Speaker 1: Um, you know, I just wanted to help people.
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to make an impact and
Speaker 1: change the world.
Speaker 1: So, noticing those stories and taking them
Speaker 1: in and feeling like I am making a
Speaker 1: difference, I mean, that's the thing that
Speaker 1: keeps me going.
Speaker 2: I mean anytime a woman can tell you that
Speaker 2: they feel better, that they're sleeping
Speaker 2: better, that their brain fog is gone, that
Speaker 2: their belly weight is gone, like those are
Speaker 2: massive changes to a human being.
Speaker 2: So I applaud you for being the conduit to
Speaker 2: make all of that happen.
Speaker 2: That's got to feel really, really good.
Speaker 2: What would you like your legacy to be?
Speaker 2: Well, you know.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 1: I'm a mission driven business and I have a
Speaker 1: vision for the world, which is that that
Speaker 1: it's a more peaceful, sustainable you know
Speaker 1: a great place and I, and I feel that the
Speaker 1: way to do that is to have more women
Speaker 1: leaders.
Speaker 1: Oh, hell, yeah.
Speaker 1: So my legacy is that I want to make that
Speaker 1: impact and that I'm leveling the playing
Speaker 1: field for women leaders and helping them,
Speaker 1: because if stress is the number one kind of
Speaker 1: killer of hormones and it causes us to feel
Speaker 1: burnt out and that we can't be in those
Speaker 1: high, demanding roles and leadership roles
Speaker 1: and the demands of stress, because under
Speaker 1: stress, under pressure, and not get burnt
Speaker 1: out, Cause I know, you know there's,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of, um, high level women in
Speaker 1: C-suite executives, you know different, uh,
Speaker 1: women leaders that are maybe considering a
Speaker 1: career change or demoting themselves or
Speaker 1: early retirement or whatever, because they
Speaker 1: just can't take it anymore, Um, and so that
Speaker 1: is something very specific that I help with,
Speaker 1: and so I want to.
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's kind of my, my
Speaker 1: vision, and so I, I, I want to have that
Speaker 1: impact so that each woman can have her
Speaker 1: impact.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is a leadership
Speaker 2: podcast, so that is a great answer.
Speaker 2: So what is next for you?
Speaker 1: Well, I am just going, I'm going to be kind
Speaker 1: of, you know, goal planning for 2026 here
Speaker 1: this month, so I'm not quite sure you know
Speaker 1: what is on the agenda for next year.
Speaker 1: Um, but I'm always, you know, refining and
Speaker 1: improving.
Speaker 1: You know the experience that that that
Speaker 1: women have working with me, is it personal
Speaker 1: or professional.
Speaker 2: It's however you want to answer it.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that I really want to
Speaker 1: continue to evolve as a human and it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to separate me being a naturopathic
Speaker 1: physician and me being a hormone boss and
Speaker 1: being a you know you don't have to.
Speaker 2: yeah, it's like that's everything for me.
Speaker 1: That's who I am and and I.
Speaker 1: But I want to evolve kind of my how I show
Speaker 1: up in the world and just kind of be more
Speaker 1: and more myself and more confident and know
Speaker 1: that I deserve to exist and I deserve to be
Speaker 1: seen.
Speaker 2: You deserve to be in every room, and that
Speaker 2: was why it was so important for me to have
Speaker 2: you on the show.
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to do the live.
Speaker 2: I, like you, want to have a really big
Speaker 2: impact, and what you are helping women with
Speaker 2: is so major and the ripple effect of that
Speaker 2: is huge.
Speaker 2: So if we can use this platform to get the
Speaker 2: word out, I am thrilled to do it.
Speaker 2: So, uh, I'm happy to make you shine.
Speaker 2: Um, how can people find you?
Speaker 1: Um, they can find me at the hormone bosscom.
Speaker 1: It's hormone-bosscom is my website, and
Speaker 1: they can get directly um to even a free
Speaker 1: consultation and things like that.
Speaker 1: So there's lots of things to look at there.
Speaker 1: That's probably the best way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you want to talk about the way Iris
Speaker 2: works, reach out to me.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to tell you, and I have a number
Speaker 2: of friends that have worked with her and
Speaker 2: they've all had amazing experiences.
Speaker 2: So I'm very grateful to you for all you do
Speaker 2: for me and for all you do for all the other
Speaker 2: women in the world.
Speaker 2: So thank you, and thank you for being a
Speaker 2: wonderful guest.
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