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Hello and a warm welcome. I’m Eric O'Keefe from the kids’ podcast What

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If World, and I’m so glad you’re here. This is Part One of Big

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Emotions: Kids Listen MASHUPS about feelings.  In this series, we’ll

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be exploring those big feelings — because they can be powerful… and so

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can we! Emotions are useful, they are a source of information. They

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are our connection to the world. So let's get to know them better,

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invite them in, and create space to choose how we respond to them. We

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cannot control the wind, but we can adjust the sails. Today’s journey

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is all about Fear 🎶 and Bravery 🎶 - two powerful feelings that seem

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opposite but are actually deeply connected. Because we had so many

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amazing thoughts on these feelings to share, we decided to split this

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adventure into two episodes, so whether you’re in the car or in the

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classroom, be sure to tune back in for the second installment.   So -

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what does Fear & Bravery mean to me? Well, when I was a kid, I took

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karate - not to become the next Karate Kid, but because I had a bully.

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I practiced obsessively, imagining an epic showdown. But my teacher,

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Mr. McGlynn, saw right through me. He taught me something even more

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powerful than fighting: de-escalation. He showed me that sometimes the

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bravest thing to do is take a deep breath and slow down. Guess what? I

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never even had to face my bully; facing my fear quietly helped me grow

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beyond it. Fear can actually be helpful, warning us of danger or

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helping us get ready for big moments. But sometimes that alarm goes

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off for no reason, holding us back instead. Bravery doesn’t mean

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having no fear - it means feeling fear and still moving forward.

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Here’s something cool: facing fears makes them easier to handle, kind

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of like jumping into a cold pool. At first the water feels freezing,

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but then, you get used to it.  The more you face it, the less scary it

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becomes.The water doesn't change, but how you experience it does. This

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collaboration brings together our community of creators, each offering

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their own unique perspective on emotions. Through a morsel from each

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show, we introduce you to a new creative style. We hope you discover

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your new favourite podcast here! So for now, get comfy, settle in, and

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let’s dive into these incredible stories about fear and bravery.

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<Intro Music> Our first Kids Listen show to explore Fear and Bravery

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is Smash Boom Best - a debate show from the makers of Brains On! In

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each episode, two cool things go head-to-head, and listeners decide

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which is best. Along the way, the debaters use facts and heaps of

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passion to teach you how to defend your own opinions. For this Big

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Emotions Mash-Up, Smash Boom Best shared a clip that highlights the

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most thrilling and terrifying parts of Jack and the Beanstalk. You

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know the story! In this heartfelt moment, the narrator connects Jack’s

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fear and bravery to his own experiences growing up. Let’s listen.

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<Smash Boom Best clip> That was beautiful! Have you ever stopped to

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think about what emotions a story makes you feel? Jack and the

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Beanstalk is full of fear and courage, but what about other stories

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you love?  Next time a story moves you, pause for a moment. Close your

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eyes and notice how it makes you feel. Can you put those feelings into

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words? Just like Smash Boom Best teaches us to defend our opinions, we

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can also take time to understand our emotions and express them. Have

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you noticed how many words we use to describe different but related

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feelings? It's also interesting to notice that our feelings don't just

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flip on or off; they often come in different strengths or degrees.

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Fear is when something scary is happening right now, like when Jack

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faced the giant. If fear is really strong, we might feel terrified!

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Sometimes, we’re just nervous - a little uncomfortable because we

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don’t know what to expect. Other times, we feel anxious, which is a

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longer-lasting kind of fear about something that might happen. When

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we're anxious, our brains often ask, "What if something bad

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happens?"—something my What If World brain knows all too well! But

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just because we can imagine something doesn't mean it's true or

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likely. Next time your brain plays the "What if?" game, flip the

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script: "What if it doesn't? Or what if something good happens?! And

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even if something tough does happen, remember - you won’t go through

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it alone. You have people who care about you, and that makes all the

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difference. Up next, we have a heartfelt clip from Koala Moon, a

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podcast that helps families unwind with gentle, comforting bedtime

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stories. This episode, Isla and the Bravery Dragon, was inspired by a

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real listener who donated her own beloved "bravery dragon" - a soft,

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cuddly toy that gave courage to anyone who held it, helping them to

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overcome their fears.  Settle in and listen to Koala Moon, with “Isla

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and the Bravery Dragon.”  <Koala Moon Clip> What a beautiful story and

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act of kindness. We’ve all felt fear like that before, and sometimes,

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just hearing a few encouraging words from a friend can make all the

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difference. But being the one who offers support can feel just as

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rewarding. Isn’t it amazing how emotions connect us? Our feelings

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don’t just shape our own experiences - they help us understand and

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support the people around us, too. A thought can spark a feeling, and

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a feeling can lead to a thought. They dance together, helping us

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understand who we are and what matters to us. When we pay attention,

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we can start to learn about ourselves - what makes us happy, what

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worries us, and what we care about most. By noticing how our thoughts

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can shape our feelings, we can grow, also becoming more understanding

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of other people’s emotions.  Next up, we have a clip from What’s

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Poppin, Penny? - a show about Penny, a little girl growing up in a

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warm, multigenerational home, along with her magical teddy bear, T.A.,

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and her wise, talking cat, Penelepaw. Have you ever felt scared and

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found comfort in talking to someone? I bet a name popped into your

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head just now.Consider letting them know, when you see them next, how

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much their understanding helps. In this clip, Penny confides in T.A.

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after watching a spooky movie that left her feeling anxious. Let’s

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listen to What’s Poppin, Penny? and hear Penny’s story of courage and

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comfort.  <What’s Poppin Penny Clip> Big exhale Ahhh. Those calming

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tricks from T.A. were pretty great! I might try them next time I get

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the butterflies or feel a little scared. Penny showed us something

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really important - talking to a trusted friend or adult about our

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feelings can make a big difference. What do you think? Have you ever

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felt better after sharing how you feel? Feelings are like smells -

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some are sweet, others are stinky, but none of them are “bad” or

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“wrong.” They just are. They're all trying to tell us something. It’s

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okay to feel however we feel. What matters most is how we choose to

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react. Fear and bravery are powerful emotions. We can feel them in

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ourselves, sense them in others, and even when we’re not paying full

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attention, they have a way of making themselves known. Sometimes, they

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can feel overwhelming. We’ve already heard how sharing our emotions

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with someone can be a big help. Bringing someone in - not just to

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support us, but to experience those feelings alongside us - can turn a

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difficult moment into a special connection. Have you ever gone through

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something scary with a friend or family member? Facing a challenge

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together can create a bond that lasts. And it’s not just humans who

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sense emotions. Have you ever shared a special connection with an

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animal? I know I have. Somehow, animals always seem to find us when we

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need them most. We’ll actually be exploring the idea of how our furry

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friends can help us in Part two, so stay tuned. <Outro music> Keep

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this idea of fear and bravery in your thoughts over the next few days.

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Maybe you'll notice a time when you feel a little scared, and then

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you'll also discover your own strength to act anyway. Take a gentle

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breath right now and really notice how these feelings sit with you.

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We’ve explored a lot about fear and bravery in this first part.

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Remember, bravery isn’t just about big, bold moments — it shows up in

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everyday choices, like speaking up, trying something new, or facing

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something that feels hard. We’ll be right here, ready to continue

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exploring this with Part 2 on Thursday! Before you go, stick around

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after the credits for a very special question! We hope it sparks a

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great conversation with someone you love. Thanks so much for listening

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and being part of this special Kids Listen Mash-Up. Until next time,

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stay curious, stay kind, and remember — big emotions aren’t something

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to fear, they’re something to feel. See you soon! <CREDITS> This

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episode has been a Kids Listen collaboration, created by Tal Kelly,

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Jenna Clarke and Dr. Eileen Kennedy-Moore. Hosted by me, Eric O’Keefe.

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This “Big Emotions: Kids Listen MASHUPS about feelings” is produced by

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Tal Kelly  Executive Writer, Jenna Clarke, Content Director at

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Sleepiest & Koala Kids.  In consultation with Eileen Kennedy-Moore,

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PhD., an author and clinical psychologist based in Princeton, NJ  Our

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intro music was created and generously provided by the wonderful Dan

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Saks of Noodle Loaf. You can find full music credits in the show

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notes.  A special thanks goes out to all of our contributors  We

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placed links to our featured podcasts in this episode’s show notes.

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If you'd like to share your artwork, another powerful way to express

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emotions is through art. Email a photo to kidslistenmashups@gmail.com,

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and we'll proudly share it on social media.  Educators interested in

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applying this as an SEL resource in their classroom can find a PDF

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guide in the show notes. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us

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a nice review or share the show with someone you love. Thanks for

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tuning in to your emotions as well as our mash-up! <QUESTION> Now for

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our question…. Think back to a time when you had to do something new -

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maybe the first time you rode a bike, jumped into the deep end, or

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spoke in front of a group. What helped you push through those first,

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scary, I’m-not-sure-what-I’m-doing moments? If this question got you

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thinking, let us know in the Spotify comments or in a review - we’d

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love to hear how it made you feel! And if you have your own thoughts

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or questions about this topic, our very own Dr Friendtastic will be

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joining the conversation in the Spotify comments too!
