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Because, Patreon, every time you get, like,

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a new subscriber sends you a mail,

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if you have the option set up right now,

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I have it removed.

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But back then I had

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it set up and I was just like,

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getting mail after mail after mail of like, oh,

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you got a new subscriber,

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you got a new subscriber,

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you got a new subscriber. And basically

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I went from like $80 to, like, 800, I think.

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So hold on.

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This is a critical mass moment.

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Yeah, yeah, it blew up.

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Welcome to Nerdpreneur,

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where we have fun conversations with people

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making money with their nerdy passion.

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My name is Chris, and as always,

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I am joined by my co host, Frank.

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Hello.

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And today we have a very special guest,

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and his name is Evan,

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but he's much better known online

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and in the D&D universe as MonkeyDM.

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Welcome to the show.

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Hello. Nice to meet you all.

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Thanks for coming on.

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I've been super excited to talk to you

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because when I was thinking of people

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for this podcast that would be kind of like,

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perfect guests for this type of show,

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you were right near the top of my list as

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far as a Nerdpreneur. And so, Evan, MonkeyDM,

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what is your nerdy passion?

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I'll let you guess, but yeah, D&D.

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I do a lot of that.

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A lot of D&D. That's true. I mean,

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you make tons of D&D content,

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and it sounds like you have

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kind of carved out a little niche

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within the dungeons and Dragons universe.

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How did you find this nerdy passion for D&D?

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So actually role playing games,

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I didn't start with D&D. I started.

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So I was born in France and moved to Romania.

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I met friends who were like,

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I've always been into nerdy stuff. Like,

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I was a big halo fan

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played a ton of that in high school,

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probably way more than my mother

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would have wanted, but, you know. And anyway,

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so I met some friends,

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and they introduced me to the

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thing called Donjon de Naalbek, which is, like,

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nalbeck's dungeon.

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I think it's a very french thing,

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but it's basically D and D, but, like,

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looney tuned version.

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It's, like, very, like, comedy oriented.

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The races are very,

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very dumb and not serious. Like, they're, like,

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all the stereotypes

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that you can find about, like, ogres

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and goblins and gremlins and whatever you want.

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It was a blast. It was hilarious. I had,

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and that was maybe 15 years ago,

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so that's how I started.

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We had a campaign on this, surprisingly,

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that lasted about two years.

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I moved to Romania,

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and then in Romania,

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I somehow ended up with another friend of mine

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who I used to play that game with came with me.

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We had, like, our little table,

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and at some point, we had, like, a one year,

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two years hiatus.

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We're all focusing on our studies.

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I'm bored because I.

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So I didn't have any consoles.

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I didn't have any anything in my.

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and my laptop could

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not run a game for the life of it. Like,

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I'm probably even playing

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Tetris on it would crash it.

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I've upgraded the hardware since.

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Let's just say that.

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So I was like, you know what?

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I had a lot of fun back then with, like,

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this tabletop game,

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and that's how I discovered D&D.

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I was just, like, looking some, like,

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easy game that I could get into. It

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was towards the beginning of five e, and so we.

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I was the dungeon

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master for a while. Like, we played, like,

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weekly every week for maybe,

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I don't know, like, two, three years,

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something like that. Then there was, like,

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another year break where I didn't touch it,

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and then somehow, randomly,

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YouTube knew what I wanted,

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and it showed me critical role,

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and I was like, hmm,

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that seems interesting.

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and I'm like, oh, they're good.

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they're talented, right?

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So I listened to, like, critical role,

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and I'm like, damn, okay,

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now I want to play d and d again, right?

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It's like, the itch. It's like, oh, my God,

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it's coming back.

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And so I look up on. I don't

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know if it was Google, Facebook, whatever.

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I'm looking for, like,

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basically a place where, like,

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people gather to play board games.

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That was the idea. Right.

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And I found one which was, like,

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really not far away from my place.

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start playing d and d again,

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having a ton of fun again, then, like,

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met some new friends,

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and then, like, basically, like,

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a whole new d and d group that reformed.

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And it's been on since then? Pretty much.

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I guess I should segue into, like,

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how I transitioned to

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the whole Patreon thing at some point.

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Absolutely.

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That's where I was gonna go. Like,

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how did this then become a business

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from once you created this group together?

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you were able to create a weekly

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D and D group for two years. That's, like,

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already a difficult

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thing for people to have going on.

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Just playing regularly is an accomplishment.

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Yeah, I would agree with that one. So, like,

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the advantage

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was that we were younger, so, like,

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less responsibilities,

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less stuff in life,

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so it was easier to schedule.

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had school together,

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and we would just, like,

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gather at the end of, like,

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one of the school days to someone's place.

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you guys have a regular day that

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you actually played every single week?

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in the schedule every week,

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or did that shift at all?

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Usually we played on Wednesdays. Right.

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I was the DM, but sometimes,

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because the players really

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enjoyed the campaign, they're like, hey, man,

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how do you feel

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about we do another game tomorrow?

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Nice. I love. I miss those days, man.

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I remember what that felt like.

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Do you still do that?

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Sometimes? Sometimes it's more rare now.

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That's okay. Well, that's great.

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That still happens. For me,

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it's just like, nope, next week. Like, guys,

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I'm too busy.

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I can't do any other night this week.

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You're just gonna have to wait till next week.

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Yeah. Becoming an idol, basically.

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you had been a dungeon master,

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or did you start off right

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off the bat being a dungeon master?

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No, I started as a player in the

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other game for about a year,

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and then I transitioned to being

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a dungeon master in that game

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and then transitioned again in DND,

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and then I was mostly a player,

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and then I switched to being mostly a DM,

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and now it's both. I would say, okay,

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I'm one of those lucky DM's that

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gets to be a player every now and then.

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That's good.

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Great thing. Yeah,

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because it doesn't happen that often,

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especially if you're good at it.

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But I think being a player is so much fun.

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It's just so much fun to mess around and screw

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someone else's campaign instead of your own.

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Oh, God. I do find sometimes people

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are a little intimidated about, you know,

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if you're a good DM, they're like, oh,

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I don't feel like I could

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measure up to that person. And, and, you know,

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I feel like it's just best if

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they just keep doing it and

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they're scared to step into those shoes.

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Yeah, fair enough. To be fair, none of

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us is like Matthew Mercer or anything. So, I

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mean, sure, there's, there's definitely, like,

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people are better at dming than others

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because there's more experience. You know,

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they've done it for longer.

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I don't feel like in our group,

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we definitely have, like, I would say,

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like three people who, like,

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alternate the DM mental. So, like,

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basically everybody gets to be a

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player and everybody has their dming style.

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That's a kind of cool.

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from mostly the beginning, I would say,

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I don't think there was ever that block.

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So we got lucky on that point.

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Nice.

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Why do you love dungeons and dragons?

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I can cast fireball

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on the people that annoy me.

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I saw that.

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I saw that mentioned in

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one of your recent YouTube videos.

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Actually, I'm having a feud

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with my neighbor at the moment.

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I too have had that.

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We can all if apartment living, right?

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We actually go to the gym with the guy.

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So we're actually very cool.

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But it was just like a funny

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coincidence because he knows I

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go to bed early and he doesn't. And once, yeah,

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he just vacuumed when I was, like,

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trying to sleep.

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He doesn't have a very quiet vacuum,

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let's just say.

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So I made a. I just,

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I just had fun with it. Like,

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I posted a poll on my instagram, right?

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so my neighbor last

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night woke me up with his vacuum.

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Should I do the same this morning?

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And it was like 430 in the morning,

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right when I wake up and, like,

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turns out everybody's an asshole because, like,

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everybody voted yes.

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I think the poll was like 90% yes.

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So I was like, well,

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guess I'm turning on the vacuum.

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Yeah. And then, well, then

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you have plausible deniability.

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I had to do it.

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All my fans said I had to do it.

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This is for content, man.

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And funny enough, actually,

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the neighbor didn't hear it. Like,

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I talked to them at the gym. I was like, hey,

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do you hear something this morning?

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I was like, nah, nothing.

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I was like, oh, interesting.

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Dang it.

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Going back to the question Chris asked around,

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what is it that you love about D and D?

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It's that ability to kind of escape that I'm

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hearing and just kind of tap into something

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that we don't really get to do in the.

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So there's definitely that, like,

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for sure, because, like,

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you get to be characters

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that you can be in real life, right?

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You get to be, like,

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this epic hero that

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can do so many things, which, in real life,

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you just never could. So that's. That's

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a very cool aspect of it. And I think, like,

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a very big aspect,

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at least for me, is, like,

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the whole social aspect,

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because I love playing in person,

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because we're hanging out with friends, right.

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And it's like this collective story that's.

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That's the basis of D and D. You know,

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you have laughs and cries,

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and it's like this very

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real story that it's like a movie,

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but everybody's living through it, and it's.

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It's. I think that's what makes DND amazing,

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is just this ability to, like,

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gather people together and make them

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live this collective experience, which, like,

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you all, like,

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you remember it that

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I don't want to swear on the podcast,

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but you remember that stuff, like,

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five years later.

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Yeah, we can swear if you want.

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That's totally fine.

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But if you don't want to swear,

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you don't have to.

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Okay, then I will probably a little bit.

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Try not to do it too much.

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In any language you want. It's all good.

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The explicit sticker is universal.

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We haven't had any french swearing yet, so

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if you want to go hard into the french swear,

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we could totally do that.

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Yeah. I'll give you

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a common one in French, which means. Which

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is actually very specific. It means, like,

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someone who gets

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fucked in the ass. Like, it's like, okay, yeah.

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The only one I know is merried. That's.

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That's the only one I know.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's basically right.

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Yeah.

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I'm in Quebec and Canada, they always, like,

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use the religious ones,

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like tabata neck and that kind of thing.

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Yeah, yeah, I've heard that one.

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I find it very funny because, like, for me,

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it's just like a church equipment and.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's just like, I would go, like,

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phone or pen or. Yeah, it's.

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It's up there with sacred blue,

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you know? Sacred blue. You know,

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it's a blue of the flag.

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Yeah, it's like, I feel like

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it's like this to foreigners. Yes, because

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they don't understand the language. Like,

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I definitely felt

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that when I came to Romania, for example,

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because Romanian is not

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like the language I grew up with.

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I learned it and I speak it now just fine. But

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when I say an insult in Romanian, for example,

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I don't feel it as much as

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if I would say an insult in French.

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And I think it's because I didn't, like,

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grow up with the taboo of the word,

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so I don't integrate it as much. Right, right.

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So there's, like,

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words that I would just, like.

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I'm not gonna say them because they're like,

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really bad word in Romanian.

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Okay.

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They have, like, expression like,

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I'm gonna go and have

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sex with your grandmother's grave. Like, it's.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, they're favorite. I would

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say these things and I don't, you know, like,

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now I kind of do, but, like,

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I wouldn't get, like the, you know,

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like always it so bad.

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Say something like that. Right.

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And I would just, like,

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say it in front of other

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romanian people and you would see, like,

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the reaction they, like,

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noticeably bothered. Right.

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And I'm just not, because

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I don't get why it's so bothersome to them.

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When you grew up with the

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taboo and when you didn't, and that's, like,

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where the difference lies.

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I have a couple friends that was,

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it wasn't Romania.

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Gosh.

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It was a country over

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there that starts with an Lithuania.

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Lithuania, I think.

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So a couple friends that were from there.

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And they used to explain to me how

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just the swearing over there was a

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different level because their modern

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history was so much more intense, you know,

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what they had been through.

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I mean, Europe,

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everybody in Europe was

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a slave basically until, like, 1700, something

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like that. Like, Romania especially, like,

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Romanian's history is, like,

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amazing because it's.

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They lost every war, right. So it's like, oh,

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the Hungarian were

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like their masters at some point,

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and then you had the Russians at some point,

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and then it's just like, it's, it's.

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Yeah, well, and even right now,

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you guys are in a,

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you're so much closer to what's going

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on in the world right now with Ukraine.

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And it's crazy. Like, that's. I was, I know.

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You even posted just about

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something to do with the ukrainian

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family just yesterday or this morning.

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Yeah, I'll give some context on that for some,

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if people are interested.

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So Romania

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shares a border with Ukraine. We have, like.

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So basically you've got Romania here,

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Ukraine is here. And you've got, like, Moldova,

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which is like a very small country in between.

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Moldova basically has no military power.

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So if somebody were to come to Moldova,

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they would probably conquer it. So, like,

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and we share, like,

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a bit of it is, like,

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directly linked to Ukraine.

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So at the beginning, when

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the war started with Ukraine, we're like, okay,

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that's going to come to Romania.

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But we had hope because we were like,

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we're in NATO, so maybe not.

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Like, it was like, you know, at

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the beginning was very chaotic.

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We really had no idea.

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So it turns out Romania is going to be fine.

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So that's good,

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at least for romanian people.

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But we had a lot of

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Ukrainians go through the border,

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so the romanian government

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didn't do much for them. Like,

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they help organize a bit,

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like the transport

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system to help the refugees, like,

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get to other countries, for example.

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But romanian people, though, are, bless them,

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they are like, they set up, like, food camps.

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They set up whole support systems

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to help the refugees gather everybody.

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It was an incredible movement from everybody.

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I have a lot of friends that I know that went

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to the border just to set up food camps,

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helping the hostels there.

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So it was truly amazing

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that really people came together.

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So basically I have a very good friend,

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and their family hosted, like,

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an ukrainian family that passed through

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the border and their car crashed. Not crashed,

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but broke out.

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I'm not very good with cars.

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The alternators out.

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Overheated. I don't know exactly what,

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but basically the car was, like, fried.

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And so it was like two parents,

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their two daughters,

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and they needed a place to crash because

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otherwise they would sleep in the car.

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And here in Romania,

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it's like minus three degrees in fahrenheit. I

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have no idea how many it is, but it's Celsius.

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Celsius. I get that. Only

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Frank will be translation.

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Oh, please. I live

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in Canada for ten years. I'm fine.

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So, yeah, it's freezing temperatures, right?

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It's like, it's

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below freezing temperatures and they. So.

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And it's like this, like,

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four and seven year old daughter,

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and so it's like, very, very

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young child and their parents. And, like, it's.

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It's like a crazy story

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because both the parents are deafendae,

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so they don't hear anything.

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They speak sign language, and they have, like,

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the mother had an auditory apparatus,

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so she could, like, understand word,

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but she only spoke Ukrainian. So, like,

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the reason they managed to

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get out of the country, because normally, like,

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men are not allowed

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to leave Ukraine at the moment.

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Like, there's a martial law, basically,

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that's in place. So, like, any man from, like,

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age to 18 to 60, I believe,

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has to stay and fight. Like,

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they're not allowed to leave.

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They have to stay behind. So that's why, like,

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it's mostly women and children

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that you see across the border,

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because the men stay behind and fight,

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even if they don't want to, they have to.

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So this father,

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in his unluckiness of being deaf, had

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at least the luck of being able to cross the

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border because he's not military fit, right?

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So he can't, like, fight.

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So he managed to cross with his

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family and make it through the border.

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Their car fries so this

510
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is a family that left everything behind.

511
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They have nothing left. They. So, like,

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the reason they left is because

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basically their house were getting bombed.

514
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They were not hearing that right.

515
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The kids were, like,

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four and seven year old daughters,

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and they were terrified of it.

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They had no idea what was going on,

519
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so they had to leave, right?

520
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And they couldn't stay behind.

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So they just, like, abandoned everything.

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Their job, their house, like, their apartment,

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which I believe they bought.

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They bought, like, everything.

525
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They're just restarting from zero,

526
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and they're trying to make it to Germany,

527
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because in Germany, they have, like,

528
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they said they were going to

529
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help the refugees as much as they can,

530
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provide housing and all that stuff.

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There are car crashes

532
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in the city of my friend's house.

533
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So they hear about this,

534
00:16:58,210 --> 00:16:58,850
and they're like, yeah, sure,

535
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come to our place, no problem.

536
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So they host them.

537
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I actually went and met the family,

538
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and they were very, very sweet, very nice.

539
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We talked with Google translate.

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God bless technology,

541
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because that could not happen.

542
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:13,280
It was impossible

543
00:17:13,329 --> 00:17:17,069
to talk otherwise. And so, like, we met.

544
00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:18,099
I wanted to introduce

545
00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:19,420
them to D and D, actually, funnily enough,

546
00:17:19,450 --> 00:17:20,660
but they were the jungle.

547
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,710
It was tough to explain. Of course,

548
00:17:23,819 --> 00:17:25,089
the game about storytelling where

549
00:17:25,099 --> 00:17:26,740
you can't talk is a bit tough, right?

550
00:17:26,810 --> 00:17:28,700
Yeah, it's hard to explain D and d when

551
00:17:28,730 --> 00:17:30,700
you speak the language to people, right?

552
00:17:30,810 --> 00:17:32,220
Yeah, yeah. Right. So.

553
00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:34,500
But I did get them, like, because they left,

554
00:17:34,550 --> 00:17:35,120
and they didn't

555
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,750
have much toys with them. They had, like,

556
00:17:36,780 --> 00:17:39,230
a little thing. But I. So I bought them, like,

557
00:17:39,260 --> 00:17:40,410
a couple of barbies and.

558
00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:42,300
And I brought that to the kids, and they were.

559
00:17:42,330 --> 00:17:43,650
I think they were happy with them.

560
00:17:43,780 --> 00:17:44,890
They definitely smiled, and they.

561
00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:45,850
I saw them playing with it,

562
00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:47,200
so I assumed liked it.

563
00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:48,830
We took them to the park. You know,

564
00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,530
I bought them, like,

565
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,750
barbara Papa. It's like, you know,

566
00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,760
like this pink fluffy thing. It's like sugar,

567
00:17:53,790 --> 00:17:54,720
and they just cotton candy.

568
00:17:54,770 --> 00:17:56,460
Oh, cotton candy. That's why.

569
00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:57,160
Yeah.

570
00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:59,300
And it was so cute. Like, it was, like,

571
00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:00,180
bigger than their head.

572
00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:00,610
Yeah.

573
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,920
They were just, like, adorable, like,

574
00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:04,520
solving a little thing, right. And so, like,

575
00:18:04,610 --> 00:18:06,280
it really felt nice because we're, like, truly

576
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:08,120
helping these people, right? And so, like,

577
00:18:08,820 --> 00:18:09,520
we helped them.

578
00:18:09,550 --> 00:18:12,000
We got their car set back on and.

579
00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:13,780
And put them back on their way,

580
00:18:13,810 --> 00:18:14,620
and now they're in Germany.

581
00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:15,360
They found a house,

582
00:18:15,410 --> 00:18:16,090
and they're doing well.

583
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:17,660
They sent us a picture with the kids.

584
00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:18,750
Everybody's doing fine,

585
00:18:18,790 --> 00:18:19,630
and we're very happy.

586
00:18:19,670 --> 00:18:21,930
And so the message that I posted on Instagram

587
00:18:22,510 --> 00:18:26,230
was because this family, like, the mother,

588
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:27,190
her sister,

589
00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:29,200
crossed the border with her son,

590
00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:30,300
who was ten years old.

591
00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:31,440
The father stayed behind,

592
00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:32,290
from what I understood,

593
00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:33,240
couldn't leave the country.

594
00:18:33,330 --> 00:18:35,310
And they basically were in Germany in a camp.

595
00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:36,860
And I'm not sure about this,

596
00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:37,740
so don't quote me on this,

597
00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:38,770
but from I understood,

598
00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:41,230
the refugee camps are basically, like,

599
00:18:41,260 --> 00:18:42,160
military camps, right?

600
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:43,880
So it's like, tents. They have, like,

601
00:18:43,910 --> 00:18:45,140
maybe a little mattress to sleep on,

602
00:18:45,150 --> 00:18:45,740
but it's not, like,

603
00:18:45,790 --> 00:18:46,960
exactly ideal conditions

604
00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:49,600
to raise a child, maybe. And, you know,

605
00:18:49,790 --> 00:18:51,150
for a mother and her child,

606
00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:52,530
I don't think it's the best.

607
00:18:52,690 --> 00:18:55,250
And so she told her sister about it,

608
00:18:55,290 --> 00:18:56,380
and she let us know.

609
00:18:56,430 --> 00:18:58,390
And so I was like, well, I have, like,

610
00:18:58,420 --> 00:18:59,990
a bit of a following on Instagram.

611
00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:00,900
You know, maybe

612
00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:01,850
I can try to find

613
00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:04,260
someone who would agree to help. Right?

614
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:06,260
And we did. So now, like,

615
00:19:06,290 --> 00:19:07,380
this family set up, they've

616
00:19:07,410 --> 00:19:09,660
got a home that took damn and everything.

617
00:19:09,730 --> 00:19:10,690
So it's amazing.

618
00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:13,170
I couldn't be happier about it for them. Yeah.

619
00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:14,250
So it's like,

620
00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,170
we definitely feel the war a bit more,

621
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,010
I would say.

622
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,270
Yeah. I mean, over here in North America,

623
00:19:19,310 --> 00:19:21,920
we don't deal with actually having. Well,

624
00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:23,830
we choose not to, I should say.

625
00:19:23,910 --> 00:19:26,460
We choose not to deal with that as much

626
00:19:26,530 --> 00:19:28,580
on our day to day, you know, helping strangers.

627
00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:29,960
The times I've been to Europe,

628
00:19:30,090 --> 00:19:32,010
the number of times people have welcomed

629
00:19:32,060 --> 00:19:34,330
me into their homes and just been like, hey,

630
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:35,530
you're a tourist. Like,

631
00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:36,580
and you're by yourself.

632
00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:37,770
Would you like a meal?

633
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,240
And.

634
00:19:38,290 --> 00:19:38,920
And you don't

635
00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:41,220
feel the sense of, oh, my gosh, they could.

636
00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:42,960
They could try to drug me. Like,

637
00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:44,630
there isn't that. That we. That's

638
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,400
the kind of fear that we might have over here,

639
00:19:46,450 --> 00:19:47,950
but over there was just. Yeah,

640
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,140
that's so kind. You know, there's much

641
00:19:50,180 --> 00:19:52,960
more of that in the european culture, perhaps.

642
00:19:53,050 --> 00:19:54,110
Yeah, that, like,

643
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,370
I went to America briefly for, like, a week,

644
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,730
so I'm not that familiar with american culture.

645
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,120
I'm very familiar with, like,

646
00:20:00,230 --> 00:20:01,530
eastern european culture,

647
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,150
and I would central

648
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,880
european friends, but, yeah, I'm american.

649
00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:06,450
I'm nothing that familiar with.

650
00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:08,300
Well, I think it's interesting that you

651
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:11,520
were able to use your spread, right? Like,

652
00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:13,750
you have a fairly sizable instagram, right.

653
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,950
And it is fairly international. And, like,

654
00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:18,070
how cool is it that just because

655
00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:20,400
you have this nerdy passion that was

656
00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:22,380
able to build into a business and really

657
00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:24,590
build up to a significant following,

658
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,960
that you were able to use that not

659
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:27,540
just for making money and not for that,

660
00:20:27,550 --> 00:20:28,670
but also to do good

661
00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,180
and spread good stuff into the world.

662
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:32,080
And that's just

663
00:20:32,110 --> 00:20:33,390
a really cool thing about technology.

664
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,650
It's a really thing about

665
00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:36,440
the world we live in right now.

666
00:20:36,590 --> 00:20:37,750
The fact that we can actually

667
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,060
make a difference in some way,

668
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:40,990
even though it's maybe small or

669
00:20:41,020 --> 00:20:43,120
maybe have a little bit of impact,

670
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:45,190
I think that is a really

671
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,200
cool thing that the Internet has brought,

672
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:49,640
is that these senses of community that you get

673
00:20:49,670 --> 00:20:51,840
to create become meaningful and have impact

674
00:20:51,910 --> 00:20:53,820
outside of just the niche that you're in.

675
00:20:53,910 --> 00:20:55,740
Yeah, for sure. I definitely felt it

676
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:57,240
that day because

677
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:58,990
I had multiple people text me like, hey,

678
00:20:59,070 --> 00:21:01,410
I can try to help and stuff. And thank

679
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,040
you to everyone that came forward, by the way,

680
00:21:03,050 --> 00:21:04,360
if you listen to this. And, like,

681
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:05,450
one person was just like, yeah,

682
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,530
I can go pick him up.

683
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,160
It's all right. I got, like,

684
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:09,780
my wife and my two kids,

685
00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:11,680
and we can host them as well. And I was like,

686
00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:15,600
that would be amazing. Like, wow. Fantastic.

687
00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:20,530
Wow. Yeah, I love that story. I mean,

688
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,000
it's so heartwarming and especially.

689
00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:25,070
Yeah, it's like, it's in all the

690
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,880
craziness of the world

691
00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:27,240
where you feel like everything's going, like,

692
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:28,960
too trash and. But no, people

693
00:21:29,010 --> 00:21:31,140
are actually good most of the time, I think.

694
00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:34,220
And it really showcases that, I think.

695
00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,270
Yeah, I really think that is, like, I mean,

696
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,220
so many people. I don't know.

697
00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:39,920
I used to work in sales,

698
00:21:39,970 --> 00:21:42,000
and so you always dealt with the public,

699
00:21:42,090 --> 00:21:44,480
and when you're in front of people over

700
00:21:44,510 --> 00:21:46,320
and over and over again and they have no

701
00:21:46,370 --> 00:21:49,000
reason to help or no reason to do that,

702
00:21:49,030 --> 00:21:50,240
but they still do,

703
00:21:50,660 --> 00:21:53,220
you start to realize that so many

704
00:21:53,260 --> 00:21:55,420
people out there are just good people,

705
00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:57,560
and the vast majority of people are,

706
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:58,860
and there really are just

707
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,840
a few assholes in the world,

708
00:22:00,890 --> 00:22:02,840
and they move around a lot, you know, like,

709
00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:04,240
you run into them,

710
00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:05,680
but it's just like,

711
00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:06,360
there are not

712
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:08,880
that many people that are, like, minority.

713
00:22:08,930 --> 00:22:10,170
Like, usually, like, it's just like,

714
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,270
on Reddit or any,

715
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,330
any social platform for that matter, is like,

716
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,210
if you it's just like, it's like, people

717
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,120
who hate who are the loudest for some reason,

718
00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:20,080
I don't think, to prove, I guess. I'm not sure,

719
00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:21,140
but I agree.

720
00:22:21,180 --> 00:22:23,010
I think most people are extremely good,

721
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,850
and I think this was, like,

722
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,240
a truly good example of that. Like,

723
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:27,090
most people were like, hey, you know, like, I

724
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:28,780
even got people who are like, yeah, dude. Like,

725
00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:30,540
that's why I posted the story that

726
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,160
we found them at home, because I got, like,

727
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,510
messages from people that were like, hey,

728
00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:36,020
did you manage to find them a home?

729
00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:37,170
Like, did. Are they okay? Like,

730
00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:38,580
I want to know. You know, like,

731
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:39,200
I really think

732
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,810
most people are good. I really, really do.

733
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:41,240
Yeah.

734
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,670
And that was at least

735
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:44,630
a very good example of that, I would say.

736
00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:47,140
Yeah, I think this is a great way to transition

737
00:22:47,210 --> 00:22:50,230
into more of your business side of what you do,

738
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,610
because we haven't even really touched on that.

739
00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:54,120
I love the discussion we're having,

740
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,620
but I want to ask you, like,

741
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,690
when did the start of, say,

742
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,950
you making this into an

743
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,740
instagram and turning this into

744
00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,890
a business and started posting content?

745
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,310
How did that transition really

746
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:05,610
happen from you just playing

747
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,440
dungeons and dragons with your friends?

748
00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:10,490
So I'll give you the story on this one.

749
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,830
So I was a medical student,

750
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,900
so I started medicine.

751
00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:16,760
I finished my.

752
00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:17,970
I don't know if you can see, like,

753
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,090
I still have my medical books right here.

754
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,000
Oh, wow.

755
00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:22,680
Yeah, they're pretty big.

756
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:25,270
So I did med school for, like,

757
00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:27,250
six years here in Romania.

758
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:27,790
Wow.

759
00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:29,940
Oh, I need to put some context on that.

760
00:23:30,130 --> 00:23:31,880
I'll do as the story progresses, I guess.

761
00:23:31,930 --> 00:23:34,040
Finished med school, I was still, like,

762
00:23:34,050 --> 00:23:34,640
playing d and d with

763
00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:36,170
my friend every now and then, you know,

764
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,340
and then the pandemic hit, as I finished, like,

765
00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:41,170
finished my 6th year pandemic hit.

766
00:23:41,260 --> 00:23:42,460
So my goal was,

767
00:23:42,610 --> 00:23:44,290
I finish med school in Romania,

768
00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:47,650
and then I go to Germany. Why Romania?

769
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,820
The salary back then of a doctor now,

770
00:23:49,850 --> 00:23:50,660
it increased a bit,

771
00:23:50,730 --> 00:23:53,650
was about €900, which is, like, maybe $1,000.

772
00:23:53,770 --> 00:23:54,810
It's not a lot.

773
00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:56,260
It's good for Romania,

774
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:57,430
but it's not a lot of money.

775
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:58,640
Keep in mind, Romania, like,

776
00:23:58,670 --> 00:23:59,630
the minimum wage, I believe,

777
00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:02,670
is 400 or $450.

778
00:24:03,010 --> 00:24:03,990
It's very small.

779
00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:06,120
So I was like, okay, so I'll

780
00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:08,510
do it in Germany because residenciat, like,

781
00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:11,480
residency in Germany is closer

782
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:14,680
to, like, €3000, right? So, like, $3,200,

783
00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:16,270
something along those lines. So, like,

784
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:16,960
I'll do it there.

785
00:24:17,030 --> 00:24:18,710
And the advantage of Germany is,

786
00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:19,910
usually at the end of med school,

787
00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:21,550
you have a big examined

788
00:24:21,630 --> 00:24:23,550
residency exam where basically,

789
00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:24,940
according to your placement,

790
00:24:25,050 --> 00:24:27,310
you get to choose which specialty you take

791
00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:30,020
and in which city of the country, right?

792
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,140
So I was a fairly ambitious kid.

793
00:24:32,170 --> 00:24:34,230
So my aim was cardio, right?

794
00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:36,660
And I realized cardio and Romania,

795
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:37,620
I don't know if that's going

796
00:24:37,630 --> 00:24:39,300
to be possible because it's really,

797
00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:40,430
really tough competition.

798
00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:42,010
I didn't know if I was prepared enough, right?

799
00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:42,590
So I was like,

800
00:24:42,620 --> 00:24:43,580
I'll try it in Germany

801
00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:45,240
because Germany works different.

802
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,290
Germany doesn't have an examined.

803
00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:49,880
Germany takes you on a case by case basis.

804
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:52,080
It's just like a job application, right?

805
00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:53,460
You just need to prove

806
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,040
that you speak German well enough.

807
00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:56,440
And by that time,

808
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:57,660
I had like a year and

809
00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:59,380
something of like intense german lessons.

810
00:24:59,420 --> 00:25:00,840
So my German was pretty good.

811
00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:05,850
So I applied, I sent, I don't know, 5000 males,

812
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,450
maybe more to get a residency.

813
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,720
No reply

814
00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:13,090
or only negative replies, basically, right?

815
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,700
That was as the pandemic hit and not,

816
00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:17,440
and I learned they were not accepting, like,

817
00:25:17,970 --> 00:25:19,520
because at the beginning of the pandemic,

818
00:25:19,630 --> 00:25:21,490
nobody knew what was going on.

819
00:25:21,610 --> 00:25:23,430
So I don't think they were ready to take on

820
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,310
the responsibility of like a foreign student.

821
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:26,360
But to be fair,

822
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:26,940
maybe my file

823
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:28,730
was just not good enough. Like, who knows?

824
00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:29,730
But it was,

825
00:25:29,770 --> 00:25:31,870
it all came back negative basically, right?

826
00:25:32,290 --> 00:25:35,380
So I was like, fuck. I was like,

827
00:25:35,390 --> 00:25:37,300
I did six years of med school and I'm not gonna

828
00:25:37,310 --> 00:25:40,110
do anything with my life that is not good.

829
00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:43,890
So that kept me up at night. I slept.

830
00:25:44,010 --> 00:25:44,910
I couldn't manage to, like,

831
00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:46,000
sleep 3 hours a night.

832
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:48,110
I was just like, the panic, the sheer

833
00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:50,890
panic of having wasted my life was, was bad.

834
00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:53,110
I don't know if anyone can relate to that.

835
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,710
Yeah, pandemic.

836
00:25:55,130 --> 00:25:57,850
So we do that. So I'm like, like, it's, it's,

837
00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:58,910
it's over, you know, like,

838
00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:01,510
I fucking wasted education.

839
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:02,560
Not gonna do anything.

840
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:03,310
Oh, man.

841
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,840
I was like, okay, okay, calm down, Evan. Like,

842
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:06,570
you'll find something.

843
00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:07,590
And at the time,

844
00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:11,760
I was frequenting quite a bit Reddit, and

845
00:26:11,790 --> 00:26:14,340
I was usually a lot on like, unearthed piano,

846
00:26:14,410 --> 00:26:16,340
which is Reddit for homebrew content.

847
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,220
And there I saw like a couple of dudes.

848
00:26:20,290 --> 00:26:21,630
I saw Kibble's tasty

849
00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:24,320
and I saw a spectre creation. The arena guy,

850
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,050
his name is,

851
00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:27,100
and they were making like a grand a month.

852
00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:28,630
And I think in the case of Kibble,

853
00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:29,740
it was like two grands.

854
00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:31,750
And I was like, that's,

855
00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:34,000
that's good money, man. I was like, like,

856
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,890
especially for me in Romania,

857
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:36,460
I was like, oh, dude, that's pretty decent.

858
00:26:36,490 --> 00:26:37,630
Like, maybe I could like, you know, like

859
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:39,490
make maybe 100 or two and that would be like,

860
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:40,340
a nice supplemental

861
00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:41,960
income in case of something, right?

862
00:26:41,970 --> 00:26:44,020
So I started doing that. Well, first month,

863
00:26:44,050 --> 00:26:44,770
I didn't make any money,

864
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,410
so that was that. But, you know, like,

865
00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:49,100
at some point, I

866
00:26:49,130 --> 00:26:50,300
started it also because I enjoyed

867
00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:52,400
it and it distracted me from my thoughts.

868
00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:55,150
So I was just like, you know, I'll do that.

869
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:56,260
And then in the meantime, I'll

870
00:26:56,290 --> 00:26:58,220
prepare for the romanian exam for medicine.

871
00:26:58,370 --> 00:27:00,710
So I got myself busy, basically.

872
00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:01,730
I was studying medicine,

873
00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:03,730
and I was producing homebrew content

874
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,820
in the hopes of maybe monetizing it.

875
00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:07,180
I set up the Patreon and

876
00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:09,600
everything, blah, blah, blah. And then, like,

877
00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:11,650
second month throws around,

878
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040
and I'm like, $20, I think, or something.

879
00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:15,690
Not very much money,

880
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,640
let's just say. But I remember, like,

881
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:19,000
it's so funny how things change,

882
00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:20,540
because now I make $20. I'm like, oh,

883
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:21,690
that's nice. You know? But, like, back then,

884
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,380
I was just, like, so ecstatic.

885
00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:24,930
I remember it's like,

886
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,700
going to my friends, like, look, man, like,

887
00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:28,290
I got a subscriber. Like, somebody

888
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,120
agreed to pay me $1 a month. That's insane.

889
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:33,290
It's also

890
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,080
from your passion, right? It's like, wow,

891
00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:35,850
I can actually make

892
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,240
money doing this thing I like doing.

893
00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:38,270
Yeah, exactly like that. Like,

894
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,140
the first dollar, it's like, right? It's like,

895
00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:40,740
people are actually

896
00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:41,800
willing to pay money for this.

897
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,860
People want this. Yeah, yeah.

898
00:27:43,950 --> 00:27:45,300
And I was like, okay, man,

899
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,550
I got something there, you know?

900
00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:50,380
And I remember. I remember, like,

901
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,950
telling my dad about it,

902
00:27:51,980 --> 00:27:53,300
and he was like, son,

903
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:54,740
what are you doing? And you're like.

904
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,550
Yeah.

905
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:01,370
Parents aren't always on board

906
00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:03,820
with our initial plans to make money.

907
00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:04,940
I mean, to be fair,

908
00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:06,020
I don't blame them, because, like,

909
00:28:06,050 --> 00:28:06,580
when they made, like,

910
00:28:06,610 --> 00:28:08,780
$20 in a month, they're like, you know, maybe.

911
00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:10,130
Maybe consider other options.

912
00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:11,080
Just saying you didn't.

913
00:28:11,150 --> 00:28:14,630
Yeah, keep going on the medicine path, son.

914
00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:15,580
Yeah, exactly.

915
00:28:15,630 --> 00:28:16,900
I'm not be a doctor.

916
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:18,750
I am going to go do D and D content.

917
00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:19,790
That would have been.

918
00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:22,960
But, like, it was never my goal to be, like,

919
00:28:22,990 --> 00:28:24,630
full time DNA content. Like, at first,

920
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,230
it was always, like, side income and, like,

921
00:28:27,260 --> 00:28:28,050
I'll do medicine, right?

922
00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:28,870
That was the idea.

923
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,580
Because medicine is

924
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:31,750
a lot more reliable than d and e, or should be.

925
00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:35,040
And so I was like, okay, well, $20.

926
00:28:35,150 --> 00:28:36,860
I'm happy with that. Nice. Like,

927
00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:38,600
I'm pumped about it.

928
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,950
Then next month rolls around,

929
00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:41,460
and I think I go to, like,

930
00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:43,080
$80 or something. So, like,

931
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,540
quadruple my income. And I'm like, oh, God,

932
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,940
it's good money, man.

933
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,180
So I was really, really

934
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:52,310
thrilled because like, basically, till then,

935
00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:53,550
what I had been doing was just, like,

936
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:56,870
giving people free shit and having that

937
00:28:56,980 --> 00:29:00,350
same stuff on my Patreon and with, like,

938
00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:01,180
a little bit of, like,

939
00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:02,600
additional extra content, like,

940
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,300
exclusives that people would pay for.

941
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:05,780
But that was, like, the main idea. But

942
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:07,630
all of this was, like, working towards, like,

943
00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:08,970
a compendium where I would, like,

944
00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:10,540
amalgamate everything together

945
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,430
and shove it to the people.

946
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:16,060
And so I did that. And so I, like, you know,

947
00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:17,140
get my content together,

948
00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:18,610
and I released my first compendium,

949
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,360
the northern light compendium.

950
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,140
And it worked. It bloody worked.

951
00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:24,150
I remember I was in a field. It was, like,

952
00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,310
a slovak village, basically, right?

953
00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:27,790
It was, like, a whole event. It was, like,

954
00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:29,460
really nice in nature. Whatever. I was, like,

955
00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:31,550
glued to. To my phone, because, Patreon,

956
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,310
every time you get, like,

957
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,180
a new subscriber sends you a mail,

958
00:29:34,220 --> 00:29:35,810
if you have the option set up right now,

959
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,970
I have it removed, but back then,

960
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,980
I had it set up, and I was just, like, getting

961
00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:40,630
mail after mail after mail of, like, oh,

962
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,450
you got a new subscriber.

963
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,250
You got a new subscriber.

964
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,870
You got a new subscriber. And basically,

965
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,450
I went from, like, $80 to, like, 800, I think.

966
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,290
So hold on.

967
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,140
This is a critical mass moment.

968
00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:50,900
Yeah, yeah. It blew up. Yeah.

969
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:52,840
You put together a compendium, which.

970
00:29:52,910 --> 00:29:54,720
And looking at your patreon,

971
00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:56,760
it looks like these compendiums are everything

972
00:29:56,830 --> 00:29:58,780
that you had created for that month.

973
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,570
So back then, it was, like,

974
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,870
three months of work. Like, the first.

975
00:30:01,910 --> 00:30:02,730
Okay, gotcha.

976
00:30:02,780 --> 00:30:04,130
Even now, I have, like,

977
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,810
two different compendiums types.

978
00:30:05,860 --> 00:30:07,890
I have ones that I make in one month,

979
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,480
which are called compendiums, and

980
00:30:09,490 --> 00:30:11,730
I have ones we take usually, like, two months,

981
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,950
two months and a half to make,

982
00:30:13,070 --> 00:30:14,730
which are called tomes, which are, like,

983
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,530
larger books for, like,

984
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,000
the adept tier. Right? Like,

985
00:30:18,010 --> 00:30:19,530
the highest tier I have on my.

986
00:30:19,870 --> 00:30:22,330
So it sounds like people were drawn to

987
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,530
the convenience that you offered with this,

988
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,090
because at first,

989
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:25,790
people were getting

990
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:27,010
the content that you were making,

991
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:28,660
and they appreciated it, and.

992
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:31,100
But it would be all over the Internet,

993
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:32,180
all over your patreon.

994
00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:33,200
But then you started

995
00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:35,470
to compile it into these compendiums,

996
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,920
and it sounds like.

997
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:38,680
And I love to hear what your thoughts are.

998
00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:40,930
It sounds like people loved

999
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,850
that convenience and that ease of access.

1000
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,850
What do you think that that was part of it,

1001
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,050
or is there something else that

1002
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400
you think really created that skyrocket?

1003
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:49,800
I think there's more to it.

1004
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,620
I'll tell you what I think happened,

1005
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:53,030
so I can tell you.

1006
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,070
I think there's more to it. Why? Because now,

1007
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,930
so to be fair,

1008
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,030
now there's more people doing it,

1009
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,330
so the market is more saturated,

1010
00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:00,160
so it's harder to stand out, of course.

1011
00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:01,920
But there's people doing companions, right?

1012
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:02,600
But they don't.

1013
00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:05,320
It doesn't work that well. Why? So me,

1014
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:07,130
I'm a big believer in the thank you economy.

1015
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:08,710
I don't know if you ever heard this concept.

1016
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,510
Gary V. Can you elaborate?

1017
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,490
Okay. The idea is like, you just, like,

1018
00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:15,590
flood people with free stuff for a long time,

1019
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,320
and then they're like, oh, my God,

1020
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:18,870
this is so much free stuff. Like,

1021
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,800
how can I repay you

1022
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:21,520
for all this stuff you've given me? Right?

1023
00:31:21,670 --> 00:31:23,760
And that's the moment where you're like, boom,

1024
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:25,220
I sell you something. And

1025
00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:26,630
I think the companion was that because, like,

1026
00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:28,110
back until then, I basically, like,

1027
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:28,740
I just had, like, a

1028
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:29,440
little link at the

1029
00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:31,110
bottom of my Reddit posts were like, hey,

1030
00:31:31,150 --> 00:31:32,410
I have a Patreon, by the way,

1031
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:33,850
but it was not a hard sell, right?

1032
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:34,730
At all, right?

1033
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,830
But then the companion

1034
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:37,190
came around and then it was like, boom,

1035
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:38,690
hard sell, right? I just, like, I

1036
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,060
gave you all this free stuff for, like, a very,

1037
00:31:40,090 --> 00:31:40,790
very long time.

1038
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:42,030
Hopefully by now you're thankful.

1039
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:42,570
If you're not,

1040
00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:43,460
that's fine as well.

1041
00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:45,280
I'll keep doing free stuff anyway.

1042
00:31:45,410 --> 00:31:47,570
And he was like, there you go. Here's, like,

1043
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,250
a thing that you can actually give me money

1044
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,780
for if you want to thank me for all the

1045
00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:52,500
free stuff that you've been enjoying so far.

1046
00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:54,490
That's, like, paraphrasing, right? Like,

1047
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,300
it's also convenient for people,

1048
00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:57,750
and it's like a good.

1049
00:31:57,910 --> 00:31:58,860
And basically that worked.

1050
00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:00,610
And that was like, boom, 700, right?

1051
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:01,180
Interesting.

1052
00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:03,410
That makes a lot of sense from the standpoint

1053
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:06,630
of what coming from my area of expertise,

1054
00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:07,710
which is sales.

1055
00:32:07,790 --> 00:32:08,620
And one of

1056
00:32:08,650 --> 00:32:11,580
the big sales triggers that works. I mean,

1057
00:32:11,610 --> 00:32:12,890
this is written in

1058
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:15,540
Robert Cialdini's book influence.

1059
00:32:15,730 --> 00:32:17,700
The first chapter, I believe,

1060
00:32:17,890 --> 00:32:19,530
is called reciprocation.

1061
00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:23,510
It's like an inevitable thing that if you give

1062
00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:26,060
something away to people for free for a while,

1063
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:28,360
they do start to feel an obligation to

1064
00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:30,450
find a way to pay it back back in some way,

1065
00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:32,650
whether that be in dollars or giving

1066
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:34,490
you other free stuff or support or

1067
00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:36,400
service or following or whatever it is.

1068
00:32:36,430 --> 00:32:38,910
So. But I think that's so interesting.

1069
00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:40,380
Cause a lot of people don't think

1070
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:42,490
that way when they're starting a business.

1071
00:32:42,570 --> 00:32:43,780
The idea of, like,

1072
00:32:43,910 --> 00:32:44,950
doing this for free,

1073
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,990
that's why I always say,

1074
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,080
if you're gonna start a business,

1075
00:32:47,150 --> 00:32:48,480
you should be doing a

1076
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,590
business that you would do for free,

1077
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,240
because if you aren't willing

1078
00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:54,280
to do it for free for a while,

1079
00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:55,640
or if you're not willing to

1080
00:32:55,670 --> 00:32:57,230
give away what you're doing for

1081
00:32:57,260 --> 00:32:59,110
free and just do it for the process,

1082
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,560
you're probably not gonna get to that

1083
00:33:00,590 --> 00:33:02,080
tipping point that you're talking about,

1084
00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:03,650
where you've created enough goodwill,

1085
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,760
where people wanna come in and support you.

1086
00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:08,680
I would say yes and no.

1087
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:11,910
Cause I'm a proponent of doing free work.

1088
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,550
To get your bearings together,

1089
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,980
give people the.

1090
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:17,610
Give them a solid reason to trust you.

1091
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,780
Cause it's like, oh, okay.

1092
00:33:18,820 --> 00:33:19,740
I've seen free stuff.

1093
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:20,540
Free stuff is good.

1094
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:22,240
Probably paid stuff is good as well.

1095
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:26,240
But I also don't like working for free.

1096
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:27,720
And not as in, like,

1097
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,640
I have people who've worked for me, just, like,

1098
00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:32,450
freelance stuff here and there.

1099
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,390
And a lot of

1100
00:33:33,420 --> 00:33:35,550
times it's been fans, right? Like. Or, I mean,

1101
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:36,250
I'm saying fans.

1102
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:37,040
I don't know if they're fans,

1103
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,340
but they at least follow me on Instagram,

1104
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:39,220
let's just say.

1105
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,730
And they're like, yeah, man,

1106
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:42,250
I can do this for you, no problem. You know,

1107
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:43,670
I can do this for you. I'll do it.

1108
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:44,930
No charge. You know, like, at some point,

1109
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:46,580
I was looking for a video editor,

1110
00:33:46,670 --> 00:33:48,780
and right now I'm editing my videos myself.

1111
00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:49,930
I came back to myself because

1112
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,260
I freed myself more time for it.

1113
00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:52,880
But back then, I was like, you know,

1114
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,050
could use a video editor.

1115
00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:55,990
So I posted a story, and, like,

1116
00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:58,020
a lot of people came forward, and I took,

1117
00:33:58,050 --> 00:33:59,420
liked it three or four,

1118
00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:01,100
and I was like, okay, like, here's a video.

1119
00:34:01,150 --> 00:34:03,180
You can edit it. And they had, like,

1120
00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:04,570
three different videos, right? So, like,

1121
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:05,180
I would have, like,

1122
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:06,520
three different edits, and I would, like,

1123
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,199
pick the best one. And I was.

1124
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,050
And they're like, okay, yeah, sure, I'll do it.

1125
00:34:10,219 --> 00:34:12,300
And they finished, like, editing the video,

1126
00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:14,010
and I was like, okay, how

1127
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:15,110
much do I owe you? And they're like, no, no,

1128
00:34:15,139 --> 00:34:17,230
don't worry, man. I understand. Like,

1129
00:34:17,260 --> 00:34:18,580
if you want to. If you want to.

1130
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:19,770
If you want to do it for free. Like,

1131
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:21,659
they finished the work before I, like,

1132
00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:22,570
even paid them. And I was like, dude,

1133
00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:23,389
I'm not letting you, like,

1134
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,790
edit a full freaking video and, you know,

1135
00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:27,050
not pay you, right.

1136
00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:29,650
So on some level, like, yes,

1137
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:30,989
do stuff free. Cause, like,

1138
00:34:31,010 --> 00:34:32,659
it gets exposure. And, I mean,

1139
00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:34,460
I hate the term exposure because, like, artists

1140
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:35,889
who are listening to this are gonna, like,

1141
00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:36,550
rip off their

1142
00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:39,940
hair. Cause, like, oh, yeah, exposure. But.

1143
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,889
But I don't know.

1144
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:43,710
I don't like not paying people for working.

1145
00:34:43,780 --> 00:34:44,310
Let's just say that,

1146
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:46,090
of course I agree with that.

1147
00:34:46,130 --> 00:34:46,739
Yeah.

1148
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,199
There is a tendency for

1149
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,219
artists to undervalue their work, too, because

1150
00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:53,270
they're willing to do it for free, 100%.

1151
00:34:53,340 --> 00:34:55,449
Don't. Like, if you ever open a Patreon,

1152
00:34:55,530 --> 00:34:57,060
do not have a $1 tier.

1153
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,960
Just letting you know your work,

1154
00:34:59,050 --> 00:35:00,280
you've put work in it.

1155
00:35:00,430 --> 00:35:02,220
Your work is not worth $1.

1156
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:03,290
It's worth more than that.

1157
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,590
Do not have a $1 tier.

1158
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,840
And think of it mathematically.

1159
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:08,850
If your lowest tier is, like, $3, like mine,

1160
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,510
for example,

1161
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,650
it's already three times the value. And, like,

1162
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,160
the difficulty of entry between

1163
00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:15,190
one and $3 is the same for people.

1164
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,880
So don't have a $1 tier.

1165
00:35:16,910 --> 00:35:17,790
Just don't do it. Okay.

1166
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,880
If they're willing to pay a buck,

1167
00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:20,490
they're probably fine with three.

1168
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,510
Yeah, exactly. That's. That's the thing.

1169
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,730
Even my $3 here, I'm, like,

1170
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,790
considering removing it because now

1171
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,280
I have so much content on my Patreon,

1172
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:29,090
it doesn't make sense to have it for $3.

1173
00:35:29,130 --> 00:35:30,270
You just get, like,

1174
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:32,430
so much more value.

1175
00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:37,300
But now I have, like, you know, hindsight.

1176
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:39,790
Hindsight, exactly. Thank you. To, like,

1177
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,360
see this and be like, yeah, okay,

1178
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:43,920
it's not worth $3. But back then, even for me,

1179
00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:45,650
because I had a $1 cheer at some point,

1180
00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:46,830
and then I had, like, other

1181
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,020
friends who were doing Patreon who are like,

1182
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:50,430
you remove that thing,

1183
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:52,230
it's hurting you in the long term.

1184
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,830
And I was like,

1185
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,960
they're making more money than me,

1186
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:55,330
so probably they know a thing I don't.

1187
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,430
I'll listen to them. But, yeah, don't.

1188
00:35:57,470 --> 00:35:59,590
Don't have a $1 chair. Don't do it.

1189
00:35:59,670 --> 00:36:01,250
That's really good advice, actually.

1190
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,580
That's something that, you know,

1191
00:36:02,650 --> 00:36:05,750
where we are right now in this project,

1192
00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:07,750
this nerdpreneur podcast, is.

1193
00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:11,210
That's advice that we probably needed to hear.

1194
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:14,080
Yeah. No, like, just think about it. Like,

1195
00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:15,070
you really think, like,

1196
00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:17,130
something you worked maybe hours

1197
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,170
on is worth $1. Really? Like, probably nothing.

1198
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:21,810
I want to talk.

1199
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,850
I have so many questions along the

1200
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,970
lines of that story and building it.

1201
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:29,260
You're talking about the day where you

1202
00:36:29,290 --> 00:36:31,680
all of a sudden went from zero to, say, 800,

1203
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:33,730
and that was an important day, right?

1204
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:34,080
Yeah.

1205
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:36,290
You still had a day job, right?

1206
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,840
Or a thing that

1207
00:36:36,850 --> 00:36:38,770
you were doing for money regularly?

1208
00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:40,810
No, no. That's why I was terrified.

1209
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:41,810
You didn't.

1210
00:36:42,270 --> 00:36:44,970
I was a med student. I had nothing. Right.

1211
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,130
And that's why.

1212
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,620
That's why I couldn't sleep at night.

1213
00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:48,490
That's why I was, like,

1214
00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:50,630
studying or working and doing nothing.

1215
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:52,910
Else because my thoughts wouldn't allow me.

1216
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:55,070
So it was like, this very,

1217
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,380
very stressful time because I was like,

1218
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:59,210
I don't have a job beside medicine.

1219
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:00,710
I don't know how to do jack shit.

1220
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:01,430
And I was like,

1221
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:02,990
I need to do something in my life, man.

1222
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:06,290
And when I had that 700, like, that just, like,

1223
00:37:06,330 --> 00:37:08,590
popped up over a month, I was, like, the

1224
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:10,200
relief I felt because I was like, oh, my God,

1225
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:10,830
I have a salary.

1226
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:11,880
I can pay rent. I can pay food.

1227
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:13,290
I can pay everything now. It's fine.

1228
00:37:13,410 --> 00:37:16,580
And this was around lockdown time, too, right?

1229
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:18,270
So you're not really allowed to leave.

1230
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,410
There's that added stress.

1231
00:37:19,450 --> 00:37:21,900
No, I was very lucky because

1232
00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:23,140
I don't have family in Romania.

1233
00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:24,890
My family is in France. I

1234
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,460
couldn't go back to France because locked down.

1235
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:29,040
So I was not allowed to do.

1236
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,020
France was very closed off. Yeah.

1237
00:37:31,150 --> 00:37:33,600
Yeah. And. And on top of that, I.

1238
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,390
Even if I wanted to,

1239
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:35,300
I probably shouldn't have,

1240
00:37:35,330 --> 00:37:38,060
because as it was, like, this whole, like,

1241
00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:39,350
shit storm that just, like,

1242
00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:40,200
kind of came my way,

1243
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,240
so it was like. So medicine, like,

1244
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,920
didn't work out. Like,

1245
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,940
I couldn't find a job.

1246
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:45,610
I got an appendicitis.

1247
00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:47,170
As the pandemic hit,

1248
00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:48,460
as they were putting the measures,

1249
00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:49,380
the restriction measures.

1250
00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:50,050
Oh, my gosh.

1251
00:37:50,140 --> 00:37:50,380
I.

1252
00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:52,490
So I was gonna have to go back at, like,

1253
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,610
an empty apartment alone after a surgery

1254
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,240
where I could, like, barely walk. I was, like,

1255
00:37:57,330 --> 00:37:59,970
so messed up. But, like, luckily for me, like,

1256
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,560
a friend took me

1257
00:38:01,570 --> 00:38:03,070
in their house with their family,

1258
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:04,810
and that's the family, actually,

1259
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:06,120
that also helped

1260
00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:08,860
the ukrainian family. They're like, the. Wow.

1261
00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:11,140
They're tremendously good people.

1262
00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:13,970
Like angels. They are. They are.

1263
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,860
They are some of the nicest people I've

1264
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:18,080
ever met in my life. They are amazing. Yeah.

1265
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,340
Those people in life that are just, you know,

1266
00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:21,510
you look back, and it's like, wow,

1267
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:23,030
these people really were the

1268
00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:25,630
grace of the universe coming to you.

1269
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:26,270
Yeah.

1270
00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:28,790
You know, and that's so. That's so great.

1271
00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:31,630
And that they were like that I was blown away.

1272
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,020
I still am to this day, especially

1273
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:34,540
when I saw what they did with the refugees,

1274
00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:35,330
and they're helping,

1275
00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:37,200
and they don't have a lot of money saved up,

1276
00:38:37,230 --> 00:38:38,410
and I offered to help them

1277
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:40,360
because they had a car accident, and not.

1278
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:41,870
Nobody was injured, just a car.

1279
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:42,630
Right.

1280
00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:44,070
And I was like, if you want, I

1281
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,470
can pay for reparation of the car or something.

1282
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:46,550
And they're like, no, no, we're fine.

1283
00:38:46,580 --> 00:38:47,520
Don't worry about it. Go.

1284
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:48,590
Go do your thing. It's all right.

1285
00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:51,160
And I'm like, dude, like, ah, you're.

1286
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:52,960
Just looking for that chance to.

1287
00:38:53,090 --> 00:38:55,700
Yeah, not giving it to me, man.

1288
00:38:55,850 --> 00:38:57,440
Interesting. Those.

1289
00:38:57,490 --> 00:38:59,830
Those are some good lessons, I find. I mean,

1290
00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:01,090
it's those moments.

1291
00:39:01,470 --> 00:39:03,370
It was a learning moment for me to realize,

1292
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,210
you know what?

1293
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:07,050
This is the universe saying,

1294
00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:10,210
money is not the way to pay it back.

1295
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,920
The way to pay it back to people

1296
00:39:11,970 --> 00:39:14,150
like this are to actually give, like,

1297
00:39:14,190 --> 00:39:15,960
your love and your attention and

1298
00:39:15,970 --> 00:39:17,680
your time and your energy and

1299
00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:20,740
quality time with these people is, you know,

1300
00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:21,930
and that's really hard for

1301
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:23,080
some people to wrap their heads around.

1302
00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:25,200
It was hard for me to wrap my head around that.

1303
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:26,780
I want to pay it back,

1304
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:28,670
and they don't seem to want money.

1305
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,540
What do they want?

1306
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:31,020
What are they giving me? Oh,

1307
00:39:31,070 --> 00:39:32,110
what they're giving me is

1308
00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:34,690
their idea of love and kindness.

1309
00:39:34,810 --> 00:39:36,760
They probably want that in return.

1310
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:38,590
The grace of some humans, like,

1311
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:40,180
it really makes a difference in,

1312
00:39:40,270 --> 00:39:41,470
in people's lives. Right?

1313
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,640
I remember being in my,

1314
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:45,070
my business the first year, running it ever,

1315
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:47,060
and being so broke and, like,

1316
00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:49,830
three months behind rent in my home rent.

1317
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,920
And then I had an office.

1318
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:52,000
I was paying for that.

1319
00:39:52,030 --> 00:39:54,190
I basically struggled

1320
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:55,920
to pay every single month,

1321
00:39:56,070 --> 00:39:58,060
bouncing a check and then finding money

1322
00:39:58,110 --> 00:40:00,310
24 hours later to pay it back and, like,

1323
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,570
finding ways to do that.

1324
00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:03,260
And I was doing that for, like, six months.

1325
00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:05,320
And finally I just had reached

1326
00:40:05,350 --> 00:40:08,030
the edge of my rope in March.

1327
00:40:08,770 --> 00:40:10,410
Similar, like, yeah, this, this month,

1328
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,630
actually, but many, many, many years ago,

1329
00:40:13,060 --> 00:40:14,340
and I had no money left

1330
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:16,110
except for the cash I had on me.

1331
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,550
And I remember the landlord having to

1332
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,460
call him and just being like, oh, can we meet?

1333
00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:23,880
And I sat down with him and he said, well,

1334
00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:25,090
you're a good tenant.

1335
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,830
I like that. You're young, you're hustling.

1336
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,390
You're trying to get everything done.

1337
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,810
What's it going to take to

1338
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,200
get you through this rough patch? And I said,

1339
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,040
I don't know.

1340
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:34,430
What can you give?

1341
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,500
I didn't give them an answer.

1342
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:36,580
It's important when you're in sales.

1343
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:38,320
Just ask them to give the first

1344
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:40,510
offer because I expected him maybe,

1345
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:43,190
maybe to let me slide this month a little bit,

1346
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:47,490
but he actually was like, well, you got, like,

1347
00:40:47,530 --> 00:40:49,150
six months left in your lease.

1348
00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:53,780
What if I knock your rent down from $1,400

1349
00:40:53,830 --> 00:40:56,590
a month to $800

1350
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,410
a month for the next six months?

1351
00:40:58,490 --> 00:40:59,710
How much are you paying?

1352
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:02,710
Yeah, yeah. Don't get us started on rent, man.

1353
00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:03,870
Don't get us started on that.

1354
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,140
This was my landlord

1355
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:07,170
for my commercial business, right?

1356
00:41:07,210 --> 00:41:09,760
So this was a business rent. So, so this is.

1357
00:41:09,850 --> 00:41:12,370
And I was, like, 22 at the time, too.

1358
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:15,700
I really didn't know about what

1359
00:41:15,730 --> 00:41:17,370
I was getting into or what I was doing,

1360
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,630
and I was making a lot of mistakes.

1361
00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:19,630
I've never heard this.

1362
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:20,290
So I just.

1363
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,610
But he said to me,

1364
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:22,690
I'll never forget him.

1365
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:24,140
His name was Aldo de Felice.

1366
00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:27,330
And he was like a saint in that moment to me,

1367
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,780
because he not only knocked

1368
00:41:28,810 --> 00:41:30,930
down my rent for dollar 600 less,

1369
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:33,200
he did it for six months just to kind

1370
00:41:33,210 --> 00:41:35,630
of let me get through this rough patch.

1371
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,270
And I'll tell you, like, two months later,

1372
00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:41,600
I turned the whole thing around. We went out,

1373
00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:43,120
and our sales organization

1374
00:41:43,230 --> 00:41:45,270
had our best sales month in May.

1375
00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:47,050
And it's a seasonal business.

1376
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:48,150
And then I went from there,

1377
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:49,190
and I wound up working

1378
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:51,460
in that company as a successful, like,

1379
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:52,840
franchise owner, essentially,

1380
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:55,070
for the next ten years.

1381
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,940
And if that guy had not

1382
00:41:57,110 --> 00:41:58,600
given me that little moment

1383
00:41:58,630 --> 00:42:02,200
of grace and that little bit of. Of a chance,

1384
00:42:02,330 --> 00:42:04,010
that breath in that moment,

1385
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,020
I wouldn't have been the person I am today.

1386
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:08,290
I wouldn't have gone in that path, and

1387
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,950
so much of my life would have been different.

1388
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,200
I really. A hundred percent, because I. It was

1389
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:14,440
exactly my experience with these people. Like,

1390
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:15,320
they gave me a roof,

1391
00:42:15,350 --> 00:42:16,570
they gave me food, and I could, like,

1392
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,730
focus on percent on medicine and the business,

1393
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520
and that ended up working out amazingly.

1394
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:22,660
If they weren't there, I

1395
00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:24,230
don't know if I could have made it. Who knows?

1396
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,410
But I did.

1397
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,120
And mostly thanks to them. So.

1398
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:28,520
Definitely owe them on this one.

1399
00:42:28,610 --> 00:42:30,980
Yeah. So Chris and I don't really.

1400
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:32,500
This is not our full time job,

1401
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:33,920
as I understand it is for you,

1402
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,910
which is. Congratulations, by the way.

1403
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:36,540
Thank you.

1404
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:39,150
That is so cool that you

1405
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:41,110
get to do this for your full time job.

1406
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:41,860
To be fair,

1407
00:42:41,890 --> 00:42:43,940
it's easier to do in Romania because, like,

1408
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:46,090
the average money that you need for

1409
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,030
a living is a lot lower than in the US.

1410
00:42:48,140 --> 00:42:50,820
So at 500 a month,

1411
00:42:50,890 --> 00:42:52,630
it's enough to make a living and, like,

1412
00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:53,700
a pretty decent thing.

1413
00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:56,330
But you're above that, too, so.

1414
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,370
Oh, right.

1415
00:42:58,870 --> 00:43:00,350
I was gonna say, I mean,

1416
00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:03,930
$500 a month, that's our. Our first milestone.

1417
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,570
We got to get to.

1418
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,040
And then. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, you're

1419
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:08,770
definitely come a long way since then, I guess.

1420
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,940
So just. What's

1421
00:43:09,970 --> 00:43:12,180
on your patreon? Like, I mean, because that.

1422
00:43:12,210 --> 00:43:13,390
That's pretty transparent.

1423
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:14,830
I don't get all of it.

1424
00:43:14,910 --> 00:43:16,250
I wish I did.

1425
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:20,010
There's expenses and there's taxes, of course.

1426
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:22,940
What Patreon tight takes a.

1427
00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:23,650
So basically, like,

1428
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,200
they have three tiers, right?

1429
00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:27,440
As they say, they have, like,

1430
00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:30,780
first tier where they just basically, like,

1431
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:31,870
let you use the platform

1432
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,560
to collect money and that's it.

1433
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:35,420
So I don't think you can, like,

1434
00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:36,390
customize the kind

1435
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,890
of posts that you do like. You have very,

1436
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,200
very limited options, basically. Right.

1437
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:41,810
And that's. So they,

1438
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,680
they say they take 5%,

1439
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:45,270
but there's actually more.

1440
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,760
I can detail more on my tier

1441
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:48,760
because that's the one I know best. Of course,

1442
00:43:48,850 --> 00:43:50,810
then there's the tiram,

1443
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,440
which they say is 8%,

1444
00:43:52,510 --> 00:43:54,600
which allows you to make. So custom posts,

1445
00:43:54,690 --> 00:43:55,430
you get access to

1446
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,800
your analytics and all of that, that's 8%.

1447
00:43:57,870 --> 00:43:59,050
And then they have like another

1448
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,120
tier where they say it's 12%.

1449
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:03,760
And what it allows you to do is

1450
00:44:03,790 --> 00:44:05,520
if you have associates and other

1451
00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:07,920
people working with you on the Patreon,

1452
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:10,000
that allows you to basically connect multiple

1453
00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:12,120
people to handle the account, I'm assuming.

1454
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,240
So not everybody has access to the finances.

1455
00:44:14,270 --> 00:44:16,120
I'm not exactly sure, not

1456
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:18,920
interested in it since I work mainly loan. So.

1457
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:21,360
Solopreneur. Yeah, yeah.

1458
00:44:22,060 --> 00:44:23,010
It started like this.

1459
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,780
Now I have people helping me on various stuff,

1460
00:44:24,820 --> 00:44:26,480
but not on the Patreon, let's say.

1461
00:44:26,610 --> 00:44:28,190
And so on that 8% tier,

1462
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,280
they take another, I believe,

1463
00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:31,760
like six or 7% or

1464
00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:34,410
just like payment processing fees. And plus me,

1465
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,920
I get also screwed over because

1466
00:44:35,950 --> 00:44:39,150
I'm in Romania and I work in the US,

1467
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,990
and PayPal is like, oh,

1468
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,070
that's two different countries.

1469
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,410
And your currency isn't the

1470
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,450
US dollar in Romania, right. So they're like,

1471
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,680
if you want to access your money,

1472
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:48,340
you're gonna pay a nice conversion rate.

1473
00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:49,370
It's not like the, you know,

1474
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,400
like the market conversion rate,

1475
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:52,510
it's like the one that PayPal decides it is.

1476
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,120
So PayPal is not great for anyone.

1477
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:56,380
No, no. So for that reason,

1478
00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:58,530
I switched to payoneer. But even them, like,

1479
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,120
if I want to withdraw any money,

1480
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:01,600
it's like a 2% commission.

1481
00:45:01,730 --> 00:45:03,050
So like, there's like, you know, like

1482
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,280
it's like little percentages here. Yeah, yeah.

1483
00:45:05,330 --> 00:45:08,110
Everyone takes a piece, right, exactly.

1484
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,010
Everybody take piece.

1485
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,100
And then it's like, you know, website as well,

1486
00:45:11,110 --> 00:45:12,070
which I need to maintain.

1487
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:13,560
There's like people that I.

1488
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:15,320
That help me, which I pay. So

1489
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:17,920
I don't like all of that money isn't mine, but.

1490
00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:20,120
But I definitely make certainly

1491
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:21,750
more than enough to live comfortably.

1492
00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:23,790
But that's.

1493
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,640
But that's really good

1494
00:45:24,670 --> 00:45:27,900
to know for anyone who is. Who is, you know,

1495
00:45:27,950 --> 00:45:29,490
wanting to reach the level that

1496
00:45:29,530 --> 00:45:31,780
you're at and you know that

1497
00:45:31,870 --> 00:45:33,550
there are these costs associated with,

1498
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,850
especially in a different country,

1499
00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:36,210
you know, PayPal. It's true.

1500
00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:39,180
PayPal is optimized for Americans.

1501
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:41,420
And it has some, you know,

1502
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:43,110
wiggle room for certain countries,

1503
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,960
but there's a.

1504
00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,160
Lot a little bit better for Canada. Recently,

1505
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:49,410
I work for Americans,

1506
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,390
and I'm a Canadian.

1507
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,450
And so they used to pay me through PayPal,

1508
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,960
but it was costing me, like, two to 300,

1509
00:45:57,010 --> 00:45:58,300
$400 of my paycheck

1510
00:45:58,340 --> 00:46:00,440
a month or something. It was like, it was,

1511
00:46:00,510 --> 00:46:03,830
it was a big conversion. Like, not a, I mean,

1512
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:05,430
relative to my paycheck.

1513
00:46:05,470 --> 00:46:07,050
It was like, all right,

1514
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,260
but the actual, the actual, like,

1515
00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:11,350
process of, like, well, that's,

1516
00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:12,770
that adds up. You know, like,

1517
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,340
over a whole year, you got $2,400 to.

1518
00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:17,200
Or so that could be invested or it could

1519
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:18,970
be saved or could be done something with.

1520
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,570
And.

1521
00:46:22,030 --> 00:46:23,010
Exactly right.

1522
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:24,340
And all they're doing is sending

1523
00:46:24,370 --> 00:46:26,270
me money that I already own. Right? Like,

1524
00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:28,300
that's what's so crazy about the business.

1525
00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:30,830
It's my money. You know, that's.

1526
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:31,920
I feel,

1527
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:33,080
I feel you on that one, because, like,

1528
00:46:33,110 --> 00:46:34,830
every time I take from payoneer, I'm like,

1529
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,830
so you're just telling me that I have to pay

1530
00:46:36,860 --> 00:46:39,870
money to access my money. Ah, nice. Thank you.

1531
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,800
Yeah, the biggest scam ever. Geez,

1532
00:46:42,830 --> 00:46:44,070
how do I get business?

1533
00:46:44,890 --> 00:46:45,930
Oh, man.

1534
00:46:46,090 --> 00:46:46,900
But, yeah, start your

1535
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:48,750
own online banking platform.

1536
00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:50,250
Yeah, that's not hard.

1537
00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:52,000
Yeah, I feel like I may not have

1538
00:46:52,030 --> 00:46:53,570
the confidence to do that.

1539
00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:56,510
I feel like other banks are like, gangdeh, too.

1540
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,160
They'll just come around and be like, no, no,

1541
00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:59,440
we're not letting that happen.

1542
00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:01,720
Give us your money. Come on.

1543
00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:06,080
Banks are also an issue. Like, I mean,

1544
00:47:06,130 --> 00:47:07,950
if we're on topic of bank, why not?

1545
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,140
When I opened my firm in. So, in Romania,

1546
00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:12,440
because that's where I live.

1547
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:14,760
My nationality is french, right?

1548
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:15,610
But I live in Romania.

1549
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,550
I've been living here for, like,

1550
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,720
the past eight years.

1551
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:19,690
It's basically my home now. Like,

1552
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,120
I have all my friends here. Like, it's.

1553
00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:24,840
I'm just so used to being here, and

1554
00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:27,830
I wanted to open a business account, right?

1555
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Because I'm like, oh, you know, it's, it's,

1556
00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:31,040
I'm making a bit of money.

1557
00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:32,190
I probably should open the

1558
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,480
business and make that thing legal

1559
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:35,160
so I don't go to jail or something.

1560
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:39,120
So I go to, like, a notar.

1561
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:41,790
Like a notary.

1562
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,000
It's a notary.

1563
00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:45,640
So helps me open the firm and everything.

1564
00:47:45,690 --> 00:47:47,840
And then I need a business account, right? The

1565
00:47:47,850 --> 00:47:49,580
bank account for the business. I'm like, okay,

1566
00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:50,240
I'll go to, like,

1567
00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:51,780
the main bank of Romania,

1568
00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:54,380
which is Bancatlan Sylvania. And I'm like,

1569
00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:56,770
so I just show up. And I'm like, hey,

1570
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:58,970
because that was my bank at the time,

1571
00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:00,570
because that's when I first arrived to Romania.

1572
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,040
That was like the bank I use, right, for, like,

1573
00:48:02,050 --> 00:48:04,820
a personal account. I go. And I'm like, hey,

1574
00:48:04,850 --> 00:48:06,090
I'd like to open a business.

1575
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:07,260
And they're like, well,

1576
00:48:07,290 --> 00:48:08,570
if you want to open a business,

1577
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:10,230
you need to be romanian.

1578
00:48:10,270 --> 00:48:11,000
I'm like, well,

1579
00:48:11,050 --> 00:48:12,990
that's an issue because I'm not. Like,

1580
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:15,230
my nationality says I'm not romanian. Like,

1581
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:16,460
I have a residency permit,

1582
00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:18,480
but I'm not nationality.

1583
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,460
I'm not romanian. They're like, well,

1584
00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:21,190
you can't open an account. Like,

1585
00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:23,310
you'll need a romanian associate then.

1586
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:24,350
And I'm like, well,

1587
00:48:24,380 --> 00:48:26,260
that's also an issue because I work loan.

1588
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,340
You need a romanian associate?

1589
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:34,010
Yeah. So basically they put all

1590
00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:35,960
of those barriers in the way.

1591
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,380
And then so I went to another bank,

1592
00:48:37,410 --> 00:48:38,660
which is called in j,

1593
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,460
and I was like, hey,

1594
00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:41,660
I'd like to open a business account.

1595
00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:42,680
And he's like, what's your name?

1596
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:43,930
And I'm like this.

1597
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,000
And I just explained, like,

1598
00:48:45,010 --> 00:48:46,630
the whole situation that I just went through.

1599
00:48:46,750 --> 00:48:48,320
And it's like, yeah, it's no worries, man.

1600
00:48:48,330 --> 00:48:49,060
Just come back in an hour.

1601
00:48:49,090 --> 00:48:49,870
I'll do the papers.

1602
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:50,830
And I was like, okay,

1603
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:53,170
guess I'm with this bank now. So.

1604
00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:56,480
Whoa. So, so, yeah, for, for people.

1605
00:48:56,570 --> 00:48:57,890
Was it that simple, really?

1606
00:48:57,940 --> 00:48:58,770
Just, like,

1607
00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:02,170
filled out some paperwork, and, like,

1608
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,810
30 minutes later,

1609
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,870
I was out and I had a business. Wow.

1610
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:07,110
So very few people change their

1611
00:49:07,150 --> 00:49:09,430
bank account in their lifetime, though. Like,

1612
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:10,770
that's what's so interesting. Like,

1613
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,040
I read a stat about how basically,

1614
00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:14,800
if you set up account when you're a kid,

1615
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:18,070
90 or 80% of people never switch banks.

1616
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,260
And banks is one of those weird

1617
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:20,780
businesses where there's

1618
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:23,170
not a lot of, like, conscious competition.

1619
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:24,710
People just kind of surrender to the

1620
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:26,110
fact that they have their money somewhere

1621
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,760
and they stick with it forever

1622
00:49:27,890 --> 00:49:30,480
until there is such a huge issue. Like, oh,

1623
00:49:30,490 --> 00:49:31,650
I'm starting a business or this.

1624
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,360
And they start to get

1625
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:34,260
into actually using bank services,

1626
00:49:34,420 --> 00:49:36,240
and then that's where they.

1627
00:49:36,330 --> 00:49:37,960
They can lose people like that.

1628
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,730
That's like the main, like,

1629
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,720
if you want to run a business,

1630
00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:41,820
like any business,

1631
00:49:41,970 --> 00:49:43,640
usually customer acquisition

1632
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:44,540
is the most expensive

1633
00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:46,500
part compared to customer maintenance.

1634
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,260
Because if you have, like, a decent product,

1635
00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:49,790
and I mean, like this, for any business,

1636
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:51,640
be it d and d, be it, like, shirts,

1637
00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:53,210
be whatever you want to sell.

1638
00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:55,260
If people buy from you and they

1639
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:57,690
trust you enough to buy from you and

1640
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,660
you give them something that they like,

1641
00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:01,420
that they enjoy and of decent quality,

1642
00:50:01,490 --> 00:50:02,820
the chances that they come back

1643
00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:03,970
to you because they had a good

1644
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,220
experience with you is very high. So, like,

1645
00:50:06,250 --> 00:50:07,580
the cost to maintain them

1646
00:50:07,610 --> 00:50:10,150
as a customer is fairly low, whereas, like,

1647
00:50:10,180 --> 00:50:12,040
the cost to get someone to trust

1648
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,180
you enough that they're like, you know what?

1649
00:50:14,290 --> 00:50:15,920
Sure, I'll give you some of my hard

1650
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,220
earned money is a lot higher.

1651
00:50:18,310 --> 00:50:20,160
And that's why, like, banks and, like,

1652
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,140
many other companies, like,

1653
00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:22,750
spend so much money,

1654
00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:23,680
and they give you, like,

1655
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,170
you know, like, even banks, like,

1656
00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:26,590
make an account with us,

1657
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:28,580
and we'll give you, like, two, $300

1658
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:30,380
for free, right? They, like, you know, like,

1659
00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:31,150
make a new account. Like,

1660
00:50:31,180 --> 00:50:32,010
PayPal does that as well.

1661
00:50:32,020 --> 00:50:32,850
They're like, yeah, you get, like,

1662
00:50:32,860 --> 00:50:34,090
a $50 bonus if you make

1663
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:35,500
an account with us or something, because

1664
00:50:35,550 --> 00:50:38,140
customer acquisition is just that valuable,

1665
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:39,780
because they know that on the long run,

1666
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:41,860
they'll make 20 times, 30 times,

1667
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:44,340
100 times what they invested in the beginning.

1668
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,670
Hey, nerdpreneurs, we'll get back to

1669
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:50,450
this episode in just a second,

1670
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:51,980
but I wanted to let you know

1671
00:50:52,070 --> 00:50:54,160
Evan was super generous with his time.

1672
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,700
He actually spent another 50 minutes with

1673
00:50:56,730 --> 00:51:00,130
us sharing effective business strategies,

1674
00:51:00,310 --> 00:51:02,070
and we just couldn't fit it all

1675
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,400
into this public version of the episode.

1676
00:51:04,550 --> 00:51:06,880
During that 50 minutes with Evan, we

1677
00:51:06,910 --> 00:51:10,030
go over how he got so many Patreon subscribers,

1678
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:11,580
how he grew his Instagram

1679
00:51:11,630 --> 00:51:13,630
and YouTube channel from scratch,

1680
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:15,590
the principles of creating D and d

1681
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,040
content that people will actually pay for.

1682
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:20,070
A bit on email marketing,

1683
00:51:20,180 --> 00:51:22,280
he shared with us his daily routine,

1684
00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:24,700
and I asked him what advice he

1685
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:27,690
would give if he had million followers.

1686
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,160
There's so much gold in here.

1687
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1690
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,770
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1691
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1692
00:51:38,970 --> 00:51:42,600
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1693
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1703
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1704
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,130
Now let's finish

1705
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,490
off this episode with Monkey DM. So,

1706
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,850
are you nerdy about anything

1707
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:18,610
else outside your core business?

1708
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:21,030
So I have a couple nerdy passions,

1709
00:52:21,410 --> 00:52:22,950
so I waste my time.

1710
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,030
Sometimes I watch Pokemon Nuzlockes.

1711
00:52:26,140 --> 00:52:26,790
What?

1712
00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:31,890
Pokemon? Like Pokemon? Nuzlockes. So, like,

1713
00:52:31,930 --> 00:52:33,700
it's basically like you

1714
00:52:33,710 --> 00:52:36,230
play Pokemon as you regularly would, but, like,

1715
00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:37,660
if your Pokemon faints, you know,

1716
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:38,860
when it falls to zero hit points,

1717
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:40,950
it doesn't faint, it just dies.

1718
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:43,510
So you can never use that Pokemon again,

1719
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,790
and you can never catch another

1720
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,340
one of the same species. Right. So, like,

1721
00:52:46,350 --> 00:52:47,940
if you caught a Pikachu and it died,

1722
00:52:48,110 --> 00:52:49,720
you're never getting Pikachu again.

1723
00:52:49,790 --> 00:52:52,100
This is like Pokemon on Nightmare mode.

1724
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:54,290
Yeah, it's exactly, it's like Pokemon, but.

1725
00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:55,870
But it's not for kids anymore. Yeah,

1726
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,950
it's just like,

1727
00:52:57,290 --> 00:52:58,820
it's kind of the idea. And.

1728
00:52:58,870 --> 00:53:00,010
And those readers are like,

1729
00:53:00,090 --> 00:53:01,270
there's like some very good creators

1730
00:53:01,300 --> 00:53:02,950
out there on YouTube who do that.

1731
00:53:03,690 --> 00:53:05,310
And those readers, like 30, 40

1732
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,780
minutes long. And, like, sometimes, you know,

1733
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:07,860
when I'm eating or when

1734
00:53:07,870 --> 00:53:08,910
I don't want to work or something,

1735
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,390
I watch those a bit.

1736
00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:12,820
Those would be one of the things I,

1737
00:53:12,910 --> 00:53:14,270
my nerdy interests.

1738
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,100
26 years old and still watching Pokemon.

1739
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:18,140
But that's all right.

1740
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,680
I have plenty of friends that got back into

1741
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,390
playing the Game Boy version of Pokemon.

1742
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:25,130
Well, I mean, to be fair, we live in an

1743
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:26,780
amazing world because nowadays there's

1744
00:53:26,810 --> 00:53:28,570
people who are professional Pokemon players,

1745
00:53:28,660 --> 00:53:31,640
trainers. Whoa. So, you know, like, yeah,

1746
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,900
like the fucking youtubers

1747
00:53:33,950 --> 00:53:35,820
who make living out of playing Pokemon.

1748
00:53:35,890 --> 00:53:36,850
As far as I'm concerned, you're

1749
00:53:36,860 --> 00:53:38,420
a Pokemon trainer and you make a living out.

1750
00:53:38,450 --> 00:53:40,330
We'll definitely call them up for another

1751
00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:43,530
nerd perenna episode because I'm serious.

1752
00:53:43,610 --> 00:53:44,990
I want to talk to more, like,

1753
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,260
I want to talk to pro video

1754
00:53:46,310 --> 00:53:48,360
gamers or this weird niche of, like, all right,

1755
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:49,330
you're a legitimate

1756
00:53:49,410 --> 00:53:52,460
Pokemon trainer in this real, like, fake world.

1757
00:53:52,550 --> 00:53:54,950
There are so many niches that you can do now.

1758
00:53:55,020 --> 00:53:56,760
Yeah, yeah. Now with, like, the fact

1759
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:58,290
that you can document everything, basically,

1760
00:53:58,330 --> 00:53:58,940
as long as you can

1761
00:53:58,950 --> 00:54:01,800
make an entertaining video or, you know, audio,

1762
00:54:01,870 --> 00:54:03,400
whatever about the thing that you're doing,

1763
00:54:03,470 --> 00:54:04,790
people will tune in, listen,

1764
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,040
and maybe throw a couple bucks your

1765
00:54:07,050 --> 00:54:08,620
way and maybe that's enough couple of

1766
00:54:08,650 --> 00:54:10,280
bucks that you can make a living out of it,

1767
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:10,970
and that's kind of cool.

1768
00:54:11,020 --> 00:54:13,000
So other nerdy hobby. So there's like, pokemon.

1769
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:13,650
I like it out.

1770
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:17,170
And I'm a big fan of dark souls. I. So. Whoa.

1771
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,770
So I haven't ordered Elden ring.

1772
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:21,910
Okay. Okay.

1773
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:24,960
That's one question so bad. But I'm not.

1774
00:54:25,130 --> 00:54:26,440
And the reason why,

1775
00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:27,580
because if I play it,

1776
00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:28,800
I'm not gonna have a life.

1777
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:29,570
Yeah.

1778
00:54:31,830 --> 00:54:33,220
And I'm not gonna do anything else.

1779
00:54:33,250 --> 00:54:33,770
I know myself.

1780
00:54:33,820 --> 00:54:35,230
I feel played video games before.

1781
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,150
What happens is I get the game. I play, like,

1782
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,240
60 hours in, like, two days. Even

1783
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:41,560
though it's not possible, I play, like, every.

1784
00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:42,560
Every waking hour

1785
00:54:42,590 --> 00:54:44,150
of my time needs to be played.

1786
00:54:44,610 --> 00:54:46,670
So because I know I have this. This.

1787
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:48,430
This fault in me.

1788
00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:49,790
That's why I have a Mac, because

1789
00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:51,510
I can't play video games on a bloody Mac.

1790
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:53,470
They're not powerful enough. That's, like,

1791
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,070
that's why I don't have

1792
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,230
a console, because, you know, I can't.

1793
00:54:56,610 --> 00:54:57,900
Can play video games this way.

1794
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:59,190
So this way, like, don't, like,

1795
00:54:59,220 --> 00:55:01,130
waste my time and, like, die. Just, like, play

1796
00:55:01,170 --> 00:55:02,840
video games because I would fucking love it.

1797
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:03,320
Yeah.

1798
00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:04,800
Productivity tool right there.

1799
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:06,710
Just don't have the system

1800
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:08,270
powerful enough to play the games,

1801
00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:09,560
and you won't waste your time.

1802
00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:11,150
Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's like, that's

1803
00:55:11,180 --> 00:55:12,600
literally how I built it. It's like,

1804
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:13,820
because I knew, like,

1805
00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:15,200
last time I had a computer

1806
00:55:15,230 --> 00:55:16,270
I could play video games on,

1807
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:16,980
I can tell you that was

1808
00:55:16,990 --> 00:55:18,330
not a product of time at all.

1809
00:55:18,370 --> 00:55:20,650
So I got that out of my life,

1810
00:55:20,690 --> 00:55:22,020
and that's why I'm on Mac. That's, like,

1811
00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:23,350
one of the main reasons I'm on Mac.

1812
00:55:23,380 --> 00:55:24,160
It's not because I like

1813
00:55:24,190 --> 00:55:25,350
the hardware so much or something.

1814
00:55:25,380 --> 00:55:27,170
It's just I can't play video games on it.

1815
00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:28,780
I feel the same way with snack food.

1816
00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:30,060
I can control my wallet.

1817
00:55:30,110 --> 00:55:32,820
I can't control my cravings. So if I.

1818
00:55:32,910 --> 00:55:34,540
If I buy any of the

1819
00:55:34,550 --> 00:55:36,390
snack food and it's in my house,

1820
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,430
I will eat it.

1821
00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:39,930
So I stop myself at the grocery store.

1822
00:55:39,970 --> 00:55:40,810
So when I'm hungry,

1823
00:55:40,850 --> 00:55:42,270
I'm looking around, I'm like, yeah,

1824
00:55:42,570 --> 00:55:43,930
all I got is celery.

1825
00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:46,590
That's all I can eat right now. Celery. Fine,

1826
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:47,910
I'll just eat some freaking celery.

1827
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,380
And that happens to be

1828
00:55:49,470 --> 00:55:51,610
enough to get me through the night. Yeah,

1829
00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:53,030
you can control certain areas.

1830
00:55:53,060 --> 00:55:55,310
You have to know yourself well enough to know

1831
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:57,760
where you can and can't control those cravings.

1832
00:55:57,870 --> 00:55:59,270
But, like, it's like, the same with, like.

1833
00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:01,320
Like I mentioned earlier, TikTok, right? Like,

1834
00:56:01,390 --> 00:56:02,040
it's just like, you

1835
00:56:02,070 --> 00:56:03,240
turn on the app, and then, like,

1836
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:04,030
an hour is gone.

1837
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,750
Yes.

1838
00:56:05,050 --> 00:56:06,280
And then you feel like hell,

1839
00:56:06,350 --> 00:56:08,030
and you're like, okay,

1840
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:08,670
I don't like this.

1841
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:10,190
I spent way too much time.

1842
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,150
Delete the fucking app. Yeah, there you go.

1843
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,170
Fix the problem.

1844
00:56:14,290 --> 00:56:14,870
This is.

1845
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:15,580
This is actually a

1846
00:56:15,590 --> 00:56:16,710
really interesting point. There's.

1847
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:17,830
There's two trains,

1848
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:18,590
two schools of

1849
00:56:18,620 --> 00:56:20,110
thought here that we're touching on. One

1850
00:56:20,140 --> 00:56:22,640
is when you get to know yourself well enough,

1851
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:23,640
you understand which

1852
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:25,030
of these schools is best for you,

1853
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:26,270
whether you just completely

1854
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,120
obliterate the thing from your life,

1855
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,780
which I have done. Like you're saying.

1856
00:56:29,830 --> 00:56:30,710
When I was in school,

1857
00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:34,060
I totally made sure I had a poor, like,

1858
00:56:34,090 --> 00:56:36,420
a bad computer that just could do school,

1859
00:56:36,490 --> 00:56:37,950
because I knew I was the same way.

1860
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:39,040
If I gamed at all,

1861
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,140
if I could game, school would suffer.

1862
00:56:41,230 --> 00:56:42,420
So I didn't want that.

1863
00:56:42,550 --> 00:56:45,290
And then the other way of thinking is, oh,

1864
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:46,740
I will find the balance.

1865
00:56:46,910 --> 00:56:50,200
That is hard work. That is hard. But that is.

1866
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,500
That is what I pursue,

1867
00:56:51,550 --> 00:56:52,790
is to find that balance,

1868
00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:54,630
because I do love to game.

1869
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:56,500
I love to play those great games,

1870
00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:57,770
but I also know that

1871
00:56:57,780 --> 00:57:00,220
it's such a trap, and it's. It's. You know,

1872
00:57:00,230 --> 00:57:01,300
I don't think one is

1873
00:57:01,390 --> 00:57:03,680
right more than the other, necessarily.

1874
00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:04,390
I just think

1875
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:06,710
that for individual people, it might.

1876
00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:09,830
Some people are good at, like, my brother.

1877
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:12,760
Yeah, my brother, also a nerd. We, like,

1878
00:57:12,790 --> 00:57:14,320
we grew up playing Zelda together. Like,

1879
00:57:14,350 --> 00:57:15,970
we would say it in the same room.

1880
00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:17,930
He would play Zelda, I would watch,

1881
00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:19,230
and then we would alternate.

1882
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,470
That's how we bond. Right? Like,

1883
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:23,520
I love my brother to death.

1884
00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:25,270
He has very good self control. He's

1885
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:27,510
able to turn on the console, play 30 minutes,

1886
00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:28,460
and then that's it.

1887
00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:29,770
He played his 30 minutes. Whoa.

1888
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,450
Just 30 minutes? That's it.

1889
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,060
Or, like, maybe an hour, you know, like,

1890
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:34,520
whatever time he's

1891
00:57:34,570 --> 00:57:36,360
deemed is appropriate for playing games.

1892
00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:37,160
Uh huh.

1893
00:57:37,460 --> 00:57:38,920
I cannot do that.

1894
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:43,440
I am a. This. I can't pronounce,

1895
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:45,120
like the opposite of a Jedi.

1896
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:47,800
Yeah. Sith. There you go.

1897
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:49,680
Idea in absolutes,

1898
00:57:49,870 --> 00:57:53,140
meaning it's like

1899
00:57:53,180 --> 00:57:55,660
it's either all in or all out. I cannot.

1900
00:57:55,820 --> 00:57:57,000
There's no regulation.

1901
00:57:57,140 --> 00:57:58,570
It's not possible. It's just like,

1902
00:57:58,580 --> 00:58:00,180
with my business now, I work, like,

1903
00:58:00,230 --> 00:58:01,540
1012 hours a day on the business,

1904
00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:03,410
and I don't mind it. I like it. It's cool.

1905
00:58:03,460 --> 00:58:04,790
I like doing that. It's probably.

1906
00:58:04,820 --> 00:58:06,250
I go to the gym six times a week.

1907
00:58:06,260 --> 00:58:08,920
It's like it's either all in or nothing.

1908
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,020
And it's just like, my

1909
00:58:10,030 --> 00:58:12,160
personality always been like this. It's like.

1910
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,590
So I set up my life around that,

1911
00:58:14,620 --> 00:58:15,260
let's just say.

1912
00:58:15,350 --> 00:58:16,990
But that's the dream, you know,

1913
00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:20,420
working 12 hours on something that you like,

1914
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,110
and that is going in that direction.

1915
00:58:23,220 --> 00:58:25,390
So I will say this. On work,

1916
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,890
when I'm working, I'm not like, when, you know,

1917
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,540
when you're in the state. State of, like,

1918
00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:30,850
deep work, you know, like, when you've

1919
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,190
been editing for a while and you're, like,

1920
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,690
in the state of flow where it's just, like,

1921
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,650
coming out of you.

1922
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,390
You're not even thinking, really.

1923
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,130
You're just. It's like, time is passing,

1924
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,770
but you're not, like, putting any value,

1925
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,860
judgmental value on it. It's just happening.

1926
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:43,730
And I think that's, like,

1927
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,530
the best state to be in. It's like,

1928
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,730
a lot of people, like, have this, like,

1929
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,760
you know, like, internal judgment, oh,

1930
00:58:47,770 --> 00:58:48,420
I should be doing this,

1931
00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:49,040
should be doing that.

1932
00:58:49,070 --> 00:58:50,950
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When I'm

1933
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,950
at the gym lifting, for example, that's, like,

1934
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:53,940
the easiest way

1935
00:58:53,980 --> 00:58:55,420
for me to get in the zone is, like,

1936
00:58:55,460 --> 00:58:56,700
I'm just lifting. I'm not, like,

1937
00:58:56,740 --> 00:58:57,800
thinking of anything else.

1938
00:58:57,890 --> 00:58:58,670
I'm not thinking. I'm

1939
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,090
not putting a value judgment on the lifting.

1940
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,870
I'm just doing the thing. And same with, like,

1941
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,300
I managed to get in a state of, like,

1942
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:07,070
good work. I just work. That's it.

1943
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,470
There's no judgments. Not good. It's not bad.

1944
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,550
But at the end of the day,

1945
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:11,280
when I finished my day,

1946
00:59:11,310 --> 00:59:12,720
I feel like it was meaningful.

1947
00:59:12,790 --> 00:59:14,600
And I think enjoy is not the right term,

1948
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:15,810
is what I would say. You know,

1949
00:59:15,940 --> 00:59:16,970
because it's like,

1950
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:19,220
I don't not enjoy it. It's

1951
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:21,770
not like I enjoy it either. It just happens.

1952
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,040
It's like this very flowing kind

1953
00:59:24,050 --> 00:59:26,090
of thing where you just. There's no judgment.

1954
00:59:26,140 --> 00:59:27,190
There's no thinking happening.

1955
00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:27,980
It's just the work.

1956
00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:29,170
And I think that's

1957
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,450
where I'm at my most satisfied, I would say.

1958
00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:33,260
I love that.

1959
00:59:33,370 --> 00:59:36,710
So this next section is called random rolls.

1960
00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:38,290
So these are less serious,

1961
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,770
more fun kind of questions.

1962
00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:41,700
So we're going to do three rolls,

1963
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,370
and then we'll ask you the questions,

1964
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,330
depending on what those numbers are. Go for it.

1965
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,460
72.

1966
00:59:46,620 --> 00:59:47,740
72.

1967
00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:48,350
Oh.

1968
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,560
Oh, this is perfect for you. What is

1969
00:59:50,590 --> 00:59:53,070
your stance on min maxing your characters?

1970
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,360
Does it take away or add to the fun?

1971
00:59:57,140 --> 00:59:58,800
It depends on your d. No min maxing.

1972
00:59:58,830 --> 01:00:00,850
No optimizing, I would say, adds the fun. Min

1973
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,050
maxing probably detracts from it because, like,

1974
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:03,730
there's only so

1975
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,490
many min Max characters. You know? Like,

1976
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,460
there's only so many, like, broken characters.

1977
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:09,380
Like, it's like, a very, like, few, like,

1978
01:00:09,460 --> 01:00:10,820
specific combos of characters

1979
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:12,200
which are actually broken, and, like,

1980
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:13,560
the other ones can be fun,

1981
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:14,840
can become strong, and, like,

1982
01:00:14,890 --> 01:00:16,460
making them more strong is probably more fun.

1983
01:00:16,540 --> 01:00:17,350
But there's, like, definitely, like,

1984
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,570
a breaking point, I would say,

1985
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,720
where it's just like, yeah,

1986
01:00:19,770 --> 01:00:21,730
we've all seen, like, a Sherlock or, like,

1987
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,640
a Hexblade paladin or, you know, like,

1988
01:00:23,690 --> 01:00:24,800
we've all seen those.

1989
01:00:24,930 --> 01:00:27,080
It's. Yeah, you can get creative,

1990
01:00:27,110 --> 01:00:28,920
but we've all seen the build, so, you know,

1991
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:30,400
it's get something else going, I guess,

1992
01:00:30,450 --> 01:00:32,860
is my thinking on this one.

1993
01:00:32,980 --> 01:00:34,170
Go ahead and roll again.

1994
01:00:34,340 --> 01:00:35,250
100.

1995
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:38,510
Oh, that's my choice. How about this?

1996
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:41,090
If you had all of Jeff Bezos money,

1997
01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:42,310
what would you do with it?

1998
01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:44,040
If I had all of Jeff,

1999
01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:46,060
there's so much money that's, like, more than

2000
01:00:46,090 --> 01:00:48,490
an ancient gold dragon, man. Like, legit, like,

2001
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,330
by the math, like,

2002
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:51,410
what's written in the book, it's more.

2003
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:53,010
I can't even fathom

2004
01:00:53,060 --> 01:00:56,510
that much money. Probably, like, take, like,

2005
01:00:56,670 --> 01:00:57,960
20 million for myself

2006
01:00:58,050 --> 01:01:00,000
and give the rest to charities,

2007
01:01:00,050 --> 01:01:02,130
which I know are doing good because, I mean,

2008
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:02,680
I guess that's my

2009
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:03,850
experience with the romanian government.

2010
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,610
But a lot of charities do a lot of very

2011
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,800
good things and are very transparent

2012
01:01:06,830 --> 01:01:09,030
with how they spend money. In Romania,

2013
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,480
the government doesn't even

2014
01:01:10,510 --> 01:01:11,670
have a sheet where the money goes.

2015
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,500
So, like, for all we know, it may be

2016
01:01:13,550 --> 01:01:15,230
going in the politicians pocket. So, you know,

2017
01:01:15,260 --> 01:01:15,770
give it to, like,

2018
01:01:15,810 --> 01:01:16,910
some nice charities who are doing

2019
01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:19,370
good work around the world. Probably my answer.

2020
01:01:19,410 --> 01:01:20,620
And keep a big chunk of it

2021
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:21,910
for me because I'm selfish like that.

2022
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,470
Hey, if it's your money,

2023
01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:24,800
it's so much money, man.

2024
01:01:24,830 --> 01:01:27,510
Like, I don't even know if 20 million is. Like,

2025
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:28,570
he would even realize

2026
01:01:28,610 --> 01:01:29,750
it's gone from his account.

2027
01:01:30,730 --> 01:01:32,820
If you had all the money in JBL, Jeff Bezos,

2028
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:34,460
you could take a billion dollars

2029
01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:35,920
and just put it in an account,

2030
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:36,710
and that would be it.

2031
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:38,560
And then literally spend all

2032
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,790
the other money to do whatever you want,

2033
01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:42,340
and you probably would still have, like,

2034
01:01:42,370 --> 01:01:43,880
4 billion left over after

2035
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,820
you've given everyone in the world money.

2036
01:01:45,850 --> 01:01:49,910
Or there is something to be said. I've had.

2037
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,250
I was a broke student.

2038
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:53,100
I've been a broke student before. You know,

2039
01:01:53,130 --> 01:01:54,140
it's like you. It's like,

2040
01:01:54,170 --> 01:01:55,760
do I get a coffee with my friends

2041
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,840
or do I have dinner tonight? It's, you know,

2042
01:01:57,910 --> 01:02:00,240
this is the question. I've been there.

2043
01:02:00,370 --> 01:02:02,360
I didn't give much back then

2044
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:04,730
because I didn't have the money to give.

2045
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,480
And now that I have more money, I do

2046
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:08,640
donate to charities and stuff, and I do, like,

2047
01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:10,840
helping with the extra money I have.

2048
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:12,330
So I would say, like,

2049
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,220
if you're struggling with money,

2050
01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:14,640
get your life in order,

2051
01:02:14,670 --> 01:02:15,930
and then you can start helping people.

2052
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,570
Just like, you know, if a plane crashes,

2053
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,510
get yourself first and

2054
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,960
then help the person next to you.

2055
01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:21,020
I love that topic,

2056
01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:22,760
but we're not going to dive into it.

2057
01:02:22,790 --> 01:02:23,310
But I very

2058
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,940
much agree on many levels. Okay, last roll.

2059
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,700
I love rolling myself.

2060
01:02:28,730 --> 01:02:33,940
It's been so long since I rolled some d 125.

2061
01:02:34,110 --> 01:02:36,300
Huh. This, um. We haven't

2062
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:37,380
asked this one before,

2063
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,070
and I'm curious if this will apply,

2064
01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:44,100
but what was your best science fair project?

2065
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,990
Did you have science fairs in your schools?

2066
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:47,240
Yeah.

2067
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:47,540
Yeah.

2068
01:02:47,590 --> 01:02:47,900
Okay.

2069
01:02:47,950 --> 01:02:51,580
Yeah. Yeah, we did. We did a Faraday cage.

2070
01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:52,260
What?

2071
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:55,350
Faraday cage. So, basically, it's like,

2072
01:02:55,470 --> 01:02:56,410
it's a funny thing.

2073
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,190
It's like a cage where basically,

2074
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:59,110
if you shoot lightning

2075
01:02:59,150 --> 01:03:00,220
into it and you're inside the cage,

2076
01:03:00,250 --> 01:03:01,570
you're actually protected from the lightning,

2077
01:03:01,620 --> 01:03:03,290
even though the cage is made of metal.

2078
01:03:04,510 --> 01:03:06,570
Yeah, yeah. It's like, because of, like,

2079
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,310
I can't remember exactly the formula.

2080
01:03:08,350 --> 01:03:09,880
I was young lad, and

2081
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:11,530
we didn't actually put someone in it. It was.

2082
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:12,690
It was like a.

2083
01:03:13,070 --> 01:03:15,530
It was a probe, basically, that was, like,

2084
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:16,490
put inside to

2085
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,810
record if it get any electricity. Right.

2086
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:20,930
And then we had, like,

2087
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:21,670
the thing that was, like,

2088
01:03:21,740 --> 01:03:23,500
blew the lightning, and.

2089
01:03:23,590 --> 01:03:24,590
And we built the cage,

2090
01:03:24,660 --> 01:03:26,130
and basically, like, it worked. Like,

2091
01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:27,700
the probe didn't get any lightning

2092
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,460
or maybe contact with him. Just.

2093
01:03:30,530 --> 01:03:31,940
I don't know. It worked.

2094
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,940
It's gonna be worked, but, yeah, so, basically,

2095
01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:37,060
you build this cage, which is, like,

2096
01:03:37,090 --> 01:03:37,820
made of iron.

2097
01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:38,980
So you put that basically,

2098
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:40,610
around the probe, and you make, like,

2099
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:41,780
a small cage out of it.

2100
01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:43,760
Put the probe in the middle with the lightning,

2101
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,570
and the probe is protected, and basically,

2102
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:46,890
you can expand that to, actually,

2103
01:03:46,940 --> 01:03:49,290
humans put them in that cage, and

2104
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:51,120
it protects them from lightning. For example,

2105
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,200
the Faraday cage

2106
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,960
that we all know is an airplane,

2107
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,810
meaning that the lightning

2108
01:03:55,860 --> 01:03:58,110
touches the plane is exited at, like,

2109
01:03:58,140 --> 01:03:59,290
the other end of the plane.

2110
01:03:59,380 --> 01:03:59,890
People inside

2111
01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:02,960
the plane are not affected by it. So, like,

2112
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,500
that's the idea behind a Faraday cage.

2113
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,950
Oh, that's really cool.

2114
01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:08,120
I didn't know about this.

2115
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,190
I just learned something new. Thank you.

2116
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:11,750
Yeah, there you go. No, I was.

2117
01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:13,130
Because I know, like,

2118
01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:13,940
a lot of people have, like,

2119
01:04:13,970 --> 01:04:15,950
the business story of I was bad in school,

2120
01:04:16,030 --> 01:04:18,810
and school wasn't for me, and, you know, I.

2121
01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:20,610
So I made the business. I was like,

2122
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:23,210
I was great in school. I did medicine,

2123
01:04:24,190 --> 01:04:26,170
so I liked school.

2124
01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:27,050
I was pretty good at it.

2125
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,550
But you didn't have that problem.

2126
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:29,880
Stumbled into this business

2127
01:04:29,930 --> 01:04:31,770
thing despite all that education.

2128
01:04:32,830 --> 01:04:33,300
Yeah.

2129
01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:33,730
Yeah.

2130
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,900
So let's do our rapid fires, because I.

2131
01:04:38,060 --> 01:04:40,240
Yes. So the rapid fires, quick questions.

2132
01:04:40,270 --> 01:04:41,450
They're just a couple words,

2133
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,590
and your answers can be just a couple words,

2134
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,740
unless they sound wrong or weird.

2135
01:04:45,780 --> 01:04:47,630
Then we'll make you go into more detail.

2136
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,480
Sure.

2137
01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:50,240
All right, first one.

2138
01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:52,040
Star Trek or Star Wars?

2139
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:52,950
Star wars.

2140
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,520
Not the new series, though.

2141
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:56,840
That's so consistent. Like, we keep.

2142
01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:58,800
So many people say, yeah, it's.

2143
01:04:58,950 --> 01:04:59,680
Do you not like

2144
01:04:59,710 --> 01:05:01,920
Star Trek or Star Trek still? Okay.

2145
01:05:02,110 --> 01:05:04,080
The new Star Trek is absolutely horrendous.

2146
01:05:04,780 --> 01:05:07,870
Now, new Star Trek tv shows or movies?

2147
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:08,770
I like.

2148
01:05:08,860 --> 01:05:10,010
I tried to watch the shows.

2149
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,560
I couldn't get them.

2150
01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,530
One episode in. I just, like, cringed.

2151
01:05:12,660 --> 01:05:14,870
And the movies, well, I stuck.

2152
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:15,690
I was in the cinema,

2153
01:05:15,740 --> 01:05:16,510
so I was stuck in there.

2154
01:05:16,550 --> 01:05:19,210
But it was not that bad. The movies, I guess,

2155
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,580
but it was not that great either, compared

2156
01:05:20,610 --> 01:05:22,770
to the old ones. That's my opinion. But, yeah.

2157
01:05:22,860 --> 01:05:25,070
Okay, well, I think you're wrong.

2158
01:05:25,150 --> 01:05:29,050
And discovery has gotten really good. So. Yeah.

2159
01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:29,970
That's all I'll say.

2160
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,450
Sure, sure. I'll take it.

2161
01:05:31,580 --> 01:05:33,450
Who was the best Spider man actor?

2162
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,740
I really like the latest one. What's his name?

2163
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,860
Holland.

2164
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,070
Holland. I like him. I feel

2165
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:42,420
like he's young spider man. Like,

2166
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:43,540
he definitely gets the vibe.

2167
01:05:43,570 --> 01:05:44,570
I didn't watch the latest one,

2168
01:05:44,580 --> 01:05:46,270
like the multiverse,

2169
01:05:46,460 --> 01:05:48,180
like the three.

2170
01:05:48,270 --> 01:05:49,300
And I want to watch it.

2171
01:05:49,350 --> 01:05:50,820
I haven't had the opportunity yet.

2172
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:52,960
What are your three favorite pizza toppings?

2173
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,780
I like chorizo

2174
01:05:59,490 --> 01:06:04,150
olives. Go great on pizza. And then mushrooms.

2175
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,190
Let's just go with mushrooms.

2176
01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:06,310
Mushrooms are a great topic.

2177
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:07,600
I am curious about one thing,

2178
01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:08,650
because we talked to someone

2179
01:06:08,730 --> 01:06:12,150
and they said that in Romania,

2180
01:06:12,570 --> 01:06:15,190
corn on pizza is a thing.

2181
01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:17,440
Yeah, it is. I.

2182
01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:18,170
Okay.

2183
01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:18,590
All right.

2184
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:19,710
I just wanted to.

2185
01:06:20,010 --> 01:06:21,100
You want to know?

2186
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:22,710
So I'll tell you a little

2187
01:06:23,170 --> 01:06:25,070
quick tangent on romanian pizza.

2188
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,590
So tomato sauce is expensive.

2189
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:28,260
So usually they don't use tomato sauce.

2190
01:06:28,270 --> 01:06:29,040
They use ketchup.

2191
01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:30,590
First of all, big red flag, right?

2192
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,350
Or they put a bit of tomato sauce,

2193
01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:33,440
but then they use, like,

2194
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:34,600
sauces next to the pizza,

2195
01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:36,520
which they dip the pizza in. Instead of, like,

2196
01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:37,870
just eating, like, regular pizza,

2197
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:39,110
they dip the pizza in sauce.

2198
01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:40,470
I don't like doing that.

2199
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,670
I hate that they do that,

2200
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,190
but they don't put enough sauce in the pizza.

2201
01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:44,520
So sometimes you have to do it.

2202
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:45,860
I'm not a particularly big fan of it,

2203
01:06:45,870 --> 01:06:46,430
but now I found

2204
01:06:46,460 --> 01:06:48,380
an appalachian pizza in town. It's great.

2205
01:06:48,430 --> 01:06:50,150
I only take pizza from there, and

2206
01:06:50,260 --> 01:06:52,180
they sometimes put corn because, I don't know,

2207
01:06:52,190 --> 01:06:53,990
they're the spawns of Satan or something.

2208
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:56,780
I'm glad to hear that was real.

2209
01:06:56,830 --> 01:06:59,670
But, yeah, I. Yeah, they fall

2210
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:01,940
on the chaotic evil spectrum. In that vein,

2211
01:07:02,030 --> 01:07:03,700
would you prefer to use

2212
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:06,140
orcs or gnolls in your adventure?

2213
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,110
I prefer orcs because

2214
01:07:08,140 --> 01:07:10,490
there are more humans like gnolls.

2215
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:11,210
If you use gnolls,

2216
01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:12,570
they're purely monsters. With orcs.

2217
01:07:12,580 --> 01:07:13,870
You can more fun

2218
01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:15,650
messed up stuff to your players, because

2219
01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:17,460
I'm a big fan of dark fantasy and making

2220
01:07:17,530 --> 01:07:20,900
people think twice on their action. So orcs.

2221
01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:21,260
Nice.

2222
01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:21,720
Yeah.

2223
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:22,060
Yeah.

2224
01:07:22,090 --> 01:07:24,220
How many cats is too many cats?

2225
01:07:25,310 --> 01:07:26,010
One.

2226
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,890
Cool.

2227
01:07:27,830 --> 01:07:28,760
Okay.

2228
01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:30,450
Laser tag or paintball?

2229
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:32,490
Never tried paintball,

2230
01:07:32,830 --> 01:07:33,930
so I'll go laser tag.

2231
01:07:33,980 --> 01:07:34,830
But I heard it's awesome,

2232
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:35,560
so I really want to try it.

2233
01:07:35,570 --> 01:07:37,030
One day I'm in that boat

2234
01:07:37,110 --> 01:07:39,170
and then the last one on my end.

2235
01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:41,890
Are you a fan of hot weather or cold weather?

2236
01:07:43,070 --> 01:07:44,310
I like both, actually,

2237
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:46,010
as a matter of fact, cold

2238
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,520
weather because sometimes it's nice and cozy.

2239
01:07:47,530 --> 01:07:48,460
It's snuggle inside.

2240
01:07:48,570 --> 01:07:49,740
So I'll say cold weather when

2241
01:07:49,770 --> 01:07:51,450
you have an inside to go to because, you know,

2242
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:56,610
obviously warm weather is nice,

2243
01:07:56,690 --> 01:07:59,510
but I sweat, so, you know,

2244
01:07:59,540 --> 01:08:01,150
that's not so nice, I guess.

2245
01:08:02,090 --> 01:08:02,910
Yeah.

2246
01:08:03,650 --> 01:08:04,700
I like warm weather, though,

2247
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:05,480
because you can go to the beach.

2248
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:07,280
And I like cold weather because skiing

2249
01:08:07,310 --> 01:08:08,960
is something I did when I was growing up.

2250
01:08:08,990 --> 01:08:11,090
I was very lucky to have the chance to do that.

2251
01:08:11,250 --> 01:08:14,830
And I can even do backflips now. Hey.

2252
01:08:16,210 --> 01:08:18,800
But I love skiing, so, like,

2253
01:08:18,830 --> 01:08:21,620
I like cold weather for the snow and because,

2254
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,399
let's be honest,

2255
01:08:22,450 --> 01:08:24,050
romanian cities are not very pretty.

2256
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,490
It's like all soviet bloc.

2257
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,620
They look ugly as hell.

2258
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:28,149
And when everything is covered in snow,

2259
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,300
it looks a lot nicer.

2260
01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:30,380
And we have a lot of snow here,

2261
01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:32,529
so that's something I like about it.

2262
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,450
My last one,

2263
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,990
I think will be what would be

2264
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,120
your zombie apocalypse weapon of choice.

2265
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:38,880
I did not think that

2266
01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:40,020
went through before the interview.

2267
01:08:40,060 --> 01:08:41,240
I'll let you know that much.

2268
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:46,640
So I remember watching a video

2269
01:08:46,750 --> 01:08:48,109
a long time ago that it was better to

2270
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,560
have an axe than a gun because

2271
01:08:50,569 --> 01:08:52,290
it was a lot harder to find. Especially here,

2272
01:08:52,340 --> 01:08:54,930
we don't have guns to find ammo and stuff,

2273
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,399
so I guess an axe is

2274
01:08:56,450 --> 01:08:59,170
nice or otherwise I'll just take, like,

2275
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,930
a couple of tactical nukes and just, like,

2276
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,950
wipe the planet out, maybe. Don't stop. Yes.

2277
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:05,350
I feel like those are hanging

2278
01:09:05,390 --> 01:09:07,330
around a lot more in the eastern

2279
01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:09,750
Europe than they are in Canada. Yeah.

2280
01:09:09,790 --> 01:09:11,200
Yeah, we have. We have

2281
01:09:11,210 --> 01:09:13,109
a couple around here. Yeah, we definitely do.

2282
01:09:13,229 --> 01:09:14,170
We do too.

2283
01:09:14,790 --> 01:09:16,680
Yeah. In the US you have maybe a couple more,

2284
01:09:16,729 --> 01:09:18,390
I would say, actually, I.

2285
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:19,029
Always thought Canada

2286
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:20,550
would be awful for an apocalypse.

2287
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,569
We have no guns.

2288
01:09:21,649 --> 01:09:22,890
We'd just be taking our hockey

2289
01:09:22,930 --> 01:09:24,450
sticks and hockey skates and trying

2290
01:09:24,490 --> 01:09:26,750
to kill people with that or knock off.

2291
01:09:27,050 --> 01:09:27,750
Like, the zombies

2292
01:09:27,779 --> 01:09:28,870
would be like, extremely, like,

2293
01:09:28,899 --> 01:09:30,000
especially if it's winter. Like,

2294
01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:30,760
the zombie would be, like,

2295
01:09:30,790 --> 01:09:32,069
very slow in the snow and stuff.

2296
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:33,310
That is the benefit, actually. We

2297
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:36,270
think that we should a canadian zombie movie,

2298
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:37,439
because it would very different

2299
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:39,229
circumstances as soon as winter hits,

2300
01:09:39,260 --> 01:09:40,069
because there'd be, like,

2301
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,270
zombies wandering through snow. But also,

2302
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:43,479
if you're wandering through the snow,

2303
01:09:43,580 --> 01:09:45,279
might step on a zombie,

2304
01:09:45,370 --> 01:09:46,850
which would be a totally other

2305
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,800
terrifying side to it is just like, I don't.

2306
01:09:49,810 --> 01:09:51,359
Know, it's like, like the whole, like,

2307
01:09:51,450 --> 01:09:52,630
the physiology behind

2308
01:09:52,670 --> 01:09:54,050
zombies is very strange because, like,

2309
01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:56,120
if it's that cold outside and, like, zombies

2310
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,640
are barely ever closed, right? So, like,

2311
01:09:57,690 --> 01:09:58,600
they would just freeze.

2312
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,730
They don't have internal heat to produce.

2313
01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:04,420
They would just, like, freeze. There's no way.

2314
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:07,850
Yeah. Also the prairies, like, the vast

2315
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,720
tracks of land in Canada where there's a.

2316
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:12,360
That's true.

2317
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:14,050
Just set yourself up there

2318
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,970
and if they see, if they come, I don't know,

2319
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,080
just ride a moose into the distance.

2320
01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:21,000
Nice one.

2321
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:23,000
That's a good canadian stereotype.

2322
01:10:25,620 --> 01:10:28,080
View from a very ignorant perspective.

2323
01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:31,650
You could love that kind of stereotype.

2324
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,770
Isn't that how you guys go to work, like that?

2325
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,460
That's what I heard.

2326
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:36,480
Well, yeah. Once I get outside of my igloo,

2327
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:37,440
I wind up.

2328
01:10:37,570 --> 01:10:42,330
I have to tie my mousse up. Well,

2329
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,230
where can people find you, monkey DM?

2330
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:44,870
How could we,

2331
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,160
how can we support you?

2332
01:10:46,190 --> 01:10:47,250
Where can people find you

2333
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,880
and potentially even support you?

2334
01:10:49,970 --> 01:10:52,200
Okay, so I'm getting

2335
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:53,430
plenty of support at the moment, but

2336
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,170
if you want some cooled in stuff that's free,

2337
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,650
you can go on r Monkey Dm. It's on Reddit,

2338
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,530
Reddit r monkey dm.

2339
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,210
All my free stuff is there. It's very

2340
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,000
easy to sort go on my website, monkeydm.com,

2341
01:11:05,090 --> 01:11:06,750
you'll get. There's like, free adventures,

2342
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,030
free homebrew Monsters.

2343
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,200
Right now we're having an encounter Generator

2344
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:12,660
that's been created where you can, like,

2345
01:11:12,740 --> 01:11:14,770
Generate Encounters by, like,

2346
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,650
the Generated specifically

2347
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,570
for your party level and

2348
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,600
everything with all the free stuff. So, like,

2349
01:11:19,630 --> 01:11:22,290
it's quite helpful. Wow.

2350
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:24,110
If you want to introduce someone,

2351
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,520
like a loved one or a friend or family member,

2352
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:28,490
we've got one on one adventures all for free.

2353
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,790
So, like, feel free to go get those stuff.

2354
01:11:30,970 --> 01:11:33,720
And I have a Patreon, but, you know,

2355
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:34,550
get the free stuff first

2356
01:11:34,590 --> 01:11:35,760
and get a touch for yourself.

2357
01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:37,050
See if you like it.

2358
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,110
I actually need

2359
01:11:38,150 --> 01:11:40,050
those one on one adventures. My girlfriend,

2360
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,690
she wants to learn so she can interact with the

2361
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,710
kids that she teaches that are fans of it.

2362
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:46,340
That's.

2363
01:11:46,490 --> 01:11:47,520
I didn't know that was a thing.

2364
01:11:47,570 --> 01:11:50,700
Yeah, it's free on my website. It's called

2365
01:11:50,770 --> 01:11:53,730
workshop of wondrous war machines, I believe.

2366
01:11:54,270 --> 01:11:55,720
Oh, nice. I love alliteration.

2367
01:11:55,770 --> 01:11:58,560
It's a bit Eberron ish, but

2368
01:11:58,570 --> 01:11:59,970
it's a one on one adventure. It's very nice.

2369
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,860
You get little robot buddy, and it's.

2370
01:12:02,940 --> 01:12:04,200
I like it. It's a fun adventure.

2371
01:12:04,290 --> 01:12:04,930
Perfect.

2372
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:05,870
So cool.

2373
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,490
Oh, and your social media handles.

2374
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,430
Oh, right, right, right.

2375
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:09,930
I have YouTube monkey DM,

2376
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,260
and I have Instagram monkey DM. Yeah.

2377
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:13,480
And I have TikTok monkey dM.

2378
01:12:13,530 --> 01:12:14,990
But delete TikTok from your phone,

2379
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,310
probably do yourself some good.

2380
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,200
I just did that in our conversation.

2381
01:12:18,270 --> 01:12:19,380
I was like, oh, my God,

2382
01:12:19,420 --> 01:12:20,960
I need to get rid of this right now.

2383
01:12:20,990 --> 01:12:22,640
I don't even use it anymore.

2384
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:23,310
Yeah.

2385
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,740
How did you come up with monkey DM? Is that.

2386
01:12:25,820 --> 01:12:27,130
It's actually. There's, like.

2387
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,520
So it's a double layer thing.

2388
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,160
So had a partner

2389
01:12:32,230 --> 01:12:35,190
who called me monkey a lot. So that was.

2390
01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:36,690
That was one of the reasons.

2391
01:12:36,810 --> 01:12:39,290
Another one is my family name is Moscato,

2392
01:12:39,450 --> 01:12:41,300
and I'm an MD. Like,

2393
01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:44,640
a medical doctor. Right. So mdm, monkey DM.

2394
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:46,820
Wow. Layers. Love that.

2395
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:49,110
Oh, my gosh.

2396
01:12:49,530 --> 01:12:51,420
And also, you know, like, DM's in.

2397
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:52,050
Dodge Master,

2398
01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:54,710
so it was like, it's totally synchronous.

2399
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:56,350
It works together. That's awesome.

2400
01:12:56,450 --> 01:12:58,260
Yeah, and people like monkeys,

2401
01:12:58,330 --> 01:12:59,640
so that's a good.

2402
01:12:59,690 --> 01:13:00,530
I love that.

2403
01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:03,290
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