Hey all, I am Frank, and today I'm joined by squeaks.
Let's go with it. Oh, man. That's crazy.
We have a lot to talk about today.
Primarily, we have a Spider-Man trailer, a Dune trailer, and we have, Daredevil
Born Again season two starting out the day this episode releases.
So we're going to do a little pre gaming for that.
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I probably have a
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So. Yeah.
Yeah, I know everybody's been so busy lately.
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Let's get into the news.
We're going to be starting off with reacting to these trailers.
Now, let's kick things off with Spider-Man, Brave New World.
You had a chance to watch the trailer a few times.
Did you catch anything that really piqued your interest?
Actually, something very subtle.
And I'm actually getting a name for it now.
So on Daredevil, the last season, we had, kingpin,
but we had the female that worked very closely with her.
With him. I'm sorry.
Okay, so in the parts of the trailer where Spider-Man
is getting handed the key to the city, do you recognize who's getting the key?
That's the key.
That's like a sister or whatever.
Like, oh. Here we go. Bringing it to you. Right?
It is a good catch. Yeah. So, catching that.
So it's like.
Okay, well, what, I kind of want to see that
transition, like, what's going on, because we got to keep
is the Daredevil season two.
Where is that taking place with this?
If King or Kingpin fall, she kind of rises type thing.
But what are the rules?
So I'm really interested in that and seeing what they have.
Good Spider-Man takes place after this and that's a really good catch, know,
because that means this is not probably not mayor at the time.
Very interesting.
Imagine if Fisk was handing that key over instead of her.
That's been pretty cool.
To lose my damn mind. Yeah.
Wow. What is, Do you know how much I over analyze that trailer?
I did not catch that very simple thing.
Sure.
But, yeah, anything that I also really like caught my eye.
A scorpion, I think, is one thing that we're bringing characters back.
Like the last Spider-Man movie. And.
Yeah, I give back.
Is there anything that really, was hidden that you guys can.
Like you said, you analyze this a lot,
and I know you always bringing in things to me.
So what did you catch?
There's going to be one big thing that we're going to break down.
But let's talk about some of the themes that we're seeing.
He's isolated. He's alone.
So again, nobody knows who he is anymore.
After the, Doctor Strange move.
And so we're seeing him very much alone.
And I think a lot of people, you know, they wanted a grounded spider man.
But we're also kind of getting this isolated Spider-Man as well,
which I think a lot of people can relate to.
And then his body's changing again.
He's he's mutating again. And we hear about the. The.
Case of the spider.
So this could be leading to the man spider story.
Do you think Marvel do you think MCU would go man spider?
I don't know, I think we're going to stop it beforehand.
I don't think it's going to be something.
I think we'll get a glimpse of it right,
and then it'll be shut down pretty quickly.
I do like that we're doing this advanced bit with the spider man
and seeing, like a new chapter in his life of being spider man.
And honestly, I love, when we kind of
just had Tobey Maguire without the web shooters.
You know, I'm a. Big fan of the organic.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
So I definitely, excited to see when he was on.
What was he, like, sleeping in his in the web.
And he started falling for the building, and he had nothing on it.
Then he like. Yeah. Oh, there you go. Yeah.
Well, and in it.
Was a comic book run that was started after Tobey Maguire,
Spider-Man that gave him, you know, the organic web shooters.
It also gave him a few of the perks.
It was kind of the same thing that we're getting here.
He was able to feel tension in his spider webs to know when people were at,
It gave him some enhanced abilities.
I, I think it was like.
Like it would smell better or something like that.
So we could just be getting, like a new level of Spiderman as well,
which I think is very cool, because then if we bring in Miles Morales
in the future, who has electric abilities,
who will eventually have electric abilities,
then it kind of further pushes them separate as like, oh,
they're two different kinds of Spiderman.
And I think that's really cool to kind of give Peter Parker
a unique set of abilities here.
Yeah.
MJ and Ned, they're separate, but he's clearly stalking them
because at one point we hear that that Peter is the neighbor to Ned.
So did he just, like, get the apartment across the hallway from Ned
on him?
Like, yes.
I was like, don't build this for, friendship again that he, used.
They have.
That is funny. That is funny.
And that seems like that's, something that's going to be, I don't want to say,
the emo, like, in Spider-Man three, right? What's up? Maguire?
Number 42.
So it's like we're seeing that in a different way in a more,
obviously depressing, factor than it was like that
whole, you know, dancing in the stream of, like, more realistic.
Yeah.
Because, like, emo.
Emo Tobey. Maguire was so. Weird.
It was like, dude, what the hell?
So yeah, this feels more natural.
And then we got the whole.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
So you kind of corrected me, but I still, Because.
So we we see Hulk, he's in the classroom.
He has this thing on his arm, and,
you know, you brought it to my attention that it was
because of his arm, you know, shattered from whatever Infinity War or whatnot.
I took it instantly.
I was like, oh, maybe this is a device that's keeping him back to normal.
So, yeah.
Smash that.
So how do you do you have a prediction?
I know we talked about a little bit.
Do you have a prediction of how he kind of got himself
back together, or do you think it was just some scientific that he found out in.
Okay, cool.
When we do see that brace, there is like a green element on there.
So there could be like two things. Yeah. Right.
It could definitely be helping him keep separated.
I had to imagine that it's because he snapped his fingers,
as you know, and did the infinity gantlet with his fingers and messed up its arm.
Yeah.
But yeah, I there's a couple things he's been working with.
Wong and Wong has magic, so maybe there's a magical element to this.
But also we saw in She-Hulk that he's into meditating now.
So maybe through meditating, he has learned a way
to separate themselves.
I just happened to see them separated because I think that Smart Hulk was,
was a miscalculation by MCU's decision making board.
And this is a good move.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
To have just Hulk not smash things and Crane
complaining about smashing things was just the most ridiculous thing ever.
Yeah, of characters though, obviously.
Right.
Hopefully this is not a toned down version PG but Punisher this thing.
Yeah, yeah. Punishment is Spider-Man together.
About time.
Bad time. This feels like a more mature Spider-Man.
I don't think he's going to be very toned down.
I mean, it definitely looks like they're shooting at each other and stuff.
So I'm excited to see Punisher involved.
Yeah, and we're getting a lot more villains.
So we had some, you know, comic book covers that they showed,
we had a Tommy Phahlane cover. Yeah.
We had a Todd McFarlane cover.
We had the original, amazing Spider-Man are not amazing stories.
Whatever it was cover
a couple of them, and then one of them had, Boomerang in there,
some classic villains.
So it was kind of.
That's what I like.
I like, things to build on for so long.
I was like, oh, right.
I when I think of Boomerang, I think DC so the.
Cover where he's like sliding across the side there, that's, tarantula.
He's fighting like.
So we're at a point now where Peter Parker has been fighting for years
against his rogues gallery.
It's not just like in finding new bad guys anymore.
This is the bad guys. He's fighting all the time.
And that that feels like video game Spider-Man or like, you know,
actual comic book Spider-Man that you get to do, you know, naturally.
Because.
Lastly, here's the thing I really want to play.
Oh, oh, first off, city scene, we see this is where the jackets do we see them?
Yes. The person with their back to us in the big jacket.
That city I we see here on the same jacket.
So much so. You see your chain down to a chair.
That's her as well.
I got to be positive about that. Like you got that company.
It's a woman in there wearing the same sleeves as that jacket.
Presumably it is that jacket. Okay. Way.
We have seen city wear that jacket.
So there is one, like, comic book panel by an X-Men artist
that does show Jean gray wearing a very similar jacket.
So this could be what I'm.
That's been Jean gray. What?
Yeah. Man, that's
Jean.
Drink. Wow. Been into dissonance I remember.
That is crazy.
I'm pretty cool though.
I would be so on board with them. Kind of.
Oh, it's like dropping X-Men along the way,
and we assemble them together like their own Avengers team.
It'd be funny, though, because the X-Men have been dropped
in, previous movies, like the Miss Marvel's right, Brian.
They were just kind of like, doing little, you know, little, like, hints here
and there until the actual X-Men movie has been announced.
And what we're seeing out of Peter Parker, I know he's very alone, very isolated.
So would be Jean gray.
If she's out here like this by herself,
and she needs to find the school to be kind of find a home.
So then Xavier takes her in from this movie, you know, which would be awkward.
Could we get at the end of this movie?
That would be wild.
So real quick, though.
So Sadie is kind of, in this trailer, portray like a villain, right.
And why am I just reading that wrong?
We just see the back of her.
We don't know if she's a villain.
She could be a villain because she's, you know, this is before
the walls are put up by Xavier.
So maybe like, she's a little bit kind of typical.
I'm just seeing the trailer though, so let's just let's just keep that vibe
going, right.
Okay. Do you see Sadie performing as a villain?
Very well. Do you see like, intimidation?
I got it.
Is hard because I just see Max from Stranger.
Things.
Yeah, I have a hard time picture as anything else but Max.
But it's tough to kind of.
Yeah, it's funny
because she's going to be basically have 11 powers here in a second.
She just great.
Yeah. Yeah.
The role she originally always wanted.
So yeah.
She. Yeah, I just, I hope and
I don't know what I mean, but I hope that's something for her.
And if that's something that she is doing in this thing, that'd be awesome.
Yeah, I see this attempt from her and she nails it.
That's kind of just broadening her capabilities of, you know, filmmaking.
Exciting. Performing.
The last thing for this,
Spider-Man trailer that I want to make sure we talk about
is there's the shot where Spider-Man jumping towards the hand, and the hands,
like, launching in every direction. So it's cool to have the hand back from.
And then I know what you're doing.
Yes. And in this shot, I have broken down.
We with it on the website. I've done TikToks about it like that.
We see that they're all looking at different directions.
They're not all looking at Spider-Man.
And this is something that Spiderman has done in the past.
So while we only see Peter jumping,
there are at least one, possibly two other people in that picture.
Really, that's just not shown.
Who are the obvious answers like we were?
We had some people online ask, you know,
I put it out there, people have been answering.
Punisher and Hulk are definitely the easiest ones,
like Bruce Banner goes Hulk mode.
We see old school Hulk back.
That would be nice.
But what about like, Daredevil? Do you think Daredevil would come back?
I mean, he has fought the hand before.
He knows the hand.
Yeah.
I'm gonna I'm gonna, make sure that I'm gonna throw out
something that he may potentially try to save.
And that's gonna be a matter of web, right?
Because we had that, mess.
Those words, and you just shove them right back in your mouth
and don't put them out on the internet.
Please write back. Get your ball on hold.
I don't know.
I feel like that could be our revival.
I think, they've done that with the password.
I think some people were huge fans of, Oh, my God, the amazing Spider-Man.
And, they brought him back, and it kind of like was the excitement for it.
So, I mean.
Yeah, what was his ability to amazing Spider-Man?
There was no. Quality to it.
I just I wasn't a big fan of the Team Fox being blue for some reason, but who was?
I'm not gonna argue this one. I did not watch the movie because it.
Yeah, it's it did look horrible. But who?
Sidney's, sweetie, she played.
No Julia Carpenter.
She plays Julia Carpenter. The other one was Tracy.
If I love Spider Woman.
I would love to see Julia Carpenter. I.
If you're going to pull anybody from that, it probably would be Sydney Sweeney.
She's kind of the hot one right now.
She's been quite a few movies here recently, so I could see that.
Yeah.
All right then turn a curveball. Other.
Well okay.
So if it is the other idea for, city Sweeney, is it or.
I'm sorry, Sadie sink is it? She could be black cat.
Black Cat would be perfect in that spot right there.
Attacking.
Man. Black cat.
Man, when I think of her, I think of baddie.
Okay. So.
Well, yeah, I'm a little bit more, you know.
Yeah.
And I think Jean gray is less batty, so I think that makes sense.
And then also like with black Cat, she's so, seductive
with Peter Parker and yeah, I don't see that was as seedy.
So yeah, that's fair.
There's all kinds of options. I would love to hear from everybody else.
We've got some really wild predictions.
One last thing.
Are we going to get a shot through a sniper scope?
Looking at Peter Parker like we would a famous comic book with Punisher?
We need that.
I had to have that.
I had that, I had that comic on my wall. Right now.
I need that shot.
Hell, yeah. It's just.
It's just like, I would love, like,
the introduction of Punisher is just looking through his scope first.
And, you know, right away, just like, instant.
Just change my panties.
Even if you just like.
Because, like, maybe they're on the same side
still, like, it's not an aim or targeting him.
Maybe he's like, doing any, like, pulls up and shoots the the web.
I gotta be kind of a fun little movie.
A little Easter egg. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's move over to the other big movie that we got coming out this year.
We have so many. Cool, y'all.
My my Fandango card is on fire.
I was talking Dune three and squeaks.
You are the one that's read Dune Messiah. Dune three. Yeah.
Can you kind of break down what you're seeing in this trailer
and what we can expect without major spoilers? Yeah.
So starts off with really sentimental of Paul and grimy Cheney.
Cheney I would say Cheney.
Right. Okay. Because sometimes that's it. Yeah.
Cheney do whatever. We'll go.
Jenny, I know when. You're reading it, it's hard.
If you read, I'm not going to try to say anything,
but if you read the book, then, you know, may possibly what's to come.
But the trailer does it does a wonderful job of not making
you feel like something, sorrowful or whatever is going to come, so
I do love, like, get the if or, you know, like, if it was, boy,
if it was a girl and, you know, you'll see later what actually happens.
Well, you. Can read it.
And let me go and say this.
We can do some. Yeah. I mean, this is some basics. Yeah. Okay.
You can say, say ten years in the future from the past movie.
So these two are adults.
They have kids that are thoroughly active.
Yeah. Two kids. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So I don't know I didn't know how much we're going to I just.
Don't spoil like big plot stuff.
But I mean like kind of set up stuff is fine.
You gotta expect in the first act.
With that, after that happens, we because we see Anna Joy Taylor,
if I'm in the joy.
And the joy. The entertainer. Joy.
Yeah, I'm just saying that backwards.
She plays a pretty pivotal character in the novel,
but it doesn't seem like that's going to be portrayed so much with the movie.
I think that's going to happen quite a bit with this,
because we're just going to focus on all lot, and moving on from there.
That's my prediction, really.
That's just something that I see.
I do also see that the comparing to the book that this book is, is
it's more of like,
what's the right words to say, like a more of a political like, thriller?
I guess I'm just. I'm. So they said that the.
Okay, so, this novel knew that director said the first one was coming of age.
Second one was a war movie. This was a thriller movie.
But the book is very much like what you see here is not what happens in the book.
It's more of like, things are happening, but the conversations are just that.
Iraq is.
So what I do like at the movies is making phenomenal
is that they're giving us that, big cinematic
what it would be as instead of just being it described to us.
So it's like, hey, we won the war over here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's the book.
Now in this movie,
I love that we're going to see like actual like action take place.
And we see that with like Paul's like Army.
He's kind of like taking over of things.
And I think that's what we see here
with the his kind of people attacking those samurai looking dudes.
It's not explained in the book,
but it's kind of something that's happening off screen.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
So I love that we're seeing that.
I do like that we see Robert Pattinson's character as what's this I.
Don't I tried to.
Tell Sky tale,
that's going to be like the big, big baddie in this, in this movie
that I'm predicting. Do you think he's. Going to do good at that role?
And then Robert Pattinson surprised me before, with him just being Batman.
Yeah. And, yeah, the lighthouse.
I think that's what it's called, but not waterfront.
So I'm not going to doubt him until,
you know, if this comes out and and tanks and whatnot.
I've been surprised.
So far with anybody, any other actor or actress.
And the Dune, just like, Andrew Butler, I think. Right.
That's just. Yeah, he's Butler with the second one.
I would have never thought, you know, I just watch this guy become Elvis,
and now he's out there, you know, killing everything he sees.
Yeah. But he's going to be pivotal.
So essentially for him, like, he everybody knows him.
He is a shapeshifter.
Face dancer is the terms of the face dancer.
So he's able to just kind of portray other people just by, you know, obviously,
like chameleon.
So I would I love please, please, please
is I want to be fooled in this movie.
Oh yeah.
That way that tell us that he's shapeshifting.
Exactly like please fool me.
Like don't make me believe that
I know where he is at.
Like, let me be confused with Paul when the time comes,
because that's going to be.
Yeah, pretty, you know, decent ending,
between them to, cinematic climate, you know, whatever climax.
And then with the return of Duncan Idaho,
do you think Jason Momoa would be able to handle that return?
We know that.
You know, it's going to be a complicated character now.
It's not what it was beforehand.
Does his personality change much, in your opinion?
And will Jason Momoa actually, Charles will handle that.
Jason Momoa To me, he's always just Jason Momoa.
It's hard to like imagine being that not mean a good actor.
So I think maybe I'm saying, yeah.
Yeah. Right.
So because now, like in the in the beginning, he was that tough guy.
Right. And I think he's going to be more of just a shell. Right.
And that that's how I'm seeing him.
Not just I guess in this trailer, but going forward whatnot.
And, yeah, I mean, it's just going to be like, no facial expression, right?
That's all I'm saying.
So, with, it's, we got Florence Pugh, you know, coming back for her
as being the princess.
Yeah. Let's see what else.
And then now her and Chani are both basically wives. Two.
Yeah. 80s, you know? Yeah. It's.
Always a very different man.
Two, 17 years later, people correct me on when I was saying, like, he.
So what I was saying online was that at the end of number two,
you should see Paul Moore's a bad guy, that he here that you want to be.
And if you guys didn't catch up by two, you'll definitely get that number three.
I had said that basically he's evil.
You guys should know that he's evil.
Maybe evil is not the right term, but
he is actively going towards being a bad guy.
He's very much the Anakin character becoming Darth Vader in this moment.
Where do you see those similarities between him? Like Anakin?
I, I can see that.
Yeah, because when it starts to become he how he has a little bit of power.
He's tried so hard to get that power that he kind of
wants to use it for potentially selfish needs.
So in the beginning,
we kind of, like, was falling in love with him, and him and Cheney.
But then you start seeing like, hey, I have to basically be
with somebody else to get this power.
And that's like something very, I guess, hero as of someone, you know, in a way.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, obviously that power is going to keep driving.
He's gonna do whatever it takes to get that power.
As you see right there.
Yeah.
He knows the golden path is going to be, you know, laid in blood.
So he has to to get people on that golden path.
He has to conquer the universe first in kind of,
you know, so there's a lot of blood in his at his feet.
He knew this is coming.
And he told people to not make him the leader.
They still did it.
So he has to do it now. And it's like, yeah.
So that's why I say that he's a bad guy, because, if the Fremen weren't following
this charismatic leader, they wouldn't have been ushered into war, you know?
Yeah.
Eventually Iraq and Stones, okay, wouldn't have to go around too much details.
What happens there.
But, at this stage, the Fremen, who are just fine on their own
planet, suddenly are now, you know, part of this man's army.
That's it, conquered the galaxy.
And it's like, yeah, if you didn't follow Anakin into his Darth Vader stage.
Probably wouldn't.
And even
the images that we're seeing out of out of Timothee Chalamet right now,
he looks, you know burnt up and he's got he's missing an eyebrow.
And he looks like he's got a few scars on him since then.
So yeah he's he's been through hell and back.
Yeah yeah.
If know is I,
I don't know I guess like you say that, but you, you pointed out his eyes and.
Yeah. Something happened. Certain.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So yeah.
Try not to do too many spoilers that, on December 18th.
We have this movie and we have the New Avengers.
Which one are you seeing first? Oh, man.
I just seem like me.
You're watching both on the same exact day.
Right?
There's gonna be two long movies, you know? Man.
Yeah, yeah, I can, because Dune is something
that, pulled me into this universe and I knew nothing about.
And I love it, and it's very cinematic, but we already.
But it's like,
wow, I we've been talking about, this new, Avengers for so long.
That's going to be a crazy action packed.
So it might just have to be the same day for both.
So I don't have to take any sides.
Yeah, I'm kind of thinking, like, which one do I want to end my day with?
Really? Do I want to end my day with Dune?
So I'm sitting there thinking about like the morality.
Of politics and.
Or do I want to end my day with Doctor Doom where
I'm just being like, Will they beat him in the next movie and Secret Wars?
So I don't know. Yeah, it's going to God. It's going to be a long day.
Yeah. It's because birthday.
That dude better not throw any parties, man. Because I'm. Crazy.
Yeah.
I think if I had to pick, I'd have to do, Avengers second,
because I would be really locked in to, like, all the like.
Like I said, like political conversations.
And this whole deep, like, story, I feel like that could, be happening
and do three and then finish it off with, like, just some action heroes that.
I know we have a year until then, but let's plan on all
getting together, all of us, and watching both movies back to back together.
Maybe we'll go out and eat somewhere between or something like that. What?
Now that seems like a fun day.
Yeah, yeah.
Next up, we have a couple new stories.
We'll go quick over these.
First off, what do you think about the rumors that Mr.
Ryan Gosling might be our next close friend?
This came up with an interview because in 2022, he had pitched it.
And then he he said during an interview that he's had some conversations
with Kevin Foggy, not necessarily about this.
He has confirmed that, but, you know, the rumors are out there.
What do you think about Gosling?
Like, first off, this gives us Johnny Blaze.
He would play Johnny Blaze again,
and I didn't think we would go Johnny Blaze after that.
So what are your thoughts about him playing Johnny Blaze?
I love it.
So, you know, like I always say, I'm an OG type person.
So I want to see, like, the original.
So when he, he's going back to the original, I'm down for it.
I think if we're going to do it, let's go way back to have Ghost Rider on a horse
and then kind of maybe lead up to the motorcycle.
That might be fun. No, I don't know. Whatever.
I was kind of thinking. Just jumping on that.
What if Nicolas Cage is the horse version?
That would be a cool nod.
Yeah, and he's just playing.
I think his name's Slade.
Carter. Slade, right. That would be.
Yeah, that'd be a pretty cool, like handing the torch or, torch over, thing.
But I think what you're saying, like, what I think about
this is a potential thing.
I it's been talked a lot lately,
and it doesn't seem like it's a potential thing.
It's it might be something that's actually locked in.
So Ryan Gosling in the MCU is pretty, pretty wild to me.
It's a. Yeah.
Think it's a good actor. He's another one of those actors
like we're talking about Robert Robert Pattinson.
Now that he's a little bit older, he's he's getting very good.
He's kind of.
I freaking love him.
And Barbie loves.
But also like we have right now Hail Mary.
We have a new Star Wars coming up with him.
Join the MCU man. What the hell.
I think Johnny Blaze is a really good spot for him.
I was thinking we were gonna go right to Robby Ray is.
But maybe we could get Johnny Blaze eventually.
Teaming up with Robby Ray is down the road.
I think that'd be great.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then.
Yeah, there's no reason for to not be a part of this.
Robert is been getting a lot of attention, through, like, video games and callbacks
and whatnot.
So I would not be shocked that that's really soon to be on the horizon.
I thought for sure
is the one next we're going to because of, agents of Shield had Robbie Reyes
and I thought, okay, I'll just make that the main one.
Then,
and then the other new story we want to make sure to bring up
is that Assassin's Creed series.
We got some confirmation on a few things.
So first off, there's a ton of casting.
We don't have any roles confirmed yet.
They had said it will be in Italy, so we all assumed.
Okay, Ezio, it's Assassin's Creed two.
It's the best one. Everybody's favorite.
They did, you know, three games in that series in that part of the series?
No, this is a whole new story.
It will not be related to any other games.
It's set in 64 A.D.
it'll be in ancient Rome.
And right when I heard that, I thought, oh, it'll be like, rise.
What is Greece's favorite games of all time?
Oh my goodness.
I'm thinking like,
you're right, you're saying a title to an Assassin's Creed game.
No, no, no. You're ranking. Rise. Yeah.
Rise, rise. Yes! Oh, my. Yes.
Yeah. That's why I was like, honestly. Yeah.
Like that whole like. But you know like that's great.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm like, please, please give me that game back.
Right.
But like when you look at that game, I think it was about the same time
because.
So 64 A.D., it's when Rome was burning.
They had the great fire in Rome, and, Emperor Nero was in charge, and he,
so here's a quick little rundown on Emperor Nero, when Rome had burned.
There's the whole joke that or the saying
that he was playing his fiddle around, burned.
Afterwards, he shaped Rome into his own design.
He rebuilt a lot of Rome the way he liked it.
And, he blamed a lot of the Christians for, the burning.
And so at this time, you have people
that are afraid of Christians or, like, basically
alienate each other, their friends and brothers.
You have a lot of people that it just became homeless because of the fires.
And, there was an assassination attempt on, on Nero.
So we could have it where our assassin is the one that makes a turn.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
During during rise, was it not pretty close to 64 A.D?
So I don't know if it's still accurate, but first century A.D., the late,
to late second century.
So. So it's about 50 years before the events of rise.
Yeah.
The cafe down so far as so many people.
So it's just not like super saturated
of, like, what stories are going to be taking place in this series.
It's going to be drawn out because we're trying to tell stories.
We're so many different people. I'll just I'm gonna throw this out there.
If you're going to have two cast, then yeah, you do want a lot of people,
future cast in the past cast.
Oh, okay. Okay.
Yeah, I like that, I like that, and that could be a theory
of how there's so many people that's announced right now. I like that.
Yeah, that we just need something that's done. Right.
This could be a revitalization of the series at all.
Ubisoft's gonna do very well right now.
So this could be like a high thing where people can go back
and give that spark, maybe that push for even Ubisoft as well.
But, yeah, I mean, after the movie, which was kind of like so, so obviously,
I think that's a that's pretty good. I'm looking forward to it.
Are you ready?
We're going back to the world of Marvel with a Daredevil recap.
We're talking Daredevil Born Again season two.
Squeaks I'm so damn excited for this.
Let's kind of go back to
what happened in the last season so we know what's going on.
Matt Murdock is back in full resistance mode.
He's trying to save his city once again.
Now that Fisk is,
you know, mayor, and he's forming a, independent country on the side.
Wilson Fisk, he won the last season.
So unlike past seasons where there's some sort of victory for Daredevil
and he could take a breather. No. He lost.
And with, Fisk one foggy is dead, although he is really dead.
But we have seen that he's.
He did do some scenes in this new season, just missing flashbacks.
At the end of the season, Karen is back with Matt in that orbit,
so she's not fully in services anymore.
Punisher is locked away, but he's still in play.
Likely going to be breaking out.
We know that he's in Spider-Man
and Jessica Jones is returning for season two, so Jessica Jones is back
to help out Daredevil as he starts to build a team to take on this.
So I wonder, I want to bring that up because you said Punisher.
I'm reading a lot that the Punisher
will not return for the season, which is blasphemy.
And I said that word. Finally I will throw up.
I think he would be crazy for to never show up,
but he does have a standalone movie coming up.
It's like one of those, Marvel specials, so maybe they'll release that somewhat
close, you know?
Okay, okay.
What do you want to make sure that they bring forward from season two?
And what do you hope
they bring in from the wider MCU to kind of like show off of here?
All right. So season one was phenomenal.
Was storytelling that had not too much action.
But man, that action at the end was just I remember texting you were calling you
right away was like, that was something I needed the years ago.
So I need that attitude because it needs to feel like the next chapter.
Kind of like something like planet of the apes,
where each movie is something different.
And that's what I need with this one.
I need that violent, that intensity like that.
This is a war. Now.
So with that, we're recruiting others, right?
We see Jessica Jones, in here,
which is something I did not ever want to see ever again.
But I love just doing so much.
And crying little baby. He's like, shut up.
You got so many freaking powers and you're just whining and whining.
I get that she. Is by far my second favorite defender.
Like, I love Luke Cage as well.
I know I she defenders.
Not saying much okay well okay.
Okay. Yeah. She's not Iron Man.
I mean I'm not. Saying she's the. Best Marvel character.
But. You know hopefully like with this that that that like what
you just said defenders that we maybe potentially we'll see more coming through.
So maybe like we brought Punisher back when we look at a Luke Cage.
I would like to look at this.
Maybe, but I need that.
And I'm hoping with this nod of the we kind of get that vibes
because we switched the black suit, which was, originally,
brought up in like the Shadowlands comic run.
That suit looks.
But, yeah, I mean, I'm hopefully that this is feels like a next chapter.
So that's all I'm looking for suit wise.
Just real quick on that.
They just kind of explained how this is a unique suit.
It's never all of the suits have been pulled from the comic books.
This is the only one that hasn't been what it is.
Is, It's not a black suit.
It's the red suit body spray painted a black.
And as the season goes on and he takes a beating, the suit keeps chipping away.
All the black paint goes back to red.
I noticed the chipping, and I thought
maybe that was just like some underlining or whatever.
The black ones.
So that's where they spray paint it.
But okay, it's a.
Yeah, that's an interesting. Well yeah.
Yeah.
You know he does have a suit maker, but maybe he didn't have the
I don't know, maybe this is the suit maker. Doesn't see that with him.
It's weird but okay. You're a lawyer. Bro.
So that's fair. He does have some. Yeah.
I think he might be laid off because he's been,
like, spotty at showing up to work, but.
Yeah.
Hopefully we'll get the, I'm thinking of forgetting your name.
But we'll get the She-Hulk, you know, maybe coming, bring it back to her.
Her, lawyer.
Yeah.
Do you think She-Hulk might make a pop up in this dude?
I mean, he was in there. Hers?
Yeah.
I wouldn't say no, because the tone doesn't give me that.
Unless they really want to change up
She-Hulk and get rid of that, like, sitcom comedy type thing.
But I'm going to say no, because it just doesn't feel like She-Hulk belongs to.
I think she belongs together in that universe.
Most definitely.
But not not with what to do with this season.
The season seems streams of very violent, and
because the She-Hulk season one, I'm not seeing that.
Speaking of violent
echo season could have been seen as very violent.
I think this could be a chance to bring echo back.
If Marvel doesn't want to completely forget about her next.
Yeah, okay. Next one.
What about Hawkeye?
Hawkeye is ground level character in. Yeah.
New York.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hawkeye.
Vengeance from us.
No mobile, whatever that is.
So. So no.
More, Personal.
But, no, I would love to see the Hawkeye, because that's you.
I actually was a big fan of that series, and I kind of what it meant.
I liked it a lot in June.
Yeah, because it was so, I guess practical fuel,
you know, like, the explosions and stuff like that, so.
But I could see him be on that level.
So I guess characters that are on that level, with Daredevil,
I mean, I guess Jessica Jones would be the exception, right?
Because she's like basically a Superman or someone that.
Right. Super strong.
Also super strong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all lowercase.
You got that.
But yeah, I mean, I can see Hawkeye, I like that.
I would like that. Now because this is so New York.
What about the most New York superhero of all Spiderman.
Could Spiderman make an appearance in the Daredevil series? Man?
And you know what? We're talking about tones.
But because, like you said, New York, right?
Man, I got he's swinging around somewhere, right?
And he's a little darker in the movie, so
maybe he kind of,
something the vibes, you know, from somewhere here or whatever.
And he's regularly fighting his rogues gallery,
and that's what we're seeing him regularly fight people all the time.
The hands in their the hands very heavily in the daredevil. So.
Yep. In both.
And, his lawyers, Matt Murdock, we saw that from, Movie already. Yes.
There are ties.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.
If Spidey, I'm telling you right now, this is totally my Mephisto of this.
If Spider-Man does not show up, I might be a little bit disappointed, actually.
And I hate to do that to Marvel, because some bullshit.
But come on, baby, you have to see you.
Let's prove it.
And my thing is to see Spider-Man with the kingpin,
but it just fall in love with it.
Because I've only known kingpin because of Spider-Man, not because of Daredevil.
I mean, I know Daredevil, like original, like the old series, like Born Again.
He's a bait, the main villain there.
But I was just in my lifetime, introduced the kingpin.
As with Spider-Man.
So I would love to see that combo on one shot together.
Yeah, yeah.
A couple things to keep a keep in mind.
Matt Murdock, you know, his core conflict never really changes.
He's a lawyer,
but the justice system doesn't ever do any good for him,
so he's got to take things in his own hands.
Do you see, with the first season, we saw him really try to be a good lawyer?
Yeah, and he even was, like, kind of elevating his lawyer game.
But it felt like by the end of last season,
he was ditching that idea and leaning more towards his daredevil.
Will we have that kind of pendulum swing back at some point where he's like,
I need to do this the right way. I need to get back in a courtroom?
Or do you think he's going to be just like full street justice?
Yeah.
So I think he's going to go on a rampage, right?
Because of the past experience.
I think it's going to get really dark for him.
But then what do you see
in the corner of his eyes is friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Right.
And he's going to bring him back to life
and he's not going to come back as a lawyer,
but he's going to do what a superhero should be doing.
And, you know, we can, you know, kill him on these on these villains.
Right? So I think that's what we're going to get.
I don't think we're gonna get Matt Murdock lawyer anymore unless unless again,
like I said, he's hired by She-Hulk and the law firm.
I see that.
Matt Murdock again together.
That'd be so weird.
I'm reading a book right now.
Is She-Hulk working in, new law form? Because she was fired from her last one.
I could see Matt Murdock just showing up. She's great in the comics.
I like her a lot.
Oh, yeah? Oh, man, I love She-Hulk.
And that's why I kind of, like, give it a little bit of benefit
of the doubt from the She-Hulk series, but, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Wilson Fisk is trying to be legitimate.
He's trying to have influence and control, but we saw him breaking a lot
in the last season.
And now you brought up such a good point. He's not the.
Well, he's not the one presenting the key to Spider-Man in his movie.
Do we see New York?
Recognize him finally as the crime boss, not the mayor by the end of the season?
Yeah, I think so, 100%.
I think it's going to get to that super massive
breaking point where he's just not going to carries it across it.
There's no returning back to it. He's going to do
whatever it takes to stop, you know, Daredevil and and whomever.
I think we're going to see him get pushed that far.
I mean, would you think anything different than that?
I mean, I hope.
I hope that we push him into a point.
So they're saying, gosh, Vincent D'Onofrio, the actor who plays him, said
that they can't use him in the movies now.
He'll always be the TV show only version. Oh, why?
Why is this all right?
Copyright problems. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
It's all okay.
That's fine.
But I need him to be big enough of a threat to be brought back later on.
Like you can't get rid of Vincent and after. It's such a good actor.
Yeah, but also, I think we're at the point now where we have to bring Daredevil
to the big movies.
So if we're going to bring Daredevil into the Avengers movies,
we have to have a reason for the problem to still be Vincent D'Onofrio
or to be kingpin in another season.
You know what I'm saying?
It's really hard to, like, have Daredevil now go fight Doctor Doom
and then come back down for season five or whatever,
and fight, kingpin again, you know what I'm saying?
Don't escalate beyond.
Okay.
So you're saying
that this is the end of kingpin and he's just stay that way then, right?
Either you kill kingpin off and he is dead at the end of this thing,
which would be a real shame because the hell with actor. Hell of a good character.
But I can see that being the case. Yeah.
Because the hard man. Right.
Because you know, your resume you know let's say Iron Man
for example, is all these massive villains, you know like hold on,
why are you struggling with kingpin.
You know, it's kind of like you know, that experience as well as rats.
Yeah.
Next foggy being killed.
Now, there is a story in the comics where foggy killed.
And it was Vanessa that.
Well, foggy is shot, and Vanessa went to set it all up to kind of hide foggy away.
Do you think foggy could return?
And Vanessa was making moves with the board.
Can we see her really kind of elevate as a her own independent crime boss
in this one?
I, I really don't want to see foggy and come back.
And I think that's because it'll.
Just be death. Maybe. Yes, 100%.
So I think we'll just get, like, the continued flashbacks.
The fake death would be a slap in the face.
So let's just say, like, hey, like what?
We always predicted changing things at the end of the whole series.
It was just big game.
This one would be like, hey, he we saved him.
We kept him in hiding in cases.
So. Batman, I could do this.
Is this, you knew Matt Murdock wouldn't know either.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't see him come back.
Do you want him to come back?
I, I like him back just because I think he's such a good check on Matt.
I think without him, we saw Matt kind of flail you.
He went like two lawyer.
You remember how he,
like, kind of became a rich lawyer, like an asshole version of a lawyer.
And so I think he's a really good pressure valve for him.
I wish that Matt would find that in somebody else.
But right now, like, Karen's not around enough for that.
And so there is a there's definitely value in foggy.
But also yeah, you're right.
If you bring it back, it's kind of your low key problem. Right.
Where it cheapens his death suddenly, season one is now is a lot less impactful.
Hold on. Loki.
You know, like Loki, they kept bringing, you know.
But I'm just saying he has the power to maybe to us.
Something around now. Oh, yeah.
All too much secret wars.
Oh, yeah.
Once we get the Secret Wars, like everything's done. Yeah.
We don't know what's going to happen after that.
At that point, I need the Miles Morales to be back and. Yeah.
All that. Yeah. Or. And, And then lastly. Yeah.
So, Vanessa, do you think Vanessa's going to become a more main character
because you remember.
So when they were first filming Born Again,
which again, it wasn't necessarily a direct copy of Netflix,
their whole thing was like, oh, we're going to recast Vanessa.
Yeah, yeah.
And then, enough from the fans came out to where they brought back Vanessa.
That gave her more role, more to do,
and they actually reshot a lot of the season and,
and change the order because it was like, what, 16 and went down to nine.
So like the fans had a lot of input in there. So did
Bob Iger and Kevin Foggy.
So season one was manipulated a lot.
Season two is coming off of that was even season two would be more complete.
Did you think we're going to get more Vanessa
and will she become her own crime boss?
I think she might be the answer to after kingpin.
We've she's had relations.
Yeah, she's had relationships with these mob boss because she was covering before.
It seems like she still has some respect for it.
She still holds herself as, like, the crime boss.
Really?
So I think she's going to be the answer after kingpin.
Now, do I feel like, what does that look like then?
Right.
So if I, you know, I give you this scenario right now.
What, what she's not going to be brutal, right?
So is she going to be more like in a sense of, mind brutality maybe, you know.
Yeah, she's more
or she is a very strategic player, but I think there's a brutality to kingpin,
and she doesn't have, you know, a blood loss.
Yeah. Yeah.
So she might be like the Godfather type, you know, kingpin that is is
going to be the shifting mob boss is really bad.
What happened was.
I could yeah I and I could see if anything if we are sticking with kingpin
at the end of this, maybe kingpin loses, but not necessarily to Daredevil,
but to Vanessa.
And Vanessa now takes over and kingpin has to fight
back to get his standings back from his wife.
Like that would be.
That would be interesting move for the next season.
I wonder if like one of the final shots was like him dying to Daredevil
and she had a
actually the opportunity to save him, but she doesn't take that opportunity.
Because it seems like that thirst to kind of be on
top is still there from her, the way she acts.
Yeah. And, man, that'd be so bad ass, right?
The end of that season, she just kind of walks away from helping her husband.
And we don't. And I don't know, Vanessa.
That character's tied to the
same restraints that Kingpin's tied to where he can't be in a movie.
So they might do that so that they can at least use Vanessa in a future movie.
Yeah, you know, because then you get the wider MCU.
Just make our rogue's gallery.
Anybody that in New York.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Season two of Daredevil Born Again is out the day this episode comes out.
We're going to watch it.
We're going to review it as soon as we can on the next episode of Geek Freaks.
Squeaks, hopefully.
I know it's your schedule's been crazy lately.
Hopefully you could join me for that so we could talk all about what's happening.
Most definitely.
Yeah.
There's a lot of shows that I'm, behind on,
but this one, I'll be definitely watching that first episode. Really.
So we are. Behind on a lot of shows. Me you know what?
I know I need people who know the anime.
I luckily I brought on Scott
who knew the anime, but I just feel like as so many questions,
you know, you know how much I was googling while I was watching
the show was like, what's this guy look like in the enemy?
Where does this guy go?
This green here, dude, it's in lockdown. What does he look like?
Like, oh, he doesn't just show up for the first few hundred episodes.
I just brought him forward for a little bit, like, oh, that's cool.
Why is this guy has a number on his head?
Why are you're. Saying. Here?
Yeah.
The guy with number three.
And I said, why is he so freaking dope?
Like, yeah.
Wax powers is sick as.
Hell, man.
Yeah, they have I got you got to watch it, man.
I want to talk about chopper.
Amazing how much like when chopper small.
I just want to coddle him and protect him.
And then as soon as he gets bigger, I'm like, nah, man, go get a job.
I don't want you. To around about this.
Yeah. You went from CGI to cosplay.
Get out of your bro.
Oh, man. Yeah. So Daredevil born again.
Guys, we're gonna get you a view on that as soon as possible.
Let's head to the network stuff.
This is nearing right now. They're at a Lego convention.
And they're going to be interviewing a series of Lego masters.
So make sure you guys are tuning in over there.
If you guys like Lego Masters or, Legos in general.
Everybody was like, hold on, can we. Talk about that real quick?
Yeah, I got that same invitation. How's that?
How does that work out for hours?
How do you have you heard from them?
How is it like the process of it or whatever? I got the same email.
I got the same invite, but I was like, man, I really can't make that.
I would love to because I freaking love Legos.
I was at, airports if I read that even.
Right.
What do you got about what you got?
It was, it's just a convention that they that they do it at, Brick
Con or something like that. Yeah.
So I can I think it's like the first one or something like that.
Is the first one. I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We couldn't, you know, we couldn't go but they're going so.
Yeah. Yeah hopefully.
Yeah. I'm really excited to see what these are.
If you want to go next year I'll make sure that you have tickets I just did.
Yeah I just got the email and it was, you know, it was just kind of something
caught off guard. So for me. Yeah. Yeah. Hard to make.
Sure that next.
Year no.
Outlets podcast episode four,
we're gonna be talking about, the betrayals that are going on.
There are some friendships, that have been broken
because of the betrayals going on that are beyond just the show.
Over at fan portals, Aaron is talking about Muppet Treasure Island.
Man, I forgot how much I freaking love that movie.
That's got to be. I think that might be my favorite Muppet movie.
Which is your favorite?
Honestly.
It's a yearly one for me.
It's the Muppets.
Scrooge. Wow, a Christmas carol.
Yeah. Christmas carol. Yeah, I do love that one.
One thing I really love out of the Muppets, though, is the
the TV show I missed.
It was like the Office vibes, right?
For a minute, right? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Of that. Thing. Did you watch the new episode?
They did like, one new episode to test it out.
No, I didn't, Oh, so that probably is good.
I know, because I used to watch that Muppet show, like, a long time ago.
Not like when they kind of brought it back for a little bit. Yeah, a long time ago.
This one, I think it was Sabrina Carpenter that they had.
It was and I. It was so fun.
And it just probably right back to my childhood
watching the Muppets like ran a little show.
It's a pretty soon like the song is created world.
Yeah. Watch it with the girls. Watch it with the girls.
Yeah. Most definitely. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I have to watch it with the girls. And what would. How?
Because, I mean, I even they might truck Sabrina Carpenter.
So I love me some somebody I only log back into Fortnite for to buy her skin.
So yes, she does.
Just like. Chicken Song.
And she's just a lot of fun.
Yeah, she does great.
Our latest interview you guys heard on the podcast last week
is with Allan Dunford.
I had accident, so here, let me explain what was going on.
There was a bit of a technical error
because I was doing editing, and I was put the rough draft
on our server and I accidentally pressed publish.
So you guys are the rough draft.
And so there were a few things in there that were meant to be cut out.
I fixed them, and they're rolling up now.
But his Covid book is not out yet because that podcast is supposed to go out yet.
But you guys got an early access, I guess, to, Alan's interview.
It's a really good interview we're talking about.
His, new Culver Company and the new comic books that he got coming down the line.
And he also just joined Justice Nutting for an episode, too.
So that was a lot of fun.
Let's go back to you, squeaks.
For your recommendation of the week.
Ooh, okay, okay.
See, I wasn't really expecting that, but I have one because, you know, it's.
Literally the notes every week.
So, DC has been doing a lot of crossovers
with just the comics in general, like Godzilla or whatever, etc..
Right now there's something,
I thought was fairly new, but it's because I just recently saw
merchandise came out for it.
So I think they just like super quality after the fact.
2005 DC in Sonic the Hedgehog.
Highly recommend you get that.
You get the hedgehogs kind of up with like, their personalities
of the DC hero and they kind of team up and fight Darkside
who goes into whatever
sonic land, whatever, and tries to take it over,
assuming that he's looking for the emerald crystals.
Gotta check it out.
Okay, so literally just DC like all the other ones.
It's on their dog.
That's wild. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. For fun.
Who knew?
So, My recommendation for you guys are show like,
if you like samurai Jack, I got a show for you.
Oh, I do.
Yes. So the creator, samurai Jack.
So I'm gonna say that name wrong.
It's Genndy Tartakovsky.
Oh, maybe I said it right.
He had a show called primal, and I just started watching this.
I'm actually, like, two seasons in writing now at this point,
but it follows a, And I know the third season's like, big twist.
But it
follows this caveman whose family is killed by dinosaurs
and, he befriends a different dinosaur, a T-Rex.
And the two of them go on very samurai Jack style adventures.
And, it is the same, like the entire episode
is just them doing that sick ass samurai Jack kind of fighting style.
Nice. And the whole time you're just like,
I just want stills of this put on my walls.
It's so gorgeous.
So please, if you like samurai Jack.
It's on HBO.
It was a tsunami thing.
It's on the HBO Max, and it's called primal.
The third season came out,
I want to say, like two months ago, and it's a very big twist in the story.
I already know what happened because, I mean, like,
you can skip it, but yeah, it's really, really good to check that out, guys.
Primal. All right, everybody, thank you very much for joining us.
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