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Andy: This is the Secure Family Podcast.

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Welcome friend, I'm Andy Murphy.

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This show is all about empowering parents
to protect themselves and their family.

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I believe that security is
the foundation of happiness.

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I want your family to be safe and happy.

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If that sounds like something that
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the show because there is always
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The information that I share
on this podcast is for general

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information purposes only.

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My goal is to empower you to make
safer decisions for yourself and

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your family because our safety
is our own responsibility.

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Today, I get to chat with an emergency
preparedness expert and we're going to

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redefine family disaster preparedness.

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All of that and more coming up
on The Secure Family Podcast.

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Welcome to 2026.

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I want this to be the best
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A lot of us are making resolutions to get
serious when it comes to exercise what

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we need to eat, or giving up a bad habit.

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I think 2026 needs to be the year you
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If you're starting a clean slate
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needs to be a part of that.

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My guest on the show today is a
man known as Disaster patrick.

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Patrick is not the
typical disaster expert.

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No doom and gloom, no scare tactics.

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Just real actionable insights
from the forefront of the world's

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toughest disaster challenges.

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Between setting the world record for 28
hours of nonstop CPR, building emergency

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shelters with Lego blocks, and evacuating
240 cats in 90 minutes, Disaster Patrick's

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mission is to push the edge of what's
possible in preparing for a disaster.

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Patrick has a great saying, prepare for a
disaster and you'll never experience one.

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Here's my conversation
with Disaster Patrick.

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So Patrick, thank you so much
for taking time outta your day

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to talk with me and my audience.

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Introduce yourself to everybody.

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Patrick: Well, I'm the person
that's going to help you rethink the

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way you do disaster preparedness.

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I've been doing disaster planning
for over 20 years, and I think that

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the way that most people do disaster
preparedness, is completely wrong.

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So I decided after a long career,
um, as a disaster professional

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in private service, I decided to
become a full-time content creator.

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So now I create videos that
show people disaster planning.

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Doesn't have to be hard, it
doesn't have to be difficult.

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It can be fun and it can be interesting.

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And the way people call
me is Disaster Patrick.

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Andy: That's a great,
that's, that's great, man.

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Um, Given your experience, uh, you
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there's always that one person
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preparedness minded and it
seems like nobody else is.

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So how do you help the preparedness
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family to buy into the plan?

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I try to make it fun.

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One of the things I'm doing this
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live on YouTube, is I am building the
world's first, very first FEMA rated.

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Hurricane shelter.

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And hurricanes are something
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in the south and on the east.

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And so you understand exactly the
implications of what I'm about to say.

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This is gonna be the first FEMA
rated hurricane shelter, and

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it's gonna be made entirely.

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Outta Lego blocks, and it's gonna
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doing is I'm building this thing.

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I have Lego Master
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I've got, uh, people from the University
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physicists, people who know wind,
they know, and these guys test,

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you know, uh, they test 7 47 wings
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And the wind tunnel can blow
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So we're gonna take this structure
for the, so for the next nine

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months we're gonna build this thing.

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And then in September of this year,
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wind tunnel and we are going to test
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People sometimes ask me, why, why
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I mean, why in the world
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A A, a a hurricane
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And my answer is this, I wanna
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preparedness is in your reach.

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And it doesn't have to be
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honest with you, and I think.

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What ends up happening is a
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involved in disaster planning.

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Frankly, I wouldn't either.

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I totally get it because
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It's boring, it's
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So what I'm trying to do is
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Let's make it empowering.

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And kids they love Lego blocks.

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That's one of the first things they did.

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As a matter of fact, I have a video
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where we, I took school supplies, just
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in any elementary school classroom.

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I built a wildfire structure entirely
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backyard in his family's house.

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And we literally built it back there
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lo and behold, it stayed up and, and
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It was amazing.

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But the whole point of doing these is
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So what I would tell those folks is I
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It's a two-prong strategy.

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First, you have to tell people that.

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They are responsible for their
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Mm-hmm.

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There's too many families
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Mom and dad will handle it.

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As soon as you say Mom and dad will
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If it's boring and awful and doom
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say, well, you're responsible for it.

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Now the kids think, okay,
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And so they look to something that's
really fun and empowering and they,

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that they can say, I can do it.

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Because I think if they think that
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be fun and interesting for them,
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their mind a little bit, then you
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Very cool.

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So I have a lot of questions about
this Lego, uh, hurricane shelter.

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Um, how many bricks are,
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Like there's gotta be like
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8,000.

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Uh, you tell me a little bit
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what it would look like?

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Or is this, I know this is a, you
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uh, or is secret or can you tell
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Patrick: We do know the structure.

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The structure is designed,
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I'm working with a couple of partners
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Lego conferences, so we're going and
collecting bricks because hey, one

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of the biggest problems is how in
the world are you gonna get 8,000?

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Uh, bricks and plates.

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And so to get that many brick, bricks and
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So I'm partnering with
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Uh, we're gonna be announcing it
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just finalizing the website page.

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It'll go on my website,
disaster patrick.com.

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There will actually be a page that
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And what we're gonna do is, is,
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will be able to see it being built.

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And every week I'm doing a little vlog.

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Uh, to show people, um, the progress.

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How are we doing?

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Because I'll tell you something, it's
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It's fun and it's interesting,
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you have to do a lot of thought.

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There's a lot of moving
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There's a lot of people you,
you know, you have to integrate.

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So, so I want people to see
that journey and say, Hey, if

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I can do this, you can do that.

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Andy: Yeah, man, I like it.

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Uh, you know, best of luck with it.

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I think that's gonna be fantastic.

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I will definitely,
definitely check that out.

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Legos aside, what does a
realistic disaster plan look

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like for the average family.

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Patrick: A realistic disaster plan.

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Don't have one.

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Don't have one at all.

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Here's what I tell people there.

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I want you to think about, I
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number of families you know.

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Who actually write out a disaster plan.

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You know what the answer is zero.

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Or maybe there's one or two or
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that they are just committed.

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They write the plan down.

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All the other families,
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So the system I proposed to people,
as I say, look, I wanna change the way

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you think about disaster preparedness,
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Around a document, a dusty old binder
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both know, you're never gonna update,
you're never gonna look at, your

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kids are never gonna care about it.

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And I want you to focus
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A And I'm not talking about the backpack
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whatever, that you know how you, you, you
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You buy the backpack, it's a big red
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and you open it and it's got a bunch of
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Matter of fact, I was at an RV park,
uh, I did, I do a lot of, uh, disaster

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preparedness, uh, for our RV parks and
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And one of the things that happened
was, um, I was delivering a presentation

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and there was a family, a, a a, a
couple, I'm sorry, who were traveling

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around the country in their rv.

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And they asked me, Hey, would you
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I said, sure.

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And they said, 'cause we feel
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We're totally ready, Patrick.

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We've got this down.

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So I said, okay.

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So we opened it up and we pulled out all
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that wasn't that great, yada, yada.

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And then there was a piece of food, right?

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That's what I call it.

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It's hockey puck food.

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It's like right?

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It's hard as a rock.

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It'll, it'll, it'll break.

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Diamonds mean this
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And so anyway, so as we were going
through everything, I suddenly pulled

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out my, my, uh, pocket and I opened
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Whatcha doing?

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And I said, I'm making you lunch.

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And they said, why are
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Why'd you cut that open?

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I said, because you have
to eat the food now.

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You have to test it now, you have to
eat it now because this is food you're

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gonna be relying on in a potentially
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things are chaotic and you have to
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And you know what, we ended up
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actually eat because of food allergies.

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wow.

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so these are the, so what I say
to people is I say, say, look,

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here's what we're gonna do.

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You're gonna start with an empty backpack.

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And we're gonna build it.

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And I use a method, we don't have time
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it's called the five Pocket Method.

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I've used it with my high net
worth clients, where they're

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busy, they're jet setting types.

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I've used it with all kinds of families
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writing a plan down, I have engineered it.

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The sys, the system I've developed
is where you can put everything

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you need in the backpack, and
everything in the backpack will

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tell you exactly where to go.

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The backpack will say where you need
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order to get there, and how to be
successful once you get get there.

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So that's the system I use because
then I can inspect a backpack and I

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can pull it open and say, ah, perfect.

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Great.

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I know exactly everything.

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I know where you're going.

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There are the car keys, there are the
house keys, there's this, there's that.

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That tells me more than
having to write it all down.

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Right.

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So by doing that it, it gives
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Mm-hmm.

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learn by doing.

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I used to do this when
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I say, listen, don't worry about the book.

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Don't read the book.

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We're gonna do it by hand.

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We're gonna put the mannequin down and
I'm gonna show you how to do a patient

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assessment.

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And we did it, and they
learned far better that way.

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So when I work with families,
that's what I do as well.

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I say, listen, we're gonna create
a backpack for you that will have

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everything that you need in it.

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And plus, people respond much,
much better to objects than, than

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they do to some old disaster plan.

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Andy: Patrick, in the responses that
you've given me so far, you're talking

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about bringing the kids in from
the beginning, not like parents are

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sheltering, the kids saying, oh sweetie,
you don't have to worry about this.

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You're saying make everybody
involved in the preparedness process.

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Patrick: Absolutely.

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And the philosophy I tell
people all the time is, if I do

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nothing, no one else will either.

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No one else will.

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And that's the philosophy
I want you to take.

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Whether you're doing any kind
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recovery activity with a disaster.

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If I do nothing, no one else will either
because, because if the parents are doing

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it, it's if I do nothing, that's okay.

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Mom and dad will do it.

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If I do nothing, that's okay.

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FEMA will do it.

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If I do nothing, that's okay.

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The fire department will handle all of it.

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I say to them, absolutely not.

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You need to assume if I do
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And if you do that, then what
happens is you now, you see how

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that changes your mentality.

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It puts you in a place where everyone
can be involved and isn't simply, you

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know, telling kids that philosophy.

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It's saying, okay.

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You have to handle your
own disaster preparedness.

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And oh, by the way, here
are the tools available.

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That's why I did the video with
the 7-year-old because his parents

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weren't there building it with us.

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I mean, they were there watching
us just to make sure everything

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ran fine, but they didn't touch it.

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They didn't work with it.

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We did it all on our own because I
wanted to show people that if you

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empower someone, even a 7-year-old, they
can build a wildfire shelter entirely.

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Experience, but you are success.

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Andy: That's great, man.

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Yeah, I like that philosophy.

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I, I like the way, the way you're
thinking about, and you know, when

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thinking about families, how does your
preparedness plan shift when you need

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to factor in, maybe elderly relatives,
people with mobility issues and pets.

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What sort of things do people need to
know to make a plan around their entire

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family, not just an able-bodied person.

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Patrick: I tell 'em, don't do the
same thing that you would do for

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yourself that you would do for them.

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So one of the things I advocate
for is I say, you need to create

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a disaster backpack for grandma.

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You need to create a disaster
backpack for your dog.

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You need to create a disaster
backpack for your baby.

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You need to create a disaster
backpack for your extreme valuables.

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As a matter of fact, actually
have done this before.

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I was working with a
high net worth family.

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You're gonna think you're gonna
think this is crazy, and maybe it is.

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They owned a really expensive Xbox.

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It was, it was custom made.

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It had, it was made out of gold.

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It had other stripes on it,
other valuable me metals on it.

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It was like this, like a special
thing that they received.

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And when I was doing their disaster
plan, they said, would you create

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a disaster plan for that Xbox?

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And I said, just an Xbox.

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They said, this is a $50,000 Xbox.

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I said, that's an expensive Xbox.

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And so I said, so we literally
created, we literally created.

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A backpack for the Xbox because
that is because what they told me,

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we're not leaving without that.

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And I said, okay, that's fine.

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Whe, whether you, and I think that
that's crazy or not, is beside the point.

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But the point I'm making is that if you
see something valuable enough, you need

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to have a way to transport it on its own.

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So what I tell families is, is stop
creating a backpack for the family.

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Stop that.

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Create a backpack for yourself, and then.

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Create a backpack for everyone else.

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A matter of fact, in a few
weeks, I have a video coming out.

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I, I worked, uh, with this be, this,
this the sweetest golden retriever

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I've ever worked with in my life.

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And I created a disaster backpack
specifically for that dog because I said.

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To the family.

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You don't you, when you create a disaster
backpack, that's your backpack, yours,

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the backpack you create for grandma,
or for your dog, or for your baby or

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whatever, that's their backpack alone.

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Again, it goes back to this
original concept of if I do

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nothing, no one else will either.

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So I have to create the backpack for them
because they can't do it on their own.

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And so by doing that, I now empower them.

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I now empower them because I'm
giving them what they need.

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The key here is if you are in a position
where you are taking care of someone

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or you're taking care of an animal or
another person, you wanna make sure

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that everything you are including in
that backpack is specifically for them

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and not intermingled with your own.

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Yeah, and that makes a whole lot of sense.

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And that makes sure that, you know,
everybody else, they pick up their bag and

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they, they take it out the door with them.

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It's theirs, they're responsible for it.

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Um, when comes to preparedness,
what are some of the things that

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parents and families are overlooking?

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What are those items that we're
forgetting that we really are going

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to need when something goes wrong?

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Psychologically, um, I have, well,
I was mentioning before I have the

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five pocket method, and one of the
things, one of the five pockets is

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psychological, and people forget that
all the time because we have, you know.

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We have our flashlights and our pocket
knife and the obligatory dry food and the

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water packets, and we've got, you know,
the first aid kit, which, which always

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has like a bee sting kit or a snake bike
kit, even though no one knows how to

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use that stuff except EMTs and stuff.

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But we have it in there anyway because
it makes us feel better, but we forget.

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In a disaster.

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We wanna stay focused and staying
focused means we need to add

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items to our backpacks that make
us feel as though we can refocus.

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So I joke around all the time.

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You and I were just talking about Xboxes.

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As a matter of fact, I say this for real.

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I, I dress high school audiences a lot.

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I say to them, you know, what
is one of the biggest things

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you need to make sure that you
include in your disaster backpack?

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And everyone's on the edge of their seat.

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What?

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And I always go, you're a Nintendo Switch.

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And, and, and, and I, and
they think, think about it.

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And I say, I say, I say, I say, say,
look, if, if you're evacuating to

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somewhere you've never been, or you're in
a situation where something bad happens

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to your house, it doesn't matter whether
you're five 15 or 95, no matter what.

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You wanna have something that's
gonna comfort you, that's gonna

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relax you, it's gonna take you away.

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From what's going on around you.

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So the other thing that I'd say
to folks is, I say it doesn't

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just have to be a game system.

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It can be if they're, if they're a
teenager, but if they're a kid, as

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a matter of fact, they actually have
these, these are small Lego sets and

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they're, they're about this large,
they have about 50 to 70 pieces or so.

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That will keep a child busy for a while
and they can build a small object.

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It's really fun.

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It gives them something tactile to do,
takes them away from what's going on

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and gives them a challenge for adults.

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Weirdly enough, this is gonna sound
really strange, but I actually

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do this with adults all the time.

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It works for kid kids too.

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Incense sticks or something that has a
smell that reminds you of home because

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smell is the closest s sense that we have.

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To memory.

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I don't want you to think I'm
in a disaster shelter in some

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random, you know, school gymnasium.

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I want you to think when you close
your eyes, you're about to go to bed.

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All you do is you smell something
that reminds you of home.

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So as I said to people, lotions,
sometimes just whatever, something

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that will psychologically refocus you.

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To a state of relaxation, and then when
you wake up in the morning, something

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that will get you back into it.

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So, so something along those lines
psychologically, because it makes a

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big difference in how people react, the
decisions that people make and how they're

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gonna behave because the disaster could
be one day, one week, or even a year.

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Andy: Right.

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Yeah, I, I completely agree with that.

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And you, you illustrated
your point really well.

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Like in the, in the time where you get
to sit and rest, at some point you're

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gonna want something that's going to
bring that comfort to you, and it's

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gonna help your brain just to calm down.

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Your unconscious brain is gonna take
over and kind of work on some stuff.

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And when you're done with whatever
it is, the nten, the Nintendo

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Switch, or your favorite book,
you're gonna feel a whole lot better.

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I, that's fantastic, man.

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Patrick: Yeah, and it's worked so
well, especially with, especially when

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you're dealing with people like what
you and I were talking about earlier

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with grandma, with a baby, with a dog,
whatever, and, and someone who is a

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dependent because you wanna make sure
that they have something that makes

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them focus that's unique to them.

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I say this to clients all that
time, don't, you don't have to tell.

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Anyone else what that object is,
you don't have to tell anyone else.

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Just put it in your disaster backpack.

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Yours.

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Yours, not the family's.

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There's no family.

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Backpack.

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Your backpack.

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And that makes it exclusively
something that helps you focus,

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so you're absolutely right.

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I like that.

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Andy: Um, What is something in
all of your experience that you've

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had so far in life, what is.

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One tool or maybe a, a concept
that you have found to be really

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helpful that you really didn't
anticipate being such a big deal.

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Patrick: The philosophy I tell people
all the time is prepare for a disaster

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and you'll never experience one.

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And I do that because my message is
this, because when I, when I, when I

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was first an emergency professional,
I started my career as, as, as

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actually a disaster professional.

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I'd actually worked in ambulances.

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I'd actually worked in ambulances years
prior, but Hurricane Katrina is when I

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became an emergency professional, and.

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I just felt like it's overwhelming
and all I hear about is this is

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the age of disasters and there's
no way you're gonna be able to, to,

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to, to, to prevent these things.

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And I noticed that.

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At some point, everyone's going
to experience a disaster, and the

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messages are always doom and gloom.

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All we have to do is have these big
prepper sts where we have enough, you

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know, you know enough supplies to last
us through the apocalypse and stuff.

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And I just go, wait a
minute, wait a minute.

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We live in modern human management
systems and this is the best we got.

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This is it.

463
00:24:02,931 --> 00:24:07,161
And so what I did was I said to
myself, you know what is, uh, you

464
00:24:07,161 --> 00:24:08,451
know how I'm gonna change the world?

465
00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:14,091
I'm gonna change the world by
changing the way we view disasters,

466
00:24:14,751 --> 00:24:19,071
because I believe firmly that you
never have to experience a disaster

467
00:24:19,071 --> 00:24:21,051
in your entire life, and you don't.

468
00:24:21,576 --> 00:24:25,416
No one ever has to because
here's what a disaster is.

469
00:24:25,416 --> 00:24:27,246
And, and I, I do this whenever I keynote.

470
00:24:27,246 --> 00:24:27,906
I keynote a lot.

471
00:24:27,906 --> 00:24:31,236
So I speak in front of large audiences
and I would say, okay guys, so

472
00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:37,056
let's imagine, alright, it's, uh,
the Bay area of California, okay?

473
00:24:37,596 --> 00:24:43,146
And the bay area of California gets
a 10.0 earthquake, 10.0 earthquake.

474
00:24:43,686 --> 00:24:46,536
And I say, how many of you
believe that that's a disaster?

475
00:24:46,536 --> 00:24:50,166
And I get a bunch of hand raises
and I say, what if I told you.

476
00:24:51,651 --> 00:24:56,751
That the year of this 10.0
earthquake was 20,000 BCE.

477
00:24:57,171 --> 00:24:59,241
So 20,000 year.

478
00:24:59,241 --> 00:25:02,241
So 20,000 years before Christ that long,

479
00:25:04,251 --> 00:25:06,021
and there's no one who lives there.

480
00:25:07,071 --> 00:25:09,681
All of a sudden everyone
thinks, well, I guess it's not.

481
00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:15,021
And so, 'cause the message I say
to people is, is look, the disaster

482
00:25:15,021 --> 00:25:18,261
only occurs when a natural event.

483
00:25:19,356 --> 00:25:25,596
Disrupts our daily routine, human
management systems, governments,

484
00:25:25,596 --> 00:25:28,236
businesses, families, all that stuff.

485
00:25:28,506 --> 00:25:34,926
So what I say to people is, is I say,
look, if you properly apply what I

486
00:25:34,926 --> 00:25:39,336
teach you using backpacks and using
other systems and having different

487
00:25:39,336 --> 00:25:44,976
philosophies and approaches, then all
of a sudden if you have an earthquake,

488
00:25:45,396 --> 00:25:47,611
whether it's a 1.0 or an 8.0.

489
00:25:49,296 --> 00:25:52,656
You're not gonna be experiencing
a disaster at all, because

490
00:25:52,656 --> 00:25:55,656
what's gonna happen is you
are gonna be prepared enough.

491
00:25:55,836 --> 00:26:00,246
I'm gonna put you in a position where
you're gonna be stronger afterwards.

492
00:26:00,516 --> 00:26:04,956
That's how I want you to define
a disaster, and that's what I've

493
00:26:04,956 --> 00:26:09,066
done, is I believe we have the
definition wrong of a disaster.

494
00:26:09,276 --> 00:26:11,526
This is how I define a disaster.

495
00:26:12,306 --> 00:26:15,606
A disaster occurs when you are weaker.

496
00:26:16,401 --> 00:26:19,791
After that event, whether it's
a, whether it's a category five

497
00:26:19,791 --> 00:26:22,611
hurricane or a category one
hurricane, and I've been in both.

498
00:26:23,481 --> 00:26:23,721
Okay?

499
00:26:25,101 --> 00:26:30,681
If after that hurricane, whatever
size it is, were you weaker afterwards

500
00:26:30,681 --> 00:26:32,481
or were you stronger afterwards?

501
00:26:33,651 --> 00:26:36,921
And that tells me whether
you experienced a disaster.

502
00:26:36,921 --> 00:26:39,081
Now the community can
experience a disaster, but

503
00:26:39,081 --> 00:26:39,896
that doesn't mean you have to.

504
00:26:40,596 --> 00:26:41,766
That's what I say to people the time.

505
00:26:42,066 --> 00:26:44,646
You don't have to, your business
certainly doesn't have to, because I

506
00:26:44,646 --> 00:26:50,196
tell this story about, uh, in, during
the San Francisco earthquake, which

507
00:26:50,196 --> 00:26:55,476
occurred in the early 20th century, there
was a man from Italy, a businessman.

508
00:26:55,476 --> 00:26:59,556
He ran a bank called the Bank of Italy,
and his bank was reduced to rubble.

509
00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:05,556
And what he did was he pulled out a
safe from the bank and he took it out

510
00:27:05,556 --> 00:27:08,016
in the street, and he sat out a table.

511
00:27:08,826 --> 00:27:13,566
He took out his his ledger book and
he had a pen, and anybody who walked

512
00:27:13,566 --> 00:27:17,886
up to him and asked him for a loan, he
gave it to them with just a handshake,

513
00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:22,866
and he gave away all
the money in that safe.

514
00:27:23,586 --> 00:27:28,596
And of all the money he gave out,
98% of it was paid back later.

515
00:27:29,931 --> 00:27:32,721
And in fact, he was able to build it.

516
00:27:32,721 --> 00:27:34,431
He actually renamed his bank.

517
00:27:34,431 --> 00:27:35,421
His bank had been destroyed.

518
00:27:35,421 --> 00:27:36,651
It was called the Bank of Italy.

519
00:27:36,741 --> 00:27:39,136
He changed the bank
name to Bank of America.

520
00:27:40,431 --> 00:27:44,331
And that's one of the ways he was
able to take the, the disaster.

521
00:27:44,451 --> 00:27:47,571
He was able to take it and say,
listen, I'm gonna empower you.

522
00:27:47,571 --> 00:27:50,931
And the greatest stories I hear about
in every disaster are people who say,

523
00:27:51,171 --> 00:27:55,551
I'm gonna take this experience and I'm
gonna find a way to make myself better,

524
00:27:55,791 --> 00:27:58,131
my business better, my community better.

525
00:27:58,731 --> 00:28:00,591
I'm gonna make a stronger overall.

526
00:28:00,801 --> 00:28:04,161
That, and that is true
resilience right there.

527
00:28:04,251 --> 00:28:07,491
That is what will mean if
you prepare for a disaster.

528
00:28:07,551 --> 00:28:10,071
You will never, ever, ever experience one.

529
00:28:10,071 --> 00:28:13,191
But it's a, but it's a sense that we
have to put ourselves in the position

530
00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:17,331
to realize that if we can do that,
that is the biggest shift and that

531
00:28:17,331 --> 00:28:20,211
is the largest thing that I have
learned in my time in this profession.

532
00:28:21,276 --> 00:28:24,186
That's a phenomenal,
uh, point of view, man.

533
00:28:24,276 --> 00:28:27,936
Um, I, I had never thought about it
that way before, but yeah, I mean,

534
00:28:27,936 --> 00:28:30,576
I could tell you I've been through,
you know, big hurricanes and things

535
00:28:30,576 --> 00:28:34,566
like that and usually, you know, I've
come out, you know, on top and in a

536
00:28:34,566 --> 00:28:35,886
better position, me and my family.

537
00:28:35,886 --> 00:28:41,106
But, you know, now that I, I, I look
at your de definition of a disaster.

538
00:28:41,106 --> 00:28:44,196
Like, yeah, my community had a
disaster, but my family didn't.

539
00:28:44,436 --> 00:28:46,956
You know, that's, that's
a big mindset shift.

540
00:28:48,201 --> 00:28:51,921
Well, and one of the things I say to
people all the time is I, I say, say,

541
00:28:51,921 --> 00:28:54,681
look, you know, I understand that,
that, you know, we've gone through

542
00:28:54,681 --> 00:28:59,721
something large here, but afterward,
look at what you're doing and saying

543
00:29:00,411 --> 00:29:01,936
it's not what's been destroyed.

544
00:29:03,801 --> 00:29:06,801
It's what's been suddenly revealed to you?

545
00:29:07,401 --> 00:29:10,491
What has been revealed to
you during the pandemic?

546
00:29:10,551 --> 00:29:12,741
I say this to folks constantly.

547
00:29:12,741 --> 00:29:16,191
When I keynote, I say to them,
how many of you remember COVID?

548
00:29:16,221 --> 00:29:19,791
Every hand goes up and I say,
how many of you were home?

549
00:29:20,361 --> 00:29:21,771
How many of you stayed home?

550
00:29:22,461 --> 00:29:24,561
Just were home for at least
for some period of time.

551
00:29:24,561 --> 00:29:26,151
You didn't know if you
were gonna be working.

552
00:29:26,331 --> 00:29:28,491
You didn't know if you still
had a job afterwards, and your

553
00:29:28,491 --> 00:29:29,751
job said, don't do anything.

554
00:29:29,751 --> 00:29:30,501
Just stay at home.

555
00:29:30,651 --> 00:29:33,201
And a lot of hands go up about 80 to 90%.

556
00:29:33,951 --> 00:29:41,241
And I always say, you know how 10, 15
years ago you always said, you know,

557
00:29:42,291 --> 00:29:44,331
I've really been wanting to do blank.

558
00:29:45,006 --> 00:29:49,026
I've really been wanting to think about
blank, like changing my job or doing

559
00:29:49,026 --> 00:29:51,186
something new or moving somewhere.

560
00:29:51,246 --> 00:29:53,916
And you know how you never had
the time to think about that?

561
00:29:53,946 --> 00:29:54,321
Well, guess what?

562
00:29:55,446 --> 00:29:56,376
That was the time.

563
00:29:56,766 --> 00:29:59,046
That was the time you had, yes.

564
00:29:59,046 --> 00:30:02,376
There was something destroy your
normal way of working was destroyed.

565
00:30:02,466 --> 00:30:02,796
Got it.

566
00:30:03,096 --> 00:30:07,086
But what was revealed to you, what was
revealed to you is that now you have a

567
00:30:07,086 --> 00:30:12,606
few days where you can sit and think,
what can I do to make myself better?

568
00:30:12,786 --> 00:30:17,016
I actually had this happen a number
of times where we, I had people who

569
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:21,276
were, uh, young millennials, so people
who were born after, say, 1995 or so.

570
00:30:22,381 --> 00:30:27,601
A lot of those folks, they sparked a great
resignation because a lot of them said,

571
00:30:27,871 --> 00:30:29,851
you know what, I'm in a job I don't like.

572
00:30:29,881 --> 00:30:33,571
I'm in a profession I don't like, I
don't, I'm in a place I don't like.

573
00:30:33,571 --> 00:30:35,671
I wanna change the way I live my my life.

574
00:30:35,851 --> 00:30:41,311
And they took COVID and they said, I'm
gonna turn COV into a success for me.

575
00:30:42,171 --> 00:30:46,431
I'm gonna take this opportunity
that's really once in a lifetime and

576
00:30:46,431 --> 00:30:49,761
I'm going to change what I'm doing
because I get a chance to, because

577
00:30:49,761 --> 00:30:54,831
the world is, is in a chaotic place
and there's real opportunity there.

578
00:30:55,371 --> 00:30:57,111
So that's why.

579
00:30:57,846 --> 00:31:03,726
When I talk to people about disasters,
I, I say, I want you to think about it on

580
00:31:03,726 --> 00:31:06,036
how is this going to make you stronger?

581
00:31:06,036 --> 00:31:07,446
Don't think about your
home being destroyed.

582
00:31:07,446 --> 00:31:07,986
That's sad.

583
00:31:08,226 --> 00:31:08,766
Absolutely.

584
00:31:08,766 --> 00:31:09,936
Do need to grieve about that?

585
00:31:10,266 --> 00:31:11,046
Absolutely.

586
00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:12,126
No doubt.

587
00:31:12,396 --> 00:31:16,626
We need to, I, I would give you a
shoulder to cry on, but after we're done.

588
00:31:17,871 --> 00:31:22,371
Then we're going to say, how can
I make myself better and stronger?

589
00:31:22,431 --> 00:31:23,841
Do I still wanna live here?

590
00:31:23,901 --> 00:31:24,201
Yes.

591
00:31:24,231 --> 00:31:24,771
Okay, fine.

592
00:31:24,831 --> 00:31:25,881
Are we gonna rebuild the house?

593
00:31:26,001 --> 00:31:26,301
Great.

594
00:31:26,541 --> 00:31:28,731
Or what things do we need
to change or whatever?

595
00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:30,291
Or maybe we decide we don't
wanna change anything.

596
00:31:30,291 --> 00:31:31,071
We just say, you know what?

597
00:31:31,461 --> 00:31:34,251
I live here, I'm gonna deal with
hurricanes every 10 years that are gonna

598
00:31:34,251 --> 00:31:36,381
be cat fives, and I just accept that.

599
00:31:36,711 --> 00:31:41,091
And so whatever it is, I just tell
people, we need to get your mindset

600
00:31:41,091 --> 00:31:42,561
back because you're not a victim.

601
00:31:42,591 --> 00:31:43,611
I'm not gonna let you.

602
00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:48,426
A, I want you to become a stronger
person afterwards, and I'm gonna say,

603
00:31:48,636 --> 00:31:53,706
Hey, the disaster, it didn't make
you a, it gave you an opportunity you

604
00:31:53,706 --> 00:31:55,776
never knew existed in the first place.

605
00:31:56,016 --> 00:31:59,376
And then that's how I change people's
mentality about these things.

606
00:32:00,006 --> 00:32:04,296
Andy: Yeah, man, resilience is so
important, uh, is a very key message

607
00:32:04,296 --> 00:32:07,056
for what you're telling me here, and
I, and I greatly appreciate that.

608
00:32:07,356 --> 00:32:11,946
There is one thing that I want to,
um, ask you about and, and this

609
00:32:11,946 --> 00:32:13,446
one seems to be hard for people.

610
00:32:13,836 --> 00:32:14,256
Um.

611
00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:18,426
When dealing with something like a
wildfire or a hurricane, there's always

612
00:32:18,426 --> 00:32:23,016
people are going to say, Hey, there's
gonna be like an evacuation suggestion,

613
00:32:23,016 --> 00:32:25,686
or there's gonna be an order for a family.

614
00:32:25,746 --> 00:32:28,956
When do they need to evacuate?

615
00:32:28,956 --> 00:32:31,836
When do they need to know that
they need to try to ride it out?

616
00:32:31,866 --> 00:32:32,716
What's your thoughts there?

617
00:32:33,055 --> 00:32:33,355
I

618
00:32:33,355 --> 00:32:35,965
Patrick: say to them, go
back to your backpack.

619
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,460
Open up your backpack and
say, can I, can I stay here?

620
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,860
Or do I need to evacuate now?

621
00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:51,130
Because if somebody says to me,
well, I live in this big house, okay.

622
00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:52,750
And it's like a castle almost.

623
00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:53,860
And I say, oh wow, great.

624
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:55,750
And they go, we have a cat three.

625
00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:56,590
And I said, okay, fine.

626
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,080
I'm not gonna leave because
I don't need to leave.

627
00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:02,230
Because I'm fine, because
my house is great.

628
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:04,660
And so I say to them, let's
look at your backpack.

629
00:33:04,930 --> 00:33:09,490
Do you have the supplies
to shelter in place?

630
00:33:10,210 --> 00:33:11,500
Can you do that?

631
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,570
Because that will tell me everything.

632
00:33:13,570 --> 00:33:14,830
So I'll look in your pantry.

633
00:33:14,830 --> 00:33:15,910
I'll look in your backpack.

634
00:33:15,910 --> 00:33:16,630
I'll look at everything.

635
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,330
Now for people who say, I live in a
place that's near to the coast and

636
00:33:22,330 --> 00:33:24,670
I have to evacuate no matter what.

637
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:29,020
I will open up their backpack and I
will say, where are you evacuating to?

638
00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:32,230
And I'll pull out a map and the map
will say it'll actually be circled.

639
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:33,790
It's not a written plan, it's just a map.

640
00:33:33,790 --> 00:33:36,130
And they've circled two places
where they're gonna evacuate to.

641
00:33:37,060 --> 00:33:38,050
And I say, okay, great.

642
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,940
If that's what you're gonna do and you
need to evacuate to those places, you

643
00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:45,190
need to do that now because you know what?

644
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,220
There's gonna be a lot of traffic and
you're not gonna make it otherwise.

645
00:33:48,835 --> 00:33:55,285
So it all depends on looking at
what your backpack has in it and

646
00:33:55,285 --> 00:33:57,955
saying, do I need to do this now?

647
00:33:57,955 --> 00:33:59,635
Is it better to do this now?

648
00:33:59,755 --> 00:34:03,925
Because frankly, don't wait for law
enforcement to tell you to leave.

649
00:34:04,105 --> 00:34:07,885
If you live in a place that is too
dangerous and there's one road in

650
00:34:07,885 --> 00:34:11,395
and out and your disaster backpack
says, I have to travel, you know,

651
00:34:11,395 --> 00:34:15,280
30, 40, 50 miles and you live in
Los Angeles, you need to leave now.

652
00:34:16,630 --> 00:34:20,050
You don't need to wait for, for,
for, for someone in a uniform

653
00:34:20,050 --> 00:34:21,550
and a badge to tell you to leave.

654
00:34:21,730 --> 00:34:25,600
In fact, one of the things I say to
folks, I say, listen, if you plan

655
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,850
on sheltering in place, love it.

656
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,480
Great.

657
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,350
Stay in place.

658
00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:30,010
Awesome.

659
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,570
Here's the thing, make sure that
what you have in your backpack

660
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,180
empowers you to stay in place.

661
00:34:38,170 --> 00:34:40,480
Does it give you the tools you need?

662
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:47,050
To be successful during and after that
disaster, because if it doesn't, you're

663
00:34:47,050 --> 00:34:48,760
gonna experience a, a, a disaster.

664
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,360
There's no doubt.

665
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:50,290
There's no doubt.

666
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:56,200
But if you prepare yourself well
enough now you're not gonna have one.

667
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,035
Because if it's just.

668
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:02,020
A situation where you're gonna have
to evacuate ahead of a hurricane.

669
00:35:02,170 --> 00:35:06,310
I'll never forget this, and I was a young
Cal, I'm, I'm obviously from California

670
00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:11,770
originally, and I moved to Louisiana after
Hurricane Katrina, after I got, got a job

671
00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:13,360
in the gout in, in the governor's office.

672
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,860
And I, I loved working for them.

673
00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:15,460
It was amazing.

674
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,220
But when I went into private service, um,
I got hired to do this hurricane planning

675
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:24,220
for this large construction site Okay.

676
00:35:24,220 --> 00:35:24,820
In Florida.

677
00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:26,410
So I went down to Florida.

678
00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:33,910
And I talked to the site supervisor and
I said, okay, so, so senior management

679
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:38,830
of this construction company has said
to me, if we have a hurricane, uh,

680
00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:40,360
you guys need to evacuate the site.

681
00:35:40,930 --> 00:35:43,480
Doesn't matter whether it's
a category one, category two,

682
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,130
whatever, we have to evacuate.

683
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:49,780
And the two guys who were the
site supervisors started laughing

684
00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:53,315
and they turned to me and said,
young man, where are you from?

685
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,810
I said, I'm from California.

686
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,040
And they said, you don't
know anything about Florida.

687
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:04,750
I don't even stop mowing my lawn
unless it's a category three or higher.

688
00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:11,000
So, and he said, for us, Floridians,
we understand what a cat one's about.

689
00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:15,130
We understand what a CAT two is
about, but once it starts getting

690
00:36:15,130 --> 00:36:18,490
to a Cat three, cat four, cat five,
all of a sudden we decide to leave.

691
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:22,510
And I can appreciate what he said and it,
and it's a really great lesson actually,

692
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:27,730
because learning and talking to people
locally will give you so much information

693
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:30,040
on how people respond to disasters.

694
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,120
But one of the things I tell folks is, is
I say, regardless of whether you're gonna

695
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,700
stay on the construction site or not,
in this case, they weren't allowed to.

696
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:38,440
Corporate policies that they
had to leave no matter what.

697
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,130
They could stay at home.

698
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,060
They can't, the site.

699
00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:43,340
What I say to people all the
time, you, you know, you know

700
00:36:43,340 --> 00:36:46,070
when somebody says, well, if it's
a cat two, I'm gonna stay here.

701
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:50,060
I always say, what I want you to assume
is, is it's gonna be a cat three.

702
00:36:50,330 --> 00:36:56,900
Always assume it's one rank higher than
what you are expecting, because then

703
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,230
you'll then you're never caught unaware.

704
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Because we're getting hurricanes now
that go from Cat two to Cat three to Cat

705
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,150
four in a period of just a few hours.

706
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:08,500
It's happened multiple times now.

707
00:37:08,590 --> 00:37:10,240
I thought it was only gonna
happen once and ended up

708
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,470
happening four or five times now.

709
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:15,280
So what I say to folks is I
say, look at your backpack.

710
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:20,620
If you need to evacuate, you need to say,
does my backpack allow me to evacuate?

711
00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:21,070
Then.

712
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,290
You say we're expecting a cat two, uh,
so I'm gonna assume it's a cat three.

713
00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:29,280
So I'm gonna stop mowing my lawn and I'm
gonna decide, am I gonna stay here or not?

714
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,720
That will depend on how much
preparedness have you done.

715
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:37,830
And the backpack is the easiest way
for me to assess those things because

716
00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:40,710
then I can say, Hey, look, look,
you have an evacuation location.

717
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:44,760
It's a hundred miles away, or two
oh miles away, grads, grandma's

718
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,050
house in Atlanta, or whatever.

719
00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:47,190
You need to leave now.

720
00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:48,540
You need to leave.

721
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:48,900
Leave now.

722
00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:51,595
If you can't stay here, leave now.

723
00:37:52,075 --> 00:37:53,545
Don't wait for the weather person.

724
00:37:53,545 --> 00:37:55,525
Just leave now and then
just say it's a road trip.

725
00:37:56,395 --> 00:37:58,675
Road trip, gonna go see grandma,
then we're gonna come back.

726
00:37:59,215 --> 00:38:02,455
They'll But if you say, I'm gonna
shelter in place, I just say, does

727
00:38:02,455 --> 00:38:03,835
your backpack allow you to do that?

728
00:38:04,435 --> 00:38:05,815
Because I don't know what
kind of house you have.

729
00:38:05,815 --> 00:38:07,585
I mean, I don't know any of that
stuff, but whatever house it is,

730
00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:10,735
I always say to them, do you have
enough based on where you live?

731
00:38:10,735 --> 00:38:13,225
I actually work with people who
are high net worth, who just,

732
00:38:13,225 --> 00:38:14,395
they just stay in their house.

733
00:38:15,055 --> 00:38:16,135
They just, why not?

734
00:38:16,135 --> 00:38:17,125
They live in a huge place.

735
00:38:17,125 --> 00:38:17,815
It's all defended.

736
00:38:17,815 --> 00:38:18,835
Well, you know what I mean?

737
00:38:18,835 --> 00:38:19,675
It's no problem.

738
00:38:19,675 --> 00:38:23,695
It's hard for them to leave, and so
it's only certain situations, but that's

739
00:38:23,695 --> 00:38:24,865
what I tell families all the time.

740
00:38:25,075 --> 00:38:29,005
Don't let the badges and don't let
the uniforms tell you when to leave.

741
00:38:29,275 --> 00:38:33,560
You leave based on what your
backpack will allow you to do.

742
00:38:33,805 --> 00:38:38,575
In other words, what your preparedness
has done in preventing that disaster.

743
00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:40,134
Andy: I love it, Patrick.

744
00:38:40,134 --> 00:38:40,944
That is awesome.

745
00:38:41,334 --> 00:38:45,714
Um, you know, as we wrap up here, you
have given me a whole lot of stuff to

746
00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:48,264
think about, uh, a, a big mind shift here.

747
00:38:48,834 --> 00:38:55,254
Um, if you could leave families with one
core preparedness principle that they can

748
00:38:55,254 --> 00:38:57,624
just carry with them, what's it gonna be?

749
00:38:58,094 --> 00:39:01,897
Patrick: Every single person
is responsible for their

750
00:39:01,897 --> 00:39:03,067
own disaster response.

751
00:39:03,892 --> 00:39:06,142
Whether they're seven or 70.

752
00:39:06,832 --> 00:39:10,282
Now, that doesn't mean you have to
like have it all on their own, but you

753
00:39:10,282 --> 00:39:13,012
have to let them know you can do it.

754
00:39:14,002 --> 00:39:14,842
You can do it.

755
00:39:14,992 --> 00:39:18,832
Now, if there's somebody who has
dementia or someone who is just too

756
00:39:18,832 --> 00:39:21,022
young, then of course you help them.

757
00:39:21,562 --> 00:39:23,152
Because they can't do it on their own.

758
00:39:23,602 --> 00:39:27,472
But for most families, when we're
talking about your kids, I don't

759
00:39:27,472 --> 00:39:31,162
want you to say, gee, my child is
seven years old, therefore they can't

760
00:39:31,162 --> 00:39:32,632
create their own disaster backpack.

761
00:39:32,722 --> 00:39:35,092
I'm gonna prove that to you
that that's totally wrong.

762
00:39:35,962 --> 00:39:40,492
Um, kids have to understand that when
they're on a field trip, when they

763
00:39:40,492 --> 00:39:45,652
are at school, when they are on the
bus, it is their disaster response.

764
00:39:45,892 --> 00:39:50,062
Not mom and dads, not the teachers,
not the school bus drivers.

765
00:39:50,062 --> 00:39:51,082
It's on their own.

766
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:57,022
And that seems harsh, but it's not because
in the end you are giving them trust.

767
00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:02,677
You are saying, I believe you can
do it when you do it for them.

768
00:40:02,827 --> 00:40:07,147
You are saying you are not trustworthy
enough to do it on your own.

769
00:40:07,207 --> 00:40:11,377
And I can tell you, working with
a 7-year-old and using school

770
00:40:11,377 --> 00:40:15,997
supplies to build a wildfire
shelter entirely on our own.

771
00:40:16,177 --> 00:40:18,397
I can tell you right now, it can be done.

772
00:40:18,997 --> 00:40:23,887
It can absolutely be done, but you've
got to trust them and empower them.

773
00:40:24,097 --> 00:40:31,147
When you do that, you will see a
magical transformation in how people

774
00:40:31,147 --> 00:40:33,937
behave and how people are prepared.

775
00:40:33,937 --> 00:40:37,537
So, and that's why I do the videos
that I do in the videos I'm gonna be

776
00:40:37,537 --> 00:40:42,727
doing, because I want people to see,
everybody can make this interesting.

777
00:40:42,727 --> 00:40:45,607
It can be fun, it can be empowering,
and it can be something where

778
00:40:45,607 --> 00:40:47,587
every single person can prevent.

779
00:40:49,222 --> 00:40:49,762
Themselves.

780
00:40:50,504 --> 00:40:53,654
Andy: Patrick, man, I so
appreciate your time today.

781
00:40:53,654 --> 00:40:56,594
I am excited about what you're
gonna be doing in the future.

782
00:40:56,834 --> 00:40:59,054
Uh, I know people listening are as well.

783
00:40:59,054 --> 00:41:02,684
Where can people find you online so they
can follow along with your journey here?

784
00:41:03,063 --> 00:41:06,213
Patrick: Well, my website
is disaster patrick.com.

785
00:41:06,273 --> 00:41:09,483
Um, and I will say this, which
is I have a YouTube channel.

786
00:41:09,483 --> 00:41:10,443
It's brand new.

787
00:41:10,653 --> 00:41:12,483
We've got all kinds of videos going up.

788
00:41:12,483 --> 00:41:14,163
So I just put up a video.

789
00:41:14,163 --> 00:41:16,713
Uh, we put up our first video
a while ago, uh, because we

790
00:41:16,713 --> 00:41:17,853
were just testing the waters.

791
00:41:18,023 --> 00:41:21,113
I evacuated 240 cats in 90 minutes.

792
00:41:21,383 --> 00:41:24,143
Um, I did CPR for 28 straight hours.

793
00:41:24,143 --> 00:41:26,993
I set a world record and now
we're doing this Lego one.

794
00:41:26,993 --> 00:41:33,533
I have a lot of other videos, and in fact,
this month, this month, starting today

795
00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:37,883
actually, um, we are putting up videos.

796
00:41:38,243 --> 00:41:44,723
It's a 30 day challenge I'm giving
to families where every single day.

797
00:41:45,738 --> 00:41:51,768
I will take you from an empty
backpack to a totally completely

798
00:41:52,158 --> 00:41:56,508
filled backpack for yourself,
for your kids, everybody, and it.

799
00:41:57,138 --> 00:41:58,848
And I walk you through the steps.

800
00:41:58,848 --> 00:42:01,518
And then on the weekends, Eddie, I
give them like drills and things.

801
00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:06,018
I say, Hey, look, on one day I want
you to cook and you can't use any heat.

802
00:42:07,008 --> 00:42:09,558
You have to just eat
everything just cold as it is.

803
00:42:09,558 --> 00:42:10,368
Can you do that?

804
00:42:10,578 --> 00:42:13,878
And then on the last day, I, I
say this, actually say, uh, there,

805
00:42:13,878 --> 00:42:16,968
there's actually a challenge, I say
where I, I have them doing everything

806
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:18,318
for a whole day in the dark.

807
00:42:18,678 --> 00:42:22,458
Now, I'm not saying everyone's gonna
do that, but I want to challenge

808
00:42:22,458 --> 00:42:24,618
people to say, here are the steps.

809
00:42:24,618 --> 00:42:29,478
So we start on day one and I take them
through my five pocket method and walk

810
00:42:29,478 --> 00:42:33,948
them through everything they're gonna
need in that backpack and get this.

811
00:42:34,668 --> 00:42:41,388
They don't have to write down a single
word, not one thing on that disaster plan.

812
00:42:41,388 --> 00:42:42,858
You don't have to write a disaster plan.

813
00:42:43,068 --> 00:42:47,088
We're gonna construct your backpack
totally from scratch, and by the 30th day,

814
00:42:47,268 --> 00:42:49,728
you'll have a filled backpack entirely.

815
00:42:49,908 --> 00:42:51,168
So that's how we're starting.

816
00:42:51,168 --> 00:42:53,028
I got a ton of other videos going up.

817
00:42:53,178 --> 00:42:55,728
I got explainer videos,
I got reaction videos.

818
00:42:55,728 --> 00:42:57,108
I've got all kinds of stuff going up.

819
00:42:57,668 --> 00:43:01,718
All I wanna do for everyone out there is I
hope you go on my YouTube channel and sub

820
00:43:01,718 --> 00:43:04,568
it because we have so many great videos.

821
00:43:04,568 --> 00:43:06,008
I want to empower you.

822
00:43:06,008 --> 00:43:08,828
I want you to feel like you can
do it because you know what?

823
00:43:08,978 --> 00:43:10,598
I've been doing this for 20 years.

824
00:43:11,138 --> 00:43:13,718
You can, and I'm gonna show you how.

825
00:43:14,618 --> 00:43:15,488
Thank you for having me today.

826
00:43:15,488 --> 00:43:16,028
I appreciate it.

827
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,399
Andy: Yeah.

828
00:43:16,399 --> 00:43:17,394
Patrick, thank you so much.

829
00:43:17,634 --> 00:43:19,699
I look forward to what
you're doing in the future.

830
00:43:19,759 --> 00:43:20,539
Best of luck, man.

831
00:43:20,935 --> 00:43:21,775
Patrick: Thank you very much.

832
00:43:25,838 --> 00:43:28,928
Andy: Well, that's all that we have for
The Secure Family Podcast for today.

833
00:43:28,958 --> 00:43:30,278
Thank you, friend for listening.

834
00:43:30,578 --> 00:43:33,458
Thanks again to Disaster
Patrick for being on the show.

835
00:43:33,728 --> 00:43:36,938
For more on him, check
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836
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