Ryan McCormick: Our featured guest today.
Ryan McCormick: I'm very excited for our featured guest
Ryan McCormick: today.
Ryan McCormick: His name is Danny Goeller and you can learn
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Dan Goler: Code of Reality.
Dan Goler: You know what I did.
Ryan McCormick: When we start.
Ryan McCormick: I'm going to let you promote the YouTube
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Ryan McCormick: I think I'm a little dyslexic.
Dan Goler: Oh, me too, here you go.
Dan Goler: I'm just going to type it for you.
Dan Goler: There you go.
Ryan McCormick: Awesome.
Ryan McCormick: All right, let me see, so I can look at it
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Dan Goler: I'm the same way, so don't worry about it.
Dan Goler: I have a very hard time reading, especially
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Dan Goler: We're on the same page.
Ryan McCormick: Awesome, all right, there we go.
Ryan McCormick: Three, two, one.
Ryan McCormick: I'm very excited for our featured guest
Ryan McCormick: today, dan goler.
Ryan McCormick: You can learn more about him by going to
Ryan McCormick: two different places.
Ryan McCormick: One is his website code of realitycom and
Ryan McCormick: his youtube channel, dan go thoughts.
Ryan McCormick: Dan, how are you, sir?
Ryan McCormick: Welcome to the show I'm doing amazing.
Dan Goler: How are you, ryan?
Ryan McCormick: good to have you thank you, I'm doing
Ryan McCormick: unbelievable.
Ryan McCormick: So you came up with this pretty interesting
Ryan McCormick: discovery.
Ryan McCormick: It seems that you've actually discovered a
Ryan McCormick: backdoor into the matrix of control that
Ryan McCormick: seems to be rapidly controlling us.
Ryan McCormick: Can you please give us a synopsis of this
Ryan McCormick: incredible discovery?
Dan Goler: Yeah, that would be an accurate description.
Dan Goler: Description.
Dan Goler: Obviously, it's a pretty big claim, but
Dan Goler: essentially I discovered that if you uh
Dan Goler: project a diffracted laser on the surface
Dan Goler: and you ingest dmt, you will see code
Dan Goler: running in the surface and on the face of
Dan Goler: it.
Dan Goler: The statement is always a little
Dan Goler: underwhelming because there's so many
Dan Goler: moving parts here and, uh, one of the first
Dan Goler: things that come to mind is like well, wait
Dan Goler: a second.
Dan Goler: Did you say dmt, the most uh psychedelic
Dan Goler: known to men?
Dan Goler: Uh, yeah, buddy, what makes you think that
Dan Goler: it's any different than any other
Dan Goler: hallucination?
Dan Goler: Well, that's where, that's where the
Dan Goler: conversation begins.
Dan Goler: Uh, the details of how it appears and
Dan Goler: everything that has to do with with the way
Dan Goler: it's operating, the fact that it is
Dan Goler: replicable across everybody, across all
Dan Goler: times, across all locations.
Dan Goler: Essentially it's just there and it never
Dan Goler: changes in its essence or the way that it
Dan Goler: behaves for anybody.
Dan Goler: Or, if you change, really any other
Dan Goler: parameter seems to be pointing to something
Dan Goler: a little different.
Dan Goler: That's the gist of it and I started talking
Dan Goler: about years ago and obviously all the
Dan Goler: things that you would expect have happened,
Dan Goler: which is, some people got excited, some
Dan Goler: people got started laughing at it, other
Dan Goler: people uh tried to explain it away and I
Dan Goler: just kept on trying to get the interest of
Dan Goler: scientists and kept on running my own
Dan Goler: research and it has now developed to a
Dan Goler: level where a lot of people know about this
Dan Goler: and now the leading scientists in the field
Dan Goler: are commenting on.
Dan Goler: It Doesn't mean that they're all on board
Dan Goler: with my conclusions, but it is now a real
Dan Goler: conversation happening at the at the level
Dan Goler: of you know, world-class scientists who are
Dan Goler: studying this.
Dan Goler: Uh joe rogan recently dropped a question
Dan Goler: about it.
Dan Goler: He asked uh rick strassman about it.
Dan Goler: So yeah, that's, that's where we are
Dan Goler: essentially okay.
Ryan McCormick: So I'm gonna go about this and say come
Ryan McCormick: from a skeptical perspective, somebody
Ryan McCormick: who's an athlete say well, look, if you
Ryan McCormick: take DMT, more than likely you're going to
Ryan McCormick: see things.
Ryan McCormick: Why is there such a consistency where
Ryan McCormick: people look at this laser and then look at
Ryan McCormick: this projector and they see something?
Ryan McCormick: Are they all seeing the same exact thing?
Ryan McCormick: So if they're on DMT, maybe they're seeing
Ryan McCormick: visual, intense visuals, but is that
Ryan McCormick: something that is unique?
Ryan McCormick: That the fact that they're seeing the same
Ryan McCormick: exact what practical codes or coding with
Ryan McCormick: this laser?
Dan Goler: that's what makes it such a unique
Dan Goler: discovery it's descriptively what would
Dan Goler: make it salient for more scientifically
Dan Goler: minded people.
Dan Goler: Okay.
Dan Goler: The truth, however, is that the second that
Dan Goler: any individual sees that for themselves,
Dan Goler: there's a knowing there that is immediate,
Dan Goler: so you don't need anybody else to tell you,
Dan Goler: you just oh, oh, I see.
Dan Goler: Okay, so you immediately understand that
Dan Goler: you're looking at something real.
Ryan McCormick: Okay, and have people been able to see this
Ryan McCormick: without being under DMT?
Ryan McCormick: Because we've talked about it on the
Ryan McCormick: program before that if you're able to lower
Ryan McCormick: your brainwave frequencies, go into a theta
Ryan McCormick: or a delta.
Ryan McCormick: My old teacher used to talk about saying
Ryan McCormick: that getting into a deep meditative state
Ryan McCormick: allows your perception to change.
Ryan McCormick: So the closer you are to a dreamlike state,
Ryan McCormick: the more your visualizations will change.
Ryan McCormick: Have you done any work with that where
Ryan McCormick: people are able to see what most people are
Ryan McCormick: able to see on dmt without the use of dmt?
Dan Goler: the first direct and short answer to your
Dan Goler: question.
Dan Goler: I've met a couple of women that could claim
Dan Goler: to have seen, saw the code, being able to
Dan Goler: see the code without the molecule.
Ryan McCormick: Okay.
Dan Goler: I have no reason to doubt them, because
Dan Goler: there was no confabulatory nature to these
Dan Goler: individuals, to these two women.
Dan Goler: So at least to some degree, I have
Dan Goler: confidence that some people should be able
Dan Goler: to see it if they have certain
Dan Goler: prerequisites that I don't quite understand
Dan Goler: yet.
Dan Goler: Is it theta?
Dan Goler: I'm not so sure.
Dan Goler: I think it's very early to say these things,
Dan Goler: even though I know there's a lot of memes
Dan Goler: around it.
Dan Goler: But I think that if we're talking about
Dan Goler: hard science, I think it's barely in its
Dan Goler: infancy, and as a longtime meditator myself,
Dan Goler: I've done many retreats.
Dan Goler: When I do have the time, I meditate two
Dan Goler: hours a day, that's awesome.
Dan Goler: Yeah, well, I'm saying not so much to
Dan Goler: virtue signal, but just to say I'm familiar
Dan Goler: with the pursuit, like I'm familiar with
Dan Goler: the state, so I can make the comparison.
Dan Goler: I personally don't necessarily think that
Dan Goler: they're the same Channel.
Dan Goler: I also, uh, I am very agnostic about us
Dan Goler: being able to achieve any state, what we
Dan Goler: would call naturally.
Dan Goler: I'm not so sure that is the case.
Dan Goler: Some people will, will die on that Hill.
Dan Goler: Uh, I say it's the wrong Hill to die on,
Dan Goler: because if we want to understand things, we
Dan Goler: actually want to investigate what they
Dan Goler: really are.
Dan Goler: There is, uh, this tendency to think that.
Dan Goler: So so, first of all, it's true that all dmt
Dan Goler: is doing is essentially flipping well, all
Dan Goler: substances, they just flip switches in the
Dan Goler: brain that the brain is naturally doing
Dan Goler: itself.
Dan Goler: So it's just telling the brain how to do
Dan Goler: the thing.
Dan Goler: That that part is true.
Dan Goler: However, I would say that it it just might
Dan Goler: be the case that there are certain states
Dan Goler: that require these.
Dan Goler: I I don't know how to frame them because
Dan Goler: they are external in our perception, but
Dan Goler: I'm not sure that they're external as a
Dan Goler: whole.
Dan Goler: You know what I mean.
Dan Goler: Like, if the universe is a as a totality,
Dan Goler: isn't some kind of an operation, then
Dan Goler: within that operation, all the things that
Dan Goler: find themselves to be separately conscious
Dan Goler: are still part of a larger whole and in
Dan Goler: that sense it is justifiable to say it's
Dan Goler: not really separate from you.
Dan Goler: It's more like part of the larger function
Dan Goler: that you can be.
Dan Goler: And that's a mouthful.
Dan Goler: But all I mean to say is that it might be
Dan Goler: that, so like I'm not so sure that nndmt
Dan Goler: states can be achieved by doing the right
Dan Goler: breath work or doing the right meditative
Dan Goler: state, something tells me that you can't,
Dan Goler: you cannot, okay yeah, sometimes you can't
Dan Goler: get to the point.
Ryan McCormick: When I took ayahuasca, one of my most
Ryan McCormick: profound experiences on it was I
Ryan McCormick: distinctively saw a grid.
Ryan McCormick: I actually saw a practical grid of external
Ryan McCormick: reality, and when I saw that, it wasn't
Ryan McCormick: until years later that I was like, oh, I
Ryan McCormick: really think that was a pivotal component
Ryan McCormick: of me coming to the conclusion.
Ryan McCormick: I think this is a biological matrix and
Ryan McCormick: that this whole thing is an illusion.
Ryan McCormick: I really don't know if I mean we talk about
Ryan McCormick: okay, well, you come into the body, the
Ryan McCormick: spirit goes to the body, goes for all these
Ryan McCormick: experiences.
Ryan McCormick: I don't know if this is, you know, a really
Ryan McCormick: authentic living within the physical body,
Ryan McCormick: because maybe the, the another version of
Ryan McCormick: this, is a lot harder and this could be
Ryan McCormick: lighter, a lighter version of it it's just
Ryan McCormick: oh yeah, and I see so many examples of the
Ryan McCormick: world being like an actual matrix.
Ryan McCormick: So when you found this and there's a code
Ryan McCormick: behind it, a couple things came to mind.
Ryan McCormick: I'm actually I want to ask you not just
Ryan McCormick: what you think, but what.
Ryan McCormick: What you feel in your heart about this is
Ryan McCormick: do you feel that that coding behind it is
Ryan McCormick: of a human origin?
Ryan McCormick: Do you feel that the coding behind it is of
Ryan McCormick: another intelligence, maybe designed to put
Ryan McCormick: human beings in a cage or a maze, the same
Ryan McCormick: way we would put gerbils around a maze?
Dan Goler: Yeah, the answer is very clear absolutely
Dan Goler: not human origin.
Ryan McCormick: Okay.
Dan Goler: Yeah, it's absolutely somebody else.
Dan Goler: And again, this is a point that I get a lot
Dan Goler: of pushback on from a lot of the spiritual
Dan Goler: communities, because there seems to be this
Dan Goler: conviction that what are you talking about?
Dan Goler: There is just us, there is just this one
Dan Goler: mind.
Dan Goler: Yeah again, not so sure, oh wow, okay.
Ryan McCormick: so yeah, I know you're talking to a lot of
Ryan McCormick: people in the community.
Ryan McCormick: I mean, or I mean, this is the thing that
Ryan McCormick: there's one universal mind, all points of
Ryan McCormick: attraction of the same mind.
Ryan McCormick: If you are alluding to saying that there's
Ryan McCormick: evidence that there's multiple minds, I am
Ryan McCormick: so relieved because I seriously do not want
Ryan McCormick: to be part of the same.
Ryan McCormick: I don't know.
Ryan McCormick: I kind of would like to be separate.
Ryan McCormick: I like a little bit of separation.
Ryan McCormick: I don't mind being on the same frequency
Ryan McCormick: People like you, people who are learning,
Ryan McCormick: okay, I don't mind being part of that same
Ryan McCormick: mind, but I don't want to be on the same
Ryan McCormick: mind or point of attraction as a person
Ryan McCormick: who's negative and evil.
Ryan McCormick: Am I really part of the same being?
Ryan McCormick: Am I really part of that same being?
Dan Goler: Well, I have bad news and good news.
Dan Goler: Okay, bad news is that you definitely are
Dan Goler: also part of that evil.
Dan Goler: Good news okay, bad news is that you
Dan Goler: definitely are also part of that evil.
Dan Goler: Uh, the good, the good news is that, um,
Dan Goler: you still have a lot of what you?
Dan Goler: Again, it's funny because it it gained a
Dan Goler: negative connotation to it, but I don't
Dan Goler: know why.
Dan Goler: There's a lot of separation still, um, all
Dan Goler: the way up to the omega point, right.
Dan Goler: So I guess what's the omega point.
Dan Goler: well, I guess what you would call the
Dan Goler: ultimate unification of everything, where
Dan Goler: everything sits as a one unit right, which
Dan Goler: you can call it whatever you want, you can
Dan Goler: say god, you can say the world, you can say
Dan Goler: whatever you're comfortable with.
Dan Goler: But I think that ultimately it doesn't
Dan Goler: matter if you what software you're running
Dan Goler: on your, on your brain, it doesn't matter
Dan Goler: if it's physicalism, spiritualism, buddhism,
Dan Goler: christianity, it makes no different
Dan Goler: difference whatsoever.
Dan Goler: Ultimately, I think everybody would admit
Dan Goler: that reality is one thing right.
Dan Goler: So, whatever it is, it doesn't matter.
Dan Goler: The the, the real conundrum and and
Dan Goler: disagreement between the different channels
Dan Goler: of perception of humanity is where this
Dan Goler: consciousness begin so clearly.
Dan Goler: The universe or the multiverse or whatever
Dan Goler: it is, hamsterverse, doesn't matter, it's
Dan Goler: all one thing.
Dan Goler: The question really is that's unambiguous
Dan Goler: and not really something that anybody would
Dan Goler: argue against.
Dan Goler: I think it's just that where is there a
Dan Goler: unifying experience to the whole thing?
Dan Goler: That's really the question, and at this
Dan Goler: point I'm pretty pretty, I guess, pretty
Dan Goler: idealistic.
Dan Goler: So, like idealism is a philosophy, I wear
Dan Goler: that more as a plausible explanation to
Dan Goler: everything than anything else.
Dan Goler: So it is the existence is a mind, and the
Dan Goler: fraction within the mind are the separate
Dan Goler: units of consciousness that we experience
Dan Goler: ourselves as.
Dan Goler: So the way that I see the picture is that,
Dan Goler: yes, there is a unifying field of of minds,
Dan Goler: so the human mind is a one thing and then
Dan Goler: we are all kind of fractions of that, and I
Dan Goler: guess you can say the higher self of humans
Dan Goler: is kind of like this unified mind that
Dan Goler: we're slowly integrating towards back into
Dan Goler: it, and I think that the technological
Dan Goler: story is just a story where our mind is
Dan Goler: currently telling itself.
Dan Goler: So, you know, the internet is basically
Dan Goler: rudimentary, uh, parts of this
Dan Goler: reunification or the understanding that
Dan Goler: we're all one.
Dan Goler: But there are other minds, other pocket
Dan Goler: minds like ours, the ones that are, from
Dan Goler: what I'm seeing, operating the level above
Dan Goler: us and kind of catering to our immediate
Dan Goler: physical environment.
Dan Goler: So the ones that are running our simulation,
Dan Goler: so to speak.
Dan Goler: They are not us, they are not human in
Dan Goler: origin, they have a completely separate
Dan Goler: hive mind, they are another bubble of a
Dan Goler: mind and they interact with one another.
Dan Goler: They're of a higher order, they operate in
Dan Goler: a higher dimensional space, they are
Dan Goler: insectozoids, they are insects and there's
Dan Goler: a lot of other kinds and they're kind of
Dan Goler: hovering, and all of these minds, just like
Dan Goler: any other ecosystem, wait how do you know
Dan Goler: for sure that these beings are insects?
Dan Goler: Because I see them all the time.
Dan Goler: Oh my God, yeah, I see them all the time,
Dan Goler: Like I'm not guessing.
Dan Goler: It's like I'm going and I'm just seeing
Dan Goler: them, and it's as clear as you are to me.
Ryan McCormick: Okay.
Dan Goler: Yeah, and this is, by the way, interesting
Dan Goler: because I'm definitely not the only one
Dan Goler: saying it and I had no idea that other
Dan Goler: people are seeing the same things.
Dan Goler: So the ones that are really interacting
Dan Goler: with that space a lot, it's pretty
Dan Goler: straightforward they are definitely insects.
Dan Goler: So now it's a little disturbing for people
Dan Goler: because we don't tend to not like insects.
Dan Goler: Also, good idea to not kill any.
Ryan McCormick: What do you think?
Ryan McCormick: Do they look at that and say, oh, I don't
Ryan McCormick: tend to not like insects.
Dan Goler: Also good idea to not kill any.
Dan Goler: Um, but what do you?
Dan Goler: What do they do?
Dan Goler: They look at that and say, oh, I don't know,
Dan Goler: but I just wouldn't risk it.
Dan Goler: Um, and they are definitely not.
Dan Goler: Some people think maybe they're malevolent
Dan Goler: or none of that.
Dan Goler: This emotion doesn't even make sense in the
Dan Goler: context of how they're operating.
Dan Goler: They are very structural in nature.
Dan Goler: They care about, which I also think, why
Dan Goler: they are kind of like the weavers, or
Dan Goler: weavers of realities, and that's why
Dan Goler: they're entrusted with that function,
Dan Goler: because they're really good at maintain,
Dan Goler: building and maintaining structures.
Dan Goler: So our laws of physics and the many other
Dan Goler: universes with their own laws of physics
Dan Goler: are being ran by the mechanical
Dan Goler: insectozoids.
Dan Goler: Now, I know this sounds insane.
Ryan McCormick: They're mechanical.
Dan Goler: Well, they are closer to what you would
Dan Goler: call a machine, so kind of like in the
Dan Goler: matrix.
Dan Goler: They're just not.
Dan Goler: They're not really.
Dan Goler: It's not the same situation.
Dan Goler: They're not holding you down in some kind
Dan Goler: of a prison.
Dan Goler: All of reality is computational and they
Dan Goler: are just weaving the networks of this
Dan Goler: computational system.
Dan Goler: One of them is our universe.
Dan Goler: Important to tie this point to its final
Dan Goler: conclusion that I'm trying to express,
Dan Goler: which is that they are a separate mind.
Dan Goler: So there's definitely somebody else in the
Dan Goler: room.
Dan Goler: So all the spiritual folks that like really
Dan Goler: love this idea of the awakening and
Dan Goler: everything, yes, a lot of these, like new
Dan Goler: things are emerging, for sure, but please
Dan Goler: know that the thing that you most likely
Dan Goler: are referring to when you're saying the one,
Dan Goler: it is not the one, it is your one, it is
Dan Goler: our one, there is the one, but that one is
Dan Goler: so beyond comprehension and conversation
Dan Goler: that you can't be possibly pointing to it
Dan Goler: with your attention okay, so we're
Dan Goler: referring to like we're saying the one
Dan Goler: we're from what the collective high mindset
Dan Goler: of which all human beings kind of share.
Dan Goler: I think that thing is beyond conception.
Dan Goler: I think that thing is truly beyond
Dan Goler: conception.
Dan Goler: And some people like to throw it around.
Dan Goler: They like to say God, they're like, but if
Dan Goler: you really place yourself close to the
Dan Goler: spaces of the highest realms, you don't.
Dan Goler: There's nothing, not just linguistically,
Dan Goler: even conceptually, in your own head.
Dan Goler: There's nothing you can do to map that onto
Dan Goler: anything.
Dan Goler: So what I'm saying is when you're saying a
Dan Goler: word, you mean something by that word,
Dan Goler: right?
Dan Goler: If you're saying the bus, there's a
Dan Goler: conception, even if it's a general idea, of
Dan Goler: a bus, there's some imprint in you that
Dan Goler: perceives what a bus is.
Dan Goler: When you're saying that word to me, right,
Dan Goler: so you're pointing to something in your own
Dan Goler: head when you're saying that to me, correct?
Dan Goler: So when somebody's saying god, what I am
Dan Goler: saying, the thing that inside of themselves
Dan Goler: they're pointing to conceptually can't
Dan Goler: possibly be the actual thing, because
Dan Goler: there's nowhere in the mapping of of what
Dan Goler: you're doing in your own, uh, inner space
Dan Goler: can possibly connect to that in terms of
Dan Goler: the symbolic representation of it.
Dan Goler: You and there's a sensation, there's a
Dan Goler: feeling that one can occupy like and feel
Dan Goler: the presence of that.
Dan Goler: But when you're saying the word, it is not
Dan Goler: vector like towards it, it is maybe vector
Dan Goler: like towards a local group that is
Dan Goler: connected to something bigger, that
Dan Goler: definitely feels divine and wonderful and
Dan Goler: light and all of that.
Dan Goler: But it is not the one.
Dan Goler: It is not.
Dan Goler: It is this local one and there's other
Dan Goler: local ones and that almost sounds like okay.
Dan Goler: What's the relevance of this to anything?
Dan Goler: Well, I think we're about to find out that
Dan Goler: there's a lot of relevance to understanding
Dan Goler: where we are in this map, because we are
Dan Goler: about to start needing to navigate it, just
Dan Goler: like we are navigating physical space
Dan Goler: before we go on that navigation.
Ryan McCormick: I appreciate your answer, a lot to think
Ryan McCormick: about and I want to have a couple follow-up
Ryan McCormick: questions.
Ryan McCormick: One is if you were not able to describe god,
Ryan McCormick: I thought that god or source was the light
Ryan McCormick: frequency that is, uh, in all beings, that
Ryan McCormick: all that, all beings, even if they're
Ryan McCormick: separate minds, underlying the electricity
Ryan McCormick: goes through them was source.
Ryan McCormick: Maybe I'm incorrect about that.
Ryan McCormick: The second thing is we look at certain
Ryan McCormick: animal species.
Ryan McCormick: There's always that I guess there's a
Ryan McCormick: philosophy called the hundredth monkey
Ryan McCormick: effect, where after if you teach 99 monkeys,
Ryan McCormick: or if you teach like, I think, if you have
Ryan McCormick: to teach a certain amount, and then once
Ryan McCormick: the hundredth monkey learns how to do
Ryan McCormick: something, then the entire species does it.
Ryan McCormick: So when we're talking about god, we're
Ryan McCormick: talking about, uh, people afraid to God.
Ryan McCormick: I wonder if they are referring to the
Ryan McCormick: collective human soul group or the
Ryan McCormick: collective mind of humans, and that's what
Ryan McCormick: they're in there?
Ryan McCormick: Because I think the collective.
Ryan McCormick: When people talk about God like, oh, you
Ryan McCormick: know, look at this, look how crazy this
Ryan McCormick: world is, I always like to pretend.
Ryan McCormick: Okay, well, if I was karen and I want to
Ryan McCormick: find the acting manager, who do I voice my
Ryan McCormick: complaint to?
Ryan McCormick: Do I voice my complaint, uh, directed at
Ryan McCormick: the human consciousness, which I think to a
Ryan McCormick: degree is, is more or less a corrupt virus
Ryan McCormick: at this point, that that really needs a
Ryan McCormick: kind of a cleansing, of antivirus cleaning,
Ryan McCormick: or do I direct that complaint to these
Ryan McCormick: mechanical insectitoids which should be
Ryan McCormick: running the planet right now and again to
Ryan McCormick: go down a further rabbit hole?
Ryan McCormick: If they are the gate keepers of this
Ryan McCormick: reality, is it possible for humans to
Ryan McCormick: actually connect with them to say, hey,
Ryan McCormick: look, okay, nice simulation, you got going
Ryan McCormick: here.
Ryan McCormick: I know that I'm your little ant on the ant
Ryan McCormick: farm in here, but, uh, is there any chance
Ryan McCormick: we can get some things fixed, aka the
Ryan McCormick: fauci's and the bill gates out of the game?
Ryan McCormick: Can we just kind of see what life would be
Ryan McCormick: like without the your evil little tyrants
Ryan McCormick: running around?
Ryan McCormick: Or did you put those here because you
Ryan McCormick: wanted to have fun and, you know, go for
Ryan McCormick: season 22 of the humans on earth?
Dan Goler: well, you put a lot on the table.
Dan Goler: There's uh, you made maybe 10 different
Dan Goler: major questions yeah, the first thing to
Dan Goler: say is that I I agree with your initial
Dan Goler: impulse about the liking, the separation,
Dan Goler: to some degree.
Dan Goler: I I always say that it's to me it's much
Dan Goler: more powerful when two separate things come
Dan Goler: in a communion.
Dan Goler: There's something very beautiful about a
Dan Goler: connection between two separate things
Dan Goler: versus the discovery, the operation out of
Dan Goler: the idea that we're all one.
Dan Goler: It almost sounds to me like the wrong
Dan Goler: emphasis.
Dan Goler: Right To say, well, you should be kind to
Dan Goler: others because it's all you I'm like.
Dan Goler: Well, first of all.
Dan Goler: That sounds like the most selfish thing you
Dan Goler: could possibly aim for.
Dan Goler: Right, well, only because it's you, you
Dan Goler: should be kind to it First of all.
Dan Goler: That sounds silly.
Dan Goler: Second of all, where is it written?
Dan Goler: Then?
Dan Goler: Because it's you, you're always kind to it.
Dan Goler: I mean, look how mean we are to ourselves
Dan Goler: all the time, right.
Dan Goler: So it's just an incoherent.
Dan Goler: I think it's just a misrepresentation of
Dan Goler: what matters to me.
Dan Goler: I think what matters is the sacredness of
Dan Goler: whatever the moment in fact presents itself
Dan Goler: as, and that is the most universal
Dan Goler: principle you can ever follow, which
Dan Goler: essentially, is what the Buddha discovered.
Dan Goler: Right To your other points, and maybe we
Dan Goler: can try and bundle them all into smaller
Dan Goler: points, because the stuff that you were
Dan Goler: saying about what humans at the moment are
Dan Goler: seems to be like a virus.
Dan Goler: Who do we voice the complaint?
Dan Goler: The cosmic cairn, which is a cool meme?
Dan Goler: So, obviously, the answer is the annoying
Dan Goler: answer that you already know, because we
Dan Goler: all know it the complaint is always towards
Dan Goler: yourself, right?
Dan Goler: Always?
Dan Goler: Because, ultimately, there are no
Dan Goler: gatekeepers and I know some people will
Dan Goler: have a field day at trying to debunk this
Dan Goler: idea, but there are no gatekeepers in
Dan Goler: existence.
Dan Goler: They don't exist.
Dan Goler: That's the absurdity of the situation,
Dan Goler: which nobody keeps any gate.
Dan Goler: There's operational freedom.
Dan Goler: That's it.
Dan Goler: It's the level of emergence that you are,
Dan Goler: according to both your physical and mental
Dan Goler: and spiritual abilities to perceive and
Dan Goler: interact with.
Dan Goler: That's it.
Dan Goler: So if, uh, is um, the fact that an ant
Dan Goler: can't build spaceships has anything to do
Dan Goler: with us gatekeeping and keeping a secret
Dan Goler: how to build spaceships?
Dan Goler: No, the end just has no operational freedom
Dan Goler: to do so because of whatever it is.
Dan Goler: In the same way, we don't have operational
Dan Goler: freedom to do a lot of things that other
Dan Goler: beings that are much more evolved have the
Dan Goler: operational freedom to do.
Dan Goler: So the funny thing is, if nobody's keeping
Dan Goler: any gate, it's just that when you evolve
Dan Goler: and evolution is a natural process that
Dan Goler: happens across all levels, across all
Dan Goler: dimensions.
Dan Goler: When you evolve to a certain level of
Dan Goler: understanding, the beings that are aware of
Dan Goler: you from a higher perspective, they can
Dan Goler: create protocols that help you understand
Dan Goler: things with more ease, or be birthed into
Dan Goler: these new understandings with greater uh,
Dan Goler: with less risk.
Dan Goler: Just like a practice, just like in a case
Dan Goler: of an actual pregnancy.
Dan Goler: It's a natural process that will unfold
Dan Goler: either way.
Dan Goler: It will happen either way, but in the
Dan Goler: modern world, we found ways to you know, uh,
Dan Goler: create a more safe environment for it to
Dan Goler: happen.
Dan Goler: Now, again, again.
Dan Goler: Some people will disagree with that at this
Dan Goler: point because people demonize basically
Dan Goler: every institution we have, which I think is
Dan Goler: also a mistake.
Dan Goler: But ultimately, you know what I mean
Dan Goler: there's processes you can cater to, with
Dan Goler: natural processes already occurring, which
Dan Goler: I think is exactly what's happening from
Dan Goler: the higher space.
Dan Goler: It's almost like if monkeys now which, by
Dan Goler: the way, it's kind of interesting because
Dan Goler: some monkeys are exhibiting these
Dan Goler: properties now, I don't know if you know,
Dan Goler: but some monkeys showed the predispensation
Dan Goler: to use, uh, certain tools that they never
Dan Goler: used before, like spears, fish with spears,
Dan Goler: which we've never seen before.
Dan Goler: So it's almost like they're now slowly
Dan Goler: stepping into their uh stone age right, and
Dan Goler: that's interesting because we kind of of a
Dan Goler: similar flavor on the same planet, forget
Dan Goler: about the same dimension, same planet, same
Dan Goler: physical realm.
Dan Goler: We kind of see this similar trajectory to
Dan Goler: what we went through and we see them going
Dan Goler: through it.
Dan Goler: Okay, now they're just fishing, but imagine
Dan Goler: they're going to start getting into a level
Dan Goler: where they start doing things closer and
Dan Goler: closer to what humans are doing.
Dan Goler: Do we have an obligation to help them maybe
Dan Goler: not make the amount of mistakes we had to
Dan Goler: make and suffer through for thousands of
Dan Goler: years?
Dan Goler: Can we circumvent some of these issues that
Dan Goler: we kind of learned the lessons from and
Dan Goler: help them?
Dan Goler: Not intervene in the process, but create
Dan Goler: the right conditions for them to suffer
Dan Goler: less, for less time, okay, but create the
Dan Goler: right conditions for them to suffer less
Dan Goler: for less time.
Dan Goler: So that's essentially a more equivalent
Dan Goler: situation to what we're going through.
Dan Goler: We're starting to understand and they can
Dan Goler: help us to some degree to understand.
Dan Goler: They can't tell us anything because if they
Dan Goler: do we won't be able to evolve properly, to
Dan Goler: have the right tools to do it ourselves,
Dan Goler: but they can give us hints, they can kind
Dan Goler: of create the right environments for us.
Dan Goler: That's more close to what we're doing.
Dan Goler: And the last point I want to touch on
Dan Goler: because it has been my hobby horse in the
Dan Goler: last few months, because I think it's very
Dan Goler: important is that one of the most
Dan Goler: components of our new arising paradigm is
Dan Goler: the moving the finger from pointing
Dan Goler: outwards to pointing inwards, and that
Dan Goler: basically eliminates the.
Dan Goler: We want to eliminate as much as possible
Dan Goler: the impulse to point to something else as
Dan Goler: the problem.
Dan Goler: Bill Gates, fauci, aliens.
Ryan McCormick: Yeah, in here, right here.
Ryan McCormick: What did you do today?
Dan Goler: How many people did you make happy today?
Dan Goler: Did you wash the dishes?
Dan Goler: What happened in your day where you can
Dan Goler: actually influence things?
Dan Goler: So the more people do that, the more we're
Dan Goler: going to live in a much better world.
Dan Goler: Because Bill Gates has no power over
Dan Goler: anybody and again, I don't even know enough
Dan Goler: about I know that it's a meme and I know
Dan Goler: people hate him and Fauauci and elon musk
Dan Goler: for many reasons but he's trying to kill
Dan Goler: everyone on planet earth and he's releasing
Dan Goler: it see, I don't know that, I don't know,
Dan Goler: yeah, I don't know that, and I'm sorry to
Dan Goler: break the news here
Dan Goler: no, I'm not sure that's true.
Dan Goler: So so the the thing there is that even in
Dan Goler: the case of the worst, the most despicable
Dan Goler: people that you can find, people that we
Dan Goler: can, let's say, both agree that they did
Dan Goler: what they did right, like hitler, like
Dan Goler: things like that even in that case, even
Dan Goler: though it is true that in the immediate
Dan Goler: moment, if you can't stop them physically,
Dan Goler: you should because of whatever it is, the
Dan Goler: hating them part needs to get out of the
Dan Goler: equation.
Dan Goler: Okay, because the hating them creates a
Dan Goler: disturbance in you that then propagates in
Dan Goler: a particular way and it prevents you from
Dan Goler: entering a certain stage of development.
Dan Goler: It's literally just blocking you personally
Dan Goler: and there it blocks us collectively, so
Dan Goler: kind of turning your other cheek.
Dan Goler: Deepest idea there is not that you just
Dan Goler: allow things to happen however they will
Dan Goler: and you don't intervene in anything.
Dan Goler: The point is that the emotion that is
Dan Goler: coupled usually with these pushbacks is
Dan Goler: preventing from the right evolution to take
Dan Goler: place.
Dan Goler: So it's a very technical thing.
Dan Goler: So you know the, the buddhist, uh, the
Dan Goler: shaolin monks.
Dan Goler: They're buddhists in nature, but usually
Dan Goler: zen buddhists, which is a little bit more
Dan Goler: militant in its nature, and they have this
Dan Goler: concept of of compassionate killing and the
Dan Goler: idea there is that, well, even though we
Dan Goler: are practicing buddhists and we are trying
Dan Goler: to, you know, do everything we can to be
Dan Goler: the most peaceful people, we are practicing
Dan Goler: this very powerful martial art that allows,
Dan Goler: gives us certain physical tools, but it
Dan Goler: carries a responsibility, and one of these
Dan Goler: responsibilities that you, you operate as
Dan Goler: close to the divine as you possibly can,
Dan Goler: and part of that is basically, if
Dan Goler: somebody's trying to kill you and you did
Dan Goler: everything you could to avoid it, you try
Dan Goler: to run away, you try to talk them out of it.
Dan Goler: You, you try to do everything in the
Dan Goler: checklist you could possibly do, and yet
Dan Goler: still, somehow, right now, you're cornered.
Dan Goler: They have a knife, there's nowhere to go.
Dan Goler: You can kill them, but you do it without a
Dan Goler: shred of hate.
Dan Goler: You do it, in that instance, with a lot of
Dan Goler: compassion and understanding that in this
Dan Goler: moment in time, they did not have enough of
Dan Goler: whatever was required to rise to the next
Dan Goler: level, to understand what they're doing is
Dan Goler: terrible.
Dan Goler: So you will help them not do that.
Dan Goler: Not, but it's at no point, and this is a
Dan Goler: difficult thing to do while you're taking
Dan Goler: somebody's life.
Dan Goler: It's actually one of the highest practices
Dan Goler: to basically, at the same time, have love
Dan Goler: for them while you're killing them, and so
Dan Goler: that's a very extreme example, right, but
Dan Goler: it has to be real and in that sense, all of
Dan Goler: these levels of us pointing to politicians
Dan Goler: and people in power and all that and saying,
Dan Goler: look at what you're doing like.
Dan Goler: What is happening in action is that we're
Dan Goler: exerting zero change to what they're doing.
Dan Goler: We can if you're working on it like.
Dan Goler: What is happening in action is that we're
Dan Goler: exerting zero change to what they're doing.
Dan Goler: We can, we can if you're working on it.
Dan Goler: Like if you, you know, organizing groups,
Dan Goler: working on policies changes, working to
Dan Goler: investors to create new kinds of structures
Dan Goler: wonderful, you should be doing that.
Dan Goler: That's powerful, that's doing something in
Dan Goler: the world.
Dan Goler: But most people, that's not the kind of
Dan Goler: power they're trying to practice.
Dan Goler: They're just talking online to one another,
Dan Goler: virtue signaling about what they think
Dan Goler: about this person or that person.
Dan Goler: They're making zero actions to actually
Dan Goler: change anything and really it's a selfish
Dan Goler: act, because what we're doing there is that
Dan Goler: we're essentially just running our mouths
Dan Goler: without making any difference to the world
Dan Goler: and at the same time, we're invoking a
Dan Goler: negative emotion in ourselves and in others
Dan Goler: about the state of the world.
Dan Goler: So they are definitely not the ones to
Dan Goler: blame, the insectozoids, the environment is.
Dan Goler: They're not.
Dan Goler: Their responsibility is not to steer the
Dan Goler: course of events whatsoever, it's just to
Dan Goler: make sure that the environment is solid.
Dan Goler: So the laws of physics, everything else is
Dan Goler: completely open-ended.
Dan Goler: So, whatever happens, in that sense, it's
Dan Goler: exactly how you would imagine it to be if
Dan Goler: we would just be living in a physical world.
Dan Goler: Everything is our doing, everything that
Dan Goler: happens here is our responsibility.
Dan Goler: And but and now you're playing, starting to
Dan Goler: play the levels of the responsibility of
Dan Goler: the individual versus the collective versus
Dan Goler: the thing, and again, a lot of these things
Dan Goler: are easier said than done, but they have to
Dan Goler: be done if we are to get to some kind of a
Dan Goler: next level.
Dan Goler: Uh, you know guillotines and hanging people
Dan Goler: in power and the fact that we're
Dan Goler: celebrating the murder of a person because
Dan Goler: we think that it was justified, um, that
Dan Goler: needs to go, because it's simply it's not a
Dan Goler: matter of.
Dan Goler: It's not a matter of um, it's simply it's
Dan Goler: not a matter of understanding the plight of
Dan Goler: the less fortunate ones.
Dan Goler: It has to do with a universal principle
Dan Goler: that your inner state, your signature,
Dan Goler: dictates immediately what kind of a channel
Dan Goler: you're going to be aligned with.
Dan Goler: And if the emotion in you not you
Dan Goler: personally, but all if the.
Dan Goler: If the emotion in you not you personally,
Dan Goler: but all of us the emotion in us is one of
Dan Goler: vitriol and seething hate, no matter how
Dan Goler: justified you think it is.
Dan Goler: That makes no difference whatsoever.
Dan Goler: That's a concept.
Dan Goler: But the fact that you're occupying that
Dan Goler: state just steers you in the direction of
Dan Goler: these kind of emotions, and that's where
Dan Goler: you're going to find.
Dan Goler: You're going to find yourself in a world
Dan Goler: where more of that is being expressed
Dan Goler: versus a neutral state.
Ryan McCormick: Well said.
Ryan McCormick: Thank you, amazing job addressing my
Ryan McCormick: 10-part question over there, danny.
Ryan McCormick: And I want to bring your attention that a
Ryan McCormick: dear teacher of mine, swami Satchidanand,
Ryan McCormick: has told me and she's scolded me in a very
Ryan McCormick: nice way, but she said do not judge, do not.
Ryan McCormick: You see the evil, do not judge the evil,
Ryan McCormick: you become the evil.
Ryan McCormick: Focus on the light, you will become the
Ryan McCormick: light.
Ryan McCormick: You must, that's what you must do.
Ryan McCormick: So I thought your point was well, uh, well
Ryan McCormick: spoken and and terrific how you explain
Ryan McCormick: that when you'd mentioned that, okay, well,
Ryan McCormick: you know, an ant is not capable of building
Ryan McCormick: a spaceship and maybe a human being is not
Ryan McCormick: capable of, you know, ascending to a
Ryan McCormick: certain degree.
Ryan McCormick: When you say that, I wonder if, okay, well,
Ryan McCormick: we have at the moment.
Ryan McCormick: Well, because we're looking at ants at the
Ryan McCormick: moment?
Ryan McCormick: Well, because we're looking at ants as a
Ryan McCormick: physical species, we're looking at humans
Ryan McCormick: as a physical species, an individual.
Ryan McCormick: We had, on our show before, talked about
Ryan McCormick: humans being no different than animals.
Ryan McCormick: They're just animals and some of the
Ryan McCormick: animals they are more inclined to listen to
Ryan McCormick: the spirit within and grow, and a lot of
Ryan McCormick: them just kind of do whatever the humans do,
Ryan McCormick: whatever they add.
Ryan McCormick: Their animal instincts tell them, but a
Ryan McCormick: human will never be anything more than a
Ryan McCormick: human.
Ryan McCormick: It may vary, but it'll never be anything
Ryan McCormick: more.
Ryan McCormick: And going back and looking at humans
Ryan McCormick: throughout I don't know, I'm sure we've
Ryan McCormick: probably been here hundreds of thousands of
Ryan McCormick: years it seems that humans, to a degree I
Ryan McCormick: think they were actually more intelligent
Ryan McCormick: years ago had a very good relationship with
Ryan McCormick: the earth, grew their own food and were all
Ryan McCormick: about grounding, and they seem to, you know,
Ryan McCormick: barbaric at times.
Ryan McCormick: But humans are very barbaric today.
Ryan McCormick: They're just barbaric with, uh, new toys,
Ryan McCormick: 5g missiles, uh, they're poisoning their
Ryan McCormick: collective with various foods.
Ryan McCormick: It's very hard to find clean water at
Ryan McCormick: certain times that it doesn't have fluoride
Ryan McCormick: in it.
Ryan McCormick: So I wonder if?
Ryan McCormick: Um.
Ryan McCormick: That being said, where do you see humans
Ryan McCormick: evolving?
Ryan McCormick: What is the peak capability of a human
Ryan McCormick: being, and do you think that humans are
Ryan McCormick: only going to be as capable of evolution
Ryan McCormick: based on the will and the desire of the
Ryan McCormick: souls that reside within those physical
Ryan McCormick: vehicles?
Dan Goler: yes, so the the first thing to point out is
Dan Goler: that I I didn't mean to say that it it is
Dan Goler: uh, it is an eternal state.
Dan Goler: I'm saying it is the state now and
Dan Goler: accepting it is the, the freedom to
Dan Goler: actually evolve, right.
Dan Goler: So the evolution is always happening and
Dan Goler: it's what's happening to us now.
Dan Goler: I don't know enough about the specificities
Dan Goler: of souls and all of that stuff.
Dan Goler: From what I understand from people that
Dan Goler: really care about this stuff is that souls
Dan Goler: are eternal and do they do not evolve.
Dan Goler: They're just kind of like this universal.
Dan Goler: They're literally fragments of god.
Dan Goler: They just kind of hover and collect data
Dan Goler: around themselves.
Dan Goler: Uh, I don't know either way.
Dan Goler: I don't.
Dan Goler: I don't have a lot riding on this, but, for
Dan Goler: all intents and purposes, everything within
Dan Goler: existence is evolving always, just like the
Dan Goler: examples with some of the monkeys.
Dan Goler: Now, right, so they are evolving and even
Dan Goler: though we coexist, they are now evolving.
Dan Goler: What thinking we're all that for a long
Dan Goler: time, did to a lot of the biosphere and all
Dan Goler: the negative things that you just listed,
Dan Goler: right?
Dan Goler: However, it's always a dangerous game
Dan Goler: because we we tend to overshoot things,
Dan Goler: because we don't really know where to stop.
Dan Goler: This is why I think the aim towards balance,
Dan Goler: the aim towards equanimity, the aim towards
Dan Goler: a balanced perception, state idea, even
Dan Goler: ideologists ideologies, which sounds like a
Dan Goler: weird oxymoron, but a flat ground on which
Dan Goler: you can stand and say what is what, when
Dan Goler: and what is required next right.
Dan Goler: So it removes a lot of the negative writing
Dan Goler: emotion towards these things.
Dan Goler: And again, as understandable as they are,
Dan Goler: that will not excuse the fact about the
Dan Goler: operational levels of existence, that when
Dan Goler: you occupy these states, you always find
Dan Goler: yourself in more negative states because
Dan Goler: that's the state you're occupying, that's
Dan Goler: what's magnetizing towards you.
Dan Goler: So, adopting frames that are more neutral
Dan Goler: in nature and just point to what needs to
Dan Goler: be done and why in nature, and just point
Dan Goler: to the what needs to be done and why, and
Dan Goler: that, by the way, includes the well-being
Dan Goler: of different creatures so fully within this
Dan Goler: frame, you should take into account what is
Dan Goler: the level of suffering in a particular
Dan Goler: environment.
Dan Goler: Right, so like, if you do this thing and it
Dan Goler: causes it's seeming to cause a lot of
Dan Goler: benefits for this part of the human society,
Dan Goler: but at the same time you're creating
Dan Goler: poverty for not just people but also
Dan Goler: demolishing ecosystems where animals live.
Dan Goler: So the tendency where we sit now most of
Dan Goler: the time is to say, well, no, no, that's
Dan Goler: just evil.
Dan Goler: The more balanced frame would be.
Dan Goler: Well, hold on, just evil.
Dan Goler: The more balanced frame would be.
Dan Goler: Well, hold on.
Dan Goler: So we are also part of that natural
Dan Goler: tapestry trying to figure itself out and to
Dan Goler: find an equilibrium in the environment that
Dan Goler: it's in.
Dan Goler: This is basically the same thing that
Dan Goler: everything in the environment does.
Dan Goler: So, instead of calling it evil, saying,
Dan Goler: okay, we are kind of like teenagers trying
Dan Goler: to figure it out, and we have a lot of
Dan Goler: emotions and we don't always know how to
Dan Goler: act from the wisest frame, but we're doing
Dan Goler: our best.
Dan Goler: And this little adage of like we're doing
Dan Goler: our best removes a little bit of the
Dan Goler: pressure and the thought that we're like a
Dan Goler: virus versus the more truthful thing, which
Dan Goler: is that, well, we have a lot of power and
Dan Goler: our wisdom is not quite keeping the right
Dan Goler: track with it, right?
Dan Goler: So we're trying to grow into the wisdom as
Dan Goler: well, because things like us in the
Dan Goler: universe, the ones that can do things that
Dan Goler: are more advanced in in whatever
Dan Goler: environment they find themselves in, has
Dan Goler: the responsibility to also evolve their own
Dan Goler: well, wisdom and connection to the divine.
Dan Goler: So the expression of these technologies
Dan Goler: would be influenced by these impulses of
Dan Goler: preservation, uh, beauty, uh, the greater
Dan Goler: good of all, versus just gain and power.
Dan Goler: And, and what I want, right?
Dan Goler: So, a more universal scope of perception,
Dan Goler: and I think that we are really starting to
Dan Goler: get there in a lot of different ways, but
Dan Goler: at the same time we still have the old
Dan Goler: patterns running in the background and all
Dan Goler: the stuff that we've done.
Dan Goler: That was well, I guess we can say wrong.
Dan Goler: I don't think there's anything wrong with
Dan Goler: saying wrong when it is wrong, right.
Dan Goler: So like raping the environment to the
Dan Goler: extent that we did fluoride and water, all
Dan Goler: the stuff that you listed right, to the
Dan Goler: extent that we did fluoride and water, all
Dan Goler: the stuff that you listed right.
Dan Goler: But again, we will not actually be able to
Dan Goler: step out of that and get to a higher level
Dan Goler: of operation that will fix all of these
Dan Goler: problems if we're going to keep just
Dan Goler: chastising ourselves for all the mistakes
Dan Goler: right we have at certain points say, okay,
Dan Goler: we fucked up, okay, we admit it, okay.
Dan Goler: But now the self-loathing doesn't make
Dan Goler: sense, right?
Dan Goler: Because then you, it's like in a car
Dan Goler: accident, like where your eyes go, that's
Dan Goler: where your car is going to go, even though
Dan Goler: the car is out of control.
Dan Goler: Where your eyes go, that's where your car
Dan Goler: is going to go.
Dan Goler: If you're looking at that pole, you will
Dan Goler: end up.
Dan Goler: Your car is going to end up at that pole,
Dan Goler: right?
Dan Goler: So now you, you got to take your eyes away
Dan Goler: from the disaster, not because you're
Dan Goler: trying to look away, but because you're
Dan Goler: trying to aim for something better.
Dan Goler: What can we be?
Dan Goler: How can we remedy all the ills that we
Dan Goler: brought upon the biosphere?
Dan Goler: That should be the focus, to my mind, and
Dan Goler: ultimately, again, it's a hard thing to do,
Dan Goler: of course, because there's a lot of emotion
Dan Goler: involved.
Dan Goler: Ultimately, again, it's a hard thing to do,
Dan Goler: of course, because there's a lot of emotion
Dan Goler: involved, but don't forget that there is a
Dan Goler: difference between what humans are on this
Dan Goler: planet, at least than other animals, and
Dan Goler: there's some very clear distinctions.
Dan Goler: We can press and transform the environment
Dan Goler: in which we, the one that we came from,
Dan Goler: faster than it can influence our genes.
Dan Goler: That's the first time it happened on this
Dan Goler: planet, and that actually gives us the
Dan Goler: level of control and power that no other
Dan Goler: being has, because we don't have to
Dan Goler: specialize in the environment that we're in.
Dan Goler: We can literally transform the environment
Dan Goler: to fit what we need.
Dan Goler: So now, that's a more universal function,
Dan Goler: that this is also why we can do things that
Dan Goler: go to space and things like this, and I
Dan Goler: don't think it's a coincidence.
Dan Goler: One way of looking at it is something that
Dan Goler: Terence McKenna used to talk about, which
Dan Goler: is I like this idea because it creates this
Dan Goler: balanced view.
Dan Goler: What if the earth, because it's such an
Dan Goler: enormous thing, if it is a living thing and
Dan Goler: I believe it is it also has a mind that has,
Dan Goler: uh, goals and goals that we don't
Dan Goler: understand on how it operates?
Dan Goler: But because of its size it can probably
Dan Goler: also see further into time, just just like
Dan Goler: you can kind of see further into space,
Dan Goler: right, but they can also see further into
Dan Goler: time.
Dan Goler: And what if the earth saw some of the
Dan Goler: events that might be already potentially
Dan Goler: looming in the distance and said, okay,
Dan Goler: hold on, I got hit way too many times with
Dan Goler: all these crazy disasters.
Dan Goler: Okay, what if I create the right conditions
Dan Goler: to allow for a new kind of being to evolve
Dan Goler: that is going to be more advanced, it's
Dan Goler: going to be like my defense system?
Dan Goler: So it created the right conditions for
Dan Goler: things like us to come in, because if
Dan Goler: another asteroid comes, like the ones that
Dan Goler: wiped out the dinosaurs, potentially it's
Dan Goler: not guaranteed that we'll be able to do it,
Dan Goler: but potentially we're the only ones that
Dan Goler: can save the biosphere, right this time.
Dan Goler: So we might be a tool that the earth
Dan Goler: actually allowed to evolve to help create
Dan Goler: both a defense system and also protect the
Dan Goler: biosphere and allow it to also spread
Dan Goler: throughout the universe, because wherever
Dan Goler: we're going to go, we're going to take
Dan Goler: animals and plants and everything else, so
Dan Goler: we're going to keep the biosphere going
Dan Goler: right.
Dan Goler: So it's possible that we are that tool and
Dan Goler: in a portion of the time that we were
Dan Goler: evolving something I don't want to say went
Dan Goler: wrong in this case, but it just like it
Dan Goler: didn't go exactly as expected and all of a
Dan Goler: sudden we started only thinking about
Dan Goler: ourselves because we lost that connection
Dan Goler: to mother nature.
Dan Goler: So we started kind of like behaving a
Dan Goler: little bit more like cancer, just like just
Dan Goler: for us, for us, for us, for us.
Dan Goler: Okay, but that can be remedied, right, you
Dan Goler: just change the bubble of perception from
Dan Goler: me, me, me, me, me, me, me to us, to we to
Dan Goler: all, and then slowly you start getting the
Dan Goler: benefits of the function that humans can
Dan Goler: bring about, coupled with, again, the
Dan Goler: connection to the all, the connection to
Dan Goler: the divine.
Dan Goler: So we can now operate as these custodians
Dan Goler: of knowledge and protectors of the
Dan Goler: environment versus the ones that just
Dan Goler: exploit it.
Dan Goler: And I like this idea because I think it's
Dan Goler: actually much closer to what's going on,
Dan Goler: and I'm pretty positive about it because,
Dan Goler: even with all the negative things that you
Dan Goler: just listed.
Dan Goler: I mean, at this point and I'm feel very
Dan Goler: blessed to be in that position I do meet
Dan Goler: some very powerful people and I got to tell
Dan Goler: you their heart is in the right place.
Dan Goler: There's a lot of people in power that
Dan Goler: actually care deeply, and it's just, and
Dan Goler: they also making the moves, the proper
Dan Goler: moves.
Dan Goler: They invest money and all kinds of things
Dan Goler: that they believe will actually bring a
Dan Goler: positive change to the world.
Dan Goler: Are they always managing to do it properly
Dan Goler: and everything they thought of will work
Dan Goler: out?
Dan Goler: No, that's never the case, right?
Dan Goler: You try something, it doesn't work.
Dan Goler: You try something else and doesn't work.
Dan Goler: You try something else, and they're just
Dan Goler: people.
Dan Goler: They don't always know what the right
Dan Goler: answer is.
Dan Goler: So the collective has to also regain its
Dan Goler: trust in the right kind of powerful people,
Dan Goler: because the occupation of power is not
Dan Goler: always there because somebody tried to just
Dan Goler: grab the power there, because somebody
Dan Goler: tried to just grab the power.
Dan Goler: Very often it has to do with the archetype
Dan Goler: that they are.
Dan Goler: Not everybody are good with money, not
Dan Goler: everybody are good with power.
Dan Goler: Not everybody are born to do that.
Dan Goler: Some people are just, you know, they're
Dan Goler: just artists and they just want to create,
Dan Goler: and if you give them $50 billion, nothing's
Dan Goler: going to happen for anyone because they
Dan Goler: don't know how to reallocate these funds.
Dan Goler: There's a function there, there's a
Dan Goler: responsibility.
Dan Goler: But again, unless it's coupled with the
Dan Goler: right kind of spirit and the right kind of
Dan Goler: focus towards the greater good of all, all
Dan Goler: that power just becomes toxic and it
Dan Goler: becomes what we see today, which is the
Dan Goler: greed of corporations and all that stuff.
Dan Goler: But again, I'm telling you that not and you
Dan Goler: probably also know this, you know, I'm,
Dan Goler: you've lived and you've been around the
Dan Goler: block Not everybody are good with knowing
Dan Goler: how to operate within powerful positions or
Dan Goler: money.
Ryan McCormick: I think most of it's corrupted.
Dan Goler: like the power corrupts things and we were
Dan Goler: talking about I don't know man, I'm telling
Dan Goler: you I meet a lot of people talking about
Dan Goler: billionaires, that well, a lot is a big
Dan Goler: work because there's not a lot of
Dan Goler: billionaires, but I met, at this point,
Dan Goler: three billionaires that I met very
Dan Goler: personally and they care deeply and they're
Dan Goler: also putting in the money to do so.
Dan Goler: So is it true that most people in power are
Dan Goler: doing that?
Dan Goler: Probably not, probably not yet, probably.
Dan Goler: You're right in that regard, yeah, but I
Dan Goler: would say it's not all lost, like there's a
Dan Goler: lot of people that care deeply and they
Dan Goler: have the means to bring about the change.
Dan Goler: And because I see that firsthand, I feel
Dan Goler: very encouraged.
Dan Goler: But there's still a lot of work to be done
Dan Goler: and that's absolutely right.
Ryan McCormick: I want to make sure I stand corrected.
Ryan McCormick: I don't think people who have power are bad.
Ryan McCormick: I think people who go for government power
Ryan McCormick: I think that they tend to attract us.
Ryan McCormick: You know, that's very I always look at that
Ryan McCormick: negative.
Ryan McCormick: But people who are self-made, who are
Ryan McCormick: wealthy, I think that's fantastic.
Ryan McCormick: They, they can do a lot of good and change
Ryan McCormick: the world.
Ryan McCormick: And we're talking about the spirit of earth.
Ryan McCormick: We want to explore this on our show the
Ryan McCormick: spirit of gaia and talking about maybe,
Ryan McCormick: okay, well, maybe gaia manifested human
Ryan McCormick: beings to protect human beings, to protect
Ryan McCormick: Earth.
Ryan McCormick: But I wouldn't be surprised if Gaia wiped
Ryan McCormick: human beings off the planet, if it came up
Ryan McCormick: with a self-defensive mechanism to take us
Ryan McCormick: out and maybe get a more evolved species on
Ryan McCormick: the Earth.
Ryan McCormick: One of our, somebody I've spoke with who
Ryan McCormick: had a profound near-death experience, did
Ryan McCormick: talk about there being a final period of
Ryan McCormick: time where only a small amount of people
Ryan McCormick: would be on the earth.
Ryan McCormick: That would be more in line to the spirit
Ryan McCormick: and alignment and goals which would not be
Ryan McCormick: destructive of the planet.
Ryan McCormick: So who knows about that?
Ryan McCormick: I want to bring to your attention two
Ryan McCormick: individuals who I had the pleasure of
Ryan McCormick: speaking with, meeting that have, I call it,
Ryan McCormick: two philosophies that kind of run a nice
Ryan McCormick: little parallel to them.
Ryan McCormick: One of them is David Icke, and David has
Ryan McCormick: been talking for a long period of time
Ryan McCormick: about subhuman, negative entities that are
Ryan McCormick: hijacking perception of this world, that
Ryan McCormick: they are controlling what humans see, hear,
Ryan McCormick: smell in order to manipulate their
Ryan McCormick: perception, because they seek to control
Ryan McCormick: reality.
Ryan McCormick: There was a movie made about David's
Ryan McCormick: philosophy.
Ryan McCormick: It's called V.
Ryan McCormick: It was a miniseries in the 80s and people
Ryan McCormick: thought it was just science fiction, but it
Ryan McCormick: seemed to be one of those movies that was
Ryan McCormick: kind of like the Matrix, where it's like
Ryan McCormick: well, there's a lot of truth to that.
Ryan McCormick: Then I look at a gentleman, jason Kristoff,
Ryan McCormick: who has been exceptional when it comes to
Ryan McCormick: showing how the elites for generations have
Ryan McCormick: been manipulating reality and that they do
Ryan McCormick: a lot of spells.
Ryan McCormick: And when I look up in the sky, as I always
Ryan McCormick: see that when they're doing the chemtrails
Ryan McCormick: they're always making the X symbol, so
Ryan McCormick: they're trying to do something to harm
Ryan McCormick: humanity.
Ryan McCormick: Now I'm bringing this to your attention
Ryan McCormick: because I do am curious to know is, when
Ryan McCormick: you have your heightened perception, do you
Ryan McCormick: see any kind of nefarious beings that are
Ryan McCormick: not from this place or from an alternative
Ryan McCormick: dimension that are trying to impose their
Ryan McCormick: will upon collective humanity and kind of
Ryan McCormick: steer collective humanity to a place where
Ryan McCormick: it would not have gone had there not been
Ryan McCormick: this type of interference.
Dan Goler: Yes.
Ryan McCormick: Okay.
Dan Goler: So, but that's just.
Dan Goler: You know there's a, there's a lot of
Dan Goler: distinct, that it's not that simple, right?
Dan Goler: So there's a lot of distinctions there.
Dan Goler: First, one is exerting your own will is
Dan Goler: literally what every single thing in
Dan Goler: existence is doing.
Dan Goler: What every single thing in existence is
Dan Goler: doing you, me, everything, right.
Dan Goler: It's exerting your will against somebody's
Dan Goler: will, uh, for your own personal benefit or
Dan Goler: worse, for the sake of causing suffering in
Dan Goler: somebody for your own personal enjoyment.
Dan Goler: I would say that that's kind of like the
Dan Goler: ultimate evil, right?
Dan Goler: You just do that because you derive some
Dan Goler: kind of pleasure from somebody else's pain.
Dan Goler: That's already a different kind of story.
Dan Goler: All of these things, they're archetypical
Dan Goler: energies emanating from the balance of
Dan Goler: existence, the yin and the yang right, the
Dan Goler: dark and the light.
Dan Goler: They're very fundamental.
Dan Goler: Here's the thing.
Dan Goler: It's not even that.
Dan Goler: It's kind of funny because they're
Dan Goler: uneradicable.
Dan Goler: It's just how it is right, so it's just
Dan Goler: what is contained within reality, and all
Dan Goler: of them have a function that is necessary
Dan Goler: to keep checks and balances in everything.
Dan Goler: It is very difficult to accept that from
Dan Goler: the position that we sit, because our
Dan Goler: perceptions of good and evil they're pretty
Dan Goler: parochial and they have to do with how we
Dan Goler: see intention.
Dan Goler: But it has a lot to do with us not seeing
Dan Goler: the balance of these forces as it can be
Dan Goler: and the very difficult task of recognizing
Dan Goler: these dark elements in yourself, the Carl
Dan Goler: Jung's the Shadow right, and the importance
Dan Goler: of the integration of that.
Dan Goler: Because if you're looking at it from the
Dan Goler: perspective of all of reality and not just
Dan Goler: from the perspective of one tiny portion of
Dan Goler: reality, from the perspective of one
Dan Goler: portion of reality, it's very easy to think
Dan Goler: of it in terms of like a leaf blower, like
Dan Goler: well, there's too many leaves here, let's
Dan Goler: blow them away somewhere.
Dan Goler: But the leaf are not being destroyed,
Dan Goler: they're just going somewhere, right.
Dan Goler: So now they're somewhere else.
Dan Goler: So if you're unaware of that, then it's one
Dan Goler: thing.
Dan Goler: If you're unaware of that, then it's one
Dan Goler: thing.
Dan Goler: But if you are becoming aware of that, now
Dan Goler: there's a question Is it evil of you to
Dan Goler: know that that other thing you call evil or
Dan Goler: elements of suffering, if you know for a
Dan Goler: fact that all you're doing by blowing them
Dan Goler: away is that now you imposed that evil on
Dan Goler: some other unfortunate place that you have
Dan Goler: no, that you have no concern about, but it
Dan Goler: you definitely did that, right?
Dan Goler: So is it evil of you to do that?
Dan Goler: I would say yes, right, because, with every
Dan Goler: knowledge, so imagine from the perspective
Dan Goler: of the all of the, the thing that can
Dan Goler: perceive most things in all of existence,
Dan Goler: god, whatever you want to call it.
Dan Goler: The question becomes under the fact that
Dan Goler: these things are uneradicable and they're
Dan Goler: just part of reality and there's nothing
Dan Goler: you can't.
Dan Goler: All you can do is try and keep leaf blow
Dan Goler: forever, but they don't decompose in
Dan Goler: reality, like leaves do, they just stay and
Dan Goler: they just go somewhere else, right?
Dan Goler: So now what is the most ethical decision
Dan Goler: for everything?
Dan Goler: Because you can arrange it in all kinds of
Dan Goler: ways.
Dan Goler: You can say well, if you're going to push
Dan Goler: everything to one half, one side is only
Dan Goler: always going to be in bliss and the other
Dan Goler: side is going to be in eternal suffering.
Dan Goler: Is that fair?
Dan Goler: Doesn't sound fair.
Dan Goler: How about we alternate?
Dan Goler: How about we go like this half suffers for
Dan Goler: a long time, this half has pleasure for a
Dan Goler: long time?
Dan Goler: Then we swap.
Dan Goler: How about that?
Dan Goler: Okay, a little better, but still like
Dan Goler: sounds unfair, right, sounds like there's a
Dan Goler: better way, okay.
Dan Goler: So I think the most logical thing you would
Dan Goler: say is like is there a way to integrate
Dan Goler: both of them in such a way that they're
Dan Goler: both perfectly balancing each other?
Dan Goler: So the end state of all things is
Dan Goler: neutrality versus suffering of pleasure,
Dan Goler: and this is where the eastern tradition
Dan Goler: comes into play, and that's essentially
Dan Goler: what the buddha's recognition was, which is
Dan Goler: that as long as you're playing I call it
Dan Goler: the vector game, but he called it the form
Dan Goler: game, as long as you're playing any kind of
Dan Goler: form game at all.
Dan Goler: It doesn't matter how blissful it is, no
Dan Goler: matter how angelic or heavenly like it
Dan Goler: feels.
Dan Goler: You are within the karmic cycle.
Dan Goler: You are within the cycle that always
Dan Goler: circulates between these infinite cycles of
Dan Goler: suffering and pleasure and bliss, always.
Dan Goler: So even if you are the highest realms,
Dan Goler: which according to Buddhism not necessarily
Dan Goler: according to the Buddha, but according to
Dan Goler: Buddhism exists, and let's say, you are the
Dan Goler: highest possible being in the highest
Dan Goler: possible realms and you live there for five
Dan Goler: kachillion years and in absolute bliss,
Dan Goler: you're still within the karmic cycle.
Dan Goler: So after all of that time, you can still
Dan Goler: fall in the lowest of hills.
Dan Goler: So what is the solution?
Dan Goler: Well, you want to find equanimity, and as
Dan Goler: many beings in the universe can aim towards
Dan Goler: that together, you will have a situation
Dan Goler: where a lot of this will be nullified and
Dan Goler: basically, everything will achieve
Dan Goler: equilibrium.
Dan Goler: That is the attempt.
Dan Goler: In that sense, considering the fact that
Dan Goler: we're not these perfect beings with the
Dan Goler: ultimate knowledge and know all of that, I
Dan Goler: think that, even so, we still want to try
Dan Goler: our best to find the version in us that
Dan Goler: tries to find that equilibrium, and one of
Dan Goler: these ways that I think that Carl Jung very
Dan Goler: correctly figured out, which is that the
Dan Goler: integration of the shadow in yourself.
Dan Goler: First, because if you can do that, you can
Dan Goler: kind of help other things do the same.
Dan Goler: And the payoff on that, if you want to look
Dan Goler: at it from the utilitarian perspective, is
Dan Goler: that the shadow also contains a lot of very,
Dan Goler: very unique uh perturbations that don't
Dan Goler: usually exist in the longer arc ones, which
Dan Goler: are the more the the light ones right, and
Dan Goler: the benefit of that is that there's a lot
Dan Goler: of creative force, there's enormous
Dan Goler: creative force in every single point of
Dan Goler: that darker element.
Dan Goler: So the thing you gain if you manage to do
Dan Goler: that is incredible creative force that you
Dan Goler: wouldn't necessarily have if you would just
Dan Goler: be focusing on the light, and that that
Dan Goler: that will be the integration.
Dan Goler: A good example of that is well, it's not
Dan Goler: really an example, it's like a thought
Dan Goler: experiment.
Dan Goler: If you have the kid in the class that is
Dan Goler: very uh in a lot of pain because of
Dan Goler: whatever reason, he's abused or whatever,
Dan Goler: and the rest of the class essentially
Dan Goler: pushes him away even more because they
Dan Goler: don't want anything to do in the immediate
Dan Goler: moment of like with this kind of you know,
Dan Goler: seeming darkness, because he, maybe he
Dan Goler: dresses like a goth and maybe he paints his
Dan Goler: nails black and whatever it is.
Dan Goler: And then the immediate, like propulsion of
Dan Goler: that, you push him even further away, you
Dan Goler: separate him even more, you're pushing him
Dan Goler: to the brink of destruction and he might
Dan Goler: show up with an ak-47, right Versus you.
Dan Goler: If the class is enlightened enough, they
Dan Goler: can embrace him and give him the love that
Dan Goler: he never got at home, right, and then that
Dan Goler: action slowly will reconform his separative
Dan Goler: element into a more integrated one where
Dan Goler: he's part of the class.
Dan Goler: Now the class celebrates his differences,
Dan Goler: the class celebrates his darkness, the
Dan Goler: class celebrates all of the things that
Dan Goler: maybe he's an incredible artist right and
Dan Goler: now, when he feels embraced and he wants to
Dan Goler: be a part of that class, now he will bring
Dan Goler: all his creative tools into the picture and
Dan Goler: say, oh my God, and he paints the class
Dan Goler: every day in incredible ways and everybody
Dan Goler: is so happy because it's amazing and nobody
Dan Goler: could paint like that.
Dan Goler: So this would be one thought experiment of
Dan Goler: how that works in the larger scale.
Dan Goler: And we all have both of those elements and
Dan Goler: we all collectively have individuals that
Dan Goler: have more of that and less of that.
Dan Goler: So it's a fractal, it's in us, it's in our
Dan Goler: city, it's's a fractal, it's in us, it's in
Dan Goler: a in our city, it's in our village, it's in
Dan Goler: the world, it's in the universe, it's
Dan Goler: everywhere.
Dan Goler: So it has to if we want to exert change.
Dan Goler: On these bigger things, like, for example,
Dan Goler: when I, when I hear you say about ike and
Dan Goler: people like that, it's like, well, be
Dan Goler: careful.
Dan Goler: Just so you know, they're spraying you with
Dan Goler: all this this thing and I go, okay, now
Dan Goler: what?
Dan Goler: So?
Dan Goler: Now, every time I'm going to be going
Dan Goler: around, there's going to be like a concern
Dan Goler: in me they're doing this, but I can't do
Dan Goler: anything about it.
Dan Goler: So all it does is you're fear-mongering.
Dan Goler: You're essentially telling me be careful of
Dan Goler: all these crazy things I think.
Ryan McCormick: I think it's to be aware about it, because
Ryan McCormick: most people don't see it and what is the
Ryan McCormick: point of being aware of it if you can't do
Ryan McCormick: anything about?
Ryan McCormick: it.
Ryan McCormick: You can do something about it.
Ryan McCormick: I think you can if you know that they are
Ryan McCormick: spraying things in the sky.
Ryan McCormick: I think it actually inspires a positive
Ryan McCormick: change to be hyper vigilant and getting
Ryan McCormick: cilantro in your body, to be more vigilant
Ryan McCormick: about your health, to be taking um
Ryan McCormick: antioxidants garlic, cinnamon, oregano.
Ryan McCormick: Seeing something like that, knowing that
Ryan McCormick: you are being attacked, knowing that
Ryan McCormick: there's a collective group of people that
Ryan McCormick: are trying to end your life, I think that
Ryan McCormick: inspires hypervigilance, or at least it has
Ryan McCormick: with me.
Ryan McCormick: Ever since I realized that these people
Ryan McCormick: were trying to kill me, I was like well, I
Ryan McCormick: don't want to be killed and, out of spite,
Ryan McCormick: I'm going to live.
Ryan McCormick: So I am going all natural and I'm cutting
Ryan McCormick: stuff out.
Ryan McCormick: So I tell people they're spraying you in
Ryan McCormick: the sky, they're trying to kill you.
Ryan McCormick: The hounds are great.
Ryan McCormick: Now try to take the negative and turn it
Ryan McCormick: into a positive by cilantro, eating healthy
Ryan McCormick: and don't give them the benefit of the
Ryan McCormick: doubt.
Ryan McCormick: Don't drop like flies, don't let them get
Ryan McCormick: you sick.
Ryan McCormick: So you have to sign up for the
Ryan McCormick: pharmaceutical industrial complex and then
Ryan McCormick: go to the grocery store and, while you're
Ryan McCormick: picking up your medicine, go pick up some
Ryan McCormick: Cheetos that have got yellow dye number
Ryan McCormick: five in it or something like that.
Dan Goler: So, okay, that's a great example, that is a
Dan Goler: really good example.
Dan Goler: So, okay, that's a great, that's a great
Dan Goler: example.
Dan Goler: I.
Dan Goler: I like that's.
Dan Goler: That is a really good example.
Dan Goler: In your case, I like the fact that it
Dan Goler: called you into action, into cutting a lot
Dan Goler: of these things that you know the
Dan Goler: pharmaceutical might be confused about, and
Dan Goler: you took responsibility and you said no,
Dan Goler: I'm going to do it myself.
Dan Goler: I'm going to grow a lot of my stuff, I'm
Dan Goler: going to do research and understand what is
Dan Goler: actually good for my body.
Dan Goler: Incredible, would you agree with me that
Dan Goler: most people would not have the either the
Dan Goler: or just, in general, the drive to take
Dan Goler: these actions and all that it's going to do
Dan Goler: for most people?
Dan Goler: It will simply make them bitter about
Dan Goler: whatever is possible and, in fact, by doing
Dan Goler: so, will lower their life.
Dan Goler: Uh, uh yes you know what I mean.
Dan Goler: Yeah, it will lower how well they can live.
Dan Goler: So will I will.
Dan Goler: I agree with you that, uh, ultimately, we
Dan Goler: want to be aware of all the ways in which,
Dan Goler: the the more the bigger entities are either
Dan Goler: misbehaving or inadvertently doing things
Dan Goler: that are bad for us.
Dan Goler: Yeah, of course, who would disagree with
Dan Goler: that?
Dan Goler: But in the end, again, the balance thing
Dan Goler: right.
Dan Goler: So you got to remember that while we're
Dan Goler: remedying all of that, then the, the
Dan Goler: reducing the volume on the demonization of
Dan Goler: things is super important, and I feel, feel,
Dan Goler: I personally feel it sounds like you derive
Dan Goler: a lot of meaning from his work.
Dan Goler: So I don't want to, you know, but it sounds
Dan Goler: to me like, at least specifically with Ike,
Dan Goler: because of you know, I know you can say
Dan Goler: whatever you want.
Ryan McCormick: You can say whatever you want.
Ryan McCormick: I'm open to all different things.
Ryan McCormick: It's just that.
Dan Goler: I don't feel that he's operating out of a
Dan Goler: selfless place.
Dan Goler: Okay, I feel that he likes the fact that
Dan Goler: he's sounding the alarms, he likes the
Dan Goler: feeling of it, but I don't think he put a
Dan Goler: lot of thought into what it would actually
Dan Goler: do in the aggregate.
Dan Goler: So that to me is not a positive player.
Dan Goler: So now, even there, right, so like that's
Dan Goler: an individual that I can criticize his
Dan Goler: behavior to a certain extent, I can give my
Dan Goler: reasons for it.
Dan Goler: If I meet him as a person and we're sitting
Dan Goler: and we're having tea or whatever, I will
Dan Goler: not be like hiding some kind of a negative
Dan Goler: emotion towards him as a person.
Dan Goler: I don't have a problem with telling him
Dan Goler: like, hey, I think you can do better there
Dan Goler: or there, but in the moment the attempt is
Dan Goler: always to still love him and still see him
Dan Goler: as a human, because I'm sure everybody are
Dan Goler: doing their best.
Dan Goler: Right, and one of the balancing points for
Dan Goler: the whole fear of institutions in general,
Dan Goler: notice that if right now, god forbid.
Dan Goler: But if right now something serious happens,
Dan Goler: and forget about right now treatments,
Dan Goler: because, yes, you and I would agree that
Dan Goler: there's a lot of wrongdoing there because
Dan Goler: of greed, we agree there.
Dan Goler: But in the immediate moment also, these
Dan Goler: institutions develop ways and methods to
Dan Goler: fix certain things quickly that we could
Dan Goler: never do before and people just died from
Dan Goler: them, right?
Dan Goler: So if there's some kind of a crazy car
Dan Goler: accident and something, just, you've been
Dan Goler: impaled or something again, god forbid.
Dan Goler: But if that happens, you want to be rushed
Dan Goler: to a western hospital immediately.
Dan Goler: Right, because they know certain things
Dan Goler: that we didn't know before and they can
Dan Goler: save you potentially.
Dan Goler: And that needs to also be included in the
Dan Goler: conversation about what is good and what is
Dan Goler: bad, because I would claim these are all
Dan Goler: best attempts that so far fell short, but
Dan Goler: we are eventually.
Dan Goler: We do figure things out.
Dan Goler: Eventually, we do bring about a change that
Dan Goler: can be stable over time, and we haven't
Dan Goler: achieved it in many ways, but we have
Dan Goler: achieved it.
Dan Goler: Sometimes there are certain things that we
Dan Goler: just eradicated as dangers.
Dan Goler: Right, and seeing us as part of nature
Dan Goler: versus some kind of a separate entity from
Dan Goler: nature is, I think, a helpful, both guiding
Dan Goler: principle and a more accurate principle,
Dan Goler: because it's it has to be right.
Dan Goler: You're part of whatever is going on, you're
Dan Goler: part of the operation.
Dan Goler: Are, um, I don't know when, when, when the
Dan Goler: solar systems are formed?
Dan Goler: Are different planets evil or colliding
Dan Goler: with one another until everything settles.
Dan Goler: No, now we don't think of them as agents
Dan Goler: because like well it's, it's out of their
Dan Goler: hands.
Dan Goler: They're just kind of flying around
Dan Goler: according to the laws of physics.
Dan Goler: But I'm not so sure it's that different for
Dan Goler: us.
Dan Goler: I think we're story making machines, but
Dan Goler: ultimately we're also kind of bouncing
Dan Goler: around with whatever is already unfolding.
Dan Goler: And just remembering that balance point to
Dan Goler: me will always be a reason to emphasize it,
Dan Goler: because I think that's the only way out of
Dan Goler: this situation, even though you and I will
Dan Goler: probably agree on like 98% of everything
Dan Goler: you want to criticize.
Ryan McCormick: Like I'm with you.
Ryan McCormick: I had to remember one thing about David
Ryan McCormick: Icke.
Ryan McCormick: I've met him in person and he's a trip, but
Ryan McCormick: there's something about him that happened
Ryan McCormick: recently is that I don't know if we knew
Ryan McCormick: about this, but he's banned in 30 countries
Ryan McCormick: in the eu and he we just had a hearing
Ryan McCormick: because this was what he did.
Ryan McCormick: He went to the Netherlands at a peace
Ryan McCormick: conference to talk about peace and they
Ryan McCormick: banned him there.
Ryan McCormick: And then they banned him in all 30 European
Ryan McCormick: countries and I mean he sounded the alarm
Ryan McCormick: over a number of different things, but
Ryan McCormick: meeting him in person, I felt like a really
Ryan McCormick: good energy from him.
Ryan McCormick: But the fact that he got banned from 30
Ryan McCormick: different countries for speaking at a peace
Ryan McCormick: conference, I think that is incredible.
Dan Goler: Yeah, but it's a question of what you say
Dan Goler: in the peace conference, right?
Dan Goler: I'm not sure.
Ryan McCormick: He said he went there to protest for peace.
Dan Goler: Yeah, a lot of people say that Greta says
Dan Goler: that, and I don't think she's a positive
Dan Goler: person.
Dan Goler: Greta, oh my God.
Dan Goler: Yeah, a lot of people say that greta says
Dan Goler: that, and I don't think she's a positive
Dan Goler: greta.
Ryan McCormick: Oh my god, some of these people that are
Ryan McCormick: out there.
Ryan McCormick: It's like it's just hard to to gauge them
Ryan McCormick: and yeah, no it's not hard.
Dan Goler: I saw her the first time and I said, and
Dan Goler: it's very like you know, and nowadays we
Dan Goler: live in a world where passing judgment is
Dan Goler: like a dirty thing to do.
Dan Goler: Yeah, I, I think it's okay to do when it's
Dan Goler: clear as day.
Dan Goler: And the second I saw I was like, oh, I know
Dan Goler: who she's working for, so, yeah, it's, it's
Dan Goler: it.
Dan Goler: But again it's like the, the virtue
Dan Goler: signaling is is out of this world, right?
Dan Goler: So, ultimately, because I, I, I do, I, I
Dan Goler: squarely fall within the, uh, the, the type
Dan Goler: of a person that, uh, you know, would stand
Dan Goler: on his principles and tell you what I think
Dan Goler: is right, when I think that it is.
Dan Goler: But the more I well, both grow, uh, just in
Dan Goler: age, but also spiritually, the more I
Dan Goler: understand that I would be better off over
Dan Goler: time if, while I'm it's okay to pass
Dan Goler: judgment on certain things, do that in a
Dan Goler: way in the spirit that is, always
Dan Goler: remembering that if you would be in the
Dan Goler: shoes of that person, you don't know what
Dan Goler: you would do and most likely would do
Dan Goler: exactly what that person did right, because
Dan Goler: you would be them right.
Dan Goler: And so we're all kind of playing a role and
Dan Goler: and yeah, it's not always an easy task.
Dan Goler: Everything I'm saying is kind of like in
Dan Goler: the perfect scenario, right, I'm fully
Dan Goler: aware of that.
Dan Goler: But to the extent that I can take the
Dan Goler: position of balance, I do my best to do so.
Dan Goler: Specific examples would be like I have a
Dan Goler: daily live on my channels like YouTube,
Dan Goler: tiktok, everywhere, and I show up almost
Dan Goler: every single day and have like a
Dan Goler: conversation with people for like an hour
Dan Goler: or two, sometimes three, and I'm a person.
Dan Goler: Sometimes I wake up on the wrong side of
Dan Goler: bed, sometimes I wake up and I'm moody or
Dan Goler: I'm just in pain in that day for whatever
Dan Goler: reason.
Dan Goler: And yeah that would influence how I talk to
Dan Goler: people.
Dan Goler: I'm just in pain in that day for whatever
Dan Goler: reason, and, yeah, that would influence how
Dan Goler: I talk to people.
Dan Goler: It will.
Dan Goler: If I'm, if I'm in pain, I would have a lot
Dan Goler: less patience with the types of ideas that
Dan Goler: I tend to already thought my way through it
Dan Goler: and it's like I don't feel like I need to
Dan Goler: entertain them anymore.
Dan Goler: And then when people kind of bring it about
Dan Goler: strongly enough, I have like a like, an,
Dan Goler: like a reaction to it and that right, and
Dan Goler: you would hear that in my voice.
Dan Goler: That enough, I have like, a like, a, like a
Dan Goler: reaction to it and that right, and you
Dan Goler: would hear that in my voice.
Dan Goler: That would be kind of a little bit more
Dan Goler: stern.
Dan Goler: But then the moments that I catch myself
Dan Goler: even doing the same live.
Dan Goler: It's very important for me to point that
Dan Goler: out, and it's not about just like oh, look
Dan Goler: at me, I'm so self-aware.
Dan Goler: No, it's just what it helps me to do.
Dan Goler: Is?
Dan Goler: It reminds me in real time?
Dan Goler: It's like whoa, whoa, that thing you're
Dan Goler: raring around, look what you're doing.
Dan Goler: You're doing exactly what you're saying you
Dan Goler: shouldn't do, right, and that is a good
Dan Goler: reminder for me and that's why I always see
Dan Goler: it in, like everything we do, so like, if
Dan Goler: you really think about it, all the ills of
Dan Goler: the world.
Dan Goler: It's like this infinite field of Venn
Dan Goler: diagrams right Of like, where you and I
Dan Goler: would agree on certain subjects, other ones
Dan Goler: we would disagree, and ultimately, what we
Dan Goler: want to do is step out of the game of the
Dan Goler: finger pointing really Like.
Dan Goler: It's just like okay, what can I do about it?
Dan Goler: What you just told me, that's amazing,
Dan Goler: honestly, I've never heard anybody say that,
Dan Goler: so I fully accept it.
Dan Goler: I'm like okay, I can now officially say
Dan Goler: I've heard one good example of somebody who,
Dan Goler: because they heard somebody ringing the
Dan Goler: alarms, they said I'm going to take things
Dan Goler: in my own hands, and they did that squarely
Dan Goler: because they were warned.
Dan Goler: Okay, I stand corrected.
Dan Goler: There are examples where, where that can
Dan Goler: play a benefit I just know that from
Dan Goler: statistically, it's much less likely for
Dan Goler: most people to do so.
Dan Goler: It requires a certain kind of psychology,
Dan Goler: commitment, belief in your own ability to
Dan Goler: discern things and and act on them.
Dan Goler: Uh, that's not everybody's.
Dan Goler: Uh, luck in this world it's here.
Ryan McCormick: Well, you get here at some of you don't
Ryan McCormick: think, you don't think critically in part
Ryan McCormick: of that operation for 2020, they were
Ryan McCormick: trying to get people be afraid and it was
Ryan McCormick: amazing.
Ryan McCormick: How were they were able to, I guess, dumb
Ryan McCormick: down people the the stuff that they make
Ryan McCormick: people do, and those didn't bite us.
Ryan McCormick: It was just.
Ryan McCormick: It was just weird to stand away from that.
Ryan McCormick: But to come back to your amazing discovery
Ryan McCormick: that we're talking at the beginning, when
Ryan McCormick: you look at what you have accomplished and
Ryan McCormick: this door of discovery that you've opened
Ryan McCormick: in, do you foresee other tests in the
Ryan McCormick: future that will reveal deeper levels of,
Ryan McCormick: say, predictive programming in this reality,
Ryan McCormick: or deeper levels of structure in this
Ryan McCormick: reality, and what do you ultimately hope
Ryan McCormick: will happen with your discovery?
Dan Goler: Sorry about that, I have a sorry sorry
Dan Goler: about that.
Dan Goler: I have uh, sorry, um, what I think will
Dan Goler: happen with the discovery, I can't know,
Dan Goler: because I uh, because I'm kind of following
Dan Goler: the way of the dao.
Dan Goler: I'm just kind of doing the best thing that
Dan Goler: feels right in that moment, um, and as long
Dan Goler: as it leads to positive results, both in
Dan Goler: how I see people react to it and what kind
Dan Goler: of, if they, does it give them meaning or
Dan Goler: does it disturb them?
Dan Goler: Um, and plus, potentially like the real
Dan Goler: world applications of this.
Dan Goler: So I'm just following whatever feels right
Dan Goler: in the moment.
Dan Goler: That being said, if I have to make my
Dan Goler: wildest guess, I think that the second,
Dan Goler: we're going to start probing this more
Dan Goler: scientifically, which is what I'm basically
Dan Goler: attempting to do now.
Dan Goler: I'm trying to bring the right kind of
Dan Goler: investors to do like official, like actual
Dan Goler: tests with it.
Dan Goler: Um, I think we'll be able to discern what
Dan Goler: the code is doing in relationship to what
Dan Goler: we already understand about the world in a
Dan Goler: physical way, and it might even give us a
Dan Goler: good glimpse of what consciousness is and
Dan Goler: how it comes about in reality.
Dan Goler: Is it fundamental, is it an arising
Dan Goler: property?
Dan Goler: In what way?
Dan Goler: All of that stuff, and I think that we'll
Dan Goler: be able to.
Dan Goler: The second we're going to start creating
Dan Goler: more of a Rosetta Stone of what the code is
Dan Goler: actually doing, so like if we create some
Dan Goler: you know big perturbations to the
Dan Goler: environment, like with powerful magnetic
Dan Goler: fields, and if we see the change in the
Dan Goler: code happening in a particular way.
Dan Goler: Oh okay, so this is somehow connected to
Dan Goler: magnetism.
Dan Goler: Okay, how, when I move the magnet, what
Dan Goler: happens?
Dan Goler: Write everything down, start creating
Dan Goler: theories around it.
Dan Goler: I think that kind of way of approaching it
Dan Goler: can.
Dan Goler: Again, you asked me what I think can
Dan Goler: potentially be the, the, at least the, the
Dan Goler: trajectory of it.
Dan Goler: It might be a whole new science where you
Dan Goler: study reality again, with the constant
Dan Goler: observation of the code, of what happens
Dan Goler: when you do x, and then you can potentially
Dan Goler: create new technologies that we never
Dan Goler: imagined.
Dan Goler: Warp, drivep, drive, or literally like
Dan Goler: bending the rules of the environment that
Dan Goler: we live in.
Ryan McCormick: Mr Danny Goeller, thank you for being with
Ryan McCormick: us today.
Ryan McCormick: Very engaging, riveting answers.
Ryan McCormick: I have to tell you.
Ryan McCormick: You're so eloquent in the way you speak and
Ryan McCormick: how you were able to present very complex
Ryan McCormick: ideas, simplify them, raise more questions.
Ryan McCormick: It was definitely a trip.
Ryan McCormick: We would be honored to have you back A
Ryan McCormick: little more about Dan by going to
Ryan McCormick: codeofrealitycom.
Ryan McCormick: Also go to his YouTube channel, dan Go
Ryan McCormick: Thoughts, dan.
Ryan McCormick: Thank you so much.
Dan Goler: Thank you so much, brian.
Dan Goler: Your pleasure, I appreciate that.
Ryan McCormick: Thank you, thank you.