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Ryan McCormick: I'm very excited for our featured guest

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Ryan McCormick: His name is Danny Goeller and you can learn

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Ryan McCormick: more about him by going to YouTube.

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Ryan McCormick: Danny Go Fox website.

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Dan Goler: Code of Reality.

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Dan Goler: You know what I did.

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Ryan McCormick: When we start.

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Ryan McCormick: I'm going to let you promote the YouTube

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Ryan McCormick: I think I'm a little dyslexic.

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Dan Goler: Oh, me too, here you go.

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Dan Goler: I'm just going to type it for you.

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Dan Goler: There you go.

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Ryan McCormick: Awesome.

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Ryan McCormick: All right, let me see, so I can look at it

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Ryan McCormick: directly.

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Dan Goler: I'm the same way, so don't worry about it.

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Dan Goler: I have a very hard time reading, especially

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Dan Goler: on the fly Awesome.

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Dan Goler: We're on the same page.

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Ryan McCormick: Awesome, all right, there we go.

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Ryan McCormick: Three, two, one.

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Ryan McCormick: I'm very excited for our featured guest

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Ryan McCormick: today, dan goler.

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Ryan McCormick: You can learn more about him by going to

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Ryan McCormick: two different places.

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Ryan McCormick: One is his website code of realitycom and

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Ryan McCormick: his youtube channel, dan go thoughts.

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Ryan McCormick: Dan, how are you, sir?

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Ryan McCormick: Welcome to the show I'm doing amazing.

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Dan Goler: How are you, ryan?

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Ryan McCormick: good to have you thank you, I'm doing

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Ryan McCormick: unbelievable.

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Ryan McCormick: So you came up with this pretty interesting

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Ryan McCormick: discovery.

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Ryan McCormick: It seems that you've actually discovered a

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Ryan McCormick: Can you please give us a synopsis of this

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Ryan McCormick: incredible discovery?

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Dan Goler: Yeah, that would be an accurate description.

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Dan Goler: Description.

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Dan Goler: Obviously, it's a pretty big claim, but

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Dan Goler: The statement is always a little

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Dan Goler: Did you say dmt, the most uh psychedelic

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Dan Goler: Uh, yeah, buddy, what makes you think that

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Dan Goler: Well, that's where, that's where the

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Dan Goler: Uh, the details of how it appears and

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Dan Goler: Or, if you change, really any other

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Dan Goler: That's the gist of it and I started talking

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Ryan McCormick: I don't know if this is, you know, a really

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Ryan McCormick: because maybe the, the another version of

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Dan Goler: Yeah, and this is, by the way, interesting

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Dan Goler: Also good idea to not kill any.

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Dan Goler: But it is not the one.

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Dan Goler: about to start needing to navigate it, just

476
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Dan Goler: like we are navigating physical space

477
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Dan Goler: before we go on that navigation.

478
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Ryan McCormick: I appreciate your answer, a lot to think

479
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Ryan McCormick: about and I want to have a couple follow-up

480
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Ryan McCormick: questions.

481
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Ryan McCormick: One is if you were not able to describe god,

482
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Ryan McCormick: I thought that god or source was the light

483
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Ryan McCormick: frequency that is, uh, in all beings, that

484
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Ryan McCormick: all that, all beings, even if they're

485
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Ryan McCormick: separate minds, underlying the electricity

486
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Ryan McCormick: goes through them was source.

487
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Ryan McCormick: Maybe I'm incorrect about that.

488
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Ryan McCormick: The second thing is we look at certain

489
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Ryan McCormick: animal species.

490
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Ryan McCormick: There's always that I guess there's a

491
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Ryan McCormick: philosophy called the hundredth monkey

492
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Ryan McCormick: effect, where after if you teach 99 monkeys,

493
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Ryan McCormick: or if you teach like, I think, if you have

494
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Ryan McCormick: to teach a certain amount, and then once

495
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Ryan McCormick: the hundredth monkey learns how to do

496
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Ryan McCormick: something, then the entire species does it.

497
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Ryan McCormick: So when we're talking about god, we're

498
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Ryan McCormick: talking about, uh, people afraid to God.

499
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Ryan McCormick: I wonder if they are referring to the

500
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Ryan McCormick: collective human soul group or the

501
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Ryan McCormick: collective mind of humans, and that's what

502
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Ryan McCormick: they're in there?

503
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Ryan McCormick: Because I think the collective.

504
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Ryan McCormick: When people talk about God like, oh, you

505
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Ryan McCormick: know, look at this, look how crazy this

506
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Ryan McCormick: world is, I always like to pretend.

507
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Ryan McCormick: Okay, well, if I was karen and I want to

508
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Ryan McCormick: find the acting manager, who do I voice my

509
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Ryan McCormick: complaint to?

510
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Ryan McCormick: Do I voice my complaint, uh, directed at

511
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Ryan McCormick: the human consciousness, which I think to a

512
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Ryan McCormick: degree is, is more or less a corrupt virus

513
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Ryan McCormick: at this point, that that really needs a

514
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Ryan McCormick: kind of a cleansing, of antivirus cleaning,

515
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Ryan McCormick: or do I direct that complaint to these

516
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Ryan McCormick: mechanical insectitoids which should be

517
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Ryan McCormick: running the planet right now and again to

518
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Ryan McCormick: go down a further rabbit hole?

519
00:19:52,451 --> 00:19:55,905
Ryan McCormick: If they are the gate keepers of this

520
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Ryan McCormick: reality, is it possible for humans to

521
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Ryan McCormick: actually connect with them to say, hey,

522
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Ryan McCormick: look, okay, nice simulation, you got going

523
00:20:05,489 --> 00:20:05,609
Ryan McCormick: here.

524
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Ryan McCormick: I know that I'm your little ant on the ant

525
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Ryan McCormick: farm in here, but, uh, is there any chance

526
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Ryan McCormick: we can get some things fixed, aka the

527
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Ryan McCormick: fauci's and the bill gates out of the game?

528
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Ryan McCormick: Can we just kind of see what life would be

529
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Ryan McCormick: like without the your evil little tyrants

530
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Ryan McCormick: running around?

531
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Ryan McCormick: Or did you put those here because you

532
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Ryan McCormick: wanted to have fun and, you know, go for

533
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Ryan McCormick: season 22 of the humans on earth?

534
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Dan Goler: well, you put a lot on the table.

535
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Dan Goler: There's uh, you made maybe 10 different

536
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Dan Goler: major questions yeah, the first thing to

537
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Dan Goler: say is that I I agree with your initial

538
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Dan Goler: impulse about the liking, the separation,

539
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Dan Goler: to some degree.

540
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Dan Goler: I I always say that it's to me it's much

541
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Dan Goler: more powerful when two separate things come

542
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Dan Goler: in a communion.

543
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Dan Goler: There's something very beautiful about a

544
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Dan Goler: connection between two separate things

545
00:20:54,505 --> 00:20:58,934
Dan Goler: versus the discovery, the operation out of

546
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Dan Goler: the idea that we're all one.

547
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Dan Goler: It almost sounds to me like the wrong

548
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Dan Goler: emphasis.

549
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Dan Goler: Right To say, well, you should be kind to

550
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Dan Goler: others because it's all you I'm like.

551
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Dan Goler: Well, first of all.

552
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Dan Goler: That sounds like the most selfish thing you

553
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Dan Goler: could possibly aim for.

554
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Dan Goler: Right, well, only because it's you, you

555
00:21:13,885 --> 00:21:15,282
Dan Goler: should be kind to it First of all.

556
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Dan Goler: That sounds silly.

557
00:21:16,580 --> 00:21:19,069
Dan Goler: Second of all, where is it written?

558
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Dan Goler: Then?

559
00:21:19,301 --> 00:21:20,887
Dan Goler: Because it's you, you're always kind to it.

560
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Dan Goler: I mean, look how mean we are to ourselves

561
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Dan Goler: all the time, right.

562
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Dan Goler: So it's just an incoherent.

563
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Dan Goler: I think it's just a misrepresentation of

564
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Dan Goler: what matters to me.

565
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Dan Goler: I think what matters is the sacredness of

566
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Dan Goler: whatever the moment in fact presents itself

567
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Dan Goler: as, and that is the most universal

568
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Dan Goler: principle you can ever follow, which

569
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Dan Goler: essentially, is what the Buddha discovered.

570
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Dan Goler: Right To your other points, and maybe we

571
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Dan Goler: can try and bundle them all into smaller

572
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Dan Goler: points, because the stuff that you were

573
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Dan Goler: saying about what humans at the moment are

574
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Dan Goler: seems to be like a virus.

575
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Dan Goler: Who do we voice the complaint?

576
00:21:59,782 --> 00:22:01,749
Dan Goler: The cosmic cairn, which is a cool meme?

577
00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:10,414
Dan Goler: So, obviously, the answer is the annoying

578
00:22:10,514 --> 00:22:13,058
Dan Goler: answer that you already know, because we

579
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Dan Goler: all know it the complaint is always towards

580
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Dan Goler: yourself, right?

581
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Dan Goler: Always?

582
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Dan Goler: Because, ultimately, there are no

583
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Dan Goler: gatekeepers and I know some people will

584
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Dan Goler: have a field day at trying to debunk this

585
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Dan Goler: idea, but there are no gatekeepers in

586
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Dan Goler: existence.

587
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Dan Goler: They don't exist.

588
00:22:37,447 --> 00:22:39,652
Dan Goler: That's the absurdity of the situation,

589
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Dan Goler: which nobody keeps any gate.

590
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Dan Goler: There's operational freedom.

591
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Dan Goler: That's it.

592
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Dan Goler: It's the level of emergence that you are,

593
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Dan Goler: according to both your physical and mental

594
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Dan Goler: and spiritual abilities to perceive and

595
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Dan Goler: interact with.

596
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Dan Goler: That's it.

597
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Dan Goler: So if, uh, is um, the fact that an ant

598
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Dan Goler: can't build spaceships has anything to do

599
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Dan Goler: with us gatekeeping and keeping a secret

600
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Dan Goler: how to build spaceships?

601
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Dan Goler: No, the end just has no operational freedom

602
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Dan Goler: to do so because of whatever it is.

603
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Dan Goler: In the same way, we don't have operational

604
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Dan Goler: freedom to do a lot of things that other

605
00:23:18,656 --> 00:23:21,150
Dan Goler: beings that are much more evolved have the

606
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Dan Goler: operational freedom to do.

607
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Dan Goler: So the funny thing is, if nobody's keeping

608
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Dan Goler: any gate, it's just that when you evolve

609
00:23:32,185 --> 00:23:33,009
Dan Goler: and evolution is a natural process that

610
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:33,914
Dan Goler: happens across all levels, across all

611
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Dan Goler: dimensions.

612
00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:36,505
Dan Goler: When you evolve to a certain level of

613
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Dan Goler: understanding, the beings that are aware of

614
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Dan Goler: you from a higher perspective, they can

615
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Dan Goler: create protocols that help you understand

616
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Dan Goler: things with more ease, or be birthed into

617
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Dan Goler: these new understandings with greater uh,

618
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Dan Goler: with less risk.

619
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Dan Goler: Just like a practice, just like in a case

620
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Dan Goler: of an actual pregnancy.

621
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Dan Goler: It's a natural process that will unfold

622
00:24:00,787 --> 00:24:01,348
Dan Goler: either way.

623
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Dan Goler: It will happen either way, but in the

624
00:24:04,094 --> 00:24:07,849
Dan Goler: modern world, we found ways to you know, uh,

625
00:24:07,969 --> 00:24:09,756
Dan Goler: create a more safe environment for it to

626
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Dan Goler: happen.

627
00:24:10,097 --> 00:24:10,519
Dan Goler: Now, again, again.

628
00:24:10,539 --> 00:24:12,084
Dan Goler: Some people will disagree with that at this

629
00:24:12,144 --> 00:24:13,710
Dan Goler: point because people demonize basically

630
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:15,287
Dan Goler: every institution we have, which I think is

631
00:24:15,327 --> 00:24:15,890
Dan Goler: also a mistake.

632
00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:19,875
Dan Goler: But ultimately, you know what I mean

633
00:24:20,105 --> 00:24:22,686
Dan Goler: there's processes you can cater to, with

634
00:24:22,726 --> 00:24:24,646
Dan Goler: natural processes already occurring, which

635
00:24:24,666 --> 00:24:26,132
Dan Goler: I think is exactly what's happening from

636
00:24:26,152 --> 00:24:26,774
Dan Goler: the higher space.

637
00:24:26,905 --> 00:24:29,730
Dan Goler: It's almost like if monkeys now which, by

638
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:30,806
Dan Goler: the way, it's kind of interesting because

639
00:24:30,926 --> 00:24:32,010
Dan Goler: some monkeys are exhibiting these

640
00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:34,016
Dan Goler: properties now, I don't know if you know,

641
00:24:34,065 --> 00:24:36,695
Dan Goler: but some monkeys showed the predispensation

642
00:24:36,735 --> 00:24:39,123
Dan Goler: to use, uh, certain tools that they never

643
00:24:39,164 --> 00:24:41,773
Dan Goler: used before, like spears, fish with spears,

644
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:42,917
Dan Goler: which we've never seen before.

645
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,885
Dan Goler: So it's almost like they're now slowly

646
00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:48,953
Dan Goler: stepping into their uh stone age right, and

647
00:24:49,093 --> 00:24:51,137
Dan Goler: that's interesting because we kind of of a

648
00:24:51,217 --> 00:24:53,228
Dan Goler: similar flavor on the same planet, forget

649
00:24:53,248 --> 00:24:54,948
Dan Goler: about the same dimension, same planet, same

650
00:24:54,968 --> 00:24:55,531
Dan Goler: physical realm.

651
00:24:56,465 --> 00:24:58,273
Dan Goler: We kind of see this similar trajectory to

652
00:24:58,606 --> 00:25:00,527
Dan Goler: what we went through and we see them going

653
00:25:00,547 --> 00:25:00,770
Dan Goler: through it.

654
00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:03,537
Dan Goler: Okay, now they're just fishing, but imagine

655
00:25:03,557 --> 00:25:04,928
Dan Goler: they're going to start getting into a level

656
00:25:04,968 --> 00:25:07,673
Dan Goler: where they start doing things closer and

657
00:25:07,713 --> 00:25:09,008
Dan Goler: closer to what humans are doing.

658
00:25:09,831 --> 00:25:12,032
Dan Goler: Do we have an obligation to help them maybe

659
00:25:13,257 --> 00:25:16,328
Dan Goler: not make the amount of mistakes we had to

660
00:25:16,389 --> 00:25:18,315
Dan Goler: make and suffer through for thousands of

661
00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:18,616
Dan Goler: years?

662
00:25:18,986 --> 00:25:21,813
Dan Goler: Can we circumvent some of these issues that

663
00:25:21,873 --> 00:25:23,686
Dan Goler: we kind of learned the lessons from and

664
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Dan Goler: help them?

665
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:26,946
Dan Goler: Not intervene in the process, but create

666
00:25:26,966 --> 00:25:28,708
Dan Goler: the right conditions for them to suffer

667
00:25:28,768 --> 00:25:30,930
Dan Goler: less, for less time, okay, but create the

668
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Dan Goler: right conditions for them to suffer less

669
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Dan Goler: for less time.

670
00:25:33,153 --> 00:25:34,654
Dan Goler: So that's essentially a more equivalent

671
00:25:34,674 --> 00:25:35,896
Dan Goler: situation to what we're going through.

672
00:25:35,916 --> 00:25:37,918
Dan Goler: We're starting to understand and they can

673
00:25:37,958 --> 00:25:39,319
Dan Goler: help us to some degree to understand.

674
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Dan Goler: They can't tell us anything because if they

675
00:25:40,881 --> 00:25:46,052
Dan Goler: do we won't be able to evolve properly, to

676
00:25:46,072 --> 00:25:46,860
Dan Goler: have the right tools to do it ourselves,

677
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,208
Dan Goler: but they can give us hints, they can kind

678
00:25:48,248 --> 00:25:49,914
Dan Goler: of create the right environments for us.

679
00:25:50,386 --> 00:25:51,652
Dan Goler: That's more close to what we're doing.

680
00:25:52,165 --> 00:25:53,411
Dan Goler: And the last point I want to touch on

681
00:25:54,147 --> 00:25:57,355
Dan Goler: because it has been my hobby horse in the

682
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Dan Goler: last few months, because I think it's very

683
00:25:58,609 --> 00:26:01,490
Dan Goler: important is that one of the most

684
00:26:01,671 --> 00:26:07,528
Dan Goler: components of our new arising paradigm is

685
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Dan Goler: the moving the finger from pointing

686
00:26:09,112 --> 00:26:11,536
Dan Goler: outwards to pointing inwards, and that

687
00:26:11,896 --> 00:26:15,358
Dan Goler: basically eliminates the.

688
00:26:16,959 --> 00:26:18,881
Dan Goler: We want to eliminate as much as possible

689
00:26:19,121 --> 00:26:21,863
Dan Goler: the impulse to point to something else as

690
00:26:21,883 --> 00:26:22,323
Dan Goler: the problem.

691
00:26:23,185 --> 00:26:25,571
Dan Goler: Bill Gates, fauci, aliens.

692
00:26:26,352 --> 00:26:27,736
Ryan McCormick: Yeah, in here, right here.

693
00:26:28,056 --> 00:26:28,818
Ryan McCormick: What did you do today?

694
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Dan Goler: How many people did you make happy today?

695
00:26:31,572 --> 00:26:32,415
Dan Goler: Did you wash the dishes?

696
00:26:33,487 --> 00:26:34,787
Dan Goler: What happened in your day where you can

697
00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:35,711
Dan Goler: actually influence things?

698
00:26:36,826 --> 00:26:40,831
Dan Goler: So the more people do that, the more we're

699
00:26:40,851 --> 00:26:41,995
Dan Goler: going to live in a much better world.

700
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Dan Goler: Because Bill Gates has no power over

701
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Dan Goler: anybody and again, I don't even know enough

702
00:26:46,291 --> 00:26:48,647
Dan Goler: about I know that it's a meme and I know

703
00:26:48,927 --> 00:26:52,357
Dan Goler: people hate him and Fauauci and elon musk

704
00:26:52,397 --> 00:26:53,892
Dan Goler: for many reasons but he's trying to kill

705
00:26:53,933 --> 00:26:55,762
Dan Goler: everyone on planet earth and he's releasing

706
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Dan Goler: it see, I don't know that, I don't know,

707
00:26:58,051 --> 00:26:59,737
Dan Goler: yeah, I don't know that, and I'm sorry to

708
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Dan Goler: break the news here

709
00:27:01,343 --> 00:27:02,266
Dan Goler: no, I'm not sure that's true.

710
00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:06,858
Dan Goler: So so the the thing there is that even in

711
00:27:06,878 --> 00:27:09,224
Dan Goler: the case of the worst, the most despicable

712
00:27:09,264 --> 00:27:12,153
Dan Goler: people that you can find, people that we

713
00:27:12,173 --> 00:27:14,469
Dan Goler: can, let's say, both agree that they did

714
00:27:14,509 --> 00:27:16,053
Dan Goler: what they did right, like hitler, like

715
00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:18,528
Dan Goler: things like that even in that case, even

716
00:27:18,588 --> 00:27:20,933
Dan Goler: though it is true that in the immediate

717
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,697
Dan Goler: moment, if you can't stop them physically,

718
00:27:22,757 --> 00:27:25,288
Dan Goler: you should because of whatever it is, the

719
00:27:25,428 --> 00:27:28,333
Dan Goler: hating them part needs to get out of the

720
00:27:28,373 --> 00:27:28,794
Dan Goler: equation.

721
00:27:29,495 --> 00:27:32,279
Dan Goler: Okay, because the hating them creates a

722
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,631
Dan Goler: disturbance in you that then propagates in

723
00:27:35,651 --> 00:27:37,896
Dan Goler: a particular way and it prevents you from

724
00:27:38,036 --> 00:27:39,628
Dan Goler: entering a certain stage of development.

725
00:27:39,708 --> 00:27:41,418
Dan Goler: It's literally just blocking you personally

726
00:27:41,458 --> 00:27:43,767
Dan Goler: and there it blocks us collectively, so

727
00:27:43,947 --> 00:27:45,550
Dan Goler: kind of turning your other cheek.

728
00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:49,376
Dan Goler: Deepest idea there is not that you just

729
00:27:49,496 --> 00:27:51,599
Dan Goler: allow things to happen however they will

730
00:27:51,659 --> 00:27:53,027
Dan Goler: and you don't intervene in anything.

731
00:27:53,468 --> 00:27:55,974
Dan Goler: The point is that the emotion that is

732
00:27:56,074 --> 00:28:00,611
Dan Goler: coupled usually with these pushbacks is

733
00:28:00,811 --> 00:28:03,336
Dan Goler: preventing from the right evolution to take

734
00:28:03,396 --> 00:28:03,696
Dan Goler: place.

735
00:28:03,917 --> 00:28:05,059
Dan Goler: So it's a very technical thing.

736
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,552
Dan Goler: So you know the, the buddhist, uh, the

737
00:28:07,572 --> 00:28:08,254
Dan Goler: shaolin monks.

738
00:28:08,796 --> 00:28:10,903
Dan Goler: They're buddhists in nature, but usually

739
00:28:11,043 --> 00:28:12,308
Dan Goler: zen buddhists, which is a little bit more

740
00:28:12,348 --> 00:28:15,580
Dan Goler: militant in its nature, and they have this

741
00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,508
Dan Goler: concept of of compassionate killing and the

742
00:28:18,548 --> 00:28:21,074
Dan Goler: idea there is that, well, even though we

743
00:28:21,114 --> 00:28:23,728
Dan Goler: are practicing buddhists and we are trying

744
00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,595
Dan Goler: to, you know, do everything we can to be

745
00:28:25,615 --> 00:28:27,963
Dan Goler: the most peaceful people, we are practicing

746
00:28:28,003 --> 00:28:30,259
Dan Goler: this very powerful martial art that allows,

747
00:28:30,481 --> 00:28:32,649
Dan Goler: gives us certain physical tools, but it

748
00:28:32,689 --> 00:28:34,333
Dan Goler: carries a responsibility, and one of these

749
00:28:34,373 --> 00:28:37,809
Dan Goler: responsibilities that you, you operate as

750
00:28:38,069 --> 00:28:40,254
Dan Goler: close to the divine as you possibly can,

751
00:28:40,434 --> 00:28:41,957
Dan Goler: and part of that is basically, if

752
00:28:42,598 --> 00:28:44,669
Dan Goler: somebody's trying to kill you and you did

753
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:46,714
Dan Goler: everything you could to avoid it, you try

754
00:28:46,734 --> 00:28:48,948
Dan Goler: to run away, you try to talk them out of it.

755
00:28:48,968 --> 00:28:51,215
Dan Goler: You, you try to do everything in the

756
00:28:51,265 --> 00:28:53,170
Dan Goler: checklist you could possibly do, and yet

757
00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:55,896
Dan Goler: still, somehow, right now, you're cornered.

758
00:28:56,437 --> 00:28:58,788
Dan Goler: They have a knife, there's nowhere to go.

759
00:28:59,970 --> 00:29:03,176
Dan Goler: You can kill them, but you do it without a

760
00:29:03,236 --> 00:29:03,817
Dan Goler: shred of hate.

761
00:29:04,979 --> 00:29:06,668
Dan Goler: You do it, in that instance, with a lot of

762
00:29:06,729 --> 00:29:08,975
Dan Goler: compassion and understanding that in this

763
00:29:09,055 --> 00:29:10,948
Dan Goler: moment in time, they did not have enough of

764
00:29:11,008 --> 00:29:13,214
Dan Goler: whatever was required to rise to the next

765
00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:14,577
Dan Goler: level, to understand what they're doing is

766
00:29:14,645 --> 00:29:14,965
Dan Goler: terrible.

767
00:29:15,546 --> 00:29:18,531
Dan Goler: So you will help them not do that.

768
00:29:19,573 --> 00:29:23,999
Dan Goler: Not, but it's at no point, and this is a

769
00:29:24,019 --> 00:29:25,890
Dan Goler: difficult thing to do while you're taking

770
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:26,532
Dan Goler: somebody's life.

771
00:29:28,138 --> 00:29:29,763
Dan Goler: It's actually one of the highest practices

772
00:29:29,804 --> 00:29:31,290
Dan Goler: to basically, at the same time, have love

773
00:29:31,365 --> 00:29:34,471
Dan Goler: for them while you're killing them, and so

774
00:29:34,491 --> 00:29:37,858
Dan Goler: that's a very extreme example, right, but

775
00:29:38,198 --> 00:29:40,974
Dan Goler: it has to be real and in that sense, all of

776
00:29:41,034 --> 00:29:43,342
Dan Goler: these levels of us pointing to politicians

777
00:29:43,382 --> 00:29:45,007
Dan Goler: and people in power and all that and saying,

778
00:29:45,448 --> 00:29:46,411
Dan Goler: look at what you're doing like.

779
00:29:46,912 --> 00:29:49,165
Dan Goler: What is happening in action is that we're

780
00:29:49,111 --> 00:29:50,572
Dan Goler: exerting zero change to what they're doing.

781
00:29:50,518 --> 00:29:50,782
Dan Goler: We can if you're working on it like.

782
00:29:50,728 --> 00:29:51,113
Dan Goler: What is happening in action is that we're

783
00:29:51,059 --> 00:29:51,979
Dan Goler: exerting zero change to what they're doing.

784
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,263
Dan Goler: We can, we can if you're working on it.

785
00:29:54,303 --> 00:29:56,126
Dan Goler: Like if you, you know, organizing groups,

786
00:29:56,888 --> 00:29:59,634
Dan Goler: working on policies changes, working to

787
00:29:59,674 --> 00:30:01,778
Dan Goler: investors to create new kinds of structures

788
00:30:02,205 --> 00:30:03,449
Dan Goler: wonderful, you should be doing that.

789
00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:05,155
Dan Goler: That's powerful, that's doing something in

790
00:30:05,195 --> 00:30:05,456
Dan Goler: the world.

791
00:30:05,806 --> 00:30:07,349
Dan Goler: But most people, that's not the kind of

792
00:30:07,389 --> 00:30:08,652
Dan Goler: power they're trying to practice.

793
00:30:08,672 --> 00:30:11,318
Dan Goler: They're just talking online to one another,

794
00:30:11,585 --> 00:30:13,030
Dan Goler: virtue signaling about what they think

795
00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:14,194
Dan Goler: about this person or that person.

796
00:30:14,586 --> 00:30:16,933
Dan Goler: They're making zero actions to actually

797
00:30:16,953 --> 00:30:19,350
Dan Goler: change anything and really it's a selfish

798
00:30:19,491 --> 00:30:21,771
Dan Goler: act, because what we're doing there is that

799
00:30:21,811 --> 00:30:23,336
Dan Goler: we're essentially just running our mouths

800
00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:25,112
Dan Goler: without making any difference to the world

801
00:30:25,245 --> 00:30:27,157
Dan Goler: and at the same time, we're invoking a

802
00:30:27,317 --> 00:30:29,428
Dan Goler: negative emotion in ourselves and in others

803
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:31,386
Dan Goler: about the state of the world.

804
00:30:31,927 --> 00:30:34,452
Dan Goler: So they are definitely not the ones to

805
00:30:34,492 --> 00:30:37,579
Dan Goler: blame, the insectozoids, the environment is.

806
00:30:38,025 --> 00:30:38,426
Dan Goler: They're not.

807
00:30:38,847 --> 00:30:41,152
Dan Goler: Their responsibility is not to steer the

808
00:30:41,192 --> 00:30:43,638
Dan Goler: course of events whatsoever, it's just to

809
00:30:43,678 --> 00:30:45,108
Dan Goler: make sure that the environment is solid.

810
00:30:45,168 --> 00:30:48,116
Dan Goler: So the laws of physics, everything else is

811
00:30:48,156 --> 00:30:49,038
Dan Goler: completely open-ended.

812
00:30:49,666 --> 00:30:51,553
Dan Goler: So, whatever happens, in that sense, it's

813
00:30:51,593 --> 00:30:53,170
Dan Goler: exactly how you would imagine it to be if

814
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:54,697
Dan Goler: we would just be living in a physical world.

815
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,227
Dan Goler: Everything is our doing, everything that

816
00:30:57,247 --> 00:30:59,051
Dan Goler: happens here is our responsibility.

817
00:30:59,753 --> 00:31:01,738
Dan Goler: And but and now you're playing, starting to

818
00:31:01,758 --> 00:31:03,769
Dan Goler: play the levels of the responsibility of

819
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:05,854
Dan Goler: the individual versus the collective versus

820
00:31:05,875 --> 00:31:07,927
Dan Goler: the thing, and again, a lot of these things

821
00:31:08,128 --> 00:31:10,595
Dan Goler: are easier said than done, but they have to

822
00:31:10,635 --> 00:31:12,868
Dan Goler: be done if we are to get to some kind of a

823
00:31:12,929 --> 00:31:13,510
Dan Goler: next level.

824
00:31:14,252 --> 00:31:16,577
Dan Goler: Uh, you know guillotines and hanging people

825
00:31:16,617 --> 00:31:18,410
Dan Goler: in power and the fact that we're

826
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:20,359
Dan Goler: celebrating the murder of a person because

827
00:31:20,439 --> 00:31:23,587
Dan Goler: we think that it was justified, um, that

828
00:31:23,967 --> 00:31:26,570
Dan Goler: needs to go, because it's simply it's not a

829
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:27,171
Dan Goler: matter of.

830
00:31:27,191 --> 00:31:28,452
Dan Goler: It's not a matter of um, it's simply it's

831
00:31:28,532 --> 00:31:34,979
Dan Goler: not a matter of understanding the plight of

832
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,861
Dan Goler: the less fortunate ones.

833
00:31:43,065 --> 00:31:43,888
Dan Goler: It has to do with a universal principle

834
00:31:43,908 --> 00:31:44,731
Dan Goler: that your inner state, your signature,

835
00:31:44,751 --> 00:31:46,137
Dan Goler: dictates immediately what kind of a channel

836
00:31:46,157 --> 00:31:47,221
Dan Goler: you're going to be aligned with.

837
00:31:47,825 --> 00:31:48,570
Dan Goler: And if the emotion in you not you

838
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:49,174
Dan Goler: personally, but all if the.

839
00:31:49,235 --> 00:31:50,624
Dan Goler: If the emotion in you not you personally,

840
00:31:50,644 --> 00:31:53,711
Dan Goler: but all of us the emotion in us is one of

841
00:31:53,771 --> 00:31:56,937
Dan Goler: vitriol and seething hate, no matter how

842
00:31:57,017 --> 00:31:58,086
Dan Goler: justified you think it is.

843
00:31:58,106 --> 00:31:59,249
Dan Goler: That makes no difference whatsoever.

844
00:31:59,289 --> 00:31:59,951
Dan Goler: That's a concept.

845
00:32:00,332 --> 00:32:01,916
Dan Goler: But the fact that you're occupying that

846
00:32:01,985 --> 00:32:04,636
Dan Goler: state just steers you in the direction of

847
00:32:04,676 --> 00:32:06,724
Dan Goler: these kind of emotions, and that's where

848
00:32:06,744 --> 00:32:07,305
Dan Goler: you're going to find.

849
00:32:07,325 --> 00:32:08,568
Dan Goler: You're going to find yourself in a world

850
00:32:08,588 --> 00:32:10,351
Dan Goler: where more of that is being expressed

851
00:32:11,253 --> 00:32:12,976
Dan Goler: versus a neutral state.

852
00:32:13,918 --> 00:32:14,399
Ryan McCormick: Well said.

853
00:32:14,439 --> 00:32:17,692
Ryan McCormick: Thank you, amazing job addressing my

854
00:32:17,752 --> 00:32:19,417
Ryan McCormick: 10-part question over there, danny.

855
00:32:19,665 --> 00:32:22,611
Ryan McCormick: And I want to bring your attention that a

856
00:32:23,232 --> 00:32:25,556
Ryan McCormick: dear teacher of mine, swami Satchidanand,

857
00:32:26,458 --> 00:32:29,733
Ryan McCormick: has told me and she's scolded me in a very

858
00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:33,843
Ryan McCormick: nice way, but she said do not judge, do not.

859
00:32:34,084 --> 00:32:37,014
Ryan McCormick: You see the evil, do not judge the evil,

860
00:32:37,054 --> 00:32:38,118
Ryan McCormick: you become the evil.

861
00:32:38,258 --> 00:32:40,044
Ryan McCormick: Focus on the light, you will become the

862
00:32:40,164 --> 00:32:40,365
Ryan McCormick: light.

863
00:32:40,445 --> 00:32:41,987
Ryan McCormick: You must, that's what you must do.

864
00:32:42,788 --> 00:32:46,292
Ryan McCormick: So I thought your point was well, uh, well

865
00:32:46,332 --> 00:32:48,915
Ryan McCormick: spoken and and terrific how you explain

866
00:32:48,935 --> 00:32:53,060
Ryan McCormick: that when you'd mentioned that, okay, well,

867
00:32:53,601 --> 00:32:56,941
Ryan McCormick: you know, an ant is not capable of building

868
00:32:57,242 --> 00:33:00,992
Ryan McCormick: a spaceship and maybe a human being is not

869
00:33:01,253 --> 00:33:04,969
Ryan McCormick: capable of, you know, ascending to a

870
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:05,712
Ryan McCormick: certain degree.

871
00:33:06,226 --> 00:33:08,848
Ryan McCormick: When you say that, I wonder if, okay, well,

872
00:33:08,868 --> 00:33:10,085
Ryan McCormick: we have at the moment.

873
00:33:10,105 --> 00:33:10,985
Ryan McCormick: Well, because we're looking at ants at the

874
00:33:10,936 --> 00:33:11,117
Ryan McCormick: moment?

875
00:33:11,068 --> 00:33:12,796
Ryan McCormick: Well, because we're looking at ants as a

876
00:33:12,836 --> 00:33:14,418
Ryan McCormick: physical species, we're looking at humans

877
00:33:14,478 --> 00:33:16,641
Ryan McCormick: as a physical species, an individual.

878
00:33:16,721 --> 00:33:19,049
Ryan McCormick: We had, on our show before, talked about

879
00:33:19,089 --> 00:33:20,792
Ryan McCormick: humans being no different than animals.

880
00:33:21,073 --> 00:33:23,759
Ryan McCormick: They're just animals and some of the

881
00:33:23,865 --> 00:33:27,494
Ryan McCormick: animals they are more inclined to listen to

882
00:33:27,575 --> 00:33:30,582
Ryan McCormick: the spirit within and grow, and a lot of

883
00:33:30,602 --> 00:33:32,487
Ryan McCormick: them just kind of do whatever the humans do,

884
00:33:32,527 --> 00:33:33,049
Ryan McCormick: whatever they add.

885
00:33:33,069 --> 00:33:34,874
Ryan McCormick: Their animal instincts tell them, but a

886
00:33:34,974 --> 00:33:36,887
Ryan McCormick: human will never be anything more than a

887
00:33:36,988 --> 00:33:37,289
Ryan McCormick: human.

888
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:39,736
Ryan McCormick: It may vary, but it'll never be anything

889
00:33:39,776 --> 00:33:40,017
Ryan McCormick: more.

890
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,826
Ryan McCormick: And going back and looking at humans

891
00:33:43,866 --> 00:33:46,249
Ryan McCormick: throughout I don't know, I'm sure we've

892
00:33:46,269 --> 00:33:48,331
Ryan McCormick: probably been here hundreds of thousands of

893
00:33:48,392 --> 00:33:52,817
Ryan McCormick: years it seems that humans, to a degree I

894
00:33:52,857 --> 00:33:54,599
Ryan McCormick: think they were actually more intelligent

895
00:33:56,001 --> 00:33:58,509
Ryan McCormick: years ago had a very good relationship with

896
00:33:58,529 --> 00:34:01,757
Ryan McCormick: the earth, grew their own food and were all

897
00:34:01,797 --> 00:34:04,791
Ryan McCormick: about grounding, and they seem to, you know,

898
00:34:05,393 --> 00:34:06,536
Ryan McCormick: barbaric at times.

899
00:34:06,617 --> 00:34:09,025
Ryan McCormick: But humans are very barbaric today.

900
00:34:09,125 --> 00:34:12,017
Ryan McCormick: They're just barbaric with, uh, new toys,

901
00:34:12,218 --> 00:34:16,230
Ryan McCormick: 5g missiles, uh, they're poisoning their

902
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:17,854
Ryan McCormick: collective with various foods.

903
00:34:18,154 --> 00:34:20,406
Ryan McCormick: It's very hard to find clean water at

904
00:34:20,446 --> 00:34:22,771
Ryan McCormick: certain times that it doesn't have fluoride

905
00:34:22,792 --> 00:34:22,952
Ryan McCormick: in it.

906
00:34:23,393 --> 00:34:24,074
Ryan McCormick: So I wonder if?

907
00:34:24,235 --> 00:34:24,375
Ryan McCormick: Um.

908
00:34:25,217 --> 00:34:29,671
Ryan McCormick: That being said, where do you see humans

909
00:34:29,731 --> 00:34:30,212
Ryan McCormick: evolving?

910
00:34:30,332 --> 00:34:33,416
Ryan McCormick: What is the peak capability of a human

911
00:34:33,536 --> 00:34:37,949
Ryan McCormick: being, and do you think that humans are

912
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:41,398
Ryan McCormick: only going to be as capable of evolution

913
00:34:42,020 --> 00:34:44,626
Ryan McCormick: based on the will and the desire of the

914
00:34:44,746 --> 00:34:46,729
Ryan McCormick: souls that reside within those physical

915
00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:47,250
Ryan McCormick: vehicles?

916
00:34:48,973 --> 00:34:52,759
Dan Goler: yes, so the the first thing to point out is

917
00:34:52,799 --> 00:34:55,388
Dan Goler: that I I didn't mean to say that it it is

918
00:34:55,769 --> 00:34:58,254
Dan Goler: uh, it is an eternal state.

919
00:34:58,294 --> 00:34:59,877
Dan Goler: I'm saying it is the state now and

920
00:34:59,917 --> 00:35:02,530
Dan Goler: accepting it is the, the freedom to

921
00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:03,652
Dan Goler: actually evolve, right.

922
00:35:04,133 --> 00:35:05,717
Dan Goler: So the evolution is always happening and

923
00:35:05,777 --> 00:35:07,468
Dan Goler: it's what's happening to us now.

924
00:35:08,590 --> 00:35:10,935
Dan Goler: I don't know enough about the specificities

925
00:35:11,096 --> 00:35:12,828
Dan Goler: of souls and all of that stuff.

926
00:35:12,848 --> 00:35:14,214
Dan Goler: From what I understand from people that

927
00:35:14,255 --> 00:35:16,385
Dan Goler: really care about this stuff is that souls

928
00:35:16,485 --> 00:35:18,555
Dan Goler: are eternal and do they do not evolve.

929
00:35:18,635 --> 00:35:20,162
Dan Goler: They're just kind of like this universal.

930
00:35:20,222 --> 00:35:21,827
Dan Goler: They're literally fragments of god.

931
00:35:21,867 --> 00:35:24,033
Dan Goler: They just kind of hover and collect data

932
00:35:24,053 --> 00:35:24,714
Dan Goler: around themselves.

933
00:35:25,496 --> 00:35:26,647
Dan Goler: Uh, I don't know either way.

934
00:35:27,029 --> 00:35:27,531
Dan Goler: I don't.

935
00:35:27,612 --> 00:35:29,360
Dan Goler: I don't have a lot riding on this, but, for

936
00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:30,947
Dan Goler: all intents and purposes, everything within

937
00:35:31,027 --> 00:35:33,326
Dan Goler: existence is evolving always, just like the

938
00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:34,931
Dan Goler: examples with some of the monkeys.

939
00:35:34,992 --> 00:35:37,185
Dan Goler: Now, right, so they are evolving and even

940
00:35:37,205 --> 00:35:38,827
Dan Goler: though we coexist, they are now evolving.

941
00:35:38,867 --> 00:35:40,348
Dan Goler: What thinking we're all that for a long

942
00:35:59,085 --> 00:36:02,794
Dan Goler: time, did to a lot of the biosphere and all

943
00:36:02,814 --> 00:36:05,721
Dan Goler: the negative things that you just listed,

944
00:36:05,982 --> 00:36:06,443
Dan Goler: right?

945
00:36:06,864 --> 00:36:09,390
Dan Goler: However, it's always a dangerous game

946
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:11,756
Dan Goler: because we we tend to overshoot things,

947
00:36:12,197 --> 00:36:13,747
Dan Goler: because we don't really know where to stop.

948
00:36:13,867 --> 00:36:17,495
Dan Goler: This is why I think the aim towards balance,

949
00:36:17,616 --> 00:36:19,606
Dan Goler: the aim towards equanimity, the aim towards

950
00:36:19,666 --> 00:36:23,991
Dan Goler: a balanced perception, state idea, even

951
00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:26,674
Dan Goler: ideologists ideologies, which sounds like a

952
00:36:26,714 --> 00:36:32,040
Dan Goler: weird oxymoron, but a flat ground on which

953
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:35,389
Dan Goler: you can stand and say what is what, when

954
00:36:36,071 --> 00:36:38,476
Dan Goler: and what is required next right.

955
00:36:38,497 --> 00:36:42,987
Dan Goler: So it removes a lot of the negative writing

956
00:36:43,047 --> 00:36:44,611
Dan Goler: emotion towards these things.

957
00:36:45,253 --> 00:36:47,217
Dan Goler: And again, as understandable as they are,

958
00:36:47,566 --> 00:36:50,861
Dan Goler: that will not excuse the fact about the

959
00:36:50,921 --> 00:36:53,410
Dan Goler: operational levels of existence, that when

960
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:56,601
Dan Goler: you occupy these states, you always find

961
00:36:56,641 --> 00:36:58,266
Dan Goler: yourself in more negative states because

962
00:36:58,306 --> 00:36:59,731
Dan Goler: that's the state you're occupying, that's

963
00:36:59,791 --> 00:37:01,135
Dan Goler: what's magnetizing towards you.

964
00:37:02,005 --> 00:37:05,812
Dan Goler: So, adopting frames that are more neutral

965
00:37:05,892 --> 00:37:08,638
Dan Goler: in nature and just point to what needs to

966
00:37:08,678 --> 00:37:12,627
Dan Goler: be done and why in nature, and just point

967
00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:13,530
Dan Goler: to the what needs to be done and why, and

968
00:37:13,570 --> 00:37:14,693
Dan Goler: that, by the way, includes the well-being

969
00:37:14,713 --> 00:37:16,820
Dan Goler: of different creatures so fully within this

970
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,728
Dan Goler: frame, you should take into account what is

971
00:37:19,748 --> 00:37:22,313
Dan Goler: the level of suffering in a particular

972
00:37:22,353 --> 00:37:22,854
Dan Goler: environment.

973
00:37:23,154 --> 00:37:26,306
Dan Goler: Right, so like, if you do this thing and it

974
00:37:26,346 --> 00:37:28,569
Dan Goler: causes it's seeming to cause a lot of

975
00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:31,832
Dan Goler: benefits for this part of the human society,

976
00:37:31,872 --> 00:37:34,195
Dan Goler: but at the same time you're creating

977
00:37:34,235 --> 00:37:36,238
Dan Goler: poverty for not just people but also

978
00:37:36,978 --> 00:37:39,401
Dan Goler: demolishing ecosystems where animals live.

979
00:37:42,448 --> 00:37:44,553
Dan Goler: So the tendency where we sit now most of

980
00:37:44,573 --> 00:37:45,716
Dan Goler: the time is to say, well, no, no, that's

981
00:37:45,736 --> 00:37:46,197
Dan Goler: just evil.

982
00:37:46,925 --> 00:37:48,150
Dan Goler: The more balanced frame would be.

983
00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:53,806
Dan Goler: Well, hold on, just evil.

984
00:37:53,826 --> 00:37:54,489
Dan Goler: The more balanced frame would be.

985
00:37:54,509 --> 00:37:54,770
Dan Goler: Well, hold on.

986
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:55,513
Dan Goler: So we are also part of that natural

987
00:37:55,533 --> 00:37:56,397
Dan Goler: tapestry trying to figure itself out and to

988
00:37:56,417 --> 00:37:57,743
Dan Goler: find an equilibrium in the environment that

989
00:37:57,803 --> 00:37:58,044
Dan Goler: it's in.

990
00:37:58,606 --> 00:38:00,811
Dan Goler: This is basically the same thing that

991
00:38:00,851 --> 00:38:01,974
Dan Goler: everything in the environment does.

992
00:38:02,936 --> 00:38:04,746
Dan Goler: So, instead of calling it evil, saying,

993
00:38:04,786 --> 00:38:06,730
Dan Goler: okay, we are kind of like teenagers trying

994
00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,412
Dan Goler: to figure it out, and we have a lot of

995
00:38:08,472 --> 00:38:11,117
Dan Goler: emotions and we don't always know how to

996
00:38:11,237 --> 00:38:14,450
Dan Goler: act from the wisest frame, but we're doing

997
00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:14,892
Dan Goler: our best.

998
00:38:15,606 --> 00:38:18,094
Dan Goler: And this little adage of like we're doing

999
00:38:18,134 --> 00:38:20,600
Dan Goler: our best removes a little bit of the

1000
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,290
Dan Goler: pressure and the thought that we're like a

1001
00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:25,706
Dan Goler: virus versus the more truthful thing, which

1002
00:38:25,766 --> 00:38:28,246
Dan Goler: is that, well, we have a lot of power and

1003
00:38:28,769 --> 00:38:31,681
Dan Goler: our wisdom is not quite keeping the right

1004
00:38:31,742 --> 00:38:32,525
Dan Goler: track with it, right?

1005
00:38:32,565 --> 00:38:34,209
Dan Goler: So we're trying to grow into the wisdom as

1006
00:38:34,269 --> 00:38:36,535
Dan Goler: well, because things like us in the

1007
00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:38,849
Dan Goler: universe, the ones that can do things that

1008
00:38:38,889 --> 00:38:41,194
Dan Goler: are more advanced in in whatever

1009
00:38:41,235 --> 00:38:43,787
Dan Goler: environment they find themselves in, has

1010
00:38:43,807 --> 00:38:46,351
Dan Goler: the responsibility to also evolve their own

1011
00:38:46,952 --> 00:38:48,816
Dan Goler: well, wisdom and connection to the divine.

1012
00:38:48,876 --> 00:38:51,179
Dan Goler: So the expression of these technologies

1013
00:38:51,665 --> 00:38:53,849
Dan Goler: would be influenced by these impulses of

1014
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:58,518
Dan Goler: preservation, uh, beauty, uh, the greater

1015
00:38:58,538 --> 00:39:01,269
Dan Goler: good of all, versus just gain and power.

1016
00:39:01,429 --> 00:39:03,173
Dan Goler: And, and what I want, right?

1017
00:39:03,193 --> 00:39:05,318
Dan Goler: So, a more universal scope of perception,

1018
00:39:06,346 --> 00:39:09,774
Dan Goler: and I think that we are really starting to

1019
00:39:09,854 --> 00:39:11,986
Dan Goler: get there in a lot of different ways, but

1020
00:39:12,026 --> 00:39:13,308
Dan Goler: at the same time we still have the old

1021
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:15,313
Dan Goler: patterns running in the background and all

1022
00:39:15,333 --> 00:39:16,174
Dan Goler: the stuff that we've done.

1023
00:39:16,214 --> 00:39:18,439
Dan Goler: That was well, I guess we can say wrong.

1024
00:39:18,825 --> 00:39:20,991
Dan Goler: I don't think there's anything wrong with

1025
00:39:21,032 --> 00:39:22,656
Dan Goler: saying wrong when it is wrong, right.

1026
00:39:23,665 --> 00:39:26,070
Dan Goler: So like raping the environment to the

1027
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:28,715
Dan Goler: extent that we did fluoride and water, all

1028
00:39:28,735 --> 00:39:29,656
Dan Goler: the stuff that you listed right, to the

1029
00:39:29,676 --> 00:39:31,860
Dan Goler: extent that we did fluoride and water, all

1030
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,604
Dan Goler: the stuff that you listed right.

1031
00:39:33,664 --> 00:39:37,908
Dan Goler: But again, we will not actually be able to

1032
00:39:37,928 --> 00:39:39,132
Dan Goler: step out of that and get to a higher level

1033
00:39:39,152 --> 00:39:39,995
Dan Goler: of operation that will fix all of these

1034
00:39:40,015 --> 00:39:40,797
Dan Goler: problems if we're going to keep just

1035
00:39:40,818 --> 00:39:42,945
Dan Goler: chastising ourselves for all the mistakes

1036
00:39:43,365 --> 00:39:44,809
Dan Goler: right we have at certain points say, okay,

1037
00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:48,677
Dan Goler: we fucked up, okay, we admit it, okay.

1038
00:39:48,737 --> 00:39:52,079
Dan Goler: But now the self-loathing doesn't make

1039
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:53,024
Dan Goler: sense, right?

1040
00:39:53,064 --> 00:39:55,070
Dan Goler: Because then you, it's like in a car

1041
00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:56,935
Dan Goler: accident, like where your eyes go, that's

1042
00:39:56,955 --> 00:39:58,326
Dan Goler: where your car is going to go, even though

1043
00:39:58,367 --> 00:39:59,289
Dan Goler: the car is out of control.

1044
00:39:59,590 --> 00:40:01,095
Dan Goler: Where your eyes go, that's where your car

1045
00:40:01,115 --> 00:40:01,476
Dan Goler: is going to go.

1046
00:40:01,536 --> 00:40:02,848
Dan Goler: If you're looking at that pole, you will

1047
00:40:02,948 --> 00:40:03,229
Dan Goler: end up.

1048
00:40:03,550 --> 00:40:05,134
Dan Goler: Your car is going to end up at that pole,

1049
00:40:05,575 --> 00:40:05,796
Dan Goler: right?

1050
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:08,710
Dan Goler: So now you, you got to take your eyes away

1051
00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:10,714
Dan Goler: from the disaster, not because you're

1052
00:40:10,734 --> 00:40:11,776
Dan Goler: trying to look away, but because you're

1053
00:40:11,796 --> 00:40:13,039
Dan Goler: trying to aim for something better.

1054
00:40:13,847 --> 00:40:14,851
Dan Goler: What can we be?

1055
00:40:15,185 --> 00:40:18,032
Dan Goler: How can we remedy all the ills that we

1056
00:40:18,072 --> 00:40:20,258
Dan Goler: brought upon the biosphere?

1057
00:40:20,926 --> 00:40:25,605
Dan Goler: That should be the focus, to my mind, and

1058
00:40:25,705 --> 00:40:27,746
Dan Goler: ultimately, again, it's a hard thing to do,

1059
00:40:27,786 --> 00:40:29,647
Dan Goler: of course, because there's a lot of emotion

1060
00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:30,067
Dan Goler: involved.

1061
00:40:30,808 --> 00:40:34,169
Dan Goler: Ultimately, again, it's a hard thing to do,

1062
00:40:34,189 --> 00:40:35,990
Dan Goler: of course, because there's a lot of emotion

1063
00:40:36,010 --> 00:40:38,471
Dan Goler: involved, but don't forget that there is a

1064
00:40:38,491 --> 00:40:39,912
Dan Goler: difference between what humans are on this

1065
00:40:39,932 --> 00:40:42,533
Dan Goler: planet, at least than other animals, and

1066
00:40:43,194 --> 00:40:45,335
Dan Goler: there's some very clear distinctions.

1067
00:40:46,075 --> 00:40:49,416
Dan Goler: We can press and transform the environment

1068
00:40:50,977 --> 00:40:53,919
Dan Goler: in which we, the one that we came from,

1069
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:57,260
Dan Goler: faster than it can influence our genes.

1070
00:40:58,101 --> 00:40:59,521
Dan Goler: That's the first time it happened on this

1071
00:40:59,581 --> 00:41:01,922
Dan Goler: planet, and that actually gives us the

1072
00:41:01,982 --> 00:41:03,543
Dan Goler: level of control and power that no other

1073
00:41:03,583 --> 00:41:08,346
Dan Goler: being has, because we don't have to

1074
00:41:08,366 --> 00:41:09,388
Dan Goler: specialize in the environment that we're in.

1075
00:41:09,408 --> 00:41:10,270
Dan Goler: We can literally transform the environment

1076
00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:10,691
Dan Goler: to fit what we need.

1077
00:41:10,711 --> 00:41:12,194
Dan Goler: So now, that's a more universal function,

1078
00:41:12,254 --> 00:41:14,405
Dan Goler: that this is also why we can do things that

1079
00:41:14,445 --> 00:41:16,791
Dan Goler: go to space and things like this, and I

1080
00:41:16,851 --> 00:41:17,854
Dan Goler: don't think it's a coincidence.

1081
00:41:18,535 --> 00:41:19,927
Dan Goler: One way of looking at it is something that

1082
00:41:19,967 --> 00:41:21,371
Dan Goler: Terence McKenna used to talk about, which

1083
00:41:21,411 --> 00:41:23,386
Dan Goler: is I like this idea because it creates this

1084
00:41:23,446 --> 00:41:24,067
Dan Goler: balanced view.

1085
00:41:25,088 --> 00:41:27,372
Dan Goler: What if the earth, because it's such an

1086
00:41:27,452 --> 00:41:29,896
Dan Goler: enormous thing, if it is a living thing and

1087
00:41:29,936 --> 00:41:33,747
Dan Goler: I believe it is it also has a mind that has,

1088
00:41:34,909 --> 00:41:37,334
Dan Goler: uh, goals and goals that we don't

1089
00:41:37,374 --> 00:41:38,756
Dan Goler: understand on how it operates?

1090
00:41:38,837 --> 00:41:42,810
Dan Goler: But because of its size it can probably

1091
00:41:42,911 --> 00:41:45,316
Dan Goler: also see further into time, just just like

1092
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,086
Dan Goler: you can kind of see further into space,

1093
00:41:47,346 --> 00:41:49,471
Dan Goler: right, but they can also see further into

1094
00:41:49,511 --> 00:41:49,731
Dan Goler: time.

1095
00:41:49,812 --> 00:41:52,758
Dan Goler: And what if the earth saw some of the

1096
00:41:52,818 --> 00:41:54,931
Dan Goler: events that might be already potentially

1097
00:41:54,991 --> 00:41:56,889
Dan Goler: looming in the distance and said, okay,

1098
00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:00,666
Dan Goler: hold on, I got hit way too many times with

1099
00:42:00,686 --> 00:42:01,931
Dan Goler: all these crazy disasters.

1100
00:42:02,192 --> 00:42:04,685
Dan Goler: Okay, what if I create the right conditions

1101
00:42:05,309 --> 00:42:07,425
Dan Goler: to allow for a new kind of being to evolve

1102
00:42:07,546 --> 00:42:08,605
Dan Goler: that is going to be more advanced, it's

1103
00:42:08,625 --> 00:42:09,751
Dan Goler: going to be like my defense system?

1104
00:42:10,668 --> 00:42:12,726
Dan Goler: So it created the right conditions for

1105
00:42:12,786 --> 00:42:15,309
Dan Goler: things like us to come in, because if

1106
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:17,327
Dan Goler: another asteroid comes, like the ones that

1107
00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:22,022
Dan Goler: wiped out the dinosaurs, potentially it's

1108
00:42:22,062 --> 00:42:23,711
Dan Goler: not guaranteed that we'll be able to do it,

1109
00:42:23,805 --> 00:42:25,926
Dan Goler: but potentially we're the only ones that

1110
00:42:25,946 --> 00:42:28,454
Dan Goler: can save the biosphere, right this time.

1111
00:42:30,128 --> 00:42:32,413
Dan Goler: So we might be a tool that the earth

1112
00:42:32,555 --> 00:42:35,551
Dan Goler: actually allowed to evolve to help create

1113
00:42:35,691 --> 00:42:38,220
Dan Goler: both a defense system and also protect the

1114
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,540
Dan Goler: biosphere and allow it to also spread

1115
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,908
Dan Goler: throughout the universe, because wherever

1116
00:42:41,928 --> 00:42:43,247
Dan Goler: we're going to go, we're going to take

1117
00:42:43,347 --> 00:42:45,727
Dan Goler: animals and plants and everything else, so

1118
00:42:45,747 --> 00:42:47,072
Dan Goler: we're going to keep the biosphere going

1119
00:42:47,213 --> 00:42:47,434
Dan Goler: right.

1120
00:42:48,026 --> 00:42:53,389
Dan Goler: So it's possible that we are that tool and

1121
00:42:54,312 --> 00:42:55,876
Dan Goler: in a portion of the time that we were

1122
00:42:55,936 --> 00:42:57,991
Dan Goler: evolving something I don't want to say went

1123
00:42:58,051 --> 00:43:00,937
Dan Goler: wrong in this case, but it just like it

1124
00:43:00,977 --> 00:43:02,787
Dan Goler: didn't go exactly as expected and all of a

1125
00:43:02,828 --> 00:43:04,557
Dan Goler: sudden we started only thinking about

1126
00:43:04,597 --> 00:43:06,710
Dan Goler: ourselves because we lost that connection

1127
00:43:06,971 --> 00:43:08,576
Dan Goler: to mother nature.

1128
00:43:09,066 --> 00:43:11,173
Dan Goler: So we started kind of like behaving a

1129
00:43:11,193 --> 00:43:12,587
Dan Goler: little bit more like cancer, just like just

1130
00:43:12,627 --> 00:43:13,832
Dan Goler: for us, for us, for us, for us.

1131
00:43:14,305 --> 00:43:16,306
Dan Goler: Okay, but that can be remedied, right, you

1132
00:43:16,326 --> 00:43:18,212
Dan Goler: just change the bubble of perception from

1133
00:43:18,232 --> 00:43:21,031
Dan Goler: me, me, me, me, me, me, me to us, to we to

1134
00:43:21,654 --> 00:43:24,512
Dan Goler: all, and then slowly you start getting the

1135
00:43:24,572 --> 00:43:26,808
Dan Goler: benefits of the function that humans can

1136
00:43:26,848 --> 00:43:33,565
Dan Goler: bring about, coupled with, again, the

1137
00:43:33,585 --> 00:43:34,529
Dan Goler: connection to the all, the connection to

1138
00:43:34,549 --> 00:43:34,890
Dan Goler: the divine.

1139
00:43:34,951 --> 00:43:36,657
Dan Goler: So we can now operate as these custodians

1140
00:43:36,718 --> 00:43:38,183
Dan Goler: of knowledge and protectors of the

1141
00:43:38,223 --> 00:43:39,908
Dan Goler: environment versus the ones that just

1142
00:43:39,968 --> 00:43:40,570
Dan Goler: exploit it.

1143
00:43:41,673 --> 00:43:43,136
Dan Goler: And I like this idea because I think it's

1144
00:43:43,197 --> 00:43:44,569
Dan Goler: actually much closer to what's going on,

1145
00:43:45,251 --> 00:43:47,580
Dan Goler: and I'm pretty positive about it because,

1146
00:43:48,222 --> 00:43:49,647
Dan Goler: even with all the negative things that you

1147
00:43:49,667 --> 00:43:50,129
Dan Goler: just listed.

1148
00:43:50,992 --> 00:43:53,177
Dan Goler: I mean, at this point and I'm feel very

1149
00:43:53,218 --> 00:43:55,328
Dan Goler: blessed to be in that position I do meet

1150
00:43:55,629 --> 00:43:58,356
Dan Goler: some very powerful people and I got to tell

1151
00:43:58,397 --> 00:44:01,307
Dan Goler: you their heart is in the right place.

1152
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:03,966
Dan Goler: There's a lot of people in power that

1153
00:44:04,087 --> 00:44:06,402
Dan Goler: actually care deeply, and it's just, and

1154
00:44:06,523 --> 00:44:08,429
Dan Goler: they also making the moves, the proper

1155
00:44:08,469 --> 00:44:08,710
Dan Goler: moves.

1156
00:44:08,881 --> 00:44:10,379
Dan Goler: They invest money and all kinds of things

1157
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,020
Dan Goler: that they believe will actually bring a

1158
00:44:12,061 --> 00:44:13,106
Dan Goler: positive change to the world.

1159
00:44:14,003 --> 00:44:15,860
Dan Goler: Are they always managing to do it properly

1160
00:44:16,021 --> 00:44:17,707
Dan Goler: and everything they thought of will work

1161
00:44:17,788 --> 00:44:17,888
Dan Goler: out?

1162
00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:19,747
Dan Goler: No, that's never the case, right?

1163
00:44:20,001 --> 00:44:21,367
Dan Goler: You try something, it doesn't work.

1164
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:22,421
Dan Goler: You try something else and doesn't work.

1165
00:44:22,461 --> 00:44:23,342
Dan Goler: You try something else, and they're just

1166
00:44:23,382 --> 00:44:23,622
Dan Goler: people.

1167
00:44:23,742 --> 00:44:25,303
Dan Goler: They don't always know what the right

1168
00:44:25,383 --> 00:44:25,804
Dan Goler: answer is.

1169
00:44:26,824 --> 00:44:30,107
Dan Goler: So the collective has to also regain its

1170
00:44:30,247 --> 00:44:34,351
Dan Goler: trust in the right kind of powerful people,

1171
00:44:34,411 --> 00:44:39,115
Dan Goler: because the occupation of power is not

1172
00:44:39,235 --> 00:44:42,017
Dan Goler: always there because somebody tried to just

1173
00:44:42,057 --> 00:44:45,322
Dan Goler: grab the power there, because somebody

1174
00:44:45,342 --> 00:44:45,985
Dan Goler: tried to just grab the power.

1175
00:44:46,026 --> 00:44:46,950
Dan Goler: Very often it has to do with the archetype

1176
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:47,232
Dan Goler: that they are.

1177
00:44:47,252 --> 00:44:48,016
Dan Goler: Not everybody are good with money, not

1178
00:44:48,036 --> 00:44:48,618
Dan Goler: everybody are good with power.

1179
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:49,763
Dan Goler: Not everybody are born to do that.

1180
00:44:49,863 --> 00:44:51,227
Dan Goler: Some people are just, you know, they're

1181
00:44:51,247 --> 00:44:52,781
Dan Goler: just artists and they just want to create,

1182
00:44:53,082 --> 00:44:56,309
Dan Goler: and if you give them $50 billion, nothing's

1183
00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:58,013
Dan Goler: going to happen for anyone because they

1184
00:44:58,033 --> 00:44:59,723
Dan Goler: don't know how to reallocate these funds.

1185
00:45:00,124 --> 00:45:01,768
Dan Goler: There's a function there, there's a

1186
00:45:01,808 --> 00:45:02,630
Dan Goler: responsibility.

1187
00:45:03,752 --> 00:45:10,883
Dan Goler: But again, unless it's coupled with the

1188
00:45:10,903 --> 00:45:11,826
Dan Goler: right kind of spirit and the right kind of

1189
00:45:11,846 --> 00:45:13,069
Dan Goler: focus towards the greater good of all, all

1190
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:14,131
Dan Goler: that power just becomes toxic and it

1191
00:45:14,151 --> 00:45:14,953
Dan Goler: becomes what we see today, which is the

1192
00:45:14,973 --> 00:45:16,557
Dan Goler: greed of corporations and all that stuff.

1193
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:19,906
Dan Goler: But again, I'm telling you that not and you

1194
00:45:19,926 --> 00:45:22,310
Dan Goler: probably also know this, you know, I'm,

1195
00:45:22,350 --> 00:45:23,452
Dan Goler: you've lived and you've been around the

1196
00:45:23,492 --> 00:45:28,825
Dan Goler: block Not everybody are good with knowing

1197
00:45:28,845 --> 00:45:30,314
Dan Goler: how to operate within powerful positions or

1198
00:45:30,354 --> 00:45:30,454
Dan Goler: money.

1199
00:45:30,475 --> 00:45:31,400
Ryan McCormick: I think most of it's corrupted.

1200
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,002
Dan Goler: like the power corrupts things and we were

1201
00:45:33,042 --> 00:45:36,102
Dan Goler: talking about I don't know man, I'm telling

1202
00:45:36,142 --> 00:45:38,309
Dan Goler: you I meet a lot of people talking about

1203
00:45:38,329 --> 00:45:40,302
Dan Goler: billionaires, that well, a lot is a big

1204
00:45:40,322 --> 00:45:41,143
Dan Goler: work because there's not a lot of

1205
00:45:41,163 --> 00:45:42,566
Dan Goler: billionaires, but I met, at this point,

1206
00:45:42,806 --> 00:45:44,649
Dan Goler: three billionaires that I met very

1207
00:45:44,689 --> 00:45:50,860
Dan Goler: personally and they care deeply and they're

1208
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,862
Dan Goler: also putting in the money to do so.

1209
00:45:51,883 --> 00:45:54,588
Dan Goler: So is it true that most people in power are

1210
00:45:54,628 --> 00:45:55,049
Dan Goler: doing that?

1211
00:45:56,371 --> 00:45:58,101
Dan Goler: Probably not, probably not yet, probably.

1212
00:45:58,121 --> 00:46:00,101
Dan Goler: You're right in that regard, yeah, but I

1213
00:46:00,121 --> 00:46:03,366
Dan Goler: would say it's not all lost, like there's a

1214
00:46:03,446 --> 00:46:05,550
Dan Goler: lot of people that care deeply and they

1215
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:08,475
Dan Goler: have the means to bring about the change.

1216
00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:12,481
Dan Goler: And because I see that firsthand, I feel

1217
00:46:12,501 --> 00:46:12,802
Dan Goler: very encouraged.

1218
00:46:12,822 --> 00:46:14,064
Dan Goler: But there's still a lot of work to be done

1219
00:46:14,304 --> 00:46:16,407
Dan Goler: and that's absolutely right.

1220
00:46:16,427 --> 00:46:18,050
Ryan McCormick: I want to make sure I stand corrected.

1221
00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:20,454
Ryan McCormick: I don't think people who have power are bad.

1222
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:26,824
Ryan McCormick: I think people who go for government power

1223
00:46:26,864 --> 00:46:27,747
Ryan McCormick: I think that they tend to attract us.

1224
00:46:27,767 --> 00:46:29,192
Ryan McCormick: You know, that's very I always look at that

1225
00:46:29,232 --> 00:46:29,433
Ryan McCormick: negative.

1226
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:30,838
Ryan McCormick: But people who are self-made, who are

1227
00:46:30,858 --> 00:46:32,224
Ryan McCormick: wealthy, I think that's fantastic.

1228
00:46:32,244 --> 00:46:34,012
Ryan McCormick: They, they can do a lot of good and change

1229
00:46:34,052 --> 00:46:34,414
Ryan McCormick: the world.

1230
00:46:34,675 --> 00:46:36,382
Ryan McCormick: And we're talking about the spirit of earth.

1231
00:46:36,483 --> 00:46:39,291
Ryan McCormick: We want to explore this on our show the

1232
00:46:39,331 --> 00:46:42,040
Ryan McCormick: spirit of gaia and talking about maybe,

1233
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,069
Ryan McCormick: okay, well, maybe gaia manifested human

1234
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:46,805
Ryan McCormick: beings to protect human beings, to protect

1235
00:46:46,825 --> 00:46:46,985
Ryan McCormick: Earth.

1236
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,366
Ryan McCormick: But I wouldn't be surprised if Gaia wiped

1237
00:46:49,386 --> 00:46:51,431
Ryan McCormick: human beings off the planet, if it came up

1238
00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:53,424
Ryan McCormick: with a self-defensive mechanism to take us

1239
00:46:53,625 --> 00:46:57,553
Ryan McCormick: out and maybe get a more evolved species on

1240
00:46:57,593 --> 00:46:57,974
Ryan McCormick: the Earth.

1241
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,886
Ryan McCormick: One of our, somebody I've spoke with who

1242
00:47:00,946 --> 00:47:02,971
Ryan McCormick: had a profound near-death experience, did

1243
00:47:03,052 --> 00:47:05,445
Ryan McCormick: talk about there being a final period of

1244
00:47:05,545 --> 00:47:07,208
Ryan McCormick: time where only a small amount of people

1245
00:47:07,248 --> 00:47:08,211
Ryan McCormick: would be on the earth.

1246
00:47:09,032 --> 00:47:11,104
Ryan McCormick: That would be more in line to the spirit

1247
00:47:11,144 --> 00:47:12,488
Ryan McCormick: and alignment and goals which would not be

1248
00:47:12,508 --> 00:47:13,591
Ryan McCormick: destructive of the planet.

1249
00:47:14,141 --> 00:47:14,923
Ryan McCormick: So who knows about that?

1250
00:47:15,565 --> 00:47:17,912
Ryan McCormick: I want to bring to your attention two

1251
00:47:18,012 --> 00:47:20,820
Ryan McCormick: individuals who I had the pleasure of

1252
00:47:20,860 --> 00:47:24,850
Ryan McCormick: speaking with, meeting that have, I call it,

1253
00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:27,626
Ryan McCormick: two philosophies that kind of run a nice

1254
00:47:27,646 --> 00:47:28,609
Ryan McCormick: little parallel to them.

1255
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:32,225
Ryan McCormick: One of them is David Icke, and David has

1256
00:47:32,265 --> 00:47:34,151
Ryan McCormick: been talking for a long period of time

1257
00:47:34,782 --> 00:47:39,442
Ryan McCormick: about subhuman, negative entities that are

1258
00:47:39,643 --> 00:47:42,281
Ryan McCormick: hijacking perception of this world, that

1259
00:47:42,301 --> 00:47:44,637
Ryan McCormick: they are controlling what humans see, hear,

1260
00:47:44,738 --> 00:47:47,177
Ryan McCormick: smell in order to manipulate their

1261
00:47:47,237 --> 00:47:49,987
Ryan McCormick: perception, because they seek to control

1262
00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:51,131
Ryan McCormick: reality.

1263
00:47:51,460 --> 00:47:53,306
Ryan McCormick: There was a movie made about David's

1264
00:47:53,667 --> 00:47:54,149
Ryan McCormick: philosophy.

1265
00:47:54,169 --> 00:47:54,570
Ryan McCormick: It's called V.

1266
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,342
Ryan McCormick: It was a miniseries in the 80s and people

1267
00:47:56,362 --> 00:47:57,361
Ryan McCormick: thought it was just science fiction, but it

1268
00:47:57,381 --> 00:47:58,975
Ryan McCormick: seemed to be one of those movies that was

1269
00:47:58,995 --> 00:47:59,982
Ryan McCormick: kind of like the Matrix, where it's like

1270
00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:00,986
Ryan McCormick: well, there's a lot of truth to that.

1271
00:48:07,180 --> 00:48:08,146
Ryan McCormick: Then I look at a gentleman, jason Kristoff,

1272
00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:09,011
Ryan McCormick: who has been exceptional when it comes to

1273
00:48:09,031 --> 00:48:09,917
Ryan McCormick: showing how the elites for generations have

1274
00:48:09,937 --> 00:48:11,725
Ryan McCormick: been manipulating reality and that they do

1275
00:48:11,745 --> 00:48:12,789
Ryan McCormick: a lot of spells.

1276
00:48:14,083 --> 00:48:16,103
Ryan McCormick: And when I look up in the sky, as I always

1277
00:48:16,203 --> 00:48:17,649
Ryan McCormick: see that when they're doing the chemtrails

1278
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,682
Ryan McCormick: they're always making the X symbol, so

1279
00:48:19,702 --> 00:48:22,630
Ryan McCormick: they're trying to do something to harm

1280
00:48:22,690 --> 00:48:23,091
Ryan McCormick: humanity.

1281
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,001
Ryan McCormick: Now I'm bringing this to your attention

1282
00:48:25,021 --> 00:48:28,744
Ryan McCormick: because I do am curious to know is, when

1283
00:48:28,784 --> 00:48:31,527
Ryan McCormick: you have your heightened perception, do you

1284
00:48:31,547 --> 00:48:45,064
Ryan McCormick: see any kind of nefarious beings that are

1285
00:48:45,125 --> 00:48:46,637
Ryan McCormick: not from this place or from an alternative

1286
00:48:46,658 --> 00:48:49,831
Ryan McCormick: dimension that are trying to impose their

1287
00:48:49,932 --> 00:48:52,544
Ryan McCormick: will upon collective humanity and kind of

1288
00:48:52,725 --> 00:48:54,641
Ryan McCormick: steer collective humanity to a place where

1289
00:48:54,661 --> 00:48:56,722
Ryan McCormick: it would not have gone had there not been

1290
00:48:56,743 --> 00:48:57,584
Ryan McCormick: this type of interference.

1291
00:49:00,070 --> 00:49:00,271
Dan Goler: Yes.

1292
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:01,333
Ryan McCormick: Okay.

1293
00:49:03,741 --> 00:49:04,582
Dan Goler: So, but that's just.

1294
00:49:05,042 --> 00:49:11,248
Dan Goler: You know there's a, there's a lot of

1295
00:49:11,268 --> 00:49:13,329
Dan Goler: distinct, that it's not that simple, right?

1296
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:14,791
Dan Goler: So there's a lot of distinctions there.

1297
00:49:15,411 --> 00:49:19,114
Dan Goler: First, one is exerting your own will is

1298
00:49:19,335 --> 00:49:21,577
Dan Goler: literally what every single thing in

1299
00:49:21,637 --> 00:49:22,537
Dan Goler: existence is doing.

1300
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:28,642
Dan Goler: What every single thing in existence is

1301
00:49:28,682 --> 00:49:29,484
Dan Goler: doing you, me, everything, right.

1302
00:49:29,545 --> 00:49:30,487
Dan Goler: It's exerting your will against somebody's

1303
00:49:30,507 --> 00:49:32,492
Dan Goler: will, uh, for your own personal benefit or

1304
00:49:32,612 --> 00:49:37,726
Dan Goler: worse, for the sake of causing suffering in

1305
00:49:37,806 --> 00:49:39,671
Dan Goler: somebody for your own personal enjoyment.

1306
00:49:39,731 --> 00:49:41,100
Dan Goler: I would say that that's kind of like the

1307
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:41,982
Dan Goler: ultimate evil, right?

1308
00:49:42,022 --> 00:49:44,668
Dan Goler: You just do that because you derive some

1309
00:49:44,788 --> 00:49:47,674
Dan Goler: kind of pleasure from somebody else's pain.

1310
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,347
Dan Goler: That's already a different kind of story.

1311
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,367
Dan Goler: All of these things, they're archetypical

1312
00:49:53,808 --> 00:49:55,632
Dan Goler: energies emanating from the balance of

1313
00:49:55,692 --> 00:49:58,524
Dan Goler: existence, the yin and the yang right, the

1314
00:49:58,564 --> 00:49:59,226
Dan Goler: dark and the light.

1315
00:49:59,787 --> 00:50:00,729
Dan Goler: They're very fundamental.

1316
00:50:01,431 --> 00:50:01,952
Dan Goler: Here's the thing.

1317
00:50:04,181 --> 00:50:05,705
Dan Goler: It's not even that.

1318
00:50:06,567 --> 00:50:08,211
Dan Goler: It's kind of funny because they're

1319
00:50:08,291 --> 00:50:08,953
Dan Goler: uneradicable.

1320
00:50:09,781 --> 00:50:13,264
Dan Goler: It's just how it is right, so it's just

1321
00:50:13,465 --> 00:50:17,042
Dan Goler: what is contained within reality, and all

1322
00:50:17,062 --> 00:50:19,849
Dan Goler: of them have a function that is necessary

1323
00:50:19,909 --> 00:50:22,094
Dan Goler: to keep checks and balances in everything.

1324
00:50:23,041 --> 00:50:25,488
Dan Goler: It is very difficult to accept that from

1325
00:50:25,529 --> 00:50:27,303
Dan Goler: the position that we sit, because our

1326
00:50:27,403 --> 00:50:30,585
Dan Goler: perceptions of good and evil they're pretty

1327
00:50:30,625 --> 00:50:34,487
Dan Goler: parochial and they have to do with how we

1328
00:50:34,568 --> 00:50:37,234
Dan Goler: see intention.

1329
00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:40,844
Dan Goler: But it has a lot to do with us not seeing

1330
00:50:41,405 --> 00:50:43,792
Dan Goler: the balance of these forces as it can be

1331
00:50:44,922 --> 00:50:48,827
Dan Goler: and the very difficult task of recognizing

1332
00:50:48,927 --> 00:50:53,354
Dan Goler: these dark elements in yourself, the Carl

1333
00:50:53,374 --> 00:50:55,581
Dan Goler: Jung's the Shadow right, and the importance

1334
00:50:55,621 --> 00:50:56,583
Dan Goler: of the integration of that.

1335
00:50:56,643 --> 00:50:59,768
Dan Goler: Because if you're looking at it from the

1336
00:50:59,828 --> 00:51:01,931
Dan Goler: perspective of all of reality and not just

1337
00:51:01,951 --> 00:51:04,075
Dan Goler: from the perspective of one tiny portion of

1338
00:51:04,115 --> 00:51:05,871
Dan Goler: reality, from the perspective of one

1339
00:51:05,912 --> 00:51:07,785
Dan Goler: portion of reality, it's very easy to think

1340
00:51:07,805 --> 00:51:10,021
Dan Goler: of it in terms of like a leaf blower, like

1341
00:51:10,041 --> 00:51:11,265
Dan Goler: well, there's too many leaves here, let's

1342
00:51:11,326 --> 00:51:12,169
Dan Goler: blow them away somewhere.

1343
00:51:13,101 --> 00:51:14,788
Dan Goler: But the leaf are not being destroyed,

1344
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,226
Dan Goler: they're just going somewhere, right.

1345
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,225
Dan Goler: So now they're somewhere else.

1346
00:51:19,585 --> 00:51:22,881
Dan Goler: So if you're unaware of that, then it's one

1347
00:51:22,901 --> 00:51:23,021
Dan Goler: thing.

1348
00:51:23,041 --> 00:51:23,842
Dan Goler: If you're unaware of that, then it's one

1349
00:51:23,862 --> 00:51:23,962
Dan Goler: thing.

1350
00:51:23,982 --> 00:51:26,385
Dan Goler: But if you are becoming aware of that, now

1351
00:51:26,825 --> 00:51:32,191
Dan Goler: there's a question Is it evil of you to

1352
00:51:32,311 --> 00:51:35,094
Dan Goler: know that that other thing you call evil or

1353
00:51:35,355 --> 00:51:50,761
Dan Goler: elements of suffering, if you know for a

1354
00:51:50,781 --> 00:51:52,285
Dan Goler: fact that all you're doing by blowing them

1355
00:51:52,325 --> 00:51:53,147
Dan Goler: away is that now you imposed that evil on

1356
00:51:53,167 --> 00:51:54,110
Dan Goler: some other unfortunate place that you have

1357
00:51:54,130 --> 00:51:55,393
Dan Goler: no, that you have no concern about, but it

1358
00:51:55,413 --> 00:51:56,035
Dan Goler: you definitely did that, right?

1359
00:51:56,055 --> 00:51:56,797
Dan Goler: So is it evil of you to do that?

1360
00:51:56,817 --> 00:51:57,679
Dan Goler: I would say yes, right, because, with every

1361
00:51:57,699 --> 00:51:58,942
Dan Goler: knowledge, so imagine from the perspective

1362
00:51:59,002 --> 00:52:01,226
Dan Goler: of the all of the, the thing that can

1363
00:52:01,266 --> 00:52:03,271
Dan Goler: perceive most things in all of existence,

1364
00:52:03,732 --> 00:52:04,814
Dan Goler: god, whatever you want to call it.

1365
00:52:06,042 --> 00:52:10,872
Dan Goler: The question becomes under the fact that

1366
00:52:10,953 --> 00:52:12,982
Dan Goler: these things are uneradicable and they're

1367
00:52:13,002 --> 00:52:14,528
Dan Goler: just part of reality and there's nothing

1368
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:15,101
Dan Goler: you can't.

1369
00:52:16,124 --> 00:52:18,210
Dan Goler: All you can do is try and keep leaf blow

1370
00:52:18,250 --> 00:52:20,666
Dan Goler: forever, but they don't decompose in

1371
00:52:20,706 --> 00:52:22,763
Dan Goler: reality, like leaves do, they just stay and

1372
00:52:22,783 --> 00:52:24,469
Dan Goler: they just go somewhere else, right?

1373
00:52:34,141 --> 00:52:35,085
Dan Goler: So now what is the most ethical decision

1374
00:52:35,105 --> 00:52:35,467
Dan Goler: for everything?

1375
00:52:35,487 --> 00:52:36,452
Dan Goler: Because you can arrange it in all kinds of

1376
00:52:36,472 --> 00:52:36,552
Dan Goler: ways.

1377
00:52:36,572 --> 00:52:37,376
Dan Goler: You can say well, if you're going to push

1378
00:52:37,396 --> 00:52:38,200
Dan Goler: everything to one half, one side is only

1379
00:52:38,461 --> 00:52:40,045
Dan Goler: always going to be in bliss and the other

1380
00:52:40,065 --> 00:52:41,509
Dan Goler: side is going to be in eternal suffering.

1381
00:52:41,570 --> 00:52:42,091
Dan Goler: Is that fair?

1382
00:52:42,561 --> 00:52:43,283
Dan Goler: Doesn't sound fair.

1383
00:52:43,523 --> 00:52:44,325
Dan Goler: How about we alternate?

1384
00:52:44,366 --> 00:52:46,531
Dan Goler: How about we go like this half suffers for

1385
00:52:46,571 --> 00:52:49,386
Dan Goler: a long time, this half has pleasure for a

1386
00:52:49,406 --> 00:52:49,667
Dan Goler: long time?

1387
00:52:49,687 --> 00:52:50,209
Dan Goler: Then we swap.

1388
00:52:50,370 --> 00:52:50,791
Dan Goler: How about that?

1389
00:52:51,253 --> 00:52:52,985
Dan Goler: Okay, a little better, but still like

1390
00:52:53,025 --> 00:52:54,843
Dan Goler: sounds unfair, right, sounds like there's a

1391
00:52:54,883 --> 00:52:56,268
Dan Goler: better way, okay.

1392
00:52:57,060 --> 00:53:00,466
Dan Goler: So I think the most logical thing you would

1393
00:53:00,506 --> 00:53:04,492
Dan Goler: say is like is there a way to integrate

1394
00:53:04,552 --> 00:53:07,302
Dan Goler: both of them in such a way that they're

1395
00:53:07,343 --> 00:53:09,007
Dan Goler: both perfectly balancing each other?

1396
00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:12,958
Dan Goler: So the end state of all things is

1397
00:53:13,078 --> 00:53:16,525
Dan Goler: neutrality versus suffering of pleasure,

1398
00:53:18,368 --> 00:53:20,592
Dan Goler: and this is where the eastern tradition

1399
00:53:20,672 --> 00:53:22,801
Dan Goler: comes into play, and that's essentially

1400
00:53:22,821 --> 00:53:25,205
Dan Goler: what the buddha's recognition was, which is

1401
00:53:25,225 --> 00:53:28,350
Dan Goler: that as long as you're playing I call it

1402
00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:30,934
Dan Goler: the vector game, but he called it the form

1403
00:53:30,974 --> 00:53:32,806
Dan Goler: game, as long as you're playing any kind of

1404
00:53:32,846 --> 00:53:33,590
Dan Goler: form game at all.

1405
00:53:34,213 --> 00:53:35,519
Dan Goler: It doesn't matter how blissful it is, no

1406
00:53:35,539 --> 00:53:38,625
Dan Goler: matter how angelic or heavenly like it

1407
00:53:38,745 --> 00:53:39,125
Dan Goler: feels.

1408
00:53:39,786 --> 00:53:41,529
Dan Goler: You are within the karmic cycle.

1409
00:53:41,549 --> 00:53:42,711
Dan Goler: You are within the karmic cycle.

1410
00:53:42,731 --> 00:53:44,974
Dan Goler: You are within the cycle that always

1411
00:53:45,015 --> 00:53:47,986
Dan Goler: circulates between these infinite cycles of

1412
00:53:48,066 --> 00:53:51,113
Dan Goler: suffering and pleasure and bliss, always.

1413
00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:53,666
Dan Goler: So even if you are the highest realms,

1414
00:53:53,947 --> 00:53:56,242
Dan Goler: which according to Buddhism not necessarily

1415
00:53:56,262 --> 00:53:57,386
Dan Goler: according to the Buddha, but according to

1416
00:53:57,426 --> 00:54:01,024
Dan Goler: Buddhism exists, and let's say, you are the

1417
00:54:01,084 --> 00:54:03,690
Dan Goler: highest possible being in the highest

1418
00:54:03,771 --> 00:54:07,526
Dan Goler: possible realms and you live there for five

1419
00:54:07,666 --> 00:54:11,193
Dan Goler: kachillion years and in absolute bliss,

1420
00:54:11,941 --> 00:54:13,267
Dan Goler: you're still within the karmic cycle.

1421
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:16,126
Dan Goler: So after all of that time, you can still

1422
00:54:16,166 --> 00:54:17,430
Dan Goler: fall in the lowest of hills.

1423
00:54:19,022 --> 00:54:20,708
Dan Goler: So what is the solution?

1424
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:23,921
Dan Goler: Well, you want to find equanimity, and as

1425
00:54:24,182 --> 00:54:27,270
Dan Goler: many beings in the universe can aim towards

1426
00:54:27,310 --> 00:54:30,371
Dan Goler: that together, you will have a situation

1427
00:54:30,431 --> 00:54:32,181
Dan Goler: where a lot of this will be nullified and

1428
00:54:32,221 --> 00:54:33,365
Dan Goler: basically, everything will achieve

1429
00:54:33,405 --> 00:54:33,927
Dan Goler: equilibrium.

1430
00:54:33,967 --> 00:54:34,729
Dan Goler: That is the attempt.

1431
00:54:35,741 --> 00:54:38,354
Dan Goler: In that sense, considering the fact that

1432
00:54:38,374 --> 00:54:39,902
Dan Goler: we're not these perfect beings with the

1433
00:54:39,982 --> 00:54:42,981
Dan Goler: ultimate knowledge and know all of that, I

1434
00:54:43,021 --> 00:54:46,390
Dan Goler: think that, even so, we still want to try

1435
00:54:46,450 --> 00:54:50,769
Dan Goler: our best to find the version in us that

1436
00:54:50,990 --> 00:54:53,863
Dan Goler: tries to find that equilibrium, and one of

1437
00:54:53,903 --> 00:54:56,041
Dan Goler: these ways that I think that Carl Jung very

1438
00:54:56,081 --> 00:54:58,142
Dan Goler: correctly figured out, which is that the

1439
00:54:58,202 --> 00:55:00,309
Dan Goler: integration of the shadow in yourself.

1440
00:55:00,369 --> 00:55:02,981
Dan Goler: First, because if you can do that, you can

1441
00:55:03,021 --> 00:55:05,410
Dan Goler: kind of help other things do the same.

1442
00:55:06,341 --> 00:55:08,507
Dan Goler: And the payoff on that, if you want to look

1443
00:55:08,527 --> 00:55:10,432
Dan Goler: at it from the utilitarian perspective, is

1444
00:55:10,472 --> 00:55:14,908
Dan Goler: that the shadow also contains a lot of very,

1445
00:55:15,089 --> 00:55:19,378
Dan Goler: very unique uh perturbations that don't

1446
00:55:19,518 --> 00:55:21,723
Dan Goler: usually exist in the longer arc ones, which

1447
00:55:21,803 --> 00:55:25,071
Dan Goler: are the more the the light ones right, and

1448
00:55:25,111 --> 00:55:26,501
Dan Goler: the benefit of that is that there's a lot

1449
00:55:26,541 --> 00:55:28,225
Dan Goler: of creative force, there's enormous

1450
00:55:28,266 --> 00:55:31,500
Dan Goler: creative force in every single point of

1451
00:55:31,541 --> 00:55:32,624
Dan Goler: that darker element.

1452
00:55:33,186 --> 00:55:35,534
Dan Goler: So the thing you gain if you manage to do

1453
00:55:35,594 --> 00:55:37,882
Dan Goler: that is incredible creative force that you

1454
00:55:37,902 --> 00:55:39,305
Dan Goler: wouldn't necessarily have if you would just

1455
00:55:39,345 --> 00:55:41,961
Dan Goler: be focusing on the light, and that that

1456
00:55:42,081 --> 00:55:43,043
Dan Goler: that will be the integration.

1457
00:55:43,083 --> 00:55:45,387
Dan Goler: A good example of that is well, it's not

1458
00:55:45,428 --> 00:55:46,730
Dan Goler: really an example, it's like a thought

1459
00:55:47,291 --> 00:55:47,752
Dan Goler: experiment.

1460
00:55:47,792 --> 00:55:50,164
Dan Goler: If you have the kid in the class that is

1461
00:55:50,966 --> 00:55:54,235
Dan Goler: very uh in a lot of pain because of

1462
00:55:54,355 --> 00:55:56,280
Dan Goler: whatever reason, he's abused or whatever,

1463
00:55:57,142 --> 00:56:00,049
Dan Goler: and the rest of the class essentially

1464
00:56:01,493 --> 00:56:03,398
Dan Goler: pushes him away even more because they

1465
00:56:03,418 --> 00:56:05,125
Dan Goler: don't want anything to do in the immediate

1466
00:56:05,326 --> 00:56:07,083
Dan Goler: moment of like with this kind of you know,

1467
00:56:07,363 --> 00:56:09,950
Dan Goler: seeming darkness, because he, maybe he

1468
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:12,023
Dan Goler: dresses like a goth and maybe he paints his

1469
00:56:12,083 --> 00:56:13,229
Dan Goler: nails black and whatever it is.

1470
00:56:13,691 --> 00:56:15,539
Dan Goler: And then the immediate, like propulsion of

1471
00:56:15,579 --> 00:56:17,625
Dan Goler: that, you push him even further away, you

1472
00:56:17,745 --> 00:56:20,231
Dan Goler: separate him even more, you're pushing him

1473
00:56:20,291 --> 00:56:22,081
Dan Goler: to the brink of destruction and he might

1474
00:56:22,121 --> 00:56:26,507
Dan Goler: show up with an ak-47, right Versus you.

1475
00:56:26,787 --> 00:56:30,131
Dan Goler: If the class is enlightened enough, they

1476
00:56:30,151 --> 00:56:32,514
Dan Goler: can embrace him and give him the love that

1477
00:56:32,534 --> 00:56:35,722
Dan Goler: he never got at home, right, and then that

1478
00:56:35,922 --> 00:56:40,849
Dan Goler: action slowly will reconform his separative

1479
00:56:41,410 --> 00:56:43,613
Dan Goler: element into a more integrated one where

1480
00:56:43,753 --> 00:56:44,695
Dan Goler: he's part of the class.

1481
00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:46,763
Dan Goler: Now the class celebrates his differences,

1482
00:56:47,204 --> 00:56:49,409
Dan Goler: the class celebrates his darkness, the

1483
00:56:49,429 --> 00:56:51,341
Dan Goler: class celebrates all of the things that

1484
00:56:51,682 --> 00:56:54,028
Dan Goler: maybe he's an incredible artist right and

1485
00:56:54,108 --> 00:56:56,402
Dan Goler: now, when he feels embraced and he wants to

1486
00:56:56,443 --> 00:56:58,712
Dan Goler: be a part of that class, now he will bring

1487
00:56:58,974 --> 00:57:00,580
Dan Goler: all his creative tools into the picture and

1488
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,127
Dan Goler: say, oh my God, and he paints the class

1489
00:57:03,187 --> 00:57:05,161
Dan Goler: every day in incredible ways and everybody

1490
00:57:05,222 --> 00:57:07,451
Dan Goler: is so happy because it's amazing and nobody

1491
00:57:07,471 --> 00:57:08,174
Dan Goler: could paint like that.

1492
00:57:08,757 --> 00:57:11,404
Dan Goler: So this would be one thought experiment of

1493
00:57:11,465 --> 00:57:12,928
Dan Goler: how that works in the larger scale.

1494
00:57:13,249 --> 00:57:16,563
Dan Goler: And we all have both of those elements and

1495
00:57:17,124 --> 00:57:20,190
Dan Goler: we all collectively have individuals that

1496
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:21,692
Dan Goler: have more of that and less of that.

1497
00:57:22,133 --> 00:57:23,608
Dan Goler: So it's a fractal, it's in us, it's in our

1498
00:57:23,629 --> 00:57:24,759
Dan Goler: city, it's's a fractal, it's in us, it's in

1499
00:57:24,779 --> 00:57:27,205
Dan Goler: a in our city, it's in our village, it's in

1500
00:57:27,245 --> 00:57:29,330
Dan Goler: the world, it's in the universe, it's

1501
00:57:29,431 --> 00:57:29,811
Dan Goler: everywhere.

1502
00:57:29,852 --> 00:57:32,145
Dan Goler: So it has to if we want to exert change.

1503
00:57:32,185 --> 00:57:33,789
Dan Goler: On these bigger things, like, for example,

1504
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:36,022
Dan Goler: when I, when I hear you say about ike and

1505
00:57:36,042 --> 00:57:37,666
Dan Goler: people like that, it's like, well, be

1506
00:57:37,707 --> 00:57:38,128
Dan Goler: careful.

1507
00:57:38,408 --> 00:57:39,932
Dan Goler: Just so you know, they're spraying you with

1508
00:57:39,992 --> 00:57:44,612
Dan Goler: all this this thing and I go, okay, now

1509
00:57:44,652 --> 00:57:44,812
Dan Goler: what?

1510
00:57:46,156 --> 00:57:46,276
Dan Goler: So?

1511
00:57:46,316 --> 00:57:47,359
Dan Goler: Now, every time I'm going to be going

1512
00:57:47,379 --> 00:57:49,244
Dan Goler: around, there's going to be like a concern

1513
00:57:49,264 --> 00:57:51,089
Dan Goler: in me they're doing this, but I can't do

1514
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:51,631
Dan Goler: anything about it.

1515
00:57:52,962 --> 00:57:56,168
Dan Goler: So all it does is you're fear-mongering.

1516
00:57:56,970 --> 00:57:58,673
Dan Goler: You're essentially telling me be careful of

1517
00:57:58,773 --> 00:58:00,083
Dan Goler: all these crazy things I think.

1518
00:58:00,103 --> 00:58:01,627
Ryan McCormick: I think it's to be aware about it, because

1519
00:58:01,768 --> 00:58:04,627
Ryan McCormick: most people don't see it and what is the

1520
00:58:04,667 --> 00:58:06,253
Ryan McCormick: point of being aware of it if you can't do

1521
00:58:06,293 --> 00:58:06,755
Ryan McCormick: anything about?

1522
00:58:06,775 --> 00:58:07,377
Ryan McCormick: it.

1523
00:58:07,417 --> 00:58:09,625
Ryan McCormick: You can do something about it.

1524
00:58:09,645 --> 00:58:11,992
Ryan McCormick: I think you can if you know that they are

1525
00:58:12,032 --> 00:58:13,497
Ryan McCormick: spraying things in the sky.

1526
00:58:13,637 --> 00:58:15,683
Ryan McCormick: I think it actually inspires a positive

1527
00:58:15,763 --> 00:58:17,527
Ryan McCormick: change to be hyper vigilant and getting

1528
00:58:17,567 --> 00:58:20,861
Ryan McCormick: cilantro in your body, to be more vigilant

1529
00:58:20,881 --> 00:58:22,244
Ryan McCormick: about your health, to be taking um

1530
00:58:23,206 --> 00:58:27,314
Ryan McCormick: antioxidants garlic, cinnamon, oregano.

1531
00:58:27,841 --> 00:58:29,508
Ryan McCormick: Seeing something like that, knowing that

1532
00:58:29,568 --> 00:58:31,416
Ryan McCormick: you are being attacked, knowing that

1533
00:58:31,537 --> 00:58:33,966
Ryan McCormick: there's a collective group of people that

1534
00:58:34,026 --> 00:58:36,315
Ryan McCormick: are trying to end your life, I think that

1535
00:58:36,395 --> 00:58:38,401
Ryan McCormick: inspires hypervigilance, or at least it has

1536
00:58:38,441 --> 00:58:38,822
Ryan McCormick: with me.

1537
00:58:39,543 --> 00:58:42,048
Ryan McCormick: Ever since I realized that these people

1538
00:58:42,068 --> 00:58:44,232
Ryan McCormick: were trying to kill me, I was like well, I

1539
00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:47,245
Ryan McCormick: don't want to be killed and, out of spite,

1540
00:58:47,385 --> 00:58:48,289
Ryan McCormick: I'm going to live.

1541
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:51,004
Ryan McCormick: So I am going all natural and I'm cutting

1542
00:58:51,024 --> 00:58:51,385
Ryan McCormick: stuff out.

1543
00:58:55,389 --> 00:58:57,114
Ryan McCormick: So I tell people they're spraying you in

1544
00:58:57,134 --> 00:58:58,458
Ryan McCormick: the sky, they're trying to kill you.

1545
00:58:58,558 --> 00:58:59,040
Ryan McCormick: The hounds are great.

1546
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,904
Ryan McCormick: Now try to take the negative and turn it

1547
00:59:00,924 --> 00:59:04,090
Ryan McCormick: into a positive by cilantro, eating healthy

1548
00:59:04,210 --> 00:59:05,934
Ryan McCormick: and don't give them the benefit of the

1549
00:59:05,974 --> 00:59:06,134
Ryan McCormick: doubt.

1550
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,342
Ryan McCormick: Don't drop like flies, don't let them get

1551
00:59:08,382 --> 00:59:08,863
Ryan McCormick: you sick.

1552
00:59:08,963 --> 00:59:10,547
Ryan McCormick: So you have to sign up for the

1553
00:59:10,587 --> 00:59:12,952
Ryan McCormick: pharmaceutical industrial complex and then

1554
00:59:13,012 --> 00:59:15,443
Ryan McCormick: go to the grocery store and, while you're

1555
00:59:15,463 --> 00:59:16,886
Ryan McCormick: picking up your medicine, go pick up some

1556
00:59:16,926 --> 00:59:18,290
Ryan McCormick: Cheetos that have got yellow dye number

1557
00:59:18,330 --> 00:59:19,493
Ryan McCormick: five in it or something like that.

1558
00:59:20,883 --> 00:59:23,492
Dan Goler: So, okay, that's a great example, that is a

1559
00:59:23,532 --> 00:59:24,100
Dan Goler: really good example.

1560
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:25,083
Dan Goler: So, okay, that's a great, that's a great

1561
00:59:25,103 --> 00:59:25,284
Dan Goler: example.

1562
00:59:25,745 --> 00:59:25,785
Dan Goler: I.

1563
00:59:25,805 --> 00:59:26,146
Dan Goler: I like that's.

1564
00:59:26,167 --> 00:59:26,748
Dan Goler: That is a really good example.

1565
00:59:26,769 --> 00:59:27,712
Dan Goler: In your case, I like the fact that it

1566
00:59:27,732 --> 00:59:29,798
Dan Goler: called you into action, into cutting a lot

1567
00:59:29,838 --> 00:59:31,303
Dan Goler: of these things that you know the

1568
00:59:31,383 --> 00:59:33,088
Dan Goler: pharmaceutical might be confused about, and

1569
00:59:33,108 --> 00:59:34,672
Dan Goler: you took responsibility and you said no,

1570
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:35,564
Dan Goler: I'm going to do it myself.

1571
00:59:35,604 --> 00:59:37,172
Dan Goler: I'm going to grow a lot of my stuff, I'm

1572
00:59:37,192 --> 00:59:39,040
Dan Goler: going to do research and understand what is

1573
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,082
Dan Goler: actually good for my body.

1574
00:59:40,563 --> 00:59:42,708
Dan Goler: Incredible, would you agree with me that

1575
00:59:42,768 --> 00:59:45,514
Dan Goler: most people would not have the either the

1576
00:59:46,241 --> 00:59:48,927
Dan Goler: or just, in general, the drive to take

1577
00:59:48,967 --> 00:59:50,871
Dan Goler: these actions and all that it's going to do

1578
00:59:50,911 --> 00:59:52,034
Dan Goler: for most people?

1579
00:59:53,101 --> 00:59:55,944
Dan Goler: It will simply make them bitter about

1580
00:59:55,984 --> 00:59:58,586
Dan Goler: whatever is possible and, in fact, by doing

1581
00:59:58,646 --> 01:00:00,548
Dan Goler: so, will lower their life.

1582
01:00:01,369 --> 01:00:06,574
Dan Goler: Uh, uh yes you know what I mean.

1583
01:00:06,614 --> 01:00:09,477
Dan Goler: Yeah, it will lower how well they can live.

1584
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,263
Dan Goler: So will I will.

1585
01:00:11,303 --> 01:00:14,168
Dan Goler: I agree with you that, uh, ultimately, we

1586
01:00:14,228 --> 01:00:17,374
Dan Goler: want to be aware of all the ways in which,

1587
01:00:17,474 --> 01:00:21,770
Dan Goler: the the more the bigger entities are either

1588
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:24,316
Dan Goler: misbehaving or inadvertently doing things

1589
01:00:24,336 --> 01:00:25,098
Dan Goler: that are bad for us.

1590
01:00:25,238 --> 01:00:26,862
Dan Goler: Yeah, of course, who would disagree with

1591
01:00:26,882 --> 01:00:26,982
Dan Goler: that?

1592
01:00:27,584 --> 01:00:29,348
Dan Goler: But in the end, again, the balance thing

1593
01:00:29,369 --> 01:00:29,589
Dan Goler: right.

1594
01:00:29,609 --> 01:00:32,483
Dan Goler: So you got to remember that while we're

1595
01:00:32,543 --> 01:00:36,469
Dan Goler: remedying all of that, then the, the

1596
01:00:37,671 --> 01:00:40,075
Dan Goler: reducing the volume on the demonization of

1597
01:00:40,135 --> 01:00:42,923
Dan Goler: things is super important, and I feel, feel,

1598
01:00:42,963 --> 01:00:45,527
Dan Goler: I personally feel it sounds like you derive

1599
01:00:45,567 --> 01:00:46,648
Dan Goler: a lot of meaning from his work.

1600
01:00:46,668 --> 01:00:48,371
Dan Goler: So I don't want to, you know, but it sounds

1601
01:00:48,411 --> 01:00:50,674
Dan Goler: to me like, at least specifically with Ike,

1602
01:00:50,754 --> 01:00:52,877
Dan Goler: because of you know, I know you can say

1603
01:00:52,897 --> 01:00:53,598
Dan Goler: whatever you want.

1604
01:00:53,638 --> 01:00:54,359
Ryan McCormick: You can say whatever you want.

1605
01:00:54,461 --> 01:00:55,459
Ryan McCormick: I'm open to all different things.

1606
01:00:55,581 --> 01:00:55,965
Ryan McCormick: It's just that.

1607
01:00:56,066 --> 01:00:58,063
Dan Goler: I don't feel that he's operating out of a

1608
01:00:58,124 --> 01:00:58,867
Dan Goler: selfless place.

1609
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,924
Dan Goler: Okay, I feel that he likes the fact that

1610
01:01:05,944 --> 01:01:06,686
Dan Goler: he's sounding the alarms, he likes the

1611
01:01:06,706 --> 01:01:07,549
Dan Goler: feeling of it, but I don't think he put a

1612
01:01:07,570 --> 01:01:08,633
Dan Goler: lot of thought into what it would actually

1613
01:01:08,654 --> 01:01:09,517
Dan Goler: do in the aggregate.

1614
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,950
Dan Goler: So that to me is not a positive player.

1615
01:01:13,460 --> 01:01:16,082
Dan Goler: So now, even there, right, so like that's

1616
01:01:16,102 --> 01:01:17,747
Dan Goler: an individual that I can criticize his

1617
01:01:17,787 --> 01:01:19,543
Dan Goler: behavior to a certain extent, I can give my

1618
01:01:19,623 --> 01:01:20,326
Dan Goler: reasons for it.

1619
01:01:20,961 --> 01:01:23,795
Dan Goler: If I meet him as a person and we're sitting

1620
01:01:23,815 --> 01:01:25,862
Dan Goler: and we're having tea or whatever, I will

1621
01:01:25,902 --> 01:01:28,689
Dan Goler: not be like hiding some kind of a negative

1622
01:01:28,709 --> 01:01:30,013
Dan Goler: emotion towards him as a person.

1623
01:01:30,581 --> 01:01:31,805
Dan Goler: I don't have a problem with telling him

1624
01:01:31,825 --> 01:01:33,750
Dan Goler: like, hey, I think you can do better there

1625
01:01:33,850 --> 01:01:36,424
Dan Goler: or there, but in the moment the attempt is

1626
01:01:36,484 --> 01:01:38,890
Dan Goler: always to still love him and still see him

1627
01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:41,023
Dan Goler: as a human, because I'm sure everybody are

1628
01:01:41,204 --> 01:01:41,867
Dan Goler: doing their best.

1629
01:01:42,048 --> 01:01:45,161
Dan Goler: Right, and one of the balancing points for

1630
01:01:46,024 --> 01:01:49,072
Dan Goler: the whole fear of institutions in general,

1631
01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:53,250
Dan Goler: notice that if right now, god forbid.

1632
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,319
Dan Goler: But if right now something serious happens,

1633
01:01:56,163 --> 01:01:58,310
Dan Goler: and forget about right now treatments,

1634
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,541
Dan Goler: because, yes, you and I would agree that

1635
01:02:00,561 --> 01:02:02,988
Dan Goler: there's a lot of wrongdoing there because

1636
01:02:03,028 --> 01:02:04,211
Dan Goler: of greed, we agree there.

1637
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,666
Dan Goler: But in the immediate moment also, these

1638
01:02:07,707 --> 01:02:10,454
Dan Goler: institutions develop ways and methods to

1639
01:02:11,297 --> 01:02:13,063
Dan Goler: fix certain things quickly that we could

1640
01:02:13,103 --> 01:02:14,932
Dan Goler: never do before and people just died from

1641
01:02:14,952 --> 01:02:15,535
Dan Goler: them, right?

1642
01:02:15,837 --> 01:02:17,262
Dan Goler: So if there's some kind of a crazy car

1643
01:02:17,302 --> 01:02:18,726
Dan Goler: accident and something, just, you've been

1644
01:02:18,766 --> 01:02:20,311
Dan Goler: impaled or something again, god forbid.

1645
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,715
Dan Goler: But if that happens, you want to be rushed

1646
01:02:23,735 --> 01:02:25,983
Dan Goler: to a western hospital immediately.

1647
01:02:26,224 --> 01:02:27,827
Dan Goler: Right, because they know certain things

1648
01:02:27,847 --> 01:02:29,752
Dan Goler: that we didn't know before and they can

1649
01:02:29,812 --> 01:02:30,721
Dan Goler: save you potentially.

1650
01:02:31,202 --> 01:02:34,069
Dan Goler: And that needs to also be included in the

1651
01:02:34,129 --> 01:02:36,033
Dan Goler: conversation about what is good and what is

1652
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:39,286
Dan Goler: bad, because I would claim these are all

1653
01:02:39,426 --> 01:02:43,633
Dan Goler: best attempts that so far fell short, but

1654
01:02:44,234 --> 01:02:45,162
Dan Goler: we are eventually.

1655
01:02:45,222 --> 01:02:46,266
Dan Goler: We do figure things out.

1656
01:02:46,527 --> 01:02:48,583
Dan Goler: Eventually, we do bring about a change that

1657
01:02:48,643 --> 01:02:51,409
Dan Goler: can be stable over time, and we haven't

1658
01:02:51,429 --> 01:02:53,093
Dan Goler: achieved it in many ways, but we have

1659
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:53,501
Dan Goler: achieved it.

1660
01:02:53,541 --> 01:02:54,985
Dan Goler: Sometimes there are certain things that we

1661
01:02:55,005 --> 01:02:56,389
Dan Goler: just eradicated as dangers.

1662
01:02:56,469 --> 01:03:02,007
Dan Goler: Right, and seeing us as part of nature

1663
01:03:02,648 --> 01:03:04,350
Dan Goler: versus some kind of a separate entity from

1664
01:03:04,391 --> 01:03:07,901
Dan Goler: nature is, I think, a helpful, both guiding

1665
01:03:07,961 --> 01:03:11,067
Dan Goler: principle and a more accurate principle,

1666
01:03:11,128 --> 01:03:13,473
Dan Goler: because it's it has to be right.

1667
01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:15,083
Dan Goler: You're part of whatever is going on, you're

1668
01:03:15,103 --> 01:03:15,906
Dan Goler: part of the operation.

1669
01:03:16,307 --> 01:03:20,219
Dan Goler: Are, um, I don't know when, when, when the

1670
01:03:20,259 --> 01:03:21,422
Dan Goler: solar systems are formed?

1671
01:03:22,384 --> 01:03:25,672
Dan Goler: Are different planets evil or colliding

1672
01:03:25,712 --> 01:03:28,244
Dan Goler: with one another until everything settles.

1673
01:03:29,065 --> 01:03:32,371
Dan Goler: No, now we don't think of them as agents

1674
01:03:32,592 --> 01:03:34,340
Dan Goler: because like well it's, it's out of their

1675
01:03:34,381 --> 01:03:34,601
Dan Goler: hands.

1676
01:03:34,621 --> 01:03:35,684
Dan Goler: They're just kind of flying around

1677
01:03:35,704 --> 01:03:36,888
Dan Goler: according to the laws of physics.

1678
01:03:37,490 --> 01:03:39,025
Dan Goler: But I'm not so sure it's that different for

1679
01:03:39,105 --> 01:03:39,186
Dan Goler: us.

1680
01:03:39,668 --> 01:03:41,256
Dan Goler: I think we're story making machines, but

1681
01:03:41,356 --> 01:03:42,741
Dan Goler: ultimately we're also kind of bouncing

1682
01:03:42,781 --> 01:03:44,565
Dan Goler: around with whatever is already unfolding.

1683
01:03:45,326 --> 01:03:52,841
Dan Goler: And just remembering that balance point to

1684
01:03:52,861 --> 01:03:53,769
Dan Goler: me will always be a reason to emphasize it,

1685
01:03:53,789 --> 01:03:54,657
Dan Goler: because I think that's the only way out of

1686
01:03:54,677 --> 01:03:57,856
Dan Goler: this situation, even though you and I will

1687
01:03:57,877 --> 01:04:00,586
Dan Goler: probably agree on like 98% of everything

1688
01:04:00,606 --> 01:04:01,409
Dan Goler: you want to criticize.

1689
01:04:01,690 --> 01:04:02,231
Ryan McCormick: Like I'm with you.

1690
01:04:03,421 --> 01:04:05,526
Ryan McCormick: I had to remember one thing about David

1691
01:04:05,687 --> 01:04:05,847
Ryan McCormick: Icke.

1692
01:04:06,729 --> 01:04:09,837
Ryan McCormick: I've met him in person and he's a trip, but

1693
01:04:09,857 --> 01:04:11,240
Ryan McCormick: there's something about him that happened

1694
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,928
Ryan McCormick: recently is that I don't know if we knew

1695
01:04:13,948 --> 01:04:16,938
Ryan McCormick: about this, but he's banned in 30 countries

1696
01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:20,484
Ryan McCormick: in the eu and he we just had a hearing

1697
01:04:21,125 --> 01:04:22,227
Ryan McCormick: because this was what he did.

1698
01:04:22,567 --> 01:04:26,913
Ryan McCormick: He went to the Netherlands at a peace

1699
01:04:26,954 --> 01:04:29,683
Ryan McCormick: conference to talk about peace and they

1700
01:04:29,743 --> 01:04:30,286
Ryan McCormick: banned him there.

1701
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,785
Ryan McCormick: And then they banned him in all 30 European

1702
01:04:32,347 --> 01:04:37,349
Ryan McCormick: countries and I mean he sounded the alarm

1703
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:43,087
Ryan McCormick: over a number of different things, but

1704
01:04:43,127 --> 01:04:44,491
Ryan McCormick: meeting him in person, I felt like a really

1705
01:04:44,511 --> 01:04:45,293
Ryan McCormick: good energy from him.

1706
01:04:45,741 --> 01:04:48,206
Ryan McCormick: But the fact that he got banned from 30

1707
01:04:48,226 --> 01:04:49,689
Ryan McCormick: different countries for speaking at a peace

1708
01:04:49,729 --> 01:04:52,314
Ryan McCormick: conference, I think that is incredible.

1709
01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:53,863
Dan Goler: Yeah, but it's a question of what you say

1710
01:04:53,884 --> 01:04:55,990
Dan Goler: in the peace conference, right?

1711
01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:56,531
Dan Goler: I'm not sure.

1712
01:04:57,562 --> 01:04:59,589
Ryan McCormick: He said he went there to protest for peace.

1713
01:05:01,142 --> 01:05:02,602
Dan Goler: Yeah, a lot of people say that Greta says

1714
01:05:02,622 --> 01:05:03,847
Dan Goler: that, and I don't think she's a positive

1715
01:05:03,887 --> 01:05:04,610
Dan Goler: person.

1716
01:05:04,650 --> 01:05:05,110
Dan Goler: Greta, oh my God.

1717
01:05:05,130 --> 01:05:06,011
Dan Goler: Yeah, a lot of people say that greta says

1718
01:05:06,031 --> 01:05:06,811
Dan Goler: that, and I don't think she's a positive

1719
01:05:06,831 --> 01:05:06,931
Dan Goler: greta.

1720
01:05:06,951 --> 01:05:09,493
Ryan McCormick: Oh my god, some of these people that are

1721
01:05:09,553 --> 01:05:09,933
Ryan McCormick: out there.

1722
01:05:10,053 --> 01:05:12,835
Ryan McCormick: It's like it's just hard to to gauge them

1723
01:05:12,935 --> 01:05:14,736
Ryan McCormick: and yeah, no it's not hard.

1724
01:05:14,956 --> 01:05:16,397
Dan Goler: I saw her the first time and I said, and

1725
01:05:16,437 --> 01:05:18,121
Dan Goler: it's very like you know, and nowadays we

1726
01:05:18,161 --> 01:05:19,986
Dan Goler: live in a world where passing judgment is

1727
01:05:20,026 --> 01:05:21,208
Dan Goler: like a dirty thing to do.

1728
01:05:21,228 --> 01:05:24,008
Dan Goler: Yeah, I, I think it's okay to do when it's

1729
01:05:24,129 --> 01:05:24,734
Dan Goler: clear as day.

1730
01:05:24,956 --> 01:05:27,884
Dan Goler: And the second I saw I was like, oh, I know

1731
01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:31,651
Dan Goler: who she's working for, so, yeah, it's, it's

1732
01:05:31,851 --> 01:05:31,952
Dan Goler: it.

1733
01:05:32,072 --> 01:05:34,041
Dan Goler: But again it's like the, the virtue

1734
01:05:34,081 --> 01:05:35,825
Dan Goler: signaling is is out of this world, right?

1735
01:05:36,166 --> 01:05:40,998
Dan Goler: So, ultimately, because I, I, I do, I, I

1736
01:05:41,178 --> 01:05:44,286
Dan Goler: squarely fall within the, uh, the, the type

1737
01:05:44,346 --> 01:05:46,732
Dan Goler: of a person that, uh, you know, would stand

1738
01:05:46,772 --> 01:05:48,463
Dan Goler: on his principles and tell you what I think

1739
01:05:48,523 --> 01:05:49,746
Dan Goler: is right, when I think that it is.

1740
01:05:50,368 --> 01:05:54,182
Dan Goler: But the more I well, both grow, uh, just in

1741
01:05:54,403 --> 01:05:56,928
Dan Goler: age, but also spiritually, the more I

1742
01:05:56,988 --> 01:05:59,473
Dan Goler: understand that I would be better off over

1743
01:05:59,493 --> 01:06:02,649
Dan Goler: time if, while I'm it's okay to pass

1744
01:06:02,689 --> 01:06:05,097
Dan Goler: judgment on certain things, do that in a

1745
01:06:05,157 --> 01:06:06,601
Dan Goler: way in the spirit that is, always

1746
01:06:06,661 --> 01:06:09,047
Dan Goler: remembering that if you would be in the

1747
01:06:09,067 --> 01:06:12,073
Dan Goler: shoes of that person, you don't know what

1748
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,005
Dan Goler: you would do and most likely would do

1749
01:06:14,065 --> 01:06:16,370
Dan Goler: exactly what that person did right, because

1750
01:06:16,831 --> 01:06:18,141
Dan Goler: you would be them right.

1751
01:06:18,782 --> 01:06:21,928
Dan Goler: And so we're all kind of playing a role and

1752
01:06:21,969 --> 01:06:24,834
Dan Goler: and yeah, it's not always an easy task.

1753
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,805
Dan Goler: Everything I'm saying is kind of like in

1754
01:06:26,825 --> 01:06:29,703
Dan Goler: the perfect scenario, right, I'm fully

1755
01:06:29,743 --> 01:06:30,246
Dan Goler: aware of that.

1756
01:06:30,740 --> 01:06:32,725
Dan Goler: But to the extent that I can take the

1757
01:06:32,785 --> 01:06:36,053
Dan Goler: position of balance, I do my best to do so.

1758
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:40,666
Dan Goler: Specific examples would be like I have a

1759
01:06:40,686 --> 01:06:44,473
Dan Goler: daily live on my channels like YouTube,

1760
01:06:44,553 --> 01:06:46,683
Dan Goler: tiktok, everywhere, and I show up almost

1761
01:06:46,703 --> 01:06:47,846
Dan Goler: every single day and have like a

1762
01:06:47,866 --> 01:06:49,029
Dan Goler: conversation with people for like an hour

1763
01:06:49,049 --> 01:06:52,527
Dan Goler: or two, sometimes three, and I'm a person.

1764
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,548
Dan Goler: Sometimes I wake up on the wrong side of

1765
01:06:55,909 --> 01:06:59,541
Dan Goler: bed, sometimes I wake up and I'm moody or

1766
01:06:59,582 --> 01:07:01,348
Dan Goler: I'm just in pain in that day for whatever

1767
01:07:01,388 --> 01:07:01,649
Dan Goler: reason.

1768
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,088
Dan Goler: And yeah that would influence how I talk to

1769
01:07:04,134 --> 01:07:04,394
Dan Goler: people.

1770
01:07:04,434 --> 01:07:05,435
Dan Goler: I'm just in pain in that day for whatever

1771
01:07:05,455 --> 01:07:06,336
Dan Goler: reason, and, yeah, that would influence how

1772
01:07:06,356 --> 01:07:06,716
Dan Goler: I talk to people.

1773
01:07:06,736 --> 01:07:06,896
Dan Goler: It will.

1774
01:07:06,916 --> 01:07:08,178
Dan Goler: If I'm, if I'm in pain, I would have a lot

1775
01:07:08,218 --> 01:07:11,181
Dan Goler: less patience with the types of ideas that

1776
01:07:11,221 --> 01:07:13,807
Dan Goler: I tend to already thought my way through it

1777
01:07:13,888 --> 01:07:15,712
Dan Goler: and it's like I don't feel like I need to

1778
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:16,682
Dan Goler: entertain them anymore.

1779
01:07:17,384 --> 01:07:18,928
Dan Goler: And then when people kind of bring it about

1780
01:07:19,209 --> 01:07:21,101
Dan Goler: strongly enough, I have like a like, an,

1781
01:07:21,302 --> 01:07:23,047
Dan Goler: like a reaction to it and that right, and

1782
01:07:23,187 --> 01:07:24,211
Dan Goler: you would hear that in my voice.

1783
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:30,623
Dan Goler: That enough, I have like, a like, a, like a

1784
01:07:30,643 --> 01:07:31,385
Dan Goler: reaction to it and that right, and you

1785
01:07:31,405 --> 01:07:31,947
Dan Goler: would hear that in my voice.

1786
01:07:31,967 --> 01:07:32,790
Dan Goler: That would be kind of a little bit more

1787
01:07:32,810 --> 01:07:32,910
Dan Goler: stern.

1788
01:07:32,930 --> 01:07:33,733
Dan Goler: But then the moments that I catch myself

1789
01:07:33,753 --> 01:07:34,234
Dan Goler: even doing the same live.

1790
01:07:34,254 --> 01:07:35,097
Dan Goler: It's very important for me to point that

1791
01:07:35,117 --> 01:07:35,920
Dan Goler: out, and it's not about just like oh, look

1792
01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:36,923
Dan Goler: at me, I'm so self-aware.

1793
01:07:37,324 --> 01:07:39,070
Dan Goler: No, it's just what it helps me to do.

1794
01:07:39,111 --> 01:07:39,191
Dan Goler: Is?

1795
01:07:39,291 --> 01:07:40,596
Dan Goler: It reminds me in real time?

1796
01:07:40,616 --> 01:07:43,146
Dan Goler: It's like whoa, whoa, that thing you're

1797
01:07:43,186 --> 01:07:45,261
Dan Goler: raring around, look what you're doing.

1798
01:07:45,642 --> 01:07:47,027
Dan Goler: You're doing exactly what you're saying you

1799
01:07:47,047 --> 01:07:50,159
Dan Goler: shouldn't do, right, and that is a good

1800
01:07:50,179 --> 01:07:52,245
Dan Goler: reminder for me and that's why I always see

1801
01:07:52,285 --> 01:07:53,770
Dan Goler: it in, like everything we do, so like, if

1802
01:07:53,790 --> 01:07:56,244
Dan Goler: you really think about it, all the ills of

1803
01:07:56,264 --> 01:07:56,725
Dan Goler: the world.

1804
01:07:59,189 --> 01:08:00,932
Dan Goler: It's like this infinite field of Venn

1805
01:08:00,952 --> 01:08:03,063
Dan Goler: diagrams right Of like, where you and I

1806
01:08:03,103 --> 01:08:05,269
Dan Goler: would agree on certain subjects, other ones

1807
01:08:05,309 --> 01:08:09,107
Dan Goler: we would disagree, and ultimately, what we

1808
01:08:09,147 --> 01:08:11,286
Dan Goler: want to do is step out of the game of the

1809
01:08:11,326 --> 01:08:12,681
Dan Goler: finger pointing really Like.

1810
01:08:12,741 --> 01:08:14,087
Dan Goler: It's just like okay, what can I do about it?

1811
01:08:14,961 --> 01:08:17,910
Dan Goler: What you just told me, that's amazing,

1812
01:08:18,421 --> 01:08:20,387
Dan Goler: honestly, I've never heard anybody say that,

1813
01:08:20,567 --> 01:08:21,450
Dan Goler: so I fully accept it.

1814
01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:23,793
Dan Goler: I'm like okay, I can now officially say

1815
01:08:23,833 --> 01:08:26,183
Dan Goler: I've heard one good example of somebody who,

1816
01:08:26,484 --> 01:08:28,348
Dan Goler: because they heard somebody ringing the

1817
01:08:28,388 --> 01:08:30,381
Dan Goler: alarms, they said I'm going to take things

1818
01:08:30,421 --> 01:08:32,809
Dan Goler: in my own hands, and they did that squarely

1819
01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:33,974
Dan Goler: because they were warned.

1820
01:08:34,616 --> 01:08:35,720
Dan Goler: Okay, I stand corrected.

1821
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,089
Dan Goler: There are examples where, where that can

1822
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:39,916
Dan Goler: play a benefit I just know that from

1823
01:08:40,578 --> 01:08:43,126
Dan Goler: statistically, it's much less likely for

1824
01:08:43,166 --> 01:08:44,069
Dan Goler: most people to do so.

1825
01:08:44,089 --> 01:08:45,621
Dan Goler: It requires a certain kind of psychology,

1826
01:08:45,681 --> 01:08:48,507
Dan Goler: commitment, belief in your own ability to

1827
01:08:48,547 --> 01:08:50,691
Dan Goler: discern things and and act on them.

1828
01:08:51,393 --> 01:08:52,682
Dan Goler: Uh, that's not everybody's.

1829
01:08:53,143 --> 01:08:55,809
Dan Goler: Uh, luck in this world it's here.

1830
01:08:56,150 --> 01:08:57,072
Ryan McCormick: Well, you get here at some of you don't

1831
01:08:57,092 --> 01:08:58,683
Ryan McCormick: think, you don't think critically in part

1832
01:08:58,703 --> 01:09:00,287
Ryan McCormick: of that operation for 2020, they were

1833
01:09:00,308 --> 01:09:02,202
Ryan McCormick: trying to get people be afraid and it was

1834
01:09:02,242 --> 01:09:02,665
Ryan McCormick: amazing.

1835
01:09:02,725 --> 01:09:05,121
Ryan McCormick: How were they were able to, I guess, dumb

1836
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:06,908
Ryan McCormick: down people the the stuff that they make

1837
01:09:06,928 --> 01:09:08,996
Ryan McCormick: people do, and those didn't bite us.

1838
01:09:09,077 --> 01:09:09,398
Ryan McCormick: It was just.

1839
01:09:10,402 --> 01:09:12,389
Ryan McCormick: It was just weird to stand away from that.

1840
01:09:12,409 --> 01:09:14,979
Ryan McCormick: But to come back to your amazing discovery

1841
01:09:14,999 --> 01:09:16,725
Ryan McCormick: that we're talking at the beginning, when

1842
01:09:16,765 --> 01:09:19,675
Ryan McCormick: you look at what you have accomplished and

1843
01:09:19,715 --> 01:09:21,821
Ryan McCormick: this door of discovery that you've opened

1844
01:09:21,901 --> 01:09:25,965
Ryan McCormick: in, do you foresee other tests in the

1845
01:09:26,025 --> 01:09:28,948
Ryan McCormick: future that will reveal deeper levels of,

1846
01:09:30,170 --> 01:09:32,953
Ryan McCormick: say, predictive programming in this reality,

1847
01:09:33,453 --> 01:09:36,096
Ryan McCormick: or deeper levels of structure in this

1848
01:09:36,136 --> 01:09:38,363
Ryan McCormick: reality, and what do you ultimately hope

1849
01:09:38,383 --> 01:09:39,786
Ryan McCormick: will happen with your discovery?

1850
01:09:42,271 --> 01:09:49,180
Dan Goler: Sorry about that, I have a sorry sorry

1851
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:49,421
Dan Goler: about that.

1852
01:09:49,441 --> 01:09:50,183
Dan Goler: I have uh, sorry, um, what I think will

1853
01:09:50,203 --> 01:09:51,066
Dan Goler: happen with the discovery, I can't know,

1854
01:09:51,086 --> 01:09:52,029
Dan Goler: because I uh, because I'm kind of following

1855
01:09:52,069 --> 01:09:52,751
Dan Goler: the way of the dao.

1856
01:09:53,112 --> 01:09:55,221
Dan Goler: I'm just kind of doing the best thing that

1857
01:09:55,281 --> 01:09:59,289
Dan Goler: feels right in that moment, um, and as long

1858
01:09:59,329 --> 01:10:01,693
Dan Goler: as it leads to positive results, both in

1859
01:10:01,834 --> 01:10:04,328
Dan Goler: how I see people react to it and what kind

1860
01:10:04,388 --> 01:10:06,564
Dan Goler: of, if they, does it give them meaning or

1861
01:10:06,604 --> 01:10:07,507
Dan Goler: does it disturb them?

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Dan Goler: Um, and plus, potentially like the real

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01:10:12,019 --> 01:10:13,102
Dan Goler: world applications of this.

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01:10:13,824 --> 01:10:15,408
Dan Goler: So I'm just following whatever feels right

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Dan Goler: in the moment.

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Dan Goler: That being said, if I have to make my

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Dan Goler: wildest guess, I think that the second,

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Dan Goler: we're going to start probing this more

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Dan Goler: scientifically, which is what I'm basically

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01:10:30,180 --> 01:10:30,581
Dan Goler: attempting to do now.

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01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:31,664
Dan Goler: I'm trying to bring the right kind of

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01:10:31,984 --> 01:10:33,006
Dan Goler: investors to do like official, like actual

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Dan Goler: tests with it.

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Dan Goler: Um, I think we'll be able to discern what

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01:10:36,894 --> 01:10:38,343
Dan Goler: the code is doing in relationship to what

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01:10:38,383 --> 01:10:39,729
Dan Goler: we already understand about the world in a

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Dan Goler: physical way, and it might even give us a

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01:10:42,861 --> 01:10:44,604
Dan Goler: good glimpse of what consciousness is and

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01:10:44,904 --> 01:10:47,268
Dan Goler: how it comes about in reality.

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01:10:47,329 --> 01:10:48,851
Dan Goler: Is it fundamental, is it an arising

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01:10:48,891 --> 01:10:49,352
Dan Goler: property?

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01:10:49,452 --> 01:10:50,113
Dan Goler: In what way?

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Dan Goler: All of that stuff, and I think that we'll

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Dan Goler: be able to.

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01:10:55,022 --> 01:10:55,980
Dan Goler: The second we're going to start creating

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Dan Goler: more of a Rosetta Stone of what the code is

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Dan Goler: actually doing, so like if we create some

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01:10:59,724 --> 01:11:02,086
Dan Goler: you know big perturbations to the

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Dan Goler: environment, like with powerful magnetic

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Dan Goler: fields, and if we see the change in the

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01:11:06,205 --> 01:11:07,469
Dan Goler: code happening in a particular way.

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Dan Goler: Oh okay, so this is somehow connected to

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01:11:09,926 --> 01:11:10,448
Dan Goler: magnetism.

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01:11:10,488 --> 01:11:12,543
Dan Goler: Okay, how, when I move the magnet, what

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01:11:12,604 --> 01:11:12,965
Dan Goler: happens?

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01:11:13,948 --> 01:11:15,923
Dan Goler: Write everything down, start creating

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01:11:15,983 --> 01:11:16,766
Dan Goler: theories around it.

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Dan Goler: I think that kind of way of approaching it

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01:11:20,129 --> 01:11:20,470
Dan Goler: can.

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Dan Goler: Again, you asked me what I think can

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01:11:23,942 --> 01:11:26,900
Dan Goler: potentially be the, the, at least the, the

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01:11:26,940 --> 01:11:27,702
Dan Goler: trajectory of it.

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Dan Goler: It might be a whole new science where you

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01:11:31,349 --> 01:11:35,943
Dan Goler: study reality again, with the constant

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01:11:36,003 --> 01:11:37,766
Dan Goler: observation of the code, of what happens

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01:11:37,846 --> 01:11:41,974
Dan Goler: when you do x, and then you can potentially

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01:11:42,014 --> 01:11:43,422
Dan Goler: create new technologies that we never

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01:11:43,783 --> 01:11:44,204
Dan Goler: imagined.

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01:11:44,484 --> 01:11:47,009
Dan Goler: Warp, drivep, drive, or literally like

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Dan Goler: bending the rules of the environment that

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Dan Goler: we live in.

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Ryan McCormick: Mr Danny Goeller, thank you for being with

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Ryan McCormick: us today.

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01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:58,731
Ryan McCormick: Very engaging, riveting answers.

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Ryan McCormick: I have to tell you.

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01:12:00,304 --> 01:12:03,655
Ryan McCormick: You're so eloquent in the way you speak and

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01:12:03,836 --> 01:12:06,643
Ryan McCormick: how you were able to present very complex

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Ryan McCormick: ideas, simplify them, raise more questions.

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Ryan McCormick: It was definitely a trip.

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Ryan McCormick: We would be honored to have you back A

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01:12:12,340 --> 01:12:14,866
Ryan McCormick: little more about Dan by going to

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Ryan McCormick: codeofrealitycom.

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Ryan McCormick: Also go to his YouTube channel, dan Go

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01:12:20,429 --> 01:12:22,302
Ryan McCormick: Thoughts, dan.

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01:12:22,502 --> 01:12:23,245
Ryan McCormick: Thank you so much.

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Dan Goler: Thank you so much, brian.

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Dan Goler: Your pleasure, I appreciate that.

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Ryan McCormick: Thank you, thank you.

