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We're going to geek freaks and freak.

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Today I'm joined by Jonathan.

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Well, hello.

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And we have squeaks.

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Squeaks?

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That's for the.

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That's for the visual. There, there.

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Extra bonus for the turn.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We have a lot to talk about today.

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Well, actually, let's be honest,
it's like that.

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But we have some news about Carrie
and Foggy and Daredevil season two.

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There's a monopoly movie in the works.

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Vikings is coming back.

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We're also going to be discussing the best
and worst adaptations.

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And are they getting better or worse over
time?

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We're also, have an interview with Rob
and Elise from Nerd Best Friends,

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so make sure you guys tune in for that.

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Let's

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go ahead and get started
with our question of the week, though.

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What movie, show or game

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that you wish
you could experience for the first time?

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Again? Squeaks, let's start with you.

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Oh, man.

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Okay, so first game
it has to be and always will be.

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Like one of my best friends,
is King of hearts,

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and, I still have memories of,
buying that shit when.

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When layaway was a thing. Right.

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And like, scaling your
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but to say, but also like memories
of like, you know, yelling at my parents

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to come see, like, look,
you know, like I'm winning,

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I'm playing with Winnie
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character that pops up on the screen,
whatever world.

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And, those are some of the, like,

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I don't know, just memories.

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I don't ever leave your hand.
One of those core memories. Right.

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So, Kingdom Hearts is something

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that I wish I would experience
for the first time again.

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I remember, yeah.

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When that was first coming out,
we were camping at Dillon Beach,

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and that was back when we, like Game
Informer and stuff like that.

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So we got information

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and there was this news that there's a new
Final Fantasy, but it was going to have

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Disney characters in it.

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And it was,
it was at a buzz before the game came out.

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And yeah, that was like a lot of hype.

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I know one of the first games I remember
a lot of hype before it even came out.

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Yeah for sure.
So that that definitely mine. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What about you, John?

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Yeah. I'm thinking Halo probably.

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And I say that
and I bite my own tongue in the same, word

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because I know there's a new halo Halo
infinite out and I haven't played it.

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But I remember back in the day
when we had the time and we lived here,

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and so that, you would play through
all the halos together.

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And it was just such a good game, like
it was well made of its time especially.

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It stood out above everything else.

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So. Good. Yeah.

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But aside from games, I would love
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both Avatar The Last Airbender,
because that was just such good writing.

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I mean, we were young
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that seemed like it's for kids,
but the writing was for adults for sure.

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And then heroes remember heroes like.

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And. Yes.

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I don't even remember, I think NBC yeah.

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Yeah, it was so good at the time
and they tried to do a reboot.

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It just wasn't as good.

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And I'm sure if you rewatch it now,
it seemed cheesy and cheap.

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But back then when we didn't have MCU
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it was, yeah, groundbreaking.

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And it is in the development
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So we could be cool. Yeah.

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That'd be, for me,
the no surprise hero World of Warcraft.

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That idea of a game
that's that big, that's always connected.

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It's always live that community,
to to just get lost in the Barrens or,

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you know, wherever,
that is as much as you play it.

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Now, we've been playing it for over 20
or 20 years at this point.

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And it it just can't capture that
like the first time.

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And I even
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like experiencing it
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So that would be one game
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like they'll having.

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It was the game you bought a PC for,
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and yeah, that was good days.

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Good days guys. Right?

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Let's go ahead and get into our news.

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So first off we're going to be talking
about Daredevil season two.

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So spoiler warning for that.

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If you guys haven't seen
the first episode of Born Again.

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But we just heard from the show
co-creator or co.

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Yeah, showrunner that Karen and Foggy
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when you're watching their first episode,
there are definitely some reshoots.

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And that's because Kevin, foggy
Bill, Bob Iger came in and said like,

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no, no, no, guys, we need to clean up
how we do Disney shows or a marvel shows.

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They're not working well.

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And so Agatha was the first one

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to have a showrunner,
a show Bible, things like that.

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And one of the things they changed
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Karen and Foggy weren't in the episode.

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And he's like, that's crazy.
I mean, we need to have Karen.

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They are Daredevil.

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They're they're his corner.

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They're his soul and morality.

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So they brought him in
and you could feel it.

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But if you guys know what, I'm kind of
talking a little bit to the spoilers.

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People will move away.

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Foggy dies in the first episode.

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In the first ten minutes. Yeah.

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So the question is,
how do you bring him back?

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We see this all the time in comic books.

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You know, people
being brought back from the dead.

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Do you think it'll be
a psychological thing,

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or do you think that we're going
to get some sort of like Lazarus Pit?

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What do you what do you guys think?

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Well, a quick question, then.
How does he die?

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Because that changes a lot,
how we can bring him back.

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So he just shot the.

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Video Jonathan haven't seen it yet.

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So, Yeah.

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He is shot in the chest by balls.

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Okay.

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So I mean, that in itself, he could be
in the hospital and recover from right.

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In, in the, in the show, because this
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We then jump one year ahead
and he has been dead for a year.

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So Daredevil and Karen
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Everybody thinks he's dead,

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and both of them move on with their lives
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I almost so. Yeah, I mean, go ahead.

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Like, we saw the hand and the,
the ninjas and stuff, like how they have

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that resurrection ability.

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They could write it that way.

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Was in his character is always going to be
one who was resurrected from the dead.

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And that would be, you know,
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who is very,

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you know, walking the straight and arrow
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in the superhero world.

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So I don't think they would do
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I think it would be more likely
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kept alive, you know,
one of these secret organizations,

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kingpin or somebody and,
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either used as leverage
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on, or maybe to get information out of him
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But I don't I hope in the end
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change dramatically,
maybe grows, you know,

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finding new purpose
or something like that, but not to be.

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Oh, he's a now he's an undead lawyer.
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And Jane is, you know. The zombie. Lawyer.

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In the court.

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Your honor, brains.

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That's a actually a super good idea, John,
but I was thinking more like,

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I don't really care about this character,

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so I feel like maybe a little bit
like flashback.

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Flashback points
or like something in his mind

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that's telling

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and kind of trying to help them steer
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because then we'll get some, like,
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bonding between them even in like,
an afterlife and kind of make a helped

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Mike make certain decisions,

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but not like to bring him back
or keep him alive or do whatever.

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I just think I don't

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I don't think he's like,
he might be strong in this series,

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but he's not really,
like, strong in the Marvel Universe.

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Right?

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To me,

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there are times where, like, She-Hulk,
he pops up in comics, with the She-Hulk.

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But even at that,

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he's kind of just like that character
to joke around, about, that.

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Yeah. If I if I remember right.

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I think, like She-Hulk

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sleeping with, like, another dude
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same apartment together,
so he just hears it all night, but, Right.

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I don't know,
I just do we care like Frank.

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I know you're like, watching this. Well,
keep it up already.

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Yeah, I. Would say

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the key with foggy and with Karen
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Matt, without falling too deep into like,
I am Daredevil.

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You know, like the Batman problem, right?

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Where Bruce Wayne is all
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The thing that keeps Matt still grounded
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And with Karen out of the picture,
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after this event.

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And as she's gone. So he's by himself.

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And he does seem to be losing himself
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Not. Necessarily Punisher if he doesn't
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Right.

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But that's part of

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that's the problem with Daredevil is
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You have a Punisher for that.

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You want him to still be like lawyer
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So that's kind of the problem with me is

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I do want there to be something
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And, what I would like for him
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if they're going to be so adamant
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is to do the Joker Batman thing
that we see from the Arkham games.

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Joker dies
in one of the Batman games. Yeah.

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And this is. Yeah.

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He's still yeah, he's
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but he's basically like the devil
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kind of whispering in his ear,
suggesting things, his morality check.

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And that would be very cool to me
to see foggy

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kind of like sitting next to him
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you know, fighting somebody or he's
about to punch somebody might be too hard.

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And he's like,
that's not what you would do, Matt.

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I think that would be kind of a fun little
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Do we want to see him like Joker?
Oh, sorry.

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Or do I want to see him like Joker
where he's all, messed up looking like,

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you know, Joker was.

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I would like to see him
always show up with, like, a chest in it

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or like a bullet in his chest.

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And I was, like.
A bit of blood on the shirt.

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Yeah, a little too dark.

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I think that

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would tease, like, a, interesting lesson
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Also, to, you know, to the audience that,
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isn't truly gone if you remember them
kind of thing like that.

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Right? Yeah.

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You know, people can live on forever
as long as we learn from

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the things they taught us
and stuff like that.

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So I think that's a little too deep
for the type of show we're watching.

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Yeah,
it's a little too deep for this show.

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Okay. So I yeah, I don't.

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I doubt they would go that route.

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But every kind of cool.

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It's not too deep for Daredevil though,

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because his whole thing is that
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And, a nun.

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It's not too deep for the character,
but maybe Trent is, because.

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I'm trying to get cut.

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because I watched all the season one,
and then I watched a little bit of season

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two back when they first aired
and then stopped.

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So I finished season two
or in the beginning of season three.

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So right now
he's like struggling with his faith

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and trying to, you know,
regain his strength and all that stuff.

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So it's really good.

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Arc that he's in the middle of.

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Season
three is my favorite one. So yeah. So.

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That's when you get a bull's eye to
is in season three.

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So he's going to be from let's
go ahead. Move forward.

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We have a monopoly moving.

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At first I'm like, that sounds stupid,

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but it's being written by the guys
who do that Dungeons and Dragons.

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I but to me, yeah.

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What do you think speaks to about this?

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Yeah.

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I mean, okay, so,
I'm kind of looking forward

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to potentially seeing it

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for the fact that it was done
by the Dungeons Dragons breakers.

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And then I'm kind of like picturing it
to, like, it'd be like this big,

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trying to think like this big city, right?

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Of just, like,
glamor, big buildings and stuff.

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Like, what kind of the things
that you want to strive for,

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strive for, like buy property on, well,

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Park Place or something
like at the end, right? Yeah. Boardwalk.

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It'd be nice to see those cities
were like, yeah, this is the ghetto.

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We don't really care
about these ones, but,

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you know, people still own the real estate
and it'd be great.

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So, yeah.

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Yeah, it'd be funny to see, like,
this is maybe like this, group of guys,

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like, consistently like, try to, like, buy
a property, right?

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So it'd be funny, like to see, like,
those kinds of wars or whatever.

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And, and I could see a lot of humor
with this thing, but I think at the end,

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obviously, like the

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the lesson learned,

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I would feel like
if I was like pitching this movie

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to it's like, okay, what happens when?
So it does buy it all.

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And then what? Like, what do you have?

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I mean, you probably like

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ruined relationships or whatever
when you do own everything but something.

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A twist that I would really like to see
though,

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is something that the Lego movie did

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the whole time you're watching this movie,
but at the end of it,

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you see it realized that there's people
that playing with these Legos.

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So I would like to say during the movie,

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if there was like this, you could say
god like type character that's changing

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things around or events that are happening
that they don't know why.

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And it's because there's someone
orchestrating the whole game, board game.

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If you do that, then at some point,
whoever's the banker

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has to be stealing from the bank.

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That'd be great. Now.

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Or like somebody cheating in the game,
when we find out later on, it's like,

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oh, that's because they were hiding that
they had this card or something like that.

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That's our brother Miguel.

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Yeah.

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So to
me, I'm thinking like, is has to have Jack

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the Jack black in it
or somebody like him has got to be.

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Getting that. Right away.

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I'm thinking of the Jumanji.
Like how good those were.

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Those are.

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But I'm thinking that in the world
of the cat

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in that movie with Mike Myers,
I remember how like, when cool that.

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I love them was.

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I was forgotten, Jim. Dude.

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So good, so good. And so that says one.

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And it wasn't it wasn't good.

301
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It isn't like platinum is amazing praise.

302
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Like him when he's doing the whole chef
scene and stuff in it.

303
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Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah.

304
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I think that's why I got a lot of bad rap,
but I thought it was hilarious.

305
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I love that movie.

306
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Oh my God. Yeah.

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So I'd like to see Jack black as some
some rich guy in the city or whatever.

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And he's going around trying to buy up
all the buildings in town.

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And then there's two young kids
who realize like, well, no,

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if you guys buy everything and he and he's
jacking up rent and stuff like that,

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so people can't afford anything.

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And so two young kids realize like, well,
he buys up everything he's got owner all,

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and we won't have anywhere to live
and blah, blah, blah.

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So two young kids have to like, work
together to try to overthrow this guy

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that's trying to make a monopoly.
And it's in their small town.

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So that's a good idea to have,

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like someone that's trying to buy it all
and then the kids or whatever.

318
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But I kind of want to see something
a little different.

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Like I want to see like some trade war
type stuff to like Wolf on Wall Street.

320
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Leonardo. Yeah.

321
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And they're always.

322
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Yeah.

323
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Especially with,
with what you're mentioning beforehand.

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Like, we see like this big battle.

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Like if it's a serious thing,

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these writers, I think it would be a joke,
but would it be a seriously like,

327
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if it is this big battle amongst like four
different kings of New York or whatever?

328
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And then at the end, you zoom out,
you see,

329
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it's like four kids
in one of his apartment. Kirito.

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So he's like, oh yeah, all these asshole

331
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attitudes is actually just these four kids
sitting around a table.

332
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That'd be kind of a fun
little thing, like, oh, it's all childish.

333
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The funny thing
is, a first original creator of monopoly

334
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made the game to teach people
that that monopoly is bad

335
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and capitalism is bad,
but then was kind of upset by it.

336
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Her game was bought and sold,
blah blah blah blah.

337
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But I think it was like that.

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And it was celebrating capitalism
and the police and stuff like that.

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She's always hated that.

340
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And so it's funny that,
well, we're talking about this movie.

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We're all coming to the same consensus

342
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that at the end
there's a lesson to be learned,

343
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that the lesson that she wanted in
the first place is that it's not great to

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own everything.

345
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But I mean, with with John Francis
Daley and Jonathan Goldstein,

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the two writers on this,
I do feel like it will be a comedy.

347
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And maybe there is a thing
where we kind of do like,

348
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a yeah, a satire on, on capitalism,
but also like

349
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just these guys constantly
making all their money and losing it all

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because, like, you keep going around to
the poor area every time you go past go,

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this could be a part where they go to jail
and somebody's

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gonna have a car
to get out, stuff like that.

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Maybe they can make a little bit of jokes

354
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about that,
you know, Community Chest or whatever.

355
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Yeah, I think it's a little soft, right?

356
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Because, you want to have this lesson,
but then you also make this game

357
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where, like,
that's the point you want to win, right?

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And so you make me do it. Right.

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But it'd be funny to kind of see,
like what you said,

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like, go, past these poor areas, whatever.

361
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But imagine, like,
like these, like big wigs, right?

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Or just trying to get these, like,
really nice properties,

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but somehow they keep landing, right.

364
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Whatever.
They did make it on these poor properties.

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So all these, these like people
with these small

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properties are getting rich
because they keep landing on them.

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I think that'd be funny.

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They just be like, oh fuck, Boulevard
or whatever it's called.

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Know? Yeah,

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one dude's always in the railroad. Two

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it's all on the writers.

372
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Because again, when I hear monopoly
movie, like, why are we doing this?

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You know, this reminds me of that battle.

374
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Well, you know what?

375
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Honestly, I'm saying this, but
that battlefield movie, what is it called?

376
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Battleship. Battleship movie?
When that thing was announced.

377
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Kind of stupid. It's
not the worst movie. It's actually.

378
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Kind of. Good. Yeah, yeah.

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It's just the premise.

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When you think of, like you're, you're

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grasping at straws to take a board game
that has no depth to it.

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And you're you're making all of the story,
all of the at almost nothing.

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You're taking a picture
and writing a whole book about it.

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And it's like,

385
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that's that's kind of a lot
just to get the value that it provides

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from being recognizable.

387
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Yeah.

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But you know, if it if you can make
a good movie out of it, then do it.

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It's still it's still a recognizable name.

390
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It's almost like the barbarian. Invasion
I have.

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I mean they have like different jobs
and stuff like that,

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but they're not like a super, like, story
based, established concept already.

393
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Like the indie was. Right?

394
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And they I thought, that movie's great.

395
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I love the Batman movie. Cracks me up.

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I one thing it's kind of disheartening
is the fact that these guys aren't

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making more Dungeons and Dragons movies.

398
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Like that thing to me was so great.

399
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Yeah,
I was wondering. Like, make another one.

400
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All right.

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Moving forward, Michael Hirst, he's

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the creator of the Viking series
and his Viking spinoff.

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He's making a new series
for Amazon called Blood Ax.

404
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So just a little,
little story behind blood ax, Eric.

405
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Blood ax, and his wife, Gun
Hilde will also be on the show.

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He was ruthless, both in politics
and in combat.

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His father was a king of Norway.

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Eventually, what happens is
Blood ax takes over Norway and then.

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And then takes over Northumbria.

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So he's like this conquering.

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He's one of the first big kings.

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Did you guys have a chance
to watch the Vikings series?

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And what are we needing?

414
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Why do we need more of these basic.
Oh my God, yes.

415
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I watched it all, and I think it's, crazy.

416
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Binge watch it during, like, one of the
my first born or something like that

417
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and on leave or whatever,
but it's got this like,

418
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it's, hints of Game of Thrones
without the intense, like, magical side.

419
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Like there are some stuff like,
I don't know what you call it.

420
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There's, there's some,

421
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spiritual type stuff that goes on,
but it's a really grounded also.

422
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And, and, it just, I don't know, it's just
the characters were perfect to me.

423
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I had a blast with it.

424
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It was definitely, like,
after the first season.

425
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You could tell, like,
the budget went up, right?

426
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The first season was horrible.
Like fighting.

427
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Like I'm just seeing a bunch of people
laughing and shit.

428
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But then next thing you know.

429
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Yeah, now we're doing, like, crazy, like,
ripping bodies apart and stuff like that.

430
00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:55,614
Like, really gory. It gets gorier.

431
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The seasons where they go attack France.

432
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You're like, this is the movie budget.
This is crazy. Expensive.

433
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Yeah, yeah.

434
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But yeah.

435
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I don't know, it was just, good storylines
with, issues that were happening

436
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of like, who's helming what and who's
taking charge when others are gone.

437
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:11,430
And, I don't know, it was just that,
again, it's it's Game of Thrones to me

438
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without the crazy, not as much magic,
you know, I guess.

439
00:17:14,666 --> 00:17:16,635
And the politics aren't as intense
either, too.

440
00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:17,936
Like,
you write about the Game of Thrones thing,

441
00:17:17,936 --> 00:17:19,471
but it was also kind of
like the scaled back a little bit.

442
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So it's a little bit
more enjoyable to watch

443
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unless like you have to focus on
absolutely every little detail.

444
00:17:23,175 --> 00:17:25,077
Because it was just like
oh yeah I know that guy with the ax.

445
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He's going to go to that guy with the ax

446
00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:29,114
and like it was nice like that,
you know in that way.

447
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Yeah.

448
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And also the thing too is, is
that was based off of a legend amongst

449
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the Norse, about, Ragnar Lothbrok,
who was kind of like everybody's dad.

450
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This character, like,
literally has a statue of him in Norway,

451
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so, like, this is actually a real person.

452
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And when when we get the spinoff
or like later in the seasons

453
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for Vikings, that character,
this son is a real character.

454
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So it's interesting
to see the take kind of go into

455
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like the book
basically like these are real characters.

456
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So yeah,
this is more their history than fantasy.

457
00:17:57,176 --> 00:17:58,911
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.

458
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What is
it that you guys want to see out of this

459
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that we might not have seen before?

460
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Like, for me,
I would like to see other cultures

461
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and their interactions, like,
we got a little bit with, like, France

462
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or whatnot, but,
with Northumbria and things like that. No.

463
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Like, I would like to see other nations
at this time kind of come into conflict

464
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with the Vikings and how they handle them,
because, they were

465
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they were different than their neighbors
in a lot of ways.

466
00:18:20,165 --> 00:18:23,302
And also, let's show
the Vikings more extensively

467
00:18:23,302 --> 00:18:25,771
like they were farmers
first, Raiders second.

468
00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:27,239
But every so we show them on screen.

469
00:18:27,239 --> 00:18:28,574
Yeah they're raiding it.

470
00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:30,809
So it would be of if you guys played
Valhalla.

471
00:18:30,809 --> 00:18:32,077
It's a great interpretation of them.

472
00:18:32,077 --> 00:18:35,314
Like most of what they're doing is just
trying to establish colonies and yeah,

473
00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:39,284
and survive in a land that has actual
feudal, feudal whatever, like actual land.

474
00:18:40,352 --> 00:18:41,386
But instead, like,

475
00:18:41,386 --> 00:18:44,389
so exact all time in these movies,
you see some more of that?

476
00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:46,158
What. Like what?

477
00:18:46,158 --> 00:18:47,893
So is this post first Vikings.

478
00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:50,062
So at the end of the Vikings series,
I remember like,

479
00:18:50,062 --> 00:18:53,198
yeah, they were kind of being drifted away
and and like actual a history.

480
00:18:53,198 --> 00:18:53,465
Right.

481
00:18:53,465 --> 00:18:55,801
Like adopting like,

482
00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:57,035
Catholicism and all that stuff.

483
00:18:57,035 --> 00:18:59,138
So it's like the Vikings
kind of slowly went away.

484
00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,772
I'm assuming this is beforehand.

485
00:19:00,772 --> 00:19:02,207
Is that correct?

486
00:19:02,207 --> 00:19:02,407
Yeah.

487
00:19:02,407 --> 00:19:05,677
Because this is a long span
and a lot of different areas

488
00:19:05,677 --> 00:19:07,513
that are Vikings, you know, technically.

489
00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:10,048
And so yeah, this would be
I think this is beforehand.

490
00:19:10,048 --> 00:19:10,816
Yeah. Yeah.

491
00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:13,886
So I don't know, maybe that continued
conflict of, like the people going away

492
00:19:13,886 --> 00:19:16,889
essentially, maybe they feel like their,
culture is being written off,

493
00:19:16,922 --> 00:19:19,958
you know, because of maybe conflicts
with other cultures and stuff like that,

494
00:19:19,958 --> 00:19:22,761
like we see in the lots of the,
The Last of the seasons,

495
00:19:22,761 --> 00:19:23,595
maybe something like that.

496
00:19:23,595 --> 00:19:25,430
More where that conflict, I don't know.

497
00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:27,599
Yeah, I like that idea
because like in The Last Kingdom,

498
00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:30,602
which is a very good series
and actually making a movie for right now.

499
00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:32,604
If you guys haven't watched that,
I absolutely recommend it.

500
00:19:32,604 --> 00:19:34,006
Maybe even with the Vikings.

501
00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:37,743
And in that one specifically,
they're taking over England

502
00:19:38,043 --> 00:19:39,912
and there are certain tribes
of the Vikings

503
00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:43,448
that have joined the English side
and are now kind of like English boys.

504
00:19:43,582 --> 00:19:45,884
You know, they're just they're like,
oh, we're still Dane.

505
00:19:45,884 --> 00:19:48,687
And they're like, no, you're not,
you know, you're you're go to church now.

506
00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:50,589
You're not worshiping the trees
like we do. Whatever.

507
00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:51,823
Yeah. So, you know.

508
00:19:51,823 --> 00:19:54,126
Yeah,
we need to actually see out like deals

509
00:19:54,126 --> 00:19:56,862
being made, like Vikings make making deals
with, like, Englishmen or whatnot.

510
00:19:56,862 --> 00:19:58,664
And then kind of
betraying their own tribe.

511
00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:01,233
I would mind saying that. Yeah.

512
00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:04,236
I like and from, like, Game of Thrones,
I like the,

513
00:20:04,236 --> 00:20:07,906
you know, elevated fantasy
side of it, dragons and magic and whatnot.

514
00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:10,242
And I know
this isn't going to have that to it

515
00:20:10,242 --> 00:20:12,277
because it's
just a totally different vibe.

516
00:20:12,277 --> 00:20:14,379
But I think more depth to the story,
like you're saying,

517
00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:16,848
like, doesn't have much the politics
and stuff like that.

518
00:20:16,848 --> 00:20:20,485
It doesn't have to be so strategic
and super complicated.

519
00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:22,454
But like you're saying
like kind of elaborate

520
00:20:22,454 --> 00:20:24,623
on the culture more and like,
what does it look like

521
00:20:24,623 --> 00:20:26,458
when they go back home
when they're not in war?

522
00:20:26,458 --> 00:20:29,194
What are their bakers,
you know, look like they have to eat?

523
00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:30,462
There's there's a butcher somewhere.

524
00:20:30,462 --> 00:20:33,865
It's like they're not all just,
you know, the warriors like.

525
00:20:33,865 --> 00:20:34,633
And Star Trek.

526
00:20:34,633 --> 00:20:35,601
We see the Klingons like.

527
00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:37,069
Well, somebody makes the Klingon armor.

528
00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:40,038
Somebody you know does builds their ships.

529
00:20:40,038 --> 00:20:41,807
Where's the engineers? Where's the doctor?

530
00:20:41,807 --> 00:20:45,410
You know, we only see warriors,
so it'd be cool to see kind of.

531
00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:45,744
Yeah.

532
00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:49,548
The the depth in their culture
that you don't get from the other shows.

533
00:20:49,781 --> 00:20:50,882
Yeah.

534
00:20:50,882 --> 00:20:53,151
That is kind of a blindspot in Star Trek
itself, too, is the fact

535
00:20:53,151 --> 00:20:56,154
that we don't see
a lot of people who are not in Federation.

536
00:20:56,188 --> 00:21:00,092
And I remember very clearly the one
episode of Voyager I could think of

537
00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:03,128
where, Harry Kim has a like a
what if episode of

538
00:21:03,128 --> 00:21:06,131
what if he didn't go on Voyager
and it's like, you know,

539
00:21:06,164 --> 00:21:07,466
oh, there's this coffee shop
with those who were like,

540
00:21:07,466 --> 00:21:11,937
there's coffee shops in in Starfleet,
you know, there's like all kinds of these.

541
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:13,739
It's like, oh, I didn't even think about
how people are like,

542
00:21:13,739 --> 00:21:15,073
oh, that guy's an artist.

543
00:21:15,073 --> 00:21:17,609
You're not on a ship somewhere
fighting Klingons or whatever.

544
00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:19,411
It looks like Klingons at that point.

545
00:21:19,411 --> 00:21:21,280
So yeah, that would be kind of cool
to kind of expand that.

546
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,882
Well, both in Star Trek,
because now I'm thinking about it.

547
00:21:23,882 --> 00:21:26,051
And here too. Yeah, yeah.

548
00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:28,787
And the last thing too is like,
I think Vikings was originally made

549
00:21:28,787 --> 00:21:29,688
for the History Channel.

550
00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:32,758
The second one was made for Netflix
is the first time that Amazon taking it.

551
00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:33,258
And Amazon

552
00:21:33,258 --> 00:21:37,029
has been leaning hard into fantasy,
The Rings of Power and Wheel of Time.

553
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:40,732
So they kind of are getting pretty good
at making those fight scenes and

554
00:21:40,832 --> 00:21:41,466
making them look good.

555
00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:47,773
Let's move forward.

556
00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:50,242
We're gonna be going into our discussion
segment for this one.

557
00:21:50,242 --> 00:21:53,779
And a discussion this week
is, the best and worst adaptations.

558
00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:56,281
And when does Hollywood
get it right or wrong?

559
00:21:56,281 --> 00:21:58,183
So first off, for this one,
we're going to be going over

560
00:21:58,183 --> 00:21:59,518
some of the good adaptations.

561
00:21:59,518 --> 00:22:00,686
We have some of the bad adaptations

562
00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:02,754
we have,
because it seems like it's something that

563
00:22:02,754 --> 00:22:04,456
I can't tell you how many times
I've told people like, oh, that's me.

564
00:22:04,456 --> 00:22:06,591
So comic book, I picked up a video game

565
00:22:06,591 --> 00:22:09,461
and it's getting better
and better in my opinion.

566
00:22:09,461 --> 00:22:12,331
What do you guys think
makes a good adaptation when it's

567
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:15,567
stick strictly to the source material,
or when they try to and reinvent it

568
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,835
and you think it.

569
00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:19,037
I think it,
I think it has to be reinvented.

570
00:22:19,037 --> 00:22:21,206
I think sticking to the source material,
you get the same thing

571
00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:23,241
on a different medium,
which doesn't always translate

572
00:22:23,241 --> 00:22:25,577
well if you take a comic book
and you're making it,

573
00:22:25,577 --> 00:22:29,014
you know, shot for shot in a live action,
you know, series,

574
00:22:29,214 --> 00:22:31,016
it just doesn't play the same.

575
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:33,819
It wasn't made for that,
you know, that medium.

576
00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:38,523
But I think also it's, largely based on
fan expectations from the source material,

577
00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:42,828
because if you make something
that is such a cult classic,

578
00:22:42,994 --> 00:22:45,630
like I'm going to say this thing
and it's going to sound like a sin

579
00:22:45,630 --> 00:22:48,300
if they were to remake back to the future
right now.

580
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:50,135
What a sin exactly.

581
00:22:50,135 --> 00:22:53,805
People would hate. It because that is,
everybody loves it so much that

582
00:22:53,805 --> 00:22:57,242
to remake it, you're going to inevitably
butcher it in some way, right?

583
00:22:57,776 --> 00:23:01,480
Like if you take, you know,
something that is so dear to people

584
00:23:01,813 --> 00:23:05,050
and do your best with it, it's still not
going to meet their expectations.

585
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,352
So the trick to me,

586
00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:11,690
I mean, and I'm nobody in the business
but to find something that is good

587
00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:16,695
but not thoroughly, like exploited or not,
you know, saturated in the market.

588
00:23:17,095 --> 00:23:18,029
For example,

589
00:23:18,029 --> 00:23:21,633
the first Iron Man movie was so good
because Iron Man was a comic book,

590
00:23:21,633 --> 00:23:24,770
but it wasn't like everybody's
talking about it all the time right now.

591
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:27,639
It wasn't a real big hit,
you know? It was just it was good.

592
00:23:27,639 --> 00:23:28,807
It was just one of them.

593
00:23:28,807 --> 00:23:31,977
But then, you know, when you do Superman,
you know, there's a little more judgment

594
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,414
around that
because he's a little more well known.

595
00:23:35,647 --> 00:23:38,617
So, yeah,
I think it to getting a source material

596
00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:41,787
that is adaptable
more than whether you adapt it or not.

597
00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:43,688
I think you have to adapt it,
but you have to get one

598
00:23:43,688 --> 00:23:47,926
that's easily adaptable without offending
everybody or making people go crazy.

599
00:23:48,293 --> 00:23:48,593
Yeah.

600
00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:50,796
I remember

601
00:23:50,796 --> 00:23:51,463
specifically with

602
00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:54,466
Iron Man being in a comic book shop
after the movie release and thinking like,

603
00:23:54,566 --> 00:23:57,502
this is like a new era
of what movie should look like.

604
00:23:57,502 --> 00:24:00,172
And there was some nerd.

605
00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:01,173
In there.

606
00:24:01,173 --> 00:24:03,742
Who was all like,
yeah, this is what Iron Man looks like.

607
00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:04,509
The comics I'm like.

608
00:24:04,509 --> 00:24:05,544
And I'm thinking to myself, like,

609
00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:08,447
I have never even open an Iron Man
comic book,

610
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,749
and this guy's worried about it
not being accurate.

611
00:24:10,749 --> 00:24:12,784
Who the hell knows
who Iron Man is? Exactly.

612
00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:14,586
But now everybody does. It.

613
00:24:14,586 --> 00:24:17,389
You know, like the comic book
had it wrong, but.

614
00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:18,990
Yeah. That's like going to the galaxy.

615
00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:20,826
Everybody, let's go to these Galaxy
movies.

616
00:24:20,826 --> 00:24:23,094
I would love to be
the person who had a Garbage Galaxy

617
00:24:23,094 --> 00:24:25,297
comic book before the movies came out.

618
00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:27,265
Yeah, I don't know anybody. Yeah.

619
00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:31,736
To, or throw a hat into this, so
I think a good reputation, obviously.

620
00:24:31,736 --> 00:24:34,906
And we've seen it, like really recent
and I'll name it shortly after.

621
00:24:34,906 --> 00:24:38,910
Is that they are pulling like
the beloved parts of what we love about

622
00:24:38,977 --> 00:24:42,414
like the source material,
but like doing their own thing with it

623
00:24:42,414 --> 00:24:44,249
doesn't have to be the same story,
because now

624
00:24:44,249 --> 00:24:46,318
we're just going to critique it
like crazy and movie.

625
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:47,419
I'm kind of like referencing, right?

626
00:24:47,419 --> 00:24:48,854
I guess I'm referencing right now

627
00:24:48,854 --> 00:24:51,223
is the Sonic movies
and how successful they have been.

628
00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:54,860
So the like, the Sonic, the characters
themself like to the T, right?

629
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:58,096
They're perfect
and like their origin part of it also.

630
00:24:58,296 --> 00:25:01,600
But then you got someone like funny
that can pull off the, Doctor Eggman.

631
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:06,705
Jim Carrey,
and it doesn't have to be the typical,

632
00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:09,441
yeah, they one of the costumes,
but it doesn't have to go

633
00:25:09,441 --> 00:25:12,344
the same route
like we usually see in a movie. So like,

634
00:25:13,311 --> 00:25:15,146
I mean, obviously they did that, right.

635
00:25:15,146 --> 00:25:17,415
And now we got three or what? Three?

636
00:25:17,415 --> 00:25:18,717
Now I'm about to lean on four

637
00:25:18,717 --> 00:25:20,285
now with the ending of three
that it explains,

638
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:22,854
like what
we're going to expect with number four.

639
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:23,121
Yeah.

640
00:25:23,121 --> 00:25:25,257
But then you have and I hate to say it

641
00:25:25,257 --> 00:25:27,359
because when I was little,
I used to watch this quite often.

642
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,661
The old or the Super Mario movie.

643
00:25:29,661 --> 00:25:31,596
Right. Super Mario Bros.

644
00:25:31,596 --> 00:25:33,265
I loved that, I loved it by the.

645
00:25:33,265 --> 00:25:34,232
Time I. Did.

646
00:25:34,232 --> 00:25:35,233
Yeah, but you.

647
00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:38,370
Got, like, like,
kind of like a confusing plot.

648
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:39,237
It could be at some,

649
00:25:39,237 --> 00:25:43,041
some points and then you have like, miss,
what do you call it, miss?

650
00:25:43,041 --> 00:25:45,043
Oh my God. Peach.

651
00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:47,479
Oh my gosh. No. Character cap miscast.

652
00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:50,815
Miscasting very different
than what it really, originally is.

653
00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:53,351
But again, it's a movie
that I kind of liked when I was little,

654
00:25:53,351 --> 00:25:55,754
but if we were to see it again,
we were like, what the fuck is this?

655
00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:59,090
And then compared to that masterpiece that
that, the animated movie that came out,

656
00:25:59,925 --> 00:26:02,761
then it's like, okay,
that that was perfect to me with Bowser.

657
00:26:03,795 --> 00:26:04,095
Okay.

658
00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:07,032
Oh, okay. Bowser always steals
peach, right? Like that's the thing.

659
00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:09,334
But did we ever get, like,
a love life story with him?

660
00:26:09,334 --> 00:26:12,604
So it's like, again, you're taking, like,
the best parts of what we love

661
00:26:12,604 --> 00:26:15,740
and bringing it over and then adding
something new to it where, like, now

662
00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:19,544
you got the Bowser song thing
in a page, like a hit, and that can't not.

663
00:26:19,544 --> 00:26:19,878
Right?

664
00:26:19,878 --> 00:26:22,714
So yeah, you got to throw a twist to it.

665
00:26:22,714 --> 00:26:25,717
But still I brilliant pull
the things that are beloved.

666
00:26:26,451 --> 00:26:30,922
I think that movie is a direct
like depiction of 90s movie studio.

667
00:26:30,956 --> 00:26:33,191
That was the style back then. It has.

668
00:26:33,191 --> 00:26:37,729
It's that with the, you know, a story from
a very underdeveloped game at the time.

669
00:26:37,729 --> 00:26:40,665
Now there's so much more Mario content.
It's been shaped a lot more.

670
00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:44,936
So the new one is definitely based
on newer Mario games and like,

671
00:26:45,971 --> 00:26:49,074
it's been very thoroughly adapted.

672
00:26:49,474 --> 00:26:53,044
Now, if we look at it from today,
it looks kind of like a steampunk movie.

673
00:26:53,044 --> 00:26:57,182
So if you were to retry, to remake it
as Mario, a steampunk type movie,

674
00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:58,383
that would fit a lot better.

675
00:26:58,383 --> 00:27:00,185
You could remake that version of it.

676
00:27:00,185 --> 00:27:03,755
But like I saying, like, there's
so much more Mario now that that was just

677
00:27:03,755 --> 00:27:07,459
based on like the NES, Mario,
I think, or maybe the N64, but yeah.

678
00:27:07,525 --> 00:27:09,961
Three was on the horizon
like it was in development.

679
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:12,764
I think that came out in 91.
So yeah, it was 93.

680
00:27:12,764 --> 00:27:15,934
But that's a really good example of them
just kind of ditching a lot

681
00:27:15,934 --> 00:27:18,136
of what they do know about Mario. Like,
we know what toad looks like.

682
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:18,970
He doesn't look like that.

683
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,071
We know it.

684
00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:24,109
And like, Bowser is not a dinosaur,
but they made him a dinosaur.

685
00:27:24,109 --> 00:27:24,909
Yeah, right.

686
00:27:24,909 --> 00:27:26,144
You know, so there was all kinds of thing

687
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:28,947
they took liberties with that,
I think turn away most fans.

688
00:27:28,947 --> 00:27:30,281
What's with the school in the city?

689
00:27:30,281 --> 00:27:31,916
Why are we in the city?

690
00:27:31,916 --> 00:27:34,252
So if like that, that was were
just totally

691
00:27:34,252 --> 00:27:37,555
now does it
stand alone as a fun romp outside of it?

692
00:27:37,555 --> 00:27:40,558
Like, I just watched that movie again
a couple years ago for Snoop podcast,

693
00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:44,295
and revisiting it is like,
this is nearly unwatchable.

694
00:27:44,295 --> 00:27:47,565
Actually, it's pretty bad
through the lens of being a kid.

695
00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:50,301
It was like, oh,
I don't have any other Mario content.

696
00:27:50,301 --> 00:27:50,869
I need this.

697
00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:51,970
But as an adult, you're watching.

698
00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:55,073
You're like, this is I mean, even
the acting is bad in this thing that John

699
00:27:55,073 --> 00:27:59,377
Leguizamo, who I think is amazing now,
but yeah, it is pretty awful.

700
00:27:59,611 --> 00:28:03,581
I want to throw my hat on on like,
the what makes a good adaptation

701
00:28:03,581 --> 00:28:07,385
is you take what is like
the heart of the reason we like it.

702
00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:08,186
Yeah. So,

703
00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:10,655
you know, The Last of Us, it's

704
00:28:10,655 --> 00:28:14,192
that survival and leaning on a father,
father and daughter relationship.

705
00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:15,427
Let's go back to the daddy.

706
00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:16,528
Which about daddy

707
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:18,730
is the idea that you live
in a fantasy world, but there's, like,

708
00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:22,100
this little wild, crazy stories in a band,
like a little party.

709
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,836
Like weird things happen. Fun
things happen in a little party.

710
00:28:24,836 --> 00:28:27,605
If you can pull that out, you can almost
change everything around it.

711
00:28:27,605 --> 00:28:31,276
And so for that Dungeons Dragons movie
where we're watching these two, that right

712
00:28:31,309 --> 00:28:34,312
on that one guy I remember like his name
was like Jonathan, but not Jonathan.

713
00:28:34,612 --> 00:28:37,048
They think he's going to be
talking about them and he's like writing.

714
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:37,916
He's a he's an echo.

715
00:28:37,916 --> 00:28:40,819
They write him outside the window
and it's like we're going to part of you.

716
00:28:40,819 --> 00:28:42,754
You know, it's like such a classic thing.

717
00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:44,255
And as a DM, there's so many times

718
00:28:44,255 --> 00:28:46,658
where I'm like, guys,
if you guys waited for like two seconds,

719
00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:47,826
you would have heard you're fine.

720
00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:49,594
But instead, Daniel's
crashing through a window

721
00:28:49,594 --> 00:28:50,895
because he thinks it's going to look cool.

722
00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:52,163
And he rolled good on a dice.

723
00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:55,533
That that pulled at the heart
of what makes Dungeons and Dragons good.

724
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:57,035
And then, like,
wrapped everything else around it.

725
00:28:57,035 --> 00:28:59,604
So if you can nail that, you're good.

726
00:28:59,604 --> 00:29:00,705
Like Game of Thrones.

727
00:29:00,705 --> 00:29:03,875
If you can nail the political drama that's
really good in the books, there it is.

728
00:29:04,008 --> 00:29:07,779
So many times they forget that, like the
avatar movie that came out in like 2010.

729
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:09,848
First off, you changed anything.

730
00:29:09,848 --> 00:29:11,816
There was no
absolutely no reason for that.

731
00:29:11,816 --> 00:29:13,818
And then there's like,
you guys don't have any of the whimsy

732
00:29:13,818 --> 00:29:15,720
or the heart
that's in this thing that makes us love it

733
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,890
instead of just showing things, bending
it made no sense.

734
00:29:19,023 --> 00:29:20,925
Yeah. Do you think there's too much?

735
00:29:20,925 --> 00:29:22,827
So you brought up Last of Us.

736
00:29:22,827 --> 00:29:24,696
Do you think there's
too much of a copy and paste?

737
00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:26,664
Because I feel like a lot.

738
00:29:26,664 --> 00:29:28,199
Okay. So I'm going to compare it to.

739
00:29:28,199 --> 00:29:30,535
So Last of Us just really felt like
the video game adaptation.

740
00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:32,804
And I feel like there was too much
that was really added.

741
00:29:32,804 --> 00:29:36,074
But you had wicked, which was pulled
from the obviously the play,

742
00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:39,244
but the movie brought like,
okay, now we have more dialog in between

743
00:29:39,244 --> 00:29:39,677
the characters.

744
00:29:39,677 --> 00:29:41,613
We could kind of fall in love
with the characters a little bit more.

745
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,248
Yeah,
they're building more of a relationship

746
00:29:43,248 --> 00:29:46,484
because they're conversating instead of
just like, singing songs, whatnot.

747
00:29:46,985 --> 00:29:48,386
Do you feel like there's too much,

748
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:49,687
like they need to break down a little bit,
you think?

749
00:29:49,687 --> 00:29:51,656
Last one, I should maybe add
a little something to it.

750
00:29:51,656 --> 00:29:54,659
Or are fans just going to be pissed off
and upset about it?

751
00:29:54,959 --> 00:29:56,761
When I think about that,
I think about Lion King a lot.

752
00:29:56,761 --> 00:29:58,296
When they did a live action
Lion King movie,

753
00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:02,133
the first one, our complaint was that
it was too much like the story was too

754
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:03,601
much like the regular movie.

755
00:30:03,601 --> 00:30:04,469
What a shot for shot.

756
00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:07,305
Yeah, but but if it wasn't,
we would complain about that too. Exactly.

757
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,107
And so I think for The Last of Us,
there's a lot of people

758
00:30:09,107 --> 00:30:12,243
who don't know about that game at all,
and they are being woken up to this

759
00:30:12,243 --> 00:30:13,645
amazing story. Yeah, okay.

760
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:17,081
But for wicked, there were a lot of things
that, by the original medium

761
00:30:17,515 --> 00:30:20,618
being a play, being a musical
that they probably didn't have the ability

762
00:30:20,618 --> 00:30:21,986
to show a lot of dialog.

763
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:24,656
And what is it that I said beforehand
and it pulls at the heart?

764
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:27,625
What is it that relationship
between the rich girl and or the,

765
00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:29,861
you know, like the famous popular
girl, whatever.

766
00:30:29,861 --> 00:30:32,964
And then the outcast being pulled
out and put on a screen.

767
00:30:34,065 --> 00:30:34,566
Yeah.

768
00:30:34,566 --> 00:30:35,200
There. Yeah.

769
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:35,700
You know what I'm saying?

770
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,703
Like, like that kind of like dichotomy,
the Mean Girls aspect of it.

771
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:41,840
That being amplified,
I think is a good movie is, damn it,

772
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,843
it's really I'm actually looking forward
to we could part two.

773
00:30:46,044 --> 00:30:46,878
If you need to know.

774
00:30:46,878 --> 00:30:49,747
I know I just saw the play, so I did.

775
00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:49,948
Really?

776
00:30:49,948 --> 00:30:52,951
I can tell you all the spoilers.

777
00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:55,553
So let's go ahead

778
00:30:55,553 --> 00:30:58,556
and look at a couple of successful,

779
00:30:58,990 --> 00:31:01,759
adaptations, and then we're gonna look
at some of their bad.

780
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,361
I'll start us off
on, on a really great one.

781
00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:05,263
I think the Lord of the rings trilogy.

782
00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:07,532
Yeah. You just can't do better at that.

783
00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:10,602
I think it's as faithful
as you possibly can be.

784
00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:14,372
There are things where I think
an adaptation knows it like that won't

785
00:31:14,405 --> 00:31:15,039
translate well.

786
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,274
So, like Tom Bombadil,

787
00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:19,143
a lot of people complain, like,
why is Tom Bombadil not in this?

788
00:31:19,143 --> 00:31:21,045
I don't think he would have done
well in this way.

789
00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:24,048
First off, you breaks up the story pretty,
pretty wildly,

790
00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:29,220
and he's kind of a whimsical, floating
like a cute character from Star Trek,

791
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,258
so he wouldn't fit well with this like,
large saga we're setting up in the books.

792
00:31:33,258 --> 00:31:35,093
You have time to breathe with that.

793
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:36,961
But in the movie you did, and I think.

794
00:31:36,961 --> 00:31:38,129
Overall.

795
00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:42,567
Perfect adaptation, probably the best one
I did like, because every argument.

796
00:31:43,268 --> 00:31:46,137
It's so good that you assume,
like the Lord of the rings was,

797
00:31:46,137 --> 00:31:48,439
was a movie first, you know?

798
00:31:48,439 --> 00:31:50,675
Yeah, yeah. A lot of ways. Yeah. Man.

799
00:31:50,675 --> 00:31:54,545
No, I said, I yeah,
I thought minority like Sonic was perfect.

800
00:31:55,046 --> 00:31:56,714
To. Me it was. Like.

801
00:31:56,714 --> 00:31:58,116
It was great. So. Yeah, I'm.

802
00:31:58,116 --> 00:31:59,684
I'm surprised
you're not mentioning Harry Potter.

803
00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:00,885
Oh my goodness. Yeah.

804
00:32:00,885 --> 00:32:02,587
Because I was wait for that one. Yeah. I

805
00:32:03,721 --> 00:32:04,155
ask about it.

806
00:32:04,155 --> 00:32:06,557
I think it's the best one. Best version.

807
00:32:06,557 --> 00:32:08,559
Yeah I know, yeah.

808
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,295
The things that they took away from
the books in

809
00:32:10,295 --> 00:32:12,497
the movies were like kind of like,
I don't care, right?

810
00:32:12,497 --> 00:32:15,333
I think I said it before in the first one
there was like a specific ghost.

811
00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:16,935
They cast the ghost,
they did all the work.

812
00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,736
The actor was upset
that he wasn't in the movie.

813
00:32:18,736 --> 00:32:19,671
But then when you read it, like

814
00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:22,407
from the book into the movie,
like I can see him gone.

815
00:32:22,407 --> 00:32:23,775
So maybe it was the right decision.

816
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,877
There's a second Quidditch
game in the book.

817
00:32:25,877 --> 00:32:27,445
Felt extremely rushed.

818
00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:28,913
Maybe we didn't need it,
so they didn't do it.

819
00:32:28,913 --> 00:32:31,916
And I felt like, yeah,
I felt like the things that they took away

820
00:32:31,916 --> 00:32:33,518
from the book to the movie were perfect.

821
00:32:33,518 --> 00:32:36,321
And it just smart decisions that you don't
have to pull everything, you know?

822
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:38,423
With Prisoner of

823
00:32:38,423 --> 00:32:41,426
Azkaban, they changed
how the reveal happens, right?

824
00:32:41,926 --> 00:32:44,929
With, the mouse or with the rat being,
everything is.

825
00:32:45,096 --> 00:32:48,099
Yeah. What was it, though?
Do you remember.

826
00:32:48,099 --> 00:32:48,967
The. Yeah. They changed.

827
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:51,602
I think they changed the reveal
to where it happened before him.

828
00:32:51,602 --> 00:32:54,605
But you weren't like it wasn't Harry
being surprised in that moment.

829
00:32:54,739 --> 00:32:57,742
And so it was like, well, they're making
it more cinematic in the movie, too.

830
00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,812
It's like a surprise
for both us and Harry at the same time.

831
00:33:01,012 --> 00:33:02,046
I think that was a good move.

832
00:33:02,046 --> 00:33:04,115
Like, I kind of just that you needed that.

833
00:33:04,115 --> 00:33:04,916
And then the way the time

834
00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:07,218
turn, the situation worked,
I thought was shot perfectly.

835
00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:09,354
But that's my favorite of the Harry Potter
movies.

836
00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:10,421
Yeah. Yeah.

837
00:33:10,421 --> 00:33:11,222
It's almost

838
00:33:11,222 --> 00:33:14,592
it's almost like the stuff that they took
away were right decisions, you know.

839
00:33:15,026 --> 00:33:16,127
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

840
00:33:17,462 --> 00:33:18,830
I'll give
you another really good one for me.

841
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,898
Oh, sorry. You got one? No. Good. No.

842
00:33:20,898 --> 00:33:21,933
Game of Thrones, of course.

843
00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:23,935
Is, Yeah.

844
00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:25,336
Yep. Everything. Everything.

845
00:33:25,336 --> 00:33:27,338
Game of Thrones has been good so far. No
complaints.

846
00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:29,440
But, like,
I remember you reading the books too.

847
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,576
And you would tell me chapter by chapter
kind of how

848
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:34,645
what was going on in the story and stuff
and then us watching it together do.

849
00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:36,280
It's like there's I know

850
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,283
there's a lot that, you know,
probably didn't make it on screen.

851
00:33:40,184 --> 00:33:43,821
But yeah, it takes that kind of
changing things to fit better.

852
00:33:43,988 --> 00:33:48,159
Like, I mean, they did cut out some
really good stuff, but it's like, Katlin,

853
00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:52,397
that being, beheaded
and then resurrected with, Lady Stoneheart

854
00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:54,599
and a big, big cut on her neck.

855
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,435
And so it's like, that looks really cool.

856
00:33:57,435 --> 00:34:00,038
And visually that would look that would
that would be great for us.

857
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:05,076
And it's such a great, like, elevates
the story and puts so much more investment

858
00:34:05,076 --> 00:34:05,943
in that character.

859
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:09,447
But for the mainstream audience,
that's trying, that's just

860
00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:13,484
tiptoeing into this whole fantasy world
that might be a little bit past

861
00:34:13,484 --> 00:34:15,653
their their limit,
maybe pushing past the edge.

862
00:34:15,653 --> 00:34:17,622
So I think that's why
they had to dial back.

863
00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:19,991
They had to take the tops off
of some of the story.

864
00:34:19,991 --> 00:34:21,426
That was a little too out there.

865
00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:22,226
Rein it in a little bit

866
00:34:22,226 --> 00:34:27,098
so that the average, audience member
could, you know, enjoy it as well.

867
00:34:27,098 --> 00:34:28,733
And make it a little more mainstream.

868
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:30,535
Yeah. It's hard to like Lady Stoneheart

869
00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:32,136
literally a zombie
that had to hold her neck.

870
00:34:32,136 --> 00:34:33,037
She could speak.

871
00:34:33,037 --> 00:34:35,606
And I remember so well, we were wondering,
are they going to bring her in?

872
00:34:35,606 --> 00:34:37,108
The actress,

873
00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:41,212
on a whim, posted on her Instagram, like
a picture of rocks shaped into a heart

874
00:34:41,546 --> 00:34:43,581
just because she's like,
oh, look, it's heart shaped rocks.

875
00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:46,050
Whatever
she thought is cute. Holy cow. You don't.

876
00:34:51,289 --> 00:34:53,091
The amount was subtly disgusting.

877
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:56,127
Like, there's 14 hearts, there's 14 rocks
that there's that there's going to be

878
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,796
these people that are going to be here.
And then it was like, oh, you messed up.

879
00:34:58,796 --> 00:35:03,935
And then that in February, February of 90,
whatever, she was sent a picture of her,

880
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,971
like holding her neck, like, oh my God,
that must have been giving us a hint.

881
00:35:07,405 --> 00:35:10,241
No, she just likes to be choked back.

882
00:35:10,241 --> 00:35:12,210
You. I think.

883
00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:14,445
Yeah. Right.

884
00:35:14,445 --> 00:35:16,214
Rick in, In the books.

885
00:35:16,214 --> 00:35:18,449
Wild is that he's actually on the island.

886
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:19,617
Escargots.

887
00:35:19,617 --> 00:35:23,087
It's an island with cannibals
that ride on unicorns.

888
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,491
And it's like you can't. Show that on TV.

889
00:35:26,491 --> 00:35:29,460
That's so silly. A little too much. Yeah.

890
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:32,730
But there are, like, White Harbor, I think
it's so freaking cool in the books,

891
00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:35,766
but it's just something you didn't
have time for in the, in the, in the show.

892
00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:36,767
That's like this.

893
00:35:36,767 --> 00:35:38,936
Like, oh, what about the Lannisters
of the North guys?

894
00:35:38,936 --> 00:35:40,505
Like, where's the North's money?

895
00:35:40,505 --> 00:35:41,739
They have their own version
of the Lannisters.

896
00:35:41,739 --> 00:35:42,573
They're from White Harbor.

897
00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:46,744
The merrily, merrily, I think it's called,
And they'll they'll work

898
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:50,148
with the Lannisters just to screw them
over and funnel money to the Starks.

899
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:51,516
Like they're really cool family.

900
00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:52,917
And I really wish they showed it

901
00:35:52,917 --> 00:35:55,686
more like they had, like,
this one place that, like, literally,

902
00:35:55,686 --> 00:35:58,823
they kind of keep as a prestige area
where the king one time came,

903
00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:02,059
the king of the North came one time,
like swears frailty to them.

904
00:36:02,059 --> 00:36:03,995
And they look at the Starks
as like brothers.

905
00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:05,863
And it's such a cool story.

906
00:36:05,863 --> 00:36:08,533
And they are the rich family,
of the area. So.

907
00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:11,002
But that's something you just can't
you don't have time in the show.

908
00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:12,904
Who is the the Ironborn?

909
00:36:12,904 --> 00:36:16,207
I think Prince or King who I think is,
very and or something like that,

910
00:36:16,274 --> 00:36:17,542
who would wear a full suit of armor

911
00:36:17,542 --> 00:36:20,077
and would jump from ship to ship
and fight and armor.

912
00:36:20,077 --> 00:36:23,381
But, you know, if he falls between
the ships, he's gonna drown.

913
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:24,649
I was like, damn that.

914
00:36:24,649 --> 00:36:26,450
That's such a cool. Character
to what I love, too.

915
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:28,419
Is his brother
the one that we do get in the show?

916
00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:30,488
The the whole subplot
between the two of them

917
00:36:30,488 --> 00:36:32,690
is that he hates him so much
because he stole his wife,

918
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:34,725
and it's specifically told in the books.

919
00:36:34,725 --> 00:36:37,862
East, who took his wife because he has
a bigger dick for them. It's

920
00:36:39,463 --> 00:36:40,231
that's the whole.

921
00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:43,267
Thing, is that he's like, this fierce war
that jumps from ship to ship and blah,

922
00:36:43,267 --> 00:36:46,170
blah, blah, blah, blah.
But man, I'm not packing a lot of heat.

923
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:48,873
Okay?

924
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:51,876
Brother, I understand.

925
00:36:54,412 --> 00:36:56,681
The one more I want to add to
this is the Dark Knight

926
00:36:56,681 --> 00:37:00,084
trilogy, because they were like,
hey, we've done Batman to hell.

927
00:37:00,084 --> 00:37:00,851
How are we going to change it up?

928
00:37:00,851 --> 00:37:03,788
First of all, yeah, Christopher Nolan,
you get a good director first.

929
00:37:03,788 --> 00:37:06,791
And they made
this kind of believable world.

930
00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:09,393
Even when Bane's blowing up the stadium,
you're kind of like.

931
00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:10,328
I mean, yeah, if you.

932
00:37:10,328 --> 00:37:11,362
If you're Bane, that makes sense.

933
00:37:11,362 --> 00:37:13,631
With Bane being in this world
kind of makes sense.

934
00:37:13,631 --> 00:37:15,967
How do you make Joker seem so believable?

935
00:37:15,967 --> 00:37:18,269
Yeah,
this joker seems somewhat believable.

936
00:37:18,269 --> 00:37:21,672
And I think that they took an adaptation
from the comics.

937
00:37:21,672 --> 00:37:24,775
Like, they pulled it obviously,
from a lot of the earlier years

938
00:37:24,775 --> 00:37:27,411
from not necessarily year one,
but kind of the earlier stuff.

939
00:37:27,411 --> 00:37:32,550
And they made a Batman that I think is so
the gold standard that all other Batman's

940
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:36,287
now I compared to the Christopher Nolan,
Christian Bale Batman in my opinion.

941
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,690
And they had all kind of source material
and they cherry picked

942
00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:43,894
just the things that work well,
and they built on it too.

943
00:37:43,894 --> 00:37:47,131
I can't imagine somebody looking at Dark
Knight and thinking.

944
00:37:47,531 --> 00:37:48,699
Oh, no, know.

945
00:37:48,699 --> 00:37:52,536
I think I like,
you know, the Batman looks better, right?

946
00:37:52,536 --> 00:37:55,206
Oh, yeah. I really like nipples on
my suit, actually.

947
00:37:55,206 --> 00:37:55,539
You know,

948
00:37:56,974 --> 00:37:58,976
they're so useful.

949
00:37:58,976 --> 00:38:00,244
Yeah.

950
00:38:00,244 --> 00:38:03,247
I mean, at least
if they were little intended or something,

951
00:38:03,447 --> 00:38:04,849
they write that into the book.

952
00:38:04,849 --> 00:38:07,118
The more
so one of the things we're pulling,

953
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:07,818
we we didn't mention it

954
00:38:07,818 --> 00:38:11,455
beforehand, as much, but now it's
we're looking at some of our favorites.

955
00:38:11,856 --> 00:38:15,092
It sounds like one of the things
that makes a good adaptation is removing

956
00:38:15,092 --> 00:38:18,095
things from the source material
and adding things to improve it.

957
00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:21,465
Looking at the bad adaptations
that we could think of,

958
00:38:21,666 --> 00:38:24,468
let's keep that in mind
and I'll go with The Hobbit trilogy.

959
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:25,970
I started
with the Lord of the rings trilogy.

960
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,938
Oh man, I think a bad adaptation
is The Hobbit trilogy.

961
00:38:27,938 --> 00:38:31,842
Not that I didn't enjoy it,
but they were so worried about

962
00:38:31,842 --> 00:38:35,746
packing in as much content as possible
to make three movies out of a very short.

963
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,215
I mean, it's like not a long book I read.

964
00:38:38,215 --> 00:38:40,017
I read the books
and that saying something.

965
00:38:40,017 --> 00:38:42,119
Yeah,
you both did before the movie came out,

966
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,056
and it was originally gonna be two movies,
and they made it three movies.

967
00:38:45,056 --> 00:38:48,492
And when you're watching that,
you're just like, why are we don't need

968
00:38:48,492 --> 00:38:50,561
all this extra stuff?
It doesn't make any sense.

969
00:38:50,561 --> 00:38:53,397
And I think that they were so adamant
about adding things in so much

970
00:38:53,397 --> 00:38:56,767
that they lost a lot of what made
the source material super good,

971
00:38:57,034 --> 00:38:58,302
which is this kind of fast pace.

972
00:38:58,302 --> 00:39:01,305
Each chapter has a beginning,
an end to the story.

973
00:39:01,505 --> 00:39:04,508
It was really meant to be like,
read to your kids chapter at a time.

974
00:39:04,542 --> 00:39:07,845
And they they kind of just decimated that
by making this big grand story

975
00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:11,682
that felt, you know, like a blob
that was kind of just misshapen

976
00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:14,251
and moving in one direction.
It wasn't really that great.

977
00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:15,953
And so I think
The Hobbit was a bad trilogy,

978
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,522
but you guys got.

979
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:21,592
I got a shitty, Street
Fighter movie, back in 2009,

980
00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:25,062
I don't know, hopefully that's like,
you know,

981
00:39:25,162 --> 00:39:25,963
done properly.

982
00:39:25,963 --> 00:39:28,065
The last, Street Fighter
we were talking about.

983
00:39:28,065 --> 00:39:31,335
Yeah, but,
yeah, like, oh, my God, acting's horrible.

984
00:39:31,335 --> 00:39:32,970
The plot was garbage.

985
00:39:32,970 --> 00:39:34,839
Yeah. Characters were not even, like,
faithful.

986
00:39:34,839 --> 00:39:37,641
It felt like it is just like,
what was even the point of this?

987
00:39:37,641 --> 00:39:40,478
So this is what forced people away from

988
00:39:40,478 --> 00:39:43,647
wanting to even, like, spend money
on these type of, yeah, you're ruining.

989
00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:46,384
I rather just go back home and play Street
Fighter six and make my own life.

990
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:49,520
And it was nothing like the original game
or like that,

991
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,722
or any of the fun of the game. No,
not at all.

992
00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:53,157
Not at all. Yeah.

993
00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:55,159
Don't want to ever see this shit again.

994
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,562
So it was hard for me going,
trying to find bad adaptations,

995
00:39:58,562 --> 00:40:00,264
because if it looks bad,
I just don't watch it.

996
00:40:00,264 --> 00:40:04,335
And that's the case for almost like,
all of them that people had negative

997
00:40:04,335 --> 00:40:06,303
reviews, like. Well,
I can't really talk too much about that.

998
00:40:06,303 --> 00:40:08,406
I never seen it.
But I'm jealous of you anyways.

999
00:40:09,874 --> 00:40:11,275
Okay.

1000
00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:14,945
I don't think I saw the Assassin's
Creed movies from 2016.

1001
00:40:14,945 --> 00:40:17,148
But I heard that
that was one of them, too.

1002
00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:18,582
It's like, it looks familiar.

1003
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:21,085
I remember it had, a certain actor,
I wonder.

1004
00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:21,919
Yeah. There we. Go.

1005
00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:22,787
You're probably him.

1006
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:25,055
Yeah, yeah,

1007
00:40:25,055 --> 00:40:25,489
I saw it.

1008
00:40:25,489 --> 00:40:26,557
And, you know.

1009
00:40:26,557 --> 00:40:29,059
It's still a shitty movie.
The second time.

1010
00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:30,694
The giver. I remember reading the book.

1011
00:40:30,694 --> 00:40:31,429
I never watched the movie.

1012
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:32,563
And, Ender's Game.

1013
00:40:32,563 --> 00:40:33,731
Also, I read the book in school,

1014
00:40:33,731 --> 00:40:36,734
and I didn't watch the movie,
but those were both reviewed as bad.

1015
00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:39,870
I will defend the Ender's Game movie
as much as I possibly can,

1016
00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:42,873
because that is a hell of a hard story
to pitch.

1017
00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:45,910
And, especially when you get to like
the sequel books to that.

1018
00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:49,113
But I will say that at the end of that,
they still kind of land

1019
00:40:49,113 --> 00:40:52,450
the point that it was bad
that he was good at killing these bugs.

1020
00:40:53,551 --> 00:40:56,587
I remember I showed that movie to Daniel,
who was like, what is this?

1021
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,622
You know, I'm like, yeah,
I watch it. It's a good story.

1022
00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:01,659
And by the end
he walked away with like a changed soul.

1023
00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:04,628
I was like, just like.

1024
00:41:04,628 --> 00:41:06,197
But he was like. He was like, wow.

1025
00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:07,164
So he was a bad guy.

1026
00:41:07,164 --> 00:41:10,167
And like, the nation was a bad guy.

1027
00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:12,837
And he is becoming
a guy who is of like leading them.

1028
00:41:12,837 --> 00:41:14,939
But yeah, I think it was that bad.

1029
00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:16,273
But Ender's Game is kind of a tough one.

1030
00:41:16,273 --> 00:41:19,276
You know, that actually deserves
to be adapted into a show, not a movie

1031
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:21,245
that we could really let
the characters breathe.

1032
00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:24,515
I think we're seeing a lot more success
in making a series out of something

1033
00:41:24,515 --> 00:41:25,616
than just a movie.

1034
00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:28,118
Because a movie is so compact,
you have to hurry up and fit it in.

1035
00:41:28,118 --> 00:41:30,254
And two hours, you know, maybe three max.

1036
00:41:30,254 --> 00:41:34,024
But it doesn't give you the
the growth and character development stuff

1037
00:41:34,024 --> 00:41:38,295
that we love seeing now in even a mini
series of eight episodes or six episodes.

1038
00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:39,363
Yeah. Oh.

1039
00:41:39,363 --> 00:41:42,099
But the show that I really want
to talk about, I love the show,

1040
00:41:42,099 --> 00:41:44,869
but fans had a lot of complaints about it
because it wasn't

1041
00:41:44,869 --> 00:41:46,504
close enough to the source material.

1042
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:47,972
And that's Halo.

1043
00:41:47,972 --> 00:41:51,909
We watched and talked about Halo
a lot in here and is such a good to me.

1044
00:41:51,909 --> 00:41:56,914
It looked especially visually so accurate,
and I think the biggest thing

1045
00:41:56,914 --> 00:41:58,282
the fans didn't like

1046
00:41:58,282 --> 00:42:01,318
is that the story didn't follow
what they're expecting from the game,

1047
00:42:01,485 --> 00:42:03,721
and especially with that,
that one character,

1048
00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:06,724
the girl that it kind of deviated
and followed her more.

1049
00:42:06,891 --> 00:42:08,926
Yeah. Master Chief taken off his helmet.

1050
00:42:08,926 --> 00:42:10,494
So much and stuff,
it's like, okay, there's

1051
00:42:10,494 --> 00:42:13,063
I understand that a lot of the complaints,
but it's mostly

1052
00:42:13,063 --> 00:42:16,100
just not sticking to the game
closely enough.

1053
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:18,402
I think it pulled a lot from the books.

1054
00:42:18,402 --> 00:42:21,005
And unfortunately,

1055
00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:24,475
I think that show would have done a lot
better if it just wasn't called Halo.

1056
00:42:24,808 --> 00:42:26,443
It was just something else.

1057
00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:26,610
Well,

1058
00:42:26,610 --> 00:42:30,214
not about Halo, like the show actually,
I think was had a pretty good production.

1059
00:42:30,681 --> 00:42:30,981
If it was a.

1060
00:42:30,981 --> 00:42:33,918
Starship, Starship trooper, branch off.

1061
00:42:33,918 --> 00:42:34,552
Yeah, that's.

1062
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:35,553
Well, that's another good.

1063
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,521
Oh, God,
that's a great adaptation, actually.

1064
00:42:37,521 --> 00:42:40,357
No, you're bringing it up
because the like.

1065
00:42:40,357 --> 00:42:42,860
Yeah,
it really like, fixes the book actually,

1066
00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:45,095
because the book's message is a little bit
wonky. Anyways.

1067
00:42:45,095 --> 00:42:46,931
But yeah, the Halo series,

1068
00:42:46,931 --> 00:42:49,667
as much as we love Paramount around here,
thank you for the sponsorship.

1069
00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:52,336
The Halo series was a real misstep.

1070
00:42:52,336 --> 00:42:53,103
Before.

1071
00:42:53,103 --> 00:42:54,271
Like,

1072
00:42:54,271 --> 00:42:55,573
you know, mean like ten years ago

1073
00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:57,074
when you said
there's gonna be a video game adaptation.

1074
00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:58,809
That was bad news, was going to be bad.

1075
00:42:58,809 --> 00:43:00,878
I think the horror movie
had a lot to do with that.

1076
00:43:00,878 --> 00:43:03,314
Why are video game adaptations
working now?

1077
00:43:03,314 --> 00:43:06,317
The Last of Us
and like the Detective Pikachu

1078
00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:08,185
movie, stuff like that,
why are they working now?

1079
00:43:08,185 --> 00:43:09,286
They didn't before.

1080
00:43:09,286 --> 00:43:11,889
I think because at least one of them
at some point was successful.

1081
00:43:11,889 --> 00:43:13,924
So they decided
they can put money behind it.

1082
00:43:13,924 --> 00:43:19,063
Because movie adaptations used to be
the made for TV sci fi channel garbage,

1083
00:43:19,063 --> 00:43:23,267
and now they're actually okay,
let's put 50 million or $100 million

1084
00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:27,004
behind it because it's recognizable
and we've seen it pays off before.

1085
00:43:27,004 --> 00:43:30,007
So it's worth
the investment in most cases.

1086
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:30,474
Yeah.

1087
00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:31,675
And I think one of the big highlights

1088
00:43:31,675 --> 00:43:34,778
is that they pull people
who actually see why the game worked.

1089
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:36,180
So for,

1090
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:39,883
The Last of Us, they have the game creator
in the development team for that show.

1091
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:42,386
So he obviously knows
what it's supposed to be like.

1092
00:43:42,386 --> 00:43:44,788
And you know, other things too.

1093
00:43:44,788 --> 00:43:46,557
I'm not necessarily
pulling anything specific.

1094
00:43:46,557 --> 00:43:49,393
But if we look at the detective Pikachu
one, what?

1095
00:43:49,393 --> 00:43:51,662
Clearly
they got a bunch of younger audiences

1096
00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:54,665
that grew up or,
they grew up on Pokemon games to make it.

1097
00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,067
Nobody grew up on Mario.

1098
00:43:57,067 --> 00:43:59,536
That made the Mario movie,
because that's impossible.

1099
00:43:59,536 --> 00:44:02,406
But you could tell that's the case for the
The Pokemon movie.

1100
00:44:02,406 --> 00:44:03,774
Like, oh, it's the whimsy, it's the world.

1101
00:44:03,774 --> 00:44:07,077
The idea that you can be walking
and seeing a Cubone on a field.

1102
00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:10,180
Is is. Almost the magic alone.

1103
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:11,815
You didn't really need to change too much
after that.

1104
00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:12,549
That was pretty.

1105
00:44:12,549 --> 00:44:14,952
Big when you mentioned it
to Detective Pikachu,

1106
00:44:14,952 --> 00:44:16,587
because it was on my honorable mentions
list.

1107
00:44:16,587 --> 00:44:19,323
Also, Tron is, another one
I didn't talk about, but.

1108
00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:21,025
Yeah. I to give me a chance.

1109
00:44:21,025 --> 00:44:22,626
I love that movie.

1110
00:44:22,626 --> 00:44:25,095
Not in a dance station though
series. Right.

1111
00:44:25,095 --> 00:44:27,131
And they're working on more.
They're working at different areas.

1112
00:44:27,131 --> 00:44:28,799
Is coming up this year.

1113
00:44:28,799 --> 00:44:30,668
It, was just referring.

1114
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:31,435
It's not a series.

1115
00:44:31,435 --> 00:44:34,438
No, it's not an adaptation. It was. A.

1116
00:44:34,838 --> 00:44:36,807
But yeah,
I guess it's the same, same medium.

1117
00:44:36,807 --> 00:44:37,808
It's just a reboot or.

1118
00:44:37,808 --> 00:44:40,077
Re retell like a number two. Right.

1119
00:44:40,077 --> 00:44:42,746
And yeah, it's a sequel
because it's the same actors.

1120
00:44:42,746 --> 00:44:44,615
Jeff Bridges comes forward
from the old one.

1121
00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:46,650
Yeah,
but I mean, there was a Tron in the 80s.

1122
00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:48,485
That's
what I mean is this Tron is based off of.

1123
00:44:48,485 --> 00:44:51,055
Yeah, yeah, I think it's more of
a. It's a sequel to the 80s one.

1124
00:44:51,055 --> 00:44:54,792
They're Tron Legacy is a sequel to the 80s
and the Tron areas.

1125
00:44:54,792 --> 00:44:57,795
I just wish it wasn't Jared Leto, but

1126
00:44:57,995 --> 00:45:00,998
because he has,
this will not satisfy his club.

1127
00:45:01,331 --> 00:45:02,700
Redefined his career. A lot of fans.

1128
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,069
I hope so. I'll start over. Come on.

1129
00:45:05,069 --> 00:45:06,637
But I'm just so happy to have more Tron
back.

1130
00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:09,473
It's like one of those things
where we'll be shouting from the mic.

1131
00:45:09,473 --> 00:45:13,377
I know Dan is gonna preorder his ticket,
but, the idea that they get into all world

1132
00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:16,580
and then just seeing that, like light
cycle cut a cop car, I'm like, all right,

1133
00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:17,715
you guys.

1134
00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:18,816
Yeah.

1135
00:45:18,816 --> 00:45:20,918
Man, be cool.

1136
00:45:20,918 --> 00:45:21,418
So, yeah.

1137
00:45:21,418 --> 00:45:23,220
Go ahead, hit up our social media guys.

1138
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,289
Let us know your guys's
favorite adaptations.

1139
00:45:25,289 --> 00:45:28,325
Or worst adaptations
and why you think they're working now.

1140
00:45:28,325 --> 00:45:29,760
And they did beforehand.

1141
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,794
I really like this discussion.

1142
00:45:30,794 --> 00:45:32,930
We try to we're going to try to do some
more of these discussions going forward,

1143
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:34,965
because I know that they're making YouTube
videos

1144
00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:37,067
and it's just,
you know, on a slow news day.

1145
00:45:37,067 --> 00:45:38,268
It's for this group.

1146
00:45:40,404 --> 00:45:42,106
We're going to be shifting over
to our watchlist.

1147
00:45:42,106 --> 00:45:43,640
Jonathan, why don't you lead the way?

1148
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,309
What are we watching this March.

1149
00:45:45,309 --> 00:45:48,645
All right, so if you guys I'm
still catching up on Daredevil,

1150
00:45:48,645 --> 00:45:49,313
so don't hate me.

1151
00:45:49,313 --> 00:45:51,949
But Daredevil Born Again is out,
so you guys should be watching that.

1152
00:45:51,949 --> 00:45:55,219
If you haven't watched previous Daredevil,
get caught up with me.

1153
00:45:55,652 --> 00:45:56,787
Also, survivor's back on.

1154
00:45:56,787 --> 00:46:00,591
So we're watching survivor,
which is, you know, season 48 already.

1155
00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:01,225
Such good show.

1156
00:46:01,225 --> 00:46:03,794
Damn. That's crazy 48. Movies, though.

1157
00:46:03,794 --> 00:46:07,030
I just watched a movie
called The Gorge on Apple TV.

1158
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:07,865
I believe it was.

1159
00:46:07,865 --> 00:46:09,066
It came out, in February.

1160
00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:11,135
But, you know, it's really good.

1161
00:46:11,135 --> 00:46:12,736
It's already out
now, so you don't have to wait.

1162
00:46:12,736 --> 00:46:15,739
So if you haven't watched it yet,
watch that one.

1163
00:46:15,806 --> 00:46:19,276
Then we have the Snow
White movie, is coming out this month.

1164
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:20,644
Are you guys going to see that?

1165
00:46:20,644 --> 00:46:22,780
I am, I'm
going to watch it as a hate watch.

1166
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:25,783
I plan on going in
and throwing popcorn at that screen.

1167
00:46:26,250 --> 00:46:27,050
But I do.

1168
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:28,218
I'm going to go watch another movie,

1169
00:46:28,218 --> 00:46:30,521
but I do plan on buying the popcorn
buckets for it because they're pretty.

1170
00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:31,922
They're pretty badass.

1171
00:46:31,922 --> 00:46:32,923
Thanks, man.

1172
00:46:32,923 --> 00:46:33,423
Yeah.

1173
00:46:33,423 --> 00:46:36,059
I've I figured I have to watch it
because Susie wants to see it,

1174
00:46:36,059 --> 00:46:37,861
and she doesn't
want to see a lot of movies.

1175
00:46:37,861 --> 00:46:38,862
But I'm hopeful.

1176
00:46:38,862 --> 00:46:42,166
I'm hopeful that it's not at least,
you know, complete garbage.

1177
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:44,701
It will be a different taste. It'll be.

1178
00:46:44,701 --> 00:46:46,370
You're coming back to do
the review on that? Yeah.

1179
00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:48,138
I can't wait to hear what you take. Is
the crack.

1180
00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:50,207
This year was complete garbage.

1181
00:46:50,207 --> 00:46:50,941
Yeah.

1182
00:46:50,941 --> 00:46:52,676
I also really want to watch Mickey 17.

1183
00:46:52,676 --> 00:46:54,411
I think it just came out.

1184
00:46:54,411 --> 00:46:56,947
Yeah, my Novocain looks good.

1185
00:46:56,947 --> 00:46:59,116
I probably won't see it in theaters
though, but that does look good.

1186
00:46:59,116 --> 00:47:01,618
So if you guys have time, check it out.

1187
00:47:01,618 --> 00:47:02,786
That's a streaming one for me too.

1188
00:47:02,786 --> 00:47:03,754
I can't wait to see that though,

1189
00:47:03,754 --> 00:47:06,757
because Jack Quaid,
I am such a Jack Quaid fan now.

1190
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:07,858
Great voices.

1191
00:47:07,858 --> 00:47:11,962
Yes. Yeah, and Lower Decks
and then another Jason Statham movie.

1192
00:47:11,962 --> 00:47:14,798
If you guys love his movies,
they're all very similar, but,

1193
00:47:14,798 --> 00:47:16,133
you know, can't get enough of them.

1194
00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:17,868
It's called The Working Man.

1195
00:47:17,868 --> 00:47:19,203
What's the plot? Things like. That.

1196
00:47:20,571 --> 00:47:21,104
It's guys.

1197
00:47:21,104 --> 00:47:22,739
It's like

1198
00:47:22,739 --> 00:47:27,244
he's a badass undercover trying to play
a regular guy, leaving that world behind.

1199
00:47:27,244 --> 00:47:28,846
And then he realizes corruption

1200
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,480
and people being abused,
and he's like, you know what?

1201
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,149
I got to step up, protect the abused.

1202
00:47:32,149 --> 00:47:34,651
So he goes around and cracking skulls and.

1203
00:47:34,651 --> 00:47:37,387
Sounds like he's just in the movie.

1204
00:47:37,387 --> 00:47:40,023
He is pretty much all.

1205
00:47:40,023 --> 00:47:41,658
By the way,
I just saw Johnson this at the gym,

1206
00:47:41,658 --> 00:47:42,893
but they're making beekeeper too.

1207
00:47:42,893 --> 00:47:46,697
So if you guys are beekeeper fans, yeah,
they they're continuing that story.

1208
00:47:46,697 --> 00:47:47,698
That's cool.

1209
00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:49,233
I'm going to have to start
a DVD collection

1210
00:47:49,233 --> 00:47:51,335
of just all this Jason Statham movies.
I need shelves.

1211
00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:53,737
That you could just throw in. Yeah,
they're always there.

1212
00:47:53,737 --> 00:47:54,838
They're definitely worth.

1213
00:47:54,838 --> 00:47:56,673
You know, watching, like,
check out Instagrams like that.

1214
00:47:56,673 --> 00:47:59,042
You know, they do. Was somewhat decent.

1215
00:47:59,042 --> 00:48:01,111
Yeah. Anything else on the list on them?

1216
00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:02,012
That's it. There's, Yeah.

1217
00:48:02,012 --> 00:48:04,214
Not a lot of great movies
coming out right now,

1218
00:48:04,214 --> 00:48:06,550
but in the near future,
we got a lot in the pipeline.

1219
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:09,086
17 is definitely on
my my list. That looks great.

1220
00:48:09,086 --> 00:48:10,087
Yeah, that looks good.

1221
00:48:10,087 --> 00:48:12,322
I got a couple shows
I got to add to your list, Jonathan,

1222
00:48:12,322 --> 00:48:15,092
first off this Sunday
and it's an event for me

1223
00:48:15,092 --> 00:48:17,261
is Righteous Gemstones the final season.

1224
00:48:17,261 --> 00:48:18,095
What?

1225
00:48:18,095 --> 00:48:20,864
Yeah I thought it was already done.

1226
00:48:20,864 --> 00:48:21,198
Nope.

1227
00:48:21,198 --> 00:48:24,768
We got one more season and it starts
tomorrow night for you and me.

1228
00:48:24,868 --> 00:48:26,136
No way.

1229
00:48:26,136 --> 00:48:27,237
This is good news to me.

1230
00:48:27,237 --> 00:48:28,906
I didn't know this was coming out.

1231
00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:31,308
I thought, yeah, it's
cool baby. Bobby. Billy's back. Baby.

1232
00:48:31,308 --> 00:48:33,243
I thought it ended perfect.

1233
00:48:33,243 --> 00:48:35,545
Or like, you know, like as it.

1234
00:48:35,545 --> 00:48:36,013
That's crazy.

1235
00:48:36,013 --> 00:48:38,048
I know it had a very good kind of like.

1236
00:48:38,048 --> 00:48:40,450
Oh, they're all watching the monster
truck together. Family.

1237
00:48:40,450 --> 00:48:41,919
There's one more season.

1238
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:44,087
The dads retired.
They're getting him out of retirement.

1239
00:48:44,087 --> 00:48:44,588
Yeah, dude.

1240
00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:46,823
And I just got to watch the trailer,
and this is tomorrow.

1241
00:48:46,823 --> 00:48:48,659
I know that tomorrow night.

1242
00:48:48,659 --> 00:48:49,760
I know guys.

1243
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,229
I'm already like,
what am I going to make for dinner?

1244
00:48:52,229 --> 00:48:53,463
Dogs outside I the data.

1245
00:48:53,463 --> 00:48:56,433
Trust me, I know. Dude, that's easy.

1246
00:48:56,466 --> 00:48:57,234
It's one of those things

1247
00:48:57,234 --> 00:49:00,203
like you mean Daniel, text each other
random names or whatever the hell from.

1248
00:49:00,203 --> 00:49:02,239
And it's just such a perfect show.

1249
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,740
My goodness, what the heck. Okay.

1250
00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:06,443
Surely excited
I watch anything Danny McBride makes.

1251
00:49:06,443 --> 00:49:09,212
I love the dude. So funny, Yeah. So good.

1252
00:49:09,212 --> 00:49:11,682
And then also,
I know that I've kind of fallen off of it,

1253
00:49:11,682 --> 00:49:14,384
but I do need to keep up with it. Is
the Wheel of Time is starting again.

1254
00:49:14,384 --> 00:49:16,520
Season three, March 13th.

1255
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,755
Are you guys watching? Will a total.

1256
00:49:18,755 --> 00:49:20,223
No, I haven't seen any of it.

1257
00:49:20,223 --> 00:49:23,327
Stunned silence. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunate.

1258
00:49:24,695 --> 00:49:27,230
And then this is show I'm kind of which
I haven't seen yet.

1259
00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:32,336
It came out on the sixth is Deli Boys,
and it's these two, Pakistani American

1260
00:49:32,536 --> 00:49:35,505
who inherit their father's,
biggest convenience store.

1261
00:49:35,605 --> 00:49:36,306
Deli? Sorry.

1262
00:49:36,306 --> 00:49:37,507
It's deli boys deli.

1263
00:49:37,507 --> 00:49:40,644
I read anything right now, and,
they find out that he was actually, like,

1264
00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:44,581
a crime boss
and or involved in a crime family.

1265
00:49:45,082 --> 00:49:47,551
And now that he died,
they have to continue his job,

1266
00:49:47,551 --> 00:49:50,354
because otherwise, there's
a missing part of that crime. Family.

1267
00:49:50,354 --> 00:49:52,990
And so these two kids that are like,
oh, great, we have to

1268
00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:54,891
we have to make deli sandwiches now
and find out

1269
00:49:54,891 --> 00:49:57,094
they're actually in the middle
of a big crime syndicate

1270
00:49:57,094 --> 00:49:58,495
and had to try to keep up the ruse.

1271
00:49:59,529 --> 00:50:01,264
It's it looks so funny.

1272
00:50:01,264 --> 00:50:04,267
And I like how it's kind of that dark
humor humor thing like that, but.

1273
00:50:04,401 --> 00:50:06,803
Yeah. Interesting. And what's right.

1274
00:50:06,803 --> 00:50:07,971
What's what's that?

1275
00:50:07,971 --> 00:50:10,474
One of the deli boys. Okay.

1276
00:50:10,474 --> 00:50:12,309
Yeah, yeah.

1277
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:13,810
Oh, yeah. By the way, I made it.

1278
00:50:13,810 --> 00:50:16,947
Interesting connection
watching, Daredevil the other day.

1279
00:50:17,514 --> 00:50:20,817
Foggy Nelson and Oz Cobb are brothers

1280
00:50:22,019 --> 00:50:23,320
from the Penguin.

1281
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,255
They have the same mom.

1282
00:50:25,255 --> 00:50:26,223
You think so?

1283
00:50:26,223 --> 00:50:28,425
The same mom. Actress. Okay.

1284
00:50:28,425 --> 00:50:29,159
Okay.

1285
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:30,027
I was gonna say hello.

1286
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,662
I want to see the two. I saw her
come on screen.

1287
00:50:32,662 --> 00:50:33,363
I was like, wait a minute.

1288
00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:37,300
She plays, you know, Oz's mom on the,
The new Penguin series is like,

1289
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:41,538
oh, man, that's a whole,
I mean, cross dimensional connection.

1290
00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:42,672
That's funny, I like it.

1291
00:50:42,672 --> 00:50:45,809
I would love to see Oz
and, Fisk in the same room.

1292
00:50:46,243 --> 00:50:50,047
That kingpin penguin, Going to be in two
powers, different parts of the city.

1293
00:50:50,047 --> 00:50:52,416
But then they were starting to rival
with each other because,

1294
00:50:52,416 --> 00:50:53,884
bumping borders or something like that.

1295
00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:54,684
Yeah. Go to war.

1296
00:50:54,684 --> 00:50:57,521
Oh, my God, that's the Marvel DC crossover
I want right there.

1297
00:50:57,521 --> 00:50:59,689
Yeah, that'd be so much greater
than heroes versus heroes.

1298
00:50:59,689 --> 00:51:01,091
But the villains versus villains.

1299
00:51:01,091 --> 00:51:02,926
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

1300
00:51:02,926 --> 00:51:06,163
Imagine like a period where MCU or DC

1301
00:51:06,163 --> 00:51:09,166
or both get to the point that, like,
the heroes actually all got killed off.

1302
00:51:09,399 --> 00:51:10,901
So it's like a rebirth.

1303
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:13,904
The cities are all being taken over
by villains as they rise in power.

1304
00:51:14,237 --> 00:51:16,940
And then, yeah,
we then we need the the punishers

1305
00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:20,811
of the ground level heroes
to start to elevator surface.

1306
00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:24,114
Yeah. Come to light.
A really fun, it's the.

1307
00:51:24,181 --> 00:51:26,817
It doesn't end very well,
but the beginning is the injustice.

1308
00:51:26,817 --> 00:51:29,820
It was a video game, and they made it
a comic book and then a movie.

1309
00:51:30,020 --> 00:51:33,023
But the start of that is
that Joker comes to Metropolis,

1310
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,558
which Batman's like,
why are you doing that?

1311
00:51:34,558 --> 00:51:35,225
So he goes to check it out.

1312
00:51:35,225 --> 00:51:40,831
And what what he's doing is he's he kills
Scarecrow, takes the fear toxin, gets

1313
00:51:41,898 --> 00:51:44,534
with he kidnaps Lois Lane.

1314
00:51:44,534 --> 00:51:45,869
Superman comes in to save Lois Lane.

1315
00:51:45,869 --> 00:51:46,336
Boom.

1316
00:51:46,336 --> 00:51:48,905
Based on his fear
toxin, gets into his system.

1317
00:51:48,905 --> 00:51:51,007
Then he sees Lois Lane as doomsday.

1318
00:51:51,007 --> 00:51:52,242
And he he.

1319
00:51:52,242 --> 00:51:53,143
So he doesn't know what he's doing.

1320
00:51:53,143 --> 00:51:55,378
So he takes doomsday,
and he flies me to space.

1321
00:51:55,378 --> 00:51:57,814
Gonna kill him. And Batman is like,
stop, stop, stop this Lois Lane.

1322
00:51:57,814 --> 00:52:01,651
And he kills Lois Lane, who just flat out
she's pregnant with Superman's baby. So

1323
00:52:02,686 --> 00:52:04,688
and so. The whole story is like,
super baby.

1324
00:52:04,688 --> 00:52:05,889
Hero. Yeah.

1325
00:52:05,889 --> 00:52:08,725
So Superman is like, I can't trust
humanity to protect itself anymore.

1326
00:52:08,725 --> 00:52:11,061
Becomes like the king of humanity

1327
00:52:11,061 --> 00:52:14,664
and Batman and his, like,
rag tag team are trying to stop him.

1328
00:52:14,664 --> 00:52:17,601
It's such a good beginning.
Doesn't end super great.

1329
00:52:17,601 --> 00:52:19,870
But that beginning is so freaking awesome.

1330
00:52:19,870 --> 00:52:21,738
Yeah. Where's that movie? Come on, let's.

1331
00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:22,506
It is a movie.

1332
00:52:22,506 --> 00:52:24,708
It's animated though
you can't say I don't watch.

1333
00:52:24,708 --> 00:52:27,310
The animated adventure.
Disney animated movies are

1334
00:52:28,411 --> 00:52:29,713
phenomenal. Bro.

1335
00:52:29,713 --> 00:52:31,548
They're always good.
They're not very long.

1336
00:52:31,548 --> 00:52:33,984
Oh, by the way,
speaking of this month, next week

1337
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:35,585
and we'll have a review on the Geek
Fix podcast.

1338
00:52:35,585 --> 00:52:38,588
Of course I know why am I plugging gave
this podcast you guys are listening to it.

1339
00:52:38,822 --> 00:52:40,056
We're gonna be discussing invincible.

1340
00:52:40,056 --> 00:52:42,359
The season's ending,
and I think that's just like.

1341
00:52:42,359 --> 00:52:44,261
I mean, how do they not miss?

1342
00:52:44,261 --> 00:52:46,530
It's good every single time. Yeah.

1343
00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:48,965
So if you guys aren't watching that yet,
it's always worth the watch.

1344
00:52:48,965 --> 00:52:51,301
And that's finale next week.

1345
00:52:51,301 --> 00:52:54,304
All right,
let's shift over to our interview with Rob

1346
00:52:54,304 --> 00:52:57,307
and Elise from the nerd best friends.

1347
00:53:00,644 --> 00:53:01,678
Today I'm joined by Annalise

1348
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:04,714
and Rob from the Nerd Best Friend podcast.

1349
00:53:04,714 --> 00:53:05,615
How are you guys both doing today?

1350
00:53:06,883 --> 00:53:09,553
Well, I'm great, thank you.

1351
00:53:09,553 --> 00:53:12,155
Fantastic. Thank you. Break smiles.

1352
00:53:12,155 --> 00:53:13,590
All right,
so let's let's, let's start with you.

1353
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:14,090
Annalise.

1354
00:53:14,090 --> 00:53:17,060
Can you break down a little bit of what
this podcast is all about?

1355
00:53:17,561 --> 00:53:18,028
Sure.

1356
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:21,965
The short, short version is that
Rob and I have been best friends

1357
00:53:21,965 --> 00:53:23,900
for a very long time, for over 30 years.

1358
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:25,268
We met in high school,

1359
00:53:25,268 --> 00:53:28,505
and, somewhere along the lines,
we were like, let's do a podcast.

1360
00:53:28,505 --> 00:53:31,908
And Rob's actually done
a couple of podcasts in the past,

1361
00:53:31,908 --> 00:53:36,112
many, many years ago,
and we couldn't quite land on what to do.

1362
00:53:36,112 --> 00:53:40,050
So we thought, well, we're both nerds,
we're best friends,

1363
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,887
and we like to talk about, like,
very nerdy things all the time.

1364
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:46,022
And it's just one of the things
that's hinged

1365
00:53:46,022 --> 00:53:49,092
our friendship is that we play games,
we play video games.

1366
00:53:49,092 --> 00:53:53,196
We hung out and our nerds about stuff
and love sharing that with each other.

1367
00:53:53,463 --> 00:53:56,967
And so the whole premise of our podcast
is that you can be nerdy about everything

1368
00:53:57,234 --> 00:54:00,570
and anything, and we're going to have
these conversations that either

1369
00:54:00,971 --> 00:54:02,973
you wish you could have
or you're already having.

1370
00:54:02,973 --> 00:54:05,542
So that's kind of the premise
of our podcast.

1371
00:54:05,542 --> 00:54:06,443
Yeah. Yeah.

1372
00:54:06,443 --> 00:54:09,546
That's our that's kind of our tagline
is the nerdy Conversations.

1373
00:54:09,546 --> 00:54:11,648
You're already having or wish you could.

1374
00:54:11,648 --> 00:54:15,218
Because we always thought,
you know, we have professional lives

1375
00:54:15,218 --> 00:54:18,221
and we've done, you know,
we're in education, we're in technology.

1376
00:54:18,321 --> 00:54:20,624
You know, we're in management.
We do all these things.

1377
00:54:20,624 --> 00:54:21,992
But really when we think about like,

1378
00:54:21,992 --> 00:54:25,895
oh, what would be like our dream job
or our dream scenario, I'd be like, oh,

1379
00:54:25,895 --> 00:54:31,735
we'd own that comic book game store,
cafe bar, and we'd hang out all the time.

1380
00:54:31,735 --> 00:54:35,572
Talking birds, having conversations
about the new game, the new comic book,

1381
00:54:35,572 --> 00:54:38,241
the new movie that's coming out
and all that kind of stuff.

1382
00:54:38,241 --> 00:54:43,013
It's like, well, we're probably not like,
that's not the trajectory we went on.

1383
00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:44,748
So what if we did that virtually right?

1384
00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:47,484
Thanks to the internet,
we could still just hang out

1385
00:54:47,484 --> 00:54:51,588
and have those conversations, meet
new nerds, you know, meet new people

1386
00:54:51,588 --> 00:54:54,758
that have those same kind of interests
and have those interesting conversations.

1387
00:54:54,991 --> 00:54:57,594
And so that's that's it.

1388
00:54:57,594 --> 00:55:02,265
The idea is you're walking into our,
you know, virtual space.

1389
00:55:02,332 --> 00:55:04,901
Where you can nerd out about anything.

1390
00:55:04,901 --> 00:55:08,905
So Rob just stole my teenage journal where
I was talking about my nerd cafe, and.

1391
00:55:09,339 --> 00:55:10,507
It's it's troubling.

1392
00:55:12,375 --> 00:55:13,476
We all want it, right?

1393
00:55:13,476 --> 00:55:16,680
Does yours also talk about, like,
the lazy, like, shut up, dog

1394
00:55:16,813 --> 00:55:19,816
lying by the door? Kind of like you said.

1395
00:55:20,050 --> 00:55:20,450
Yeah.

1396
00:55:20,450 --> 00:55:21,584
New crypto, of course.

1397
00:55:21,584 --> 00:55:24,254
Yeah, something like that. Yeah.

1398
00:55:24,254 --> 00:55:27,023
We're on the same page.

1399
00:55:27,023 --> 00:55:27,857
Yeah. So you guys.

1400
00:55:27,857 --> 00:55:29,526
So, Rob,
you actually had podcasts before this,

1401
00:55:29,526 --> 00:55:30,694
can you kind of touch on what those were?

1402
00:55:30,694 --> 00:55:33,363
And that's transition at a new show?

1403
00:55:33,363 --> 00:55:33,963
Sure.

1404
00:55:33,963 --> 00:55:37,600
I mean, this was back, our 22,000.

1405
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,668
Yeah, probably about 20.

1406
00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:41,338
Years internet radio days
when it wasn't even considered podcast.

1407
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:42,672
At the time. Yeah, yeah.

1408
00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:43,573
Or it was early.

1409
00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:45,475
It was early podcasts, actually.
Yeah. Yeah.

1410
00:55:45,475 --> 00:55:50,313
You mean you had to, like,
download an RSS feed link kind of thing?

1411
00:55:50,313 --> 00:55:54,084
But my brother and I were very into,
racing racecars

1412
00:55:54,084 --> 00:55:57,153
and NASCAR and stuff like that,
because that was the era.

1413
00:55:57,153 --> 00:56:01,458
It was more popular than ever back in 2000
with, you know, Jeff

1414
00:56:01,458 --> 00:56:03,993
Gordon and Dale Earnhardt
and all that kind of stuff where like,

1415
00:56:03,993 --> 00:56:07,263
you know, we get together on these Sundays
and we, you know, drink beer

1416
00:56:07,263 --> 00:56:10,233
and watch these races
and sit here and talk about it.

1417
00:56:10,533 --> 00:56:12,669
Let's start recording a podcast.

1418
00:56:12,669 --> 00:56:17,006
And so, we recorded that podcast,
the two of us, it was called the Track

1419
00:56:17,006 --> 00:56:20,410
Smack Podcast because we were talking
smack about NASCAR.

1420
00:56:20,577 --> 00:56:24,481
It was just an excuse, really, to hang out
with my brother in law every week

1421
00:56:24,481 --> 00:56:28,084
and talk about racing kind of thing,
and that kind of went nowhere.

1422
00:56:28,084 --> 00:56:31,554
And then he had kids and he's like,
I can't do this editing anymore.

1423
00:56:32,422 --> 00:56:34,624
And then because I had a little bit
of experience with that,

1424
00:56:34,624 --> 00:56:38,328
I actually did, a podcast
for the school district that I work for.

1425
00:56:38,661 --> 00:56:42,632
And, so myself and a colleague,
we set up a podcast

1426
00:56:42,632 --> 00:56:43,400
for the school district

1427
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,669
all about educational technology,
new releases, the idea being like,

1428
00:56:46,669 --> 00:56:49,839
hey, it's really tough to get professional
development to all these teachers.

1429
00:56:50,607 --> 00:56:52,709
It's, you know,
we have all these different places

1430
00:56:52,709 --> 00:56:55,111
for the community
to learn about what's going on.

1431
00:56:55,111 --> 00:56:58,748
And, our school district,
let's try our podcast.

1432
00:56:58,748 --> 00:57:01,785
And so we did that,
and for a couple of seasons before

1433
00:57:02,051 --> 00:57:06,523
Covid hit
and then being, in educational technology,

1434
00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:10,493
when schools shut down and everything
had to go digital, we were very busy.

1435
00:57:10,493 --> 00:57:13,263
And yeah,
this project. Also, ended up dying.

1436
00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:17,700
But for sure, the Nerd Best Friends
podcast has been the most consistent

1437
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:20,703
and the longest lasting
and something that, we're actually

1438
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:22,939
we're actually building
an audience, right?

1439
00:57:22,939 --> 00:57:24,140
And we're we're having those.

1440
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:25,708
I mean, we're here today

1441
00:57:25,708 --> 00:57:29,279
because we're making connections
with, other nerds and other fields.

1442
00:57:29,746 --> 00:57:32,549
Everyone that we've met and gotten
feedback from

1443
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:35,685
has been super cool and super nice.

1444
00:57:36,553 --> 00:57:40,423
The idea of,
you know, the nerd getting bullied

1445
00:57:40,423 --> 00:57:44,294
like it was when we were kids
and where we kind of needed a safe space

1446
00:57:44,294 --> 00:57:45,695
to talk about this stuff.

1447
00:57:45,695 --> 00:57:47,230
Everybody's got that safe space now.

1448
00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:50,200
Everybody's talking about this stuff.
It seems like. I mean, everybody.

1449
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,668
We come into contact like you, Frank.

1450
00:57:51,668 --> 00:57:54,671
It's just been super inviting
and really cool.

1451
00:57:55,038 --> 00:57:57,874
Yeah, that's one of the things
that we like about Geek freaks as well, is

1452
00:57:57,874 --> 00:58:00,610
we always harken back to,
you know, early 2000

1453
00:58:00,610 --> 00:58:02,045
when Phantom Menace came out

1454
00:58:02,045 --> 00:58:04,347
and all we heard about was like,
oh, this is a terrible movie.

1455
00:58:04,347 --> 00:58:05,448
It's terrible, blah, blah, blah.

1456
00:58:05,448 --> 00:58:08,051
But for us kids that were our first Star
Wars, Star Wars, we were like,

1457
00:58:08,051 --> 00:58:10,053
I don't know,
I thought that was pretty awesome.

1458
00:58:10,053 --> 00:58:11,621
And then when you grow up, you're like,
wait a minute.

1459
00:58:11,621 --> 00:58:13,990
We all thought it was awesome.
We just were talking to each other.

1460
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:16,993
And so it's like, it's nice that now we're
not hiding in the band rooms anymore.

1461
00:58:16,993 --> 00:58:19,929
We can talk to each other about the stuff
that we actually do think it's cool

1462
00:58:19,929 --> 00:58:21,531
and it's nice it like, you're guys.
Okay, wait.

1463
00:58:21,531 --> 00:58:22,065
Okay, wait.

1464
00:58:22,065 --> 00:58:24,200
Yeah, I was going to interrupt as well.
What did you.

1465
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,368
Did you play?

1466
00:58:25,368 --> 00:58:29,138
I was no, I was definitely playing
Pokemon cards, but I was in the band room.

1467
00:58:29,138 --> 00:58:29,739
Kids.

1468
00:58:29,739 --> 00:58:32,542
Yeah, I knew where the kids were at.

1469
00:58:32,542 --> 00:58:33,376
Johnny.

1470
00:58:33,376 --> 00:58:36,012
You were one of the hangar
outers. Exactly.

1471
00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:37,247
Yeah, yeah.

1472
00:58:37,247 --> 00:58:39,349
We're a couple of trumpet
players. There we. Go.

1473
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:41,751
A couple of, of drum majors.
And that's true.

1474
00:58:41,751 --> 00:58:44,053
That's where you eat your lunch,
you hang out, and you.

1475
00:58:44,053 --> 00:58:46,656
That's where we were playing Magic
the Gathering. That's where we were.

1476
00:58:46,656 --> 00:58:48,558
That's where I learned how to play poker.

1477
00:58:48,558 --> 00:58:50,093
Yeah, that's what that's about.

1478
00:58:50,093 --> 00:58:50,793
Oh, God. Yeah.

1479
00:58:50,793 --> 00:58:52,829
If you did just in my senior year
that if you did it right,

1480
00:58:52,829 --> 00:58:55,598
you played poker, like in multiple classes
with the same friends.

1481
00:58:55,598 --> 00:58:57,901
And then eventually, by lunchtime,
you were finishing up the poker game

1482
00:58:57,901 --> 00:59:00,236
for the day, and I was like,
that's how you plan a senior year.

1483
00:59:00,236 --> 00:59:01,437
And stuff like that. It's great.

1484
00:59:02,839 --> 00:59:03,373
Okay, so

1485
00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:05,909
with your
guys, a show of you guys founded in 2021,

1486
00:59:05,909 --> 00:59:08,244
and I gotta say,
I listen to a lot of different podcasts,

1487
00:59:08,244 --> 00:59:09,679
especially parties on the network.

1488
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:13,016
You guys have such a well-produced show,
with that practice.

1489
00:59:13,016 --> 00:59:15,151
That's why I was like,
okay, Rob's had a podcast of the past

1490
00:59:15,151 --> 00:59:15,852
that makes total sense.

1491
00:59:15,852 --> 00:59:18,855
You guys got really great
transitional music and audio quality.

1492
00:59:18,855 --> 00:59:20,690
What goes into producing this episode?

1493
00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:22,659
Every, every week.

1494
00:59:22,659 --> 00:59:23,793
Before you say anything?

1495
00:59:23,793 --> 00:59:25,128
I mean, this is good.

1496
00:59:25,128 --> 00:59:29,232
This is great because when we pitched
the way we had the conversations

1497
00:59:29,232 --> 00:59:33,503
about the podcast and when we
and when we, talked about it, I was a no.

1498
00:59:33,503 --> 00:59:35,605
I'm like, I've done podcast before.

1499
00:59:35,605 --> 00:59:38,241
It's a lot of work.
There's so much editing.

1500
00:59:38,241 --> 00:59:39,943
I don't want to do it on a lease.

1501
00:59:39,943 --> 00:59:45,281
So you you've made the assumption
which you which made logical sense.

1502
00:59:46,249 --> 00:59:48,318
I don't do any of it on a lease.

1503
00:59:48,318 --> 00:59:53,389
Does all of the production and post work
and editing and I agree, it's amazing.

1504
00:59:53,756 --> 00:59:56,259
Yeah. So you both you both are very kind.

1505
00:59:56,259 --> 01:00:00,830
I don't I mean I listen to podcasts that
I just my hope is that we're putting out

1506
01:00:00,830 --> 01:00:04,434
a product that represents who we are
and we are both educators.

1507
01:00:04,434 --> 01:00:05,702
Right. I'm I'm a high school principal.

1508
01:00:05,702 --> 01:00:08,838
Rob is district level,
you know, chief technology officer.

1509
01:00:08,838 --> 01:00:11,140
We're both management educators now.

1510
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:11,374
Yeah.

1511
01:00:11,374 --> 01:00:12,508
That whatever we put out

1512
01:00:12,508 --> 01:00:13,910
should represent us professionally,

1513
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:16,446
even though this is
not about our professional work.

1514
01:00:16,446 --> 01:00:18,848
So that's that's the standard.

1515
01:00:18,848 --> 01:00:20,183
I push this podcast.

1516
01:00:20,183 --> 01:00:22,986
Are we? Actually,
I really wanted to do a Buffy podcast.

1517
01:00:22,986 --> 01:00:25,755
I am a huge fan of Buffy
the Vampire Slayer.

1518
01:00:25,755 --> 01:00:28,791
I was 18 the year, Buffy was released.

1519
01:00:28,791 --> 01:00:31,194
I was in college,
and it spoke to me in a way

1520
01:00:31,194 --> 01:00:33,229
that no other show
had spoken to me before.

1521
01:00:33,229 --> 01:00:34,931
It means a lot to me personally.

1522
01:00:34,931 --> 01:00:37,834
We were going to do a show about that,
but Rob brought up some good points.

1523
01:00:37,834 --> 01:00:39,936
Like, what do you do once that shows over?

1524
01:00:39,936 --> 01:00:43,206
Yeah, you could do things
that are tangential to it, but you know,

1525
01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:46,376
at some point
it will just naturally have an end.

1526
01:00:46,376 --> 01:00:47,944
And if we're going to do this,
we're going to do this

1527
01:00:47,944 --> 01:00:50,713
in a way that we can build an audience
and just keep doing it.

1528
01:00:50,713 --> 01:00:52,815
As long as we enjoy doing it.

1529
01:00:52,815 --> 01:00:56,185
And so I learned everything on the fly,
how to edit.

1530
01:00:56,185 --> 01:00:58,421
We, you know, what tools to use.

1531
01:00:58,421 --> 01:01:01,124
You know, I did go by a nice microphone
just to make sure

1532
01:01:01,124 --> 01:01:04,861
that our audio quality was good,
but I have found

1533
01:01:05,428 --> 01:01:10,466
a little bit of a creative output
in the editing and have gotten to a point

1534
01:01:10,466 --> 01:01:13,603
where it's my once
a week, it's my Sunday activity.

1535
01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:15,905
Spend some time the family make breakfast.

1536
01:01:15,905 --> 01:01:18,408
We either record or I am editing.

1537
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:21,277
So we alternate,
which is also why we, you know,

1538
01:01:21,277 --> 01:01:24,781
we're not as timely as we would like
because we record ahead of time.

1539
01:01:25,114 --> 01:01:26,215
We give ourselves a buffer.

1540
01:01:26,215 --> 01:01:29,218
So I have time to edit, but,

1541
01:01:29,452 --> 01:01:32,755
yeah, it's it means a lot to me to
to produce something

1542
01:01:32,755 --> 01:01:36,325
or to have something out there
with my name, our names and our voices.

1543
01:01:36,492 --> 01:01:40,863
Yeah, that that also just stands for the
high quality that we both learned, right?

1544
01:01:40,863 --> 01:01:42,532
We, we met in that band room.

1545
01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:46,369
And if one or either of us had decided
not to do marching, that we probably would

1546
01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:47,870
not have become best friends.

1547
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:50,840
And so we learned that excellence,

1548
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,476
from our band director
at the time, that I think both of us

1549
01:01:53,476 --> 01:01:57,647
continue to apply those types
of excellence lessons in everything we do.

1550
01:01:58,214 --> 01:02:01,484
You don't get into management,
without wanting to strive for that.

1551
01:02:01,484 --> 01:02:03,152
Excellent.
So our podcast should reflect that.

1552
01:02:03,152 --> 01:02:06,289
So I appreciate the compliments,
but it's really just about,

1553
01:02:06,355 --> 01:02:09,559
representing us who we are
and the fact that being a nerd is okay

1554
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:10,293
and it's important.

1555
01:02:10,293 --> 01:02:14,297
And we still don't like to see kids
being bullied because they

1556
01:02:14,297 --> 01:02:15,698
are nerds about Pokemon or,

1557
01:02:16,966 --> 01:02:19,135
the students at my high school
are flabbergasted

1558
01:02:19,135 --> 01:02:21,571
that I could walk up to them
and talk to them about fantasy football.

1559
01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:23,439
Or I can walk up to a group of ninth
grade boys

1560
01:02:23,439 --> 01:02:25,575
who are playing magic
and actually know the things.

1561
01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:30,246
So embracing all that are in all kids,
embracing

1562
01:02:30,246 --> 01:02:34,050
all of them is a huge part
of also just we're nerds and it's okay.

1563
01:02:34,050 --> 01:02:35,952
We like being nerds.
It's awesome being nerds.

1564
01:02:35,952 --> 01:02:38,755
And that's that's important to me.

1565
01:02:38,755 --> 01:02:41,591
I tell people
when I'm introducing the podcast,

1566
01:02:41,591 --> 01:02:44,393
I always say, like,
just start with the most recent episode

1567
01:02:44,393 --> 01:02:47,530
and go backwards
because I know how good it sounds.

1568
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:51,534
Now. It, it always sounded good, but,
you know, like, oh, if you love it now,

1569
01:02:51,567 --> 01:02:54,771
you'll stick with it when maybe it was
a little rough back in season one.

1570
01:02:54,771 --> 01:02:57,373
So just listen backwards
so you can jump around. With that.

1571
01:02:57,373 --> 01:02:58,407
But yeah.

1572
01:02:58,407 --> 01:03:02,044
How does an amazing job with our podcast,
I, I even, I even remember

1573
01:03:02,044 --> 01:03:05,047
calling her
one day around the end of season two.

1574
01:03:05,281 --> 01:03:08,584
I was listening to the podcast
in the car along my list because I was

1575
01:03:08,584 --> 01:03:09,519
it was a long drive,

1576
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:12,522
so a lot of podcast played
and ours was kind of in the middle of it.

1577
01:03:12,555 --> 01:03:13,055
And I called her.

1578
01:03:13,055 --> 01:03:14,524
I said, you know what?

1579
01:03:14,524 --> 01:03:17,093
I think our podcast. Is. Good because I.

1580
01:03:17,093 --> 01:03:20,463
Was listening to these other ones and
I'm like, ours was better than some of us.

1581
01:03:20,463 --> 01:03:22,698
We're doing something here. Good job.

1582
01:03:22,698 --> 01:03:24,300
Genuine surprise there by him.

1583
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,068
We're actually okay. Yeah.

1584
01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:28,304
You guys.

1585
01:03:28,304 --> 01:03:30,339
Yeah, it's a great show
and it's very conversational.

1586
01:03:30,339 --> 01:03:33,276
And you bring it up a great point
with you guys being educators.

1587
01:03:33,276 --> 01:03:34,076
I'm wondering,

1588
01:03:34,076 --> 01:03:36,946
have you guys seen a difference
between how people celebrate fandom from

1589
01:03:36,946 --> 01:03:41,184
when you guys are kids to nowadays seeing
kids being geeks and nerds are like.

1590
01:03:42,752 --> 01:03:43,619
Oh, 100%.

1591
01:03:43,619 --> 01:03:47,190
I mean, my school has a D&D club
and a club for just about anything

1592
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:50,159
you can imagine, right? And,
I can't imagine.

1593
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:53,029
I tried to be in Chess Club
when we were in high school, and I was

1594
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:56,866
one of one who wanted to be in chess club,
but now it's a thing, right?

1595
01:03:56,866 --> 01:03:58,000
It's much more embraced.

1596
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,270
And, you know,
when I talk about the podcast with people,

1597
01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:03,406
I tell them, like,
you can be a nerd about anything.

1598
01:04:03,406 --> 01:04:08,778
If you love doctor Pepper or you love
Pepsi, you could go on to social media

1599
01:04:08,778 --> 01:04:13,115
and find a fan group of that thing
and just nerd out with those people.

1600
01:04:13,115 --> 01:04:15,751
And that's what's behind our show.

1601
01:04:15,751 --> 01:04:18,054
And, I love seeing it from kids.

1602
01:04:18,054 --> 01:04:20,957
I have students from my school
that listen to our podcast

1603
01:04:20,957 --> 01:04:23,292
because they're also nerds,
and they they love it.

1604
01:04:23,292 --> 01:04:26,128
So, yeah, the yeah.

1605
01:04:26,128 --> 01:04:28,698
I would say the biggest difference
with that

1606
01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:31,701
from when I was a kid is, is like
I only said, it's the internet.

1607
01:04:31,934 --> 01:04:34,003
When we were kids, it was like, who?

1608
01:04:34,003 --> 01:04:35,438
You know, it's kind of the same.

1609
01:04:35,438 --> 01:04:37,974
Who were the influencers then, right?

1610
01:04:37,974 --> 01:04:42,378
Who was the cool nerd that brought Magic
The Gathering to the band room

1611
01:04:42,378 --> 01:04:43,079
the first time?

1612
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,915
Who was the cool nerd that told me, oh,

1613
01:04:45,915 --> 01:04:49,018
I'm reading this new Transformers comic,
and it's really different

1614
01:04:49,018 --> 01:04:50,586
than the cartoon,
and you're going to love it.

1615
01:04:50,586 --> 01:04:52,588
It was more word of mouth, right?

1616
01:04:52,588 --> 01:04:57,360
So we had to have that, or going to
the store and just figuring out like, oh,

1617
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,764
they put something new on the end cap,
I guess, you know, like, I'll try that out

1618
01:05:02,198 --> 01:05:06,035
there wasn't this idea of like, oh,
I'm thinking of something.

1619
01:05:06,035 --> 01:05:07,270
I have a computer in my pocket.

1620
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:09,572
I'll just pull it out
and all of a sudden there's a wiki page,

1621
01:05:09,572 --> 01:05:13,042
there's a fan group, there's a podcast,
there's 13,000 YouTube channels about it,

1622
01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:14,243
all of that kind of thing.

1623
01:05:14,243 --> 01:05:17,513
So you can really get
so much more information now.

1624
01:05:17,813 --> 01:05:21,751
Which makes it difficult in some ways,
because we can't spread our time

1625
01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:22,551
everywhere.

1626
01:05:22,551 --> 01:05:27,690
But also there's like I only said,
there's always a group for you in

1627
01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:31,260
whatever it is that you find a school,
you can find another group of people

1628
01:05:31,527 --> 01:05:34,530
because of where we are,
where we are with the internet now.

1629
01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:36,632
Well, it's
nice to hear kind of a positive effect

1630
01:05:36,632 --> 01:05:39,802
on the internet, on the kids,
because I think a lot of us, you know,

1631
01:05:39,802 --> 01:05:42,805
always hear the doomscrolling
the bad news side of it.

1632
01:05:42,838 --> 01:05:44,073
So is, the internet

1633
01:05:44,073 --> 01:05:47,076
helping and creating communities for kids
where they can find a home?

1634
01:05:47,176 --> 01:05:49,445
Is that more of a positive
than we're seeing out of the negatives?

1635
01:05:51,414 --> 01:05:52,982
I mean, well.

1636
01:05:52,982 --> 01:05:54,884
I think about this a lot

1637
01:05:54,884 --> 01:05:56,686
is right.

1638
01:05:56,686 --> 01:05:59,088
We're only going to hear
about the negative effects.

1639
01:05:59,088 --> 01:06:00,222
And there are some

1640
01:06:00,222 --> 01:06:01,824
I do think
one of the most important lessons

1641
01:06:01,824 --> 01:06:04,226
we can teach adolescents
is how the algorithms work.

1642
01:06:04,226 --> 01:06:07,129
You click on something and then you're
going to get fed just that voice.

1643
01:06:07,129 --> 01:06:10,232
And it's an echo chamber
because they're trying to feed you

1644
01:06:10,232 --> 01:06:13,536
the things you want and then sell you
things that they think you need.

1645
01:06:14,837 --> 01:06:16,772
They being the operative term there.

1646
01:06:16,772 --> 01:06:19,775
But if if teenagers are a

1647
01:06:19,942 --> 01:06:22,244
allowed the time to understand that,

1648
01:06:22,244 --> 01:06:25,848
then the impact of it is not as great
as we would think.

1649
01:06:26,282 --> 01:06:29,085
And technology is going to be
a battle forever in education,

1650
01:06:29,085 --> 01:06:32,088
but the ability to connect,
I think, is important.

1651
01:06:32,555 --> 01:06:35,124
We're almost I think, if I may, Rob,

1652
01:06:35,124 --> 01:06:38,694
he has described it at times of like
when we were in high school, it's almost

1653
01:06:39,895 --> 01:06:41,030
parallel to coming out.

1654
01:06:41,030 --> 01:06:41,364
Right.

1655
01:06:41,364 --> 01:06:45,167
You come out as a as a daddy nerd,
and you're careful to make sure there's

1656
01:06:45,167 --> 01:06:48,871
this person safe, me to let them know
and ask them if they play D&D

1657
01:06:49,338 --> 01:06:52,041
and that stigma is gone.

1658
01:06:52,041 --> 01:06:53,142
So it's a yes.

1659
01:06:53,142 --> 01:06:54,443
And there's still the

1660
01:06:54,443 --> 01:06:57,446
the not so great sides of social media
and how it feeds algorithms.

1661
01:06:57,446 --> 01:07:00,249
And Rob may have a different answer
of experiences.

1662
01:07:00,249 --> 01:07:00,916
Yeah.

1663
01:07:00,916 --> 01:07:04,954
You know, when I get this question
and get it a lot because sometimes I have

1664
01:07:04,954 --> 01:07:08,858
to, defend, internet in front of students
and things.

1665
01:07:09,191 --> 01:07:13,963
Really what it comes down to is
we have been poor stewards

1666
01:07:13,963 --> 01:07:18,234
of the internet, specifically web 2.0
with, social media and things.

1667
01:07:18,234 --> 01:07:22,038
We as parents, as educators, as adults,

1668
01:07:22,605 --> 01:07:25,408
we got that effect to, social media.

1669
01:07:25,408 --> 01:07:29,979
And the internet does such a good job
with dopamine and modeling it

1670
01:07:29,979 --> 01:07:33,849
after casino machines and things like,
we're constantly scrolling

1671
01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:36,886
to we're constantly
in front of that screen to

1672
01:07:36,986 --> 01:07:41,323
and we know that, you know, children
look at adults and emulate them.

1673
01:07:41,323 --> 01:07:43,292
And we also didn't understand,

1674
01:07:43,292 --> 01:07:47,663
because of the rapid nature of technology
growth, that, hey,

1675
01:07:47,696 --> 01:07:50,699
you know, all of a sudden
we're looking around and seeing like we're

1676
01:07:50,699 --> 01:07:53,769
spending
a real long time on these screens.

1677
01:07:54,003 --> 01:07:55,137
I mean, I think we did before,

1678
01:07:55,137 --> 01:07:56,839
there were definitely kids
that would go home

1679
01:07:56,839 --> 01:08:00,009
and just plop themselves down
in front of the TV after school from,

1680
01:08:00,009 --> 01:08:03,946
you know, 3:00 in the afternoon
to 9:00 at night and kind of zombie out.

1681
01:08:03,946 --> 01:08:05,948
And there was,
you know, concern about that.

1682
01:08:05,948 --> 01:08:09,485
Even when I was a kid of like, how much
time you're sitting in front of the TV,

1683
01:08:09,852 --> 01:08:13,456
and now that TV is with us
always during the school

1684
01:08:13,456 --> 01:08:16,525
day, the workday, the after work,
you know, middle of the night.

1685
01:08:16,525 --> 01:08:17,927
It's always there.

1686
01:08:17,927 --> 01:08:23,099
So, like I said, educating, understanding
how these things work, right.

1687
01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:27,503
If you're if you're getting entertainment
for free, like guess what.

1688
01:08:27,803 --> 01:08:30,639
Like you're the product
and those kinds of things.

1689
01:08:30,639 --> 01:08:33,042
So educating and being aware of it.

1690
01:08:33,042 --> 01:08:36,412
But on the positive side
and I'm definitely an internet optimist,

1691
01:08:36,412 --> 01:08:39,415
I think the internet
is the most incredible

1692
01:08:39,482 --> 01:08:42,651
achievement of mankind
since the first campfire.

1693
01:08:44,153 --> 01:08:46,021
You have a community, right?

1694
01:08:46,021 --> 01:08:50,793
You know, anecdotally, as an example,
when, schools shut down and things,

1695
01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:55,464
you know, we're all,
you know, tight during the Covid pandemic,

1696
01:08:56,532 --> 01:09:00,569
my son was okay
because he had a group of friends

1697
01:09:00,569 --> 01:09:03,339
that would all jump on discord
and play video games together. Right.

1698
01:09:03,339 --> 01:09:05,975
And I would overhear them
in the living room.

1699
01:09:05,975 --> 01:09:09,245
They weren't just talking about the video
game, they were talking about life.

1700
01:09:09,245 --> 01:09:10,679
They were talking about what was going on.

1701
01:09:10,679 --> 01:09:12,148
They were talking about different friends.

1702
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:14,650
They were having the normal conversations.

1703
01:09:14,650 --> 01:09:16,952
It's just that they couldn't
be in the same room.

1704
01:09:16,952 --> 01:09:21,490
So the internet gave them a tool
where they could still be kids.

1705
01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:22,558
Same thing with us.

1706
01:09:22,558 --> 01:09:26,162
Like nerd wise, I'm a huge D&D player.

1707
01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:29,198
I have run D&D games
since I was in high school.

1708
01:09:29,365 --> 01:09:32,801
It's a huge hobby for me,
and it's one of those hobbies where

1709
01:09:33,402 --> 01:09:36,272
if I play daddy every week, it's like,
yeah, there's a Dungeons and Dragons game.

1710
01:09:36,272 --> 01:09:39,341
But really, what it was was a dinner

1711
01:09:39,341 --> 01:09:42,978
with a group of friends and conversations
we would have in and around the game.

1712
01:09:42,978 --> 01:09:48,450
It was connection and community that I was
building that not a lot of adults have.

1713
01:09:48,450 --> 01:09:48,817
Right.

1714
01:09:48,817 --> 01:09:49,552
And it's like, yeah,

1715
01:09:49,552 --> 01:09:52,154
we framed it around this nerdy thing,
but really,

1716
01:09:52,154 --> 01:09:54,857
it turns out I was a pretty healthy
and well-adjusted adult

1717
01:09:54,857 --> 01:09:57,826
because I would spend time
every week with friends.

1718
01:09:57,826 --> 01:10:01,330
And then when that shut down,
I started getting all these requests.

1719
01:10:01,330 --> 01:10:03,799
Can we start an online game?
Can we start an online game?

1720
01:10:03,799 --> 01:10:04,867
Can we play daddy?

1721
01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:08,270
I hear people are doing it on zoom,
or they're doing it on discord,

1722
01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:09,772
or there's these digital tools now.

1723
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:11,574
And so we said, okay, sure.

1724
01:10:11,574 --> 01:10:14,310
And we started this game
with like eight people in it.

1725
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:17,046
And we played it every week.

1726
01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,481
And for years.

1727
01:10:19,481 --> 01:10:21,183
And, it was a very special time.

1728
01:10:21,183 --> 01:10:24,353
And it was made possible
because we had the internet tools,

1729
01:10:24,353 --> 01:10:26,989
we had the community,
you know, available to us.

1730
01:10:26,989 --> 01:10:29,858
And it became a really special time,
to the point where

1731
01:10:29,858 --> 01:10:32,127
and this would be an episode to check out.

1732
01:10:32,127 --> 01:10:35,564
We played a campaign of Dungeons
and Dragons from first to 20th level.

1733
01:10:35,564 --> 01:10:38,968
We played almost every week for four years
to get there.

1734
01:10:38,968 --> 01:10:39,301
Yeah.

1735
01:10:39,301 --> 01:10:44,406
And our final adventure where we fought
the big boss and did the whole thing.

1736
01:10:44,707 --> 01:10:47,543
We also decided, let's do it in person.

1737
01:10:47,543 --> 01:10:50,679
And so from all over California
and different parts of the country,

1738
01:10:50,679 --> 01:10:55,484
everybody we got, we came to Vegas
and we rented a event space,

1739
01:10:55,684 --> 01:11:00,089
and we played that game there,
and it was the first time

1740
01:11:00,256 --> 01:11:03,125
we had all been in the same room,
in the same place.

1741
01:11:03,125 --> 01:11:05,094
It was the first time
some people had ever.

1742
01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:05,728
Even met.

1743
01:11:05,728 --> 01:11:10,366
Each person in person, and there were
tears, and it just felt so special.

1744
01:11:10,366 --> 01:11:11,834
And all this stuff.

1745
01:11:11,834 --> 01:11:16,405
And so when I talk about the internet
is great, that's those are the moments

1746
01:11:16,405 --> 01:11:20,442
that I'm grabbing as far as like,
no, this is really a powerful tool

1747
01:11:20,442 --> 01:11:24,513
that connects people
as much as it can isolate people as well.

1748
01:11:25,914 --> 01:11:28,951
That was Rob and Annalise from the Nerd
Best Friend podcast.

1749
01:11:28,984 --> 01:11:30,152
It's just part of the interview.

1750
01:11:30,152 --> 01:11:33,389
The full interview is on the Geek
Freak's interview, feed.

1751
01:11:33,689 --> 01:11:35,958
It's, much longer interview,
and we're gonna be talking more

1752
01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:37,860
about diving into geek culture,

1753
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:41,530
what it's like starting a podcast
and being educated at the same time.

1754
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:43,232
And it's just such a really good
conversation.

1755
01:11:43,232 --> 01:11:45,868
We've talked more about D&D,
so go ahead and check that out.

1756
01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:47,236
Links are going to be in the description

1757
01:11:47,236 --> 01:11:51,006
for everything, including Rob and Elisa's
podcast and Geek Freaks interviews.

1758
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,876
Let's go ahead and get back to you,
squeaks and Jonathan.

1759
01:11:53,876 --> 01:11:55,277
Let's move to network news.

1760
01:11:55,277 --> 01:11:56,612
Again, I just want to give you a reminder.

1761
01:11:56,612 --> 01:11:59,615
We have a brand new show in the network
called Anima Plus.

1762
01:11:59,748 --> 01:12:01,884
If you guys want to join their discord,
I can't suggest that enough.

1763
01:12:01,884 --> 01:12:04,586
It's a really active group guessing anime.

1764
01:12:04,586 --> 01:12:05,888
These two guys are amazing.

1765
01:12:05,888 --> 01:12:07,956
Array and own, They're blessed.

1766
01:12:07,956 --> 01:12:10,292
And we've been working together
on getting them to some convention.

1767
01:12:10,292 --> 01:12:13,896
So if you guys are, in the Boston
or the new Jersey area,

1768
01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:15,698
you guys want to go to anime conventions,

1769
01:12:15,698 --> 01:12:18,000
you'll have a chance to meet, Anime
Plus there.

1770
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,469
And then for our last podcast,
it's season 12.

1771
01:12:20,469 --> 01:12:21,804
We're in the middle of it right now.

1772
01:12:21,804 --> 01:12:24,106
We just picked our favorites.
We want to hear from you guys.

1773
01:12:24,106 --> 01:12:25,240
Who are your favorites this season?

1774
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,243
We'll track them along the way
and see how they do over.

1775
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:29,211
Challenge accepted.

1776
01:12:29,211 --> 01:12:30,212
We're doing Game Changer

1777
01:12:30,212 --> 01:12:33,215
from the drop out studios,
and we're covering Daredevil every week.

1778
01:12:33,515 --> 01:12:34,616
We're Phantom portals.

1779
01:12:34,616 --> 01:12:36,418
Aaron and Brasher just did

1780
01:12:36,418 --> 01:12:40,322
500 days of Summer, a movie
I haven't seen before, but it's got so I.

1781
01:12:40,422 --> 01:12:41,757
Did you watch that?

1782
01:12:41,757 --> 01:12:44,727
And they had a really good discussion
about like, Love and Pursuit

1783
01:12:44,727 --> 01:12:47,830
so that and I want to give a reminder
headlines is back.

1784
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:50,799
We canceled it, but we brought it back
because Laura masters canceled.

1785
01:12:50,799 --> 01:12:52,234
I can't do the little master.

1786
01:12:52,234 --> 01:12:53,335
It's just too damn boring.

1787
01:12:53,335 --> 01:12:54,603
But, headlines is back.

1788
01:12:54,603 --> 01:12:56,238
It's done every single day.

1789
01:12:56,238 --> 01:12:59,241
And you guys can subscribe on any
your favorite podcast platforms

1790
01:12:59,441 --> 01:13:02,444
and on TikTok, YouTube and Instagram.

1791
01:13:03,078 --> 01:13:04,613
Let's get to our recommendations.

1792
01:13:04,613 --> 01:13:06,115
What are your recommendations
for the week?

1793
01:13:06,115 --> 01:13:07,683
Johnson. Let's start with noise.

1794
01:13:07,683 --> 01:13:08,917
So we got next month

1795
01:13:08,917 --> 01:13:11,086
because I was talking about movies
and stuff we got coming up this month,

1796
01:13:11,086 --> 01:13:13,222
but next month
we're going to have The Last of Us.

1797
01:13:13,222 --> 01:13:15,224
So definitely want to rewatch season one.

1798
01:13:15,224 --> 01:13:16,392
Season two is coming out in April,

1799
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:20,062
so watch that and Andor season
two comes out next month.

1800
01:13:20,295 --> 01:13:21,830
Yes. So or starts up next.

1801
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:26,869
So both those I will be trying
once I once I get kind of with Daredevil.

1802
01:13:27,369 --> 01:13:30,472
I'm going to try to watch both those
before the next season starts.

1803
01:13:30,472 --> 01:13:33,108
So I would definitely recommend that do.

1804
01:13:33,108 --> 01:13:34,543
That's a good or do you get streaks.

1805
01:13:34,543 --> 01:13:34,810
Yeah.

1806
01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:38,580
So you've seen this from last month and
I've actually spent some time now in it.

1807
01:13:39,014 --> 01:13:41,517
But yakuza pirate in Hawaii. Right.

1808
01:13:42,851 --> 01:13:43,519
It's such a.

1809
01:13:43,519 --> 01:13:44,553
Weird, fun game.

1810
01:13:44,553 --> 01:13:46,555
And I was talking to people
for this podcast about it,

1811
01:13:46,555 --> 01:13:48,791
but, yeah, it's
just your typical Yakuza game.

1812
01:13:48,791 --> 01:13:51,226
Especially it has the same fighting style
as Yakuza.

1813
01:13:51,226 --> 01:13:51,560
The, Oh,

1814
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,897
my God, the crazy ass titled The Dead Man,
but no name or something like that.

1815
01:13:55,330 --> 01:13:59,368
But, yeah, it's funny at times, but,
it's it's essentially, this,

1816
01:13:59,968 --> 01:14:04,106
combination of old school
pirate theme in modern day Hawaii.

1817
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,477
And your crew is a mixture of both and,
it's just wacky.

1818
01:14:08,477 --> 01:14:09,311
It's fun.

1819
01:14:09,311 --> 01:14:10,712
So far, very interesting story.

1820
01:14:10,712 --> 01:14:12,214
I spent, quite a few hours and now.

1821
01:14:12,214 --> 01:14:15,184
So, Yeah, I could
I could highly recommend.

1822
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:18,187
Yeah, that's a good one.

1823
01:14:18,187 --> 01:14:20,689
For me, we have the Minecraft movie
coming up, which I think

1824
01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:23,692
looks pretty abysmal,
but I do want to give it a shot.

1825
01:14:24,026 --> 01:14:25,828
And so I have two recommendations for you.

1826
01:14:25,828 --> 01:14:29,198
First off, there's a, show called
Minecraft Story Mode.

1827
01:14:29,198 --> 01:14:30,265
I believe it's called.

1828
01:14:30,265 --> 01:14:33,268
And, it's actually shot
like within Minecraft, essentially.

1829
01:14:33,368 --> 01:14:34,470
So it kind of like fleshes out

1830
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,439
some of the lore in Minecraft,
some of the world building.

1831
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,943
The other thing I want to suggest to
you guys is the newer Jumanji movies,

1832
01:14:41,143 --> 01:14:44,546
because I think that's the vibe they're
going for with this new Minecraft movie.

1833
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:46,982
And those are those are so fun.

1834
01:14:46,982 --> 01:14:48,083
They're a nice little romp.

1835
01:14:48,083 --> 01:14:50,486
Of course, the classic Jumanji movies
the best,

1836
01:14:50,486 --> 01:14:53,222
but these ones
you have just the rock doing rock things.

1837
01:14:53,222 --> 01:14:54,790
You have Kevin Hart doing
Kevin Hart things.

1838
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:58,060
But I would say that performance
of Jack black,

1839
01:14:58,060 --> 01:15:01,497
who is going to be playing
Steve in the movie, is where it shines.

1840
01:15:01,663 --> 01:15:04,633
He's so fun in that movie,
and he does a hell of a good job.

1841
01:15:04,633 --> 01:15:05,734
And it was returned to him

1842
01:15:05,734 --> 01:15:09,404
being a side character, which I think was
where Jack black does his best work,

1843
01:15:09,738 --> 01:15:13,141
not when he's the main character
and yeah, all around a great movie.

1844
01:15:13,141 --> 01:15:16,178
So just to kind of kind of get
you guys primed up for the Minecraft movie

1845
01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,448
coming up that we hope is decent
and not abysmal.

1846
01:15:19,915 --> 01:15:21,016
We'll see how it goes.

1847
01:15:21,016 --> 01:15:23,919
I'm not looking forward
to it, but I we'll see.

1848
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,989
All right, guys, thank
you very much for joining us this week.

1849
01:15:26,989 --> 01:15:29,491
And we'll see
you on the next one. Bye bye.