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and saturated with our well known blend of painfully won

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expertise and deeply ingrained immaturity.

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For November 2024, it's the best sounding podcast

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in higher ed. This is Yavy Super Friends on topic,

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episode number 52. Holy

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schnike.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: 52.

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>> Chris Dechter: Broadcasting live to tape across five time

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zones today from coast to coast, easternmost and western most northernmost to

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Southernmost Gate post to Hitching Post. I'm your local host who can boast the most

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milk, toast and utmost humility. I'm Chris Dechter It's time for another Friday

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afternoon podcast adventure being recorded here on a

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Wednesday evening. Thursday morning at

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this point you were way off schedule here.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: So it's five time zones. It's hard for math.

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>> Chris Dechter: There's five time zones involved. So we get out

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the calculator. Special people here. So.

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And with that in mind, let's say hello to today's panel of AV Super

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Friends. Today I'm joined

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by an investor assurance architect from Kansas

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City, Jamie Reinhart.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Hi. Um, hi.

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>> Chris Dechter: Doesn't know what then I don't know. Also joined by

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a human paradigm engineer from

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Corvallis, Oregon, Mark Cholewczynski.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: We're never going to get it done, these guys. Paradigms.

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It's never going to happen.

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>> Chris Dechter: Uh, joined by a global applications

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coordinator from Greensboro, North Carolina, Larry

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>> Larry Darling: I'm submitting applications around the world.

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>> Chris Dechter: That's not what kind of application they need.

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Um, joined by our junior vice president for

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legacy accountability from Bowling Green, Kentucky, Justin

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>> Justin Rexing: Like, why did y'all demote me again?

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>> Chris Dechter: Cause you keep taking calls, doing some

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other job or something.

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>> Justin Rexing: Project manager call. I couldn't. Couldn't get him off the phone.

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And things are happening. It's been a busy day.

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>> Lisle Waldron: You're a vice president.

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>> Chris Dechter: The junior vice president now.

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And finally joined special guest by our central

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optimization manager from Trinidad and. Or

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Tobago, Lisle Waldron.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah. Uh, yes. Yeah. Yes. Hi.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Is it really. Answer.

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>> Chris Dechter: No, it's. But I'm not sure where he is.

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>> Lisle Waldron: No, he's. That's why I'm. Listen. He says, spot on, buddy.

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Spot on.

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>> Justin Rexing: Is it split like the east is Trinidad and the

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west is Tobago?

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>> Chris Dechter: North, South?

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>> Justin Rexing: Or is it north and south?

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>> Lisle Waldron: It's wooz. It's.

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>> Justin Rexing: So north, east and southwest. So it's at

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>> Lisle Waldron: Yes, it literally is leaning.

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>> Chris Dechter: It's leaning over.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: It's just curve.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Basically. Basically.

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>> Chris Dechter: Um, well, so today. Today's our

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Thanksgiving show. We're going to be, uh, focusing on our

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Thanksgiving special that we do every year, which in recent years

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we've done, uh, AV turkeys,

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if you recall those, where you each bring something that we consider to be

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a turkey in the AV industry. Product, service,

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something along those lines. Um,

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>> Larry Darling: We've been angry a lot lately.

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>> Justin Rexing: The yummy kind, the good kind,

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vinegar.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Coleslaw, garbage from Carolina.

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>> Chris Dechter: Oh, wow. Harsh.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Wow. They had to be solid

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side dishes, though, right? Like, real.

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>> Chris Dechter: Okay. Like, yeah, side dishes. I think we also, uh, expanded it

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>> Chris Dechter: And so we'll go from there, but, uh, as we do every year, we

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go to a different person's house to host our

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Thanksgiving dinner. So. Theater of the mind, bear

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Tis the season for it.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Please take your shoes off.

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>> Chris Dechter: So, yes. Uh, Lisle thank you very much for hosting

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the AV Super Friends Thanksgiving special at your house.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Hey, no worries. I'm, um, broke, but let's make it hop on.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: In the traditional terms of Thanksgiving, we went

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, we figured you went to the.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Country where there is no Thanksgiving. We don't. We don't. We don't do

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Thanksgiving. So let's make happen.

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>> Justin Rexing: I just realized we're doing this first time with video, so the

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sound effects, like, if you're watching this, just

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imagine we're actually eating food and we're not doing it.

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>> Lisle Waldron: You're not.

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>> Chris Dechter: We're. We have video running, but it ain't streaming,

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Justin. Oh,

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so you put on the fan.

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>> Justin Rexing: Did I kind of pull back the curtain on us here a little bit, or am

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>> Chris Dechter: I think people understand how we.

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>> Justin Rexing: Okay.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: So I'm just curious, like, what happens, like,

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what's on TV during Thanksgiving time?

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>> Lisle Waldron: Where you football

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in my house. Um, because I'm an

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Okay.

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>> Lisle Waldron: I'm going to be watching football.

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>> Justin Rexing: There you go.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Fun.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Do you still get, like, inundated with all the Black Friday shit that's like.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Ah. Uh, yes. Oh, yeah. We have an entire

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logistics mechanism of every Trinidadian having an

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address in Miami, which is our freight forwarding address.

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freight forwarders. Don't forget Black Friday is coming. Don't forget

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Thanksgiving. See you.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Truly, it's not too far off.

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>> Justin Rexing: Freight forwarders.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah, freight forwarders. It's a thing. It's actually called a

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skybox. You do the math. English is

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a lovely language. I have three skyboxes. I have

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multiple addresses in Florida.

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>> Justin Rexing: You know what's funny? Not to derail us a whole lot, but our support

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team calls, um, Crestron Scaler C sky

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boxes, and just come to my head like, oh, the skybox

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is dead again. We got to remove it. And like, I don't know, it's like

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a scalar.

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>> Chris Dechter: See, remove every receiver, regardless of

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make, model, manufacturer, any sort of video receiver of any

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sort. A scalar, a scaler.

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>> Justin Rexing: Oh, there are sky boxes because they're in the sky.

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>> Lisle Waldron: So your team is in their 20s with that

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feeling, that facade. I'm a Michael. One last thing. I'm,

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um, the worst Trinidadian that you all could have on the podcast.

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Um, I don't watch soccer. I only watch football. And by

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yeah, I. One of my regrets, not really,

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to play tight end. I mean, I am still got, like.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Four years of eligibility, I'm sure.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Uh, I don't think so.

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>> Chris Dechter: For that fifth year, too.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, just take that extra year.

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>> Lisle Waldron: I mean, maybe if I get an nil.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: You're gonna make so much money.

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>> Lisle Waldron: I just want to see if I can get an nil. Deal. Right? You know, I'm

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articulate. I could sell stuff.

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>> Chris Dechter: So let's make it Lisle view, red shirt. How many can you dress for a couple

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of games, and then you in for, like, three or four or something?

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>> Lisle Waldron: You know, dress, brother, I'm running.

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I'm. I'm old.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Red shirts get name, image, likeness, too.

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>> Chris Dechter: She doesn't even need a uniform.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Like, I'm not gonna tree in. I'm just gonna run out there.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Just gonna go. Yeah.

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>> Chris Dechter: Uh, Lisle since you're hosting, why don't we start with

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you? What. What's. What's the

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first, uh, item on your list of. Of AV

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side dishes, um, that you

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brought, and I guess we should explain AV side dish, by which we

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mean the little things. Not the main

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courses, not the big hero devices, but

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the unsung heroes of our AV systems.

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The widgets, the adapters, the software, the services,

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whatever it may be. The kind of the glue that

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holds our systems together that we love so much, so we want to

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keep this positive. These are good Things. So for

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those listening right now, get out your pens and papers and just write these down and

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buy all of them rare.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah.

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>> Chris Dechter: And put them all in your systems.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: And then at the same time tell us what kind of food that you would

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes.

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>> Chris Dechter: Wait, what? Two part question.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Two part question.

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>> Chris Dechter: Oh, we're changing the game.

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>> Lisle Waldron: So I'm starting the ball rolling. I'm um, bringing to the

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table HDMI extenders. Right. So

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pick your flavor. Um, I will allow you to go HDBSD if you

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want. I will allow you to go over copper or

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fiber if you're fancy. Um, I will even allow you to do

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protocols like DM or DM Lite if you're preparatory.

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>> Chris Dechter: Gross.

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>> Larry Darling: They don't work together.

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>> Lisle Waldron: And um, they do not legit.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: 5 flavors of DM out of all those.

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I prefer just anything that's

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>> Chris Dechter: Tea? Mhm.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: I'm not a huge fan of like proprietary bootleg

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weird versions of extenders out there, though they are out there

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and we may and or may have not used them at different

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times. But fool me once, shame on

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me, I guess. Shame on you or whoever. However

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that goes. I tend to not use the weird

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ones much anymore if I don't have to.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah, I mean, the good news is in our pre convo, Chris, you know,

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put me on game to a couple of brands there

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that I'm gonna leave not mentioned so that their stock prices don't

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rise or at least their product prices or drop.

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>> Chris Dechter: That price goes down.

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get what I can get. So I have to be very

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careful. I can't afford to buy a batch of HDB ST

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extenders and then they don't work. So I've leaned

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more heavily on proprietary solutions from my

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favorite swirling Tron. Um, because to be fair, they

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worked. I've never had a problem with any of them. They've never. You never dropped

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definitely phase one extenders. I um,

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of M. The.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: That's what everything is now, right?

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>> Lisle Waldron: I do extend it.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah.

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>> Lisle Waldron: I've seen extension cords hung from a wall

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across the room in the air like a clothesline.

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But I can't do that for my signal cable. So,

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um, anything over 20ft. HDMI guys. Let's just

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say extend it, please.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: I'm m with you. It's a good common best practice. I like it.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Yes.

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>> Chris Dechter: I was gonna say that. Do we have a number that we like for like

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what's the maximum length of a straight up passive

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HDMI cable that we're comfortable with? Because I have a hard

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>> Lisle Waldron: Minus 25. Okay.

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>> Chris Dechter: I'm at the exact same number. 25ft. Anything longer than

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that, you better be extending that properly.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: 25 beats the max. I'm going to give a client from like to their

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wall to the top of their table.

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>> Justin Rexing: Are you gonna be an. It's going to be directional.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, I'm not.

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>> Justin Rexing: No, not directional.

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>> Larry Darling: I hate.

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>> Justin Rexing: Not active.

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>> Larry Darling: No, no, no.

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>> Lisle Waldron: That's dangerous for me because what are you patching into the wall

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into? Because if it's another HDMI cable, are

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you really 55?

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>> Chris Dechter: Ask me about the time that I wired a 75

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foot freaking cable to find out it was direction. I did it the wrong direction. And it

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gets.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Everybody's done it. At least.

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>> Justin Rexing: I like to hand the clients those cables and say, here you go, good

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luck.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Tell them that it's directional.

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>> Larry Darling: That did that. They left the directional cables for

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the uh, to plug their laptop into the

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table.

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>> Justin Rexing: Didn't explain what they were.

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>> Larry Darling: No.

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Oh dear. Oh yeah.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: That was all like back in the Kodak days we did that. Like we had to get the

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giant long whatever the red mirror, whatever the

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hell cables they were, they were directional. We ran those things through and

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you hell of a time. Three, three and a half hours of running that through the

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ceiling and then get there and you're like son of a. You do

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it so carefully because you.

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>> Justin Rexing: Don'T want to break it.

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>> Chris Dechter: This says source on it. Is that right?

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, exactly.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: It's just easier to, just easier

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to cut it than.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, just like just cut the end off, buy a new one, put it in.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Let's get started. Oh dear. Oh dear. Yeah, so I

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mean, and just as a quick disclaimer or

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technical correction, um, I've updated

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that as our standard practice. Now,

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uh, five or six years ago, our max was

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40ft. Um, budget

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constraints, trying to drive cost to the ground.

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I would fast to use a 40 foot HDMI cable than not

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have a speaker. To the unnamed person in this

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room. Please, please

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don't be mad at me.

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I got a side eye putting the A in a.

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>> Justin Rexing: Why am I getting strays over here?

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>> Larry Darling: I'm just saying, man.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Well said.

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>> Justin Rexing: I didn't do Nothing.

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>> Lisle Waldron: You were on time. Oh, more strays.

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>> Justin Rexing: There you go.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: I'm on brand, bro. That's what I'm saying.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Hey yo, he's right.

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>> Chris Dechter: All right, uh, Justin, let's, so let's, let's go to you. What, what's

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your, what AV side dish did you bring to today's

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celebration?

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>> Justin Rexing: Well, in the last 30 minutes I whipped up three side dishes

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off the top of my brain here. So one would

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be button panels with built in processors

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because they just save us so much money and time and the

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clients love them and they love not spending money on an uh,

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external processor and touch panel when you don't need it or don't

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have to have it. So shout out to you button panels

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out there. You're awesome. All in one conference

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bars. We all hate them. But guess what guys,

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you know, they kind of make our lives easier in those small and mid

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conference rooms and we're all tired of looking at all the marketing.

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But guess what? They, they work in the right

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application. So kudos.

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>> Chris Dechter: We all hate them though.

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, we kind of talk shit about them a lot. I feel like

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where they make sense, they're.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: I think we talk about them because they're sold to us and we

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have people ask us the questions we're tired of talking

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about. Correct way of using them.

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>> Justin Rexing: Right.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Similar to. I saw one earlier today. I have a room

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of, it's 150. Can I use four

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sound bars like.

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>> Larry Darling: Oh my God, yes you can.

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>> Chris Dechter: Yes please. And extend all USBs.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Well, can you? Yes, should, you know, will it work?

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Do anything?

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Anything's possible.

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>> Lisle Waldron: You could do anything, Mark. Well said.

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>> Justin Rexing: Uh, you know, third one, Third one

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is software. So I, you know, we have all these different

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softwares out there. We always talk about it. Uh, all these design

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softwares and oh, project management software. We have this

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software, we have that software. Guess what? You need

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one, it's AutoCAD. That's

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it. And guess what? It's not hard

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to use. You use like four to five

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commands and once you learn that,

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you're like, man, I could make all this stuff myself.

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up front to develop all your templates, the

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time developing designs on the back end greatly is

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reduced.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Okay.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Mhm.

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>> Justin Rexing: That's. And I know, oh, you could do that in the software and

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this. But guess what? I have full control over

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my whole library. I don't have to worry about cloud

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services. I don't have to pay for any kind of

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templates once I make it, it's mine.

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And that's that.

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>> Chris Dechter: Except when you attach it to another project and it gets out there and

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people then steal that and then send it to me. Now you

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get all upset because somebody stole all your

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detail designs for your cable pin outs.

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, those are PDFs, so they would have to redraw it

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anyway. So if you want to redraw and copy my shit

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and redraw all that, then you know, I take that as a.

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I take that as a compliment because you're going to spend that much time

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redrawing it the way I drew it. I guess

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that's.

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>> Lisle Waldron: I'm a physio guy, so I'm sorry. I'm good.

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>> Justin Rexing: It's not.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Gets it done.

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, Vizio can work if you stay

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in that world. It's just for me it's harder to use. It's not as

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flexible as AutoCAD. Like everybody when you talk AutoCAD it's

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like, oh, that's a beast. And you got to learn so much

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and it can be a beast, but.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Mhm.

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>> Justin Rexing: I don't use it that way.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Different audiences. If you're dealing with a lot of capital projects, dealing with

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construction documents and all that stuff day in and day out, by

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all means.

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>> Justin Rexing: And it's like, well, how did you teach, how did you learn AutoCAD? Well, you

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start with the line command and then once you get

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that figured out, and then you start with a circle and

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then once you get that figured out, you start with a square and then you

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just build upon it.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: And then what are these concepts you're talking about here?

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, you learn. Right.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Groups.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Piece of paper and a paper and a pencil. Right? Yeah.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Napkin.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Erase papers, raft papers, the fancy stuff. That's where you

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get those lines straight.

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>> Justin Rexing: So if you're, if you've been wanting to use AutoCAD and you're

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scared because it's complex, watch two for YouTube

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videos and move on and try it.

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>> Lisle Waldron: YouTube.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah.

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>> Justin Rexing: Yeah.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: So what, what would you likened this

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trifecta of tools? What's our flavor palette here?

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What'd you bring? What was the delicacy?

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>> Justin Rexing: So I brought cigars for

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dessert, for after dessert. So I think

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somebody brought dessert.

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>> Chris Dechter: Hang. Yeah, hang on to those, we'll do them in a minute.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, we'll get.

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>> Justin Rexing: Oh, we're gonna do that? Well, Mark asked. I don't know.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: But yeah, I just want to know. Everybody showed up with something. You want to talk about

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>> Lisle Waldron: Cigars, side dish, by the way for me was, um.

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Is this thing called Kalaloo So if anybody's been to the

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Caribbean, it's like, green. That does not help

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you all at all.

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>> Justin Rexing: Depending on flavor, a lot of

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different things.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Think of cheesy, uh, spinach without the cheese.

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>> Justin Rexing: That could also be a lot of different things.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: That's just spinach.

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>> Larry Darling: Spinach, right.

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>> Lisle Waldron: So callaloo is a derivative of kind of

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spinach, kind of maybe kind of not the Caribbean. People listening to

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this are having a fit right now. Um, in Jamaica, it's

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dry, so it's like a bowl of dried stuff. Stuff. And the

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further south, you get cereal soup.

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>> Justin Rexing: It's like cereal soup.

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>> Lisle Waldron: It's like green cereal. The further up the Caribbean, cereal

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soup.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: That tastes like spinach and cheese without the cheese. Is that. Yes,

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what I'm getting here.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Perfect. And, uh, that comes with this or.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Just like, a topping of sorts. What. How are we consuming this?

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>> Lisle Waldron: Spread it on island. You can, but I wouldn't

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do that. That's like, hard times. Dinner.

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>> Justin Rexing: Okay.

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>> Lisle Waldron: That's like, things are really bad. Um, but depending on the

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island you go to and the hotel you went to, they're gonna tell you it's a soup. That's

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a lie. Nobody actually drinks color like, it's a

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soup. But, um, we do throw it, like, on top of the rice or throw it on top of

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stuff or have it, like, as a side dish on the plate and eat it. So that's.

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>> Justin Rexing: Ly. Do you. You drink your soup or do you.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Eat soup in the Caribbean, we

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eat soup.

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>> Justin Rexing: You eat soup?

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>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah. I'll tell you why.

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>> Justin Rexing: You don't drink it?

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>> Lisle Waldron: No, our soups are not like American soups. So they're not like clam

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chowdery, chicken noodley. Our soups are

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full of carrots and yams and

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dasheen and a ton of, like, more borderline.

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>> Justin Rexing: We have that here. It's called. It's called vegetable soup

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>> Lisle Waldron: No, no, but. Right, but it's like that. But it's thicker, so it's.

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It's like you can't. Like, you can't put this in an ivy bag and

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consume. You have to. There's a lot.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Soup.

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>> Chris Dechter: You put soup.

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>> Lisle Waldron: There's a lot of chewing. There's a lot of chewing taking place

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No, it's. It's actually kind of like chili in South America.

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>> Justin Rexing: It's like burgu. Is it like Burguard?

468
00:17:59,249 --> 00:18:01,475
>> Lisle Waldron: Nah, this I'm not gumbo.

469
00:18:01,895 --> 00:18:02,543
>> Justin Rexing: Gumbo.

470
00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:04,319
>> Lisle Waldron: So gumbo is going to be a close.

471
00:18:04,447 --> 00:18:05,247
>> Justin Rexing: Okay, so gumbo.

472
00:18:05,271 --> 00:18:05,711
>> Marc Cholewczynski: We got there.

473
00:18:05,743 --> 00:18:07,399
>> Justin Rexing: We got there.

474
00:18:07,527 --> 00:18:09,183
>> Chris Dechter: I want 13% credit. There you go.

475
00:18:09,234 --> 00:18:11,503
>> Lisle Waldron: You can get 15. I can give you 15.

476
00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:14,340
Right. I'm anti up. Uh, it's the closest gumbo. But, um,

477
00:18:14,471 --> 00:18:17,215
the base of our soups are usually split

478
00:18:17,255 --> 00:18:20,167
peas based. So that gives it already a creaminess

479
00:18:20,231 --> 00:18:23,199
and a thickness. And then when you add all of those carbs,

480
00:18:23,247 --> 00:18:25,725
because that's basically what it is. Is going to thicken it up even

481
00:18:25,765 --> 00:18:28,437
more. And then you have to like, let's go pick your

482
00:18:28,461 --> 00:18:31,285
meat. So it's going to be like beef soup or chicken soup

483
00:18:31,325 --> 00:18:34,293
or oxtail soup or cow, uh, heel soup. Trust me. Don't knock

484
00:18:34,309 --> 00:18:37,213
it till the truck. There's nothing that tastes better than the knuckle of a

485
00:18:37,229 --> 00:18:40,229
coat. I'm telling you, it's crazy, but it's great. Um, and

486
00:18:40,237 --> 00:18:43,069
yeah. And trust me, it's. It's just beautiful. It's great. You can't.

487
00:18:43,117 --> 00:18:43,661
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Sounds delicious.

488
00:18:43,693 --> 00:18:46,501
>> Lisle Waldron: Good stuff. But yeah, it's definitely eat. It's not drink.

489
00:18:46,653 --> 00:18:49,021
The only soup we have that you drink is fish.

490
00:18:49,173 --> 00:18:51,909
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I get a sting suspicion. When you. If you put this in a refrigerator,

491
00:18:51,997 --> 00:18:53,941
it's going to congeal into like a solid mask.

492
00:18:54,013 --> 00:18:54,525
>> Lisle Waldron: Solid.

493
00:18:54,645 --> 00:18:55,037
>> Chris Dechter: Solid.

494
00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:55,757
>> Marc Cholewczynski: That's. That's.

495
00:18:55,861 --> 00:18:58,405
>> Justin Rexing: So you chew percent chew it like a

496
00:18:58,445 --> 00:18:59,189
granola bar.

497
00:18:59,237 --> 00:19:01,901
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. Put in the fridge, you have a soup. You have a soup freezer.

498
00:19:01,933 --> 00:19:02,541
>> Lisle Waldron: A spoon. Sorry.

499
00:19:02,573 --> 00:19:04,305
>> Chris Dechter: On you winging it, people?

500
00:19:04,725 --> 00:19:07,597
>> Lisle Waldron: No, you can. You don't even need to freeze that to wing it. You could wing it after one

501
00:19:07,621 --> 00:19:08,309
night in the fridge.

502
00:19:08,357 --> 00:19:11,333
>> Chris Dechter: So Justin's idea of the granola bar soup that

503
00:19:11,349 --> 00:19:12,665
he's carrying on eating.

504
00:19:13,045 --> 00:19:15,917
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah. It's basically like a dried. Like if you're a mountain man

505
00:19:15,941 --> 00:19:18,477
and you. You have to rehydrate. So when this thing comes

506
00:19:18,501 --> 00:19:20,733
over on.

507
00:19:20,749 --> 00:19:22,305
>> Justin Rexing: It and like expands.

508
00:19:22,645 --> 00:19:24,545
>> Jamie Rinehart: What the hell is happening here?

509
00:19:25,245 --> 00:19:26,005
>> Marc Cholewczynski: We got there.

510
00:19:26,085 --> 00:19:27,053
>> Chris Dechter: Welcome to C Talk.

511
00:19:27,149 --> 00:19:27,905
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Did it.

512
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,653
>> Chris Dechter: Um, who's next? Jamie. What's on your. What's your AV

513
00:19:32,709 --> 00:19:33,373
side dish?

514
00:19:33,469 --> 00:19:35,865
>> Justin Rexing: I'm still trying to vision what this looks like.

515
00:19:36,525 --> 00:19:38,325
>> Chris Dechter: You had the Internet in front of you.

516
00:19:38,405 --> 00:19:39,065
>> Larry Darling: Yes.

517
00:19:39,445 --> 00:19:41,141
>> Lisle Waldron: I'm gonna go send you a link.

518
00:19:41,293 --> 00:19:42,389
>> Justin Rexing: Send me a link.

519
00:19:42,517 --> 00:19:43,077
>> Lisle Waldron: Yes.

520
00:19:43,181 --> 00:19:44,985
>> Justin Rexing: Would you say it was called goulash?

521
00:19:45,365 --> 00:19:47,661
>> Larry Darling: No, that's. That's different.

522
00:19:47,733 --> 00:19:49,465
>> Chris Dechter: I think we started with Callaloo.

523
00:19:51,125 --> 00:19:53,141
>> Jamie Rinehart: Okay. He's gonna get you set up.

524
00:19:53,253 --> 00:19:54,385
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Welcome to the party.

525
00:19:56,045 --> 00:19:56,945
>> Lisle Waldron: Jesus.

526
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,500
>> Jamie Rinehart: Um, so the. My AV side dish,

527
00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,333
um, recently, um, it's kind of a

528
00:20:03,349 --> 00:20:06,341
new fad. Um, I'm kind of like the

529
00:20:06,533 --> 00:20:08,949
little. The network video decoders from

530
00:20:09,037 --> 00:20:11,665
manual. I use a lot of NDI now,

531
00:20:11,705 --> 00:20:14,125
right. And so they have the like.

532
00:20:14,705 --> 00:20:17,233
They have all in One

533
00:20:17,289 --> 00:20:19,713
to HDMI or SDI or

534
00:20:19,809 --> 00:20:22,417
NDI to all in One or whatever it's called.

535
00:20:22,601 --> 00:20:25,385
But it has on the outputs, it has an SDI

536
00:20:25,425 --> 00:20:27,165
out and an HDMI out.

537
00:20:27,825 --> 00:20:30,497
So pick your capture card at that moment, doesn't

538
00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:33,193
matter. And then on the

539
00:20:33,209 --> 00:20:36,081
ingest, you know, it's not only full ndi, but it's

540
00:20:36,113 --> 00:20:38,787
all the versions of hx. And it's

541
00:20:38,891 --> 00:20:41,547
very reliable with just plain old RTSP

542
00:20:41,611 --> 00:20:44,587
streams if you're taking them right out of cameras or right off of

543
00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:47,451
other appliances. And it's got an API

544
00:20:47,483 --> 00:20:50,175
that easy switchable. I mean,

545
00:20:50,515 --> 00:20:53,507
the darn things have been a nice little

546
00:20:53,571 --> 00:20:56,171
appetizer on, you know, for. For my

547
00:20:56,203 --> 00:20:59,163
AV dinner. And uh, they just kind

548
00:20:59,179 --> 00:21:02,179
of go. So it's kind

549
00:21:02,187 --> 00:21:03,395
of my just extenders.

550
00:21:03,435 --> 00:21:06,051
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Converters, all the above, like these. What's the

551
00:21:06,083 --> 00:21:08,815
primary like? What's the mission?

552
00:21:09,115 --> 00:21:11,219
>> Jamie Rinehart: Well, since I. Since I use a lot of the ndi.

553
00:21:11,347 --> 00:21:11,611
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah.

554
00:21:11,643 --> 00:21:14,555
>> Jamie Rinehart: Since I use a lot of NDI cameras and there's occasionally

555
00:21:14,595 --> 00:21:17,211
where I'll squeeze one in. Like some of Panasonic's

556
00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,760
can't have the ndi, uh,

557
00:21:20,187 --> 00:21:23,123
license on them, but they have a very high quality

558
00:21:23,179 --> 00:21:26,179
H264,265 stream that comes outside back

559
00:21:26,187 --> 00:21:28,815
side of it. It's one cable to any camera,

560
00:21:29,195 --> 00:21:31,989
one cable to camera. Poe, fire it up.

561
00:21:32,117 --> 00:21:34,661
I get the network stream right off the camera. The latency

562
00:21:34,693 --> 00:21:37,545
is acceptable for what we're trying to do with it.

563
00:21:38,060 --> 00:21:40,861
Um, and now I can have one

564
00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:43,861
device that's relatively inexpensive that sits

565
00:21:43,933 --> 00:21:46,460
in front of my computer, uh,

566
00:21:46,949 --> 00:21:49,749
du jour, um, for

567
00:21:49,877 --> 00:21:52,757
conferencing or recording or whatever, and

568
00:21:52,821 --> 00:21:55,505
can ingest all of that off the standard network.

569
00:21:56,895 --> 00:21:59,799
If you just go out and get some of these NDI decoders,

570
00:21:59,847 --> 00:22:02,831
they don't do the other streams. Or if you go do the other streams,

571
00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:05,687
they don't do ndi. And. And that little module

572
00:22:05,711 --> 00:22:08,471
one, it'll pull SRT streams, it'll pull NDI streams, it'll

573
00:22:08,503 --> 00:22:10,355
pull RTSP it

574
00:22:11,575 --> 00:22:14,415
and even some of the. The audio streams as well.

575
00:22:14,575 --> 00:22:17,135
So I'm really impressed with it. It's pretty

576
00:22:17,175 --> 00:22:17,927
inexpensive.

577
00:22:18,071 --> 00:22:20,591
>> Chris Dechter: Magewell makes a whole bunch of stuff. Which one is it that you use?

578
00:22:20,743 --> 00:22:22,831
>> Jamie Rinehart: I think it's the, um. It's the

579
00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:25,527
NDI to AIO to all in

580
00:22:25,551 --> 00:22:28,095
One. They haven't.

581
00:22:28,175 --> 00:22:31,079
>> Chris Dechter: They have the name though. It does, it does 264 and

582
00:22:31,087 --> 00:22:32,119
SRT and stuff like that.

583
00:22:32,207 --> 00:22:33,215
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yes. It does a bunch of them.

584
00:22:33,255 --> 00:22:33,955
>> Chris Dechter: Interesting.

585
00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,207
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Um, so we all want AV over IP to

586
00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:39,983
work, but it seemingly doesn't for some. I don't really know why.

587
00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:43,007
Like. Yeah, why can't it just be like send the stream

588
00:22:43,031 --> 00:22:45,095
and be done? Like, why does it got to be all this other stuff?

589
00:22:45,255 --> 00:22:48,095
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah. And you know, and I use it for camera

590
00:22:48,135 --> 00:22:50,727
ingestion 99% of the

591
00:22:50,751 --> 00:22:53,607
time. Um, and it works. It works great.

592
00:22:53,671 --> 00:22:56,395
And it's again, relatively inexpensive and

593
00:22:57,295 --> 00:23:00,199
I now have flexibility in my. In my transport

594
00:23:00,247 --> 00:23:01,239
on my camera signal.

595
00:23:01,287 --> 00:23:04,231
>> Chris Dechter: So single cable from the camera, you get your video and you get your power.

596
00:23:04,343 --> 00:23:07,343
Everything runs back and then is it powered from the. Where's it

597
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,195
powering from?

598
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,875
>> Jamie Rinehart: Uh, it's poe.

599
00:23:13,135 --> 00:23:14,373
>> Chris Dechter: Okay, cool.

600
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,305
>> Jamie Rinehart: So it's POE or USB if you plug it in via

601
00:23:17,345 --> 00:23:19,605
usb. But I never trust USB power.

602
00:23:20,145 --> 00:23:22,177
So I power it from the works.

603
00:23:22,201 --> 00:23:24,841
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Great. While you're watching it, if you turn away, come back.

604
00:23:24,953 --> 00:23:25,417
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah.

605
00:23:25,521 --> 00:23:27,721
>> Chris Dechter: Highest quality phone power supply.

606
00:23:27,913 --> 00:23:30,841
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, it's crap. So I. That's.

607
00:23:30,873 --> 00:23:33,833
Yeah, that's. That's been my, my side dish of uh, choice

608
00:23:33,889 --> 00:23:34,565
lately.

609
00:23:37,465 --> 00:23:39,345
>> Chris Dechter: Interesting. I'm digging through specs.

610
00:23:39,385 --> 00:23:40,643
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Let's try to find next.

611
00:23:40,819 --> 00:23:43,731
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah, I've been looking for one Boot Dogs box, um, is the other

612
00:23:43,763 --> 00:23:45,695
thing I was looking at. So thanks for watching.

613
00:23:46,275 --> 00:23:49,259
>> Jamie Rinehart: I like the Bird Dog mini, but it's mostly ndi.

614
00:23:49,347 --> 00:23:52,211
Full, full bandwidth. Um, I did

615
00:23:52,243 --> 00:23:54,683
like it. And they haven't come out if they ever would.

616
00:23:54,739 --> 00:23:57,523
Finally. God forbid. Bird Dog. If you're listening to this,

617
00:23:57,579 --> 00:23:58,179
the pod.

618
00:23:58,267 --> 00:24:01,267
>> Lisle Waldron: Where it's NDI straight to USB is what I'm, um. Yes, the pod

619
00:24:01,291 --> 00:24:02,019
is what I'm dealing with.

620
00:24:02,147 --> 00:24:04,947
>> Jamie Rinehart: It's been vaporware for three years now. And if they

621
00:24:04,971 --> 00:24:07,427
ever come out with it, I'll buy a thousand of them.

622
00:24:07,611 --> 00:24:08,523
>> Lisle Waldron: Agreed. Me too.

623
00:24:08,579 --> 00:24:10,655
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Do you use the little Kilo views by chance?

624
00:24:10,995 --> 00:24:13,735
>> Jamie Rinehart: I looked into them several times because.

625
00:24:14,435 --> 00:24:17,251
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Army knife thing because they have the multi I and the O

626
00:24:17,283 --> 00:24:18,987
and they're fairly affordable.

627
00:24:19,131 --> 00:24:22,011
>> Jamie Rinehart: I gotta be honest. I know they're all Chinese.

628
00:24:22,083 --> 00:24:25,067
I know. But that one is more Chinese than most it

629
00:24:25,091 --> 00:24:27,215
does seem. And it makes me a little nervous.

630
00:24:29,995 --> 00:24:32,795
>> Larry Darling: Guy said I know more Chinese.

631
00:24:32,835 --> 00:24:35,771
>> Justin Rexing: Like it's deeper in the, uh. Some kind of like

632
00:24:35,843 --> 00:24:37,379
do they got backcountry up there.

633
00:24:37,467 --> 00:24:40,443
>> Jamie Rinehart: I'm not so worried about China. Yeah, I'm not so worried about

634
00:24:40,499 --> 00:24:43,015
the, the underlying software firmware

635
00:24:43,555 --> 00:24:46,267
on the network distributing things

636
00:24:46,371 --> 00:24:48,971
and a uh, monoprice HDMI cable as I

637
00:24:49,003 --> 00:24:51,931
am the NDI encoder decoder

638
00:24:51,963 --> 00:24:53,815
box that's designed to sit on,

639
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,603
um, you know, because Kiloview has

640
00:24:57,619 --> 00:25:00,335
some really cool things, especially if you're in the.

641
00:25:00,895 --> 00:25:03,855
We got called from Teddy last week and he wanted to know more about his

642
00:25:03,935 --> 00:25:06,359
wireless broadcast of NDI from a, ah, baseball

643
00:25:06,407 --> 00:25:09,247
field. Akilavu's got some really cool things and

644
00:25:09,271 --> 00:25:11,399
interesting things that would fit that need

645
00:25:11,487 --> 00:25:14,447
perfectly. They just make me a little

646
00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:15,715
queasy sometimes.

647
00:25:16,855 --> 00:25:19,831
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I think they're attractive for us because they

648
00:25:19,863 --> 00:25:21,047
do the multi thing.

649
00:25:21,071 --> 00:25:21,183
>> Chris Dechter: Right.

650
00:25:21,199 --> 00:25:24,111
>> Marc Cholewczynski: You want to do ndi, you want to do srt, you want to do whatever it is

651
00:25:24,143 --> 00:25:26,951
they're doing all that. And for the most part they do

652
00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:29,685
just work. Now am I gonna trust everything on that?

653
00:25:30,145 --> 00:25:33,057
I don't know. But they work for events that have a definitive beginning

654
00:25:33,081 --> 00:25:33,857
and end.

655
00:25:34,041 --> 00:25:34,845
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah.

656
00:25:35,185 --> 00:25:38,001
>> Chris Dechter: And I have supposed those events that don't have

657
00:25:38,113 --> 00:25:38,737
ends.

658
00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:41,713
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. I don't like classrooms and like, it just needs to

659
00:25:41,729 --> 00:25:43,281
go all the time. I'm not sure if I'm gonna trust it.

660
00:25:43,353 --> 00:25:44,205
>> Chris Dechter: Oh, I see.

661
00:25:44,545 --> 00:25:47,500
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah. Yeah. I'm just surprised Chris didn't pull his hair out, that's all. Uh,

662
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,845
we talked about ndi.

663
00:25:49,145 --> 00:25:52,113
>> Chris Dechter: I have no issues. But to Mark's point, NDI is great as

664
00:25:52,129 --> 00:25:54,285
long as you can go in and regularly reboot the stuff.

665
00:25:56,035 --> 00:25:58,531
>> Jamie Rinehart: I don't, I don't ever have that problem.

666
00:25:58,643 --> 00:26:01,355
>> Chris Dechter: You live in some sort of, uh, weird, like, NDI compatible

667
00:26:01,395 --> 00:26:02,635
zone. I don't know how that works.

668
00:26:02,675 --> 00:26:03,255
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah.

669
00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:05,443
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Design the work or do you just.

670
00:26:05,459 --> 00:26:07,211
>> Chris Dechter: Like, reboot your state periodically?

671
00:26:07,323 --> 00:26:09,875
>> Jamie Rinehart: All the time. The cameras, they just.

672
00:26:09,915 --> 00:26:12,707
>> Justin Rexing: He put in a Crestron processor to reboot the pd.

673
00:26:12,771 --> 00:26:15,675
>> Lisle Waldron: We have island power failures every weekend on our site. So we.

674
00:26:15,715 --> 00:26:17,027
>> Chris Dechter: So for you, NDI is great.

675
00:26:17,131 --> 00:26:19,963
>> Justin Rexing: Yeah. You can use NDI all over. It's like reboots itself

676
00:26:20,019 --> 00:26:20,775
every day.

677
00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:24,117
>> Chris Dechter: National NDI compatibility, mind you,

678
00:26:24,141 --> 00:26:24,781
Jamie, we're.

679
00:26:24,813 --> 00:26:27,637
>> Lisle Waldron: Actually using the NDI tools, uh, on,

680
00:26:27,741 --> 00:26:30,693
on Zoom Room PC for ingestion because, you

681
00:26:30,709 --> 00:26:32,125
know, budget who comes.

682
00:26:32,285 --> 00:26:33,585
>> Justin Rexing: Oh, that's scary.

683
00:26:34,365 --> 00:26:37,157
>> Lisle Waldron: It is. But it works. I must sound like Jamie now. Works

684
00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:37,685
beautifully.

685
00:26:37,765 --> 00:26:38,661
>> Marc Cholewczynski: If it works, it works.

686
00:26:38,733 --> 00:26:40,145
>> Justin Rexing: It sometimes works.

687
00:26:41,845 --> 00:26:43,005
>> Jamie Rinehart: No, I think if it was.

688
00:26:43,085 --> 00:26:44,225
>> Larry Darling: Whatever that is.

689
00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,585
>> Jamie Rinehart: 1. I don't deploy

690
00:26:48,445 --> 00:26:51,419
systems very often, but I think if I was deploying

691
00:26:51,467 --> 00:26:54,299
those and I had it set up where

692
00:26:54,387 --> 00:26:57,067
it was part of the installation package it was designed to

693
00:26:57,091 --> 00:27:00,059
run. Because one of the problems I don't run with it

694
00:27:00,107 --> 00:27:03,075
now on regular PCs is because it has to run at the administrative

695
00:27:03,115 --> 00:27:05,995
level. But when you create

696
00:27:06,035 --> 00:27:08,835
the Zoom, um, rooms PC, it's already running at that level

697
00:27:08,915 --> 00:27:11,795
and I would trust it in that scenario. I just

698
00:27:11,835 --> 00:27:12,811
don't do it.

699
00:27:13,003 --> 00:27:15,861
>> Lisle Waldron: There you go. So I'm Unmanaged PC. In that case, it's not

700
00:27:15,893 --> 00:27:18,797
on the domain. It's not all that drama. It's basically localized to

701
00:27:18,821 --> 00:27:21,573
switch. So ptz optics camera to switch,

702
00:27:21,629 --> 00:27:24,157
port from switchport to, uh, you know, as.

703
00:27:24,181 --> 00:27:27,069
>> Marc Cholewczynski: They designed it to do nothing. The world is like, hey, just do this.

704
00:27:27,117 --> 00:27:29,981
>> Chris Dechter: You're like, okay, Doc, Larry, do you want to just leave the

705
00:27:30,013 --> 00:27:30,205
call?

706
00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:33,101
>> Lisle Waldron: So you're just, like, cooling

707
00:27:33,133 --> 00:27:34,245
up. This is like.

708
00:27:34,325 --> 00:27:37,293
>> Jamie Rinehart: You're like, straight up pirate down there, man. You're just like,

709
00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:38,597
there's no law here.

710
00:27:38,701 --> 00:27:39,985
There's no rules.

711
00:27:40,445 --> 00:27:43,045
>> Lisle Waldron: Technically, my initials are, uh, law. So

712
00:27:43,125 --> 00:27:46,047
as. As. As one Sylvester Stallone said a

713
00:27:46,071 --> 00:27:48,839
long time ago, let me date myself. I am the

714
00:27:48,887 --> 00:27:49,475
law.

715
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,879
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Uh, what. The delicious morsel you brought to eat with you,

716
00:27:54,927 --> 00:27:56,599
Jamie. What did you say? I missed it?

717
00:27:56,647 --> 00:27:59,583
>> Jamie Rinehart: Oh, man, it's. It's a side hungry. It's a

718
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:02,175
side dish. It's a Midwest side dish, right? It's sweet

719
00:28:02,215 --> 00:28:03,535
potatoes, right? Sweet potatoes.

720
00:28:03,575 --> 00:28:05,543
>> Lisle Waldron: Flavorful, spicy.

721
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:08,279
>> Jamie Rinehart: It is such a dessert. It's not even funny.

722
00:28:08,327 --> 00:28:11,167
>> Marc Cholewczynski: You doing, like, the melons and cinnamon and all that.

723
00:28:11,311 --> 00:28:14,213
>> Jamie Rinehart: So it starts. It starts with, you know, it's. It's this

724
00:28:14,269 --> 00:28:17,245
Midwest. It's butter. You just cut up the sweet

725
00:28:17,285 --> 00:28:19,741
potato, right? Cube this thing up, uh, put it in a dish.

726
00:28:19,813 --> 00:28:20,621
>> Chris Dechter: You don't even need the.

727
00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:21,389
>> Jamie Rinehart: You know.

728
00:28:21,517 --> 00:28:24,197
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah, like

729
00:28:24,301 --> 00:28:24,821
butter.

730
00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:26,133
>> Jamie Rinehart: Brick of butter.

731
00:28:26,309 --> 00:28:26,893
>> Chris Dechter: A brick.

732
00:28:26,949 --> 00:28:27,533
>> Jamie Rinehart: And then.

733
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:28,705
>> Lisle Waldron: Oh, God.

734
00:28:30,285 --> 00:28:33,109
>> Jamie Rinehart: What? You need a brick of butter. It's good. And butter.

735
00:28:33,157 --> 00:28:35,745
Not margarine. Not only butter.

736
00:28:36,165 --> 00:28:38,863
And the second is like, you know,

737
00:28:38,919 --> 00:28:41,455
a shitload of brown

738
00:28:41,495 --> 00:28:43,727
sugar. Those are two new cinnamon.

739
00:28:43,791 --> 00:28:46,575
>> Justin Rexing: Very new measurements to me. I. I've never heard of it.

740
00:28:46,615 --> 00:28:47,391
Like brick.

741
00:28:47,503 --> 00:28:50,503
>> Jamie Rinehart: Well, it's. And then you have to

742
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:53,119
be. You have to be into cooking to know.

743
00:28:53,247 --> 00:28:53,991
You just.

744
00:28:54,063 --> 00:28:56,831
>> Marc Cholewczynski: You have to be shitload right on it. You just sit right

745
00:28:56,863 --> 00:28:57,391
there.

746
00:28:57,543 --> 00:29:00,327
>> Lisle Waldron: I'm not sure I want that load on my mash, but let's

747
00:29:00,351 --> 00:29:00,631
go.

748
00:29:00,703 --> 00:29:03,675
>> Jamie Rinehart: And then, uh. Oh, you put it in there. Some cinnamon.

749
00:29:04,095 --> 00:29:07,039
And then you. If you're really f. You. Maybe some maple

750
00:29:07,087 --> 00:29:09,823
syrup, some walnuts, and top that

751
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,727
sucker with marshmallows. Trust me, it's a side dish. It's

752
00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,127
probably healthy because it's sweet.

753
00:29:14,231 --> 00:29:16,967
>> Chris Dechter: Sweet potatoes, this being Kansas City, I assume,

754
00:29:16,991 --> 00:29:19,375
then barbecue sauce, then. Right. Just right on top.

755
00:29:19,455 --> 00:29:19,743
>> Lisle Waldron: Yes.

756
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,543
>> Jamie Rinehart: And it's not just Kansas City, man. I mean, this goes all the way up Iowa,

757
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,583
Nebraska. I mean, this is so. It's a side dish.

758
00:29:25,639 --> 00:29:28,223
It is a sweet potato side dish. It's not a

759
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:28,903
dessert.

760
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,783
>> Chris Dechter: This was not a dessert. This was big in western Pennsylvania growing

761
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:32,355
up.

762
00:29:32,735 --> 00:29:33,135
>> Jamie Rinehart: Sorry.

763
00:29:33,175 --> 00:29:35,963
>> Lisle Waldron: I know. Identify as, uh, pounds, kilograms. After

764
00:29:36,019 --> 00:29:38,971
hearing that, my. My abbreviation is

765
00:29:39,003 --> 00:29:40,435
lbs.kg.

766
00:29:40,595 --> 00:29:43,507
>> Jamie Rinehart: Well, there's. There's a

767
00:29:43,531 --> 00:29:45,980
reason that we're all healthy. Um,

768
00:29:46,235 --> 00:29:47,611
there's a reason we're all healthy.

769
00:29:47,643 --> 00:29:49,455
>> Larry Darling: Here for 40 years.

770
00:29:51,635 --> 00:29:52,455
>> Lisle Waldron: I mean.

771
00:29:55,835 --> 00:29:58,683
>> Jamie Rinehart: Different connotations to healthy. You can be healthy and trim,

772
00:29:58,739 --> 00:30:01,211
or you can be. Oh, whoa, they're healthy.

773
00:30:01,363 --> 00:30:03,147
>> Justin Rexing: Healthy and big bones. You look healthy.

774
00:30:03,211 --> 00:30:04,115
>> Lisle Waldron: You look like you eat well.

775
00:30:04,155 --> 00:30:04,875
>> Justin Rexing: Big boned.

776
00:30:04,995 --> 00:30:06,651
>> Jamie Rinehart: You eat well, you're healthy.

777
00:30:06,763 --> 00:30:08,495
>> Lisle Waldron: That's me. That's me right there.

778
00:30:09,515 --> 00:30:10,875
>> Jamie Rinehart: Meat and potatoes.

779
00:30:11,035 --> 00:30:13,907
>> Chris Dechter: So, Jamie, you're saying when you go into a public place, you want people to

780
00:30:13,931 --> 00:30:16,491
stop and go, oh, that's a healthy

781
00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:17,135
dude.

782
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,095
>> Justin Rexing: Um, that man can eat.

783
00:30:23,475 --> 00:30:24,779
>> Chris Dechter: 600 pounds.

784
00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:25,800
>> Justin Rexing: All right, all right.

785
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,180
>> Chris Dechter: Um, let's see. Where'd we. So, Mark, uh,

786
00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:31,013
what'd you bring to Thanksgiving? I don't know where we

787
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:31,585
are.

788
00:30:31,965 --> 00:30:33,133
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Mine's wholesome.

789
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:35,157
>> Chris Dechter: I'm just gonna go back around Lisle start again.

790
00:30:35,301 --> 00:30:36,305
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Very wholesome.

791
00:30:37,765 --> 00:30:40,220
>> Jamie Rinehart: He's probably got, like, granola. Ah.

792
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:43,117
>> Justin Rexing: Like whole milk soup.

793
00:30:43,141 --> 00:30:45,500
>> Marc Cholewczynski: How can I top granola soup from earlier? But,

794
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:48,029
um, my side

795
00:30:48,077 --> 00:30:50,893
dish is something I think every AV system

796
00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:52,585
needs and,

797
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,243
uh, will keep your sanity.

798
00:30:55,419 --> 00:30:57,747
>> Jamie Rinehart: And you say teams pick your.

799
00:30:57,811 --> 00:31:00,747
>> Marc Cholewczynski: No, it's not. No, it's not teams. No.

800
00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:03,643
It's actually like the little cute IP

801
00:31:03,699 --> 00:31:06,619
controlled power guys. Little two or three outlet

802
00:31:06,667 --> 00:31:09,595
ones. Yes, those little ones where you can just sprinkle them around like a nice

803
00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,523
seasoning on any meal. They will sanity.

804
00:31:12,579 --> 00:31:15,555
Those are sanity boxes. Right? And I think it is

805
00:31:15,595 --> 00:31:18,563
wholesome. And I think it. If you don't have a way to manage all

806
00:31:18,579 --> 00:31:21,501
the things that have to just. Maybe it's an NDI decoder

807
00:31:21,533 --> 00:31:24,105
of some sort. You have to power on and off every once in a while.

808
00:31:24,405 --> 00:31:25,173
Those little things.

809
00:31:25,229 --> 00:31:25,757
>> Chris Dechter: Daily.

810
00:31:25,901 --> 00:31:28,821
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, whatever it is. Set a schedule. Midnight and you

811
00:31:28,853 --> 00:31:31,821
get call center. Oh, let me see. Oh, let me recite that. Recycle it for you.

812
00:31:31,853 --> 00:31:34,797
Put it back on. Turn it off. Turn it on. Um, whatever. Those

813
00:31:34,821 --> 00:31:37,785
things I think are my slightest choice because I think

814
00:31:38,445 --> 00:31:41,085
they are the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast here.

815
00:31:41,165 --> 00:31:44,125
Right in from a support standpoint. Because if you cannot

816
00:31:44,205 --> 00:31:47,063
control that stuff, you're gonna be ripping your hair out, running all

817
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,607
over campus trying to deal with your systems, because

818
00:31:49,791 --> 00:31:52,751
let's face it, how many times do you just have to turn something on, turn it back off

819
00:31:52,783 --> 00:31:55,687
again. In today's era of modern. Whatever the hell we're

820
00:31:55,711 --> 00:31:58,695
doing. Have you power cycled it, yes or no? Well, you don't have

821
00:31:58,695 --> 00:32:01,319
to ask that question. We'll just take care of that for you. Right.

822
00:32:01,447 --> 00:32:04,080
So, um,

823
00:32:04,175 --> 00:32:06,775
I actually thought about like, well, what, what is making our AV

824
00:32:06,855 --> 00:32:09,671
systems actually work more often? Not. It's being able to power cycle

825
00:32:09,703 --> 00:32:12,399
the things from sanity's point.

826
00:32:12,567 --> 00:32:15,311
And so I'm like, well, I guess it's not necessarily av, but it's a side. It's

827
00:32:15,343 --> 00:32:17,623
adjacent, it's on the dish. At some level.

828
00:32:17,639 --> 00:32:18,671
>> Jamie Rinehart: It's like a dinner roll.

829
00:32:18,743 --> 00:32:21,431
>> Marc Cholewczynski: It's like, it is, it's, and it's. And to me it's,

830
00:32:21,463 --> 00:32:24,159
it's, it's healthy because it's for our sanity and our well

831
00:32:24,167 --> 00:32:27,127
being. All right. And it's, it's good for the

832
00:32:27,151 --> 00:32:27,767
whole family.

833
00:32:27,871 --> 00:32:28,255
>> Chris Dechter: Right?

834
00:32:28,335 --> 00:32:29,015
>> Lisle Waldron: Cheesy broccoli.

835
00:32:29,095 --> 00:32:29,607
>> Justin Rexing: Cheesy broccoli.

836
00:32:29,631 --> 00:32:29,959
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Broccoli.

837
00:32:30,007 --> 00:32:31,479
>> Justin Rexing: So it's like eating a salad.

838
00:32:31,647 --> 00:32:32,447
>> Lisle Waldron: Cheesy broccoli.

839
00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:35,431
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I think it's, it's, to me it's more like a, um, it's wholesome. It's,

840
00:32:35,463 --> 00:32:38,219
it's, it's a, uh, comfort food because

841
00:32:38,307 --> 00:32:41,019
it's allowing us to have some stability at some level.

842
00:32:41,187 --> 00:32:44,035
I equate this to like my stuffing,

843
00:32:44,075 --> 00:32:46,883
my like cranberry everything stuffing. Just cut up whatever veggies

844
00:32:46,939 --> 00:32:49,939
you have creamy, put that in there and you're just going to put that in the

845
00:32:49,947 --> 00:32:52,667
oven. Like when you're almost done with everything, throw it in there and it could be anything.

846
00:32:52,731 --> 00:32:55,427
Just all your stuffing full of whatever sides of whatever you

847
00:32:55,451 --> 00:32:58,323
have. It's wholesome, you can throw gravy on it, whatever you

848
00:32:58,339 --> 00:33:01,267
want. And it's just makes you feel good because things are getting

849
00:33:01,331 --> 00:33:04,241
taken care of and you're not having to run out all over campus. Rainy day.

850
00:33:04,393 --> 00:33:07,273
>> Lisle Waldron: I second this mark firmly and forcefully. Cuz it's

851
00:33:07,289 --> 00:33:09,085
on my list of side dishes.

852
00:33:10,185 --> 00:33:12,201
I second it firmly and forcefully.

853
00:33:12,273 --> 00:33:14,965
>> Marc Cholewczynski: You need it. That's mine. That's my little.

854
00:33:15,665 --> 00:33:18,025
>> Chris Dechter: What was your, what was your side dish you said was cranberry stuffing?

855
00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,961
>> Marc Cholewczynski: It's cranberry stuffing and with veggies and all the other stuff you have

856
00:33:21,073 --> 00:33:24,033
laying around that when you, when you've made everything else, all you're left over

857
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:25,185
is going to your stuffing.

858
00:33:25,345 --> 00:33:28,345
>> Jamie Rinehart: Okay, so are you a. You make the stuffing separate

859
00:33:28,385 --> 00:33:30,653
or you shove it up the butt of a bird?

860
00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:33,237
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I fry my turkeys and other meats.

861
00:33:33,341 --> 00:33:36,229
>> Jamie Rinehart: So it's on the side. So it's legit on the side.

862
00:33:36,277 --> 00:33:38,861
Stuffing and not soak, uh, up all of the

863
00:33:38,893 --> 00:33:40,253
intestines juice from the inside.

864
00:33:40,269 --> 00:33:42,837
>> Chris Dechter: Of the bird or is that

865
00:33:42,901 --> 00:33:43,637
dressing?

866
00:33:43,781 --> 00:33:46,389
>> Larry Darling: There's a difference. Stuffing goes in the bird, dressing

867
00:33:46,437 --> 00:33:47,773
goes on the side.

868
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:49,061
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Well then I guess I'M making.

869
00:33:49,213 --> 00:33:50,221
>> Chris Dechter: Here we go.

870
00:33:50,413 --> 00:33:53,105
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I don't know the legalese. I have to call my lawyer.

871
00:33:53,565 --> 00:33:56,173
It's true. Okay, well, I'll

872
00:33:56,189 --> 00:33:58,415
get, uh. Fine then. It's dressing.

873
00:33:58,835 --> 00:33:59,695
>> Lisle Waldron: We're just.

874
00:34:00,475 --> 00:34:03,235
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Oh my goodness. But yeah, it's all because of the fried

875
00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:04,051
turkey or whatever.

876
00:34:04,163 --> 00:34:05,883
>> Chris Dechter: Quickly Larry jumped in on that too.

877
00:34:06,019 --> 00:34:07,483
>> Justin Rexing: I mean, that must be a thing.

878
00:34:07,539 --> 00:34:10,499
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I don't dare build. Yeah. Barbecue inside

879
00:34:10,547 --> 00:34:12,815
names and like, I'm not gonna go anywhere near it.

880
00:34:13,835 --> 00:34:16,627
>> Justin Rexing: When y'all asked that question, I was like, I don't even. I never even

881
00:34:16,691 --> 00:34:18,819
thought about the difference. Like, I.

882
00:34:18,947 --> 00:34:19,931
>> Larry Darling: There's a difference.

883
00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:22,861
>> Chris Dechter: Next week we'll discuss the difference between frosting and

884
00:34:22,893 --> 00:34:23,509
icing.

885
00:34:23,637 --> 00:34:24,465
>> Lisle Waldron: Yo.

886
00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:28,445
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah, shut up.

887
00:34:28,525 --> 00:34:29,661
>> Lisle Waldron: Some dogmas are more.

888
00:34:29,773 --> 00:34:32,585
>> Justin Rexing: What about a, uh, Frosty and ice cream?

889
00:34:33,565 --> 00:34:34,213
Not so much.

890
00:34:34,269 --> 00:34:36,085
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Frosting is just a derivative of milkshake, is it not?

891
00:34:36,125 --> 00:34:36,485
>> Larry Darling: Yeah.

892
00:34:36,565 --> 00:34:38,613
>> Justin Rexing: Or is it ice cream with like.

893
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:41,573
>> Chris Dechter: A partially gelatinated soybean based beverage of some

894
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:42,173
sort? Isn't it?

895
00:34:42,229 --> 00:34:45,213
>> Lisle Waldron: No, Frosty was the first ice cream. If you go back to history of

896
00:34:45,229 --> 00:34:46,869
ice creams, Frosty was actually the first one.

897
00:34:46,957 --> 00:34:49,883
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Or it's just like you mix it all up off you want it hard,

898
00:34:49,939 --> 00:34:50,595
that kind of thing.

899
00:34:50,675 --> 00:34:53,659
>> Lisle Waldron: No, like first. Like. I mean, um, I might be like a little bit off on

900
00:34:53,667 --> 00:34:56,563
my data here, but ice creams weren't like what we know it to be. No, they were kind

901
00:34:56,579 --> 00:34:59,295
of crappy in the early days. And that's what a Frosty was.

902
00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,815
It was like the first generation ice cream. Swear.

903
00:35:03,355 --> 00:35:06,243
>> Chris Dechter: All right, there's no ice.

904
00:35:06,299 --> 00:35:08,819
>> Jamie Rinehart: I thought a Frosty was just a condiment for your French

905
00:35:08,867 --> 00:35:11,320
fries. Like people use ketchup. Uh,

906
00:35:16,635 --> 00:35:16,660
right.

907
00:35:16,660 --> 00:35:17,137
>> Chris Dechter: M just.

908
00:35:17,171 --> 00:35:17,909
>> Lisle Waldron: Oh, hell no.

909
00:35:17,997 --> 00:35:20,805
>> Jamie Rinehart: I think the Frosty Wendy's Frosty.

910
00:35:20,845 --> 00:35:22,621
And then they're. They're French fries.

911
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:25,061
>> Marc Cholewczynski: But not the new fries. The old fries, the big ones.

912
00:35:25,173 --> 00:35:27,581
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah, I mean, Wendy still has the best fries.

913
00:35:27,613 --> 00:35:29,709
>> Chris Dechter: Getting very specific about types of fries.

914
00:35:29,797 --> 00:35:32,077
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Well, it's got to hold all that weight of that

915
00:35:32,101 --> 00:35:35,069
Frosty fry over here. Come

916
00:35:35,077 --> 00:35:35,625
on.

917
00:35:36,645 --> 00:35:39,005
>> Justin Rexing: Wow, there's that.

918
00:35:39,125 --> 00:35:41,957
>> Chris Dechter: All right, so, um, what I brought was not a side. I brought a

919
00:35:41,981 --> 00:35:44,520
dessert for everyone to share. Um,

920
00:35:44,885 --> 00:35:47,837
I guess the question is, and a question for the panel here.

921
00:35:48,021 --> 00:35:50,893
Does it have to be a product? Because I've got, as you can see on

922
00:35:50,909 --> 00:35:53,813
the notes, there is a huge list of stuff on there

923
00:35:53,869 --> 00:35:55,493
and I'm trying to decide which one I'm m going to pick.

924
00:35:55,549 --> 00:35:56,757
>> Larry Darling: It doesn't have to be a product.

925
00:35:56,861 --> 00:35:58,905
>> Chris Dechter: But does it have to be a product? Because if not.

926
00:36:00,885 --> 00:36:02,341
>> Jamie Rinehart: You bring your own value menu.

927
00:36:02,373 --> 00:36:05,269
>> Chris Dechter: What the Hell, I just. I said I started with

928
00:36:05,317 --> 00:36:08,155
one, and then I kept adding things as I thought about them.

929
00:36:08,285 --> 00:36:09,915
>> Lisle Waldron: Have you just met Chris?

930
00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:13,311
>> Chris Dechter: Um, I'll put the whole list in the show notes. So those of you listening on your car

931
00:36:13,343 --> 00:36:16,279
stereo right now, start scrolling through your phone, look down, don't pay attention to the cars in

932
00:36:16,287 --> 00:36:17,715
front of you. Just do what you want.

933
00:36:18,180 --> 00:36:20,875
Um, so my dessert

934
00:36:21,335 --> 00:36:23,955
side dish, but my dessert dish is going to be

935
00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:27,359
networking. And not that kind of

936
00:36:27,407 --> 00:36:30,391
networking, but like the networking with other schools,

937
00:36:30,503 --> 00:36:33,343
with other organizations, with getting out there, getting

938
00:36:33,439 --> 00:36:36,095
outside your bubble, because

939
00:36:36,435 --> 00:36:39,411
that's where you get the best ideas, is talking with. That's why we're

940
00:36:39,443 --> 00:36:42,427
doing this podcast right now, and it's why you listening are listening to

941
00:36:42,451 --> 00:36:45,115
this podcast right now. Because you want information from other

942
00:36:45,155 --> 00:36:48,051
people. Most of which is how we have screwed up. And we're telling you, please

943
00:36:48,083 --> 00:36:50,795
don't do this. And then you write that down and you don't do it.

944
00:36:50,955 --> 00:36:53,667
But that's the glue that holds together our

945
00:36:53,691 --> 00:36:56,563
AV systems. Because when you get yourself into a bind,

946
00:36:56,659 --> 00:36:59,523
it's that shared knowledge, it's that shared

947
00:36:59,579 --> 00:37:02,577
experience, it's those ideas, those tips and tricks. And Lisle

948
00:37:02,601 --> 00:37:05,481
you were talking before the show. You said, if I watch

949
00:37:05,513 --> 00:37:08,505
one of these webinars and I get one good idea out of it, it was worth the time

950
00:37:08,545 --> 00:37:11,337
sort of thing. So it's. That's where you draw this information

951
00:37:11,441 --> 00:37:14,345
from and getting out there and getting. Getting that information from other

952
00:37:14,385 --> 00:37:17,329
people. And that's what it was able to have us make successful

953
00:37:17,377 --> 00:37:20,153
AV systems in our classrooms. That's my highly pedantic way of

954
00:37:20,169 --> 00:37:22,737
describing 100%. Is that fair?

955
00:37:22,921 --> 00:37:25,585
>> Lisle Waldron: It is. What is your.

956
00:37:25,665 --> 00:37:28,513
>> Chris Dechter: If not my secondary one is going to be my rectal camera with a twisty

957
00:37:28,529 --> 00:37:28,985
knob.

958
00:37:29,105 --> 00:37:30,033
>> Jamie Rinehart: I was going to add one I.

959
00:37:30,049 --> 00:37:30,643
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Wanted to talk about.

960
00:37:30,689 --> 00:37:33,487
>> Jamie Rinehart: I was waiting. I'm like, with all of this food that we're

961
00:37:33,511 --> 00:37:36,119
ingesting, we're going to need the colonoscopy camera here in a

962
00:37:36,127 --> 00:37:36,715
minute.

963
00:37:37,495 --> 00:37:40,231
>> Chris Dechter: Let me ask this question. Is anybody else here on. On the panel

964
00:37:40,263 --> 00:37:43,103
for your install stuff? Does anybody else use the. The rectal camber with the

965
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:43,671
twisting arbor?

966
00:37:43,703 --> 00:37:44,527
>> Marc Cholewczynski: We have them, but we don't.

967
00:37:44,591 --> 00:37:45,515
>> Justin Rexing: I have that.

968
00:37:47,375 --> 00:37:50,295
>> Chris Dechter: I call it that as much as I can and as often as I can

969
00:37:50,335 --> 00:37:52,287
because it makes people around me uncomfortable.

970
00:37:52,431 --> 00:37:55,311
>> Lisle Waldron: I have one in my bag. I've never used it. I bought it to go into my engine

971
00:37:55,343 --> 00:37:57,705
on my car when I had an engine it in my car and to other

972
00:37:57,745 --> 00:37:58,405
places.

973
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,017
>> Chris Dechter: Uh, no, I will just say, so whatever

974
00:38:02,041 --> 00:38:04,697
you want to call it. They are mechanics call it an

975
00:38:04,721 --> 00:38:07,601
inspection camera. Um, I think the, the.

976
00:38:07,673 --> 00:38:10,673
What's the non oscilloscope. What's the term for

977
00:38:10,689 --> 00:38:10,937
it?

978
00:38:11,001 --> 00:38:13,525
>> Lisle Waldron: No, there's something scoop, a boroscope,

979
00:38:14,065 --> 00:38:14,729
something like that.

980
00:38:14,777 --> 00:38:15,617
>> Chris Dechter: Horoscope.

981
00:38:15,801 --> 00:38:16,545
>> Lisle Waldron: Horoscope.

982
00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:19,345
>> Chris Dechter: It's a boroscope, but whatever. Look up rectal

983
00:38:19,385 --> 00:38:22,289
camera. But get the ones with the twisty knobber on it. It'll cost you a

984
00:38:22,297 --> 00:38:25,289
little bit more because it. At the end of the, at the end

985
00:38:25,297 --> 00:38:28,017
of the camera lens there's a head that you can manipulate,

986
00:38:28,121 --> 00:38:31,113
articulate, um, which is great. So trying to figure out where the hell does

987
00:38:31,129 --> 00:38:33,761
that cable go in the wall? What's on the other side of this

988
00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:36,729
conduit? Why isn't this connected? So we used the one this week to fish down one

989
00:38:36,737 --> 00:38:39,537
of those partition, um, demountable, uh, dirt walls, the

990
00:38:39,561 --> 00:38:42,441
dirty walls, and try to figure out where that cable

991
00:38:42,473 --> 00:38:45,217
went to find out that somebody actually fished it between the wall panel and the

992
00:38:45,241 --> 00:38:48,057
insulation. Not actually in the conduit right next to that. So that was

993
00:38:48,081 --> 00:38:50,971
fun. So, uh, it's just useful to have these things

994
00:38:51,003 --> 00:38:53,963
around. Cost you, I would say a high quality one will cost

995
00:38:53,979 --> 00:38:56,963
you a hundred bucks. Um, you can get cheapy ones that plug into your phone and

996
00:38:56,979 --> 00:38:59,939
stuff. I'm like 25 or 30. So there are

997
00:38:59,947 --> 00:39:02,795
options if you want a cheap one. Um, I left one

998
00:39:02,835 --> 00:39:05,707
permanently in a wall at Oregon State. So Mark, if you find that

999
00:39:05,731 --> 00:39:08,171
one bonus to you because it's down in that wall somewhere.

1000
00:39:08,243 --> 00:39:08,855
>> Lisle Waldron: What?

1001
00:39:09,915 --> 00:39:12,483
>> Chris Dechter: That's where I stored it. I was like, I'll just leave this here for, you know,

1002
00:39:12,539 --> 00:39:13,427
for find in.

1003
00:39:13,451 --> 00:39:15,045
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yours next to the fish tape. It's.

1004
00:39:15,115 --> 00:39:18,113
>> Lisle Waldron: So Chris, I have an adjacent for you. I don't know if I could just piggyback on

1005
00:39:18,129 --> 00:39:21,121
that super quickly because I know we're on time. Um, but one of the

1006
00:39:21,153 --> 00:39:24,113
things that I've been mulling a lot of late when I'm

1007
00:39:24,209 --> 00:39:27,161
diving into the humanity of us higher ed tech managers

1008
00:39:27,273 --> 00:39:30,041
is sustainability. But just like you said about networking, not

1009
00:39:30,073 --> 00:39:32,985
sustainability going green, which is where we're all focused, but

1010
00:39:33,025 --> 00:39:35,873
sustainability in our operations. For many of us in

1011
00:39:35,889 --> 00:39:38,865
our schools, we're the chief cook and bottle washer. And if we

1012
00:39:38,905 --> 00:39:41,847
get tired or if we get sick, or if, or if, or if, God

1013
00:39:41,871 --> 00:39:44,767
forbid, um, the whole thing revolves on our

1014
00:39:44,791 --> 00:39:47,671
shoulders. And um, I said in Vegas

1015
00:39:47,783 --> 00:39:50,599
in one of those presentations I was on that.

1016
00:39:50,647 --> 00:39:53,471
I'm really, really comfortable now with having to think

1017
00:39:53,503 --> 00:39:56,415
about how do I do this sustainably as much as anything

1018
00:39:56,455 --> 00:39:59,431
else. I can't afford to make promises that are

1019
00:39:59,463 --> 00:40:02,367
going to get any of us in problems. And I can't

1020
00:40:02,391 --> 00:40:05,071
afford to promise systems and expectations of

1021
00:40:05,103 --> 00:40:07,593
things that I have no sustainable way

1022
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,605
to keep going. So I piggyback your

1023
00:40:10,645 --> 00:40:12,305
networking with some sustainability.

1024
00:40:12,645 --> 00:40:14,893
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Don't do once what you're not willing to do a million times.

1025
00:40:14,989 --> 00:40:17,685
>> Lisle Waldron: Yep. That. He just said it in like five

1026
00:40:17,725 --> 00:40:18,905
words. Damn it.

1027
00:40:19,565 --> 00:40:22,533
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I had this little widget. I'll throw it in here as extra credit. Do you

1028
00:40:22,549 --> 00:40:25,357
all have the long four foot drill bit for when you find yourself

1029
00:40:25,421 --> 00:40:28,005
stuck in a wall and you have to like flexibly drill.

1030
00:40:28,085 --> 00:40:30,309
>> Chris Dechter: Do you use that in combination with your rectal camera?

1031
00:40:30,357 --> 00:40:33,349
>> Marc Cholewczynski: You can. That's what I'm saying. They go hand in hand because. And you

1032
00:40:33,357 --> 00:40:36,215
can put your string in there. Once you get it through there, you can pull through string

1033
00:40:36,255 --> 00:40:38,319
through your real world. Like if you.

1034
00:40:38,447 --> 00:40:40,195
>> Jamie Rinehart: Again, you need this. You need this.

1035
00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:41,823
>> Chris Dechter: No. Yes.

1036
00:40:41,959 --> 00:40:44,927
>> Jamie Rinehart: We need better do not Google rectal camera with

1037
00:40:44,951 --> 00:40:47,695
twisty knobbies in a drilling. Don't do

1038
00:40:47,735 --> 00:40:48,315
that.

1039
00:40:49,615 --> 00:40:51,375
>> Chris Dechter: Four foot drill bit with a pull string.

1040
00:40:51,455 --> 00:40:54,079
>> Lisle Waldron: Yes, exactly. And then hand in hand.

1041
00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:55,620
No, no.

1042
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,231
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Uh, where we're going there.

1043
00:40:57,303 --> 00:40:59,343
>> Jamie Rinehart: Oh, uh, so you brought dessert, Chris.

1044
00:40:59,479 --> 00:41:02,240
>> Chris Dechter: I did. So the dessert that I brought, um,

1045
00:41:02,275 --> 00:41:05,099
is. And you know, before we have dessert, Lisle you

1046
00:41:05,147 --> 00:41:05,643
said.

1047
00:41:05,779 --> 00:41:06,171
>> Lisle Waldron: Yes.

1048
00:41:06,243 --> 00:41:08,347
>> Jamie Rinehart: Old desserts get paired with drinks.

1049
00:41:08,491 --> 00:41:11,475
>> Chris Dechter: Yes. So Lisle you said you had a very special

1050
00:41:11,595 --> 00:41:14,095
overproof rum that we should all try.

1051
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:17,251
>> Lisle Waldron: Uh, well, if we just want to do the overproof to get drunk. Yes. We have a

1052
00:41:17,283 --> 00:41:20,267
rum that's called Forest Park. No, it's not Forest with

1053
00:41:20,291 --> 00:41:23,011
a T. It just is the S. The T fell off because he was too

1054
00:41:23,043 --> 00:41:23,695
drunk.

1055
00:41:24,035 --> 00:41:24,775
>> Jamie Rinehart: Right.

1056
00:41:25,275 --> 00:41:28,203
>> Lisle Waldron: That's at least what I tell myself. I. Listen, guys, I kid you not. Don't

1057
00:41:28,219 --> 00:41:30,887
make me put a link in the chat because you know what my links look

1058
00:41:30,911 --> 00:41:33,435
like. But, um, yeah, so we'll go Forest Park.

1059
00:41:33,980 --> 00:41:36,975
Um, fun fact, I think I just looked at. There's a guy

1060
00:41:37,055 --> 00:41:39,895
in England, um, a British guy whose

1061
00:41:39,935 --> 00:41:42,863
whole content spiel on Instagram is drinking rum. And

1062
00:41:42,879 --> 00:41:45,823
he just did the five most like potent rums anywhere in the world. And

1063
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:48,695
Forest park was number three. So we're gonna get a bottle of Forest

1064
00:41:48,735 --> 00:41:51,447
park, but we have to be careful because it is highly flammable.

1065
00:41:51,591 --> 00:41:51,999
>> Chris Dechter: It is.

1066
00:41:52,047 --> 00:41:53,815
>> Lisle Waldron: I'll say it one more time. Highly.

1067
00:41:53,895 --> 00:41:54,901
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Highly. Highly.

1068
00:41:55,063 --> 00:41:56,193
>> Chris Dechter: Okay, so we have to be careful.

1069
00:41:56,249 --> 00:41:58,921
>> Lisle Waldron: So this is white rum that we have to keep the

1070
00:41:58,993 --> 00:42:01,297
cork on because it'll evaporate. Like, this is highly

1071
00:42:01,321 --> 00:42:02,045
flammable.

1072
00:42:03,025 --> 00:42:03,985
>> Jamie Rinehart: Do you mix this?

1073
00:42:04,025 --> 00:42:06,961
>> Justin Rexing: How do you open the cork and snort it?

1074
00:42:07,113 --> 00:42:08,740
>> Lisle Waldron: You can, uh,

1075
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:13,085
um, use the rectal camera with it.

1076
00:42:13,785 --> 00:42:15,505
Oh, God. No. This is.

1077
00:42:15,545 --> 00:42:16,169
>> Chris Dechter: No, that's.

1078
00:42:16,217 --> 00:42:17,993
>> Jamie Rinehart: After mainlining it.

1079
00:42:18,169 --> 00:42:20,915
>> Lisle Waldron: No. So I've been told. Fun fact that

1080
00:42:20,985 --> 00:42:23,831
it. It's actually. It has no hangover. It's hangover proof, like drinking

1081
00:42:23,863 --> 00:42:26,511
that you never get a hangover. I don't know how true this is. I'm not a.

1082
00:42:26,623 --> 00:42:29,559
I'm afraid of it, to be fair. Um, in Trinidad,

1083
00:42:29,607 --> 00:42:31,959
we call it fire water. You do the math.

1084
00:42:32,007 --> 00:42:34,479
>> Chris Dechter: Well, let's. Let's. Let's pour a little bit for each person here. So.

1085
00:42:34,567 --> 00:42:35,995
>> Jamie Rinehart: All right, so we have some.

1086
00:42:36,935 --> 00:42:39,927
>> Lisle Waldron: Don't pour it near to the heath, Please don't pour it near to

1087
00:42:39,951 --> 00:42:40,471
the.

1088
00:42:40,623 --> 00:42:41,295
>> Jamie Rinehart: All right, that's.

1089
00:42:41,375 --> 00:42:43,327
>> Marc Cholewczynski: That's like a. That's a big.

1090
00:42:43,471 --> 00:42:44,607
>> Lisle Waldron: That's enough water.

1091
00:42:44,671 --> 00:42:45,595
>> Jamie Rinehart: That's a lot.

1092
00:42:45,895 --> 00:42:47,071
>> Lisle Waldron: That's not water, buddy.

1093
00:42:47,143 --> 00:42:48,755
>> Chris Dechter: Mark, here's one for you as well.

1094
00:42:51,035 --> 00:42:52,309
>> Justin Rexing: 12 ounces.

1095
00:42:52,443 --> 00:42:55,060
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Do we have EMTs?

1096
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:56,051
>> Lisle Waldron: M on standby here.

1097
00:42:56,083 --> 00:42:58,763
>> Chris Dechter: I'm doing a flourishing pour here. This is a big

1098
00:42:58,819 --> 00:42:59,259
pour.

1099
00:42:59,347 --> 00:43:00,515
So everyone. Everyone, enjoy.

1100
00:43:00,555 --> 00:43:02,615
>> Lisle Waldron: Buddy. We need EMTs.

1101
00:43:04,035 --> 00:43:05,655
>> Justin Rexing: Should I get out my cigars?

1102
00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:08,859
>> Lisle Waldron: I don't think we should do this with cigars.

1103
00:43:08,947 --> 00:43:11,755
>> Jamie Rinehart: So. Justin, get your cigars out. We'll at least

1104
00:43:11,795 --> 00:43:13,171
hold them. We can just, you know.

1105
00:43:13,283 --> 00:43:14,267
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah, you know, and just.

1106
00:43:14,371 --> 00:43:15,415
>> Jamie Rinehart: Chris, as you get.

1107
00:43:16,285 --> 00:43:19,077
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. So for dessert here. Yeah, get those cigars. Get those

1108
00:43:19,101 --> 00:43:22,093
passed around. I brought my special homemade

1109
00:43:22,149 --> 00:43:25,101
creme brulee flambe. So this out for

1110
00:43:25,133 --> 00:43:25,785
everybody.

1111
00:43:26,525 --> 00:43:28,877
>> Jamie Rinehart: Get the fresh, crispy top. Fresh crispy tops.

1112
00:43:28,901 --> 00:43:31,265
>> Chris Dechter: Right? So, uh, hold on.

1113
00:43:31,885 --> 00:43:33,141
>> Justin Rexing: Butane torch.

1114
00:43:33,293 --> 00:43:36,117
>> Chris Dechter: I've got a little searing torch here. We'll just like this up real

1115
00:43:36,141 --> 00:43:38,837
quick. Get some.

1116
00:43:38,941 --> 00:43:41,687
Some little bit of crispy there on top of your.

1117
00:43:41,821 --> 00:43:43,923
No, we're fine. We're fine. Hey, give me my rum.

1118
00:43:43,979 --> 00:43:44,655
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah.

1119
00:43:47,595 --> 00:43:50,435
>> Chris Dechter: It'S fine. It's just in cigar.

1120
00:43:50,515 --> 00:43:51,975
>> Marc Cholewczynski: It's just getting crispy now.

1121
00:43:53,155 --> 00:43:55,415
>> Lisle Waldron: Open glasses of alcohol.

1122
00:43:58,075 --> 00:43:58,895
Chris.

1123
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,075
>> Chris Dechter: Um, so, Lisle I don't want to alarm

1124
00:44:03,115 --> 00:44:05,683
you, but your kitchen is on fire right now.

1125
00:44:05,739 --> 00:44:06,595
>> Lisle Waldron: It's too late.

1126
00:44:06,715 --> 00:44:09,643
>> Jamie Rinehart: We have. We have burned down everybody's kitchen that we have been

1127
00:44:09,659 --> 00:44:10,219
in.

1128
00:44:10,387 --> 00:44:12,987
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Welcome to the club. This rum is

1129
00:44:13,011 --> 00:44:13,615
delicious.

1130
00:44:14,395 --> 00:44:16,435
>> Lisle Waldron: Thank you. I'm not sure.

1131
00:44:16,555 --> 00:44:19,275
>> Justin Rexing: Grab the cigars and let's go. Basically

1132
00:44:19,395 --> 00:44:21,923
run. Do you guys have fire

1133
00:44:21,979 --> 00:44:23,015
departments here?

1134
00:44:23,395 --> 00:44:23,915
>> Chris Dechter: We do.

1135
00:44:23,955 --> 00:44:26,867
>> Lisle Waldron: My buddy's a fire officer. They just make a lot of soup. They

1136
00:44:26,891 --> 00:44:28,535
make, like, beef soup all day long.

1137
00:44:30,515 --> 00:44:33,095
They don't have anything else to do, so they just make soup,

1138
00:44:33,445 --> 00:44:35,773
and then they come and tell you your house is going down. So. I know.

1139
00:44:35,789 --> 00:44:38,305
>> Justin Rexing: What I mean was that them passing

1140
00:44:39,005 --> 00:44:40,133
soup emergency.

1141
00:44:40,269 --> 00:44:41,253
>> Lisle Waldron: They have to go to did you.

1142
00:44:41,269 --> 00:44:42,277
>> Justin Rexing: Hear them go by?

1143
00:44:42,381 --> 00:44:44,765
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah, they have to go to the grocery to get, like, soup.

1144
00:44:44,845 --> 00:44:45,545
>> Justin Rexing: Soup.

1145
00:44:46,045 --> 00:44:47,145
>> Lisle Waldron: Soup stuff.

1146
00:44:49,485 --> 00:44:50,965
This is not a tradition, guys.

1147
00:44:51,045 --> 00:44:54,037
>> Chris Dechter: So, Lisle thanks for hosting, but I'm sorry your house

1148
00:44:54,061 --> 00:44:56,501
has burned down. I think you've done this three years in a row now, so.

1149
00:44:56,573 --> 00:44:58,921
>> Lisle Waldron: Yeah, I'm one of the boys now. Huh? Huh? No kitchen.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yep. Well, onto the next one, I guess.

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>> Justin Rexing: I still have a kitchen.

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>> Chris Dechter: Oh, next year.

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>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Oh, God. Oh, gee,

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guys, thanks.

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>> Chris Dechter: Figure out how to build this?

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>> Lisle Waldron: Uh.

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>> Chris Dechter: Uh.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Well, we made it. We survived. Barely.

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>> Chris Dechter: Sorry, too many things.

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>> Lisle Waldron: I have to go have some explanations on what's going on in the

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kitchen.

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>> Chris Dechter: Thanks, Lisle Happy Thanksgiving.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Oh, dear.

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>> Chris Dechter: Thanks for putting another episode of AV Super

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Friends on topic. You can contact us with questions,

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topic ideas, or General

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complaints@avsuperfriends.com.

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>> Marc Cholewczynski: Nice work, everyone.

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>> Chris Dechter: Sharp broadcast. Really good. Everyone on the floor as

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well.

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>> Lisle Waldron: Really a lot of hustle.

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>> Chris Dechter: I liked it. The opinions expressed by the AV Super Friends

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are solely those of the individual and do not represent their respective

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institutions, organizations, companies or clients.