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You will find the best game for you.

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But not only that, because of this,

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as you play more and use critical match,

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it will learn from you and easily

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recommend better games for you.

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Welcome to Nerdpreneur,

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where we have fun conversations

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with people making

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money with their nerdy passion. As always,

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I am joined by my co host, Frank.

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Hello.

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And today we have a very special guest.

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His name is Borja.

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Welcome to Nerdpreneur.

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Thank you. Welcome.

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Great to have you on the show. And so, Bora,

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what is your nerdy passion?

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It's TTRPGs.

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So for the layperson who

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doesn't know what the acronym RPG's is,

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because believe it or not,

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not everyone who listens

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to nerdpreneur is necessarily a nerd,

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but a lot of them are.

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But what is TTRPG stand for?

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So it's tabletop RPG games.

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So, like role playing games, right?

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That's awesome. I mean,

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we do a little bit of that, Frank, right?

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non work week probably is consumed

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with this podcast or tabletop RPG's.

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So as far as, like, tabletop RPG's,

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how did you get into tabletop RPG's? Like,

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when did you start playing them? And, like,

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what is the passion about? What.

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What is it that you love?

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Well, I think nowadays people start playing

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ttrpgs because of stranger things, right.

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Having this much of a fun with Vecna.

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And they say that could be interesting.

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Usually used to be, before the pandemic,

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a very nerdy thing. And, you know,

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like the lonely guys on the institute just

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get together and play and do silly voices.

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Sweaty nerds just

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off in the basement like rolling dice. No

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one really knows what they're doing. But, yeah,

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I was never that kid.

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I was never all through high school,

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that was my experience.

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I was that sweaty nerd, I think.

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So when did you play your first tabletop rpg?

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or did you get into it later in life?

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when I was around 16 years old, 1617.

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the nerdiest of the nerds friend,

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like everyone knows,

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because he knows all facts about Star Wars,

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Lord of the Rings, all

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these kind of things. And he said, hey, guys,

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you have to come home and

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check this dungeons and dragons thing.

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I always love fantasy, said, okay, let's.

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And then I fall in love.

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So what was your first game like?

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Was it well done? Was it fun,

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or was it just kind of put together scrappy?

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and this is all I remember. So

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you're allowed to drink, right? And at 16,

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It's at least 19.

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But you guys down in the puritan states are.

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Yeah, you gotta wait till 21. And after,

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you can enlist.

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This year.

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Isn't that interesting?

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It's interesting that the thing

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that stood out to you about your first

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game was the time with your friends.

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And I think that that is such a great

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segue into what it is that

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you are on the show to talk about.

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Would you mind explaining a little bit of

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what it is that you're working on right now?

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Because. Well, because nerdpreneur.

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We're not just about nerdy stuff.

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We're also about businesses. Right.

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And this is about entrepreneurial ventures.

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And you have one that

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is a nerdy entrepreneurial venture,

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is that correct?

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Absolutely. 100%.

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Well, tell us about it. What is it?

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Yeah. So, well, it's called critical match.

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tried to play dungeons and dragons,

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Call of Cthulhu, all these games,

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Dungeons and Dragons is the most common. So

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every time I will refer maybe DJ and dragons,

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but it's all of them.

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There is over a thousand. So.

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So if anyone has ever tried to play these kind

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of games and find a table, even to start, like,

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with stranger things. Okay,

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I want to try.

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Where do I go?

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I don't know, celebrity online,

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and they give you like a thousand options.

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But it's very hard to go there because

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there is only like two or three, like Reddit,

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and it's very difficult.

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So critical match does exactly that.

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what offers you is the

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opportunity with a few clicks

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to find the best TTRPG game for you.

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if you are looking maybe for a more cyberpunk

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kind of game or dark or investigation.

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So you just open the app, go to search,

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and we will offer you like 56, 10, 20.

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There is a lot of options.

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We call it tables and only swiping.

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You will join this game.

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Well, you actually send a request to join.

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That makes sense.

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Don't show up in the game. All right.

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Tinder or dating apps these days? I mean,

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the name alone is super similar.

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this kind of forums of RPG's, et cetera,

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there is always one post that says

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someone should invent Tinder for RPG.

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So this is that.

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Except you don't match with people.

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You match with tables.

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Right. That's good.

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That's fascinating.

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I love the idea of being

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able to swipe on my games,

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the tinder for nerds, like,

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to find a game. Yeah, I'm in.

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That sounds like an awesome idea.

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Because, you know, there's.

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about what's nice about Tinder,

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or whatever that is,

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is the ability to,

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in some ways, try, you know, have a not, like,

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a huge level of commitment to, like,

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you spend a lot of time building. Right?

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Like a regular relationship.

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you try and get them off the ground somewhere

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and they just all of a sudden fall apart,

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like the day of or two

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days before or something like that.

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Chris, you're really revealing your perspective

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of Tinder and dating programs. Just like,

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I don't want to commit.

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I don't want to commit to one. I want to, like,

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try out a bunch of different

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I'm just saying I like that you can.

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I like that. You know, you have your.

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Your tastes in games, right?

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Because we're talking about games here.

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I like my games a little bit more racy.

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more aggressive or more combat based.

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be great in some of these games, you know,

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and we're talking about tabletop

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rpg games when we're talking about this.

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So this is the thing.

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I like that idea for many reasons.

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of nerds who want to find games,

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this would be like a nice

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one stop shop solution for them. Right?

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That's kind of the idea, yep.

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And it's amazing that you say that.

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You said that because actually on the app we.

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kind of a search system with hashtags.

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over thousand systems that exist.

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create will have a specific hashtag.

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you can also put your own hashtag.

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We've got some professional DM's, as they say.

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I want to do course of DNd,

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create your NPC or whatever.

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if I join this table, I will learn.

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thing is what you said that you can do.

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I don't know, hashtag horror, hashtag space.

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everything that has these hashtags inside.

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So you will find the best game for you.

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much more that you play and use critical math,

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it will learn from you and

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easily will recommend you better games.

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That's what I was gonna ask is like,

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what are some of the criteria that I can't.

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on the type of game for sure. Right.

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Can I also search based on, like,

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how big the game is? Like, if I don't,

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A ten person game.

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that's like two or three people. Small, low,

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a little bit easier to get into.

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Or maybe it's the opposite.

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I want one where I can meet a ton of people.

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Can I search based on number of people

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I play with or other criteria like that?

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Daniels and Dragons and that's easy.

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Or by hashtags.

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can choose from when do you want to play, which

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day of the week, the time, if, for example,

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you want to search for

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a physical table or an online one.

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so you can actually put your address or

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maybe search hobby shops to go play there.

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that means around three or four sessions.

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a game or a campaign longer,

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I just want a maximum of five seeds,

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four seats or more than ten.

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But that's not all.

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You can also search,

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maybe if you want LGTP IQ plus space.

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This is also available.

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There's games that say, okay, we are not.

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So we take for granted

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that all tables are LGTBQ friendly.

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These are only space. Like, okay,

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we promote it and it's going to be in

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these kind of NPC's but also beginners tables,

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female only tables or femme only tables.

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So it's

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going to be also by language. For example,

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I'm living in Germany and I

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can promise you I will not

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ever play in German a TTRP game. Oh, wow.

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Is that just because the material is

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primarily in English a lot of the time?

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No, no, no.

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Just a hard language man.

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Yes, I see what you mean.

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They got words like this and it's like,

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is that a monster? No, it's. Hello.

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Yes.

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So I also wanted to ask about

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this because this sounds like a great

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opportunity for people who are aspiring

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or currently employed professional

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dungeon masters and other game masters. So

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this sounds like a great opportunity for that.

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What is your system for people

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who want to charge for their

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sessions and their games that they host?

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So all games you can create,

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you can charge precision,

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critical match will never ever,

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and I can say this right now,

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take any amount of money off your tables.

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It will be 100% free.

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Only in the future.

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If we choose that,

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the payment will be through the app because

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iOS and Android will charge us this. We

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will charge you also these fees because please.

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But that's the only thing we

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think in critical match that we want

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to promote all these DM, professional DM's.

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So you will be able right now in the mvp,

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you will be able to put how much,

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which system do you.

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So which if it's a dollar, euro or whatever.

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And if you can get payment through PayPal

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Direct bank account in the future. Because

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we have talked with a lot of professional DM's,

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we have things ready like control who has paid

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the last session and all this kind of stuff.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Yes. Love it. But I really got

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to know from a business standpoint,

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how are you guys going to make money?

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So

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we are going to.

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It's going to be 100% free up.

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That means that without paying

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anything you will be able to search games,

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to join games and a lot of things

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that we are going to talk later. Love it.

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But if you want to support us,

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we will create two tiers there

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is an adventurer and world

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builder tiers of subscription monthly.

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The things that it gives you is like

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on a free tier you can have up to five

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tables at the same time that

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for casual gaming is more than enough.

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Totally.

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And only it gets better.

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And because of things that

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we are going to talk later also,

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you will have a minimum of amount of

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megabytes that you can upload to our

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servers to create your tables because it's

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going to be a bunch of stuff there. Also,

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if you're a subscriber,

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you will get skins for your tables, animations,

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animated dice,

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and a lot of amazing things that

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we hope we can bring in the future.

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With the world builder,

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you will also get your groups that you create

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your guilds up to. I think it's. No, I know.

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I think there is no limit to how

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many people can join your guilds

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in the world being the subscriber.

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Hold on, guilds?

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Yeah. I'm just curious, like,

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so if I'm a pro DM, let's

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just say which I kind of am, but it's like,

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let's say I'm a pro DM and I want to be on your

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platform and start attracting my own audience.

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I could create like an epic guild, right,

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for my professor. Epic fandom, essentially.

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And as can I put out

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content that attracts more people to,

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to follow my guild?

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Or does it all have to go through, like,

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do I build a reputation on your site or, sorry,

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on your app?

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No, no, no. So the guild,

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I think I'm kind of overstepping

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right now because I don't know if,

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I think if this is like a hidden stretch goal,

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but I don't know, whatever.

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So for you guys, okay, let's say.

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If it's a stretch goal that the guilds are

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potentially in the near or medium future.

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Depends how much

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we can get you on the Kickstarter, right? Yeah.

393
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So everything costs money. So, yeah.

394
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So actually the building

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of the guild is the guild.

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And another thing that we're going to

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talk in the future is adventure journal.

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So you will have access

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as a subscriber and also free tier.

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And it's like,

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so it's very important for us.

402
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It's a search code because it's

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actually like building a second app.

404
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Oh, yeah.

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And the gilts,

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actually what you do is, okay,

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you create your guild with your image,

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like your logo or whatever,

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and only people can join

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with a direct link and you

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can give powers to these people, like admins.

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And if the people can create tables,

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so these people can create

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a table only for your guild. Okay.

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I want to share this table only with my people.

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You know what I mean?

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But if they decide, for example,

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to put it outside,

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this table will always have your guild logo.

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So to people to know that this table

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is created from your guild to whomever,

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the most amazing thing is

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that the creator of the guild can.

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Will choose the options for all tables.

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So all of them has to be LGTB spaces. All

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of them has to be, I don't know, five seats.

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All of them have to be. Cannot, for example,

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cannot use swearing words or whatever. And

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everyone will be forced to follow these rules.

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Yeah. So it's like we only play fifth

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edition here or we only

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play Star Trek or something like that.

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This is a Star Trek guild.

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So this is where we play that system d two or

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d 20 systems or something like that, you know?

436
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Yeah. For example. Yeah.

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Gotcha. All right. That's cool.

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That's very cool.

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And I guess the way I'm looking at too is like

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if I'm a pro dm who's putting out content,

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got my stuff up on Patreon, right.

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And I want to run a game for people

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who are on my Patreon, let's just say, right,

444
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one of the safest ways in which

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to offer that might be through your app.

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Because then one,

447
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I'm not going to get

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Patreon taking money away from me,

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but I can have people who are on my Patreon go

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over to the app and become part of my guild

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and then I can offer it to those people.

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Yeah. So for example, I'm also a Patreon

453
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subscriber to some spanish professional DM's.

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And one thing that happens is sometimes I'm

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late always to join tables because they

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don't do like one every day. That it's logic.

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The thing is, with critical match, you

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will also get notifications to your phone. Hey,

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your guild has created this table.

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Do you want to join?

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Does it fix what you like

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and you can go fast there. Join the Jordan.

463
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Nice. That's very cool.

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What are some of the features that

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you're most excited for with this app?

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So the chat,

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I think is the most

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exciting thing for me is that.

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So every time you

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create a table with your players,

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it's a chat inside for each table.

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That means that you will not share

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your personal number or for example,

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here in Europe we usually use WhatsApp or

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Telegram and you have to give your phone

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or your number or discord or whatever. And I,

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as I said before, I love ttrpgs.

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And I like to play indie games. And I remember,

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and this is the first time I said

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we need something like critical match.

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I wanted to play blades in the dark.

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It's a dark system

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where you build your guild. Dark, very dark.

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And it's amazing because

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it's like a city simulator.

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You build your guild. I couldn't play.

487
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I couldn't find anyone.

488
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And at the end I matched

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with two from New Zealand,

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one from the United States

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and one from the United Kingdom.

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And we have to share WhatsApp because it was

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the only way to communicate within each other.

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And now I don't know. Some guys

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from New Zealand has my phone number. I mean,

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I never had a problem,

497
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but it would be better.

498
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That was out of the question.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like in Tinder. I mean,

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it's better if no one has any number. Nobody

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has anyone's contact after, after interacting.

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Right now for the MVP,

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the chat will only be to share like words,

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but we hope in the future because it

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takes a lot of space on the servers

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and service costs a lot of money. We

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hope you can share like PDF's, images, audios,

508
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all these kind of things.

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So I could potentially

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share like if my group wanted it,

511
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but I could share lore into the group

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chat of like here's what's coming up,

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or here's a little background on where

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we're going to be playing that kind of thing.

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If you want it private for your group.

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So I mean,

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you can always create.

518
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So there is one feature that

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is called the observer on critical math.

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So you can create a table that it's closed for

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your friends or games and no one can. I mean,

522
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they can find it,

523
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but no one can join.

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Or you can put polling there,

525
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but you can also give

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the option to allow observers.

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An observer is a player who does not play

528
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but benefits from everything you share.

529
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Not the chat,

530
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but everything you share on your table.

531
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So if you, for example, are

532
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a streamer and you have your streaming stables,

533
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you can create your table on critical match.

534
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People can observe you and they

535
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get a notification on when the

536
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game is on and on which platform,

537
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and only with one click

538
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they go directly to where you are.

539
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,810
I could see that as a

540
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,730
great Patreon feature for someone.

541
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,810
They want to give their followers an additional

542
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level of involvement even if they can't play.

543
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Yeah, but that's not the best thing. So again,

544
00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:29,360
there is another stretch goal

545
00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:32,520
that it's the journal Adventure journal.

546
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:35,170
And each table creator

547
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,160
can create inside of this table

548
00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:41,150
a journal where they can upload, for example,

549
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,150
NPC images a synopsis of the game handouts,

550
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,630
whatever you need and the

551
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,960
observers will have access to that.

552
00:22:50,260 --> 00:22:52,680
This is something I pitched to my

553
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:55,040
team the very first day because

554
00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:58,640
I'm a hard follower of critical role.

555
00:22:59,370 --> 00:23:01,310
But I mean, three,

556
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,710
4 hours every week, I cannot.

557
00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:08,330
I have a son. I cannot.

558
00:23:08,490 --> 00:23:11,000
So with this feature on critical match,

559
00:23:11,070 --> 00:23:12,630
if I observe the table,

560
00:23:13,170 --> 00:23:16,110
I can see what the last game they did,

561
00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:18,030
which NPC they found.

562
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,070
If they level up,

563
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:22,670
I can see their sheets or maybe

564
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,280
I can see the last magic weapon

565
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,230
found that I've been heard of but

566
00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:29,340
I couldn't find because I wasn't there.

567
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,020
So with critical magic

568
00:23:31,030 --> 00:23:32,980
you will get all these updates.

569
00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:35,150
That's really cool. That would be. I see,

570
00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:36,820
I totally see what you mean

571
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960
of just having access and getting

572
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,780
that extra level of content and

573
00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:43,740
feeling like you're almost a player, but it's.

574
00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:45,040
Like being in the room

575
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,120
as opposed to watching it on Twitch.

576
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,230
It's just like where everybody

577
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,830
else is in the live audience.

578
00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:51,780
You're part of the,

579
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:52,940
you're getting the handouts,

580
00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:54,460
you're getting the feeling of

581
00:23:54,490 --> 00:23:56,040
being there a little bit more intimately.

582
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,080
And I like that. That's very, very cool.

583
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,870
It'd also be great research for

584
00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:01,420
anyone who's trying to create this

585
00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:03,260
stuff because we've spoken to some people.

586
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,820
Monkey DM was a big one and he was talking

587
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:08,610
about just different ways that you can come up

588
00:24:08,620 --> 00:24:11,180
with ideas for content and getting to learn

589
00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:13,460
from other people who have made, you know,

590
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:15,200
whether it's the magic items like you said,

591
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,360
that they share with their players,

592
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,930
getting to see the stat block on that

593
00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:20,670
or monsters from like cobalt press, you know,

594
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,320
they could see all kinds of

595
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:25,270
cool things that have been created

596
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,050
and they get to actually then be like, ooh,

597
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,760
I want to take that and bring that to my table.

598
00:24:28,830 --> 00:24:30,950
Absolutely. There is amazing Kickstarters

599
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,120
around there of new weapons,

600
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:35,280
magic weapons or NPC's.

601
00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:37,220
And if I have my table and

602
00:24:37,260 --> 00:24:39,290
maybe I bought this Kickstarter

603
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:42,290
and I use it on my table, someone can say, wow,

604
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,360
I love this monster. What it is. Okay,

605
00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:48,450
you have to go this and buy this PDF

606
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,840
or this book and use it on your games.

607
00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:54,530
Yeah, cool. See this? See this monster

608
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,250
in action this week? Watch my stream. And

609
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,050
then it's like if you want to buy the monster,

610
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,510
get access to it. After the stream,

611
00:25:00,550 --> 00:25:04,220
you can give me this thought like, yeah, great.

612
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:05,330
You go to critical match,

613
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:06,970
click the monster and it would directly

614
00:25:07,020 --> 00:25:09,000
to where you can maybe found it.

615
00:25:09,170 --> 00:25:10,930
No, I'm curious. I'm curious, like where

616
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,890
are you guys at in development

617
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:15,500
right now because like can I go and

618
00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:17,660
download critical match and like it's

619
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:19,190
starting to work or are you guys testing?

620
00:25:19,260 --> 00:25:20,500
Where are you at right now?

621
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,300
Sadly, nowhere. Not yet.

622
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,420
We are just now in a seeding process.

623
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,900
We build a company here in Germany.

624
00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:35,700
We are five founders. Me, I'm the CEO,

625
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:37,610
I'm more the business kind of guy.

626
00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,560
Then there is the graphic designer

627
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,460
Ux UI and there are three developers.

628
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,470
What we need right now is

629
00:25:45,660 --> 00:25:47,740
the success of the Kickstarter.

630
00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:51,420
It's going to be the objective $22,000

631
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,020
only to start it up.

632
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,630
Then we can start paying people

633
00:25:57,740 --> 00:26:00,120
to build this and to work

634
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,940
with us and all these kind of things.

635
00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:04,820
It's quite expensive.

636
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,290
22,000 doesn't sound that much because to.

637
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:12,420
The very,

638
00:26:12,510 --> 00:26:14,930
very minimum we didn't went

639
00:26:14,980 --> 00:26:17,370
to for the stretch goals or example.

640
00:26:17,420 --> 00:26:20,600
Right now there is a 2d dice rover

641
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:23,460
per table where the observers

642
00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:26,530
and the players can see what you roll.

643
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,000
And we hopefully

644
00:26:28,050 --> 00:26:30,680
this will be a 3d thing. But we say, okay,

645
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:33,170
if we want the $22,000

646
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,930
to be realistic,

647
00:26:35,390 --> 00:26:37,520
we cannot afford this 3d.

648
00:26:37,690 --> 00:26:40,850
Gotcha. Okay, so you're starting scrappy

649
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,570
and then you got the stretch goals

650
00:26:43,070 --> 00:26:44,930
based on what you guys make, that makes sense.

651
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,190
That's pretty normal kickstarter.

652
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:46,450
Cool.

653
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,210
And when does that,

654
00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:48,730
when is that going to launch?

655
00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:52,270
So it starts on the 20

656
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:54,810
September with an amazing early bird.

657
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,690
Because as I talked before,

658
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,370
there's going to be skins for your tables.

659
00:27:00,510 --> 00:27:02,260
So the way to personalize your tables,

660
00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:04,560
you can always choose the. So I mean, the name,

661
00:27:04,650 --> 00:27:07,220
the synopsis or what is about or

662
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:09,200
whatever you want to explain in your table.

663
00:27:09,330 --> 00:27:11,560
But also you can choose the image

664
00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:15,030
for everyone to see and also the skin.

665
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,650
This skin is like a layout on the

666
00:27:17,690 --> 00:27:20,310
table that makes your table different.

667
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:24,870
So for the 48 first hours,

668
00:27:25,330 --> 00:27:28,230
anyone who help us on the Kickstarter,

669
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,470
all backers will get two animated skins.

670
00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:36,190
One is a red dragon that it breaths,

671
00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:37,710
fires to your table.

672
00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:41,840
And the second one is called Edrich horror.

673
00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,830
And if you pay attention,

674
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,020
you will see Cthulhu around there.

675
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,020
I'm curious,

676
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:52,590
like for you,

677
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:55,990
you're the CEO of this critical match.

678
00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:58,140
Have you always been an entrepreneur?

679
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,710
Have you always been sort of like,

680
00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:01,630
I start my own businesses, get things going.

681
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:04,180
Is that your spirit or is this something

682
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:05,940
that you just sort of stepped into

683
00:28:06,010 --> 00:28:07,940
recently because you see the opportunity?

684
00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:12,280
I started international business and marketing,

685
00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:18,560
and the first year after I graduated,

686
00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:21,680
I went to work in China.

687
00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:24,160
I was one year there.

688
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:26,270
I speak a little bit of Chinese too.

689
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,680
And after one year I said, okay, that's enough.

690
00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:30,180
I want to try something different.

691
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:32,640
And then when I went back to Barcelona,

692
00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:34,040
it's my hometown,

693
00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:36,810
I built

694
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,370
a company that after three years, it doesn't.

695
00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:43,810
So it didn't launch as I expected,

696
00:28:44,350 --> 00:28:47,460
so I stopped it. It's better to. It's

697
00:28:47,490 --> 00:28:50,690
also smart to stop it when you can totally.

698
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:54,050
And I always had this, like, you know,

699
00:28:54,550 --> 00:28:56,890
trying to find opportunities, what to build.

700
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,490
I always wanted to create something

701
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,470
instead of just in Beth, for example.

702
00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:05,390
And this idea,

703
00:29:05,890 --> 00:29:06,460
I got it,

704
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:08,790
like almost a year now.

705
00:29:10,210 --> 00:29:12,610
And then I say, I have to try. I have to try.

706
00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:13,570
If I don't try,

707
00:29:13,690 --> 00:29:15,260
I will not forgive myself.

708
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:16,670
And here we are.

709
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:18,540
And so you just started moving.

710
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:19,790
What were the first steps

711
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:22,060
you had to kind of take to get.

712
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:23,790
To get this thing going and

713
00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:26,070
rolling as an entrepreneur? Because, I mean,

714
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,320
it sounds like you have had that

715
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:28,610
entrepreneurial spirit since you

716
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640
were younger and going through

717
00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:33,290
school and everything, but, like, this year,

718
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,570
you really stepped into

719
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,200
this role of critical match.

720
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:39,420
What were the first steps for

721
00:29:39,460 --> 00:29:40,880
you to start really making that happen?

722
00:29:40,930 --> 00:29:43,100
To go from idea to, holy crap,

723
00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:44,010
we're launching a kickstarter.

724
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,480
We're going to make an app. I got a team.

725
00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:47,200
How did that happen?

726
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,600
So first was talking with my wife.

727
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:52,660
You got to get permission first, right?

728
00:29:52,820 --> 00:29:53,120
Yeah.

729
00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:55,340
To say, well, at least to say, okay,

730
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,320
what do you think?

731
00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:58,410
Do you think it's a good idea?

732
00:29:58,540 --> 00:29:59,570
Does she play?

733
00:30:00,070 --> 00:30:00,710
Yes.

734
00:30:00,830 --> 00:30:02,040
Okay, perfect. There we go.

735
00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:04,730
Yeah, she used to play with me.

736
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,890
I used to be a DM,

737
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,330
and she used to be one of the players.

738
00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:11,250
So I first talked to her and say, you know,

739
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,030
you have a 40 hours or job. I mean,

740
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:17,170
do you see yourself?

741
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,650
And it was before.

742
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,960
So my baby boy was born on the February,

743
00:30:23,460 --> 00:30:25,530
so we already know that he's going

744
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,530
to come and say, you know that. So, I mean,

745
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,280
what I mean is that. So I first,

746
00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:33,530
I took with my partner to see, okay,

747
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,560
I'm going to do extra hours and

748
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:38,390
I'm going to go far and beyond.

749
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Are we ready

750
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:41,800
for that as a couple, as a family? He said,

751
00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:44,600
let's go about it. And I went.

752
00:30:45,020 --> 00:30:46,480
So I do my research.

753
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:49,400
It's a funny story how we start together,

754
00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:52,670
these five guys playing.

755
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,430
So creating critical match.

756
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,730
So I was doing my research, okay,

757
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,680
does something like this exist?

758
00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:02,560
And I found

759
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:08,760
a PDF of someone who said,

760
00:31:08,890 --> 00:31:11,920
this should be created, and here's why.

761
00:31:13,020 --> 00:31:15,080
And I say, wow, okay,

762
00:31:15,130 --> 00:31:16,700
this is exactly what I want to do.

763
00:31:16,810 --> 00:31:19,250
Why this is not created yet.

764
00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:20,690
And I talked with him.

765
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:22,390
He is Hector from Argentina.

766
00:31:22,550 --> 00:31:24,430
And I say, hey, why?

767
00:31:24,550 --> 00:31:26,410
This is not a reality. Well,

768
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:27,850
I'm a graphic designer,

769
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,470
I don't know anything about business,

770
00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:32,050
about sales, say, okay, I do.

771
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,610
Let's work together.

772
00:31:33,910 --> 00:31:34,440
Nice.

773
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:38,530
Yes, let's do it. And then on discord,

774
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:41,060
in one of the spanish groups

775
00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:43,990
of professional DM's and creators,

776
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:46,960
I was asking people, hey,

777
00:31:46,990 --> 00:31:48,260
what do you think about this idea?

778
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:50,080
What would you like to see?

779
00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:52,190
And some guys say, hey,

780
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,190
we are developing something similar.

781
00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:55,670
It's called rolling,

782
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,550
but it's only for physical tables.

783
00:31:57,580 --> 00:31:58,370
Like you can find

784
00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:02,230
games in your town. I say, okay, let's talk.

785
00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:03,860
There were three guys and

786
00:32:03,870 --> 00:32:05,830
we were two and we came together.

787
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160
And instead of saying, nah, you know,

788
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:09,230
like they are,

789
00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:13,190
we want to find not just work together,

790
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,110
because they were developers,

791
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,280
we saw the opportunity, okay,

792
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:17,530
there is three developers,

793
00:32:17,650 --> 00:32:19,510
one graphic designer and one business.

794
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,570
That's perfect,

795
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:23,270
like the perfect team. It really is.

796
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:24,720
So we say, hey,

797
00:32:24,790 --> 00:32:26,050
instead of fighting each other,

798
00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:27,390
let's do something together.

799
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,080
And the most amazing thing is that

800
00:32:29,150 --> 00:32:32,040
the very first meeting that

801
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:35,130
we have just to present ourselves, we've

802
00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:38,880
ended building what is today. Critical match.

803
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:40,900
Wow, wow.

804
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:41,610
So you fleshed

805
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,290
it out in that first sitting. Wow.

806
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,300
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We already have one,

807
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:48,400
some ideas. Day two, they say, okay,

808
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:49,250
I don't think this,

809
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,190
I don't like this,

810
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,120
I don't like this other.

811
00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:52,570
Let's change the name,

812
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560
change a lot. Until critical match. I mean,

813
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:56,800
all this kind of stuff.

814
00:32:57,380 --> 00:32:59,110
What's so interesting when you start a business

815
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,000
too is there is a tendency to like, man,

816
00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:04,500
if you don't find the right people,

817
00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:06,420
it's hard to start a business, right? Like,

818
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:07,370
I've talked about

819
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,790
this with Frank and just like,

820
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:09,890
I've tried to start podcasts

821
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:11,430
a number of times, but like, I need that,

822
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:12,820
that spirit warrior,

823
00:33:12,850 --> 00:33:14,170
that person who gets it.

824
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:15,860
And the way I like to think about it,

825
00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:19,250
it's like we are aligned in terms of our values

826
00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:22,190
for what we see as the future of, say,

827
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,500
nerdpreneur and what it is and what the meaning

828
00:33:24,530 --> 00:33:26,620
behind it is and why it's important, did

829
00:33:26,650 --> 00:33:30,020
you find that kind of alignment with your team?

830
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:31,410
And if so, I'm curious,

831
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:33,750
what are some of those core values that you

832
00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:36,320
guys landed on that really helps direct

833
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:39,320
the progress that you're making?

834
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:40,680
So

835
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:45,320
I think at the beginning, yes,

836
00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:47,040
we found that to each other.

837
00:33:47,420 --> 00:33:49,210
But the most important thing, at least

838
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,310
I can speak by myself, is passion. We saw,

839
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,960
at least I can say,

840
00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:58,880
I saw them talking with a lot of passion.

841
00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:00,720
We can do that and we can do that.

842
00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:04,600
And this might take long time on a lot of work,

843
00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:08,210
but we are going to do it and we all work.

844
00:34:09,389 --> 00:34:10,510
The first thing is, okay,

845
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:14,120
how are we going to work it out and say, okay,

846
00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:16,500
let's do this system and we're

847
00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:19,889
going to work with agile and use tickets.

848
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:23,630
So we do one meeting each

849
00:34:23,710 --> 00:34:26,310
week and another meeting every two weeks.

850
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:28,210
And this is like sacred.

851
00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:29,370
Yeah.

852
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:33,120
And since day one we've been doing that.

853
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,330
And this is something that every time.

854
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,000
So at the beginning you're always like,

855
00:34:37,110 --> 00:34:38,960
I'm not sure. Okay, this is running,

856
00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,719
but there is nothing close

857
00:34:40,850 --> 00:34:42,310
what will happen in the future.

858
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,550
But as you see the people

859
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,440
with passion working extra hours,

860
00:34:46,590 --> 00:34:48,400
we are talking on telegram very,

861
00:34:48,449 --> 00:34:50,610
very late at night because someone, hey,

862
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:51,889
I just finished job and I had

863
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239
this idea and I did these changes, whatever.

864
00:34:54,429 --> 00:34:56,710
This is something that for me right now,

865
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,390
now that I know of it,

866
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:00,870
it's essential for any team.

867
00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:02,080
So like,

868
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:03,750
like regular meetings like that

869
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:05,670
where it's just like, like clockwork, we're

870
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:07,780
meeting these times every single week. That

871
00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:09,580
way you're always making progress. Is that,

872
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:10,720
is that what you mean?

873
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:13,600
No, I mean the passion. Things like,

874
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:16,540
like people going so extra

875
00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:19,080
miles in order to bring it up.

876
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:21,650
Because here everyone sacrifices

877
00:35:21,730 --> 00:35:24,750
something because this is nothing.

878
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:26,550
So we are not making money,

879
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
we are not being paid.

880
00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:31,110
So everyone is sacrificing

881
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,960
something so that we see

882
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:37,010
all of us working day after day. And of course,

883
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,940
the system that we have found that

884
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:42,300
work for us and it actually works. We actually.

885
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:44,310
So at the beginning we change some things

886
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,750
until it worked 100% for every one of us.

887
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,760
And then it's like a well oiled machine.

888
00:35:52,770 --> 00:35:54,830
I hear two main values that I think

889
00:35:54,860 --> 00:35:56,290
are really interesting and that I think

890
00:35:56,330 --> 00:35:58,170
anyone working on a team, because that is,

891
00:35:58,210 --> 00:35:59,160
I just want to point out that's

892
00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:00,920
something unique about

893
00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:03,430
you and your project and your team.

894
00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:05,610
From the other people we've interviewed,

895
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:07,230
not a lot of people have had

896
00:36:07,610 --> 00:36:09,830
close knit teams that they work with.

897
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,620
And I think that

898
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:12,230
there's some interesting nuggets here.

899
00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:13,840
And one of the things you

900
00:36:13,870 --> 00:36:15,910
said about core values was the passion.

901
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,430
I think I want

902
00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:20,520
to extrapolate on that a little bit,

903
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,760
that having that passion

904
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,260
keeps everyone engaged. I mean, yes, of course,

905
00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:26,940
everyone's in

906
00:36:26,970 --> 00:36:28,090
passionate about what they're doing,

907
00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:30,270
but the things you all agree on.

908
00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:30,870
I'm gonna,

909
00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:32,540
I'm gonna go out on a limb here

910
00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:34,770
and say it sounds like if

911
00:36:34,820 --> 00:36:37,100
everybody's passionate about a feature,

912
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,260
then it's gonna happen.

913
00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:41,200
And you want to add the features

914
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,170
that everyone is passionate about,

915
00:36:43,290 --> 00:36:47,930
because if a majority of you aren't, then a,

916
00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:51,250
it's going to be kind of hard to get done.

917
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:53,130
And other people may also

918
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:54,790
not really care for it or be that

919
00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:56,450
passionate about it like your customers.

920
00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:58,540
And then the second value I'm hearing

921
00:36:58,630 --> 00:37:01,720
is just taking this seriously. I mean, and

922
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:03,870
this relies a lot on the first to the passion,

923
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,530
but the second is taking it seriously because

924
00:37:06,610 --> 00:37:09,010
you are respecting everybody else's time,

925
00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:11,170
you're respecting everybody else's work

926
00:37:11,210 --> 00:37:13,190
and commitment that they're putting into it.

927
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,030
And so when you have both of those values

928
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,270
working very directly with each other

929
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,150
that everyone's passionate about what they're

930
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:22,300
making and everyone's taking it seriously,

931
00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:25,950
I think that is key for a small scrappy

932
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,230
team to put something together like this.

933
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,990
And that's really cool.

934
00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:32,370
Yeah, yeah. So no one is going

935
00:37:32,410 --> 00:37:34,310
to give you anything for free.

936
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,140
And everything is,

937
00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:37,220
I mean it's harder

938
00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:39,490
to do to bring up a business.

939
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,650
So you actually have to

940
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,780
work it and you have to be there.

941
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:44,000
And if you are a team, it's

942
00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:46,040
a little bit harder because as you already say,

943
00:37:46,090 --> 00:37:49,130
some people might be not on board on some

944
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,990
features and then you have to see, okay,

945
00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:53,930
why it's only because he,

946
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:54,700
I mean he doesn't

947
00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:55,920
understand or he will not use it,

948
00:37:55,930 --> 00:37:57,070
but the majority does.

949
00:37:57,190 --> 00:38:00,890
So there is a lot of discussion on everything.

950
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:05,320
But we also know our expertise.

951
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,550
So if it's something

952
00:38:06,620 --> 00:38:08,660
from the development perspective,

953
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:09,630
I will say, okay,

954
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,920
I don't like it or I love it,

955
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,620
but my opinion is not

956
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:16,370
as valuable as the developer team.

957
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:16,850
Right.

958
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:19,070
I only give my business idea a.

959
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:20,020
Point of view

960
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,180
that's actually really interesting.

961
00:38:22,210 --> 00:38:23,060
It reminded me of,

962
00:38:23,110 --> 00:38:24,480
there was a video game studio,

963
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,530
I think in France.

964
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:27,030
I don't remember what games they did.

965
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:28,500
I think it was dead cell,

966
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,000
but that roguelite game.

967
00:38:31,150 --> 00:38:33,840
But it got really popular and they

968
00:38:33,870 --> 00:38:35,380
were interviewed and talking about how

969
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:37,320
they had all come from like a big company,

970
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:39,540
maybe Ubisoft or something like that,

971
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:40,680
but they had all left

972
00:38:40,730 --> 00:38:42,460
because they didn't like the hierarchy.

973
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,140
So they wanted to give everybody a

974
00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:47,200
single vote so everyone had an equal say.

975
00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:48,810
And if someone said, oh,

976
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,620
I don't like that,

977
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:52,020
even if they were in like the project

978
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,230
management department and someone that was

979
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:55,730
in the arts department made something and

980
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,420
project management said I don't like that,

981
00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:59,180
just I don't think it looks good,

982
00:38:59,330 --> 00:39:02,040
then it made the artist have to defend what

983
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,720
they were saying to convince the other person.

984
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,100
And they said that that was good and bad

985
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,140
because it made for really good content.

986
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:10,750
I mean that game did very well,

987
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:12,700
but it also was a downside because

988
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:13,940
people had to spend the time to

989
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:17,060
convince others of their decisions. And it's,

990
00:39:17,110 --> 00:39:18,580
it's kind of like, well,

991
00:39:18,610 --> 00:39:19,630
you're in a different department.

992
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:21,100
You don't really know.

993
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,030
So that's interesting that you

994
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:25,280
guys are aware of that into account.

995
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:26,880
Yeah, sometimes it's only

996
00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:29,080
with a conversation you say, okay, I get it,

997
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,120
let's do it.

998
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:31,630
But maybe you're very

999
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,200
hard on your opinion, say, yeah, I know, but.

1000
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:37,580
And at the end with twisted things,

1001
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,760
you come into something that it's better.

1002
00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:44,400
And as the CEO of the company,

1003
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:47,310
my guess is there's somewhat of a

1004
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,560
role for you to be hurting cats

1005
00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:52,320
towards a general goal or a vision

1006
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:54,780
of things that I guess become like.

1007
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:55,960
I guess the thing I would look

1008
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:57,180
at is if somebody is saying

1009
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:59,290
a designer or a developer or something,

1010
00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:01,380
they have that frame where

1011
00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:02,570
they're looking at things from

1012
00:40:02,620 --> 00:40:04,480
that frame of being a developer and say,

1013
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,160
the practicality

1014
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,920
of making that or whatever it is. Right.

1015
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,270
Whereas as a CEO,

1016
00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:10,720
do you find you must have a different frame

1017
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,810
in which you look at this from the big

1018
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:16,250
picture of we're launching on these dates,

1019
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:18,220
these are the key things we need done for this.

1020
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:19,500
How are we going to make money with

1021
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:21,420
this or be something where someone

1022
00:40:21,590 --> 00:40:23,780
wants to invest in us or whatever it is.

1023
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:25,840
Do you find that there are

1024
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,240
challenges for you in that role?

1025
00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:30,470
And what have you learned about being in

1026
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,280
that role and managing people like that?

1027
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:36,000
So one of the funny things, like sometimes,

1028
00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:39,670
so we are all together in the same telegram and

1029
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,680
sometimes developers are talking and say, hey,

1030
00:40:41,710 --> 00:40:44,440
let's put this feature on, okay,

1031
00:40:44,490 --> 00:40:46,560
it only costs whatever a month. And I

1032
00:40:46,570 --> 00:40:48,440
say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

1033
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:52,000
I have to bring my excel out,

1034
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,410
make my calculations.

1035
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:55,400
Can we afford it right now?

1036
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,580
Or maybe should be a stretch goal or maybe

1037
00:40:58,650 --> 00:41:01,820
should be a version three of the app.

1038
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,520
This is kind of

1039
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,060
what I do most of the day, like, okay,

1040
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,460
wait a second, I have to.

1041
00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:09,900
And then we discuss it.

1042
00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:11,670
Okay, yeah, we know, but this would be

1043
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:12,950
very amazing because it helped

1044
00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:14,820
us this and this and this to do it.

1045
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:15,980
And then I say, okay,

1046
00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:18,780
let me put it inside. And, yeah, so it's,

1047
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:20,290
so your job.

1048
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,810
Is almost to rein in some of

1049
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,280
that passion because their passion

1050
00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:25,280
is driving them to do all this stuff.

1051
00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:26,530
But you have to be like

1052
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,420
the naysayer sometimes of like,

1053
00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:31,070
we love your passion, but practical.

1054
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,480
We need to get.

1055
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:33,910
Yeah, but sometimes happens

1056
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,960
the other way around.

1057
00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:37,550
I come with something amazing. Hey, we have to,

1058
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,240
we have to put this into the app.

1059
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:42,640
And they say, wait, wait, wait, you cannot.

1060
00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:48,730
What do you mean? 3d tunnel video? I mean,

1061
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,290
how weight do you want?

1062
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,180
Do you want it to be 80gb the app? No,

1063
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:56,210
so it also happens.

1064
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,290
That's funny. That's funny.

1065
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,070
So you're,

1066
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,870
you're kind of filling that project or. Well,

1067
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,200
I should say this as a question.

1068
00:42:02,330 --> 00:42:04,640
Are you filling the project manager role?

1069
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:06,240
Yeah.

1070
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:11,810
So we all are doing different kind of roles.

1071
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,580
Yeah, sure. Yeah. Because from my

1072
00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:15,630
little bit of experience with

1073
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:17,690
video games on the developing side,

1074
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:19,510
there's even on a small

1075
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:21,670
team you might have a project manager,

1076
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:22,940
but if you don't,

1077
00:42:23,130 --> 00:42:24,620
it'll be somebody else that

1078
00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:26,650
just project manages the developers.

1079
00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:28,620
That is like head developer.

1080
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,970
Yeah. So I'm actually. So

1081
00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:31,980
if you put it like that,

1082
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:33,620
I'm the CEO and the project manager.

1083
00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:36,140
I'm the product owner.

1084
00:42:36,310 --> 00:42:40,660
And another guy is the managing developer.

1085
00:42:40,830 --> 00:42:42,420
He's the scrum master.

1086
00:42:43,110 --> 00:42:45,590
So the other guy is the marketing manager,

1087
00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:48,770
but also he's the social media designer.

1088
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:50,650
Cool.

1089
00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:52,850
Again, we have five guys doing everything.

1090
00:42:53,550 --> 00:42:54,580
That's nice that you have

1091
00:42:54,610 --> 00:42:57,040
that clearly laid out for the team. I

1092
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:59,930
find that when the responsibilities are clear,

1093
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,050
things move smoother, typically.

1094
00:43:03,830 --> 00:43:04,960
So has anyone told you

1095
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:06,650
you're a little crazy to do this?

1096
00:43:07,310 --> 00:43:08,090
Yeah.

1097
00:43:10,450 --> 00:43:11,040
Can you tell

1098
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:13,000
me a little bit about, like. I mean,

1099
00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:14,770
obviously it hasn't stopped yet and that's.

1100
00:43:14,810 --> 00:43:17,850
That's great and I think that. But, but, yeah.

1101
00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:19,390
Do people think you're crazy for,

1102
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,950
for going after this and,

1103
00:43:21,250 --> 00:43:23,670
and how do you handle that sort of.

1104
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,740
I don't know that,

1105
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:27,670
that nay saying that comes in sometimes.

1106
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:31,270
Well, there is some, like, the friendly

1107
00:43:32,170 --> 00:43:34,610
approach of some people. I say, hey,

1108
00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:37,570
maybe you should focus on, you know, like I.

1109
00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:39,380
Your job and growing

1110
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:43,480
up in your company and doing like, you know,

1111
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,660
you have a child. Don't risk it.

1112
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,350
All this kind of stuff.

1113
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:50,230
And there is another people who say it will

1114
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:52,580
not succeed because it has tried before.

1115
00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:56,230
I seen something on, I don't know,

1116
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:57,570
this platform that looks

1117
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:59,980
similar and it's already done.

1118
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,330
I don't know.

1119
00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:04,480
I just love TTrPG and I think I.

1120
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:05,890
I want to find games to play,

1121
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,970
blades in the dark.

1122
00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:10,450
I think ethical math will help me. That's all.

1123
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,260
Yeah, well, and this is it.

1124
00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:13,950
You're like the first user. You're like,

1125
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:15,560
if I would use this and

1126
00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:17,240
it would help me get what I want.

1127
00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:18,720
You're probably not alone in that.

1128
00:44:18,770 --> 00:44:20,830
And I think if you start hearing

1129
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:24,260
naysayers on the way to something, generally

1130
00:44:24,290 --> 00:44:25,980
you're probably hitting on something good.

1131
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:29,210
Because if it sounds a little crazy and people

1132
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,090
think you're crazy to go after that or, oh,

1133
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,890
that doesn't sound like it'll work, or, oh,

1134
00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:34,070
someone else has done it that way,

1135
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,010
all the things you're saying, I don't know.

1136
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:38,120
I feel like 100% of the people

1137
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,490
who have been successful have had

1138
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:40,870
those types of things thrown at

1139
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:43,300
them when they start something like this,

1140
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:45,860
because it requires a lot of work that is

1141
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:48,160
unpaid and it requires a lot of passion

1142
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,030
that you have to finance yourself to

1143
00:44:50,060 --> 00:44:52,030
get something off the ground from nothing.

1144
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:55,000
And there is probably a lot of sacrifice on,

1145
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,940
on all of your sides to like,

1146
00:44:57,970 --> 00:44:59,500
because I'm assuming this is,

1147
00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:00,910
you do have jobs or you have

1148
00:45:00,940 --> 00:45:02,420
other things going on in your life,

1149
00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:04,600
including family and all of that,

1150
00:45:04,670 --> 00:45:06,450
and you're having to piece this

1151
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,840
together around those other

1152
00:45:07,890 --> 00:45:10,250
important rocks in your life and say,

1153
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,850
this still has to happen, this still

1154
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,970
has to build every single week, regardless.

1155
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,060
So, yeah, absolutely. We have.

1156
00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:21,220
Every week we have an objective,

1157
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:24,730
so everyone has their own task for a week.

1158
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,110
Not only one, like several.

1159
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,800
You have like an amount of points you can use.

1160
00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:32,160
This is called scrum system or agile,

1161
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:34,990
and everyone has to do it.

1162
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,670
And on Thursday we meet, sorry, not meet,

1163
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,170
but Thursday or midday,

1164
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,240
midday of the week for us.

1165
00:45:45,940 --> 00:45:48,100
So you can help other people to do

1166
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:50,740
their task if you have already done yours.

1167
00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:54,120
And it's Thursday, so. Okay.

1168
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:57,170
So we do a newsletter that I encourage

1169
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:59,040
everyone to subscribe to our newsletter,

1170
00:45:59,130 --> 00:46:01,440
because you will get all this information

1171
00:46:01,590 --> 00:46:03,820
and everything that's going to come

1172
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:07,880
later on the stretch goals first for you.

1173
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:09,000
Okay. This week,

1174
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:11,670
I cannot write this newsletter, or I'm back.

1175
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:12,860
I don't know what to write.

1176
00:46:12,910 --> 00:46:15,510
Or please check it on Thursdays,

1177
00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:17,720
people can say, hey, I have time,

1178
00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:18,740
I can help you.

1179
00:46:18,830 --> 00:46:20,760
Send me a link or whatever. And

1180
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:23,590
then you work together. So, yeah, we manage.

1181
00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:24,790
That's cool.

1182
00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:27,230
That you've already put in place.

1183
00:46:27,810 --> 00:46:28,630
I say a scrum.

1184
00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:30,030
You mentioned something called scrum system.

1185
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,780
That's like an actual

1186
00:46:30,830 --> 00:46:32,990
system of project management. Correct.

1187
00:46:33,070 --> 00:46:35,330
In terms of what you described there.

1188
00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:37,620
I think a lot of companies,

1189
00:46:37,770 --> 00:46:40,130
especially places that are involved in tech,

1190
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:43,430
use that as a way to keep projects moving

1191
00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:48,380
and moving consistently forward. I'm curious,

1192
00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:50,450
what advice would you give yourself

1193
00:46:51,070 --> 00:46:53,530
if you look back when you started now,

1194
00:46:53,870 --> 00:46:55,580
would you have any advice for yourself

1195
00:46:55,650 --> 00:46:59,850
about what to do differently, what to,

1196
00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:02,270
what to focus on first or anything like that?

1197
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:06,500
Yeah. So if some of our listeners

1198
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:08,870
want to build a company in Germany,

1199
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:13,470
know that the bureaucracy, it's crazy.

1200
00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:17,030
What do you mean crazy?

1201
00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:18,960
What do I mean?

1202
00:47:19,070 --> 00:47:20,840
Yeah, like, is there a lot of red tape to

1203
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:23,890
go through or what are some of the struggles?

1204
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:25,840
There is a lot of documentation

1205
00:47:26,010 --> 00:47:28,070
to get through only in German.

1206
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:30,010
And even though I speak German,

1207
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,000
if you go to these technical writings,

1208
00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:34,230
it's very hard.

1209
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:35,650
And here

1210
00:47:35,740 --> 00:47:40,770
you pay taxes for everything. Everything.

1211
00:47:41,710 --> 00:47:45,650
So get a tax advisor the very first day.

1212
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,520
I didn't get one until last week.

1213
00:47:47,610 --> 00:47:49,980
So first get one because

1214
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,240
it will make your time much, much easier.

1215
00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:54,040
But I mean,

1216
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:58,040
usually the way I work is in these

1217
00:47:58,130 --> 00:48:02,110
cases is do things in advance, like two,

1218
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,410
three weeks in advance,

1219
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,970
because I know it's going to be problems.

1220
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,780
And then you got these two,

1221
00:48:07,820 --> 00:48:09,330
three weeks to solve it out.

1222
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,440
Yeah. On that note, what are some of the

1223
00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:13,320
hurdles that your team has

1224
00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:16,540
come across with making this app?

1225
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:19,250
So when you want to build a Kickstarter,

1226
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,270
there is always that question, okay,

1227
00:48:21,310 --> 00:48:22,970
should we do a Kickstarter

1228
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,410
or just develop it and launch it?

1229
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:28,890
And at the beginning,

1230
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:33,330
we couldn't find an answer until

1231
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:36,450
after talking with each other. We say, okay,

1232
00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:39,250
we need users the very first day.

1233
00:48:40,350 --> 00:48:42,730
So if we do a Kickstarter

1234
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,940
and we give things to these users, we

1235
00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:49,620
motivate them to be there the very first day,

1236
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,860
even though the app is not yet.

1237
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:53,620
So for the beta,

1238
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:54,510
this is one of the

1239
00:48:54,540 --> 00:48:56,670
rewards that the backers will get.

1240
00:48:56,860 --> 00:48:59,200
And then you will get all this feedback.

1241
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440
And the day one launch,

1242
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,010
it's going to be already,

1243
00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:05,500
hopefully a few thousand people there.

1244
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:07,090
So we thought that

1245
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,100
the best opportunity was a Kickstarter.

1246
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:13,020
And then the other struggle is, and I mean,

1247
00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:13,670
doing a Kickstarter

1248
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,350
is a very hard thing. I mean, you have to.

1249
00:49:17,410 --> 00:49:19,430
We have never done something similar,

1250
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,510
none of us.

1251
00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:24,310
So I did a lot of research. My team did, too,

1252
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:25,960
and we come together, I think,

1253
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:30,520
with a quite amazing one. So that's,

1254
00:49:30,590 --> 00:49:34,440
that was one of the hardest at the beginning.

1255
00:49:34,510 --> 00:49:36,490
And then, you know, developing it,

1256
00:49:36,530 --> 00:49:38,550
it's also quite hard.

1257
00:49:39,170 --> 00:49:39,880
Yeah.

1258
00:49:40,030 --> 00:49:40,750
Well, right now

1259
00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:43,260
it sounds to me like, yeah, you agree, like,

1260
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:45,690
you're essentially building a platform, right.

1261
00:49:45,740 --> 00:49:48,700
And if you win the platform game in business,

1262
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:50,500
then that's the, like,

1263
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:51,580
you're playing a game that

1264
00:49:51,610 --> 00:49:53,820
is much bigger in that realm.

1265
00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:55,270
And I think that that's what's exciting.

1266
00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:56,100
And one of the reasons I

1267
00:49:56,110 --> 00:49:58,110
think that we decided, like, I was like, frank,

1268
00:49:58,140 --> 00:49:58,940
we should talk to this guy,

1269
00:49:58,970 --> 00:50:00,440
because I think that what you're

1270
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,460
pursuing is probably a bigger

1271
00:50:04,510 --> 00:50:06,940
deal than people really know right now.

1272
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:08,340
Because if it's successful,

1273
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:09,520
and when it's successful,

1274
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,750
I'm going to bank on you here.

1275
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:15,230
But when it's successful, it would, in theory,

1276
00:50:15,310 --> 00:50:16,740
dominate the entire

1277
00:50:16,810 --> 00:50:19,470
industry in terms of functionality.

1278
00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:21,310
Like the idea of building an app

1279
00:50:21,350 --> 00:50:23,520
where I can find any game I want,

1280
00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:24,780
find the people locally,

1281
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:26,090
or get all these things,

1282
00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:27,860
and then also have all these extras

1283
00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:29,200
that you're talking about that allow me

1284
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:31,560
to manage a community or manage my thing.

1285
00:50:31,610 --> 00:50:32,750
Like there's nothing

1286
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:34,210
like that in existence right now.

1287
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,380
And if you succeed in creating something that

1288
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:39,310
really does that transformation for people,

1289
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,650
there's no doubt in my mind that this

1290
00:50:41,770 --> 00:50:44,280
will take over a huge part of the

1291
00:50:44,310 --> 00:50:46,330
industry and have massive power in some

1292
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:50,170
ways in the five e or tabletop rpg area.

1293
00:50:50,290 --> 00:50:51,750
And I think that playing that game at

1294
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,230
a different level is pretty darn exciting.

1295
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,140
So I would love to see you guys

1296
00:50:56,310 --> 00:50:59,370
obviously hopefully succeed in this, right?

1297
00:50:59,530 --> 00:51:02,070
Yeah. So we have already a five years

1298
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,030
plan so hopefully it actually works good

1299
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,180
and then we can develop everything that.

1300
00:51:07,330 --> 00:51:08,970
Has to come that actually

1301
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:10,950
touches on one of the questions.

1302
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:12,690
I had another question but I really want to

1303
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,990
that that's a perfect segue into what is,

1304
00:51:15,070 --> 00:51:16,650
what is the plan after

1305
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:19,570
the success of of this app?

1306
00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:21,380
Where do you plan to take it that you

1307
00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:23,140
guys are willing to share at this point?

1308
00:51:23,290 --> 00:51:23,970
So at the beginning

1309
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,600
depends a lot on the stretch goals.

1310
00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:27,580
So the stretch goals are there because

1311
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:29,820
if we reach certain milestones then

1312
00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:31,970
we can hire people to help us

1313
00:51:32,020 --> 00:51:35,250
and I hire more space on the servers,

1314
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,500
all these kind of stuff to build much

1315
00:51:37,580 --> 00:51:40,720
bigger of an app in the future.

1316
00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:44,790
Hopefully it becomes the platform

1317
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,720
to go in order to promote your

1318
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:49,990
professional DM's because I don't know.

1319
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,760
I think in United States it is quite common

1320
00:51:52,850 --> 00:51:56,270
to have a professional tangent master but

1321
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,880
for example in Europe it's not that common.

1322
00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:02,830
And if you go to Spain people doesn't

1323
00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:05,450
not like but they don't know exactly.

1324
00:52:05,490 --> 00:52:08,070
Okay if I pay for a DM what do I get?

1325
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,870
Sure my friend is dming

1326
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:11,870
a game for me what's the difference?

1327
00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:15,630
And we hopefully will promote

1328
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:19,510
professional DM's in all kind of ways. So

1329
00:52:21,010 --> 00:52:23,610
there is once reward that you can

1330
00:52:23,650 --> 00:52:27,400
create your own skin for your tables and

1331
00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:30,570
we so if you're a professional DM you

1332
00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:32,290
can create your own skin with our graphic

1333
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,460
designer and everyone will see your table

1334
00:52:35,530 --> 00:52:38,610
with your skin so they will know is yours.

1335
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:43,860
And also we want to do live events

1336
00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:46,730
with Professional DM's and promote and

1337
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:51,010
help them to reach their audience.

1338
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:53,700
We think this is going to be one of the

1339
00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:56,250
future features of the app to

1340
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,920
help these professional DM's but

1341
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:03,050
another thing we hope to bring is with

1342
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,970
once we have everything built this first.

1343
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,500
So depends on the stretch goal.

1344
00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:10,390
But if not the first two years with the

1345
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,760
Adventure Journal deals we hopefully can talk

1346
00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:15,780
with the big companies resource of the coast

1347
00:53:15,820 --> 00:53:18,920
for example and imagine you are creating

1348
00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:23,440
lost mine of handlebar kind of game.

1349
00:53:23,530 --> 00:53:26,160
Everyone I think D and D has

1350
00:53:26,190 --> 00:53:28,840
played this adventure we would love

1351
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:30,880
to talk with over the course and say, okay,

1352
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:34,720
what if we create a skin and the adventure

1353
00:53:34,770 --> 00:53:38,230
Journal already done with all the handouts,

1354
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,210
all the images,

1355
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,330
all the PDF's that

1356
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,020
you need everything on the app.

1357
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:44,120
So when you create

1358
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:45,790
a lost mine of underwear game,

1359
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,960
it's already everything there.

1360
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:50,040
And maybe in the future,

1361
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:52,850
this is like a marketplace and people can

1362
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,360
promote their games or their adventures. Okay,

1363
00:53:56,370 --> 00:53:57,280
I have this adventure.

1364
00:53:57,330 --> 00:53:58,440
It's already everything

1365
00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:00,220
built for you and your followers.

1366
00:54:00,330 --> 00:54:02,210
So if you do a stream,

1367
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,070
don't just pay this,

1368
00:54:04,110 --> 00:54:05,360
you already have everything.

1369
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:07,470
And one of the things about adventure

1370
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:11,170
journal and you can choose when to share

1371
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,450
one small space of the adventure journal.

1372
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,810
So the adventurer is going to be like,

1373
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:19,260
you can create like a, like a WordPress. Okay,

1374
00:54:19,310 --> 00:54:21,380
here I want a scroll here,

1375
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:23,020
images here I want a link

1376
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:25,420
to this website here I want blah, blah, blah.

1377
00:54:25,570 --> 00:54:27,410
And you can choose each one of those if

1378
00:54:27,420 --> 00:54:29,620
you want to share to your server or not.

1379
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,540
Cool. Yeah. Getting involved

1380
00:54:32,570 --> 00:54:34,060
with those larger companies, I mean, wizards

1381
00:54:34,090 --> 00:54:37,700
of the coast is an obvious great, you know,

1382
00:54:37,730 --> 00:54:38,700
company to go for.

1383
00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:40,010
They already make a lot of what

1384
00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:41,290
you're talking about for d and

1385
00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:43,670
D beyond when they release on that.

1386
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:45,110
Yeah. So if you had a d and

1387
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,940
D beyond integration or something. Well,

1388
00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:52,240
right now you mentioned something I think that

1389
00:54:52,290 --> 00:54:55,120
everybody should be aware of is the newsletter.

1390
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:57,360
My hallucination of this is that

1391
00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:59,440
you guys are collecting email addresses.

1392
00:54:59,510 --> 00:55:01,330
You need to get as many as you can

1393
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,350
so that when this Kickstarter kicks off,

1394
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,930
you have some critical mass

1395
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,620
of people who can come in and support.

1396
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:09,870
But also those people who get on

1397
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,450
that newsletter will probably be the

1398
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,980
first ones to get access to the

1399
00:55:14,020 --> 00:55:16,970
actual app and all those other things. Give

1400
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,360
a little plug for your newsletter right now.

1401
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:19,000
Like what is it?

1402
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:20,260
What is a good reason for people

1403
00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:21,920
to go sign up for your newsletter?

1404
00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:24,500
So at first you will see

1405
00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:27,370
everything we do on the background. So

1406
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,480
we talk of the last development, the struggles,

1407
00:55:30,570 --> 00:55:33,920
what's going on with the team, but they will,

1408
00:55:33,970 --> 00:55:35,830
they are going to be the first ones to

1409
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,070
be remembered that Kickstarter is live.

1410
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,830
And not only don't miss the

1411
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,040
early bird with these two animated skins,

1412
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:49,270
but only there is one reward that it's limited.

1413
00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:53,950
The biggest reward will give you access

1414
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:56,440
to play with us with the founders

1415
00:55:56,550 --> 00:55:59,390
and a professional dungeon master online.

1416
00:56:00,050 --> 00:56:01,350
But also

1417
00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:05,930
if you are willing to come to Spain,

1418
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:10,410
we are going to do a game in a 15th

1419
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:14,970
century castle with live animation

1420
00:56:16,310 --> 00:56:20,100
and we're going to have a dinner in also,

1421
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:28,040
I think it's 13th century bodega,

1422
00:56:28,170 --> 00:56:29,640
like a restaurant.

1423
00:56:29,810 --> 00:56:30,580
Wow.

1424
00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:33,420
And this is limited of seats, but.

1425
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,220
That sounds very cool.

1426
00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:37,550
I'm just saying, like, all right, we.

1427
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:38,690
You may have noticed we

1428
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:40,620
had d and d in a castle on here.

1429
00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:41,770
And I feel like I just have

1430
00:56:41,780 --> 00:56:43,440
to go to Europe to play somewhere.

1431
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,100
Because you know what's so cool?

1432
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:48,300
We get to play in castles or in, like,

1433
00:56:48,350 --> 00:56:50,170
13th century places made

1434
00:56:50,180 --> 00:56:52,260
of stone, whereas, like, in Canada, we're like,

1435
00:56:52,290 --> 00:56:54,390
we get to play at a picnic table outside. Like,

1436
00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:57,040
it's just not the same level. Like,

1437
00:56:57,110 --> 00:56:58,880
we get to play at a Walgreens, you know, like,

1438
00:56:58,910 --> 00:57:00,110
it just isn't.

1439
00:57:01,010 --> 00:57:01,830
There's just not

1440
00:57:01,860 --> 00:57:03,500
that same level of history and, like,

1441
00:57:03,550 --> 00:57:04,760
authenticity behind it.

1442
00:57:04,790 --> 00:57:05,910
I feel like, you know,

1443
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Europe is just this emerging

1444
00:57:07,550 --> 00:57:09,350
budding market for live d and d

1445
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:11,630
events that we just don't even know yet.

1446
00:57:12,010 --> 00:57:13,560
I think that's going to be so cool.

1447
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:15,170
It cost a lot of money to maintain,

1448
00:57:15,250 --> 00:57:17,430
so they allow us to play with them.

1449
00:57:17,930 --> 00:57:19,230
Exactly. Right.

1450
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:21,890
Yeah, I've heard that it's a bit

1451
00:57:21,930 --> 00:57:23,630
like a resort over there.

1452
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:26,290
The castles very often get turned into these

1453
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,410
hotels with really great restaurants inside.

1454
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:31,970
And because they're usually in beautiful areas.

1455
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:35,210
Yeah. Yeah. I might

1456
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,630
say depends on the country. For example,

1457
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:41,570
here in Germany. No way. Oh, no way. I mean,

1458
00:57:41,620 --> 00:57:45,310
they are very, like, like, how to say, like,

1459
00:57:45,350 --> 00:57:47,630
this is for the citizens only.

1460
00:57:47,710 --> 00:57:50,120
It's not way to privatize it.

1461
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,410
Oh, it's like a perfect Spain.

1462
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:52,820
It's a little bit mixing.

1463
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:54,020
And in the UK,

1464
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,520
there is a lot of. They are private.

1465
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,420
All right. Yeah. That's

1466
00:57:57,450 --> 00:57:59,740
where d and d in a castle typically goes. So.

1467
00:57:59,790 --> 00:58:00,810
Yeah, that's what I was.

1468
00:58:00,820 --> 00:58:01,660
It makes sense.

1469
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,420
In order for us to have access, this is.

1470
00:58:04,610 --> 00:58:09,140
This castle is owned by the Navarra

1471
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,500
city hall.

1472
00:58:12,670 --> 00:58:15,380
And you have to ask for permission

1473
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:18,210
to the highest ranks of Navarra.

1474
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:19,300
So president

1475
00:58:19,390 --> 00:58:21,420
of Navarra has to give you, like, the. Okay,

1476
00:58:21,450 --> 00:58:24,620
because 15th century castle and

1477
00:58:24,790 --> 00:58:27,140
you are very limited of what you can do.

1478
00:58:27,310 --> 00:58:29,420
But no keggers there, I guess.

1479
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,920
But to play RPC games,

1480
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:32,620
you only need like,

1481
00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:34,910
a paper and a pen.

1482
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:36,540
So we are good there.

1483
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,360
No fireworks.

1484
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,530
Yeah, no fireworks inside the castle,

1485
00:58:40,580 --> 00:58:43,420
but outside you can do whatever you want.

1486
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,020
Wow, that's. That's so cool. Like, I am

1487
00:58:47,050 --> 00:58:49,500
curious because you guys work pretty hard.

1488
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,330
You must experience a little bit of stress,

1489
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:53,390
a little bit of burnout,

1490
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:56,700
a little bit of fatigue sometimes. How do you.

1491
00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:59,060
Or how do you deal with that when it comes up?

1492
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,880
So there is always a pronounce in any

1493
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,820
company and when you are building something

1494
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,380
more because it's your baby the good

1495
00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:13,660
thing is that we are five different guys.

1496
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:15,120
So one is in Argentina,

1497
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:17,240
three of them are in Spain between,

1498
00:59:17,310 --> 00:59:20,130
so Murcia, you know, Sun coast.

1499
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,470
And the other one is in.

1500
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,700
In Madrid and I'm in Germany.

1501
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:25,080
So when someone is out,

1502
00:59:25,110 --> 00:59:26,920
there is always the rest. Okay,

1503
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:27,860
don't worry about that.

1504
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:29,830
We are going to do this. And.

1505
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,710
Or sometimes some of them. Hey, guys,

1506
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,000
this week I cannot do this

1507
00:59:34,030 --> 00:59:36,200
because I'm overwhelmed with my job.

1508
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:37,120
Don't worry.

1509
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:39,320
We take Cato feed next week.

1510
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:42,730
You are up again. So, I mean, I don't know,

1511
00:59:42,860 --> 00:59:43,930
we just help each other.

1512
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:46,880
I think having that team does make

1513
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:48,480
it like that's so different about your

1514
00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:50,410
company is you have a team versus a lot of

1515
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:52,360
the people interview are solopreneurs. Right.

1516
00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:54,210
And so they just are like dealing with that

1517
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,010
stress on their own or they have to, you know,

1518
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,190
they have a partner or someone

1519
00:59:57,230 --> 00:59:59,140
else that they kind of, you know, do this with.

1520
00:59:59,170 --> 01:00:00,600
You guys have the five of you

1521
01:00:00,610 --> 01:00:02,740
to kind of keep supported and that's.

1522
01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:03,810
That's really cool. Like,

1523
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,940
if you have, you know,

1524
01:00:04,990 --> 01:00:06,410
four or five legs of a stool,

1525
01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:08,970
that stools more stable than that one legged

1526
01:00:09,010 --> 01:00:11,060
stool that's trying to balance, you know,

1527
01:00:11,230 --> 01:00:12,710
you're trying to balance on.

1528
01:00:13,090 --> 01:00:14,110
So that makes a lot of sense.

1529
01:00:14,140 --> 01:00:15,160
That makes a lot of sense.

1530
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:16,750
That's a nice analogy.

1531
01:00:17,250 --> 01:00:19,190
Now I've got this idea of someone trying

1532
01:00:19,220 --> 01:00:20,990
to sit on a one legged stool that works

1533
01:00:21,020 --> 01:00:22,430
if your feet are always on the ground,

1534
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,990
but it's hard to do.

1535
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,430
It is. I mean, and five legged stools, I mean,

1536
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:27,810
we should start making them.

1537
01:00:27,930 --> 01:00:28,210
Yeah.

1538
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:29,230
They're more stable.

1539
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,580
I actually wanted to

1540
01:00:31,610 --> 01:00:33,890
bring up a kind of a question.

1541
01:00:33,980 --> 01:00:36,040
I'm sure your team has thought about this,

1542
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,180
but a little bit of backstory real quick.

1543
01:00:39,350 --> 01:00:40,610
About five years ago,

1544
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:42,680
I had a very similar idea to

1545
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,020
what you guys are building right now.

1546
01:00:45,170 --> 01:00:47,010
And I worked at Wizards of

1547
01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:48,270
the coast for a little bit

1548
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,150
and I thought about pitching to them,

1549
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:52,380
but I ultimately decided not to do that.

1550
01:00:52,450 --> 01:00:54,100
And I didn't have the team of

1551
01:00:54,130 --> 01:00:56,580
developers and the people I talked to.

1552
01:00:56,650 --> 01:00:57,970
It didn't really pan out.

1553
01:00:58,090 --> 01:01:00,130
So one of the ideas that I really was

1554
01:01:00,170 --> 01:01:02,190
excited about that you haven't talked

1555
01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:05,490
about yet is profiles and leveling up.

1556
01:01:05,610 --> 01:01:07,740
So the idea of the DM's, you know,

1557
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:09,110
the Dungeon Masters are game masters.

1558
01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:10,410
The more games they play

1559
01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:12,680
or based on the reviews they get,

1560
01:01:12,750 --> 01:01:14,310
they level up a bit. And

1561
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,550
what have you guys thought about in that way?

1562
01:01:16,850 --> 01:01:18,990
So there is one stretch goal.

1563
01:01:19,890 --> 01:01:21,160
I think it was a stretch goal.

1564
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:22,140
I cannot remember right now.

1565
01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:24,390
I think we changed it, like for the,

1566
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:28,760
the version one of the app or the version two.

1567
01:01:28,910 --> 01:01:31,720
So right now we just want for

1568
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:33,690
you to be fast creating your profile.

1569
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:36,230
So you go inside, whatever.

1570
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,150
But later you will choose

1571
01:01:40,010 --> 01:01:42,470
like a Rosetta stone. Like, you will choose,

1572
01:01:43,370 --> 01:01:46,070
I'm more modern hobo.

1573
01:01:46,530 --> 01:01:49,160
I like more investigation.

1574
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:50,940
I like more role playing,

1575
01:01:51,070 --> 01:01:52,710
like silly voices.

1576
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:55,730
And then it's built this image,

1577
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,280
like a Rosetta thing,

1578
01:01:57,430 --> 01:02:00,560
like a graph on your profile.

1579
01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:05,160
And when people see your profile,

1580
01:02:05,250 --> 01:02:07,630
we'll check this and we'll know more or less.

1581
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,160
So what do you like?

1582
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:11,020
But the approach we have

1583
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:13,440
right now is through achievements.

1584
01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:16,010
Achievements. Cool.

1585
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,700
Yeah. So the thing is, like, for example,

1586
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:21,400
you're looking for a professional DM and

1587
01:02:21,550 --> 01:02:24,280
you want someone to play Daniels and dragons.

1588
01:02:24,430 --> 01:02:27,040
And you go inside a table and

1589
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:30,040
the creator of the table has the achievement.

1590
01:02:30,110 --> 01:02:31,800
Dragon Slayer has created more

1591
01:02:31,830 --> 01:02:35,160
than 500 dungeons and Dragons tables. I mean,

1592
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:36,810
you can be pretty sure

1593
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,840
that this guy knows what he's doing.

1594
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:44,580
So we are building this. We

1595
01:02:44,620 --> 01:02:47,070
have these achievements for the games you play,

1596
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,520
horror kind of games,

1597
01:02:48,610 --> 01:02:49,560
all this kind of stuff.

1598
01:02:49,610 --> 01:02:52,590
But also when you play a game,

1599
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,280
you get rewards by your fellow players.

1600
01:02:56,820 --> 01:02:59,120
So once per table,

1601
01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:04,780
people can give you like a reward.

1602
01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:06,990
So it's a good team player,

1603
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,290
it's the best healer.

1604
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,460
It's a tactician. For example,

1605
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:13,600
for a DM he has

1606
01:03:13,630 --> 01:03:15,930
or background story is always in mind.

1607
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:19,390
He improvises very well.

1608
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:22,330
And all these kind of rewards will

1609
01:03:23,030 --> 01:03:25,770
be translated into achievements.

1610
01:03:26,590 --> 01:03:28,460
Nice. There's two.

1611
01:03:28,610 --> 01:03:30,090
Is there a murder hobo?

1612
01:03:30,830 --> 01:03:32,730
This guy murders NPC's.

1613
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:36,290
Yes.

1614
01:03:37,830 --> 01:03:39,430
Don't bring any of your favorite NPC's.

1615
01:03:39,450 --> 01:03:40,580
He's around this guy.

1616
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,530
There's two ways I could see that going,

1617
01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:47,190
and I'm curious if one of them

1618
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:49,980
is more accurate than the other in.

1619
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:51,510
So the first one that comes to mind is,

1620
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:53,770
I play heroes of the storm. I'm surprised that.

1621
01:03:53,820 --> 01:03:55,230
I know the game's still around,

1622
01:03:55,380 --> 01:03:57,020
but at the end,

1623
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:59,290
five people will be selected out of

1624
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:01,420
the ten players and they will get

1625
01:04:01,490 --> 01:04:04,050
acknowledged for did the most siege damage,

1626
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,450
did the best heals or whatever, and

1627
01:04:06,460 --> 01:04:08,540
then they can get upvoted by the other players.

1628
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:09,970
So there's that one.

1629
01:04:10,060 --> 01:04:12,540
And it's kind of the game picks those

1630
01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:15,190
achievements for you based on your damage.

1631
01:04:15,340 --> 01:04:16,520
But in this case,

1632
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:17,800
the dungeon master would choose.

1633
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,190
So the dungeon master would call out,

1634
01:04:19,220 --> 01:04:20,820
I want to acknowledge, you know,

1635
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:23,440
each person, you know, afterwards, not,

1636
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,840
not in the game necessarily,

1637
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,400
but maybe afterwards they give that

1638
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,030
achievement that you're talking about

1639
01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:29,650
and then everybody else might have a

1640
01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:31,860
chance to upvote some of the players

1641
01:04:33,210 --> 01:04:35,230
they can't upvote themselves, of course.

1642
01:04:35,570 --> 01:04:37,990
And then the other option that

1643
01:04:38,060 --> 01:04:40,510
came to mind was how LinkedIn does it.

1644
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,260
LinkedIn allows you to kind of give kudos.

1645
01:04:43,310 --> 01:04:44,270
They don't call it that,

1646
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,390
but you can say, hey,

1647
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,950
I worked with Chris on another

1648
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,100
project or at the last company I worked at,

1649
01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:54,210
and he's super great at project management,

1650
01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:57,150
creative audio editing and stuff like that.

1651
01:04:57,730 --> 01:04:58,270
Is it,

1652
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,710
is the idea the vision

1653
01:04:59,740 --> 01:05:00,750
or the vision that you have?

1654
01:05:00,780 --> 01:05:04,310
Is it one of those sort of a mix?

1655
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,940
Because if you are a free tier,

1656
01:05:08,110 --> 01:05:10,230
you will have like LinkedIn kind of style.

1657
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,150
So when you play with people,

1658
01:05:12,530 --> 01:05:15,480
always positive people can give you. Okay,

1659
01:05:15,590 --> 01:05:18,430
this is like a good player always, sometimes,

1660
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,240
always brings brilliant beer,

1661
01:05:20,310 --> 01:05:23,430
popcorn to the table for physical tables, too.

1662
01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:26,160
All these kind of achievements that it's okay,

1663
01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:26,970
it's good enough.

1664
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,230
And I will tell you something

1665
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,310
later that helps with the achievements.

1666
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,940
But if you're a subscriber, not right now,

1667
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:37,040
but in maybe the first or the second version,

1668
01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:42,520
so you will have extra reward options.

1669
01:05:42,940 --> 01:05:45,420
And these reward extra can be

1670
01:05:45,460 --> 01:05:47,440
linked to the game you're playing

1671
01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:49,450
to the system you're playing neat.

1672
01:05:49,580 --> 01:05:50,840
That's, that's really interesting.

1673
01:05:50,890 --> 01:05:53,680
I'm sold, man. That, see, I mean, that was

1674
01:05:53,690 --> 01:05:55,200
the kind of thing that got me really excited.

1675
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:57,020
And there's other, I mean, like you said,

1676
01:05:57,050 --> 01:05:58,410
there's other programs out there.

1677
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,130
They're not apps,

1678
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,420
they're not mobile apps that I've seen,

1679
01:06:00,450 --> 01:06:01,820
but other things that try to

1680
01:06:01,930 --> 01:06:04,890
match you up with a table. And they didn't,

1681
01:06:05,230 --> 01:06:06,590
they didn't really have

1682
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:09,180
that reward built in system for me.

1683
01:06:09,250 --> 01:06:11,210
And it was also hard for me to actually

1684
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:13,450
get anyone to come to my table.

1685
01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:17,600
Yeah. So one, another thing we saw,

1686
01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:19,980
the achievement is not only for that,

1687
01:06:20,110 --> 01:06:22,230
but also when you create a table,

1688
01:06:22,810 --> 01:06:24,690
we will help you to find the

1689
01:06:24,730 --> 01:06:28,150
best players and how it works. For example,

1690
01:06:28,180 --> 01:06:30,360
if you choose beginners friendly,

1691
01:06:30,550 --> 01:06:34,050
that means that we skip that and first come,

1692
01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:36,090
first gets to your table.

1693
01:06:36,130 --> 01:06:37,510
You always will have on your table,

1694
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,390
like a queue of people who wants to join.

1695
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,390
So if someone misses,

1696
01:06:41,420 --> 01:06:42,950
you can go to the next a guy.

1697
01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:44,500
So are you up for this Thursday?

1698
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:46,200
Because one missed? Yeah. Okay, whatever.

1699
01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:47,400
Just like Tinder.

1700
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:59,200
But also if it's not beginners friendly

1701
01:06:59,250 --> 01:07:01,080
and you actually want the best players,

1702
01:07:01,190 --> 01:07:04,100
if you are creating our horror game,

1703
01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:06,530
these guys who has played the most

1704
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,910
hashtag with horror or has the

1705
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,420
most achievement with something of

1706
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:13,010
horror or maybe investigation or whatever,

1707
01:07:13,210 --> 01:07:14,870
will go up to the key.

1708
01:07:14,940 --> 01:07:15,680
Cool.

1709
01:07:15,870 --> 01:07:16,910
Interesting.

1710
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,430
It really is kind of like Tinder.

1711
01:07:18,460 --> 01:07:20,820
Like you're gonna get certain people who get

1712
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:24,490
shown more because they are getting more yes.

1713
01:07:24,570 --> 01:07:25,490
Swipes in general.

1714
01:07:25,570 --> 01:07:27,150
There's actually ways like

1715
01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:28,590
they have their own algorithm in there,

1716
01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:29,750
right where it is sort of

1717
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,720
a winner take all kind of thing,

1718
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:33,250
where they get exposed to more people

1719
01:07:33,330 --> 01:07:35,130
than others and all that kind of stuff.

1720
01:07:35,210 --> 01:07:37,160
So if anyone actually wants real tinder tips,

1721
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:38,390
go to our AMa on Patreon,

1722
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,610
because I actually do have, like,

1723
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,540
that whole thing dialed.

1724
01:07:42,570 --> 01:07:43,350
Don't use it anymore,

1725
01:07:43,390 --> 01:07:45,770
but I had it frigging dialed. Okay, so,

1726
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:48,770
but I think that's really interesting because

1727
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,090
if you have the ability as a dungeon master,

1728
01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:52,410
because we're not dealing, you know,

1729
01:07:52,460 --> 01:07:53,320
we're dealing with games.

1730
01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:55,350
We want to find people who are high quality

1731
01:07:55,470 --> 01:07:58,150
at the thing. Like, for example, horror.

1732
01:07:58,230 --> 01:08:00,890
That's a very specific genre of game

1733
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,250
that maybe not every DM is good at.

1734
01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:04,480
One might be really good at,

1735
01:08:04,530 --> 01:08:06,620
you know, having fun, silly voices,

1736
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:08,660
role playing and all that kind of stuff.

1737
01:08:08,730 --> 01:08:09,760
Whereas another game,

1738
01:08:09,850 --> 01:08:13,770
I want to feel scared or I want to be like,

1739
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,530
going through a horror genre and that

1740
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,270
person is great at creating atmosphere.

1741
01:08:17,350 --> 01:08:19,060
So if I want to look

1742
01:08:19,090 --> 01:08:21,040
for that specific thing in a game,

1743
01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:24,490
I can now see and be like, oh, wow, like,

1744
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,560
Frank has all these achievements in horror.

1745
01:08:28,689 --> 01:08:30,600
He's probably really good,

1746
01:08:30,770 --> 01:08:32,609
and I'm going to be more likely,

1747
01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:34,630
more excited to play that game and more likely

1748
01:08:34,670 --> 01:08:36,590
to go to that person. So. And that, yeah,

1749
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:38,370
I think that's a really cool feature for me

1750
01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:40,899
to be able to look for the exact kind of

1751
01:08:40,930 --> 01:08:43,200
game that I want and know that this person

1752
01:08:43,330 --> 01:08:45,450
is going to be able to deliver on it.

1753
01:08:45,870 --> 01:08:48,120
So if you had a million followers,

1754
01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:49,790
what advice would you give them?

1755
01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:51,859
I mean, social media, you mean? No.

1756
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:54,090
Yeah, sure. I mean, if you had a million

1757
01:08:54,140 --> 01:08:56,500
followers and your advice was,

1758
01:08:56,649 --> 01:08:58,210
if you had any advice for them,

1759
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:00,960
what would you say to those million followers

1760
01:09:01,130 --> 01:09:03,330
other than sign up for critical match?

1761
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,080
I don't know.

1762
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:05,859
Have fun.

1763
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:08,750
Have fun, enjoy life.

1764
01:09:08,939 --> 01:09:11,310
Yeah, it's pretty much like, at that point,

1765
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:14,390
what else can you say responsibly, I mean,

1766
01:09:14,420 --> 01:09:16,450
to a million followers other than like,

1767
01:09:16,580 --> 01:09:17,510
enjoy your life?

1768
01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:20,710
No, but I actually mean it. So one thing,

1769
01:09:20,859 --> 01:09:23,170
now I'm a recent father,

1770
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:25,170
and people say, okay, what

1771
01:09:25,180 --> 01:09:27,819
do you want him to be in the future? Or like,

1772
01:09:27,970 --> 01:09:30,350
what kind of career do you want him to?

1773
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,580
I don't care.

1774
01:09:31,779 --> 01:09:35,149
As long as he's happy and has fun,

1775
01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:36,479
just enjoy life.

1776
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:37,160
I will be there

1777
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:39,250
to help him whatever he chooses,

1778
01:09:39,410 --> 01:09:40,750
as long as he's happy.

1779
01:09:40,859 --> 01:09:41,830
So you're not going to force

1780
01:09:41,859 --> 01:09:42,819
him to be a professional

1781
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:44,740
dungeon master is what you're saying?

1782
01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:46,670
I don't think so. I mean,

1783
01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:49,229
I'm going to be professional nerd,

1784
01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:51,700
and he wants to be.

1785
01:09:51,750 --> 01:09:53,510
His mother is a scientist,

1786
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:54,980
and I'm more kind of business,

1787
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:57,290
so he has all the nice.

1788
01:09:57,410 --> 01:10:00,230
Yeah, that's a. That's a good. Just kind

1789
01:10:00,260 --> 01:10:04,460
of reference of backgrounds to pull from.

1790
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:05,380
Yeah.

1791
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,060
Well, let's

1792
01:10:07,090 --> 01:10:08,980
go ahead and transition. I mean, we've. Yeah.

1793
01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:10,610
So the next section here we're

1794
01:10:10,620 --> 01:10:12,720
going to start off is the random rolls.

1795
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,220
So you're going to roll a D 100, and

1796
01:10:16,290 --> 01:10:17,690
we're going to go through it a couple times,

1797
01:10:17,780 --> 01:10:19,210
and based on your role,

1798
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:21,340
we'll ask you some silly questions.

1799
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:22,420
They're more silly,

1800
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,160
a little less serious,

1801
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:24,970
and then after that,

1802
01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:25,740
we'll do rapid fire.

1803
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:27,590
So do you have a D 100 handy?

1804
01:10:27,740 --> 01:10:28,710
Absolutely.

1805
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,640
Awesome. So go ahead. Yeah.

1806
01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:34,360
Okay, let's see, 88.

1807
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:35,480
What makes

1808
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:38,400
a great friendship stronger struggles,

1809
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:40,960
living struggles together. Nice.

1810
01:10:41,820 --> 01:10:42,870
Nice struggles.

1811
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:43,780
I like that.

1812
01:10:43,940 --> 01:10:45,680
Have you had some times, I guess,

1813
01:10:46,460 --> 01:10:48,280
with the group that you're in right

1814
01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:49,650
now where there's been some struggles,

1815
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,250
but it's brought you

1816
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,150
all closer together because of that.

1817
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,400
We had some experience right now that

1818
01:10:54,430 --> 01:10:56,440
we thought that all the project was

1819
01:10:56,530 --> 01:10:59,510
going to go through the rubbish

1820
01:11:01,010 --> 01:11:05,990
and we move past it,

1821
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:09,710
and we are right now more excited for it.

1822
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:10,590
Good.

1823
01:11:11,250 --> 01:11:14,710
Once you go through something, obviously. Yeah.

1824
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:15,920
It can do two things.

1825
01:11:15,950 --> 01:11:16,490
It can drive

1826
01:11:16,530 --> 01:11:18,150
people apart or bring them together, and

1827
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,890
if it brings people together, I agree. Like,

1828
01:11:20,930 --> 01:11:23,990
you're gonna wind up having a stronger bond or

1829
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,720
a stronger relationship and all those things.

1830
01:11:26,750 --> 01:11:27,520
And that goes for

1831
01:11:27,610 --> 01:11:29,200
anyone that I think you're with,

1832
01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:30,770
but with a team of people

1833
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,460
that you're building something with,

1834
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:34,800
I think that's why they

1835
01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:35,990
do those sort of extreme

1836
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,400
team building things where you're, like,

1837
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:38,700
going through rope courses

1838
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:40,740
together or jumping off planes together,

1839
01:11:40,820 --> 01:11:42,090
doing that kind of thing, because

1840
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,560
it does unify you when you're like, holy crap,

1841
01:11:44,590 --> 01:11:45,680
we all just did that.

1842
01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:47,490
Yeah. I think at the end of the day, it's

1843
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,920
seeing each other's true colors.

1844
01:11:50,780 --> 01:11:52,530
Yeah, yeah, go ahead

1845
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,520
and roll again. Another one. Do another one.

1846
01:11:55,530 --> 01:11:57,000
Yeah, let's do a couple of these.

1847
01:11:59,020 --> 01:11:59,760
15.

1848
01:12:01,180 --> 01:12:02,600
Do you guys have, like,

1849
01:12:02,690 --> 01:12:03,710
what would be the best

1850
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,120
Halloween costume you've ever worn?

1851
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:08,640
I like Halloween.

1852
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:10,640
You don't do Halloween.

1853
01:12:11,660 --> 01:12:12,890
You and me both.

1854
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,570
Okay, see, clearly, I'm the one who

1855
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,410
added that question to our D 100 SDE.

1856
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:19,660
I like Halloween.

1857
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,960
I mean, I like it,

1858
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,990
but I don't like to dress up.

1859
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:25,330
I like to do silly voices,

1860
01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:28,130
but not dress up.

1861
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:29,200
Not dress up.

1862
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,720
All right. That's an interesting question.

1863
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,680
On that vein,

1864
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,690
what is a character voice that you enjoy?

1865
01:12:34,740 --> 01:12:37,070
Doing that might be kind of your default,

1866
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:40,540
that you go to dwarf. Yes.

1867
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,200
Because I have a very

1868
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,360
low voice and have the bearden,

1869
01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:48,170
so it actually matches most of the time.

1870
01:12:48,670 --> 01:12:49,430
That's great.

1871
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:51,160
I feel like if I gave you an ax, you

1872
01:12:51,170 --> 01:12:54,650
would 100% turn into a dwarfer very quickly.

1873
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,060
The most amazing thing,

1874
01:12:56,090 --> 01:12:57,540
because I like to play online

1875
01:12:57,610 --> 01:12:59,300
games and usually one shots

1876
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:00,700
with people from all around the world.

1877
01:13:00,730 --> 01:13:02,050
So usually it's in English.

1878
01:13:02,430 --> 01:13:04,610
And most of people ask me, ah,

1879
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,670
you're from Spain. Okay.

1880
01:13:05,710 --> 01:13:08,930
Can you say my name is Inhabia?

1881
01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:10,250
You killed my father

1882
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,330
prepared to die with your accent.

1883
01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:14,790
Yeah. How often does that come up? Right,

1884
01:13:14,830 --> 01:13:16,320
of course. Yeah.

1885
01:13:16,370 --> 01:13:17,370
What's every game?

1886
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:18,330
Because it's very much.

1887
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,850
It's the Barcelona specific accent too. It's

1888
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,340
not even just a spanish one. It's that one.

1889
01:13:23,490 --> 01:13:24,210
Yeah.

1890
01:13:24,590 --> 01:13:27,040
That is a very iconic character I do.

1891
01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:27,450
Yeah.

1892
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,030
Yeah.

1893
01:13:28,150 --> 01:13:29,400
Well, at the end of the episode, we'll

1894
01:13:29,410 --> 01:13:31,290
get you to do that for us, and then we'll.

1895
01:13:34,430 --> 01:13:35,390
All right, good.

1896
01:13:35,550 --> 01:13:37,450
Let's go ahead and roll another one.

1897
01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:39,490
Yeah. 21.

1898
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:44,150
21. If you were in charge of communicating

1899
01:13:44,220 --> 01:13:47,160
with an alien species for the first time,

1900
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,020
how would you go about it?

1901
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:55,180
I would try music like, you know, this movie.

1902
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,140
What's in English

1903
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:04,290
for our speaking spanish listeners? You know,

1904
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:06,220
this movie where they used

1905
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,740
very old one.

1906
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:11,620
I know that.

1907
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:13,740
What is that?

1908
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,320
It's not Space Odyssey, is it?

1909
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:21,540
Close encounters of the kind? 1977.

1910
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:22,830
Yes, that's it.

1911
01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:24,960
That's a Spielberg movie, actually, I think.

1912
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,980
I think so, yeah.

1913
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:28,800
I haven't seen it in a very long time.

1914
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:29,890
I need to rewatch that.

1915
01:14:29,940 --> 01:14:31,970
It was a good alien movie, though, like,

1916
01:14:32,060 --> 01:14:35,140
for its time. It was super, super well done.

1917
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:36,120
I mean,

1918
01:14:36,190 --> 01:14:38,140
not all aliens speak Spanish, like,

1919
01:14:38,150 --> 01:14:39,990
in the movies. I. Sorry, English.

1920
01:14:41,290 --> 01:14:43,310
And invade the United States.

1921
01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:45,390
Not all of them do that.

1922
01:14:46,010 --> 01:14:48,470
That's. That's a. I really like that answer.

1923
01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:51,110
I just wanted to say, I mean, music, even.

1924
01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:52,920
Even among humans,

1925
01:14:52,990 --> 01:14:55,030
music is such a great communicator,

1926
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:55,920
and it taps.

1927
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:57,460
It transcends into a part

1928
01:14:57,470 --> 01:15:01,830
of our brain that is kind of. It's deeper.

1929
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,450
It's deeper than just our language processing.

1930
01:15:05,620 --> 01:15:07,920
A language everyone understands.

1931
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:10,260
Yeah. That's really cool.

1932
01:15:10,370 --> 01:15:11,030
That is cool.

1933
01:15:11,070 --> 01:15:12,450
And I guess I've been told it

1934
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:13,940
activates different parts of the brain,

1935
01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:15,800
so maybe that would allow people

1936
01:15:15,850 --> 01:15:19,570
to open up to communication. Very cool.

1937
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:22,130
Do we want to do one more, just in case?

1938
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,290
Last one.

1939
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:25,700
Okay. 32.

1940
01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:27,890
All right. Other than a DeLorean,

1941
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,390
what vehicle would you turn into?

1942
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:32,130
A time travel machine.

1943
01:15:32,740 --> 01:15:34,960
Oh, my. Fiat punto.

1944
01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:39,800
So that's the most european answer.

1945
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:42,970
So I used to have a Fiat punto.

1946
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,650
It was the very first car

1947
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,070
I bought with my own money. It cost, like,

1948
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,680
I don't know, €10,000 right now.

1949
01:15:49,730 --> 01:15:51,480
It's almost like $10,000.

1950
01:15:52,580 --> 01:15:54,560
So I used it for ten years.

1951
01:15:54,710 --> 01:15:55,370
Whoa.

1952
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,060
And still kicking, I think,

1953
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,480
because I bought it for,

1954
01:15:58,630 --> 01:16:00,800
I sell it for €700.

1955
01:16:00,930 --> 01:16:02,840
And I think on my hometowns,

1956
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:06,160
my fathers sometimes see it. So, I mean,

1957
01:16:06,190 --> 01:16:07,660
you want something resilient,

1958
01:16:07,820 --> 01:16:10,800
and my Fiat punto was very resilient.

1959
01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:12,540
Thats a great point.

1960
01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:14,600
You would want a machine that is

1961
01:16:14,730 --> 01:16:16,720
reliable when you travel through time.

1962
01:16:16,770 --> 01:16:17,920
You dont want it breaking

1963
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:20,110
down in the prehistoric era.

1964
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,520
No, definitely not.

1965
01:16:21,650 --> 01:16:22,710
With a small stone.

1966
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,560
Cannot go forward, like. No.

1967
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,360
That'S awesome.

1968
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,460
And you want something fast enough

1969
01:16:28,490 --> 01:16:30,640
to run away from a velociraptor. So.

1970
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,290
Yeah, maybe the Fiat punto is

1971
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:33,260
not the best one for that.

1972
01:16:33,290 --> 01:16:35,750
Yeah. I never think of a Fiat as, like,

1973
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:37,890
a muscle car, but it's small.

1974
01:16:37,940 --> 01:16:39,630
Enough to get around corners and stuff, too.

1975
01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:42,960
It's very. Yeah, yeah. It's compact.

1976
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,980
I like that. All right,

1977
01:16:44,010 --> 01:16:45,960
let's do some rapid fire. And for these,

1978
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,180
these are just quick answers. One word.

1979
01:16:48,250 --> 01:16:50,300
You don't have to go too deep on it. All right.

1980
01:16:50,330 --> 01:16:52,130
Yoda or Obi? Wanna.

1981
01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:52,890
Yoda.

1982
01:16:53,010 --> 01:16:55,230
Nice. Favorite fiction book?

1983
01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:56,860
Red Dawn.

1984
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:58,150
Red dawn.

1985
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,660
Oh, I haven't read that.

1986
01:16:59,830 --> 01:17:01,430
That's a movie too, right?

1987
01:17:01,970 --> 01:17:02,580
I think so.

1988
01:17:02,590 --> 01:17:04,210
But read the book first.

1989
01:17:04,330 --> 01:17:06,940
Yeah, much better. If you

1990
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:08,660
could fly or turn invisible,

1991
01:17:08,710 --> 01:17:09,810
which would you choose?

1992
01:17:09,970 --> 01:17:12,710
Turn invisible, huh?

1993
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,310
Okay, hold on. How come?

1994
01:17:15,050 --> 01:17:16,380
Inspire my competence.

1995
01:17:16,430 --> 01:17:18,520
No, that's how he knows

1996
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:19,990
the project's getting done.

1997
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,850
No. You know, like. Like, disappear sometimes.

1998
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:25,440
Enjoy time. Like,

1999
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,960
no one knows where you are,

2000
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,400
and you can just travel

2001
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:30,790
around and no one bothers you.

2002
01:17:30,940 --> 01:17:32,140
I love that. I mean,

2003
01:17:32,170 --> 01:17:33,940
you're also a new father,

2004
01:17:34,130 --> 01:17:37,510
so I imagine that a lot of that ties into.

2005
01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:40,100
I really just want some alone time. Please.

2006
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:41,290
Just some.

2007
01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:43,060
Just some time where it's quiet.

2008
01:17:43,130 --> 01:17:44,420
No one knows where I'm at.

2009
01:17:44,550 --> 01:17:47,780
I could get away. That is.

2010
01:17:47,890 --> 01:17:49,270
I don't think that's what most people

2011
01:17:49,340 --> 01:17:51,530
think of when they think of someone

2012
01:17:51,620 --> 01:17:53,530
wants to be able to turn invisible so

2013
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,740
they can go and, like, steal stuff, right? No.

2014
01:17:56,900 --> 01:17:57,390
No.

2015
01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:59,750
You want to just get away?

2016
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:01,860
Yeah. When my child is looking for me.

2017
01:18:01,900 --> 01:18:04,360
Where is daddy? Ah, I don't know.

2018
01:18:04,450 --> 01:18:05,740
I can't find him, sweetie.

2019
01:18:05,780 --> 01:18:06,800
I cannot find him.

2020
01:18:06,890 --> 01:18:08,200
Go bother your mother.

2021
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:13,560
All right. What's. Ooh,

2022
01:18:13,710 --> 01:18:15,760
three favorite pizza toppings.

2023
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:20,640
Pepperoni, cheese, and cheese.

2024
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:22,160
Extra cheese.

2025
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:23,080
Yes.

2026
01:18:24,220 --> 01:18:24,720
Do you.

2027
01:18:24,770 --> 01:18:26,640
Would you ever do corn on pizza?

2028
01:18:27,860 --> 01:18:28,370
I mean,

2029
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,440
I like it but not, like, favorite.

2030
01:18:31,630 --> 01:18:33,130
Okay. Because that's something. Like,

2031
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,390
it just doesn't exist in America.

2032
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:37,310
And I have heard that corn on pizza is, like,

2033
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,500
a european thing, so.

2034
01:18:38,620 --> 01:18:39,330
Yeah, sometimes.

2035
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,920
Yeah, sometimes. All right.

2036
01:18:40,990 --> 01:18:42,020
Broccoli too.

2037
01:18:42,180 --> 01:18:45,680
Broccoli? Yeah, broccoli's not bad. I mean,

2038
01:18:45,710 --> 01:18:48,170
I enjoy broccoli on pizza if it's done right.

2039
01:18:48,210 --> 01:18:49,390
I don't always do it right, though.

2040
01:18:49,460 --> 01:18:52,110
Yeah, but why are there a pizza with broccoli?

2041
01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:53,040
I mean,

2042
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:54,890
I know vegetables.

2043
01:18:54,970 --> 01:18:57,340
I want vegetables, man. It's my salad.

2044
01:18:57,390 --> 01:18:59,480
Yes, the pizza, it's just like,

2045
01:18:59,590 --> 01:19:00,950
they're the only place, actually,

2046
01:19:01,020 --> 01:19:03,110
that I ever saw do broccoli on

2047
01:19:03,140 --> 01:19:05,740
pizza was in Toronto in little Italy,

2048
01:19:05,870 --> 01:19:07,650
and there's a place that called their.

2049
01:19:07,690 --> 01:19:09,550
Their pizza the pollo loco,

2050
01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:11,060
which is spanish. Right.

2051
01:19:11,150 --> 01:19:12,480
But the crazy chicken. And

2052
01:19:12,510 --> 01:19:15,320
it had broccoli and chicken on their pizza, so.

2053
01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:17,080
And I think it also is pineapple.

2054
01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:19,920
Oh, no, that does not sound good to me.

2055
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:22,520
What's the best munchy?

2056
01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:24,230
What is a munchy?

2057
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,440
Like, snack food. What's the best snack food?

2058
01:19:26,510 --> 01:19:30,640
Ah. How's in English? Frutose.

2059
01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:34,200
I forgot the name in nuts.

2060
01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:35,610
Nuts.

2061
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,020
Like nuts. Okay, cool. Yeah. Like.

2062
01:19:38,060 --> 01:19:40,160
Like almonds and, like, macadamia nut,

2063
01:19:40,190 --> 01:19:41,720
that kind of thing. Or a specific.

2064
01:19:43,940 --> 01:19:47,620
Bucket of nuts with paprika and sauce.

2065
01:19:47,780 --> 01:19:49,750
Oh, yeah. Getting some spice

2066
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:50,980
on there a little bit there.

2067
01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:51,500
Yeah.

2068
01:19:51,620 --> 01:19:54,890
Nice. Yeah. Now, on a different vein,

2069
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,840
DC or marvel?

2070
01:19:57,540 --> 01:19:58,840
Oh, marvel.

2071
01:19:59,340 --> 01:20:00,640
Yeah. Now, is that because of

2072
01:20:00,650 --> 01:20:02,290
the movies or did you.

2073
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,000
Sorry.

2074
01:20:03,130 --> 01:20:03,850
No.

2075
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,320
Yeah. So I know this is more.

2076
01:20:06,370 --> 01:20:08,960
More like dark and realistic.

2077
01:20:09,790 --> 01:20:11,230
I feel like it's a little more emo,

2078
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:13,990
but that's also more realistic.

2079
01:20:14,030 --> 01:20:14,770
Marvel usually,

2080
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,570
I mean, lately, is like, really? Yeah,

2081
01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:20,090
but has a lot of background.

2082
01:20:20,220 --> 01:20:20,890
That's funny,

2083
01:20:20,940 --> 01:20:23,130
because often people say Marvel is

2084
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,610
more based in reality because they're

2085
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,690
actually in real cities most of the time.

2086
01:20:26,820 --> 01:20:28,650
And DC is this, like,

2087
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,450
parallel Earth with, you know,

2088
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:33,450
Metropolis and Gotham and Star City.

2089
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:36,040
So it's interesting. It's very much.

2090
01:20:36,050 --> 01:20:38,250
The movies very much have taken that.

2091
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,840
Turn, I think so, yeah.

2092
01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:43,740
Like a fantasy Sci-Fi I feel like.

2093
01:20:43,780 --> 01:20:46,540
People, when they say, oh, you know,

2094
01:20:46,580 --> 01:20:47,890
DC is more real.

2095
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,200
They're just meaning, like, it's. It's like,

2096
01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:51,840
darker and more and

2097
01:20:51,890 --> 01:20:54,480
more emotional and more gritty and, like,

2098
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:56,270
it's like the dark version of it.

2099
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,060
And I think that that just is like, oh,

2100
01:20:58,100 --> 01:20:59,740
people feel like things

2101
01:20:59,780 --> 01:21:02,900
that are dark and gritty are more real. I

2102
01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:05,900
don't know if that's actually the case or not.

2103
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,940
Fireball or lightning bolt?

2104
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,260
Fireball. Destroy everything.

2105
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,530
Classic. Have you read the Harry Potter books?

2106
01:21:16,660 --> 01:21:17,380
Yeah.

2107
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,860
What Hogwart house would you be in?

2108
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,460
Okay, here I have some.

2109
01:21:22,530 --> 01:21:25,850
I know this is fire questions,

2110
01:21:25,900 --> 01:21:28,720
but recently I like yesterday because

2111
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:33,920
of the upcoming Hogwarts Legacy game. Okay,

2112
01:21:33,950 --> 01:21:35,910
so I did the thing because they say, okay,

2113
01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:38,750
if you join with your fan

2114
01:21:39,090 --> 01:21:41,670
Harry Potter club to the game,

2115
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,020
you will get special perks.

2116
01:21:43,070 --> 01:21:45,720
And I'm going to play 100% the game.

2117
01:21:45,870 --> 01:21:46,750
So I did that.

2118
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:47,900
And because I did

2119
01:21:47,950 --> 01:21:50,490
the first time 15 years ago, like,

2120
01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:52,110
which house are you in?

2121
01:21:52,650 --> 01:21:55,670
So I love Slytherin.

2122
01:21:56,690 --> 01:21:58,880
I'm slithering 100%.

2123
01:21:58,990 --> 01:22:00,090
It's your business brain,

2124
01:22:00,130 --> 01:22:02,690
your business background. I get it. Me too.

2125
01:22:03,670 --> 01:22:06,410
Draco Malfoy was a misunderstood guy.

2126
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,970
Yeah. His parents were tough on him.

2127
01:22:10,670 --> 01:22:12,210
And Slytherin get things done.

2128
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,010
This has been a theme among business owners

2129
01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:17,050
are the CEO's are Slytherin. They're like,

2130
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,090
we just get it done.

2131
01:22:18,140 --> 01:22:19,030
We make things happen.

2132
01:22:19,070 --> 01:22:20,850
We have a plan and we

2133
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,390
check it off one after the other. Like,

2134
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:23,900
say what you will about their intentions.

2135
01:22:23,970 --> 01:22:25,210
They were systematic.

2136
01:22:26,150 --> 01:22:29,520
Yeah. So I'm sleeping at heart and I did this.

2137
01:22:29,670 --> 01:22:31,780
I answered the website questions to

2138
01:22:31,790 --> 01:22:34,300
know which house and I tried it to

2139
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:38,150
be slithering and it gave me Gryffindor.

2140
01:22:38,490 --> 01:22:40,230
And I say, dammit.

2141
01:22:40,850 --> 01:22:43,220
So I slither in mind.

2142
01:22:43,310 --> 01:22:45,510
Gryffindor at heart, maybe.

2143
01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:46,480
Interesting.

2144
01:22:46,590 --> 01:22:48,290
Your slither of mine was like, wait,

2145
01:22:48,330 --> 01:22:49,900
how can I game the system so that

2146
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:51,790
it comes out the way I want it to

2147
01:22:53,130 --> 01:22:54,950
and then when it doesn't succeed, you go

2148
01:22:54,980 --> 01:22:56,880
back and do it again and you're like, hold on,

2149
01:22:56,890 --> 01:22:57,810
let me figure it out.

2150
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,450
That's so you cannot in the now.

2151
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,710
Harry Potter fan club

2152
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:04,620
because that's what Harry Potter did. He,

2153
01:23:04,690 --> 01:23:05,760
it said Slytherin,

2154
01:23:05,810 --> 01:23:07,810
but he really wanted Gryffindor,

2155
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:09,350
so it gave him what he really wanted.

2156
01:23:09,390 --> 01:23:10,350
But for you it didn't.

2157
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:12,010
I'm really sorry to hear that.

2158
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,210
Because slytherins need ambition.

2159
01:23:15,070 --> 01:23:16,940
They need to be held back a little bit

2160
01:23:16,970 --> 01:23:18,960
at first just so that he can overcome.

2161
01:23:19,130 --> 01:23:20,360
Then my wife tries.

2162
01:23:20,410 --> 01:23:22,480
She's a scientist and absolutely.

2163
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:23,730
She got Ravenclaw.

2164
01:23:23,810 --> 01:23:27,210
I mean, yes, yes. Yeah, I actually, yeah,

2165
01:23:27,250 --> 01:23:27,770
Ravenclaw

2166
01:23:27,810 --> 01:23:30,070
is the one I would be in. But my partner, she

2167
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:32,750
always says I'm Slytherin because of business.

2168
01:23:34,610 --> 01:23:35,470
So how many,

2169
01:23:35,540 --> 01:23:36,660
how many chickens would

2170
01:23:36,670 --> 01:23:38,270
it take to kill an elephant?

2171
01:23:38,850 --> 01:23:40,500
Okay. All of them.

2172
01:23:40,670 --> 01:23:43,460
Like every chicken in the world, they.

2173
01:23:43,470 --> 01:23:44,080
Will just throw

2174
01:23:44,110 --> 01:23:46,200
it to an elephant like a beast. You

2175
01:23:46,230 --> 01:23:48,830
know how beesden skills, bigger praise. Like,

2176
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,220
they exhaust them. Yeah. Put them.

2177
01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:54,520
So get all the chickens and just suffocate it.

2178
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:57,570
And if you were to spontaneously

2179
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,150
learn any skill at once,

2180
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,940
but you got to choose it.

2181
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:04,200
What would it be?

2182
01:24:04,900 --> 01:24:06,760
Fall asleep instantaneously.

2183
01:24:07,580 --> 01:24:08,520
Really? You'd want to be

2184
01:24:08,530 --> 01:24:09,730
able to fall asleep instantly.

2185
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,810
Keep. Keep running your business long enough,

2186
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,080
you'll find out.

2187
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,760
I need it because my,

2188
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,800
my baby boy sometimes gets,

2189
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,750
like ten minutes sleeps,

2190
01:24:19,820 --> 01:24:21,780
and I would love to be okay. Me too.

2191
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,780
Yeah. Yeah. Right.

2192
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,790
Instantly. Planet of the

2193
01:24:26,820 --> 01:24:28,040
apes or dawn of the dead?

2194
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,460
Planet of the Apes.

2195
01:24:29,650 --> 01:24:30,970
Nice. All right. And

2196
01:24:30,980 --> 01:24:32,820
you haven't asked your question, Frank.

2197
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:34,300
I know. I'll go ahead.

2198
01:24:34,410 --> 01:24:36,100
Star Trek or Star wars?

2199
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:42,550
Oh. Oh. So, like,

2200
01:24:43,810 --> 01:24:44,830
you have to pick.

2201
01:24:44,940 --> 01:24:47,860
Can I say dune? Yes, you can.

2202
01:24:47,950 --> 01:24:50,920
100%. You can say dune. That

2203
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:53,150
is a very acceptable answer.

2204
01:24:53,930 --> 01:24:55,590
You can't game the system.

2205
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,430
There is no third option.

2206
01:24:57,480 --> 01:25:00,230
This isn't like a Kirk maneuver.

2207
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:03,610
Star Wars.

2208
01:25:03,650 --> 01:25:04,620
I will say then.

2209
01:25:04,750 --> 01:25:07,490
Okay. All right. And what is it about

2210
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,160
Star wars that you're a fan of?

2211
01:25:09,660 --> 01:25:13,160
I think the magic approach of the Force,

2212
01:25:13,980 --> 01:25:14,750
because I always

2213
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,800
like this magic kind of things. So.

2214
01:25:18,740 --> 01:25:19,810
So Star Wars, I think,

2215
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,990
is much more fantasy

2216
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,930
and Star Trek is science fiction.

2217
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:24,730
Right.

2218
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,120
And I more like,

2219
01:25:26,210 --> 01:25:27,590
I like more fantasy.

2220
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,760
How many cats is too many cats?

2221
01:25:30,220 --> 01:25:30,960
One.

2222
01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:32,670
Thank you.

2223
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:33,860
I agree with that.

2224
01:25:33,940 --> 01:25:35,100
I'm a dog person.

2225
01:25:35,260 --> 01:25:36,800
Yeah, same here. Same here.

2226
01:25:36,830 --> 01:25:37,300
Yep.

2227
01:25:37,420 --> 01:25:38,620
All right, Borja, where

2228
01:25:38,660 --> 01:25:41,740
can people find you, help you, support you,

2229
01:25:41,780 --> 01:25:44,260
and learn more about the upcoming Kickstarter

2230
01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:46,860
if they want to support or get the early beta

2231
01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:49,450
versions of these of the app when it gets out.

2232
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,960
So they can go to critical matchpoint app

2233
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:55,800
and there they can watch

2234
01:25:55,850 --> 01:25:57,830
our video of the upcoming Kickstarter.

2235
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,440
Go to the Kickstarter and follow

2236
01:25:59,510 --> 01:26:01,270
the Kickstarter so when it launches,

2237
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,640
they will receive email. Also,

2238
01:26:03,710 --> 01:26:05,390
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2239
01:26:05,420 --> 01:26:07,760
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2240
01:26:07,790 --> 01:26:10,150
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2241
01:26:10,220 --> 01:26:12,660
or the opportunity to play with the team.

2242
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:15,000
That's awesome. I'm very excited. I mean,

2243
01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:15,750
talking with you

2244
01:26:15,780 --> 01:26:17,560
about all of this has definitely,

2245
01:26:17,670 --> 01:26:20,350
I was already interested and it was just

2246
01:26:20,380 --> 01:26:21,510
great getting to hear all this because

2247
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,830
now I'm really excited to support

2248
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,660
you guys on Kickstarter when it comes out.

2249
01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:28,860
Yes, yes. Absolutely. Thank you so much

2250
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:31,010
for coming on and talking about your nerdy

2251
01:26:31,050 --> 01:26:33,460
passion and youre nerdpreneur business.

2252
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:36,710
And as always, everybody, keep it nerdy.

2253
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:42,590
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2254
01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:46,060
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2255
01:26:46,150 --> 01:26:48,030
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2256
01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:50,040
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2262
01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:02,360
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01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,260
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01:27:03,290 --> 01:27:04,540
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01:27:07,380 --> 01:27:10,460
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2273
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2274
01:27:25,260 --> 01:27:27,030
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2275
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,500
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2276
01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:31,020
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2277
01:27:31,150 --> 01:27:33,430
Nerds deserve to put the passion first, so

2278
01:27:33,460 --> 01:27:35,650
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