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Josh Dech - CHN (02:53.998)
Kent Hoeven, welcome to the show.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (03:07.975)
Thank you, good to be with you.

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Josh Dech - CHN (03:09.958)
I cannot tell you how much I'm looking forward to this. The whole premise behind the show, it's called reversible, reverse able, that diseases can be reversed and as a gut specialist to take the angle of what does your gut have to do with it. And you as one of the world's most well-known creation scientists, I wanted to have a conversation with you because my idea behind why I do what I do and why we're so successful at it is that the body doesn't make mistakes. We were designed

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perfectly by an intelligent creator who said, here's what you are made in my image and your body's not meant to be sick. There are other things that make us sick. And so this whole conversation, I wanted to back it up with somebody who can talk about a lot of things that I can't. And that's really why you're here. So just for the listeners now who might be hearing this for the first time or hearing your name for the first time, can tell us a little bit about who you are.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (04:04.381)
All right. Well, thank you. Good to be on here. My name is Kent Hovind. I'm in Lenox, Alabama, straight north of Pensacola, 70 miles. Let's see. I've been a Baptist preacher for 50 years. I taught high school science and math for 15 years and 35 years ago started a ministry called Creation Science Evangelism using the obvious scientific evidence for creation as a means of evangelism. We just want to get people saved. I believe the Bible is literally true and scientifically accurate. God made the world about 6000 years ago, made everything, including dinosaurs.

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which is why we focus on dinosaurs. have Dinosaur Adventureland. Our website is drdino.com. Even our phone number, 855-BIG-DINO. You can call me. I'm extension three if you want to talk to me. We have a 140-acre camp down here that's just mind-boggling. You've got to come see it. It's all free. We have 30 cabins you can stay in, 17 lakes and ponds for fishing, a huge science center, 12,000 square foot, hands-on, a petting zoo. We want to glorify God. We think God ought to get the glory instead of the stupid evolution religion.

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I've done 386 debates against atheists. Probably my most famous is when I was debating three atheists at Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. And one of the SmartEllic professors said, where did God come from? My two-minute answer has 900 million-plus views. Just type in, where did God come from? Only two minutes. See what you think on that one. But anyway, I'm probably the most hated man on the internet. The atheists go crazy. They hate me. They all kinds of dumb rumors about us. Unbelievable stuff, you know?

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Josh Dech - CHN (05:02.371)
I love that.

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Josh Dech - CHN (05:16.428)
Hahaha!

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Josh Dech - CHN (05:25.646)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (05:30.309)
Not true. If you any questions, call me. 855-B-GUN or come see. The gates are never closed. Come on in. We're straight north of Brookin. yeah. Several people have dogs, but... Do you know you can use doxins for bear hunting? You don't even need a gun because the bear will die laughing or he'll choke on it. Either one.

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Josh Dech - CHN (05:36.782)
Our pets welcome down there Kent

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I love it. I got two little wiener dogs and we'd love to bring them with us.

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No one takes them seriously. You know what? They have big hearts. They think they're big dogs. They got the bark of a lion. I love them. Here's what I gotta know, Kent. This two minute answer, I'm gonna make sure I link it to the show notes. Where did God come from? I mean, that's a great place to start. I think the whole conversation around, you know, I'm gonna back this up a little bit because there's so many questions coming at me so quickly. There's a really great conversation that I think can end very quickly in the right hands.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (05:57.373)
Yeah.

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Josh Dech - CHN (06:23.316)
And it starts with God cannot be all good or all powerful. He has to be one of the other, not both.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (06:32.08)
Well, let's back up, take one question at a time. The question, where did God come from, is called an invalid question. If I were to ask you, why are elephants orange? What would you say? I can't answer that question because they're not orange, right? The question, five words, where did God come from? Four of those words don't apply to God. Where involves distance or place, God's already everywhere. Did involves time, past, present, future. God's already in the past and the present and the future at the same time.

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Josh Dech - CHN (06:46.368)
Mm-hmm.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (07:01.181)
See, God is not limited by time, space, or matter. We are. We're the ones that are stuck in time. Have you ever wished you could go back five seconds to undo the dumb thing you just did? ever? Yeah. I got scars and cuts all over me. Man, I should have done that. That doesn't happen to God. God's already standing at your funeral. So the question, where did God come from, is invalid. God is not locked in time, space, or matter. He created all three of those in 10 words. Genesis 1, in the beginning.

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all the time.

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There's time. God created the heaven. There's space. And the earth, matter. And each of those is also a trinity. Time has past, present, future. Space has length with height. Is it possible to have only one of those? There's no such thing as one or two dimensional space. You get a circle. I taught geometry for years. A circle really doesn't exist. As soon as you draw it on the paper, the thickness of the ink or pen or pencil now turned it into a cylinder.

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Josh Dech - CHN (07:45.89)
But no.

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No, they can't exist.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (07:59.933)
So circles only exist in the imagination. I mean, they're practical to deal with. I love geometry, but there is no such thing as a circle. So you have to have three dimensions. As soon as you got one, you got three. God created time, space, and matter. Matter comes in three flavors, solid, liquid, gas. It's always one of those three. And so God is outside of all those. I told the professor when he asked me, where did God come from? I said, look, the guy who made the computer, he's not in the computer running around changing the numbers on the screen.

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Josh Dech - CHN (08:03.214)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (08:29.873)
He's outside of the computer. God is not locked into his creation. We are locked into the creation. We're stuck. Time, space, matter. You can't be two places at the same time. And you can't be two times at the same place. So we are, we're stuck. So the question is invalid. God, God is, the God that I worship is not locked in. He's not limited by time, space, or matter. We are. Okay.

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Josh Dech - CHN (08:51.97)
Hmm. That's interesting. So on the conversation then of God cannot be all good or all powerful. He has to one or the other. Look at all the bad things that happen. If God was all good, God would stop them from happening. Or he wouldn't allow them to happen. If he was all powerful, he'd be able to stop it. So he's either got to be one or the other. What is your conversation or the argument around that?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (09:11.965)
Well, he certainly could stop everything, but then we would be robots. God had to give us freedom of choice. If you tell your grab your wife by the neck and say, tell me you love me. OK, I love you. It doesn't mean anything. It should be voluntary. So God doesn't he doesn't force us to do it. He gave us a book. A lot of people died so we could have a copy of that book. He really spent a lot of time, energy and money to give us a Bible that tells us what to do. If you choose not to obey his word, that's on you.

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He told Adam and Eve in the very first chapter in the Bible, eat the fruit, the vegetables, and the seeds. He mentioned it six times in three verses, eat the seeds. We don't eat the seeds, usually. We eat the apple and throw away the core. So I think even all the stuff about health, your specialty, God gave us freedom of choice. You don't have to do anything, He says. But it's going to hurt if you don't eventually.

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You can buy a new car and get an owner's manual that says change oil every 3000 miles. I'm not going to do that. It's my car. OK, do what you want, but don't blame General Motors when your car engine blows up. It's not your fault. It's not their fault. It's your fault. You didn't follow the instructions. And I think a lot of people simply do not follow God's clear instructions about a lot of things, about various kinds of sin and how to be healthy. There's a whole lot in this book on that topic. We should read it and just do what it says.

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This book tells you how to have a good marriage, how to have a good country, how to secure boundaries. This gives all the rules. Love your enemies. Do good to them that despitefully use you. So I think, God, if he did step in and stop everything, then we would have to be robots. And he would rather have people that voluntarily want to love him instead of people that have to love him. Like under communist countries, you have to do this. OK?

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Josh Dech - CHN (10:53.73)
Hmm. Well.

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Josh Dech - CHN (11:01.026)
Hmm, sure. Well, if God is so perfect in his design and created us so flawlessly, how come we all get so sick and there's so much disease? Where is that coming from? And why are there so many hiccups in the system that allow for things like addiction, that allow for things like illness, that allow there are so many, we'll say, loopholes to be exploited for us to become physically or mentally ill?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (11:25.309)
Well, if you went to a junkyard, you'd find a lot of cars that have been smashed. That's not the manufacturer's fault. That's the driver's fault. They ran into something or somebody ran into them. So you can't blame a smashed car on the manufacturer. I think most people destroy their own health with poor diet, no exercise, whatever it is, you know. God gave the plants the ability to put roots down into the soil and extract minerals out of the soil.

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That's amazing. Roots get the minerals, transfer it up into either the stem or the fruit or the leaf, and we're supposed to eat those and get those minerals in our body. And if you don't, you're going to have a car wreck. Something will go wrong, and you can't blame God. He gave you a perfect body. He told us to eat the fruit, vegetables, and seeds, and we don't obey. The rules, drive on the car. Drive the car. Drive on the right side of the road.

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If you say, I don't like that rule, I'm going to drive on the left side. OK, well, you're going to smash the car and hurt yourself, hurt somebody. You can't blame God. You can't blame General Motors. You've got to blame you. So I think most of the health problems are because of either you have done something wrong, you're not doing what you or maybe it's even hereditary. See, if your grandparents do something wrong, have a vitamin deficiency, for instance, or a nutrition deficiency, some of those things can be passed on for a couple of generations. And you can't blame God.

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If your dad is drunk and drives the car and you get in the wreck and you get your leg cut off, that isn't God's fault. It isn't General Motors fault. It's your dad's fault for driving drunk. So I think we, I think God gets blamed for a lot of things that he didn't do. We did to ourselves.

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Josh Dech - CHN (12:59.373)
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Josh Dech - CHN (13:05.4)
Fair enough. you got a lot of, mean, you clearly been doing this a long time. You've got an answer for just about everything. And we're gonna dive into that a little bit more. But you mentioned just off air before we started, you got four doctorate degrees, is that right?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (13:19.793)
I three earned and one honorary, but I can't afford the malpractice insurance, so just call me Kent.

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Josh Dech - CHN (13:25.23)
So you got four and a half or three and a half three and three quarters will call it which are fantastic It's three and three quarters more than I've got and so if someone comes in they're listening this right now and goes, okay I mean I hear your argument. It's starting to make a little bit of sense. But why should I listen to you? I heard you went to prison

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Dr. Kent Hovind (13:44.071)
Well, that's another story. And my doctor's degrees are from non-accredited universities. And they'll point that out. say, look, if you go to college for years and come out believing you're related to a potato and you came from a dot of nothing, I don't respect your degree either. So let's skip all that, OK? I mean, these guys really, Professor Dave thinks he's related to a strawberry. I got a whole chart behind me of people, what they think they're related to, you know? So I'm not impressed with their degree.

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Josh Dech - CHN (13:46.114)
Hehehe.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (14:10.439)
See, first you get BS, so we all know what that is. Then you get MS, more of the same. And then you get PhD, which is piled higher and deeper. That's all it is. It doesn't matter to me. What is the truth? I just want to know what the truth is. I did a show on February 1st. If you go to one of my channels, they're all listed right here. can go back to DrDyno.com is our main website. Cutting off the screen there, Joseph. Is that me? OK. D-R-D-I-N-O.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (14:38.205)
I did a show, an open letter to President Trump. Yes, I did go to prison. I did not commit a single crime. The government broke 100 laws to put me in prison. It's called the judicial weaponization, like they did with Donald Trump. They did the same thing to me, put me in prison for nine years for no crime at all. And I spell out all the details. Go back and watch February 1st. It's on all of our channels. You can find them at Roku and drdino.com. The Kent Hoeven TV is the app.

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I spelled out clearly, here's what they did to me and here's what happened. OK, I didn't break any laws at all. And if you watch that show and then you tell me what did I do? Half the Bible is written from prison. millions of people down through history have suffered innocently. How many people with communist countries are now are being locked up and in prison for years or for life or executed? What did the Jews do wrong for Hitler to kill six million of them? So just because something bad happened to somebody like prison or even executed.

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That doesn't mean they're wrong. Somebody else may be doing the wrong. So I did not break any laws at all. did go to prison. While I was there, I led 800 men to the Lord, did Bible study four times a day, wrote 37 books, earned two doctor's degrees. I tried to use my time wisely. know, half the Bible's written from prison. said, well, OK. I don't like it, God, but OK. What do do, you know?

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Josh Dech - CHN (15:57.177)
Man, that is amazing. That's amazing. I mean, your story, I was gonna say, I'm glad you've written books, because there should be a movie about it at the very least. But let me sort of pivot this conversation a bit here, Kent, because you've...

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really dedicated your life to the conversation of evolution versus creationism. And the concept of evolution, the reason I say, ugh, kind of gives me the ick. It doesn't make any sense to me. Just scientifically, I think it's kind of a dumb thing that everything came from nothing and nothing can come from nothing. On the other hand, there is way too much complexity in any intelligence in our bodies. What have we got here? We got a chart. And all my listeners are going to hear us on audio. So I'm going to, let's walk through this chart here. No, this is good though.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (16:35.697)
This is what... Well, this chart comes from a public school textbook, shows all life forms, the humans, the whales, the elephants, the aardvarks, the butterflies, everything coming from a common ancestor. This is not a scientific chart. This is a propaganda poster. That's all it is, nothing but propaganda. Now, they have, for instance, the ducks are related to the grizzly bears.

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Okay, there are 167 different varieties of ducks in the world, and they might have had a common ancestor called a duck. God said they'll bring forth after their kind. That's all anybody has ever seen in human history. And there are eight different kinds of bears. Black bear, brown bear, grizzly bear, panda bear, polar bear. And they might have had a common ancestor called a bear. That does not prove the bears are related to the ducks. This is nothing but SpongeBob imagination.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (17:31.047)
So yes, evolution, and by the way, you said creationism versus evolution. I put the ism on evolution. It's creation versus evolutionism. That's the ism, the communism, Nazism, Marxism. It's a pagan religion. Every Thursday and Friday night on my show, 7 o'clock Central, you're welcome to tune in. do a, evolution is the dumbest and most dangerous religion in human history. Prove me wrong. It's dangerous.

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Josh Dech - CHN (17:37.495)
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Josh Dech - CHN (17:54.393)
Why? Why do you say that? For someone who's listening right now, who has raised an evolution, they're hearing this creation ideology for the first time, something that obviously we subscribe to and understand and believe. What is the foundation to say evolution is dumb? What's the crux to this?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (18:12.007)
Well, I've done 386 debates now with atheists and evolutionists at universities. I've learned right away, before you discuss evolution, you have to define what do you mean by that word? Because that word has six different meanings or levels or stages. First, you would have to have cosmic evolution, the origin of time-space matter. They say, well, that's from the Big Bang. Well, that's not scientific. Nobody's ever observed anything like that. They believe that if they want.

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So the big cosmic evolution is pure imagination. Secondly, you'd have to have chemical evolution because they say the Big Bang produced hydrogen and helium, maybe some lithium. OK, how do you get gold, silver, platinum, and brass out of a copper out of hydrogen gas? I'd like to learn how to do that. the chemical evolution. Then you'd have to have stellar evolution. The stars and planets have to evolve. Nobody has ever seen a star form, ever. We see stars blow up once in a while, called a nova or supernova if it's a big one.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (19:08.945)
But nobody ever sees one form. So stellar evolution is purely imaginary. It had to happen because here we are. No, it didn't have to happen. Somebody made it. Fourthly, you have to have organic evolution, the origin of life. They have no clue how life got started from non-living material. And if a whole bunch of scientists in the laboratory could make life in the laboratory, all that would prove is it takes intelligence to make life. Duh. How do they not get it? That's all they've done is disprove their theory, OK?

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Josh Dech - CHN (19:36.376)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (19:38.791)
Then you have to have what's called macroevolution, number five. That is where an animal changes to a different kind of animal, which is what these charts are all about. OK, that simply doesn't happen. We never see a whale produce a non-whale, or a bear produce a non-bear, or a human produce a non-human. It's not observable science. It's a fairy tale. It's religion. They believe it. They believe it very strongly. That's fine. But they want to force all of us to pay for their religion to be taught in our schools.

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Wait a minute, wait. If we're going to teach one religion in schools, let's teach all of them. Or better yet, should we even have a public school? Maybe the parents ought to decide what their kids are taught. anyway, lastly, you have what's called microevolution. That's a variation within the same kind. That happens. There are now 340 recognized breeds of dogs, like your dachshunds. They probably had a common ancestor called a dog. Does that prove dogs are related to roses?

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That's what the propaganda poster shows. No, it's not true at all. It's nothing but propaganda is all it is. So if you're going to discuss evolution, I'll be glad to discuss it with anybody. I have my show every Thursday, Friday night. Call in. Anybody can call in. Evolution is the dumbest and most dangerous religion in the history of the world. Prove me wrong. I'll take that stand. So and they'll call in with so-called Bible contradictions. I don't have to defend the Bible. I think I can. I don't think that I think God's word is perfect.

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Josh Dech - CHN (20:46.605)
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Josh Dech - CHN (20:55.918)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (21:07.761)
But you guys want, I'm not asking you all to pay for mine to be taught in the schools. You're demanding we pay for your religion to be taught. The burden of proof's on you, not me. So keep the burden of proof on them. The Bible says Adam lived to be at 130 years of age, had a son named Seth. And Adam lived 800 years past that. Everybody before the big flood came is living 900 years. How do you do that? Well, I cover that in my video number two. If you get my creation seminar series,

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Josh Dech - CHN (21:15.726)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (21:37.117)
right here kareashan seminar series it's eighteen hours long you get a four fifty bucks and by the way brother when i started my ministry thirty five years ago i used to loan videos out to people i learned right away christians don't steal but they borrow and never return i won't learn it to you i'll sell it to you for fifty bucks when you're done bring it back get your fifty bucks back i've been my policy for thirty five years you can even copy it watch it a thousand times and copy it spread it out okay but just

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Dr. Kent Hovind (22:05.821)
So I don't loan it out. Anyway, so my video number one is about the age of the earth. How to prove this earth simply cannot be billions of years old. There's all kinds of ways to prove it. It just can't be billions, OK? Video number two is all about the Garden of Eden. Why did they live to be 900? What was that original creation like? 2 Peter chapter 3 says, the end of time, the scoffers would be willingly ignorant of how God made the heavens and the earth. Something was different. It changed at the flood.

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Video number three is all about dinosaurs. Wait a minute. If the Earth's only 6,000 years old, where do dinosaurs fit in? It's very simple. Before the flood came, the people lived to be 900. You go to Genesis 11, it picks up the story after the flood, and they all lived to be 500, 400, then 200, then 100. And today, hardly anybody makes it to 100. Reptiles never stop growing. They never stop. So if a reptile could live to be 900, a lizard, it'd

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We'd call it a dinosaur. Dinosaurs were big lizards that lived with Adam and Eve. They did not live millions of years ago. Noah took them on the ark. People say dinosaurs on the ark, they're kind of big, aren't they? Well, the big ones were big, but the little ones were little. And Noah was 600 years old when he built that boat or when he went to the flood anyway. I bet he was smart enough at age 600 to know, you don't have to bring the big ones. Bring two babies. Just be sure to get a pink one and a blue one. I'm sure he figured that out too.

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Josh Dech - CHN (23:06.168)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (23:34.139)
And after the flood, people killed most of them, called them dragons, or some other name in their culture. And some may still be alive. Loch Ness Monster, Lake Champlain Monster, I covered that in video number three, dinosaurs. Video number four is lies in the textbooks. Hour and a half going through different things, they're teaching the kids in our public school textbooks that have been proven wrong years ago. They're still teaching kids that one of the evidences for evolution,

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is that the baby before it's born, the human embryo, has gill slits like a fish. That was proven wrong in 1879. It is still in the textbooks.

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Josh Dech - CHN (24:05.088)
Isn't that the 1800s?

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All the biology textbooks, Google right now, Google evidence for evolution. One of the things they'll say right away is embryology. Proven wrong in 1879. Evidence for evolution. Do they have embryology in the list?

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I'm Googling it right now.

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I'm looking at it right now, this is a little wild.

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It does say embryology. Closely related organisms develop similarly, especially in early fetal stages, suggest the organisms are related to other forms.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (24:44.349)
There you go, proven wrong in 1879. OK, still got it. They don't have any evidence for evolution. Nothing but lies to support the theory. I went through all the lies in the textbooks in a debate one time with an atheist. And this atheist said, well, if you take all this out of the book, what are you going to replace it with? I said, folks, let me explain. What he's trying very hard to not say is that's all the evidence we've got for our theory. If we take all that out, you've got to find more evidence for my theory. I said, sir, if your theory doesn't have any evidence, I got a better idea.

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get a new theory. The number five is called the dangers of evolution. This theory is not only stupid, it's dangerous. When they came and arrested me to put me in prison for no reason, they told the SWAT team that came, get every DVD number five you can find. In here, I expose how the evolution theory is responsible for communism, Nazism, the New World Order. I spill the beans. They didn't get the master tape. We still make it, by the way. If you want to get some before they come arrest me again.

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The dangers of it. Number six is the Hoeven theory. Where did the flood water come from? Where did it go? What did it do? What about that flood? Number seven is actually two DVDs, five hours of commonly asked questions, questions and answers. What about carbon dating? What about potassium-argon dating? How did the light from the stars get here? On and on and on. Which religion is right? have all the different religions and stuff like that. So you can get the whole series for 50 bucks. When you're done watching it, return it. Get your money back. But don't ask me to loan it to you. I learned right away.

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Josh Dech - CHN (26:11.386)
I appreciate that. So let's talk about this a little bit then because I'd love to go through creation with you the story of creation because for God created the heavens and the earth. He spoke into light. He spoke into the earth and the waters and the stars in the sky and the birds in the air and all the things.

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Hang on a second. Hang on. Genesis 1 says, in the beginning, God created the heaven singular. If your Bible says heavens plural, throw it away. King James says heaven singular. All the rest of the Bible's almost all the rest of have said heavens plural. That's not correct. I covered that on video number seven. Why is it heaven or heavens? There's a big difference, but that's rabbit trail we can go down another day. Go ahead.

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Very interesting. So walk me through them because someone listening right now is probably going, okay, I hear all the evidence. You see evolution sucks and I'm starting to maybe buy into this thing. So then how do we all come to be? Can you help our listener who's never even cracked a Bible or has been or has heard at some point of the concept of creation? Can you briefly explain the first six, seven days?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (27:19.857)
Well, there are so many billions of what are called symbiotic relationships. Certain plants require certain animals to pollinate them. Certain animals require certain plants to live, you know, or whatever. They require each other. They had to be created within a few days of each other. If you read the story in Genesis, God made the plants on day three. Then he made the sun on day four. Some people say maybe those days are millions of years. Well, that's going to be pretty hard on them plants waiting for the sun to come up.

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No, it had to be the next day. And he made the birds and insects in the next couple of days, and they pollinate the plants. So the symbiotic relationships in nature, of which there are probably billions, have to require a rapid creation, six days. That's the way God said he did it. There's been no evidence against that. And there's lots of evidence to show this Earth simply can't be billions of years old. On my video number one, I show about 30 different evidences that the Earth is simply not billions of years old. Let's see here.

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it's a fun. I love doing this, brother. I tell people, if you watch my videos, at the end you're going to say, wow, the Bible's true. And then about a week later, you're going to sit up in bed in the middle of the night and say, no, the Bible's true. This changes everything. I better read it and do what it says.

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Sounds like I got 18 hours of homework to do.

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That's all I want to do. I want to strengthen your faith in the Word of God. I tell people when I start my seminar, there's three things I want to do. Number one, I want to strengthen your faith in God's Word. That book is true exactly cover to cover. Number two, if you're not saved, I'm going to try to get you saved. I'm going to try to get you converted. I'm telling you right up front. I'm after you. Number three, if you're saved and you're not doing much for the Lord, I'm going to try to make you uncomfortable. There's a war going on, soldier. Do something. If you're not going to shoot, carry bullets or take care of the wounded or find something to do.

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You have to be told what to do. I mean, if your neighbor's house is on fire, are you going to stand there and watch? Or should somebody come tap you? Excuse me, would you go throw a bucket of water on there? good idea. somebody screaming in that bedroom. Would you go pull them out? wow. Yeah. You have to be told what to do. Are you that stupid? Find something to do. You probably got neighbors within five miles of you that are going to hell. Do something. Give them a gospel track. Give them a videotape. One guy wanted his kids. They were going off to public college, secular college. He was worried about them losing their faith.

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He said, kids, I'd like you to, this guy from Dallas, he said, I'd like you to watch these videos. dad, too long, we don't have time. He said, look, I will pay you $5,000 towards your school bill if you'll watch the whole series without interruption. Okay, dad. He said, Brother Hoeven, it changed their life. They made it through college because their faith wasn't destroyed. They're teaching kids in school that each of the layers of the earth is a different age.

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Have you ever heard of the geologic column of the Jurassic period, the Cenozoic, Mesozoic, all this stuff? Did you know this geologic column does not exist anywhere in the world except the textbook? It was made up 200 years ago in 1830. They said each of the layers is a different age and the top layer is younger. And nobody thought to question it. I said, guys, listen, if the top layer is younger, I have a question. Where did it come from?

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If this dirt's two and a half billion years old and this dirt's only 10,000 years old, where was all that dirt sitting around for 2.4999 billion years? No, every speck of dirt in the world is the same age. There is no geologic column. I show in my video hundreds of petrified trees that are found standing up, running through all the layers. We've been taught so many things that are just simply stupid. We're taught that the layers are different ages. That's not true.

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We're taught the Earth is billions of years old. It can't be billions of years old. If I told you this pencil was 10,000 years old, you'd say, come on now. No, we know it's not. This company, who made it? Ticonderoga. They weren't even a company. OK, you could prove me wrong quite a few different ways about this pencil. The paint on here, that type of paint probably was invented back 50 years ago or something. You tell me the Earth is billions of years old. I say, look, guys, the Earth is spinning. But it slows down 1,000th of a second every day. Yeah?

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Well, if the Earth is slowing down, that means it used to be going faster. Yeah? How far back in time can you go before that would make a problem? Pretty soon, the Earth is spinning so fast, everything starts flying off, or it flattens out like a frisbee from spinning too fast. The moon is getting further from the Earth, an inch and a half a year. It can't be billions of years old. People that have done all the math on this say one billion is the maximum for the Earth-Moon system. And I cover all that on video number one, and with all kinds of documentation, everything like that.

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If the Earth is not billions of years old, that alone removes all possibility of evolution. Can't be true. Just that one factor. The age of the Earth.

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just like that. I want to pull it back a little bit here because we're talking about pre-flood and I promised my wife I'd ask about this because it's something I know she's super curious about. Before the flood you got people living eight nine hundred years old right Methuselah nine hundred and sixty nine years old. I heard an interesting experiment that I actually have a lot of trouble finding but again I've heard about so don't quote me on it. They had actually recreated

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the supposed atmospheric conditions, there was a vapor canopy around the earth and they put fruit flies in this. Fruit flies that live 24 hours were suddenly living for seven days. Humans that live for a hundred years could in those same conditions theoretically live for 700 years. So can you break us down? What is the science behind having humans live 969 years old, which is unfathomable today when like you said, most people don't live past a hundred. How does that happen? What happened there?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (33:04.797)
Well, if you read Genesis, the first couple chapters, it says, God made the earth and he made water above the firmament. We'll keep reading. And it says, the birds fly in the firmament. Well, that would be the air we're breathing. OK, so the birds fly in the firmament. There was water above the air. So I got pictures of all this. I can't get my PowerPoint to work right now for some reason. got all kinds of trying to push. OK, OK. Anyway, watch my video number two where I show all this and clearly.

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It's primarily audio platform anyway, don't stress it.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (33:34.331)
The Bible teaches there was water above the firmament. I'm a firm believer in what's called the canopy theory. There used to be a crystal canopy completely around the earth like a big greenhouse.

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Josh Dech - CHN (33:44.012)
And when you say canopy, Ken, it almost sounds like we're talking a flat earth with a dome.

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you can have a canopy around a ball too. Yeah, yeah. No, no. That's a whole, I don't get it. The ball, the Earth is a sphere. It's not a flat. Earth casts a shadow on the moon sometimes, right? If we go between the moon and the sun, we put a shadow on the moon called an eclipse. How come it's always round?

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Josh Dech - CHN (33:51.129)
Sure, okay, so yeah, so not flat earth. We are talking a proper sphere, good, okay. Glad we're on the same page there.

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If the earth was flat, once in a while you get a flat shadow, wouldn't you? mean, hello, that's 100 degrees. Yeah, I'm not. Don't get me distracted on the flat earth. It's a dumb theory. so. So the crystal canopy above the air, probably 10 miles up, is just my guess. OK, today the air goes out about 50 miles. If you can squeeze it all down into 10 miles, cover the earth with a crystal canopy. The Jews have always taught it was crystal, three fingers thick to say two inches thick.

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Josh Dech - CHN (34:18.69)
You think so.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (34:42.141)
Super cold outer space is super cold, nearly absolute 0, 459 Fahrenheit or 273 Celsius or 0 Kelvin. It's chilly out there. This crystal canopy would be really, really cold ice in contact with outer space, squeezing the air down into maybe 10 miles. Well, super cold ice, when you get ice down cold enough, it becomes magnetic. Google magnetic ice.

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Ice gets colder and colder and it can be lifted up with a magnet. Magnetic levitation. So I think the crystal canopy completely around the ball earth was held up by either magnetic, the Earth's magnetic field or by simple air pressure like an inflatable building. They have gigantic inflatable buildings. They fill it up full of air and play soccer games in there. You got them up there in Canada all over the place because of temperature, right? I think the Earth, the canopy would have been held up either by the air pressure or by the magnetic field. One of the two or maybe both, okay.

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Then that crystal canopy over the top of the Earth would block out UV light. UV light can't penetrate ice and water. And UV light is necessary to create carbon-14, the radioactive element. It changes nitrogen to carbon-14. So the animals and plants living under that canopy before the flood came probably had zero C-14 in their bodies. We're digging up the fossils today.

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and using today's standard C14 in the atmosphere to measure how old they are. No wonder you're getting the wrong number. You got the wrong ruler. They would they would date millions of years old. Carbon dating is really stupid. No, it doesn't work. I tell people if you walk into a room and find a candle burning on the table and I ask you the very simple question, when was it lit? You say, I don't know. It was burning when I got here. OK, well, let's measure how tall it is.

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Josh Dech - CHN (36:14.54)
Is that what they call carbon dating?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (36:34.663)
So we measure the candle and find out it's seven inches tall. Can you tell me when it was lit? No. Suppose we measure how fast it's burning. And we get a micrometer or micro, know, Olympic stopwatch, we measure it to the nearest 10 billionth of a second. We find out the candle's burning an inch an hour. Here's our two facts that nobody argues about. It is seven inches tall, it's burning an inch an hour. Now can you tell me when it was lit?

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Josh Dech - CHN (36:40.706)
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No, because you don't know how how tall it was to start with. You don't know it's always burned at the same rate. When you dig up a fossil, you can measure the carbon-14 in the fossil very precisely. I'm not arguing about that. How old is it? You have no idea. You don't know how much was in it when it died. You don't know that it's always decayed at the same rate. You don't know it's never been contaminated. In an honest court of law, none of the radioactive dates would hold up as evidence. None of them. They're all based on some obvious assumptions.

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Which is fine, I don't care, you can believe whatever you want. But see, they call it science and want all of us to pay for their religion to be in the public schools. That's where I'm gonna die trying to stop that. And after I die, my videos are gonna keep going. They can't stop me. Too late.

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Josh Dech - CHN (37:43.407)
So we got this this two to three inch thick ice crystal canopy surrounding a spherical Earth floating in the middle of space. If we can get 90 hundred degree days here on Earth, why wouldn't a sun melt this ice canopy?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (37:59.609)
Well, we get 100 degree days right now, but you go up five miles in the atmosphere, it's 50 below zero. Have you ever flown an airplane a long distance where they get up there and they got the little computer screen above you that says outside temperature minus 75?

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I've jumped out of an airplane at 10 or 15,000 feet. It was very cold.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (38:18.621)
Yeah, you go to Mount Everest five miles high, permanently frozen, even in the middle of summer. Why doesn't Mount Everest melt? It's the air is too thin. It's cold up there. So yes, can have if you Google the atmosphere, the temperature of the atmosphere as you go up over the Sahara Desert, go up five or six miles and it's 50 below zero over the Sahara Desert. So it's not a problem to keep a crystal canopy frozen 10 miles up, I'm just guessing. Then

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Dr. Kent Hovind (38:48.903)
The Bible says the fountains of the deep broke open. That's what started the flood. The Bible also says, if you read Genesis, the first couple chapters, there was water under the crust of the earth. There is still water under the crust of the earth. When they got down to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, they found hot water squirting up into the bottom, the thermal vents, hydrothermal vents. Well, guys, think for a minute. If there's hot water squirting up into the bottom of the ocean, where does it have to be coming from?

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Down lower than that, right? Common sense. Has to be. So there's still water in the crust of the Earth. Matter of fact, as several articles I've got on my slide presentation, they estimate there are 10 oceans worth of water in the crust of the Earth still today. So when the fountains of the deep broke open, the water in the crust came shooting up, shattered the Earth like an egg shell, broke it up into a million pieces. And we still have the lines where that happened. They're called fault lines.

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Some of them are still moving, causing earthquakes and volcanoes. Some of them are locked into place called stationary fault. There's the Hayward Fault, the New Madrid Fault. There's all kinds of fault. None of them are my fault, but there's a lot of faults in the world. The Earth broke up like an eggshell. The water went shooting up with enough pressure, I believe, to launch rocks up there and shatter the canopy. That shattered canopy, being super cold ice and being magnetic, would be sucked in and dumped on the North and South Pole, causing an instant ice age.

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I think it probably snowed, you know, five or 10 or 15 feet per minute as this canopy rained down. And it's very interesting. If you look at the ice age, the ice came further south into America than it did into Russia. The ice age is centered around the magnetic North Pole, not the real North Pole. We have a real North Pole where we spin. The magnetic North Pole's in Canada. It's moving around, headed toward the pole now. it used to be way down there in Canada.

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So the ice age, that ice gets dumped on the North and South Pole very rapidly, starts plowing its way out like a landslide or an avalanche. And that's what carved out the glacial grooves. You got them all over Canada, huge glacial grooves, the left behind piles of rocks called Terminal Moraines. That's what buried the animals standing up. There are frozen elephants called mammoths standing up, frozen, with food still in their mouth. Food in their stomach is not digested.

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They died of suffocation. There's no water in the lungs. And the food in their stomach not digested. Well, I taught biology for years, so I got curious about this. How long did it take to freeze an elephant? Because you've got to freeze him so fast the food is preserved. The stomach acid doesn't know he's dead. It's going to keep dissolving the food after he dies. So I called birds-eye frozen food people. I said, if I stuck an elephant in the freezer, what would happen?

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Josh Dech - CHN (41:36.558)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (41:44.613)
It was real quiet on the other end of the line for a few minutes. I'm sure they were laughing or something back in there. They said, well, you'd have a crowded freezer. I said, well, I know. OK. How long would it take to freeze the elephant? They said, it'd take about five days, because the outside's going to freeze and make a crust, and then the heat's going to be trapped inside. I said, I've got to freeze my elephant in five hours, or else the stomach acid's going to dissolve the food. They said, well, if you want to freeze an elephant in five hours, you have to dip it in liquid nitrogen.

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200 some below zero. Well, it never gets that cold on Earth. Never gets 200 below zero on Earth. Where are you going to get that cold temperature to freeze the mammoth standing up? Outer space. So the crystal canopy collapsing, dumping on the North and South Pole would explain the frozen animals, frozen standing up, frozen rapidly, pushing out toward the equator, making the glacial grooves. So while Noah's floating in the arc, in the liquid part around the equator, wherever he was, the poles are frozen.

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covered in, who knows, a couple miles thick layer of ice. It would take 400 years for that ice to melt back. So when Noah gets off the ark, this is going to sound crazy, the continents were much bigger because the ocean level was lower. Did you know if you lowered the ocean today 400 feet and the oceans average 12,000 feet deep, if you took 400 feet of water out of the oceans, froze it, stuck it on the North and South Pole, enlarge the ice caps.

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lower the ocean level. Now the continental shelf is exposed everywhere and you could walk anywhere in the world. One atheist said, wait, how did the kangaroos get to Australia? Well, they hopped. That's how they get everywhere. Yeah, what about all that water? Well, if you lowered the oceans 200 feet or 400 feet, you can walk from Vietnam to Australia. Google the continental shelf around Indonesia. It's 30, 40 feet deep, just about everywhere. So then over the next few hundred years,

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those ice caps would slowly melt back to where they are today. And they're still coming and going, glaciers and the global warming morons are out there saying, we've got to save the planet, kill all the people. I say, you go first. So the ice caps larger makes oceans smaller, which makes continents bigger, which is why probably for the first few hundred years after the flood, they would be building cities. And then they realize, hey, the water is coming up. And they'd have to abandon those cities. There are hundreds of underwater cities.

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that have been abandoned because the water came up because the ice melted back. It's not complicated. It's real simple. And the cracked up plates of the earth during the flood covered in water, the plates are all cracked like an eggshell and now they're and they're loose. Most of them. So they could flex up and down. You might get one place that would come up a few miles and be even be out of the water during the flood. All we know is Noah was in that arc for a year.

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It does not say the world was covered with water for a year. Some parts might have only been covered for a few weeks or a few months. How long does it take to drown somebody? How long can you swim? Yeah, how long? How long can you swim? I think some of the people would probably survive for a while floating around on log mats, or they'd quickly grab onto something. But pretty soon you're going to run out of food, you you're going to die. Like Tom Hanks in the movie, Castaway. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I think the flood.

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Josh Dech - CHN (44:47.63)
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Castaway? Yeah, yeah.

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Parts of crust of the earth might have been above water for months even and dried out. And you get wind blowing, drying it out and blowing, making sand dunes, which later get covered up. And these alluvial deposits would be, people find them today and say, oh, this proves the flood didn't happen. Bible says Noah was in the ark for a year. Quit adding to the word of God. Anyway, I cover all that in video number six, the Hovind theory. Where did the water come from?

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One atheist I was debating said, Hovind, if there was a worldwide flood, where'd all that water go? I said, it's still here. It's in the oceans. I flew over to Australia to preach over there. I got back. I told one of the guys on my staff. I said, man, that Pacific Ocean is huge. He said, that was just the top of it.

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There's enough water out there in the oceans right now to cover the Earth a mile and a half deep. If the Earth were smooth, it'd be one and a half miles of water everywhere, 8,800 feet. And a strange thing

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Josh Dech - CHN (46:05.432)
So you're no mountains, no elevations if it was just one level.

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Right, right. And in Psalm 104, it says, the end of the flood, the mountains arose, the valley sank down, and the water rushed off. It's interesting to look at a globe. Almost all the mountain ranges follow the coastlines. The Appalachian Mountains follow the North Atlantic. The Andes Mountains in South America follow the South Pacific. The Rocky Mountains follow the North Atlantic. I think a plate of earth 10 times the size of Texas.

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lifted up one spot, other side went down, the water rushed off, filled in the low place, and left behind a mountain range following the beach line.

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It says in 2 Peter chapter 3, the scoffers at the end of time would be willingly ignorant. That means stupid on purpose about how God made the heavens and how the earth was destroyed by a flood. In Genesis 1.1, God created the earth and the heaven singular. By the time you get the next couple of verses, he divides the heaven up into three slices. The first heaven is where the birds fly. Then there was water above that, a canopy of ice.

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Then there's the second heaven. We call that outer space. That's where the sun, moon, and stars are. Then there's the third heaven mentioned in the Bible, only mentioned one time. The Apostle Paul was rocked to sleep or stoned to death outside of Lystra. And he said he was caught up to the third heaven. The Bible says, God dwells upon many waters. Nobody knows what is beyond the last star. If they could find the last star, what's the next obvious question? What's after that? Nobody knows.

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Could it be that the whole universe is in a little glass ball on God's dresser and he picks it up and shakes it once in a while? How you doing in there, guys? know, the whole thing might be. Yeah, yeah. So we shall see. But I intend to go see that third heaven one of these days. I'm going to stay there forever. Love it. I don't deserve it. Man, I'm going to heaven because I'm forgiven, not because I'm good. That goes into a whole different topic. But there's only two religions in the entire world, Cain and Abel.

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Very men in black.

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Cain brought his fruit and vegetables. Hey, God, look what I did for you. You better take me. God wouldn't take it. Abel brought a sacrifice. Most religions are trying the same thing Cain did. They want God to accept them because of what they did. Look, God, I got baptized. I paid money. I walked up the steps on my knees. I said, Hail Mary, full of grapes, 500 times or whatever. And they think God's going to accept them because of what they did. And they're doing exactly what Cain did. They don't get it. Salvation is by grace, through faith. It's the blood of Jesus Christ that saves us. Nothing else.

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So when I was 16 years old, a friend of mine said, Kent, are you going to heaven? I said, I don't know. I've been to all kinds of churches. I've been baptized, catechized, circumcised, homogenized, pasteurized. What else you got to do? He said, have you ever sinned? You've broken God's laws? I said, yeah. Well, then you're going to hell. I said, wait, wait. Doesn't God have some kind of big teeter totter where puts your good against your bad? He said, what judge on earth would do that? If you murdered somebody and your excuse, your defense was, Your Honor, I did murder that guy, but...

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Look at all the people in the world I did not murder. Does your good outweigh your bad? Do they justify that? No, you're still going to be punished. If God just gave you punishment for what you have done wrong, we'd all go to hell. We all deserve it. That's why God himself came down, became a man, said, I'll do this for you, became Jesus Christ and died on the cross. And his blood pays for my sins. And I'm going to heaven not because I'm good, because I'm forgiven. It's wonderful. Once you get born into God's family.

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then you grow. And God handles his kids. He knows how to spank his kids. I never did spank the neighbor kids. I spanked my own if they needed it. And if some people do something bad wrong, maybe they're not one of God's kids. Because if I did that, God would smack me.

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Josh Dech - CHN (49:58.111)
It's one of these situations where 100 % you listening right now if this is starting to peak some interest grab a copy of these DVDs I'm gonna put the whole 18 hour series in a link below in the show notes you can check those out because I'll tell you right now Kent I actually got on to your work you were on a biohacking podcast that published in February of 2024 and I listened to that one

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Dr. Kent Hovind (50:19.068)
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And that's where I got more onto your work. I recognized your voice. I'd heard little snippets here and there across the internet. I listened to this podcast about an hour and 40 minutes long and I thought, I gotta have them on the show. I gotta talk about this because there is so much. I don't want to say unanswered. The questions obviously have answers. The questions that I don't have answers to myself or answers have not been presented or frankly, I've not gotten looking hard enough. And so that one's on me. But when it comes down to it,

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The concept of evolution versus creation obviously is insane, right? You've got so much real science backed up, but the scientific consensus, so to speak, and I'm sure you hear this one a lot, the consensus is that, well, evolution is because. And we look at science now, this is a big problem we face in the industry, especially in the health and wellness spaces, where the science agrees or the documents say, therefore it must be.

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For example, my specialty is in severe IBS, Crohn's and colitis, which are bowel diseases considered to be autoimmune. I'm challenging that theory and saying, well, the math doesn't add up. These don't have antibodies. These ones can't present at a nowhere. You can't get sick for no reason. We can't say idiopathic, meaning no known cause. So I'm breaking it down. I meet a lot of resistance because the scientific consensus is that these diseases are what the books say they are.

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Therefore, you must be wrong because you're going against consensus. So what do we say about that? Whether it applies to science or creation versus evolution when someone comes to you and says, well, the consensus is therefore it must be.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (51:59.101)
Well, that's a dumb way to look at anything. Back when George Washington was sick in 1799, the consensus of all the doctors was, if you're sick, you have bad blood. Take out your blood and you'll get better. Called the Doctrine of Humors. That's what they learned in medical school. And George Washington's doctors bled him, I think, three times. And he finally died. Duh. And they said, well, we did the best we could. Yeah, you killed him. Because the consensus was wrong. I tell you what, go to a Muslim country. Go to Iran or Iraq.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (52:28.347)
and try to get an article published in their magazines over there that says, Mohammed was not a prophet. Just see what happens. The consensus is, yeah, he was. And if you don't believe it, we're going to cut your head off. So go to a China and try to get an article published that says communism is no good. Doesn't work. See how far that goes. This is dumb to claim consensus means anything. OK? It's a regional thing. Sometimes it may be global. Everybody might believe it.

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They used to teach for years that big rocks fall faster than little rocks. That was taught in the textbooks for years. Big rock falls faster. Somebody said, let's go check it out. Drop a big rock and a small rock, hit the ground at the same time. Consensus was wrong. I think God designed the human body. God designed the plants to get their minerals out of the ground because some of the things our body needs, we use some of them we need and we use them up. Your car needs oil, but you don't use it up. You just use it.

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Your car needs gasoline. Now that one you use up and you better keep replacing it or it's going to quit running. Okay, your car needs air. You better use you better give it a lot. Okay, your car needs differential fluid. Well, that one you don't use up. You got to have it, but you don't use it up. It just uses it. Our body needs certain vitamins and minerals. Sometimes you just got to have them. Sometimes you got to replace them all the time like vitamin C goes to you like water. Keep keep eating it. When you get too much, you get bright yellow pee. That's the only symptom I know of, but you feel great. Okay.

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And so some diseases are, when you say you're into colitis and stuff like that, did you know diarrhea is hereditary? It runs in your genes? Yeah. I taught high school 15 years. It messed up my brain, OK, I think. OK, anyway, so it doesn't matter what the consensus is to me. Science is always supposed to be challenging the consensus. Just because a bunch of people believe something, so what?

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Yeah, that one never gets old, yeah.

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What is the truth? The truth is cows always have baby cows. That's the truth. Now you want to believe, and everybody believes cows are related to butterflies, okay, that may be the consensus. But that doesn't make it true.

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I think that's very fair. mean, we've proven time and time again, consensus means nothing. Consensus, at least we can see now, especially after 2020.

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we can see that consensus is with whoever is making the most money and willing to write the biggest check. That's where consensus is. And anybody else who doesn't say it is having the proverbial heads cut off. You're banned off social media, you're blacklisted, you're whatever, and you can't speak out, you can't say anything about it. I've had a couple of episodes flagged already. I've had for talking about, you know, vaccine scheduling or talking about cancer. There's a lot of words you can't say because you get blacklisted due to the consensus. Very sad.

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That's right.

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I know we've only got a few minutes left together here, Kent, and I wanna make sure we get you outta here on time. Just in the spirit of wrapping things up here, I wanna throw the ball back to your court entirely. No leading questions, no nothing. Is there anything that you'd like to say, anything we haven't talked about or mentioned that you just feel burning on you to make sure we get out before we wrap things up here?

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Well, I love studying the body and what it needs and vitamins and minerals. And I plan to live in this body the rest of my life. OK? And I want to be healthy while I'm doing it. I'm going to try to make dying the last thing I do. But if I live to be 500 and die and go to hell, it's all wasted. So I think much more important than the physical body, though I try to take care of mine. I'm pretty good shape for 72. But I think much more important than that is where you're going when you do die. You're going to die. So am I.

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Grandpa made it to 86, and I'm going to beat that or die trying. So where you go? So I think spiritual is much more important than the physical. Much, much, much more important. There are four things you can spend your time, energy, and money on. You can spend your time, energy, and money on things that last a few hours. Could you go out to a fancy restaurant and spend $50 on yourself on one meal? Yeah. Six hours later, it's gone. You're hungry again.

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Things that last a few minutes are not good investments. Thrills. What was the cost to go see a stupid ball game? OK, thousands of dollars. And what do you got the next day? Nothing. Then you can go to number two. That's things that last a few years. Now you're getting smarter. Spend your money on things that last a few years, like furniture, cars. Number two, things that last a lifetime. That's even better yet. You can spend your money on education. If you spent $50,000 to go to college and became a doctor, now you've

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You got something that'll give you a good income the rest of your life. And number one, you can spend your money on things that last forever. Eternal, soul winning. When I was 16 and led my first soul to Christ, I got down on my knees by the chair after he walked out. I said, Lord, I'm 16. I don't know what you want out of me. But I think I want to do this the rest of my life. I want to bring people to you. Maybe winning a stupid bowl is more important to you, but not to me. I couldn't name five teams. Dallas Cowboys, they still got a team.

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Okay, I've never, it doesn't matter. I want to win people, draw people to the Lord. So our whole ministry is that way. I have another series of videos called special messages. One of those is about the Bible and health in my special messages series. You can get that. Everything's up on drdino.com and all policies the same on all of them. Watch it, return it, get your money back or come visit us at Dinosaur Adventureland. Brother, we're building a Christian camp down here at the theme park, a museum, a science center. That's just, it'll blow your mind. It's incredible.

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Josh Dech - CHN (58:02.413)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (58:03.213)
Somebody gave us the old gravel pit in Lenox, Alabama, 140 acres. They paid a quarter million dollars and just gave it to us. And we have, God has been really good. Some of God's kids drive me crazy, but God has been really good to us. All right. Well, thanks for having me on, brother. Come on any time. Come on down and visit. When you get cold up there, try to find it on the map. We'll try to find it on the map. Lenox, Alabama. Good luck. Type in Lenox, Alabama. Your computer will start laughing at you. Like what? Yeah.

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Josh Dech - CHN (58:12.408)
That's incredible. Fair enough.

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We're always cold up here.

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Go straight north of Pensacola, 70 miles right by the interstate, little bitty town, 30 people. We have a dinosaur adventure land, and it's free. Come on down. All right.

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Josh Dech - CHN (58:38.326)
amazing. So if you guys want to check out more about Kent Hoeven, check him out at drdino.com. That's D-R-Dino as in dinosaur dot com. Is there anywhere else you'd like to direct anybody who's listening right now Kent?

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Dr. Kent Hovind (58:49.757)
Well, because the atheists hate me so badly, they published some of the craziest rumors. How many anti-hoven videos are out there, Joseph? Thousands. They accuse us of all kinds of things. there are dead bodies buried out there. Well, our pig died. We buried that. The llama died. We buried the llama. no, there's nobody. No dead bodies buried. But they're just so desperate to counter the message I give, because it's real simple. God created the world. And he owns it. And he makes the rules.

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Josh Dech - CHN (59:03.458)
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Dr. Kent Hovind (59:19.431)
They don't like his rules. That's why they deny his existence. One atheist, I was debating one atheist. said, if you chose to believe in evolution, if you chose to believe in creation, would that change anything? He said, that would change everything. I said, so have you chosen to believe in evolution because you really have some evidence? He said, no, I like evolution because I'm horny. I said, well, son, every male of every species, from termites to whales, understands that one.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (59:47.559)
But that's not a good reason to reject God. Hello, duh. I'll get it. I'll be glad to help. You call me anytime. If you got any questions, I want to help. 855-BigDinoExtension3. If you know anybody else has a podcast, wants me to be on as a guest, I just want to help people come to the Lord. Tell them, call me. I'd love to come out. All right.

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Josh Dech - CHN (01:00:05.356)
That's amazing. Kent, thank you so much. I'm put all that contact information below. I know you got to fly out of here. We appreciate your time, your expertise. It's just been an amazing conversation. Thank you so much.

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Dr. Kent Hovind (01:00:15.191)
Thank you, Josh. Come visit. All bye-bye.